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Biden to Romney: Show us your papers

Presumptive GOP nominee comes under fire for release of only a single year of tax returns


Leila Navidi

Vice President Joseph Biden delivers the keynote address during the 2012 National Council of La Raza Annual Conference at Mandalay Bay Convention Center in Las Vegas on Tuesday, July 10, 2012.

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Vice President Joseph Biden delivers the keynote address during the 2012 National Council of La Raza Annual Conference at Mandalay Bay Convention Center in Las Vegas on Tuesday, July 10, 2012. Launch slideshow »

Vice President Joe Biden asked Mitt Romney to “show us his (papers)” during his keynote speech Tuesday at the National Council of La Raza annual conference in Las Vegas.

Romney’s tax papers, that is.

Biden juxtaposed Romney’s previous statements in support of Arizona’s immigration enforcement law — and its so-called “show me your papers” provision — with the presumptive GOP presidential nominee’s release of only one year’s worth of tax returns.

“When his father, George Romney, was a candidate for president in 1968, he released 12 years of tax returns because, as he said, ‘One year could be a fluke, perhaps done for show,’” Biden said to a crowd of approximately 2,000 gathered at Mandalay Bay Convention Center. “His son has released one year of his tax returns. Making a lie of the old adage: Like father, like son. He wants you to show your papers, but he won’t show us his.”

Biden, speaking in support of the re-election of his boss, President Barack Obama, pointed to the more than two dozen passed or proposed voter-identification laws since 2011 – laws that opponents including Biden and Obama say will suppress minority votes – as an attack on civil rights.

“Imagine what the Supreme Court will look like after four years of Governor Romney,” the vice president said. “Imagine what it will act like. Imagine what it will mean for civil rights, voting rights, and so much we have fought so hard for so long to accomplish. Imagine a Justice Department that supports, rather than challenges, continued efforts to suppress the right to vote. Because folks that and so much more will happen if Governor Romney wins.”

In a survey of more than 800 conference attendees that NCLR released Monday, 36 percent of respondents identified jobs and the economy as the most important issues to the community, immigration followed at 29 percent, and education was the top priority for 21 percent of attendees.

The survey echoed what previous polling of Latinos has shown, and Biden attacked Romney’s economic policy, including his support for extending Bush-era tax cuts to the very wealthy.

“The tax cut will cost $1 trillion, 55 percent of which goes to just 120,000 households in America, households of an average income of $8.4 million,” Biden said, arguing that Romney would cut social and educational programs such Head Start, adversely affecting young Americans and families.

Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who will chair the upcoming Democratic National Convention, addressed the crowd prior to Biden. Villaraigosa called for comprehensive immigration reform free from partisan politics and applauded the Supreme Court’s decision to strike three of four provisions of Arizona’s immigration law, SB 1070.

“When President Obama directed the Department of Homeland Security to stop deportations of the Dream Act-eligible youth, a dark cloud was lifted for hundreds of thousands of young people,” Villaraigosa said, noting that the policy change was a stop-gap measure.

Biden was accompanied by his wife, Jill, who introduced him to the La Raza audience. As the vice president began his speech, he poked fun at his propensity for off-the-cuff statements that later need to be explained.

“I have a bad habit of saying what I believe, and I’m going to say it today,” he said to laughter and loud applause.

Tuesday is the final day of the four-day NCLR annual conference. This is the first time that the nationwide civil rights organization’s national conference is in Las Vegas. The 2013 conference will take place in New Orleans.

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  1. Be careful what you ask for... You want records released? Is your boss ready to release records as well?? I don't think so. The most transparent president and honest administration is the most deceitful and dishonest bunch to ever occupy the white house...

    But hey, with 57 states to vote, who knows, you may get another few years in the office...

  2. bimmerdude,
    Thank you for your service to our country.
    And you are right, most of the posters here need to go to some third world countries and see that America is headed in that direction in a hurry. We are quickly becoming a country of have's and have not's, which makes one a third world country.

  3. You can always tell who the Fox viewers are. Their talking points and comments ape and mimick the talking heads on that channel, no original thoughts at all.

    Roger Ailes - "Today television news is watched more often than people read newspapers, than people listen to the radio, than people read or gather any other form of communication. The reason: People are lazy. With television you just sit--watch--listen. The thinking is done for you."

  4. This is for Vernos and all his ilk. Obama needs to "show us the papers for his secret Alaskan Island give a way to Russia ". READ THIS AND WEEP!!!
    Link 2.

  5. Romney has tens of $millions stashed away in the Cayman Islands, British Virgin Islands and probably Switzerland to name three.

    This is where the multimillionaires stash their cash because the banking laws for those independent territories are specifically written to hide the transactions of their owners. They are NOT transparent to the American tax and legal system.

    So why is Romney putting his cash offshore? How do offshore deposits create jobs in America? How do offshore accounts better prepare their owners to pay their fair share of taxes? How do offshore accounts improve the economic strength of this Country?

    I understand that only the wealthy can afford to create blind trusts and other secretive accounts, where the owner's name becomes a code number on deposit. The Caymans don't service main street - they start at the Penthouse level and go up from there.

    Romney is clearly obligated to explain his choice of offshore banking entities and demonstrate his veracity.

  6. I think many are still waiting on papers from Obama. Quite a glass house Biden just built.

  7. As President, Romney could stifle tax fraud investigations by the Dept of Justice simply by allocating resources to more 'important investigations', like Fast and Furious.

    Bain Capital has around 138 private (secret) accounts in the Cayman Islands, according to a recent report in Vanity Fair Magazine. These accounts are held by many of Romney's business associates and their fortunes are connected up with his. Romney would never spill the beans on his business associates because they would cut him to pieces.

    With Romney calling the shots, the banking industry in the offshore world would see a boost like never before, but how would this boost create jobs in America? How do offshore accounts create jobs in America?

    Romney MUST ANSWER that question, so what is holding him back?

  8. Vernos, I agree with you, but those same Fox talking heads have been very effective at using their army of minions to inject their extremism and propaganda into every corner of the American mainstream over the last decade.

    You can't really go to any blog or news site in this country anymore and have a civilized and honest discussion without being attacked by these people. This site is just another shining example of that. I'm sure the puppet masters at Fox are happy now. They've achieved their goal.

  9. Regarding Romney, if he wants to run for president, he has to level with the public and be honest. This is a character issue. Truth will always stand up to the bright light of scrutiny. What's the problem, Mitt?

  10. "Where the Money Lives" - a report by Nicholas Shaxson in Vanity Fair about offshore banking and Bain Capital.

    Here is the link:


  11. From the report: Romney's defense is that he never broke the rules: if there is a problem, it is in the laws, not in his behavior. "I pay all the taxes that are legally required, not a dollar more," he said.

    That's because ONE EXTRA DOLLAR paid unnecessarily in taxes is heresy to Mitt Romney. By his own words, he would rather spend $20,000 on a tax attorney then pay ONE EXTRA DOLLAR to the US Government - and now he wants to be President!!

    His business associates and depositors on Grand Cayman Island feel exactly the same way because they are paying $25k-$50k to have their picture taken with him.

    Romney's supporters would rather pay $50,000 to his campaign than ONE EXTRA DOLLAR to the US Government in taxes and demonstrate that code of honor every day.

    What does a person who pays that much for a picture think about the disadvantaged? Let me know.

  12. Give this some thought !!! When the likes of Donald Trump and the cast of birthers insisted that Pres Obama produce his birth certificate, A first!
    That was okay . The President authorized release of his Certificate of Birth even though he didn't have to.
    We have a very legitimate right to ask that Candidate Romney show his Tax returns. We have to know whether someone who is planning to become President has our interests in mind. The longer this charade continues the more I am inclined to believe that he is hiding something and that he is concerned that if we find out it will sink his chances.
    He is right however he won't get away with it. He has a credibility problem that currently exists. Further delays in showing his tax returns, which every other candidate in history has shown, makes me believe this man is a fraud period.

  13. After 4 years of the birthers..and Obama finally released his long form birth certificate and has never released many of his own records..this attack is ludicrous...I am sick of the birthers and sick of Old Biddy Biden..
    If the IRS has reaon to suspect any tax fraud then let the IRS investigate..
    Given the leaks in this Administration, I am certain if there was anything to hide in Romney's taxes..the Obama administration would have leaked it.
    Someone stated that the Supreme Courts ruling was leaked and Nancy Pelosi stated at 6:30 am that Roberts had voted for the ACA.

  14. xtra "If the IRS has reaon to suspect any tax fraud then let the IRS investigate"

    I think you miss the point of why dishonorable Americans use Swiss bank prevent the IRS from investigating and to get around regulations and paying tax.

    Romney is hiding something to go against his own father's advice. The once honorable Republican party is appearing more and more desperate as they throw away their own principles. Gingrich warned this would blow up on Romney, but the majority of Republicans chose Romney anyways.

    With the evangelicals having serious doubts about Romney's religion, the Right Wing media publicly criticizing Romney; the only way he can win is buying, distorting, defaming, and flat out telling lies. What happened to the Republican Party? Are some of you so wrapped up in hatred that you would vote against your conscious? I'm no fan of President Obama, but I know right from wrong and Romney is plain wrong for the country.

  15. It is not illegal to have accounts in Switzerland nor is it illegal to have offshore accounts. The offshore accounts are Bains..and Romney does not have any Swiss Accounts..
    One fact you mention, Romney is a Mormon and the Mormon Church requires lawful financial dealings, fully disclosed. It is part of their tithing.
    I am really DIGUSTED with Biden for encouraging contempt of the law regarding papers..Does he find it funny that I have to show ID to buy many things, or enter a Federal Building?
    Does Biden suggest that I contemputuously refuse to show my ID or get a drivers licence until Romney releases his tax returns
    Biden isn't talking to me..He is talking to Open Border La Raza..The Race..
    It makes me puke!

  16. I know right from wrong and fostering contempt for the wrong..
    Biden and Obama are wrong..wrong..wrong

  17. How about I don't show my papers ..according to Biden..I shouldn't have to..
    Biden is flipping the middle finger to having drivers licenses, proof of insurance..which paper should I not have to show to whom because Romney is rich?..and Biden is encouraging others to do the same..
    If a Mexican nationsl or a minority does not have to show or have papers..why should I? Why does Biden consider some groups so special..??

  18. xtra "The offshore accounts are Bains..and Romney does not have any Swiss Accounts.."

    Wrong. You need to update your talking points...Romney released details on his offshore accounts and Swiss account. Ignore the story, go straight to the .pdf of his returns and see for yourself. May be legal, but it is dishonorable.

    "The Romneys invested portions of the their Individual Retirement Account assets in Bain Capital funds registered in the Caymans, rather than in similar US funds. The forms also show that Romney had a Swiss bank account in 2010."

    And here are the .pdf's of Romney's returns

  19. Bill_Gordon
    "It is not illegal but it is dishonorable."
    I stated, "Romney does not have any Swiss Bank Accounts" You confirmed that..he closed them..
    Not having and showing papers is ILLEGAL...and encouraging people not to show papers is fostering contempt for the law..
    Don't think every punk in this country isn't going "Yay, we don't need no stinking papers."
    This is going to bite Obama big time..although it is a giggle fest now..

  20. Now which papers should I be excused from producing until Romney publishes his returns that will merely show he is rich..O MY "a crime, a sin and horror in small minds"
    Can I drive without a license..illegals about insurance..illegals about crossing borders without passports..illegals do..
    Is this so funny to you? Are papers a joke? "Rich guys don't have to publish their tax returns, why do I have to have a drivers' license, I don't need no stinking papers."

  21. BeSafer
    Pandering is tidbits to tigers.."nice kitty, nice kitty."

  22. I wonder WHY so many people are interested in Mitt Romney's financial fortune. Obama is a multi-millionaire. SO what is the difference?

    Voters should FOCUS on Jobs and the Economy - not how much money a person makes. And if Mitt Romney has the intelligence, and business accumen, to create wealth, earn millions of dollars, and start many business - which hire people too - I say THAT should be the major FOCUS for whether he would be a good president, or not.

    So some folks need to re-think the the qualifications both candidates have for being president. Obama has a proven track-record of being UNABLE to correct a bad economy, or foster private industry's creation of JOBS. Indeed, if Obama had his way, we would SPEND ourselves into the poor-house (which is where we are headed now).

    Romney also has a proven track-record - but it is one of being ABLE to fix a bad economy lower taxes (as Gov in Mass.), and help private industry (he saved the Olympic Games), and to lead the turn-around of weak businesses (through Bain Capital) by creating new businesses that eventually prospered.

    In fact, Romney did with Bain Capital exactly what many business stil do TODAY - with mergers, acquisitions, buy-outs, IPO;s, etc. - all in pursuit of a better organization and profitability. And those results are what creates JOBS, HIRES people, and ensures a company will survive.

    So Romney has released one year of his tax returns. What if he released 10 years. It would make no difference to voters - because Romney's tax return are personal; not evidence of his ability to run the United States governmet.

    Obama has had his shot; I am willing to give Romney a chance. Surley, he has more experience and knowledge about the business of America than Obama has. Obama has proven that already by his failings - and, while I am at it - LIES.

    Just like BIDEN lied to the La Raza conference when he made a FALSE ASSERTION: "Imagine what the Supreme Court will look like after four years of Governor Romney."

    Excuse me, but the portender to the Obama throne does not even know that Supreme Court Justices are appointed FOR LIFE - and Romney could not change the make-up of that court unless one of the Justices died.

    And finally, Obama said during his LAST 2008 campaign that his health care plan would "...not cost taxpayers one dime." Well, well, well. Here we are with 42 Billion in taxes coming up - and more health care taxes and regulations that will kill jobs and further decimate the economy.

    SO vote for your favorite candidate, but think about WHY you are doing it, and what the impact will be for the next 4 years. And don't take what I have said for granted. Look it up. It has been reported in many places in the press.

    Biden is a know flim-flam man. He was an honorable Senator, but somehow - after being chosen to serve as Vice President - he has become a fool.

  23. xtra: I stated, "Romney does not have any Swiss Bank Accounts" You confirmed that..he closed them..

    Right. He closed them because he knew the majority of Americans would frown upon a man running for President that has no faith in the country he wants to be President of. Newt Gingrich knew this, millions of Republicans knew this, but the other billionaires with Swiss bank accounts chose Romney for you.

  24. Bill_Gordon
    When I was in business, I had various accounts all over the country. I had reasons for keeping funds separate and in different states, none of that had to do with taxes. There are business reasons for transferring funds through international account, including swiss bank accounts. Romney is not a trust fund kid who needs tax shelters and he gave 16% of his income to charity..

    Now..answer me..which papers should I be excused from having until Romney shows his tax returns or..ever having at all because Biden is an open border advocate? I have to have papers to get into any Federal that unfair, discriminitory or what..???
    Biden is equating papers with papers and while it gets a big applause from La won't play anywhere else..

  25. Teamster:
    The next time a cop asks for your driver's license, just tell him "Romney won't show me his papers, I won't show you mine!
    Be sure to stick your tongue out..for good measure

  26. Getting dizzy xtra, you sure are spinning alot.

    You started off with Romney had no offshore accounts or swiss account. Now faced with the facts that he has PERSONAL offshore accounts and had a PERSONAL Swiss bank account, you shift to its normal for a BUSINESS. Explain to me why an individual would need PERSONAL offshore accounts and a Swiss bank account. I've travelled the world and have never had the need for foreign accounts.

    I'm all for people getting rich, it's the ones that lie, cheat, and steal that I have a problem with. I bet Warren Buffett doesn't have any PERSONAL Swiss bank accounts. Buffett has bought many companies, they are ALL doing well. Romney's record is bankrupting a large percentage of the companies he touches, while making millions for himself in the process. Yeah that's what America needs. NOT.

  27. Bill Gordon:
    I bet Warren Buffet does have personal swiss bank accounts..and while we are about Pelosi's link to American Samoa..and the stimulus money that was poured into there.
    I don't have any problem with people holding public office but when Reid never held a private job in his life and he is much? I would like to see a more balanced investigation into public officials tax returns and business dealing..To single out Romney is a smear job..
    AND you haven't addressed what I said to you..
    Biden said "he (Romney) wants you to show your papers but he won't show us his."
    Are the papers Biden referring to..requested by Romney or is it US Law that "wants you to show your papers." it is just Romney (some rich old guy who won't show me his) who requires that I show a drivers license to a police officer...
    Or is Biden speaking about US LAW?

  28. In that case..Biden should have said, "The US Law requires that we show proof of identity but the US Law does not require a candidate to release certain financial or personal papers.
    Biden is a FOOL..and a liar..he is lying that it is Romney who "wants us to show our papers." It is the United States Government.
    Biden should respect the Law and the US Government..not foster contempt with lies and half truths

  29. Teamster:
    Biden is a liar.
    Biden said, "Romney wants you to show your papers." IT is the US Government that wants you to show your papers..
    Candidates are required to file income tax. Whether any candidate is required to release those taxes or again US Law.
    What is the point here..The IRS isn't investigating those what is your interest? To prove that Romney is rich or that he paid..legally too little tax or what?
    Is there llegations of wrong doing?
    Or is it just class envy and hoping to dig up some legal dirt about rich guys?
    I don't know..seems a bit sick to me..

  30. I know One Thing..I vote
    I listened to years of "George Soros," Reverend Wright" "Barry Sortero" "Birth Certificates"..I know Obama has sealed his records..because I also listened to "Bush was a C student" so what was Obama ..To me, Obama is the most secretive and dissembling official ever..but I gave him the benefit of the doubt..I chose to give all the arguments the weight of "possible smear."
    Obama has failed as President
    I am giving weight to "Romney's tax return" the same credibility.."possible smear."
    Biden is running for office. He is Obama's surrogate and he said, "Romney wants us to show him our papers." Whos is "us" and what papers is he referring to?
    Is Biden an official of the US Govenment that has a legitimate interest in "our papers?"
    Is Biden stating that the Official US Government, Obama and Biden are not interested in our papers, in fact..that we should not have to have papers because Rich Guys have swiss bank accounts?
    Now Romney
    We know he had a swiss bank account. He declared it.,,He closed it in 2010..yet a poster stated "he closed it when he decided to run for office. If memory serves me, Romney rna for presdient in 2008.
    Now I have the choice of two candidates after reading Bidens speech..
    And I would not vote for Biden..or Obama

  31. The left is despair ate. The Romney witch hunt is evidence of how hard up the Obama campaign is to give Romney a black eye. It isn't working. Obama has too much baggage on his back from the failed policy decisions the past three plus years. America knows the real story about the president. It is not good news.

  32. If Romney has followed the laws then what is the fuss about? There are plenty of foreign nationals that have accounts here in the USA, why does Biden not question them? If any poster here thinks saving tax dollars is a crime or dishonorable please post your tax return showing you overpaid because you are such a great citizen. The blame goes to the tax code on this whole discussion.

  33. I notice a lot of people changing the subject when the concern is that Romney has not released his tax returns. How can you excuse him when you don't even have any information about whether he has broken laws or not? Everyone's financial situation is different and some on this chat have compared theirs to Mr Romney's. You can't really do that until you know his facts. Romney is the only presidential candidate who has not released his tax returns going back 10 years. Never has anyone drug his feet as much as Mitt Romney has in releasing his tax returns. Has he committed fraud? or not declared everything he should have? has he hidden assets? has he collected money he hasn't reported? 'Full disclosure' is the standard for anyone seeking higher office or appointment. I believe there is something quite damning in those tax returns that Mitt doesn't want folks to know about. Why else would he not be releasing them? Lots of folks have money. I don't care if Romney has money. I do care if he has broken the law. Release your returns Mr Romney and let the chips fall where they may. Its the right thing to do.