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Letter to the editor:
Tuesday, July 3, 2012 | 2 a.m.
When gas prices were so high not that long ago, President Barack Obama got a lot of flak. It was all his fault and he was blamed.
Well, now that gasoline prices have fallen nearly 40 cents in the past few weeks, shouldn’t he get the credit and the glory? It doesn’t work that way.
Being president has to be the worst job in the country; no one is ever satisfied.
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We give Obama credit for the fact that the economy is going back into recession.
With the economy in free fall demand for oil is in free fall so the price is dropping
With Obamacare driving down job creation and Obama's $500 Billion tax increase coming January 2013 the economy is stalled
The Propoganda Machine has moved on to another subject.
Partisans don't work that way.
Besides, I believe some commenting here are campaign operatives whose job it is to spin on behalf of their candidate and against the opponent.
You can tell from the incomplete information that is given, that it isn't reliable.
Nothing like getting the facts for oneself and remembering them. Then you can tell who is trying to manipulate in comments for partisan gain.
No President should get alot of blame or credit for gas prices because there is really very little a President can do to affect them.
What Presidents and Congress should take blame for is not crafting and implememting a coherent energy policy for America.
Michael
In part the reason the prices of gas went down is because President Obama signed an Executive Order to increase the margin percentage on oil trades to 50 percent from zero. It wasn't his ingenuity. Sarah Palin, as well as other conservative policial commenters, told him to do it months before he did. Even getting together on national TV and telling him to do it several days before he did. The president listened and took their advice. To his credit.
CarmineD
Most commodities respond to the law of supply and demand. The greater the demand, the price goes up. The lower the demand, the price goes down.
Oil companies have in the past created shortages to force prices up.
Speculators can create shortages on paper and drive up prices.
Futures contracts can also be used to increase gas prices, and in some cases lower prices.
Southwest Airlines is a great example of wisely buying futures contracts for aviation fuel. They bought it at the right price. That was the reason they have not been charging for carry on baggage, and also their low fares.
DiFasio; Would you enlighten us with some links that would verify your post at 5:17 am
Gas prices are falling due to a lousy no-growth economy. Thanks, Obumma.
One of the reasons that we have a no growth economy is the constant obstruction by the radical extremist so-called republicans that took over the house of Representative in the off year election of 2010.
These uncaring so-called republicans have actually been sabotaging the economy to make the American workers feel more economic pain, so they-the miserable failure republicans can blame President Obama and the Democrats.
Since they have been in control of the House of Representative, these sadist republicans have voted against any jobs bills, any further stimulus, and voted against unemployment extensions for the long termed unemployed in Nevada.
Heller, Heck, and Amodei have voted for cuts in food stamp, at a time when we have an unemployment rate of almost 12%.
For some Nevadans, food stamps are all they have to live on.
Shame, Shame, Shame on the three NV sadists above.
The President of the United States has nothing to do with gasoline pricing.
Freakin' hysterical comments from the haters as usual. Six months ago the price of gas was skyrocketing and they were blaming President Obama's "economy-ruining policies". Now they price of gas is coming down significantly and they blame President Obama's "economy-ruining policies". Which means either they are all named Mitt Romney, since they have a unique talent of changing their position on an issue mid-sentence, or they have no earthly clue of what they are talking about. My money's on the latter.
Kevin, save your money. You'll need it for the "skyrocketing" electric bill.
The right will never give President Obama credit for anything. They will make comments such as "When George W. Bush was president we never had a terrorist attack", or the credit for killing Bin Laden should go to Bush. I've heard people lay TARP on President Obama in negative comments not knowing it was initiated by Bush. This last example can be defined by the Darrell Issa witch hunt because Fast and Furious was started under Bush as was Solyndra and other right wing talking points. The Heritage Foundation wrote the health care law for Massachusetts but when it was implemented under President Obama they freaked. I've even heard gays defend GOP policies not understanding the GOP would burn them at the stake if they could. The beating John Roberts is taking from the right shows just how hypocritical these people are, they are for the United States Constitution as long as interpretations agree with their ideology.
As individuals Americans can be brilliant, collectively they can be dolts and idiots because they are easily swayed by propaganda.
Let's give the president credit for another solar company going bankrupt.
http://nlpc.org/stories/2012/06/29/yet-a...
Where would we ever be without crony-capitalism?
Obama had little to do with the European Crises, a falling Euro dollar and reports of a slower Chinese economy which were the main factor of the recent fall in oil. Today gas is up over 10 cents a gallon in the futures market because of concern over Iran nuclear, a freight dispute with China and higher factory orders in the USA, again, nothing to do with Obama really, though his energy and dollar polices will effect the markets long term.
"Would you enlighten us with some links that would verify your post at 5:17 am"
If I'm wrong about Obama and the Reps handing him a solution months and days before he signed the EO, do your own research and prove me wrong.
CarmineD
Comment removed by moderator. Name Calling
Hey Carmen .. Are you sure that Obama did not have the solution first and the Right got wind of it and made appearances before he actually singed it? How do you know that the President didn't already have this idea and the right found out about it and went public first to take credit?
Can you prove it?
Goes both ways!!!
Peacelily 5:07 a.m. stated:
Partisans don't work that way.
Besides, I believe some commenting here are campaign operatives whose job it is to spin on behalf of their candidate and against the opponent.
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AMEN to that. Thank you Peacelily for everything you do everyday. People need to be told every day to research and go on a fact finding mission. I read your other comment and agreed with that one as well. I liked your ideas.
We all need to come together and remind people to go on fact finding missions. We need to help them do that by providing links. Together we CAN make a difference. And we could learn from others as well.
Traguh: Tell the NV citizens what you did in Seminole County Florida.
@TEA: Dip will never admit that GM is way underwater and they outsource 200,000 jobs overseas. He still thinks that Obama kept it alive and that its doing well.
Looks like TEA has met his match :)
"How do you know that the President didn't already have this idea and the right found out about it and went public first to take credit?
Can you prove it?
Goes both ways!!!"
"No one can prove a negative."
I have the proof and don't have to provide it unless I want to. I don't want/need to. If you two, and others who think like you, did your research and knew current events, facts, and circumstances, instead of believing everything silly thing you read in the liberal media, you'd have it too.
CarmineD
TEA - "Obama is aiding in that endeavor with his idiotic policies."
Exactly what would those policies be? I'd like to understand what is it you see that the rest of us don't.
Rupert Murdoch does not run a news empire, he runs an espionage and propaganda empire.
'The tricks of Fox's trade'
http://www.observer.com/2010/opinions/ho...
And,
'14 propaganda techniques Fox "news" uses to brainwash Americans.
http://www.truthout.org/14-propaganda-te...
And,
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mys5381
Correction for my last link posted at 4:47 pm.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/actual-ne...
There is a new Obama ad stating Obama is an "insourcer" of jobs..Obama claims to be "insourcer in chief."
Did anyone see the movie "Swing Vote" where "insource" is defined?
I give Obama credit for the most unintentionally funny campaign ad I have ever seen..
In January, 2011, GM invested $541 million to build a manufacturing plant in Mexico.
The stock market closed on another high.
Who's fault is that?
Vidi.....
Rupert Murdoch said that Romney should get rid of
his advisors.
I hope Romney keeps them.
Carmine and Sarah Palin make a good pair.
Theresa......
YES, PRESIDENT OBAMA should get credit for gas
prices going down.
And credit for saving our country from the WORST
REPUBLICAN MESS SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION!
Republicans are total failures.
FOUR MORE YEARS FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!
InSourcing:
In October, 2011..after years of objection by Teamstser Union and the express wishes of Congress, Obama unilaterally allowed Mexican trucks access to American roads ..under NAFTA
TEA.....
After the horrible mess republicans made of our
economy American voters won't let crazy
republicans anywhere near the White House.
Don't get your hopes up.
extra....
That was a bush/republican plan to kill union
jobs.
So far it's a no-go.
Teamster
NAFTA was Clinton. Obama opened the border. The Teamsters may have obtained an injunction for a no-go but I can't document that.
Nothing happened under Bush.."or under the Bushes"
Teamster:
The Stock Market closed on another high because the "Rich Guys" who have control of your union pension fund are gambling your pension funds in the world's largest casino...the NY Stock Exchange..
Not to worry..If they lose, Obama will bail them out..
Hey TEA, why is it that you never talk about
Romney's policies?
Let's hear about how good they are.
What is his replacement for Obamacare?
We need to know.
Teamster:
Romney does not have policies. As Chief Executive, I believe, he will carry out policies enacted by Congress as representatives of the American people.
Obama has held (1) cabinet meeting in six months. Obama meets with his campaign staff every two (2) weeks.
Romney Care in Massachussetts is Ted Kennedy Care. Romney is an Executive..He executed that plan for Kennedy.
Romney, as President, will execute the office of President in accordance with the Constitution and the wishes of Congress.
Obama is ruler, implementing his agenda. Obama has a unilateral vision ..lots of policies. Romney is not a bully pulpit jackboot.
Frankly, I am heartily sick of bully pulpit presidents pushing their agendas..("agenda's" is code for "pandering to win votes")
extra.....
Romney is a typical republican bully.
Who do you think you are kidding?
Romney held a gay kid down in school and cut his
hair off.
Romney said that he will kill Obamacare.
Only a bully will make a statement like that
And Romney will be a puppet of rove, bush and
all of the other republican rulers who are waiting
in the wings.
We're not stupid.
We're not going back to those crazy bush years.
Extra....
We already know that Romney doesn't have any
policies.
Read the new AP report about Romney's mystery
offshore firm.
TEA.....
Your answer is all fox republican spin.
All BS.
Obamacare is the law of the land, period.
Thank God heartless republicans can't stop it.
Get used to it.
Teamster:
Arguing whether Romney used the word "kill" or merely meant "kill" in fact having an inane discussion about the rhetorical use of the word "kill" And believing or disbelieving an unverified and unverifiable story concerning the actions of teenagers 50 years ago...is the same as arguing that Obama was born in Kenya and/or is a Muslim..
Believe what you want but don't expect me to accept inane and pointless points or give credence to "Big Bad Bush."
TEA......
You republicans destroyed our economy and middle
class.
No matter how much you republicans cry, you're
not getting the keys back.
PRESIDENT OBAMA is staying in the drivers seat.
Get used to it.
extra.....
I gave you facts, something you republicans don't
like.
Another fact...
Romney tied his own dog to the roof of his car
and drove to Canada.
The dog got sick and deffacated all over the roof
of his car.
He had to hose the car off.
YES, He's a bully.
Teamster
You said the same thing before the 2010 election.."The democrats will retain control of Congress."
As for the "enquiring minds" fascination with Romneys assets..it would much more entertaining if the Press would pursue Reid and Pelosi's financial dealings as zealously..That would make an interestng read..Or Kerry's..or a few other Senators who have never had a private sector job but seem to have amassed great wealth..
BTW..Romney having wealth does not make having wealth illegal..and unless AP can prove malfeance..it is none of their business..
Happy 4th of July.
Mark:
Is that what Teamster is..an obamabot? I know he isn't a Teamster.
Happy 4th of July!
finally I agree with Teamster about an event, issue or policy
TEA....
Another republican poll?
PRESIDENT OBAMA will go down in history as one of
the all time best presidents.
Get used to it.
FOUR MORE YEARS.
extra.....
YES, I'm a TEAMSTER with over 25 years in the
TEAMSTERS UNION.
And extra,
AND no wanna-be president had a company out of
THE U.S. or had money in a bank OUT OF THE
COUNTRY.
Start thinking, man.
"Carmine and Sarah Palin make a good pair."
Teamster:
That's the first thing you said in a long time that is right.
CarmineD
TEA:
Thanks for the presidents' ratings and rankings. I always find it interesting to see how history and time affect a president's legacy. And how the ranks change with time. Two of note: Eisenhower and Reagan. Both were not appreciated after their terms. Over time, they've moved up. Others who were adored, came down.
Truman decided not to run for a second term reading the tea leaves correctly. And left DC with a 22 percent approval rating. One of the worse. Yet has moved up since.
Harding is another. Exceedingly popular. Governed during mostly good times and healthy economic conditions. Yet always rated low.
CarmineD
A second term, good or bad, would enhance Obama's legacy. It will be a hardsell to pull it off. People like him but don't believe him. Especially American voters. If Obamacare's leagcy does anything it will prove Obama straddled the fence between Commerce Clause and Tax Authority to argue its constitutionality, never really making a cogent case for either. And he's a supposed Constitutional expert and professor.
CarmineD
Memo to America:
You're future needs you to not vote for Romney. If you need to hold your nose to vote for Obama, so be it. The Supreme Court of the United States in the big picture runs this country.
A vote for Romney is a vote for the temporary (at least a generation) elimination of the middle class and the outsourcing of the American dream.
We will have political vultures like TEA, RefNV, Future, BobJack, and Carmine the religious chauvinist who will take their bats and balls and beat you over the head with them until you acquiesce quietly.
To be blunt, I do not care if you hate Obama, think he was born in a cave in Africa and he eats fido for breakfast lunch or dinner, Romney needs to lose.
If you want the United States of Corporations and religious loons with Karl Rove being the Wizard -- Vote Romney.
If you want a chance at a decent America, vote Obama.
JefffromVegas:
"OutSourcer" Versus Insourcer, It Matters (Obama campaign ad)
"Where's the hell is Dewey?" "He got laid off" "BS, he got Insourced." (Swing Vote, Movie by Kevn Kostner)
Interesting links:
http://www.thenation.com/blog/168711/rom... (Don't Forget to Click on the Vanity Fair Link)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/03...
http://www.barackobama.com/mitt-romney-o...
Love San Diego:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/031...
Extra said:
"Teamster:
Arguing whether Romney used the word "kill" or merely meant "kill" in fact having an inane discussion about the rhetorical use of the word "kill" And believing or disbelieving an unverified and unverifiable story concerning the actions of teenagers 50 years ago...is the same as arguing that Obama was born in Kenya and/or is a Muslim..
Believe what you want but don't expect me to accept inane and pointless points or give credence to "Big Bad Bush."
I say:
It is not any kink of apples and apples comparison. The same way if you say you are a Christian, Muslim, Baptist -- whatever, I will accept your word on it. Obama says he is a Christian. I accept it. That Obama is not a Muslim is a FACT. Obama being an American is a FACT.
Another false equivalency by a right wing radical.
Obama needs to win to keep you from getting control of the SCOTUS.
Romney was a college cheerleader and sniffed jock for the college hockey team as their manager. 'nuff said.
We don't need Dubya Jr.
@ BeSafer, 7/3/12 @ 5:02 p.m.
"I think you DemoLibs are missing the point. I don't watch Fox News unless Obama makes a blunder. Since I don't watch reality shows, Fox does a good job making light of the subject. Actually I listen to NPR"
And in other comments, BeSafer posts links to YouTube and The Daily Beast.
Before Dubya's invasion of Iraq, gas was $1.50!
Jeff.....Great comments again.
These republican clowns, goof-balls and other
assorted extreme right-wing wack-jobs ARE THE
MINORITY VOTER.
AND NEVER BEEN THIS DESPERATE IN THEIR MISERABLE
LIVES.
They fool no one here and the American voter
will NOT BE FOOLED in November by old, greedy
Romney.
PRESIDENT OBAMA will be re-elected.
And Carmine, RefNV, TEA and Redrockey will still
be crying like little babies.
@ TEA 7/4/12 @ 9:47 a.m. "How many Dems are skipping the Dem convention now? Must be creeping up on 20."
DINOs and Blue Dogs are worried they will lose in their primaries, and they should be worried.
"And Carmine, ....will still
be crying like little babies."
You have me confused with an Obama supporter. Wrong.
Your guy is going down for the dirt count in Nov. He's a one term president.
CarmineD
Obama is nothing but an agent of the Bankers. This is why nobody has gone to jail for stealing trillions of dollars from Americans.
There is no confidence in anything anymore. The money is corrupt. The Stock Market is nothing but a vacuum for high frequency scumbags. Savers are getting reamed daily along with working people.
Obama was installed to keep the crooks out of jail and the masses calmed. He has been wildly successful at his two tasks.