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Sunday, Dec. 30, 2012 | 2 a.m.
To start 2012, we wrote this on Jan. 1: “We certainly hope the new year will bring better news — significantly better. Recently, there have been signs that economically things are improving, but there is still a long way to go. The question is if the nation will see any significant progress over the course of this year. “It will be difficult to make much progress because this is an election year and much of the nation’s leadership will be enmeshed in election-year politics. Work in Washington, which has been painful to watch, could grind to a halt, particularly if ...
The SUN COMPLAINS ABOUT OBAMA "Witness the "fiscal cliff" negotiations coming down to the last minute. This is a matter that could have been handled a year ago -- even weeks ago.But here we are, facing another avoidable crisis because of the dysfunction in politics.
Part of the problem is that there is no room to negotiate. Everything seemingly has become a matter of non-negotiable principle, whether it's taxes on the rich or spending programs."
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Well what did we really expect out of this debacle. Obama and Reid ran out the clock by staying in Hawaii until just before New Years Eve.
The great 2012 faux fiscal cliff negotiations failed American
We are no closer to a solution to reform entitlements and address the nation debt.
Obama will be running around calling the potential deal a tremendous victory for himself because some rich people have to pay a lot more taxes at the expense of losing 700,000 jobs. Obama won - yippee
But this is a huge American failure that will be passed to the next generation - if we last that long before China pulls the plug on propping up US bonds.
Obama failed to meet his fundamental 2008 and 2012 campaign promises to limit the growth in spending.
America is the loser. The people are the losers.
the SUN is upset about the Obama - Reid plan to implement the envy tax
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In a preChristmas Oval Office meeting Boehner queried Obama "I put $800 billion on the table. What do I get for that?"
Obama sniped "You get nothing. I get that for free!"
WSJ 12-22-12 pg. A6
And Harry Reid held a 3 hour Senate session to watch the movie Lincoln with free popcorn.
Then both Obama and Reid flew to Hawaii for vacation and Obama told everyone to drink eggnog and sing carol and hope for a better result.
Well said, I couldn't agree more.
Future exemplifies the problem written in the editorial so well.
Future argues that the the negotiations on the "fiscal cliff" (actually, a political ploy...) were hampered when "Obama and Reid ran out the clock by staying in Hawaii until just before New Years Eve." An interesting viewpoint.
1. I've found nothing to indicate that Harry Reid went to Hawaii. I'd appreciate a reference.
2. Obama did actually join his family on vacation in Hawaii, leaving Washington on December 21
3. The House recessed for its own Christmas break on December 20 - while the President was still working.
4. The Senate left town on December 2.
5. As I write (1122 am, Dec 30) the House STILL is not back in session, although both the Senate and the President were back in the office on Dec 27.
It's clear where the down time is. Neither the Senate nor the President can work effectively while the House is off on vacation, although this year they've been trying.
Reference my point #4: scratch "Dec 2", should be "Dec 21."
Military spending was renewed in it's entirety and continues to constitute half our the federal government's spending. The wealthy still choose all our politicians and our elections are still won based on who has the most powerful campaign donors. The only fiscal divide that matters is the one between the wealthy and the poor and that one only continues to get wider while politicians and the media refuse to even acknowledge it exists and could be fixed. So, nothing has changed.
Well done... 100% agreed.
SUN......Great editorial.
If the country is to move ahead and re-build the
American dream, greedy republicans need to back
off.
They lost the election.
The majority of Americans have already spoken.
Taxes must go up on the greedy rich, period.
And they will, on Jan. 1.
Greedy republicans also need to keep their greedy
hands OFF OF SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.
We average and low income Americans can't afford
any more cuts to these great programs, period.
This also means NO INCREASE IN AGE to qualify for
these programs.
What we do need are jobs and better paying jobs.
And less part time jobs.
LIVE BETTER/WORK UNION!
We need a President who has some kind of leadership skills. Clinton was able to negotiate and get important legislation passed. Obama takes the position that there is no negotiation allowed. My way or no way. Obama could learn a lot from Clinton.
Silly editorial......just to blame one side is cleary petty and political.
The editorial is a condemnation of itself.
The Democrats also have leave it or take it approach.
In the next five minutes if they wanted to they could pass a law to extend the tax cuts for all.
The amount of money that raising taxes on the "rich" is tiny when compared annual trillion dollar deficit.
Petty and political.....
So, the U. S. House of Representatives seems to be the major stumbling block. The House Republicans seem adamant that they will not support a tax increase for the wealthiest 2% or even the wealthiest 0.2% as in the so-called Plan B. Meanwhile 98% of us are left to wonder "How about us".
It seems we have elected too many Congressmen who are more interested in being right than in doing anything right.
Not mentioned is the collapse of the world order thanks to evil countries like Syria, Iran and North Korea. One already has nuclear capability, another is closer, likely spring and/or early summer 2013 if Israeli and US Intel are correct, and another plans to use/using chemical warfare on innocents. Where's the USA and other countries? Where's the leadership? Non-existent. It's a repeat of the 30's and 40's all over again. That got us WW11 for waiting and waffling. What will this bring?
CarmineD
There are three things necessary to fix congress-JUST LIKE are DONE IN OTHER REAL DEMOCRACIES. (The US is not a democracy-it is a plutocracy-AND CITIBANK SAYS SO!)
1. No member of congress can have a net worth exceeding that of the AVERAGE american.
2. No member of congress can serve more than 2 terms.
3. No member of congress can be an alumni of the good old boys-ivy league schools. (where the good old boys conspire against the US people)
The Sun wouldn't be doing it's job if it couldn't find republicans to blame. Seen any spending cuts lately?
Things won't change in politics until they're forced to; this from the members of Congress, The Senate, former Presidential Cabinet members and other noted citizens who last year made repeated appearances on MSNBC urging us to use the internet to gather the overwhelming public opinion they deem necessary to force campaign funding reform. Witnessing their efforts and recognizing the will of my neighbors I envisioned such would become a done deal and I suggest that it would have had not 99% of our media failed to pick up their message and carry it to citizens. As such we must once again strip news media ownership from those whose control poses flagrant conflict of interest. The ownership makeup of our nations media is as big a disgrace as is our campaign funding method.
If America is to more forward, bias and prejudice must be eliminated. At the very least, actions is needed to remove those people in position of authority who display in words and actions in treating people differently in an adverse manner, who do not look like, or act like the people in the majority in America.
Not only will politics changes, America will change.
Carmine...you routinely align yourself with the "reduce taxes, cut spending" crowd yet here you are asking what we are going to do about Syria, Iran and North Korea. The Chinese have already made it abundantly clear that North Korea is off-limits. The Israelis would like our imprimatur to start a war with Iran and let's not pretend that it will be only limited strikes using advanced technology as we well know how that will turn out. Syria, if we intervene, has all the potential to expand conflict in the Middle East drawing us more deeply into the quagmire. But let's say that we should. How do you propose to pay for this expansion? No tricks now, Carmine. No obfuscation. No mealy mouth projections. Who will pay for the trillion dollar plus addition to our debt for these little adventures?
...To be clear, voting is the action needed to remove those who are not working in the best interest of all Americans.
Sun editorial please write an article about the inept senate. You usually bring up the House but never challenge Reids senate. Reid is a failure write about that. He has not passed a budget in 1300 days, write about that. Please explain and research why Obamas budget when presented to Reids senate didn't get one vote. And yes please write and resarch how you figure that with $16 trillion of debt that the US is on the road to recovery.
Your bias shows through way to much. Try being fair and do some real journalism and expose the FACTS>