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By Tovin Lapan (contact) 
Monday, Dec. 24, 2012 | 3:12 p.m.
A suspect is dead and police are seeking three of his cohorts after an apparent home invasion Monday morning at a Las Vegas apartment complex. Metro Police responded about 10:10 a.m. Monday to La Ventana Apartment Homes, 2901 N. Rainbow Blvd., near West Cheyenne Avenue, after a 911 call from neighbors. Metro Lt. Ray Steiber said four suspects – at least one of them carrying a firearm – knocked on the door of a first-floor apartment occupied by a couple and their infant. The assailants barged in when the woman occupant answered the door. The intruders were met with armed ...
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"Met with armed resistance". Thank you NRA for protecting our rights. If the anti-gun crowd had its way this would have been a walk-away for the armed intruders. One POS down three to catch.
I hope the family isn't too traumatized by the illegally armed criminal invaders not caring about their rights.
JeffFromVegas, were these the folks you wanted to arm??
I wonder if Heretic realizes that the Connecticut slaughter started by a son assassinating her mother in bed with here own weapons that she trained him to use?
Mschaffer, I know what your point is. Here is the reality; that mother should have acted sooner to stop the monster she raised. BTW, those weapons were then STOLEN by the deranged son.
Please try to stay relevant.
There are no coincidences. Intruders don't show up at a random door and barge in. This was planned and targeted why do you think the occupants had a firearm? Time will tell. That area is turning worse and worse.
"The assailants barged in when the woman occupant answered the door. The intruders were met with armed resistance."
What a different outcome it could have been without (presumably) dad taking his family's defense seriously! This is exactly the kind of thing our Article I, Section 11 protects. Check it out @ http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Const/NVConst...
"There are no coincidences. Intruders don't show up at a random door and barge in."
thekube -- indeed. Do enlighten us.
"Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, but Sam Colt made them equal." -- post-Civil War slogan found @ http://www.colt.com/ColtLawEnforcement/H...
Rarely are incidents whereby attackers were repelled (or better yet, put down) by a gun used for defense but it happens in far more cases than the "Main Stream Media" lets on since it does not meet their leftist agenda. The truth in this case is still in question, though.
I am going to echo the thought that "thekube" voiced in that I wonder why this location was chosen/targeted. Like KillerB and lvfacts101, I'd like to hear more details before giving unreserved praise.
"Like KillerB and lvfacts101, I'd like to hear more details before giving unreserved praise."
boftx -- good point, but it's hard to imagine what could justify showing up at a home like this with obviously malicious intent. Although it's not our place to imagine, I'd have to say it's one thing to confront another to air a grievance, but showing up at the family's door with a posse and armed -- what good can possibly come out of that? Just glad he was ready and able to keep his wife and child safe!
"There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
While one of the assailants most likely got what he deserved it is also highly doubtful the apartment dwellers hands are clean.
The fact the apartment occupant was ready with armed resistance says he was not surprised, and maybe expecting the assailants to show up.
I can picture it...the remaining three assailants running down the street yelling into their cell phones "boo got shot, boo got shot"
"The assailants barged in when the woman occupant answered the door. The intruders were met with armed resistance."
Unlike thekube and boftx, I see nothing strange about this statement ... this would read the same if the incident had happened at my house.
I carry, even when inside my house and lounging about.... good thing I do - when on the way to pick up my son from school on Friday afternoon (12-21-12), I was attacked by two vicious dogs as I stepped out of my courtyard gate.
I had to shoot and kill one of the mutts (the other ran away after the first dog went down) See Metro Event #121221-2354 if you want details... Trust me, it was not the way I wanted to start my Christmas Week, power washing blood off my sidewalk, drive, and garage door.
I'm sure that KillerB (who was NOT in support of the kube's post without some additional information) can tell you a thing or two about home invasions and how to repel the same - Unless you've had this happen to you, I'm sure that most people would be surprised as to how fast it can and does happen. There were a bunch of home invasions commited by a group of people in Rhode's Ranch a year or two ago ... all were random. The current invasion sounds a lot like that.
I, for one, even though I was prepared to defend myself, sure didn't expect two vicious snarling dogs to run up onto my property from the street and start trying to sink their teeth into my lower legs. Moral of this story - You never know what will happen as you step out of your door, at the movies, or while you watch TV... be prepared.
How dare these people not provide a safe place to burgel! Don't they know it is the Holiday Season, now a poor soul has lost his life and three others do without. What sort of place do we live in that people can defend themselves with deadly force? I thought California was a safe place to be a criminal, for shame on you for not seeing this.
Ohh, what we are in Nevada? Ok then eat dirt. One more got his due.
Dan,
I would like to take this at face value, but I always want surrounding details before I say how good it is to kill someone (even a dog.)
I also, like many others would like to see more facts. I don't think anyone here opposes Guns for Personal Protection, However if you need a 100 Bullet Drum or 31 Bullet Magazines to "Protect Yourself" we have some great shooting ranges that will help you. It would be terrible to take another persoms life, however if things turn out as stated, good for the person that was able to protect his family. I would hang a jury if they tried to prosecute him.
I have a special waterproof compartment in my shower and had pockets sewn into my pajamas to hold my piece. I mean you never know when you're gonna need it.
;-)
The NRA should step up and develop a training program for armed guards at apartment complexes. All that is needed is a Good Guy with a Gun and this nonsense will end overnight. QED.
Thank God the victim was a good shot and was able to blast one of the home intruders before his family got murdered! Kudos to the apartment owner for firing back and ridding the world of a scumbag. Merry Christmas!
You better be packing when you pass through this heighborhood.
I do not agree with assault weapons and think that some type of regulations should be passed, but for the sake of argument, if the homeowner had one he would have got all four.
Glad he had a gun to defend himself and his family. The bad guy gun was probably stolen.
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Hopefully this is a "lesson learned" for the three at large!
Interesting collection of comments. Wondering if the canine killer would have been a bit more cautious and observational while leaving the house if he were not carrying. Also curious if the invasion would have turned out differently had the man not the woman opened the door. It seems as though the bad guys (and gal) were looking to engage the male occupant, otherwise they would have simply capped the female upon entry. By her answering this gave the male occupant enough time to "collect" himself" and start shooting.
As with most comments to date, the information is still incomplete so we really do not know the whole story. Yet, as with most incidence of this nature, somehow the two parties are related.
Gang trouble. Who targets an apartment complex for home invasion?
"I would like to take this at face value, but I always want surrounding details before I say how good it is to kill someone (even a dog.)"
boftx -- prudent and welcome, but then this isn't a jury
"The NRA should step up and develop a training program for armed guards at apartment complexes. All that is needed is a Good Guy with a Gun and this nonsense will end overnight."
SunJon -- the NRA has nothing do do with any of this. As for what your "Good Guy with a Gun" scenario far too often turns into, have a look @ http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/dec...
"Hell is other people." -- Jean-Paul Sartre from his 1944 play "No Exit"
I have no problem with using a firearm to defend oneself, particularly in one's home. BUT. . . Witnesses say the shooting started inside, then went outside. And, the body was found in the parking lot. Shooting at intruders inside your residence is clearly self-defense. When they leave, are you still "defending yourself in your residence" if you then pursue them or do you become the aggressor at that point? I regularly disagree with lvfacts101. But in this case he's quite correct that: " The truth in this case is still in question. . ."
I urge you all to follow the link in KillerB's 8:26 letter. It took 137 shots for TRAINED SHOOTERS in Cleveland, Ohio, to stop the driver and passenger of a car. The driver actually may have been guilty of no more than driving past the police headquarters when his car - or possibly even another car in the area - backfired. And evidence at the time the story was reported indicated that the victims were probably not even carrying firearms, much less shooting them! Here, too, not all the facts are known.
Again note: this was all done by TRAINED SHOOTERS. Undoubtedly with regular shooting range practice and drill. 137 SHOTS at TWO unarmed people!!! What would a group of untrained, undrilled shooters have done in the same circumstances?
I handled incidents like this throughout my entire police career. I'll bet all these people knew each other and the shootout has something to do with drugs.
Robert...137 shots is nothing. In the war in Iraq the military required over 200,000 rounds of ammunition for every insurgent they shot. Many rifles had to be converted from selective fire to three shot burst mode because they were burning up all the guns and exhausting massive supplies of ammunition. At one point we had to buy ammunition from other countries because our ammo supply was dwindling to zero. Gunfire takes place across the United States constantly. More often than not no one gets hit. Americans have no training when it comes to firearms, very few practice and many can barely load and unload their weapons properly. Go to various shooting ranges and you will find bullet holes everyplace. They need range Masters from one end of the line to the next to keep people from shooting each other.
"Robert...137 shots is nothing. In the war in Iraq the military required over 200,000 rounds of ammunition for every insurgent they shot."
zippert -- as a career police officer your post exemplifies everything wrong with today's police. It's not a legitimate exercise of the state's police power to allow it to become militarized. That's prostituting it's function as tools sworn to not deprive any person of life, liberty or property without due process of law. Yet that's what cops do. Like putting nearly 50 bullets into two unarmed people sitting in their car. Or what Metro did to Gibson a year ago.
Utterly despicable.
"In a government of laws, existence of the government will be imperiled if it fails to observe the law scrupulously. Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy." -- Olmstead v. United States, 277 U.S. 438 (1928), Justice Brandeis dissenting
Is this a bad neighborhood?
The police could care less about being militarized. Police and fire get something in the neighborhood of 240 million 911 calls alone in a given year. In many of these situations they come across people who are dangerous beyond belief and killing is their number one priority. In several shootings in Los Angeles thousands of rounds were fired at policeman with numerous policeman and firemen shot.
In the case yesterday where the firemen were shot the suspect left a note, the suspect said something to the effect that he was going to do what he liked best. "Killing people".
I started in police work at the beginning of the drug wars many years ago. I had more friends shot in those years then we had shot during World War I, World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. All in all close to 15 friends shot. I had no idea what I was getting myself into. The numbers of crazy, violent, mentally ill people in this country number in the hundreds of thousands. And when these people go berserk the 911 system lights up like a Christmas tree. The stress level is very high and the adrenaline is flowing. That is why a great many shots get fired and sometimes innocent people get shot. It's tragic but there's no way around it. You do the best you can and have to live with.
In the course of a year there are about 6600 reports of police misconduct. Some of those are sustained in the police offenders deserve everything that they get. But when you factor in hundreds of millions of calls it's nothing.
Don't forget everyone in this country wants an easy buck. Alleging misconduct and suing police departments is how some make a living. It cost so much money to litigate these cases that they pay out about $350 million a year just to get rid of them. If litigation occurred in every one of these cases it would cost billions..
With the dead guy and car as evidence this should be an easy task for cops to identify and round up the other 3.
"With the dead guy and car as evidence this should be an easy task for cops to identify and round up the other 3."
True ... plus they can collect DNA evidence from the fecal matter the suspects left behind when they displayed aholes and elbows!
I'm still waiting for my concealed carry permit, but I can assure you that anyone bursting through my front door will be met with at least three 45 cal hollow points!
@ Greg Konkin wrote "Wondering if the canine killer would have been a bit more cautious and observational while leaving the house if he were not carrying."
Let me see if I understand your question - are you implying that I was not aware of my surroundings? Where you there? Geeze... go get a life. Of course I was paying careful attention to my surroundings. And carrying or not carrying has NOTHING to do with the facts.
Why didn't you ask about the owners of those dogs, how they were in violation of the law by letting the dogs roam the community, that the dogs had no shots, no collars. That the owners were ticketed by the Animal Control officer? That I had to stand there and watch a little girl cry her eyes out over the loss of her pet? That I had to undergo a lot of scrutiny from Metro for having fired a weapon in self defense? That I have a very vivid memory of what a 9mm hollow point does to an animal and that I have a full fidelity recording in my brain of the sound the dog made as it died in pain and suffering, forcing me to fire again to put it out of it's misery? And then later, how I had to explain to my 7 year old how Daddy had to shoot a dog in the very place where my boy plays?
You mean to say you are not concerned about any of that? Just concerned enough to make flippant and completely irrelevant remarks about me and a physical location to which you've never been???
Yeah, it all makes sense when you put it that way.
Good post Test_Guy, and glad it all worked out. Sorry for the children that had witnessed the sight but it could have been a lot worse if you didn't take action.
Vicious dogs are "one" of the reasons I started to carry as well.