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Mother, stepfather arrested in beating death of 7-year-old

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Updated Tuesday, Dec. 4, 2012 | 12:53 p.m.

A 7-year-old boy was beaten to death by his parents last week after he failed to read the Bible and do his homework, according to Metro Police. The boy's stepfather, Markiece Palmer, 34, and the boy's mother, Dina Palmer, 27, were arrested and charged with murder, child abuse and neglect in the beating death of Roderick Arrington, a second-grader at Roundy Elementary School. A hearing on the murder charges is scheduled for 7:30 a.m. Thursday in Las Vegas Township Justice Court. On Thursday, Arrington was transported to University Medical Center because he was unresponsive, according to an arrest report released ...

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  1. I hope these two get the crap beat out of them every day they are in jail.

  2. If some man hit my child hard enough to leave an open wound, that man would wake up (or not) with a meat cleaver in his skull.

  3. The majority of people have no business having children. These two individuals prove my point.

  4. I worked in prisons for nearly thirty years. Inmates convicted of crimes against children could never, no matter what, be "squared up" with those type crimes as long as they resided in my cell block. It's as simple as this, these two that killed this child would only get exactly what the law allows for them, never anything more, and maybe even at times a lot less, depending on the situation.

    Call me what you like, but those who either abuse maim and or kill children can never earn any type of respect or privileges in prison. Even inmates convicted of other crimes agree with me.

  5. I think I'm going to be sick.

  6. I am sick. I'm looking at my little 7 year old boy now. It's time to give him a hug and tell him that Daddy loves him.

  7. Wow... I hope these two wastes of skin rot in prison before they burn in hell. If there ever was a case for prison justice, this is it.

  8. Beating and killing your kid because he did not read the bible. What hypocrisy!

    Just more proof to the fact that more people have been killed in for religious reasons and religious wars than for any other reasons in history.

    This is just another body to add to this death toll.

    As Napoleon said "religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."

    And Marx summed it up with "Religion is the opiate of the masses."

    organized religions, bibles, etc. are all lies and just meant to control the 99% so rich people can exploit them.

    These two swallowed the kool aid and killed their kid. Prefrontal lobotomies and sterilization are in order.

  9. These two "people" know nothing about religion. This is just two idiots. The child is unresponsive and instead of calling 911 she calls her pastor? What exactly was the pastor going to do?

    Just another case of people who should remain childless their entire lives...if they make it that far. There's no shame in not having children and just being husband and wife. Not every marriage should bring new children into this world. Sadly this child was born into a family of losers. Tragic case.

  10. "...independent filmmaker who released a 23-minute short film last year called "Broken," which was based on his life experiences."

    I'll bet that was a real masterpiece.

    Abuse like these criminals laid on that child should not be tolerated.

  11. Where was the school system when all this was going on ?

  12. If you've ever wondered how bronze age thinkers would behave
    in the 21st century--I believe you now you now have your answer. Any civilized and rational person who thinks the Bible gives good advice on how to respond to rebellious children, has clearly not read it.

    He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15

    He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

    Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. -- Psalm 137:9

    Should we not expect this from someone who apparently values their religion above reason and logic? Well at least if they go to prison, they'll be up to speed with their fellow comrades who found God.

  13. Typical scumbags hiding behind religion and superstition to do whatever they want. I'll wager cash that neither of them takes responsibility for what they've done. They'll just blame "weakness", and claim that Jesus, forgives them, and that will absolve them of any wrongdoing in their own twisted minds. They just believe that their faith gives them a free pass to do whatever they like, and that they can simply invoke forgiveness to avoid any and all consequences of their actions.

    Lots of people worry about Muslims trying to evoke "Sharia Law" in America. That doesn't worry me half as much I genuinely fear Christians who will try to enact their own faith-based laws and rules to allow them harm anyone and anything that they see fit. Just look at the Facebook comments, "Sorry for your loss". Really? You shouldn't be sorry that someone murdered their own child, you should enraged! Accepting the fact that someone killed their own flesh and blood makes you almost as bad as that person because you willingly accept and validate their actions!

    If this is how "faith" drives someone's actions, then we should immediately stop all faith-based grants from the government. Who else is being harmed in "God's" name?

  14. You need a license to drive, a license to hunt, a license to fish but any loser can have kids.
    These parents failed, which means lose, which makes them Losers as parents.

  15. This MIGHT be another example of people who have or keep custody of kids primarily for the social welfare benefits they can collect. Certainly this child had a terrible life. Anyone think ANY parent ever sincerely asked how his day was going? Ever cared about what the kid thought or needed? So tell me how social welfare benefits are a good thing?

  16. UMC--emergency medical care for those WITHOUT insurance but those with medicaid.

  17. Sorry for your loss! To the murderer! No! No! No!

    That person may be sharing the same congragation I pray that Metro can also look into that church as well. She the mother called her pastor before calling 911

    There comes a time to have trials instead of plea bargains and this is the time so others can see how these people were motivated to do what they did so it can be documented and not concealed from public view and left for interuptation.

  18. Roslenda, seriously??

    It's a trauma center. People with horrible trauma go there. My husband went there. The bill was twenty grand and we have great insurance. It's not all free, or Medicaid, despite what you think.

    This story is about a beautiful little boy that died at the hands of the people that were supposed to be taking care of him and you have to make it about local UMC nonsense? I hope you are proud of yourself.

  19. @Wolfdog - CCSD is very limited in what they legally can do for children who suffer from abuse. They have counselors that children can turn to if they feel unsafe, but once the child is off school property they have no legal rights to protect the child. The counselors rely heavily on CPS to evaluate the situation and remove the child from the home. Unfortunately, CPS was notified but never made it out to the house. While it is nice to think that this horrific tragedy could have been prevented had CPS interfered, chances are the child would have remained with his mother and stepfather, especially with the nice facade they put on as being loving, doting parents.
    @Robert Rooney - very well said, I could not agree with you more.
    May this young, beautiful child rest in peace. I truly hope he is in a place where he can be free from fear and pain.

  20. Nothing is more dangerous than a man with a bible
    in one hand and a gun in the other...(in this case, a closed fist and boot)

  21. I cannot comprehend this. Beaten to death over Bible lessons (something ironic in that) and homework. Unebelievable.

    Two new long-term residents for the Department of Corrections.

  22. Comment removed by moderator. Inappropriate

  23. The parents should have given the child an age appropriate book of fairy tales to read.

  24. "A 7-year-old boy was beaten to death by his parents last week after he failed to read the Bible and do his homework, according to Metro Police."

    Takashi -- Metro is obviously wrong. The child was beaten to death by his mother and her accomplice. His father was half a continent away during all of this. Big difference, obviously. Did you bother to check who had legal custody of the boy? If the mother, which judge approved it?

    "Where was the school system when all this was going on ?"

    Wolfdog -- since when do government institutions replace actual parents??

    "Any civilized and rational person who thinks the Bible gives good advice on how to respond to rebellious children, has clearly not read it."

    dukeofdeath -- oh, they've read it all right. And live it. And those of that ilk nearly got the White House this election! Good post!

    "Certainly this child had a terrible life."

    Roslenda -- so far the facts show he was fine with his dad in Illinois. The question no one here is asking is why he was moved here.

    Shame on all you posters for posting zero about this boy's actual father! This tragedy aside, Takashi's article makes a compelling argument for throwing away Bible! and closing Facebook accounts!

    "After coming into contact with a religious man I always feel I must wash my hands." -- Friedrich Nietzsche, 1888 "Ecce Homo - Why I Am a Destiny"

  25. Comment removed by moderator. Name Calling

  26. dukeofdeath -- oh, they've read it all right. And live it. And those of that ilk nearly got the White House this election! Good post!

    KillerB: Don't equate what these animals did to this child with Christians. You're barking up the wrong tree.

  27. Have not heard a word from Dad

  28. Actually chuck333, the Christian Bible contains many instances of child abuse, murder and enslavement---much of it is either supported directly or indirectly or committed by God himself. So there is clear reason to associate Christians, as well as those of other faiths, with violence against children---which does illuminate the fact that KillerB is indeed barking up the correct tree.

  29. On a more general level, is there all that much difference between punishing a child for not reading the Bible and for not reading the Koran? Are those who would implement Christian doctrine in our laws any different than those who call for Sharia elsewhere?

    This is just disgusting on so many levels. :(

  30. "KillerB: Don't equate what these animals did to this child with Christians. You're barking up the wrong tree."

    chuck333 -- you seem clueless of christianity in general and American christianity specifically. In general its history is one of slaughter and genocide, educate yourself @ http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm#... Specifically a great deal of the extermination of this continent's native population was in the name of the christian version of god. The Sand Creek Massacre was led by a Methodist Presiding Elder -- only one of many, many examples (Google it). By no stretch of the imagination is this old thinking -- have a look @ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08... It seems the Palmers took his book's advice.

    Thomas Jefferson was right -- his word for the New Testament was "dunghill."

  31. "On a more general level, is there all that much difference between punishing a child for not reading the Bible and for not reading the Koran?"

    boftx -- the Quran, Torah and the christian Bible's Old Testament all have the same roots. You can find some of that @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran Some of dukeofdeath's earlier post quoting Ezekiel, et al., is instructive

    "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." -- attributed to Seneca the Younger (executed by Nero 65 A.C.E.)

  32. How many second-graders are forced to read the Bible or other book? How about a Mother or Father reading to the child. Didn't happen here. It does not take a career social worker to read between the lines. This child was beaten for "behavior" issues that seem to be behavior problems of the parents, not the child. There was NO PRETENSE that they were parenting this kid.

  33. What do these people have in common?
    Hilter, Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Kim Il-sung

    They hated religion.

    What else did they had in common?

    They murdered millions of their own citizens.

    Millions of other citizens died because of the decisions that they made.

    Millions of citizens from other countries also died.

  34. Why was this story not the Sun's or the LVRJ's above-the-fold-headline for today (12/4/2012)? And out of a population of 1,969,975 people here in Clark County, only about 15 of them are commenting about this horrific and tragic event? Are we so damned jaded as a society that the death of this innocent little boy will go largely unnoticed? I greatly fear that this will be the case.

  35. I find is sad that so many people who are outraged that these parents would beat their child as punishment are so eager to beat the couple as punishment.

    How are you guys any different. If beating someone as a punishment is acceptable to you, why are you so outraged that someone would do what you have such a strong desire to do yourselves, If beating someone as a punishment is unacceptable, how can you condone it?

  36. "I find is sad that so many people who are outraged that these parents would beat their child as punishment are so eager to beat the couple as punishment."

    bghs1986 -- welcome to the herd. Or the lynch mob. You choose. It's the price we all pay for free speech and the Sun graciously providing this forum.

    "Although the most clear-sighted judges of witches and even the witches themselves were convinced the witches were guilty of witchcraft, no guilt in fact existed. So it is with all guilt." -- Friedrich Nietzsche 1882 "Gay Science"

  37. Good old christian family values.

  38. They are following the bible, and according to the Republican Party, Biblical law trumps secular laws.
    Deuteronomy 21:18-21

    18 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

  39. KillerB: The United States and our Constitution were based on Judeo Christian Values. So back at ya try educating yourself. This is why people like yourself have a say in the makings of our great nation.
    Oh by the way christianity is a philosophy not a religion.
    And I never said that God was as forgiving as some may think. I have read the Bible and know of the punishments that God handed down.

  40. Interestingly enough, that's exactly what the Bible told them to do.

  41. Is it Jeff? If so please inform us where in the Bible it says to beat your child to death for not reading the Bible or doing your homework.

  42. "KillerB: The United States and our Constitution were based on Judeo Christian Values. So back at ya try educating yourself."

    chuck333 -- you're absolutely wrong

    "As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims] ..... The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan nation." -- Treaty of Tripoli (1797), carried unanimously by the Senate and signed into law by John Adams (the original language is by Joel Barlow, US Consul)

  43. @chuck333..."Oh by the way christianity[sic] is a philosophy not a religion." When will my fellow conservatives stop parroting Fox News without taking a moment to determine the validity of what you hear.

    You little gem was the latest foot in mouth of
    Bill O'Reilly, and I'm sorry, Bill was wrong here, something you could have learned by opening a dictionary.

    A religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, considers the origin of mankind, and involves the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

    While a philosophy is the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence as an academic discipline rather than a spiritual one.

    While there is a Christian Philosophy, Christianity us a religion.

  44. SgtRock,

    Hitler was a Roman Catholic. The Nazis wore belt buckles and cufflinks which read 'gott mit uns' (god with us). Hitler frequently railed on secularism, and how important it was to make sure everyone was raised religiously.

    The whole 'Hitler was an atheist' thing is pretty new, and you might want to avoid repeating it until you've done the research yourself.

    However, the truth is, most christians would rather repeat the lie, even knowing it's not true, rather than admit one of the most successful murderers of all time was a roman catholic.

  45. chuck333 and SgtRock need to do more research before claiming to know what they in fact, do not actually know. I'm mean no disrespect towards these two fine gentlemen, but it is patently obvious that they have not done any inquiring into opposing arguments, otherwise they would not make such ill informed claims. To try and enlighten them now is inappropriate and off topic. Let me leave them with this---when was the last time you heard a story of a child being abused for refusing to read David Hume or Emanuel Kant or Christopher Hitchens?

  46. @duke: agreed this is off topic. I did read up on Hume and found his idea of racism disgusting. True there probably hasn't been a child abused for not reading his works, but there certainly has been many that have suffered because of his beliefs.

  47. When they end up in prison the inmates will give them what they deserve. :) And to those who are downgrading Christianity remember this. If God is real & He is then so is the devil. Lets give credit where it belongs. It was not Christianity or the bible that made these creeps do this to that baby. It was satan in them that made them do that. They will be punished!!

  48. No comment. Just logging in to edit my profile!

  49. Religion is supposed to make people behave better, but when it comes to child abuse, it become an excuse for brutality.

    The sort of thing commonplace in our grandfather's day would put parents in jail today. Religion makes people cling to the cruelty of the past.

  50. bhgs1986 & KillerB, You can tell me if I'm wrong here but I'm SURE the difference on this would be an ADULT to an ADULT, NOT a CHILD to an ADULT. Do you think even for a moment that the little boy could even begin to defend himself from either parent? Absolutely NOT. But you can bet when both are adults, they can try to defend themselves. This is a story of 2 adults attacking 1 child. Do you get that concept at all? If an "Adult" was attaching you, assuming your an adult, what would you do? Would you fight back or would you just stand there and take it until that person killed you? There is a VERY HUGE difference here. I really do not condone violence, but if it was legal and I really thought I could do it, I would beat them to near death then I'd let someone else give it a try. I would do it to defend or honor the child! I also believe in the death penalty for violent criminals. We have enough problems in this world without adding violence to it. Just my opinion!

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