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Thursday, Sept. 8, 2011 | 2:01 a.m.
Republicans, especially Tea Party adherents, never pass up the opportunity to invoke their “Democrats are turning America into a socialist state” mantra. It doesn’t matter if it’s about unemployment checks, food stamps or other federal assistance for the down and out. Just examine the achievements of Canada and Scandinavian countries to find successful “socialist”-like models. It works for them but may not work well for very large, diverse countries such as America.
Today, I see a greater chance of America becoming a feudal lord-and-serf system under a Tea Party-ruling class than I see America becoming a socialist state. Either extreme is not very appealing.
Let’s think about the state of socialism, “where everyone shares everything,” in America today. The vast majority of Americans at some point in their working life will become unemployed for an extended period.
So when your neighbor has no job and is receiving unemployment checks, food stamps or welfare assistance, he or she is participating in socialism. When you are receiving unemployment checks, food stamps or welfare assistance, then it’s your right to a benefit that you contributed toward. Is this socialism, really?
Just about everybody wants big government protection, but they really don’t want to pay for it themselves. Everyone’s time would be better spent working toward long-term solutions such as improving education and immigration standards to ameliorate the erosion of income and jobs, not who currently might be getting something for “free” that they aren’t.
The world is a highly competitive place. Wasting time pointing fingers at each other only helps the competition.
What do Democrats call it when the Federal Government owns you body and soul. They have Obamacare; they control the funding of over half of heathcare in the country, they own half the housing mortgages, they tell banks who to lend to, they run auto companies, they give food stamp to 50 million (1 out of 6) people.
Today, I see an America becoming a socialist feudal lord-and-serf system under a Liberal Democratic - Harvard Elite Ruling class from Martha Vinyards and the Hamptons
Congressman Andre "Hang'em high" Carson (Dim-Ind) would probably agree.
Congresswoman Maxine "To hell" Watters (Dim-Mars) would probably agree.
IBT James "Thanks Dad" Hoffa junior would probably agree.
Richard Rychtarik,
You (or someone) entiltled your comment "Finger-pointing is a waste of time," and yet, you proceeded to spend your energy doing just that.
Please explain why.
Regards,
Purgatory
""Democrats are turning America into a socialist state" mantra. It doesn't matter if it's about unemployment checks, food stamps or other federal assistance for the down and out. Just examine the achievements of Canada and Scandinavian countries to find successful "socialist"-like models. It works for them but may not work well for very large, diverse countries such as America."
Really? I wonder how Russia, China and India feel about your theory of USA being too large and diverse for socialism/marxism to work well. I suspect they would argue in the reverse.
Sir, you have a very different and strange view of the world and economics. I can understand Obama's thinking being a by-product of the 60's and the great welfare society, where big gov't owes/gives everything mentality.
Obama was elected by letting Americans believe he is the economic messiah and could solve all the USA's econ problems in 3 years. Yeah, right.
He was elected by duping Americans into believing him. Shame on him. If he is re-elected, shame on us.
Carmine A. DiFazio
The teaparty is coming on their medicare power chairs, get your SS check and don't pass go on the way to the Tbag beer hall putsch and rally.
The sole difference between the Parties of Harry Truman and Herbert Hoover is the manner in which they propose to spend the money they steal from you. Neither has your best interests and the best interests of our country at heart. The only answer is to remove them all from office by any means necesary and begin anew.
Many teabags are retired bluehairs who have a victim complex and can never be pleased.
They even whine about 'Big Government' while a doctor performs their Medicare-funded hip replacement surgery or cancer treatment.
Mr. Glover,
You are absolutely correct and our only hope is that many of our fellow citizens follow your advice. I am wont to say the only difference between the Parties is the Republicans prefer their foot on the brake and the Democrats prefer their foot on the accelerator as they drive us all over the cliff.
Regards,
Purgatory
Richard: I suppose you are correct that most everyone needs some sort of assistance at some point. I believe the problem is that too many think they are "deserving" of public funds.
You site the "success" of Canada with its socialist programs. There are many Canadians that would disagree with you. The implementation of socialism in Scandinavia is starting to show its problems. There are only a very few western European countries that are successful in their social programs. The reason is that they have very strict requirements to get on the "dole". They have very strict requirements for immigration. And these requirements are strictly enforced. An example of a minor difference is the fact that I had to pay to have my children learn the local language so they could go to school.
I have no problem helping people that need help. The problem seems to be that when you are handing out $5 bills, soon everyone wants one. If you hand them out long enough then people begin to think it is their "right" to receive free money. One only has to look to Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal and the UK to see this.
And as usual, mred and lastthroes bring nothing to the argument except name calling. By the way lastthroes, I am one of those retired "blue hairs" and my medical insurance is provided by the VA. Which branch of the service were you in and which wars did you participate it?
Finger pointing is necessary in American politics nowadays.
For years and years, the far right has gotten their way due to slight of hand and false promises.
The results are that the far right has essentially put this country in the toilet.
No more.
We're onto them.
And we're pointing out all the idiotic notions that only result in greed, selfishness and more and more benefits to a very select portion of American society; all while shoving the sacrifices off onto the majority of hard working Americans.
Bring on the 2012 elections.
The sustained attacks of American workers, all in order to only benefit the filthy rich, is officially going to end then.
The filthy rich and the corporations love to hide behind the Republicans? It's not gonna work anymore. Everything has been revealed clearly. Their efforts to starve the beast have awoken a sleeping giant.
The elections of 2012 will indeed be memorable. Time to fix this thing called America.
The people are America. Not corporations.
There was a time when people lived in towers surrounded by a walled community and moats. They had access to military might, access to food, and the best of health care. They had little need or wants being that they were well cared for by their underlings. These people lived inside their walls of protection and reported to a ruler who reigned from afar. Outside those walled communities lived the laborers and peasants. They worked for the lords, knights and vassals living inside, tilling the fields and living in squalor.
We still have gated communities where the wealthiest of us live; those who have access to private police forces, the best of education for their children and premium health care. People who've lost touch and contact with the real world. Today's laborers provide services to those living inside and can only dream of attaining that status. In case any of you missed it, tenth century feudalism is alive and well in the United States of America.
An economist recently compared our government to the governments of dictators like Gadaffi in Libya. He said dictators are falling for the same reason American is falling. I think he is on to something. He said both dictators and those in the American government lie, and he is right.
The Progressives lie and tell us that we can fix what's wrong by taxing the rich, spending more and adding to the debt. The Conservatives lie and tell us we can fix what's wrong by cutting spending and lowering taxes. Most Americans know that both sides are lying; know that it will take much more than what is being offered by either side to fix what is wrong and that the fixes we really need will be painful, long lasting and will have to be shared by all Americans.
I hope the realization that we are being lied to by both sides, that our problems are gigantic and not open to simple fixes, and that all of us will have to sacrafice for a long time to fix what is wrong is reflected in the 2012 election. In my opinion, all those in Congress that are up for re-election should lose their jobs and so should President Obama.
I don't think any one of them have leveled with us, told us how dire our situation is and ask us for the sacrafices we all should be willing to make.
And before the R and D supporters jump all over me, yes, I believe this is what former President Bush should have done after 9/11. He failed and he did not do it. President Obama isn't doing it either and fair or not, we cannot afford to let that continue after 8 years of former President Bush not doing it and almost 3 years of President Obama not doing it.
And no, I don't see any of the R contenders for President doing it either, and that is scary.
Michael
I hope you people watched last night's debate. It shouldn't matter which side of the aisle you sit on, but you should be wary. There are some who want to do away with government, period.
It's best expressed by Rick Perry. A man who has 25% of the people in his state uninsured, lacking health care. A man who has plenty of jobs, but neglects to say they pay next to nothing. A man who said the stimulus bill was a failure, but took the money to balance his budget. A man who denies science regardless of the evidence. A who fired firefighters to balance his budget in spite of advice from others and now watches as "Rome" burns.
That is the fate of this great nation if we allow the Tea Party to control the White House and Congress.
Dear Future,rusty57,Purgatory,CarmineD,jrstr,and other sycophant propagandists that support those miserable failure republicans.
Why are Y'all trying to fool us with your twisting of facts, conclusory lies delivered with certainty, McCarthyism and causation, rhetorical questions, highlighting out of context aberrations while ignoring truths/facts.
Are Y'all trying to mimic Fox Fraudcasting?
Why are you trying to fool us to vote against our own interests, our families, our neighbors, our co-workers, our community, our state, and "We the People's" country.
Why do you want a repeat performance of the miserable failure administration of bush/cheney?
Do you want the radical extremist pretend to be republicans "Nutters" to vastly increase the national debt, when and if, they achieve power again?
Do you want your despicable masters to create another almost financial market collapse that brought on this Great Recession?
Why have you let the totalitarian, corrupt, and incompetent GOP and the unleadership of the so-called republicans in Congress separate Y'all from the body of "We the People"?
Vernos,
I am wary... but it is because neither side tells the truth and asks us for the sacrafices we will all have to make to fix our economy. Perry doesn't ask us, Obama doesn't ask us, our Congress members don't ask us. Nobody tells the truth and asks for sacrafices. They all do the same thing former Persident Bush did after 9/11. Tell us that we can go about our business and not have to sacrafice. We cannot afford any more of this after 11 years of it. ENOUGH!!!
Michael
Vidi, liberal ranter extraordinaire! LOL
Glad you're expressing your views Vidi. I don't agree with you because you lack objectivity but your free to express/rant your thoughts none-the-less which is a good thing.
Michael,
I think we all are feeling the same way. I agree, enough is enough. The problem we all face is how to solve our problems. They've been festering for years and the proverbial "can" have been kicked far too many times. The system needs both parties to work and it's time we dumped the extremists. Those thinking Obama is establishing a socialist country are fools. We already had a mixed political system that is now controlled by corporations through the lobbyists.
This may sound off base, but from my point of view, Bin Laden succeeded in destabilizing America. We have people saying he was trying to destroy our democracy. That's another load of crap. Bin Laden played the "fear card" knowing about our paranoia. He got us to turn on one another and waste trillions of dollars funding endless warfare. I truly believe he intended to collapse our economy.
It's time we started thinking about being isolationists and concentrate our money and energy here at home and not abroad, which includes defunding companies that out source American jobs.
Vernos,
I have relatives that live in Austin Texas and they have good, high paying jobs with excellent benefits. My Grandson took 6 months to land a job here while staying with my wife and I. He just returned to Texas and he and his girlfriend both found jobs in 2 weeks.
I have not heard one person say the the fire problems in Texas are the result of too few firefighters. The problem is a persistent drought. In any state, when big fires happen, out of state firefighters are brought in.
All governors take stimulus money. It is suicide politically not to take it and they all know that.
Many states have many people without health insurance. The federal government has failed in that area and Obamacare still does not address rising health care costs (mine is $ 600.00 / mo.) and rising.
So I am worried, but it isn't 'just' about Perry.
Michael
"The American people shouldn't be forced to watch some politician they don't want to listen to when most of them would rather watch a football game," Boehner said.
Vernos,
I think you give Bin Laden too much credit. He was a terrorist who wanted to create terror in America. In that he succeeded, but only for a short period.
Our problem was that former President Bush and Congress should have told us about the expenses of what he planned to do to respond and protect us and ask for us to sacrafice to pay for what it cost. Sadly, that wasn't done.
It's still waiting to be done and Obama isn't doing it either.
Michael
I would refer all of you posters to the second paragraph of Future's post, the first one of the day on this subject. He states, and I quote, " Today I see an America becoming a socialist feudal lord-and-serf system under a Liberal Democratic Harvard-Elite Ruling class under Martha Vinyards (sic)and the Hamptons."
I suggest to Future and all the other right-wing nutjobs that chant the mantra's of Grover Norquist, Jim DeMint and Eric Cantor that I see " an America becoming a radical rightwing, anti-middle class lord-and-serf system under a RepublicanTeaParty-Big Oil-Big Business Corporate ruling class under Wall Street and "C" Street influences.
Vernos,
All these politicans are prone to make stupid remarks, and Boehner's remark was 'stupid'. So was Obama's, when he said '... the police acted stupidly...' among others.
My response is ... who cares... I really couldn't care less what they say because most of what they say is lies anyway. I only care about what they do.
Michael
"Goodbye to all That:The reflections of a GOP operative who left the cult"
"To those millions of Americans who have begun paying attention to politics and watched with exasperation the tragicomedy of the debt ceiling extension, it may have come as a shock that the Republican Party is full of lunatics. To be sure, the party, like any other party on earth, has always had it's share of crackpots, Like Robert K. Dornan and WilliamE. Dannemeyer. But the crackpot outliers of two decades ago have become the vital center today:Steve King, Michelle Bachman, Rick Perry,Newt Gingrich, Paul Broun, Patrick McHenry, Virginia Foxx, Louie Gohmert, and Allen West. The Republican congressional directory now reads like a casebook of lunacy"
Vidi, no one is going to believe you know all those people you just ridiculed and name-called. You're just not objective and readers know it. Others who comment hardly respond to your liberal rants anymore because you're doing such a good job defining what a liberal is; all hate and no solutions offered that matter most to Americans; to fix the economy, spur job growth and lower our debt trajectory. Hate and no solutions is a lonely road in politics.
BigDon: how is the whole Obama experiment oing for you?
Michael,
I'm from Texas as well and have a high school friend who's son is a firefighter in Jasper, Texas. There is no lack of firefighters however, the issue early was a lack of a coordinated trailer transport to remove cattle and horses ahead of the fire's path. The fire is now 30% contained. Quite a few homes in and around Bastrop county have no fire damage but lack electricity due to the fire.
mikegino@ It's going one hell of a lot better than the eight years of the George Bush disaster.
BigDon: I didn't vote for Bush or support his wars. I sure as hell don't support the Grifter in Chief either. I wonder where he'll vacation tomorrow after his big campaign event (speech non-speech) tonight?
EH122 (Eric Hutson),
Eric,
Far too many R and D supporters just grab what they hear that makes the opposite party or person look bad and run with it. No verification, no counter check, no nothing. In Vernos case, I suspect he heard somewhere that the Texas fires were made worse by a lack of firefighters. Presto! An immediate link to Perry letting go of some firefighters. In Vernos defense, it happens just as often with R supporters.
That said, we'd all be alot better off if we'd put things in the proper order: Be skeptical of what you find out, investigate and then decide. Instead, far too many of us decide what we want to believe, throw out anything that doesn't support our belief and embrace anything that confirms our belief without being skeptical at all.
Michael
I thank God for president Obama, everyday when I get up around noon.
NV Citizens, please note the post at 12:01 P.M. by RefNV in response to my post at 10:49 a.m. of a paragraph from the article listed in quotes.
RefNV just parrots the radical extremist, pretend to be republicans lying talking points on a daily basis.
RefNv tries to detract the NV citizens away from truth and facts, by repeating misinformation over and over, trying to to fool, convince, or brainwash the NV citizens.
Form your own opinions based in the cold hard facts.
As I watched the Republican Presidential Candidate Debate last night I was struck by the lack of what I would consider a viable candidate onstage. While I am by no means satisfied with the job Obama is doing, I do think he is doing as well as he can in the face of the constant obstructionism from the Republican opposition whose stated goal is to not help America recover from the financial disaster fostered by the Bush policies of the last two years of his term, but to bring Obama down no matter what the cost to the country (as stated by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell).
The candidates included Newt Gingrich, who carries enough baggage to give a Red Cap a hernia; Rick Perry, another Texas clown pretending to be a cowboy, all hat and no cattle; Mitt Romney, a classic flip-flopper and a Morman to boot; Michelle Bachmann, who is like Sara Palin without the brains; Rick Santorum who is just bat-sh#tcrazy stupid; Ron Paul who lives in the thirties; Herman Cain who is in WAY, WAY over his head, and who ever heard of former Ambassador to China Huntsman????? Not a winner in the bunch.
BigDon might be right on one point: Obama the Grifter probably is doing the best job that he can (between rounds of golf).
Romney and Huntsman were sounding like viable traditional Republicans until they started kneeling to the radical extremist, pretend to be republican "Nutters" and the Tea Party anarchists that will slash and burn anybody and everybody--including any of their own that does not accept their lunatic dogma.
Vidi,
I stand by my conclusion that liberals at this point are an "all hate and no solution" group. Cut the name-calling, demagoguery, blame-throwing & ridicule and start debating the actual issues and recommend solutions to our deficit, economy and jobs then I'll change my conclusion. I know road blocks when I see it and liberals are blocking solutions that will resolve these three issues.
How many times will Obama purse his lips tonight? I say the over/under will be 35.
http://kerfuffles.blogspot.com/2011/07/b...
Refnv: as to your 3:49 post; substitute "Tea Party radicals" for "liberals" and you have a true statement!!!!!
RefNv, You are doing the same thing as the radical extremist, pretend to be republicans are doing, turning everything around 180 degrees and blaming, blaming, President Obama and the Democrats for exactly what that they are truly guilty of. It is the fiscally irresponsible "Nutter" republicans that greatly increased the national debt.
Source:www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html
The irresponsible, miserable failure administration of bush/cheney and their narrow minded ideology of totally unregulated capitalism that gave the green light to unbelievable criminal greed by those in the housing and financial sector of our economy that let the "Housing Fraud Bubble " grow. When it burst, causing the almost financial market collapse and then the Great Recession, the after effects will be with us for decades.
Source:http://www.lasvegassun.com/2011/jul/17/republicans-push-country-toward precipice.
Since President Obama became president on 1-20-2009, the radical extremist, pretend to be republicans have voted against all stimulus bills, all jobs bills, and against unemployment benefit extensions for those Americans that have lost their jobs because of what the so-called republicans and their corrupt corporate cronies did.They even demonized the unemployed by calling them lazy, even when there were 5 people looking for every one job.
Since these obstructionist/extortionist republicans became the majority in the House of Representative, they have been using our "House of Representatives" as their own private party enclave to bash the President and programs that would be beneficial to all Americans. They think their slash and burn tactics will help them regain power in 2013. The victims of their obstructionism/extortionism has been the American middle and working class.
They do not care how many Americans get harmed, their primary interest is the "party" and "power"
The radical extremist republicans and their minions have demonized just about every public and private groups in America with their irresponsible demonizing rhetoric.
That hate rhetoric is responsible for the death of over 550 American that have inspired the nutcases to come out from under their rocks and kill our fellow Americans.
McVeigh and Nichols were inspired and bombed the Murrah Federal building in Oklahoma City that cost the lives of 168 men, women, and children. Many police offers have been killed by those hate inspired nutcases--Pittsburgh, PA, Arkansas, CA, Tennessee, and many other places. Other professions have also suffered their lives because of this demonizing hate rhetoric.
"The American people shouldn't be forced to watch some politician they don't want to listen to when most of them would rather watch a football game," Boehner said.
Boehner was speaking of a rebuttal speech. Pretty clever. And other than kissing the pinky rings and continuing down the green jobs path the speech wasn't worth rebutting.
BTW, is "FBI Agent" now a "green job" since they raided the solar company looking for the lost stimulus?
I point fingers at Obama.
He deserves it.
Vidi,
As I've mentioned, I'm glad you're expressing your views here even though I don't believe there's an ounce of objectivity in any of your points. We can debate job, deficit and economic growth strategies at that time when you feel your liberal ranting is out of your system.
Republicans speaking out against radical extremist, pretend to be republican "Nutters"
Republican Conservative Professor, Stephen Bainbridge stated,"These days, the most prominent of the so-called conservatives are increasingly fit to be cast for the next "Dumb and Dumber sequel. They're dumb and crazy."
www.professorbainbridge.com,
Former National Review Editor, David Klinghoffer stated, "The right is losing it's way. Now, under the influence of the "potty mouthed" Andrew Breitbart, the right is more concerned with trashing the left than in defending the best values of civilization. Now observe the rule of the crazy cons."
Erick Erickson to GOP republicans, "Stop lying and admit you are the party of no."
Republican Senator Chuck Hagel stated, "I do not see them (republicans) presenting any alternatives, any new options, or any new thinking. It's just a no, no, no.
Just curious Mr. Shillmoeler wear did you find out about Obama giving a 500 billion dollar loan to solynda?
Has anyone checked the odds yet?
The odds showing the GOP/Tea Party will do nothing but continue to obstruct.
I'll bet they are hoping to keep unemployment high hoping to win the White House and Congress. Therefore they'll do little for the next year attempting to help the economy. Any takers?
You are wrong as far as Solyndra I saw it on local stations CBS, NBC and ABC. They are being investigated by the FBI for scaming the government out of $535 million. Of course you unstable people on the right will blame Obama as if he handed them the cash. I guess you don't know about Congress who handles budgets and cash flow, but what does reality matter to you Fox viewers.
Thanks for the link Joseph shillmoeler but that was 500 million not billion. Dollars. I do agree with you that money was not well spent. Any ideas that we could compete with China's heavily subsidized solar energy. Companies that enjoy a 5 dollar a day wage rate?
Those who know negative history should really do some critical thinking by analyzing Schillmoeller's post at 6:03 P.M.
What is he really advocating? We had an 8 year Reich under bush/cheney that greatly increased federal spending and the national debt,totally deregulated capitalism that resulted in the Great Recession that will take decades to recover. and Schillmoeller wants to restart that over on 1-20-2013.
Vidi,
We will have a new President 1-20-2013. Obama is too far left for this center-right country.
More republicans speaking out against the radical extremist, pretend to be republicans and the T-potty Crazies.
Republican Senator Bennett slammed the GOP for letting Tea Parties and Fox News lead it by the nose. "I find plenty of slogans, but not very many ideas."
Republican Representative Bob Inglis stated, "When we start just delivering rhetoric and misinformation, we're failing the the conservative movement, we're failing the country."
American Enterprise Institute's, Norm Ornstein stated,, "GOP leaders are becoming the Bart Simpson's of Congress, gleeful at smarmy and adolescent tactics but unwilling to get serious.
Hal Gordon, speechwriter for Reagan and Colin Powell stated, "Call them banana republicans if you like or republicans gone bananas."
Vidi, and your point is?
Anyway, fingerpointing is the new fad in politics. Its never our fault. Blame this party for everything. Blame someone else. Someone else is to blame.
This is all brought about because this nation is greatly divided. The sad thing is too, is that every single politican LOVES that the country is divided. That makes it easier for them to brainwash and easier for lobbists to get the job done their way not the American way.
People also need to stop blaming Bush. Yes, he had a hand at this because he was president. NOW we have a new president that said he would be able to do something that will help Americans.
Someone point me in the direction of America getting better. Because I surely cannot see America getting better. Unemployment is stable at 9.1%. No jobs are being created at the rate they need to be. More and more Americans are out of work. People are forced to choose between food or bills. That is just plain sad.
Where has our great nation gone?
Gogo Congress is owned by big business how could we get Congress to act on your recommendations?
Schillmoeller your post are so preposterously ridiculous that they are funny.
Everybody knows what your resume is, and those who do not know, know to just Google your name.
You are not fooling anyone, not convincing anyone, and most certainly not brainwashing anyone.
You have become a joke!
RefNV.......
This is a center-left country.
The republican party is the minority party and
will always be the minority party.
You will find that out again, in 2012 when
President Obama is re-elected.
LIVE BETTER/WORK UNION.
teamster, this is for your own good. Don't predict something like an election.
It will only break your heart more if you do when Obama loses.
By the way, a center left country. Really?
racer.....
You weren't around here, three years ago, when
I predicted Obama would win when nobody even new
who he was.
gogo remembers, he was here and predicted and
voted for John MCCain and Sarah Palin.
gogo was wrong.
gogo was also wrong when he predicted and voted
for Sharron Angle.
And yes, this is a center-left country.
There are more registered Democrats in Nevada
and in the U.S. than republicans.
Why wouldn't there be?
republicans are too extreme.
Unions forever.
gogo......
JIMMY HOFFA IS THE MAN.
Jimmy Hoffa supports American workers.
Without him and his dad, there would be no
middle class in this country.
His dad help build Las Vegas.
No average worker will ever have a real
retirement without a labor union.
Until republicans support labor unions, they
will keep getting voted out of office.
Republican's anti-labor union stance is why
Hoffa said what he said.
TEAMSTERS FOREVER.
Why call it with "old fashion" names such as socialism which does not even give full credit for it. Besides socialism is not anywhere near to be called "old fashion" phrase. It is pure democratism today. Phrases socialisma and capitalisma doesn't fit today if you are talking democracy today. (democracy = socialism + capitalism)
"TEAMSTERS FOREVER."
Losing influence. Only 7 percent of USA businesses are union. Union couldn't even recall 6 Republican legislators in Wisconsin. Dying breed, like TEA members.
From a former AFSCME Chief Steward.
Carmine A. DiFazio
We're lurching towards european socialism and we're supposed to put politics aside? What if we prefer capitalism?
Hmmmmm....I see the 'real' Michael Casler is coming out....
He has jumped on the bandwagon of "rebel Rick" Perry but won't come out as yet and say it. No surprise there....
Of course, he attempted to give "rebel" Rick a free pass with one of his latest posts...
A recent poll in Texas shows President Obama leading "rebel Rick" by a couple percentage points. What's so unusual about that?
First of all, a Democrat presidential candidate has not carried Texas since 1976.
Also, "rebel Rick" WAS the most popular governor in the history of Texas, but now the good citizens of Texas are starting to see "I'll take Texas out of the Union Rick" doesn't really walk on water.
Also, his "rain prayers" don't produce results, much to the disappointment of his extreme right-wing religious base...
Texas continues to burn and burn with much of the problem coming from the fact that "rebel Rick" got rid of far too many fire fighters....
Also, Texas has many of its citizens going with out health care, and many more work at low paying jobs, unable to keep their head above water.
Yet "rebel Rick" likes to say that he knows how to create good paying jobs and how to run a government...
Yes, Michael quickly gives "rebel Rick" a free pass when it comes to the governor ranting and ranting against the federal government, but Michael says little about the fact that the governor gladly accepted federal stimulus money and used it to balance his budget...
Oop's I'm sorry. Michael gave "I hate Social Security Rick" a free pass by saying for a governor to not accept nor spend the federal stimulus money is to commit "political suicide."
In other words, Michael Casler and "rebel Rick" have a lot in common. First of all, they both say one thing and then do another...
Is that a viable definition of hypocrisy? Sure appears that way to me....
Unfortunately El Lobo you're not believable. I've lived in Texas for over 20 years and currently I'm on temporary assignment here in Nevada. Governor Perry easily out polls Obama in our local polling. Texas is a conservative state and Texans always back fellow Texans. He has fairly strong Latino backing as well which is important in Texas.
Have to say, Gov Perry is right on when he talks about SS as ponzi scheme. But having said that, he needs to tune it down abit if he wants to be a viable presidential candidate. Tho he's telling the truth about SS, people, especially now, don't want to hear it said so brutally frank.
Carmine A. DiFazio
Obama Leads Perry in Texas
"This new poll from PPP has President Barack Obama ahead of Texas Gov. Rick Perry in a hypothetical general election 47% to 45%.
Considering how red Texas is (McCain won it by 11% in 2008, Bush won it by 23% in 2004) and how comparatively well the other Republicans did in the poll (more on that below) this poll definitely pours some cold water on the "Perry is going to run for President" rumors. If he can't even beat the President in his own (very Republican) state how can he expect to compete nationally? "
http://www.thepresidentialcandidates.us/...
Obama Leads Perry in Texas
"This new poll from PPP has President Barack Obama ahead of Texas Gov. Rick Perry in a hypothetical general election 47% to 45%.
Considering how red Texas is (McCain won it by 11% in 2008, Bush won it by 23% in 2004) and how comparatively well the other Republicans did in the poll (more on that below) this poll definitely pours some cold water on the "Perry is going to run for President" rumors. If he can't even beat the President in his own (very Republican) state how can he expect to compete nationally? "
http://www.thepresidentialcandidates.us/...
"rebel Rick" has "foot & mouth disease." Give him enough rope & he will hang himself Texas style...
Yep, he's a real die hard conservative who practices what he preaches......
He wants the government to get out of the lives of the citizens of Texas, but he's not hesitant to accept & spend federal stimulus money...
In other words, "do as I say & not as I do..."
El Lobo,
Nice try. I've seen your posts and know you generate info from liberal polling. The poll you referenced was over 3 months ago prior to Perry announcing his candidacy. Here is a poll after his announcement showing Perry leading Obama 44% to 41%. In North Carolina, a key battleground state, Perry leads 45% to 42% for Obama. Obama is so far left he won't even be considered. Keep in mind, Obama lost Texas in 2008 by 11% to McCain and Obama has been anti-Texas since then. Obama doesn't have a chance in Texas.
Rasmussen
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...
North Carolina
http://www.conservatives4congress.com/20...
This is a nice play game, don't say a word but play like an idiot. Too bullish words for thin-skinned but what you get for nothing. Someone has the fewer to win so let's play.
Usually the sitting President has a 10 to 15 point lead at this time against his opponents mainly because his opponents have no or little name recognition and the President usually has goodwill at this in point in time with the public.
Obama is either tied or behind at this point.
He is in big do-do.
Historically, Presidents with Obama's number at this point in time lose.
But if you are a kool-aid drinker please please ignore the above and continue your marry way.
Got to love how Hutson complains about supplying partisan links, and then proceeds to link to neoconservative websites to prove his point.
Baggers are an absolute riot. The intellectual dishonesty and Freudian projection is simply off the charts with these clowns.
Like RefNV complaining on every story about 'liberal name calling', usually right behind a post filled with name-calling rants from Joe the bagger, rusty or the all-time internet tough guy mikegino.
Here is how JahReb post about 90% of the time:
"You are stupid. I am smart. I don't like your proof. You are dumb."
He hard ever offers any proof or evidence.
In fact, he hardly ever offers any arugment for something.
He is just personally attacking others nearly all the time.
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
I think the "rebel Rick" lovers out there are to be commended for "standing by their man".....
Sorry about that Tammy... I couldn't resist... Ha! Ha! Ha!
The point I intended to make was simply this....
NOT SINCE 1976 has a Democrat presidential candidate carried Texas. For the last 30+ years most people in Texas didn't even know that they could vote for a Democrat in that state....
The "clueless one" carried Texas in 2004 by 23% points & McBush, oop's I mean McCain, carried the Lone Star State by 11% points in 2008.
Of course, McCain got his butt kicked in most other places but that's another story for another post...
Yet Obama is holding his own in Texas against that guy who can literally "walk on water" and cause it to rain by crying and praying at the same time...
I happen to find that very interesting....
Liberals will never succumb to the mindset of anyone except their own believes. Liberals actually think that anyone who goes against their principals of sucking off others in order to receive more freebies or where they can become a government worker where they don't have to anything to get a paycheck is a career choice that best suits America is their enemy. The primary reason for their beliefs is that they know their gene pool is just too lazy a real job where they could be held accountable for their actions; therefore, they need their programs to exist. The funny part is that anyone with an ounce of common sense can just sit back at think about the liberal agenda and their beliefs; it should make any sane person sick to their stomach.
Who in their right mind would want to live a life of a liberal not knowing how to pay for something without the funds being given to them or actually having to produce something meaningful without sucking off the taxpayers. Of course they're going to fight to keep their programs and their sickening lazy pathetic lifestyle choices around, they're doomed if they can't keep Obama and clan around.
Not sure what Tim Wiggin was trying to say with his long & ranting post...
I've NEVER been very good at reading "pig Latin."
Wiggen is wigged out by all of the great
Democrats who post here.
Why do these wigged out republicans keep comming
back for more?
"Why do these wigged out republicans keep comming
back for more?"
Kind of like I would be an AFSCME Chief Steward and support Ronald Reagan on his stand against the Air Traffic Controllers. Can't pigeon whole Americans into one ideology. Americans are much too complex for that type of simplistic and childish thinking, unless of course they are paid to be so, and most like me, are not.
Carmine A. DiFazio
lol, I come back to read what you liberals are saying; it humors me to read just how far liberals will go to continue with their no good for nothing lazy pathetic lives. When liberals write or speak something, it's usually a lie or simply skewing the facts in some fashion or another all in attempt to get something for nothing or it's just another attempt to suck money off of somebody else where they can get something for them of their offspring enabling them to get another free ride at the expense of others.
When people with money are a liberal, they'll skew the facts to feed their mindless minions. A successful liberal is one that doesn't want the middle class; they want the rich or poor. They want a two society system, rich and poor. They go as far to promise one another to keep the poor out of their neighborhood and create class warfare. It's a system that minions will never understand, that's why they're followers not leaders. They're fed just enough to keep them afloat, but never enough where they can afford a better life. And the funny part of this, the mindless minions like it.
Teamster that would be like, your name says it all. A truck driver of 20 years ago was something to be proud of doing. In today's world, a truck driver has the mind where each load moved, it's like Pee Wee's new adventure, what do I do now? I deal with union drivers daily and sadly to say, the teamster union has desecrated themselves into the worst union known to our industry. Frankly, teamsters of today surely aren't the teamsters of yesterday and we pay them wages to screw up.
And Tim Wiggin and his use of "pig Latin" continues....
NO surprise there...
He did manage, however, to establish a record for the longest disjointed sentence ever posted on this board when he said:
"When liberals write or speak something, it's usually a lie or simply skewing the facts in some fashion or another all in attempt to get something for nothing or it's just another attempt to suck money off of somebody else where they can get something for them of their offspring enabling them to get another free ride at the expense of others."