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Las Vegas Mayor Carolyn Goodman greets President Barack Obama at McCarran International Airport on Monday, Oct. 24, 2011.
Wednesday, Oct. 26, 2011 | 2 a.m.
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- Obama uses Vegas visit to push new mortgage assistance plan, promote jobs plan (10-24-2011)
- Obama touts jobs bill while in Las Vegas for day of fundraising, campaigning (10-24-2011)
- Obama offers mortgage relief on swing through Las Vegas (10-24-2011)
- Obama will be tapping wallets while in Las Vegas today (10-24-2011)
- NRSC welcomes Obama to Las Vegas with brutal web video featuring Reid, Berkley, too (10-23-2011)
I would love to know what went through President Barack Obama’s mind as he came to the door of Air Force One on Monday morning and looked down at the McCarran International Airport tarmac.
Standing below him was not the usual receiving line of Democratic politicians but a solitary elected official — and one who had abandoned the Democratic Party. As if to add insult to absence, the lone woman’s husband had mercilessly excoriated the president for a couple of years, demanding an apology for remarks he had made about Las Vegas and snubbing him on previous trips.
Somehow, Obama kept his smile as he walked down from the plane and greeted Mayor Carolyn Goodman, who along with her husband, former Mayor Oscar Goodman, had made a big show of switching from Democrat to independent when His Honor was making a big show about pretending to think about running for governor last year. Goodman II, clutching her cellphone in one hand, bent the president’s ear for several minutes — there was no one else for him to talk to — handing the commander in chief a “good luck” chip and asking him to say nice things about Las Vegas.
How the mighty have fallen.
This is what it has come to for the man who created a Nevada wave in 2008, winning the state by 12 percentage points, pulling Democrats up and down the ticket to victory and auguring Harry Reid’s stunning re-election two years later. Obama previously had been greeted by Democrats high and low at the airport, many of them only too eager to shake hands with the president and perhaps ride in the motorcade. Now, the most powerful man in the world is treated like he is arriving on a quarantined plane, a political leper shunned by those who once embraced him — nay, by those he gave political life to just a few years ago.
Obama arrived in a devastated state to present a housing plan that probably won’t help many of those underwater on their homes in the worst economy in the country, only to be greeted by a mayor whose husband he surely despises and who hectored him (once again) about his much-overblown “don’t come to Vegas” remarks.
Other than that, Mr. President, how was the trip?
(Well, there was the money he raised at the Bellagio, the house that Steve Wynn built. You know, Mr. Wynn, don’t you, Mr. President? He’s the fellow all over Fox News and virally on the Internet saying you have been more destructive to business in America than that comet was to the dinosaurs way back when.)
Obama’s Nevada problem is a microcosm of his national problem. Here’s a place that was full of hope for change in 2009 but now is mired in hopelessness, and not much has changed for a couple of years. The president who won here by 12 is now underwater almost as much as some of those mortgages he wants to fix — Public Opinion Strategies found his job approval at 45/52 a year ago and 42/55 a few weeks ago.
Hence, the lack of smiles and handshakes on the tarmac. Oh, I’m sure Obama arrived at the Bellagio to be greeted by Democratic elected officials brimming with excuses. The traffic was a nightmare. The security folks told us we had to be at the Bellagio early. I didn’t know what time the plane landed.
Of course, running away from the president — or not having a photo taken with him in the next year — is a fool’s, or perhaps coward’s, errand for these Democrats. They will still get Velcroed to Obama if his numbers remain low — whether they are literally with him or photoshopped.
And the Republicans, here and nationally, will continue to remind people that the president once told people not to come to Vegas, thereby destroying the economy — even though that is a canard turned into hyperbole. In 2009, the president said companies that received federal bailouts “can’t go take that trip to Las Vegas or go down to the Super Bowl on the taxpayers’ dime.”
Totally reasonable statement, but latched onto by then-Mayor Publicity-At-Any-Cost and others. And, the president turned tone-deaf a year later and essentially doubled down on the remarks by telling people not to “blow a bunch of cash” here.
Once, Mr. President, despite what Jacqueline Susann said, is enough.
By the way, even though Democrats were scarce Monday, the other Goodman actually was on hand to welcome the president, just not in the flesh. Oscar Goodman made an appearance in a National Republican Senatorial Committee video, a clip of him from a couple of years back demanding the president apologize for remarks.
What’s said about Vegas is remembered in Vegas, even if it is, as another president might have put it, misremembered.
Enjoyed the article, Jon. It sure does seem President Obama does have political problems here in Las Vegas.
It's still too early.
And it's being revealed more and more that the Republican Party is losing the message with the people out here. (People can disagree with me, but I say they never had it to begin with.)
There's a big difference that just came to light in Las Vegas though.
President Obama unveiled his new initiative trying to help the people out here, "We Can't Wait."
On the other side of the aisle at just about the same time, Perry unveiled the new Republican Party mantra of indifference and total neglect, "I Don't Care."
The Party Of No has been laid to rest.
They are now the Party Of I Don't Care.
On his worst day Obama has more to offer this country than any of the insane Republicons,...and even the Republicons know it.
Yes, noticeably absent is Obozo's main puppeteer who is now all snug and cozy in another six-year term. It's amazing that a person that can become POTUS is so illiterate politically. That he would come here and offer up some "cake" on a hollow, meaningless plan for those with mortgage problems here makes one wonder if the petty tyrant he helped get re-elected didn't set him up.
It's unfortunate that the President has plans to help people out with their mortgage, the problem is he didn't ask any of the banks if they'll go along with it.
I hope Jimmy Carter has a spare hammer in his Habitat for Humanity program as Obama will need a place to go in 14 months.
Great article... oh the irony.
Chunky says:
Obama, like most other politicians on either side of the aisle over promise and under deliver.
That's what Chunky thinks!
President Obama dropping by to hawk yet another one of his bs bailout plans that do nothing to help the people of Las Vegas is pretty much par for the course.......get used to it......
Jon Ralston has been writing some good truthful articles lately!
Looks like Ralston and Wynn are the only one you can get the truth from in Las Vegas.
Brian Sandoval has not delivered. All he has done was to make gender discrimination legal. He has no plan for jobs and could care less about Southern Nevada. Our govenor is a failure.
As an entreprenuer I can tell you that there is no job security on a funded project, for when the project ends and the funds dry up...you are out of work. Investments must spur revenue, Obama has no programs like this in place, nor is he proposing them for two good reasons, one is the Govt does not do biz like this and two Obama has no idea to create a job. Jobs bill/stimulous 2 is same as stim one, I dont expect to see our local or national economy improve before election day so expect lots of class warfare and blaming others, as this road show and Jobs bill are planned to do.
You have to be a total idiot to support a President who told people twice not to come to Vegas while at the same time your income is dependent on people coming to Vegas.
Regardless of what some of our local democratic politicians think of our president, they should have been there along with our independent mayor to greet him. I'm confident that most of us realize that you can't blame the president for everything. There are some things that could have been done differently to save many people who are having mortgage problems,.. Don't spend money that you don't have, try looking ahead and saving when the times are good and Point the finger at your local politicians for creating a culture where education, stability and common sense has been frowned on for many generations.
Nevada is really an embarrassment to the nation. George W. Bush dragged this country into chaos by ignoring warnings about an imminent attack on our country, going to war against a country for familial revenge (or whatever the motive was there), and bankrupting the nation with tax cuts and bailouts for irresponsible banks and investment firms. And yet no one would have dared snub the man when he or his cronies came to the state. Why? Because it's a simple matter of protocol and old fashioned manners.
Everyone who bashes the President has more or less the same things to say: bailouts, bad economy, lack of jobs, etc. But when the President said that he thought it was appalling that a bank who had received billions in tax payer funds to keep from "going under" was going to Vegas for a lavish weekend for its executives every wahoo in this state went nuts. To this day you all still say that he told people not to come to Vegas. That is a complete and total falsehood. He said that BANKS who had taken GOVERNMENT funds should not be spending that money in Vegas. Then he dared to say that a struggling family shouldn't be spending the children's college fund in Vegas.
Have the people of this state become so arrogant and depraved that they would stand before the nation and say "Yes, we think struggling families should blow their nest egg in Vegas! - Yes, we are so desperate for cash that we don't care where it comes from! If Wellsfargo wants to take my taxpayer dollars and give it to their executives to spend in Vegas, why not?!"
The trouble with Nevada, and Las Vegas in particular, is that for a long time it has believed that it is some rare and exotic species that is so very different from the rest of the world that all rules and laws simply do not apply. The result is a state with some of the worst and most embarrassing statistics in the world.
So Nevada is so special and unique that it will turn it's back on the President? Nevada doesn't need help from anyone in any form? Good luck. Nevadans need look no further than the mirror to see who is responsible for the shape that the state is in. All anyone has to do is read the comments that are posted on this site day after day to see that.
What does Obama owe Vegas? Isn't this the state the abhors the federal government (despite its reliance on it)? Where's that can-do attitude? Would you give a hand to someone who was trying to bite it off? Steve Wynn has benefitted from the monetary policy and stability the US has offered for the last 40 years. Who will he run and cry to when the authoritarian govt of China, with whom he has grown so chummy, takes away his operation in their territory? It would be ironic if he suddenly asked the US govt for help. Steve: you don't produce anything: nothing physical, no IP, nothing. You're no different from a hedge fund manager and you know it. Get over yourself.
Sporty, you are right. We, us Nevadans, installed the two biggest losers to ever run for office. Obama and Reid are purposefully dismantling our way of life.
They are running a shell game that would make Madoff blush and we are the patsy's. Keep making excuses for Obama and you will get exactly what you deserve. Another visit from the Shill in Chief.
Excellent post, sporty. I would also like to add that I was at the Bellagio luncheon, and the local Dems were lining up to take photos and to shake the President's hand. Should there have been more local dignitaries on the tarmac to greet our president? Probably---but you know what? It's not the local politicians who are going to get Pres. Obama re-elected--it's going to be those of us at the grassroots level who will accomplish that, and I can guarantee you that ANY of us would have been happy to make the trip out to the airport. And to "texexnv" who made the snarky comments referring to Sen. Reid being absent, he was in Washington, with his wife who is undergoing treatment for breast cancer.
President Obama is to the nation what Harry Reid was to Nevada in last years Nevada senate race.
The only question remaining for next yrs. presidential election is...
Will the republicans put their own Sharron Angle [a.k.a. Ron Paul up against him?
Well Jon,
Maybe he should have just joined the Occupy Las Vegas group. His Jobs bill is not popular, substituting temporary public service jobs and making Social security cuts to pay for them, and his housing idea sets the stage for a new round or repossessions and abandoned property. As a traditional Democrat I am dismayed by this display of ill conceived ideas presented in an effort to "do something". Doing nothing may make more sense.
Mr. President. I extend both middle fingers to you in salute.
I'm really pushing for Obama to get a 2nd term. That would be absolutely hilarious.
Obama will be easily re-elected, largely because the Republican's have reorganized themselves into a party of bible-thumping, anti-science, anti-logic, anti-facts, anti-reason, anti-lower and anti-middle class, anti-anyone-except-rich-white-male party. And yeah it sucks how unkind American history has been to rich white men. LOL. To win the Republican nomination you have to either be a hillbilly or pretend to be one -- and that is NOT something 90% of voters want in a candidate. The exaggerated clout of a small movement (Teaparty) has forced the Repubs down a path that destines them to nominate a candidate for national office that has no chance in hell of winning a general election. Other civilized countries laugh at us -- look no further than Fox News for why. Is Obama a great president? No. But he absolutely has done way more for this country than that idiot Bush II (who should be in jail) or any of the Repub candidates. Romney has more holes than swiss cheese and Perry is Bush III (do we want 4-8 more years of the policies that ruined the world?). People need to start thinking independently vs just repeating what Rush Limbaugh tells them to say.
Las Vegas & Clark County Nevada are a microcosm of everything that is wrong with the Obama Administration & Congress.
Obama spends trillions in borrowed money to buy 2012 Presidential votes while consistently funding useless new programs that expand oppressive government and financially benefit his crony fraudster partners and not the 99%.
No one should have met Obama at the airport.
Notice comments in here by obvious Obama trolls? Are they getting federal funds to comment pro administration?
At least we aren't as rude to paying guests. Oh, wait, the Feds hold 90% of Nevada's land, is the state's 2nd largest employer after local governments and the MGM, and can affect Nevada's growth, so they are, in that sense, important to our future after all.
Why would anyone object to Mr. Obama? That he is not spending taxpayer money fast enough, or not "regulating" enough companies out of business? The only Liberals who gripe about Obama are the ones who say he is not far enough Left and that he doesn't confiscate enough property. The "Democrats" in this country are anything but Democrats. They are like no Democrats my parents and grandparents ever were. They were Scoop Jackson, Warren Magnusen Democrats. These are full-on European-style Marxian Socialists wrapped in a liberal coat of Stalinism. But even so, all of them will be voting for Obama come next November.
I hope the people of Nevada have learned from the disaster of the last four years of Democrat "rule", and the decades before when they paved the way for the Great Sub-Prime Meltdown. RINO Republicans like McCain and Romney are not much better, but preferable to these criminals by far. Fool me once, shame on you...
I hate to say it, but these guys in Vegas kind of deserved what they got. Not going to recover soon.
At least the old "organized bunch" knew enough to be patriotic during WWII, with many patriotic efforts and stories in the varied black and white films of the time.
A vote for O-Stupid is a vote for the globalists, and not for America. They want to dismantle it.
Foreign money ain't going to cut it. I suggest increased patriotism and good will toward the American people to save Vegas. If you even like Americans. I guess I don't really know. In other words, get a brain.
We want to like you, and come there, but you Vegas guys vote for devious, mean globalists, like O-Stupid.
You may pick up a lot of new customers as people dig in and actually get ahead, during this depression, that never could afford before. Others are planning now, what they would do with additional money. Sometimes people really do increase their wealth during depressions... Not just the bankers. (Some of them can look forward to a jump out the window, eventually).
I can envision a hell of an advertising campaign. But keep away from O-Stupid (and not just in the daylight).
Chief, you left out anti-progressive, anti-collectivist, ant-multiculturalist, anti-social justice, anti-wealth re-distribution, anti-class war, anti-representation without taxation, anti-demographic pandering, anti-bumper sticker shallow leadership, and.... anti-telepropmpter dependant empty suits!
It was illogical to elect a man with absolutely no experience to be President. It would be illogical
to reward absolute failure with a second term.
I would like to see the Las Vegas Convention
Authority's comments on whether or not Obama's
twice cited Vegas digs didn't cause us to lose
needed convention business. Seems to me that
Oscar Goodman and others stated this very thing
a couple of years ago.
It's not surprising in the least that a city who is no lover of the President of the United States would take a quote and make it into something that was completely taken out of context. The President was correct in telling peoople not to spend their kids college money or their hard earned paychecks in Las Vegas. What's so false about that statement?? This country was beginning it's spiral into the abyss years ago yet because of your blind hatred towards this president you shut off your minds to rational thinking. I'm a new resident to your fine city and I contribute to your economy. But, I do know that I'm on a limited budget and do adhere to the president's advice even though I do trust my own mind to think. I think every single one of you should too.
And to Jon Ralston: Maybe you should have escorted Mrs. Goodman to the plane to greet the president since it bothers you so much. I seriously doubt the president cares if anybody is there to greet him. He cares more about his constituents than pomp and circumstance.
It's so unfortunate that Nevadans are armchair quarterbacks instead of trying to aid in turning this country around. Shameful really.
OK, so he's in trouble. Here's the stone cold truth: There's not one Republican candidate out there who stands even the slightest chance of winning the presidency in 2012. The right-wing nuts have taken over the GOP...
smokyidivot, not saying dems are very good either but repub pres candidates have zero chance of winning election largely because their nomination process runs thru right-wing wacko town. all the other stuff you said ... only reply is GOOD PARROT!
PS: it amazes me how Republicans have totally forgotten about the Bush years -- as if they have no relevance to what's going on today. Bush and his cronies RUINED this country and yet it's as if we went straight from Clinton to Obama in the minds of many. And where is Bush these days? Aside from front row seats at the world series -- apparently just on the sofa. He couldn't care less about what's beyond his bubble just like when he was President. And it's just not talked about because of the short attention spans most Americans have. Truly amazing.
funny video on the republican bubble:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-an...
Bravo, Mr. Ralston.
The President hasn't led on housing (doesn't really understand the problem), on financial regulatory reform (supported a worthless bill, which didn't really change the risk profile of banks), on tax reform (scared to take a position), and like his friend Harry Reid basically believes we're light on "public sector jobs." Hmm. Yes, yes. That's really the problem. Not enough of those high paying federal employment opportunities.
And the tarmac is empty. And the Nevada independents who -- while unaffiliated with either party, are basically free market oriented people who believe in free enterprise and people taking care of themselves -- Nevada independents will abandon him in 2012. So Nevada returns to the red.
Maybe the President should take that chip and place it on the table, since he's going to need some lady luck to have Nevada's electoral votes the next time around.
I'm concerned that many Americans will vote for Obama and we may be stuck with him for another 4 years. I sure that there is a democratic candidate that could give Obama a run for his money. Obama has been selling the same thing for 3 years, same jobs bill, foreclosure solutions and economic strategies, use tax payers money. How many more failures must this nation experience. People need to read between the lines, Obama's legislation is restricted, only for the few, and not in the best interest of this country.
I love these comments about how there is ZERO chance of the Republican candidates being elected for President. BWU HA HA HA HA..... It's hard to imagine how so many of you libs are living in a fantasy land. Hmmmmm.... first there was the Govenors races in NJ and VA that went to the conservatives then there was Ted Kennedy's seat in MA (clunk).....then there was the total wipeout (er.... or was it a shellacking) just last November. You libs go on deluding yourselves about Obummer's chances next November. Word on the street is.......ABO,..... ANYBODY BUT OBAMA. My prediction is he'll get 43%.
He's toast and all of the liberal - socialist - career politicians know it, and unless he's totally blind, Barry knows it too.
Jon.....
Don't worry.
When these ignorant republicans finally pick
their loser, President Obama will sail above him
like a eagle.
President Obama is better and smarter than any
greedy, heartless republican on the face of the
earth.
No crazy republican has a chance next year.
After what these ignorant republicans did to our
economy THEY ARE TOAST NEXT YEAR.
Many Las Vegans will not admit their plight is their own dam-d fault. I used to come to Vegas 3 or more times per year. When Nevada elected Lefty Obama, I and every one I know,and thousands of others quit coming. And,when you re-elected Dingy Harry it added more fuel to the fire.
We all agreed that each one of our absence from Vegas would result in the lay-off of at least 1 Obama/Reed voter. And we were right. You got the Government you asked for. Congratulations!
And,for all those who think the demise of Las Vegas is due to the poor economy--wise up. And do not expect us back until Harry is gone too.
... Even-WE-here in Bflo./Niagara KNOW there's-NO-other RATIONAL choice for Pres. & YES: Bush/Cheney STILL get-THEE-credit for LEAVING America in its WORST economic situtation EVER with 2-unpaid WARS!!! Get-REAL-people!!!
These right-wing republican clowns and jokers
can't stop lying.
Lying is all they have.
THE TRUTH....
NEVADA HAS MORE DEMOCRATS THAN REPUBLICANS.
THE U.S. HAS MORE DEMOCRATS THAN REPUBLICANS.
acejoker......THAT'S THE TRUTH.
Stop spinning lies, republicans, we know the
truth.
PRESIDENT OBAMA WILL BE RE-ELECTED.
chief wigwam and teamster.....HA HA HA....Stop you guys...... yer killing us all. That is the funniest sh*t I've ever heard. Thats like saying a Republican could win Ted Kennedys Senate seat in MA of all places. Or that the states of Maine & Wisconsin would completely change and elect Republicans and take over the govenorship, state house, and senate.
Yer right teamster...... THEY ARE TOAST NEXT YEAR.....HA HA HA HA.....LOL.....Yer right wigwam its STILL Bushes fault....it had nothing to do with the Democrats taking over the house and senate in 2006-2010.....pay no attention to the man (or woman...Nancy Pelosi) behind the curtain.....HA HA HA HA. You guys are hilarious.....HA HA HA.....
BTW......in all honesty and candor......Nancy P and Harry R are more to blame for this mess than anyone else. Speaker of the house controls the purse strings NOT the President. Both Bush and Obama were foolish not to veto the spending sprees on their watch.
@ teamster:
If that was even vaguely the TRUTH (not even close) then you guys suck at the politics thing. You should have all the seats in government just based on numbers. (We call that logic) {You'll probably have to have someone look it up for you} So I guess that means that you (collectively Democrats) know how bad your candidates are and vote Republican. That would be the only explanation of why there are ANY non Democrats in office. Based on your TRUTH. (Sorry for the shouting, my mother raised me better but sometimes you have to sink to the other guys level.)
vichris and amused......
WOW, you guys are living in la la land.
Did you take a good look at the republican
clowns that are running for president?
NONE OF THEM STAND FOR THE AVERAGE AMERICAN
WORKER.
THEY ARE ALL ANTI-UNION.
THEY ALL WANT TO KILL HEALTH CARE.
These fools don't have a snowballs chance in
hell of beating the man who walks on water.
DEMOCRATS FOREVER.
Forget Obama. I would love to know what was going through Carolyn and Oscar's minds. Hard to tell if they're just hypocrites or hypocrites AND suck ups.
'Twas a meteor stike that took out the dinosaurs.
Come on Marla, Carolyn had goo-goo eyes for
Obama.
52,000 gallons of jet fuel @ 6.00 a gallon..... And one person shows up. Wow. Caroline Goodman is the $300,000 woman.
What a waste of fuel. The average person wont waste half that much fuel in their entire life and he runs around bragging abut being "green".
tbvegas.......
Quit crying about our great president.
Your guy destroyed our entire economy.
Now Americans have no jobs and no health care.
President Obama is trying to fix your mess.
And green is the future.
We just need to make sure that bone-headed
republicans stay out of the way.
It was a pleasure to read such a well-written article: the humor, the well-turned phrases, the grammar, even the spelling! I am actually serious; your writing is outstanding. Thanks for a job well done.
Fact is that many events moved out of Las Vegas due to Obama's comments. And remember it was not just once that he slammed Las Vegas, it was TWICE! Go back and see how the companies paid cancellation fees and moved to more expensive cities not to deal with negative comments.
Bush created issues with the economy, with a War in Iraq where the USA is not getting any more oil than they did before going to war.
Romney has not produced a real plan on taxes or with anything that anyone can really take a look at. Credit to Cain - no matter how messed up both his and Perry's tax plan is towards the lower and middle class - at least they have put something forward.
It was just so hard to get Obama to admit that he was wrong to slam Las Vegas, that is the part that is hard to get over. The LVCVA is not going to make it clear about all that was lost as they dont want to get political. Fact is that he hurt Las Vegas and no other President has ever said things about an American city that would harm their business. This hurt citizens wages at a time that no one could afford to be hurt at. Meanwhile , Harrahs Management gets paid for their cost cutting. So rich got richer, middle management cut or forced to take massive salary cuts to keep their jobs. Here is a nice bonus check to the Harrahs boys who already pull in 6 figure salaries. It is not the banks in Las Vegas that are killing local workers - it is the casino business where there is more than ever a have vs have not mentality when it comes to wages. Blame Bush or Obama for letting this all play out. Obama needs to apologize a lot more for his comments than the small phrases that he has put out there. Lets get a national debate in Vegas and see how he handles it when a Republican asks him about how he feels about Las Vegas. That is what I am hoping to see, as the ads are ready for Nevada to be run by the republican candidate. How will Obama earn voters trust here after these comments after Nevada helped to get him elected?
Obama's biggest problems have come from lack of experience--not knowing when to rise above the fray and when to roll up his sleeves to get personally involved with an issue.
Too early in his administration did he look presidental by listening to his advisors. Too late did he decide he couldn't leave it up to congress to get the job done.
So big O comes to town and the airports a ghostown ? Thats just to hilarious. No doubt he got the message hes not welcome here and will never return. Good riddance.
WoW Jon! Your article even brought the infamous John Chachas out of the woodwork for a comment! Very impressive!
What's NOT impressive, is the Rs and Ds recent bickering and not providing ANY meaningful solutions to get our country back on its feet. Time to end the 2 party system and the Electoral College, which no longer serves US.
Really? Do you honestly believe if you don't have any money in the bank that you should drink and gamble in LV? If more people stayed home with their families instead of on the strip, they wouldn't have to worry about their homes being taken away.
The president just said if you have to borrow money, you don't belong going to LV. Can't you people understand this? No wonder why they call us the #1 dumbest people in the USA. We spend money and expect others to do the same even though we can't afford it.
Almost every article comment I read always comes back to a Republican or a Democratic view. When are you going to get a clue. It does not matter if you are Republican, Democratic, Libertarian, Independent or whatever. Until the time that all Casinos return to FULL time employment the economy in Nevada is not going to move one inch in the positive.
Trouble is the "truth is in the middle politics" does not work. Just take the 39,oo Iraq troops and pay them to live in Vegas housed.
Chunk, the Cain campaign needs people like you that talk in the third person.
If Perry created jobs in Texas (not true BTW unemployment increased under Perry) then why can't Sandoval? Time for him to resign.
@summer: You are too funny---Obama never return to Vegas? You should have seen the crowds at the Bellagio, and the number of phone calls, emails, and texts asking to see him.
@metzer: exactly right! So tired of the inane comments of people who cannot understand context.
@mred: you made me laugh out loud with the Chunky comment---was thinking the same thing.
@teamster: good posts; and yes, Carolyn definitely enjoyed being the only one there to greet the president---hey! Maybe she arranged it that way---our independent mayor will help corral votes for Pres. Obama's re-election--count on it!
<<I love these comments about how there is ZERO chance of the Republican candidates being elected for President. BWU HA HA HA HA..... It's hard to imagine how so many of you libs are living in a fantasy land. Hmmmmm.... first there was the Govenors races in NJ and VA that went to the conservatives then there was Ted Kennedy's seat in MA (clunk).....then there was the total wipeout (er.... or was it a shellacking) just last November. You libs go on deluding yourselves about Obummer's chances next November. Word on the street is.......ABO,..... ANYBODY BUT OBAMA. My prediction is he'll get 43%>>
Laugh all you want but right now, NONE of these Republicans have that "something special" to win the presidency. There is no spark. No one has come up with any good ideas, just the SOS. Maybe one of them has "it" but they spend soooo much time yapping about making Obama a one-term president (and fighting amongst themselves), they forget to "sell" themselves to the American people with what THEY would do if elected President. So far, no one has come up with anything substantial. The only two worth listening to (because they are not the same old same old) is Cain and Paul; the rest are boring.
Us so-called "libs" (btw - there are quite a few that are conservatives) are not the only ones living in a "fantasy land". Look in the mirror and you will see just one of many more living in a "fantasy land".
Yeah... Obama - 43%
AND.....Republicans - 30%
Independents - 27%
I getting really, really tired of hearing that the Bush presidency caused the bad economic times we are in. It was caused by the fall of the impossibly inflated housing market. That came about because of vote-buying pressure put on Freddie and Fannie by uber-liberals Barney Frank and Ted Kennedy. Period.
BTW I'm a retired military man, so I think going to war is ALWAYS a bad thing, but wars don't hurt our economy.
jmymac1958.....
BUSH AND CHENEY CAUSED THIS MESS, PERIOD.
You need to turn off fox and and face reality.
Bush was the worst president in our lifetime.
REPUBLICAN GREED DESTROYED OUR ECONOMY!!!
FOUR MORE YEARS FOR OBAMA!!!!!!
Oh teamster. You crack me up. You still haven't figured out what and who crashed the economy. The thought of a democrat president is exactly what crashed us. The very minute we knew that we were gonna get Hillary or Obama we CRASHED!
The nice part is that is will soon get better. The way I see it, if we get a republican that can stabilize taxes and spending, fears will subside and we will start to mend.
If we get Obama back, the economy will really crash, and I mean really, really crash and spending will be forced right sized. Either way. You lose, we win!
I sure would hate to be relying on a pension when it crashes, it's gonna suck to be you!
tbvegas.....
The same advise goes for you too.
Turn off fox, you're living in lala land.
THE PROBLEM IS JOBS, PERIOD.
Your greedy republican party sent all of our
jobs to COMMUNIST CHINA.
The only thing that will fix our economy is
good paying jobs.
Not part-time, low pay Walmart jobs.
Start thinking, man.
LIVE BETTER/WORK UNION.
<<Oh teamster. You crack me up. You still haven't figured out what and who crashed the economy. The thought of a democrat president is exactly what crashed us. The very minute we knew that we were gonna get Hillary or Obama we CRASHED!>>
LOLOLOL You're a hoot, tbvegas - and have a short memory! The housing market started to crash under Bush, the job market started tanking under Bush. And no matter WHO was running for president - Hillary, Obama, etc - at the time was not the reason why the economy tanked. As far as the economy crashing because Obama and Hillary were running - that's BS! You forget all the other Democrats running and I seem to remember a gaggle of Republicans seeking the nomination!
If your assinine theory is correct - that the economy crashed with the thought of Obama and Hillary running and/or becoming president - why did John McCain lose??? Why wasn't HE elected?
Most of y'all are discounting all the great things Obama has done. Let me help u recall: take down the most dangerous terrorist (no less than 5) in a two year period and bringing our troops home by Xmas. The president didn't pull Vegas into a bad economy. This all started with bush and the unnecessary war with Iraq. Which one war leads to another. Blame him.
La La Land? You know it's true: Liberals made it possible for people who weren't qualified to get loans to buy houses they could never afford. This caused home prices to skyrocket, but Barney and Ted and their ilk kept pushing, so the cycle continued. I saw it here in Vegas (and so did you) grocery store workers buying $350,000-$450,000 houses. Eventually somebody noticed that the Emperor had no clothes. Everybody admitted that the little 1200 square ft. 2 bedroom house in the worthless desert couldn't possibly be worth that much, so the mad rush to get out started. Multiply the Vegas experience by 10,000 and you have what happened in all of America. The facts are there, but liberals, Democrats, everything-I-need-to-know-I-learned-in-kindergarteners, whatever you want to call them, just won't admit it.
Teamster - I agree with you about the problem being about jobs, I disagree about how you and you emperor try to solve it. You keep taking more and more from the makers. Read below to find out what it will get ya!
And as for you Det_Munch, It may have started to crash under Bush in 2007, But the reason was because there was no chance in hell we were gonna get a republican elected. As soon as we knew we were gonna get a whack job democrat everyone clammed up and we started into negative growth.
I agree with both of you, we may very well get this whack job back in office. For once in our nation there are more takers (peasants) than makers. But I can tell you one thing as a large employer, if he is re-elected, you will need to figure out how to take care of the hundreds of the employees I let go. I will work for free to keep my business open for 4 years. I won't do it just to make payroll and taxes for 8! And I suspect I am not alone. Good luck to ya, because the way I see it things will soon rightsize either way!
I love it when a plan comes together!
tbvegas......
If Obama gets re-elected, you're going to lay
off hundreds of employees?
You just proved Democrats correct again.
GREEDY REPUBLICANS DON'T CARE ABOUT AMERICAN
WORKERS.
Thank you for telling us what we already know.
Thank God for unions and thank God that I am a
union member.
Labor unions protect workers from greedy and
heartless republican bosses.
TEAMSTERS FOREVER.
DEMOCRATS FOREVER.
LIVE BETTER/WORK UNION.
jmymac1958.......
Your republican spin is of course not true.
THE FACT....
The housing bubble happened under the nose of
George W. Bush and under republican policy.
The Decieder decieded to look the other way.
The buck stopped at Bushes' desk.
And the no-down loan was Bushes' idea.
Buyers walked into their homes with NO EQUITY.
STOP THE RIGHT-WING BS.
And thank God for President Obama.
Teamster. You make absolutely no sense. Good luck feeding yourself and family on unemployment. If there is any.
Back at you Greedy and heartless democrats. They don't care about their employer being successfully so they can be employed.
It really doesnt matter if you understand simply economics. I (as an employer) will hire IF I am allowed to make money also. If I am not allowed to make money then neither will my employees. Like I said. It won't be a bad thing when your guy wins. Everything will be SO right sized you won't even recognize yourself. I on the other hand will wait it out until you whack jobs come to your senses and actually want a job from a successful employer. And if you don't some other person in some other country will.
Best if luck to you when the stock market is at 4000
tbvegas.....
So Americans workers are whack jobs?
WOW!
Stop it already.
We Americans workers already know how heartless
republican bosses are.
And the stock market is doing better under
President Obama.
Greedy republicans will lose big in 2012.