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Las Vegas High still No. 3 in Sun’s rankings, ready for Bone Game rivalry with Rancho

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Las Vegas High School football players Kaveo Walker and Hasaan Henderson.

"Sir Herkimer's Bone" currently resides at Las Vegas High School.  The winner of the Las Vegas vs. Rancho game gets to keep the infamous Herk's Bone.

"Sir Herkimer's Bone" currently resides at Las Vegas High School. The winner of the Las Vegas vs. Rancho game gets to keep the infamous Herk's Bone.

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Should Arbor View have accepted game with Gorman?

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Las Vegas Sun sports reporters Ray Brewer and Case Keefer are back with their weekly high school football podcast. This week's episode plays more like a variety show, as the two touch on a number of issues related to last week's gridiron action.

The third-ranked team in the Sun’s top-10 rankings will be involved in one of the most anticipated games this week.

It’s rivalry week on the local high school gridiron, starting Thursday night when No. 3 Las Vegas High attempts to extend its winning streak against Rancho in the annual Bone Game to 16 straight seasons.

But that is not the only game of interest.

Chaparral travels to Eldorado for the annual Cleat Game, No. 6 Foothill is at Basic in the Battle for Boulder Highway, and Spring Valley and Bonanza play in the Banner Game — a rivalry that typically gets little publicity, but is important to the players at both schools.

Rivalry games give teams having a down season — Chaparral and Eldorado, for instance — something to play for in the final weeks. The players, after all, don’t have to be reminded that you only get to play in these meaningful games a few times during your high school career.

Feel free to let us know which rivalry game you like the best.

Here are the rest of the weekly rankings:

1. Bishop Gorman (8-1): Give Gorman officials credit for scheduling the game with Arbor View this week. Now, the Gaels will get valuable reps in defending the double-wing offense in preparation for likely playing Palo Verde and Arbor View in next month’s playoffs. Up next: Friday vs Arbor View.

2. Palo Verde (8-0): Palo Verde will play on a Friday night for the first time since Sept. 23 when it hosts Faith Lutheran this week. Up next: Friday vs. Faith Lutheran.

3. Las Vegas High (7-0): Las Vegas’ win streak of 15 in the Bone Game against Rancho is making the rivalry irrelevant. That’s a shame. Up next: Thursday in the Bone Game vs. Rancho.

4. Arbor View (7-1): To be the best, you have to beat the best. Arbor View will get that chance Friday night, agreeing to play two-time defending state champion Bishop Gorman this week after Gorman’s game with Western was canceled. Arbor View, unlike most of the local teams that play Gorman, cherishes the opportunity to pull off the upset. Up next: Friday at Bishop Gorman.

5. Liberty (6-1): Liberty hasn’t lost a Southeast Division game since 2009. Not a bad little streak, Patriots. Up next: Friday at Coronado.

6. Foothill (6-1): Foothill last week took care of Silverado in the Victory Bell game. But will the good play continue in Foothill’s most-significant rivalry game this week. Up next: Friday in the Battle for Boulder Highway at Basic.

7. Canyon Springs (5-2): The Pioneers have won five straight games and have only surrendered 19 points the last four weeks. Up next: Friday at Valley.

8. Desert Oasis (5-2): Fourth-year Desert Oasis has already wrapped up the No. 2 seed in the Southwest. The Diamondbacks’ are in a good position to win the program’s first play game. Up next: Friday at Pahrump Valley.

9. Moapa Valley (6-2): Moapa Valley showed again last week that it is the class of the 3A by blanking rival Virgin Valley. Up next: Friday vs. Silverado.

10. Green Valley (5-2): Green Valley lost to Southeast leader Liberty last week. But, then again, everyone is defeated by Liberty. Up next: Friday at Del Sol.

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  1. I wish Vegas would schedule better OOS games. A 5 point win against a 2-6 team from Utah coupled with blowouts against the weakest teams in the state make it hard to tell if they're really that good. They would be perfect for bye week games.against Reno teams. I think a huge reason why they're ranked so high is their history and record of success. Three point win against Centennial who is fighting for a distant 3rd in NW. That's really the only game that you can use to gauge their skill level because ghe NE and Utah game are worthless. I'm going out a limb and saying that unranked Basic gets 4th in SE and either upsets or gives Vegas a much closer game than they imagined. If they I have no doubt that Vegas will get blown out by Liberty for the second year in a row.

  2. tuadad,

    I have to disagree with you about liberty beating vegas again. liberty is undiciplined and has bad coahching. yes they can pound the ball but when they get shut down the always pass on 3rd and long good teams will realize that and cause turnovers. I think libety loseds 2nd round of playoffs vegas vs gormon in state. Arbor has a good shot against the gaels. i dont think playing gormon will help gormon coaches prepare for double wing. The head coach from gormon is not a good coach he just have good players. sanchez is just lucky he has the best talent. have you seen the guy track record coaching before he went to gormon. money and the best talent has made him look good.

  3. Foothill travels 3.0 miles away for my opinion, Henderson's biggest rivalry! The Falcons have a slight edge in the history of these meetings 7-5 and once again Henderson shuts down to watch childhood friends battle it out on the gridiron! Make sure you arrive early or you'll be stuck at the gates when its time to kickoff! Good luck to both teams!

  4. Vegas is not very good. They are small up front, and have 2 good players. It is the first time, I have looked at Vegas and thought they are poorly coached. Further, I have said from day one that Liberty is highly overrated, and a product of a weak division. When it comes to Southern Nevada the three best teams have been and will always be Gorman, and the top 2 teams in the NW. Even if Arbor wins the only way football will improve in Vegas is if everyone is allowed to recruit or Gorman is prevented from doing so. Tuasdad, be honest now!

  5. "Further, I have said from day one that Liberty is highly overrated, and a product of a weak division." - GURU

    First, since when is a division considered "weak" when the 3 top teams in the division are in the overall top 10? If anything, Vegas is ranked too high due to a "weak" schedule.

    Secondly, your division is only as good as your bottom teams. Match up each divisions' last 3 ranked teams and Del Sol, Silverado and Coronado would beat most, if not all of them.

  6. Ok, for all intents and purposes, suppose the NE finishes out like this:
    #1. Las Vegas
    #2. Canyon Springs
    #3. Valley
    #4. Rancho

    and the SE finishes:
    #1. Liberty
    #2. Foothill
    #3. Green Valley
    #4. Basic

    Las Vegas-Basic match-up would be a coin-toss

    Canyon Springs-Green Valley, GV beat Foothill who beat Canyon 43-26 so we know that GV can play

    Liberty-Rancho, do I need to pick a team in this game?

    Foothill-Valley, again, no need to pick a winner.

    So we're looking at, maybe Vegas gets through and theres our top 3, still standing after the first week of playoffs.

  7. on a side note, this years been fun reading everyone's posts!

  8. I really like Guru's idea of open enrollment for freshmen. But like ive said before, Gorman will still continue to have an unfair advantage by being able to give full scholarships to incoming freshmen who all want to play on ESPN, have the great facilities, uniforms, etc. So with the open enrollment for freshmen, Gorman cannot be allowed to give full scholarships to freshmen. If this was in place this year, im pretty sure many of Gorman's top freshmen would not be there. I also understand and agree with Tuasdad about the north teams getting an automatic bye into the state finals every 3 years, especially in a year like this where the top 5 teams in the state are in the south. But nothing can realistically be done about this. Similar to California where the better teams are in Southern California and the north really has only DeLasalle and several other schools but the south teams still have to play the north for the state championship. As for the top 4 or 5 teams in Nevada, while Liberty may be 4 or 5, i believe they match up best against Gorman with their size and running and passing and at this point its all about which team has the best chance to knock off Gorman.

  9. GURU, Liberty is NOT highly overrated or anything overrated. They are huge and wear their opponents out.

    The injury to one of their big guards two weeks ago against against Basic effects their offense a bit though...it showed in the first 2 1/2 quarters of the Green Valley game.

    He'll have to come back for Liberty not to underachieve in the playoffs.

    Also, Las Vegas IS very good. Their "2 good players" have the ability to score on every play against every defense in the city - bar none.

    That makes them a serious threat.

    Coachfun, I agree. The Southeast does have the strongest bottom tier teams.

    I see the Basic/LV matchup differently, though.

    Basic is a decent team, but Las Vegas is very good and I see them winning by 20+.

    I've attended at least one game for every one of the top 10 teams, and IMO, the rankings are on the money.