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Will rising gas prices pinch Las Vegas tourism?

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High gas prices are posted at a Chevron gas station in San Francisco, Friday, March 4, 2011. Gasoline prices have shot up an average of 35 cents per gallon since an uprising in Libya began in mid-February, which could cause concerns about tourism from the California market.

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KSNV coverage of rising gasoline prices, March 4, 2011.

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In this March 2, 2011, file photo, a gas station attendant raises gas prices on a sign at a station in the Hollywood section of Los Angeles. Gasoline prices have shot up by an average of 35 cents per gallon since an uprising in Libya began in mid-February. A gallon of regular unleaded gained another 4.4 cents overnight to a new national average of $3.471 per gallon, according to auto club AAA, Wright Express and the Oil Price Information Service.

As prices at the gas pump continue to spike, forcing Americans to empty their pockets to fill their tanks, a pricey vacation is often the first thing cut from the family budget.

Rising fuel costs have already crept their way into food prices and almost every other shipped good and might soon hit the Las Vegas tourism industry.

Automotive and travel club AAA estimated in its daily fuel report Friday that Americans are paying an average of $3.47 at the pump, up nearly 20 cents from a week ago. That number compares to $3.11 a month ago and $2.70 a year ago. The price increase is primarily due to the ongoing conflict in Libya.

But even as fuel prices near the $4 mark in major tourist feeder markets like Southern California, Las Vegas tourism and resort officials don’t seem to be worried — yet.

“I think it is too early to tell what impact fuel prices are going to have on tourism to Las Vegas, but we have our feelers out in all of our major drive-in markets,” said Kevin Bagger, senior director of marketing for the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority.

Bagger said drive-in traffic accounts for about 60 percent of the total visitor traffic to Las Vegas. Although gas prices started to rise just after the New Year, drive-in traffic was still up slightly in January, Bagger said. February drive-in numbers are not available yet.

On Friday, California took the No. 1 spot for the state with the highest average fuel prices at $3.85, according to AAA. The state recorded higher prices than Hawaii and Alaska, which traditionally have the highest fuel costs. Nevada ranked No. 5 with an average cost of $3.57

In Southern California, gas prices have spiked more than 20 cents in most local areas over the past week, according to AAA’s weekly report.

The average price of gasoline in the Los Angeles-Long Beach area is $3.82 per gallon, which is about 22 cents more than last week, 45 cents higher than last month and 81 cents higher than last year, the report indicated. The Bakersfield area recorded the highest prices in Southern California at $3.82.

In previous years when fuel prices have increased, Strip resorts have offered incentives such as lower rooms rates and gas cards to draw visitors. Caesars Entertainment spokesman Gary Thompson said it’s a possibility that the company would offer similar deals, but they don’t see a need for them right now.

“Unless they go way up, like over $4 per gallon, we don’t anticipate it impacting our business,” Thompson said. “The reality is it is only going to cost an individual or group an extra few dollars to get here from Southern California.”

But AAA spokesman Michael Geeser isn’t as optimistic as the LVCVA and Caesars.

“That’s a certainly a bright outlook without knowing how high prices are going to go. The more realistic outlook is that prices in the near term are expected to go up,” Geeser said.

Geeser said motorists will see pump prices rise because the prices being set for fuel purchases in the coming months continue to go up, which causes gas stations to raise their current prices.

This past week marked the second largest weekly fuel price increase since 1990, Geeser said. The largest weekly increase was 48 cents in September 2005 after Hurricane Katrina.

“We are starting to see some records being set and being broken,” Geeser said. “We have a few months for prices to go up, so we could easily hit the $4 mark.”

Thompson said the last time fuel prices rose to about $4, Caesars saw a slight downtick in visitors. But it might have been exacerbated by the over all economic downturn, he said.

Dan Hippler, vice president of Vegas.com, said when fuel prices increased in 2008, the booking and ticketing website saw few changes in room rates from Las Vegas resorts. Vegas.com is a sister company of the Las Vegas Sun.

“My guess is there is some tipping point where the drive market would really shrink up and impact room rates because of the less demand,” he said.

Hippler said Memorial Day weekend will be the best indicator because it generally is a big weekend for drive markets

The spike in oil prices could also begin to impact air travel, tourism and resort officials said. Jet fuel prices have increased more than 50 percent in the last year, according to the Air Transport Association.

Geeser said when gas prices go up, people tend to start to cut back on certain luxuries, including travel, so Las Vegas could see air travel decline as well.

Thompson said Caesars plans to watch it closely.

“There is a concern that if oil prices stay as high as they are that it may impact airfares, particularly among start-up airlines that serve Las Vegas, because it has happened in the past,” Thompson said.

Ortbiz.com senior travel editor Jeanenne Tornatore said the travel booking website has seen flight prices increase in several major cities for travel booked between March 1 and May 31.

Las Vegas ranked as the second most popular destination on Orbitz.com with a fare increase of 15 percent compared to same period last year. Flights to Denver saw the biggest fare increase at 38 percent.

Tornatore suggested that those who are on a tight budget should expand their flight search to smaller regional airports, which often have cheaper fares, and to try to avoid excess fees like standby lists, seat upgrades and carry-on bags.

When booking a vacation, Tornatore said, try to book a flight and hotel package.

“This is where hotels and flights that need to fill seats are willing to offer deeply discounted rates to us when we bundle it as a package,” she said.

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  1. I think it will. We are trying to get to Las Vegas in June (love the hot, hot dry heat)...but airfare that was 250 last year is now over 400.

    Can't justify a flight over 400 when we could go anywhere in North America for that price...Las Vegas used to be a budget friendly destination.

    Thanks airlines!!

  2. Compared to international standards, gas and fuel prices in the U.S. are still way too low! I absolutely support gas prices up to 6 or even 8 dollars/ gallon. It will may the guys pay that believe that they must impress themselves and their neighborhood driving big SUV's, Hummers and Super Size Heavy Duty Pickups. This is 2011 and not 1965 , my fine and interested listeners. Oil peak has been passed already and there is not unlimited resources of oil for us mankind. Obviously, some people still believe that there is no end in sight. I am really happy that gas prices are starting to pull up. It will mage the ignorants pay.

    As there are many Californians driving into Vegas on any given weekend, chances are that there will be a little less money for spending available if fueling up costs now 55 dollars and not 45. It's 10 bucks per car, maybe, but with 100s of thousands of cars, this figure could quickly mount up to a big figure for the tourist organisations.

    to me, it will not affect me at all. I am used gas prices of 8 dollars/ gallon, as seen in most European countries. Therefore, it's laughable to see that you Americans start whining around about big gas prices when you never learned to drive more fuel efficient cars. Keep going on, and you will pay the price.

    From Switzerland

  3. Nice try, dipstick. Like most lefties, you spin the facts to meet your agenda. The peanut farmer, Jimmy Crater, absolutely the worst president in my time (Osama Obama comes close), was not thrown out of office because he was scared by a rabbit, wore a sweater or suggested we lower our thermostats. That moron was ousted because of his pitiful handling of the economy. When Carter was rightfuly booted out, inflation, unemployment and interest rates were ALL IN DOUBLE DIGITS! And I didn't even get to his mishandling of the 52 American embassy employees held hostage for 444 days. They were only freed after Ronald Reagan was sworn in to replace that SOB Carter! BTW, I'll take partial blame because, I was so mad at Ford for pardoning Nixon, I voted for Carter.

  4. I am awaiting more heavy verbal attacks and offense by more ignorant people that just can't or simply don't want to admit that driving huge cars with this planet slowly running out of oil is complete insanity and madness. And the people that still opt to drive such cars should be happy when they can live in the US where 4 dollars on the gallon, I repeat myself, based on international comparisons, is still way tooooo cheap.

    I am not saying in Switzerland there are only small cars on the roads, but matter-of-fact, the average fuel consumption of our cars is way lower than in the U.S. Proved and confirmed. And it still allows people communting from one place to the other. It doesnn't take a huge truck to get your axxxx from one place to the other. In fact, sometimes you can also walk, it keeps you from getting too fat.

    From Switzerland

  5. The petroleum industry is complicated, however, what's not complicated is that every attempt Congress has made to deal with it either through royalty taxes or other legislation has simply been stymied by industry lobbyists. This has been going on for a long, long time. Someone here posted that it's been since the 70s and that's correct.

    I think that if we focused on improving public transportation here and, in fact, almost everywhere that would resolve a lot of the problems. It must be awful for the "work-a-day Joe" to have to fill up his tank at these rates, and, of course that ripples through the economy.

    You can drive this story to politics and place blame on either the left or right, but at the end of the day, increases in gas and other energy prices hurt all of us (unless we're Buffet's or Trump's of course) and probably will hurt our snail paced recovery.

    It seems these days that there is nothing on which the GOP and the Dems can agree. At some point, they're going to have to or our nation and the lifestyles we know will just continue to deteriorate.

    You can throw all the numbers and statistics around that you like, but it all comes down to what you have in your pocket and how you're going to spend it. These days people aren't spending on discretionary purchases, those that often drive the economy. You can rant and rave about the two parties, but here, both are to blame.

    And, by the way, good story Amanda.

  6. The statistics say that 70% of Las Vegas tourists drive into town from Southern California. Using a 600-mile/22MPG average, gas costs these tourists $29 for every $1 per gallon in fuel prices. Not much.

    I took a 6000 mile cross country-and-back trip that lasted three weeks once, and a $1 spike in fuel prices would mean an additional cost to me of $273 in fuel. I still would have made that trip.

    The real question is: Will fuel prices rise significantly and permanently? If so, then the prices of everything we do and buy will increase permanently, not just vacations.

  7. Boris, while some of the points you make may have validity, you are showing your European bias. Switzerland is unique not just in Europe, but in the world, with the way it thinks about natural resources and money.

    People should drive what they can afford and what they want, regardless of the size or fuel efficiency. Many of those huge new SUVs get better MPG than my 26 year old Alfa Romeo coupe, but the resources and carbon footprint used to build a new vehicle far outstrip the improvement in MPG.

    Not everything is a simple as it appears.

  8. Excellent points from Switzerland. The people that drive the SUVs and Macho pick-ups have small male sexual organs and are bad in bed. $8 to $10 a gallon gas will pay for roads and rapid transit along with funding alternative energy efforts.

    The high speed Maglev to So-cal is a total necessity. Las Vegas is dying now.

    The Chevy Volt (car of the year) looks pretty good now Mr. Limbaugh. Great move by GM.

    We need to bring back the cash for clunkers, to eliminate the dinosaur-mobiles.

    Natural gas is a good alternative for commercial vehicles.

    90% of the time, the pickups are empty, get a trailer or rent a truck fools.

  9. Cash for clunkers? No, thanks. I'll keep my old cars. I'm not interested in intrusive OBD.

    Oil will run out at some point in the future. There is no point in conserving it. The faster we use it up, the faster we will be on to the next energy source. And we won't be on to the next energy source until oil is gone. We don't need "incentives" for alternative energy sources; you can rest assured that the oil companies of today will be the alternative energy companies of tomorrow. Follow the money.

    For now, how about building 100 new, modern nuclear energy plants? Modern nuclear energy is what powers most of the, ahem, "admired" European countries.

    (I'm curious, though, how one gets so much detailed intimate knowledge of so many SUV and pick-up truck drivers...)

  10. James,
    Why do you want to drive old death traps? See here for the results of crashing an old car into a modern one: http://www.iihs.org/video.aspx/info/50th...

    Your faith in switching to new fuels is touching. I suppose you support the research programs in the universities that may make this possible? DOE research? As to the knowledge part, women DO talk you know.

  11. Where the gas/fuel prices are hurting most, are the people on FIXED incomes, who live one check to the next. When they have to figure where each penny goes: housing, food, medical, commute to job, these are the ones who truly suffer---and there are millions of such people. These folks might be able to take a vacation once every ten years, if they are so fortunate.

    Presently, many(hundreds) Clark County school district employees, are considering the RISK of transferring to a job location that is closer to their home to save on commuting dollars they must spend to get to their jobs daily. Should they transfer, they risk seniority or being placed back onto probation, all for the prudent effort of saving fuel money or being environmentally conscious. It is a true worry.

    Senior citizens, young adults, working poor, and those who are laid off/under-employed, or not working (millions of such people) rarely, if ever, can look forward to a luxury vacation, so the Tourism Industry doesn't care to factor them in. Thank God for the backyard BBQ!

  12. Unless someone has a legitimate reason to have a large vehicle on a regular basis, gas guzzlers SUVs should be considered an environment hate crime. The drivers should be arrested for global warming and their cars seized and crushed.

    I hope the people in Saudi Arabia close the oil fields there, it will help us achieve our green future.

  13. Mr. Schaffer, you don't think I know that new cars have improved passive safety versus old ones? That said, the best safety device (and the most common to fail in auto accidents) is human judgment, and no amount of passive safety devices will help you there. I'm one of those crazy self-determination people who accepts the risks and the responsibilities of my choices and actions. Weird, I know.

    As to your question of my "faith," I don't follow you. Ask a non-leading question without the bells-and-whistles of argument and I'll do my best to answer. (Further, to continue the personal attack on those who drive trucks is absurd and reveals the weaknesses of your position. Anyone who puts forth the idea that truck drivers have small penises cannot be taken seriously. It's a joke, not a legitimate argument.)

    Some folks seem to want some sort of government board determine who has a "legitimate" reason to drive what they choose. Nothing could be more intrusive. Drive what you can afford and what you want, folks, and listen not to the passive-aggressive threats of those who would take that freedom away. Haven't had a truck in 20 years, but I'll buy one if I want one.

    It's a beautiful day, and my 18MPG (on a good day) Alfa Romeo is begging to be redlined. When the dino-fuel runs out, my 1983 Mercedes Benz Diesel will still burn whatever fuel oil I throw at it. Enjoy your debate, folks.

  14. Amanda, that picture must be old.

    I just paid $3.65 for premium at Smiths yesterday.

    And I hope that you will cover my new proposal, Amanda.

    Someone stole my 70 mpg scooter and I think that this is a crime that warrants the "death penalty."

    We may not be able to bump off these Big Oil executives, but something could be done here at ground level.

    Oh...and I have pictures of my heisted scooter, Amanda.

    Do lunch?

  15. If the press, and the politicians in Washington, DC, would use their brain before opening their mouth - then just MAYBE, there would be a more positive slant voiced concerning events in the Middle East.

    The biggest problem we have, in my opinion, is that the President, Members of Congress, and the American press have failed to assess what is going on, and the view it properly (such as from a historical perspective).

    The "revolutions" that are happing in Lybia (and elsewhere around the world), are NOT the beginning of World War III. Nor are they even close to a "dooms-day" scenario - except, perhaps, for the CAREERS of some politicans who failed to observe and work with Middle Eastern countries.

    To preclude rising oil prices, America needs the President, et al, to STOP being politicans, and become LEADERS who will work to reassure us about the impact of Middle East events - as pertains to the possibility of oil shortages, and how it COULD effect our economy.

    Then, the appropriate measures should be taken to FREEZE THE PRICE OF OIL - until market speculation and "cooler heads" preclude this "run on the market" - all of which is s creating price inflation by hedge fund investors, and other stock market spectulators; NOT a shortge of oil.

    I do not see ANY OIL SHORTAGE at the moment, so one might ask: "why the oil price rise?" In the 1970's, prices rose to hige levels because oil WAS in short supply, and the (Arab and other) suppliers were forcing the barrel cost higher.

    An oil shortge is NOT the situation currently. Everything that is happening is the result of stock market speculation.

    The President could STOP THIS if he wanted to, but I believe HE WANTS higher prices - and sees these Middle East events as an OPPORTUNITY to FORCE Americans to get rid of their gasoline-engine cars.

    The problem is that a fast and massive change in the kind of cars people drive would not be possible until sufficient numbers of new cars - and money to buy them - bacame available to replace the current car ownership inventory in America.

    If allowed to continue, the oil market price manipulation that is going on now, will have a the SAME EFFECT that the recent Sub-Prime mortgage debacle had on our economy.

    The difference is that the Sub-Prime debacle was the result of good (AAA), and bad, mortgage-backed securities that were issued to Wall Street by Fannie and Freddie - and resulted in our current economic defaults. NOW, once again, it will be greed, and the zeal for speculation, of oil speculators on Wall Street that will crush our economy, cause a price rise in the production of goods and services, se areas, and have a negative impace on the ability of America's workers to recover.

  16. James,
    New cars also have active safety systems and since you can't ensure that other drivers will drive safely, or that you will, your argument about self determination is irrelevant and actually unprovable. Of course you don't follow my argument on your faith in the ability to switch to new fuels. Many societies in the past have fallen apart when they exhausted their resource base (see Jared Diamond's "Collapse" for much more on this) just as we are in the process of doing. You wave your magic wand and see nuclear power plants and new fuels springing up...as if it were that easy. What is your expertise to make such proclamations? Try reading this article to begin to understand why a supply side attempt to solve our energy problems is certain to fail: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.ht...
    As for "legitimate" reasons to drive certain vehicles, your license can be pulled for many legitimate reasons and why do you think there are different classes of license? Your actions and irresponsible attitude should be reason to restrict your ability to drive many kinds of vehicles. In short you are just another libertarian style *ss.

  17. Time to ban vehicles with more than 6 cylinders.

  18. Boris likes $8 a gal gas and like most nit wit socialist europeans wants Americans to suffer. Boris doesn't like our big vehicles and our way of life. It's okay, I understand your jealousy and your need to be condescending. It helps to make up for your shortcomings. I know I always feel satisfaction when pointing out the hypocrisy of those in your country.

    Well, then Boris, stay in Switzerland, which is small enough to fit in the hip pocket of most of our states. Boris sounds like an urban turban. You know, a city boy.

    Try raising cattle on a Wyoming or Montana ranch without a pickup truck. That example could be extrapolated into thousands of examples where Americans need trucks and large vehicles.

    Tomorrow, after I watch the race, I'm going to get into my GMC Z71 and pick up a half a dozen sheets of 1" plywood, numerous 2x4, 8x12 and 4x4 boards and posts, about twenty bags of concrete and other miscellaneous supplies to finish the workshop I'm building on my back lot. And I'll probably stop and put in about a hundred dollars worth of gas in it so that when I put it in 4 wheel drive to cross the creed bed I won't run out before I get back,

    Boris, try that in the rutt a putt putt or ringy dingy dingy you likely drive. Or maybe you have a high performance rutty putt putt like a beemer. How many sheets of plywood, how many 8x12s, how many bags of concrete can you put in your rutty putt putt?

    Boris... do Americans a favor... stay in Switzerland. Maybe you can find a couple of old Nazis to collaborate with so you can steal more money and art from any Jews still living there.

  19. @Jerry: Enough factoids. Carter and the American economy were plagued with (are you ready for this?): inflation DUE TO A HUGE INCREASE IN THE PRICE OF OIL (on which were were then dependent). And, today -- even though Presidents since Richard Nixon have been vowing "Energy Independence" -- we are STILL dependent on oil. WE HAVE SEEN THIS COMING FOR 50 YEARS -- AND WE STILL HAVEN'T SWITCHED CARS, TRUCKS, AND PLANES TO OTHER SOURCES OF POWER.

    Here is a real Las Vegas Fact for you, Jerry: about 2/3rd of our tax revenue is based directly or indirectly on tourists. Those tourists make it possible for you to enjoy public services without paying the high taxes that drove you from your native Wisconsin. If they don't come, we -- and that includes you -- have to pay.

  20. Amanda: Just came back from the LA/OC area last week -- gas prices were at $4/gallon for unleaded. If fuel prices continue to increase, this is going to hurt LV, starting at the low end and working its' way up eating up the organizations catering to the middle market -- including business (convention) travelers.

  21. Once again, we see an article that picks Bakersfield as number one in a dubious category. We've been going head to head with Las Vegas fir first place on foreclosures and real estate price collapse.
    There is a Chevron near me that is $4.00 a gallon. Last time I filled up the Malibu (a week ago) it was $3.43 at Costco, now over $3.80 there.
    I generally buy smaller (not tiny) cars because I'm too cheap to pay more for gas than I have to. We have a Malibu and an Aztek, the Malibu gets 35-37 on Las Vegas trips with conservative driving style. Even the Aztek gets 25 on the highway.
    As prices hit $4.00, the economy will sputter (more than it already is) as those who are barely getting by have to spend an extra $100 a month on gas, they will have to cut in other areas.
    Hey mred, 3 years ago, you guys were all saying the (then) president was controlling gas prices. So does that mean the president now is equally responsible?
    Those who can afford it will continue to drive the gas hogs, The rest of us will buy more efficient vehicles next time we buy. The 40mpg Chevy Cruze looks good to me right now. But my paid for cars in perfect running order look even better.
    I'll be driving the Malibu to Vegas in May.

  22. As for WHY we in America are not making any progress toward independence from buying foreign oil, the biggest reason seems to be opposition from ENVIRONMENTALISTS, and POLITICIANS - both who have different axes to grind.

    The Environmentalists give "no quarter" when it comes to compromise, or agreeing to permit drilling for oil ON LAND - in Alaska, the North Western States, or in other States. Neither do they want to allow drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, or off the Atlantic and the Pacific Oceans.

    SO JUST WHERE CAN WE DRILL TO GET THE NEEDED OIL?

    We CANNOT WAIT until we "change our ways" (that is, our need for oil) until something better like an electric car comes along. And our country is not small place to get around in.

    We need oil to keep our ECONOMIC engine running. The economic successes we have achieved using oil in the past, demonstrate that we will STILL need oil to remain a successful nation in the future - for cars, for ships, for farm equipment, for factories, for heating homes, and a thousand other things that use oil.

    But our POLITICIANS - including the current president - have not and probably will not encourage efforts to drill for the huge resources of DOMESTIC OIL that we have available for the taking.

    I am talking about the oil find in the NW, and Alaska, that The Dept of Energy has proven exists - and which the DOE and oil companies have known about for 10 years. There are vast amounts of oil - ON LAND - in our North Western States.

    Why don't we go get it? That would be a good beginning.
    All it would take is some political will - and some common sense - and we could make a significant move toward oil independence.

    HOWEVER, politicans make many too promises they can't keep, and the environmentalists will not yield to permit such land-based drilling. Thus, since the government allows - if not sponsors - such intervention in drilling policy, we will continue to buy oil from other countries forever. And eventually, we will go broke from the cost of our INACTION - and the further decline of our current economy.

  23. The discussion went just the way I expected it to go. I like the critics by guys like, let me check....by Brass or James Rezza. You are exactly the kind of persons I probably was trying to refer to. Too ignorant to understand that driving super big size trucks is totally off. But you will never learn, from what I read. Your ignorance will follow you on your way to state bankruptcy which is about to happen in approx 25 to 30 years from now, the latest. Your indebtness is so big already and you don't show any sign of willingness to cut down on anything, so sooner or later you guys will have to pay the price for this attitute. Some, if not many of your fellow countrymen are already paying...
    Well, I really don't care how much gas costs will be like. May it go up to 10 or even 15 dollars per gallon. At that point even small-thinking people will have to understand that it can't go on like that anymore.

    The problem about possible oil shortage is not necessarily that commuting becomes difficult (yes, it's true, technically it may be possible to fuel electric cars with power generated from nuclear power plants), but oil is the resource of almost all other living essentials. But you probably have forgotten about it. You probably believe that the only thing you do with the oil pumped off the ground is to fuel your pick-ups and SUV's. Obviously that's not the case.
    And even if cars may be driven by electric engines, operating airplanes without liquid fuel will become almost impossible in the near future.

    It is true, however, we will run out of oil anyway, whether we use it up carefully or lavishly, we will use it up, eventually. However, there's a difference between using up resources responsibly , or recklessly. Any kind of wasting natural resources is something I learned is something you should avoid, in order to respect your environment, and also , the generations that will follow.
    I am aware that you prefer this good old "slash-n-burn" attitude. But you can be sure that it will backfire some day. No matter how big your country is, it will fail.

    From Switzerland

  24. Funny, Boris. Your head is too far up your Swiss booty to realize that you and I have agreed on many, many points in the past. So instead, you attack me with the righteousness of your own head.

    Too bad you think you know *everything* - you don't.

  25. Mr. Schaffer rants on about, "Your actions and irresponsible attitude should be reason to restrict your ability to drive many kinds of vehicles."

    I guarantee I'm a better driver than you. And, my penis is bigger.

  26. James Reza

    I think as it comes to wasting water and energy, the US is the leading nation. Statistics prove that the U.S. needs more than 2x as much energy per person than any other human kind on this planet. I don't know, but I wouldn't be too proud of that. Arrogance is one thing, and common sense is another one.
    Instead of whining around how expensive driving has become, I would rather look for alternatives. You can drive a car that has a much better mileage and therefore save a lot of money even if gas price goes up to 5 or even 6 dollars on the gallon. But that's probably a little too high mathematics for the average thinking person in your country.

    From Switzerland

  27. James,
    Hardly a rant, just stating the fact that your drivers license carries restrictions built in according to the class listed on . You on the other hand clearly demonstrate sociopathic tendencies that you should seek help for and maybe you can learn compassion...although I doubt it.

  28. Don't worry, folks. Take a quick look at the Bloomberg headline news and it is clearly written that at 110 dollars/ barrel it will start hurting the US economy as well as the global growth. According to un-confirmed reports, the US navy is working to install an air-bridge to the Lybian rebells to provide them with weapons and everything needed. Obviously it is very much of the international interest to solve that conflict as rapidly as possible under any conditions. This will then result in a cool off and the over heated oil prices will then start to go back to normal levels. Everything will be all good.

    From Switzerland

  29. Hi BorisR,
    The cornucopians here need to look at this editorial article: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.ht...

  30. Mark Schaffer

    I went on that article you recommended. It went back in 2001 when a nation such as China was never were it is now. And if you just imagine that in Shanghai alone every week 50,000 additional cars will be put into circolation, it is easy to understand that the global consumption is growing at a pace never ever seen before.

    Fair enough, it must be said that the most recent jump in oil price is a result of speculators and the crisis in North Africa. We see, however, only very "little" problems can make the oil price jump like a cannon fire. What about when there's a really big problem to come up? Ever thought of that?

    As for me, I think the best way of living is to be independant from a motovehicle. Urban life or the possibility of riding public transportation systems, that's the way to go. Unfortunately, where I live, there is no such thing as an underground train system, but I am happy to live nearby where I work and all groceries stores , banks , etc is in reach. I couldn't imagine living 25 miles away from where I work. It would be too much of a drag driving every day back and forth just to find out that you are not only wasting gas but also spend too much time commuting.
    That's the way I see things. But of course, the people that like driving in cars, they are welcome to pay for this luxury.

    From Switzerland