Friday, March 4, 2011 | 2:01 a.m.
Edward Finger
Steve Sisolak
Sun archives
- Under scrutiny, firefighter sick leave falls (2-27-2011)
- County considers seeking reimbursement over firefighter sick leave abuse (2-15-2011)
- County OKs contract with firefighters that saves $7.4 million (2-1-2010)
- Arbitrator backs county over firefighters’ union in contract negotiations (1-19-2011)
- County firefighters union preaches frugality, to others (11-2-2010)
- Sisolak offers proof of firefighters ‘gaming’ sick leave system (9-11-2010)
- County, firefighters’ union spar over contract negotiations (8-3-2010)
- Is a wave of county firefighter retirements on the horizon? (6-25-2010)
- Rory Reid says firefighters union resorting to ‘scare tactic’ with ad (6-15-2010)
- County considers plan to privatize airport firefighting force (6-11-2010)
- New plan to curtail Clark County firefighter overtime (6-5-2010)
- Staffing shuffle would cut county Fire Department overtime (5-20-2010)
- Las Vegas, Clark County collaborate to limit firefighter overtime (4-27-2010)
- Fire union resists move to increase its ranks, reduce overtime costs (4-16-2010)
- Has fire union support become a campaign curse? (4-15-2010)
Two weeks ago, two Clark County officials were at the Sawyer State Office Building waiting their turn to address state lawmakers.
Ed Finger, an assistant Clark County manager, wanted to gather more information about a bill proposed by the firefighters union to exempt certain public employees from the requirements for disability payments. Commissioner Steve Sisolak, who has made his assault on firefighter overtime and sick leave a part-time job over the past year, was less circumspect.
“I’m here because I can’t believe they are actually considering a bill that would give firefighters another benefit and, essentially, sidestep new rules we won to rein in sick-leave abuse,” Sisolak said. “It’s unbelievable.”
The bill, which was scheduled to be introduced Feb. 21 in the Assembly Commerce and Labor Committee, was a bellwether on the leverage firefighters and police unions have with the Democratic majorities who have long been their allies.
The committee is chaired by Assemblyman Kelvin Atkinson, a county employee. Atkinson’s “boss” in the Legislature is Assembly Speaker John Oceguera, a North Las Vegas firefighter.
The bill would change state law to exempt firefighters, police officers, emergency medical workers and arson investigators from the requirement that they be incapacitated by cancer, lung disease or hepatitis for at least five days over a 20-day period to receive disability compensation.
The measure was being proposed at a time when Clark County was asking departments to identify ways to cut spending by 9 percent and the state was preparing to relieve the county of as much of its tax revenue as it could.
Another budget hit was the last thing many would have expected from the Legislature. And yet there it was.
Stunning to Sisolak was that the bill emerged weeks after an arbitrator granted Clark County new rights to fix potential abuse of the sick-leave system by county firefighters after seeing e-mail from firefighters asking for sick days months ahead of time.
“These aren’t the days, I hope, where they just get whatever they want,” Sisolak said.
Indeed, just two years ago, state lawmakers set aside objections from Clark County to approve a bill that expanded the types of cancers — melanoma, prostate, testicular and thyroid — for which firefighters must be tested at taxpayer expense.
The firefighter argument was that their jobs make them more susceptible to those cancers.
Clark County managers argued that no clear evidence connected firefighting and the cancers. In fact, one analysis showed firefighters suffered no higher risk of cancer than the general population.
Still, legislators approved the bill and stuck Clark County with the $500,000 annual cost for the tests.
This session brought a different outcome. At the last second, AB131 was pulled without a hearing. Atkinson gave no reason for pulling the bill.
Sisolak said it seemed to him that “it wasn’t going to be so easy to get something like that passed because firefighters have lost a ton of political influence.”
Bolstering this belief is another bill that would whittle away at the presumption that any heart or lung disease a veteran policeman or firefighter gets is caused by the job — and treatment gets paid by taxpayers, said Carole Vilardo, president of the Nevada Taxpayers Association. Introduced by rural Sen. Dean Rhoads, R-Tuscarora, the bill was brought up on behalf of Vilardo’s organization.
The bill still presumes certain diseases are job-related. But now, after a firefighter leaves the job, the time during which he or she has to contract the disease, and still maintain coverage, would be limited to five years for cancer, lung disease or heart disease and one year for hepatitis.
“That particular bill will be a good indicator about whether the Legislature is serious in their attempt to reform costs associated with firefighters,” said one lobbyist close to local governments.








http://transparentnevada.com/salaries/20...
steve sisolak is...
THE FRICKIN MAN!!!
larry brown is...
starting to show promise...
tom collins is...
a big part of the problem...
chris giunchliani is...
a big part of the problem...
since the others are not part of the solution they must also be part of the problem...
if the abusers are not fired...
the managers must be fired...
period...
end of story...
UNREAL
nice link birdie. i kept scrolling down to see a firefighter salary below 200k and it never happened, some making almost a 1/2 mill a year? this is more than the average doctor or CEO for christsakes!
Another attempt to secure benefits without substantiating evidence that FFs are indeed at any greater risk than other workers. The hand-wringing by union mouthpieces, just as Rusty McCallister union rep did on Face to Face last night when he pleaded that the county "ONLY" had to hire more FFs to curtail OT. How about taking a look at the need for 4 person engine companies? With less than 1% of all emergency calls being for structure fires (of ANY magnitude) where is the documentation that the victim outcome substantially changed as a direct result of 3 or 4 FFs responding. "Gee, we extricated the dead body in 10 minutes instead of 20 minutes, we're heros!" Sending 3 FF's instead of closing down fire stations can provide effective service in 99% of nearly every call for help. Management should be performing contiual audits of incidents to measure effectiveness, and the relationship to staffing levels. The 4th FF is called a "Smoke Detector", $10 gives people an early warning so they can walk out of a house while a fire is small and call for help. This firefighting isn't rocket science. Ask any honest FF if they would respond in with a 3 person crew, and you may be surprised how many would be willing, there are some who really are heros.
hey district attorney david rogers...
how is that criminal investigation going buddy...
hmmm...
we all know you are a pathetic joke...
one need look no further than the hepatitis epidemic to prove that beyond even the slightest hint of there ever being a speck of a doubt...
roughly 50,000 affected...
only 3 charged...
only 1 doctor charged..
happened years ago...
no one in jail yet...
no one on death row yet...
you sir...
are a pathetic joke...
incapable of protecting the citizens of clark county...
period...
end of story...
now...
since you are such a pathetic joke...
let me pick that big bad brain of yours...
ready...
isn't the legal standard for bringing criminal charges "probable cause"???
if so...
doesn't probable cause mean "reasonable belief"???
if so...
doesn't the statistical data that firemen used sick time at a far greater rate than other county employees provide the "reasonable belief" that there was abuse???
and...
doesn't the statistical data that sick time has dropped significantly since the heat has been turned up also provide the "reasonable belief" that there was abuse???
hmmm???
now...
what say you davie "the worst frickin district attorney in america" rogers???
hmmm???
answer the damn questions...
i am absolutely positive that i am not the only taxpayer who would love to hear you answer the damn questions!!!
So do the female firefighters get checked for testicular cancer too?? Or is that only for the boys club??
Union Scum! Most of these firefighters have an incredibly cushy job. It is a myth that it is an overly dangerous job compared to others. We should outsource the whole thing. These parasites are sucking the taxpayers dry. When is it going to stop?
Once again Joe writes what Sisolak tells him.
Finger does what Telemarketer Sisolak tells him to do.
Does Joe S. work for Clark County Government or the Las Vegas Sun.
I wonder.....????
Good Job Steve Sisolak! You are the ONLY one that makes any sense.
With the money they're making they could well afford to pay for their own Doctor visit and test. So damn greedy and it's going to be their undoing :)
We need a few more Sisolaks on the commission.
Is there no limit to the hubris of these people?
Thanks for doing a great job, Steve. We need somebody like you in L.A. Donald Trump was on Letterman this week. He said China will probably be #1 in 12 years. But with people like you it may take longer.
WoW, That was close! The newspaper ALMOST went one whole day without trashing firefighters. You wouldn't want to miss a day, would ya? The chamber of commerce might cut you off. And when is Joe McCarthy, sorry, I mean Sisolak, going to give back the 23 million dollars he took from county taxpayers to help the budget that he and the rest of the commisioners overspent?
If you live next door to as fireman go knock on his door and tell him what a scumbag he (or she) is.
Thanks Steve. If the firefighters don't want to be trashed every day perhaps they should stop trying to steal from the rest of us who pay them.
Birdie For President!
Don't forget to reward Sisolak in the next election. The cockroaches from the fire department will be out to get him; but we will have plenty of roach motels.
Fire Scum!
Disagree, firefighter, law enforcement are no more susceptible to cancer than a construction worker or anyone who works around electronic or in the medical field. Public safety personnel are given more than adequate protective gear to wear during the performance of their job, as well as safety training. This is just another scheme by the firefighters to milk the tax payers and pad their salary and benefits. If the firefighters of this state do not like their job in regards to their pay and benefits, they can quit anytime they want, there are plenty of other personnel in the US who would love to have their job, without special treatment.
Dan: I guess listening to Sisolak is better than listening to say.....Dario Herrera, Erin Kenney, Lance Malone, Yvonne Atkinson-Gates or Mary Kincaid? Are you saying that these wonderful convicted criminals did such a bang up job? Were you complaining then? Huh? (Crickets chirping).
Dan...So no one should hold any of the public employees accountable?
As they will always do the right thing!
Like the firefighters for example.
Never mind the taxpayers. They do not count...RIGHT.
The firefighters have too much time on their hands. They get to set around and brainstorm ideas on how to take more money from the taxpayers. Over the years they have become experts at this. Then they take their ideas to the county and state and get them enacted into laws. It's pretty easy when the ideas are presented to colleagues and campaign recipients. A wink and a nod, a new benefit is created. Now that tax dollars are scarce the schemes are starting to be uncovered. The firefighters, once the heroes are now self serving scum!The party is over and the money needs to be recovered!
Looks like Sissy-lak has a new B**CH BOY at the Las Vegas Enquirer. I wonder how much jealous cat fighting goes on not in Sissy's bed for the next "BREAKING STORY" about firefighter's. This is getting just as bad as the constant stories about Charlie Sheen or Lindsey Lohan. Only difference is people WANT to hear about them. These stories are worn out just like your mom is. Hey Joe, do you have a real office or do you just keep your typewriter under Sissy's desk?
tvegas
I wish you would come to my door!
Bites
Maybe four dollars of your tax dollars goes to the Fire Departments budget every year, and you want to go back to the 3 firefighters on an engine to save .05 cents. It is safer for the Firefighters (not like you care), and for the public to have four firefighters on an engine. How much money did you spend on home and car insurance last year? $500, $1000, $2000, and did you need to file a claim?
The truth is many of you don't care about how much money the the fire departments budget is. You would rather spend twice the amount of money and hire enough firefighters to stop OT, and reduce the amount of money these firefighters are making with OT.
Looks like Mr. Sisolak and company need to create a new job description for "fire fighters" and hire new employees under that contract. Then we CAN ELIMINATE ALL CURRENT FIRE FIGHTERS who have no concept of work, employment, cost-benefit....
lasvegas
The fire departments continue to use 19th century methodlogy to address 21st century problems. The biggest improvement in safety from fire came with the fire sprinkler retrofit law that followed the MGM fire in 1980. Fire sprinklers, smoke detectors, alarm systems, construction materials, and hundreds of other innovations have done more to protect the public from fire over the years than any fire engine staffed with any number of FFs. With less than 1% of calls for emergency services being for fire (see US Fire Administration stats) you know that the real demand is EMS (>65% of calls for service) Obviously you don't care about spending money for a bunch of primadonnas sitting around unproductively waiting to squirt water and then call a reporter to further espouse how wonderful they are. Intelligent people would prefer to make an investment in current technology and prevent fires from ever getting a chance to grow large enough to harm somebody (including the firefighters). I buy insurance to protect my investments, as I can replace a house, business, car etc.. but I can't replace a life. I also buy smoke detectors, sprinklers, and employ good construction practices so I can save myself instead of waiting to be "saved" by a bunch of self-proclaimed heros. The US is ranked pretty dismal when compared with other industrialized nations when it comes to loss of life by fire, thanks in large part to the myths that are promulgated by your propaganda.
Bites
I'm sorry for what ever reason you hate firefighters. It's obvious when you are calling us primadonnas, self-proclaimed hero's who sit around calling reporters and, telling them how wondeful we are.
A Prima Donna is either
1. A principal female singer
2. A vain or undisciplined person who finds it difficult to work under direction or as part of a team.
I am neither of the two. All professional firefighters must be very disciplined, work as a team player, and work under direction from superior officers.
I have never called my self a hero, or told a reporter a wonderful I am. Im proud of you for buying
smoke detectors, and fire sprinklers in your home. I have only been to a
couple of homes that have sprinklers. I am also glad you realize that loss of life by fire is low with
other industrialized nations. You can thank the modern fire departments that also include fire
prevention who enforce codes, and fire fighters who perform routine business inspections. Be safe,
and remember to change your batteries every six months and check your smoke detectors every month.
Bites,
You are my hero. I am proud that you can safe yourself, and you are one of the 3-5 percent with sprinklers in your home. I could not not even say I could safe myself in a fire, without my turnouts, airpack, fire engine to pump enough water to put fire out, and my crew performing ventilation. I could not get myself out of a vehicle that was involved in a accident causing the dash stuck on my legs. I could not save my loved ones in cardiac arrest without my monitor, and medication. One more time you are my hero, and I wish we had more heros like you to save people in need. What color is your cape?
So, some one tell me when getting a disease, infection, or some other type of job related disability became a job perk?