Sen. Harry Reid joins an energy executive roundtable during the third annual National Clean Energy Summit Tuesday at the Cox Pavilion on the UNLV campus.
Published Tuesday, Sept. 7, 2010 | 1:51 p.m.
Updated Tuesday, Sept. 7, 2010 | 8:44 p.m.
State leaders said Tuesday that clean energy jobs are the key to diversifying Nevada’s economy, but the next step is preparing a plan to make that happen.
“We can’t afford to farm these jobs out to other states when we are in the economic mess that we are in,” Nevada AFL-CIO Executive Secretary-Treasurer Danny Thompson said.
During a round-table panel at the third annual National Clean Energy Summit at UNLV, executives from local organizations such as the Nevada Commission on Economic Development, the Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce and Nevada State Office of Energy discussed how to bring clean energy jobs to Nevada.
UNLV President Neal Smatresk said he’s never seen such a significant result as he has in the last year in regards to diversifying Nevada’s economy, while others on the panel noted that Nevada has a long road ahead.
Matt Rogers, senior adviser to the U.S. secretary of energy, said he is most impressed by communities that pull together services and organizations like education, labor, and developers, so that it’s easier for companies to relocate. Rogers said states such as Nevada that are coveting clean energy jobs need to do just that.
Frank Woodbeck, a director with the Nevada Commission on Economic Development, said Nevada is already doing it.
“What we are creating in Nevada is the best environment for new businesses and an environment to attract new businesses to the state,” Woodbeck said.
This year’s National Clean Energy Summit drew about 750 attendees, but fewer big name speakers. Last year’s summit hosted former President Bill Clinton and former Vice President Al Gore.
Perhaps the most notable national name on this year’s speaker’s roster was oil billionaire and energy independence advocate T. Boone Pickens. Pickens joined Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and other leaders in a town hall discussion Tuesday afternoon.
Pickens discussed his Pickens Plan, which promotes a radical reduction in the U.S. dependency upon foreign energy, particularly oil provided by nations in the OPEC cartel in the Middle East.
Pickens said that the U.S. can become less dependent on foreign oil by switching to natural gas, which he said is 30 percent cleaner, abundant and already belongs to the U.S.
The issue of energy independence is not only an environmental issue but an issue of national security, Pickens said.
“If we cut the amount of oil we buy from OPEC in half, you are going to see the Taliban go down,” Pickens said.
Earlier in the day at the summit, Reid said he wants the addition of green energy jobs to be a driving force behind Nevada’s economy.
“We have to keep making Nevada the leader and engineer in clean energy. I’m more determined than ever to push for comprehensive Senate legislation to make sure we do that,” Reid said. “Our environment and national security depends on it and so does our economy.”
Reid noted this year’s summit falls on the 81st anniversary of the start of construction on Hoover Dam, the first project to put Nevada on the map for clean energy jobs.
Reid encouraged bipartisanship on energy issues and said the government needs to create more incentives for company’s to become more sustainable.
“Let’s do this because it’s the right thing to do, not because it’s politically the right thing to do,” he said. “We need to do what’s right and what’s necessary for tomorrow.”
While he said he shouldn't play favorites, Reid admitted MGM Resorts International is one of his favorite companies as he introduced its chairman and chief executive, Jim Murren.
“I’m so proud of CityCenter. They could have done it cheaper, but they wanted to do it the right way,” Reid said.
Murren returned the praise by saying the $8.5 billion resort complex, lauded as the largest single hiring opportunity in the country last year, could not have happened without Reid’s advocacy. The development created about 10,000 permanent jobs, Murren said.
“At its core, CityCenter is a green development,” Murren said, but added that CityCenter did not set out to become the country's largest green development.
The nearly 17 million-square-foot resort complex houses six LEED-certified facilities with gold rankings, making it the largest LEED-certified project in the country. CityCenter also received the U.S. Forest Stewardship Council’s award for best commercial project in 2009. In addition, Aria and Vdara are two of only three hotels in the world to receive top certification from Green Key, an organization that ranks hotels for their suitability initiatives.
Murren also touched on MGM Resorts' recycling efforts during his speech. He said Las Vegans recycle 16 percent of materials, while MGM Resorts recycles 25 percent of its materials. CityCenter recycles about 50 percent, he said.
Murren ended his speech will one final push for Reid.
“People who know me know that I’m a die-hard Republican, but I’m a Nevadan first and I know what’s good for Nevada is to bring Harry Reid home and get elected again in November,” Murren said.
NV Energy Chief Executive and President Michael Yackira said his company has given about $1 million in rebates for energy efficiency and conservation at CityCenter, the largest the company has given to date. He said NV Energy spent about $120 million on energy efficiency in 2008 and 2009.
One of NV Energy’s major efforts is adding new transmission lines and plants, Yackira said.
Its three-year, $298 million Advanced Service Delivery technology project, which will help to replace every electric meter in Nevada with a smart meter that will let customers direct energy use, will be complete by summer 2011. Yackira said the company will be hiring more than 200 employees for the project, which would bring more green jobs for the state.
In regards to renewable energy, Yackira noted that Nevada is No. 1 per capita in both installed geothermal and solar energy. Another of NV Energy’s projects will help to increase those efforts, Yackira said. NV Energy’s ON Line project will connect northern and southern service territories and will allow renewable resources to be delivered throughout the state. Construction will begin in November 2011 and will create about 400 jobs, Yackira said.
“The energy landscape is certainly changing throughout the United States," he said, "but Nevada is leading the way."







LOL....well of course he supports HARRY...he got City Center going again for MGM, but honestly, City Center hurt alot of Casinos in town on the strip, of course it took visitors from other places, we have less people and more rooms, not hard to figure out that City Center did hurt other properties.
Big wig Republican Jim Murren backs Reid..
Can t wait to hear what the Tea Party "people" are gonna say about that..
:-)
Of Course, Las Vegas would not be in a recession if Ronald Regan had not opened up Casino Style Gaming to the Indian Tribes & consequently the rest of the country. Where are all the stupid people that supported that move. We had sin & vice all locked up & we gave the key away!!!
Senator Reid can propose and be the head cheerleader for green energy all he wants, but the economy will not improve until there is a favorable business climate. That would mean cutting government, limiting all non-Defense spending and cutting taxes, but since the Democrats have control of the Congress and the Executive branch, neither of such would materialize.
Harry Reid has been a Senator in Nevada for more than 20 years. Where was all of the "Hate & Dislike" for him when Nevada was the 1st State to live in? Which caused so many people to relocate here?
I see, everyone loves you when you're on top! But, hate you and forget about you during trouble times and when you're on bottom. For all of you who have not lived in Nevada for more than 20 years, you have NO Idea of Mr. Reid's accomplishments! So why don't you GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM!!! Just get the H#LL Out of NEVADA.
Look closely at " Green Jobs". It take hundreds of skilled workers to build a standard power plant and then hundreds to run it. It only takes a few to build a solar generator and even less to run it. And those jobs don't pay any where what real power plant jobs pay.
In addition....Where do we get green power when the sun goes down????? Maybe hot air from Harry???
"They could have done it cheaper" your right Harry, according to their recent SEC filings MGM Resorts just wrote down the value of City Center from $8.5 billion to $2.5 billion. Isn't this the same Murren Reid bailed out of the City Center fiasco by arm twisting banks to float them high risk loans. Of course Murren wants Harry to win, he needs him in office to continue to support this money loser. If I remember right Murren came from the same Wall Street crowd that Harry bailed out with billions in your tax payer dollars. Politics and money make strange bedfellows.
@gbigs....You may just be the most ignorant person posting on these forums. You should take a remedial English course before you allow(Or Force!) the public to read your third grade level writing!
Harry Reid promotes xyz...Harry Reid discusses xyz...Harry Reid talks about xyz...Harry Reid produces nothing for xyz...
The only "green energy" Harry is interested in is that of the greenbacks flowing into his pockets.
These folks are really starting to scare me, they just seem so delusional, or at least so easily fooled by fear-mongers like Beck, Rush, etc. They have also developed some bizarre form of amnesia, totally eradicating the George W. Bush's two terms and all that came out of them, two wars in Iraq that have cost this country trillions with our mostly civilian forces there for 9+ years already, outrageous pharmaceutical deal for cost of medicines, tax cuts for the wealthy. They've also forgotten that it was George W. Bush $700 billion bailout proposal that went before Congress. They have found a way to erase the fact that the economy was bad with high unemployment when Bush was in office. The facts are meaningless to these folks.
It is one thing to have different views and opinions, most of us have always appreciated and celebrated that about America but I don't know how we as a nation bring these folks back to some form of reality, because this bizarreness just can't go unaddressed any longer - I believe they are truly harming this nation.
The members both Republican and Dem that have been in office blood sucking as Leeches off the American Public and destroying our country may fight in Public but have always been in each other's pockets and look out for each other.
Republican or Dem, they must be cleaned out with new blood sent to Washington or our country as we knew it is over. Oh the Fat Cats do not really care as they already have theirs.
This Nov give Nevada a chance and boot these lifers to the curb. Do not fall for all the bull of to Extreme because it is all bull.
You want extreme, look at Reid living high on the Hog as Nevada numbers in Unemployment are way extreme. How are your home prices?, was the drop extreme. The Financial Bill they crammed down our throats did nothing to fix Fannie & Freddie.
These Fat Cats that have been robbing you blind while destroying America as we know it do not care a thing for you and laugh at you behind closed doors as to how easy it is to BS you and lead you like sheep.
Boot these bloodsuckers to the curb and who cares what some Blood Sucker running MGM wants or thinks. Tell him he feels so much for Nevada to raise his employees wages to a living wage.
Again Vice President Dick Cheney had a "back-door closed meeting" in 2004 with several top Energy CEO's from around the world. We are definitely feeling the effects today, would you say?
Also, if America is for Deregulations of Government. Great, let's deregulate everything starting with:
Dept of Agriculture; Dept of Commerce; Dept of Defense; Dept of Energy; Dept of Health and Humans Services; Dept of Technology, Dept of Justice; Dept of Veterans Affairs;
Dept of (EPA) Environment Protection Agency
FAA-Federal Aviation Administration
FDA-Food and Drug Administration
FCC-Federal Communication Commission.
The list goes on. Let's De-REGULATE everything. Then we will have NO Government involvement and everyone will live happily-ever-after.
Sharron Angele + Tea Party+Palin+ Bush, Beck = Schizophrenia- is a serious mental illness characterized by a disintegration of the process of thinking and of emotional responsiveness.[1] It most commonly manifests as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking with significant social or occupational dysfunction
How can any working or unemployed person logically and reasonably vote for a Republican? Your are RIGHT! they have never lied to you. They are telling you what they will do:
Extend BUSH 10 Year Tax cut for the 2% of Americans who make over 1,000,000,000,000.00 per year = to Bill Gates, Oprah, Blumberg and Paris Hilton's parents money.
Terminate the -ARTS
Terminate the - THE HOMELESS SHELTER (Careful, many of you and myself may need one. I saw the Movie, "THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS."
Terminate - YOUR Legal hardworking Unemployment Benefits that YOU pay for while employed under FICA!
Terminate the DEPT OF EDUCATION, Your kids have no Education.
Terminate the DEPT OF ENERGY - We need more oil spills
Apologize to BIG OIL & GAS CO. BP "We are sorry that the President is making you PAY for your negligence and damages.
WIPE OUT SOCIAL SECURITY,
So American you will not only be HOMELESS, BROKE, UN-EDUCATED, But, the 2% will benefit from your lack of knowledge and intellect.
Sky 888 & Tony Crago,,,,You BOTH dont get it
Republican or Democrat.....out in November...no ,more business as usual...
"Where do we get green power when the sun goes down?????"
Wind, geothermal, bio-mass, ocean waves, and methane from garbage.
Since all the Republicans and Tea Parties HATE Government, why don't they do the following:
1. Do not accept any Social Security (if entitled)
2. Do not accept Medicare (if entitled)
3. Their children CAN NOT APPLY FOR FEDERAL LOANS FOR COLLEGE ( I forgot, they don't read)
4. Do not accept any FHA Loans
5. Do not accept any Unemployment Beneifts.
6. Do not fly on FAA Planes ( travel only in their cars or by horses) Like the "good-old-days" Remember?
7. Do not send your CHILDREN to public schools. (Enroll them with Rush, Hannity's and Beck's kids) after all, you guys can AFFORD the tuition???
Do not accept ANYTHING from the Federal Government. If you are a GOP or a Tea Party voters and are receiving ANY of the above Government Entitlement Programs. Give it UP. Send the MONEY BACK!
After all, that is what you want RIGHT???
They are already scaring me, sky888.
A lot of the same commenters here jump up and down and scream about where are the jobs. Now, here's Senator Reid addressing this issue, coming up with innovative ideas to diversify the economy, trying to work with local business leaders, the ones who will help get it going, and trying to generate interest in it. BUT THIS ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH!
And these same commenters back a party that has made it very clear that they...have no idea, no clue nor a plan on what to do. Sharron Angle, the darling of the Tea Party in Nevada, has already said it's not her job to find jobs for people. So, she's useless. And I see Senator Reid is out there trying to do something for Nevada, but where is the other Senator (Ensign)? Oh. Yeah. I forgot. He spends more time, effort and money on lawyers trying to ward off an investigation about his alleged ethics violations and/or potential corruption criminal charges.
I said once before and I'll say again...I WILL NOT vote for one single Republican here in Nevada. Not even for dog catcher. Because they'll even screw that up and blame it on Senator Reid if dogs and cats get loose.
The Republican Party of Nevada should be proud of Governor Gibbons, a man who will go down in Nevada political history as the very first incumbent Governor who was voted out by his own party, choosing not to want him for a second term. He is so useless he can't even figure out how to hide his girlfriend effectively in a Reno Airport bathroom away from the local press. I'm so glad he's gone. He now has more time to pursue a career molesting more cocktail waitresses in casino parking garages.
They screwed it up before. And it is guaranteed they will screw it up again. I intend to do my part by casting my vote and effectively slamming the door in their faces in November.
I Love You "Colin from Las Vegas" I can tell you have lived in Las Vegas for more than 20 years. What the H#LL do any of these people know? They did not grow up in Vegas during the 60s' or 70s' They don't have a CLUE regarding Senator Reid's record.
They moved here from EVERYWHERE in the Nation in the late 90s' and 2000s' and Think they know Nevada? Why don't they just leave! and take their (Charlie Mason's "eyes" Sharron Angle."
Give me a break!
MGM supports Democrats per Harry Reid's disclosure of supporters.
@lvcorvette:
Your "both sides are bad, vote Republican" rhetoric is transparent.
Jeez! there are some real haters out there! Here's my take on Harry Reid: He is one of the bravest politicians I have ever seen. He knew supporting the healthcare plan could be political suicide due to the right wing misanthropes who flood these comments. No matter what he does, he will be criticized by the right. They offer no alternative, just divisiveness. While they wrap themselves in the flag, they are the real traitors to our country.
Who cares about green jobs. How about ANY jobs. We'll take the non-green ones just as much as the green ones.
By Siromega
Sept. 7, 2010
lvcorvette:
Your "both sides are bad, vote Republican" rhetoric is transparent.
Sir :...There is nothing transparent..it is what I said BOTH parties OUT in NOV ! that plain that simple !
Reid and Gore needs to go to China and promote Green.
Since all the Republicans and Tea Parties HATE Government, why don't they do the following:
1. Do not accept any Social Security (if entitled)
GREAT..give me back what I put in !
2. Do not accept Medicare (if entitled)
Why dont you tell us who is entitled
3. Their children CAN NOT APPLY FOR FEDERAL LOANS FOR COLLEGE ( I forgot, they don't read)
well over 50% CANT read now !
4. Do not accept any FHA Loans
5. Do not accept any Unemployment Beneifts.
6. Do not fly on FAA Planes ( travel only in their cars or by horses) Like the "good-old-days" Remember?
7. Do not send your CHILDREN to public schools. (Enroll them with Rush, Hannity's and Beck's kids) after all, you guys can AFFORD the tuition???
Do not accept ANYTHING from the Federal Government. If you are a GOP or a Tea Party voters and are receiving ANY of the above Government Entitlement Programs. Give it UP. Send the MONEY BACK!
NO SEND my tax money back
After all, that is what you want RIGHT???
You just plain don't have a clue do you ?..just keep opening your wallet regardless of the amount with no clue of where the money is going or how it is spent...Nancy Pelosi needs to make $ 230,000 /yr WHY ?
By indigoken
Sept. 7, 2010
3:27 p.m
While they wrap themselves in the flag, they are the real traitors to our country
Traitor ? How dare you ! You KMGDA
Talk about short memories? Gbig's favorite president, George W Bush?
Under Bush, in 2008 ALONE:
Bush's $29 Billion bailout of Bear Sterns
Bush's $178 billion failed spring 2008 stimulus
Bush's $25 billion automaker bailout
Bush's $150 billion AIG bailout
Bush's $700 billion TARP bailout
Poor gbigs apparently was comatose, brain dead or had amnesia in 2008.
@indigoken: Great post! Willie K, gbigs and all the rest of the "Where do we get green power when the sun goes down" crew----that question gave me a good laugh, but also made me sad when I realized how truly uneducated and uninformed some of these folks are. Colin, Tony, Sky, Bobby: we gotta keep trying! Phone bank, knock on doors, talk to everyone you can----Sen. Reid will be re-elected!
sky888 your suggestions:
1. Do not accept any Social Security (if entitled)
2. Do not accept Medicare (if entitled)
3. Their children CAN NOT APPLY FOR FEDERAL LOANS FOR COLLEGE ( I forgot, they don't read)
4. Do not accept any FHA Loans
5. Do not accept any Unemployment Beneifts.
6. Do not fly on FAA Planes ( travel only in their cars or by horses) Like the "good-old-days" Remember?
7. Do not send your CHILDREN to public schools. (Enroll them with Rush, Hannity's and Beck's kids) after all, you guys can AFFORD the tuition???
These should be part of the "Tea Party Pledge" if they really believe in it. Well do ya Teabaggers? Lets have a Teabagger movement that is dedicated to their ideas. Common you teabaggers on this blog..pledge!
sky888,
I'm sure that there are some people who would like to take you up on those suggestions. There is one problem that gets in the way, taxes and FICA payroll deductions.
Since they have already paid for those services, it is their right to receive them.
Now if you wish to allow them to not pay any taxes nor contribute to SSI, as well as give them a refund for FICA contributions, you might have a viable proposition.
Sky888
Yo, who do you think you are? This is America and people can travel anywhere they want to and speak their mind on whatever issue they want. We are a free society. I've been here over half my life and for a person like you to tell them to leave is laughable. Maybe Reid did some good things many years ago, but he kinda lost it with Obama and Pelloci. Reid prevented E-verify wich would prevent illegals from certain employment. Why he do that? I'm not goi g anywhere
Hopefully, Dirty Harry will have a green job at the Searchlight McDonald's very soon.
You know it, peaceperson.
Contrary to right wingnut propaganda on this board, sanity does prevail in Nevada. Not tea.
The sane voters in Nevada DO NOT believe in the Flat Earth Society like some of these people that post stuff that defies credibility. We are actually informed and know what is going on. And I actually believe to my soul that the wingnuts that post here are actually NOT from Nevada, will NOT vote here, nor can they vote here in November. I say they WILL NOT effect any decisions here.
The reality of everything is local issues.
As a retired military veteran, I am adequately represented in the halls of power in Washington DC by Representative Titus and Senator Reid. I am NOT changing. Because they have shown that in word and deed that they represent my best interests.
We got rid of Sue Lowden and Governor Gibbons (courtesy of the sane Republican voters).
Not done yet though.
Next is to get rid of Angle and Heck in November.
After that, we still got work to do. We need to get rid of that pond scum Ensign. He REALLY, REALLY needs to be in line at an unemployment office. Because he is practically useless. He voted no on unmemployment bill, jobs bill, health care reform, financial bill, health care bill for 9/11 first responders, you name it...HE DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER BUTTON EXCEPT NO. That makes him useless. However we have to get rid of him, even if we have to wait til the next election, we need to do it. Senate ethics violations, corruption criminal charges, recall, would be even better, but however we can do it...let's can him!
I am so, so tired of Republicans all just looking at us and just waiting and hoping for us to roll over dead and give in. NO! It's not going to happen. We are fighting tooth and nail and they are not going to win and go back to idiocy. Ain't gonna happen.
If Harry had any brilliant ideas about what we should do, he should have announced it long before now. This dog and pony show is just politics as usual.
WOW! The Review Journal has a very scathing article on Sharron Angle, entitled "41 to Angle" recounting her state legislative record--
http://www.lvrj.com/news/-41-to-angle--1...
This is so Funny -- Harry Reid "'I had nothing to do with' bad economy"
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/...
You incompetent loser Reid -- Get the hell out of Washington you stupid incompetent fool. Harry Reid, do you really think people are stupid ?
You are GONE !!! Pack your bags today
Harry may or may not think people are stupid (but he probably does) but he does think they smell when they visit D.C. in the summer.
I hear Harry Reid doesn't think it fair that he is being bllamed for the sour economy. Well if he has to be graded for all the new jobs that have been created lately, Harry deserves an incomplete or failure because there aren't any new ones. And this "green dream" is only a dream.
Remember when you were a little kid exploring the woods and you found a pile of dog sh*t that was real old? It was hard and had turned white and looked like is was almost a fossil. That is what Nevada has in Harry Reid. It is unbelievable to me that the citizens of NV are even considering one vote for this joke of human being. Do you understand what this guy has done to your state and the country? What the hell is wrong with you people? At this point, the greatest contribution Harry can make to NV is to drain his body of water and soak a cactus.
@nolt-- He is coming out now with this crap because he knows he is in trouble and he is trying desperately to shift blame. Everyone knows he ran the Senate for the last 4 years and shoved terrible legislation down our throats we didn't want.
He will pay for his sins in November!!!
'I had nothing to do with the bad economy'
This denial is the most laughable one I've heard since John Giotti claimed to be the proprietor of a small pizza parlor in Passaic, NJ. "I dont know nuthin'' from the guy who's running touting his great influence in DC. It turns out that Mr. Majority Leader has been locked in the Senate bathroom for the last four years and didnt make a single decision that affected the economy at all! He just voted 'Present'. And Reid is the one calling Angle a nut! He must think Nevadans are pretty stupid if he thinks they'll buy this. Did this year's $1.5 trillion dollar deficit, four times the largest Bush deficit and seven times the deficit before the Dems took over Congress completely pass Harry 'The War Is Lost' Reid by? Did that affect the economy? It's bald-faced mendacity like this that will lose Reid this election. This desperate critter will say or do anything to keep his fangs in America's throat. Lets make sure he doesnt get the chance.
Oh give me a break liberals, I don't think most on either side understands the other or how they could not "see the light". I understand your opinions, I just disagree. I tended to side more with you until I actually ran a business and learned that people like Reid are bad for most businesses. I don't hate Harry, I just think he's immoral and moronic when it comes to understanding how businesses work. Green jobs cost 2-10 other jobs so the net effect is a loss of jobs, at least there are nice solar panels and wind turbines. I do like the energy but as far as positive job creation I don't think Reid really knows what he's doing and I truly think he wants people to have subsistence living with the government controlling things so he can keep us from harming ourselves while giving him more power.
Way to go Harry, green jobs are the wave of
the future and Nevada is the best place in the
country to promote green jobs.
Nevada has the most sunshine in the U.S., lets
take advantage of it.
Don't let COMMUNIST CHINA get the jump on us.
Ignore the ignorant, greedy party of NO on
this web-site, they want to keep living in
the stone age.
teamster,
Look at this story from April 28th of this year: http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/apr...
Harry is in bed with the Chinese.
Republicans are in bed with the Chinese.
These green jobs will be for Nevadans.
THANK YOU HARRY REID.
teamster,
It's bad enough that almost everything we buy is made in China, but now they will even own the company that manufactures the parts for the future you want! That story lays it out in plain view.
Nevadans working for the Chinese, buying goods made in China. And Harry Reid helped to make it possible.
That should turn your stomach. It does mine.
Harry had nothing to do with the economy, in fact he says so here
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/...
If anyone believes this, I have a bridge to sell you!
President Obama, Vice President Joe Biden,
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House
Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi are working very
hard to turn our economy aruond from the
disasterous mess that George Bush and the
republican party left our country.
These great people are doing a great job,
considering the mess the republicans made.
These green jobs are going to move our country
into the future.
We can't sit back and let other countries
leave us in the dust.
It's time for republicans to start helping
out too.
Teamster: you hit it exactly---the party of "NO" just wants to hold on to the ways of the past, while ignoring the technology and science necessary for the world to progress into the future. Unbelievable. Colin is correct: we are not going away, and we have to keep working to see that our country is not left in the hands of Glenn Beck loving extremists who are filled with hatred, and only know how to call names, instead of having a rational dialogue about differences.
@ gbigs: "kaos?"
@bookofdoubt--I'll take that bet, too!
The party of NO energy strikes again. The answer ain't blowin in the wind:
More bad news comes from the independent business intelligence service Wind Energy Update. The WEU's Wind Energy Operations & Maintenance Report found that current operation and maintenance (O&M) costs are two or three times higher than first projected and that there has been a 21% decrease in return on investments from wind farms. O&M costs were found to be especially high in the United States. The report states that while close to 80% of the world's wind turbines are still under warranty, "this is about to change." Ongoing wind turbine development is focusing on gearbox reliability: "Many gearboxes, designed for a 20-year life, are failing after six to eight years of operation."
Expensive, unreliable electricity won't produce jobs. Hasn't worked anywhere else its been tried. Tone-deaf, Harry?
http://www.windenergyupdate.com/operatio...
bookofdoubt...gbigs...nonopalehose...rustyswingset...
The WORLD IS GOING GREEN.
You and your "Big Oil" Buddies are going green.
Kelly freaking GREEN!!!
There IS NO "ALTERNATIVE"...
For long-term survival.
Listen, it's okay...it's the color of MONEY!!!
CLEEEEEAN. GREEEEAN.
http://www.green-energy-news.com/
Nuclear Suppository in Gbigs' back yard !
somone please gag gbigs. stfu please u post like 4 things in a row and u just cant put it in one freekin box.for real ? and where do you get you logic i would love to know. you have just topped enviorprotecter or whatever his name is as the most annoying person on here. GET A FREEKIN LIFE .
HERE IS AN IDEA; let's follow Spain in clean energy, they have been front and center, and now that they have 20% UNEMPLOYEMENT and learned that every GREEN JOB destroyed 2 REAL JOBS, they are changing their mind.
Now the nice thing about today is NEVER IN MAN'S HISTORY HAS SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE BEEN SO FREELY AVAILABLE TO SO MANY.
For those too dumb to understand; here is the lesson; EXPERIENCE IS THE BEST TEACHER
Only today fortunately for those with 2 brain cells to rub together, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
Harry Reid is a failure. He has totally screwed this state for years to come. A career politician that has forgot about where he came from and the people he is suposed to be representing. DUMP REID!
"One clean energy job will replace two soldiers, two gun makers, two bomb builders and eight casket builders. Awful impact. Dreadful. Four oil clean-up workers. One Brit who would loik his loif back."
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The weed is particularly good today, eh airweare?
I can pick apart every one of the below.
look dude - cut all spending 15 percent.
cap all Fed and State pensions at 40k ( is that ok? )
Oh - have your congress pass a Federal Budget -- PLEASE...
I know they intend to raise the ceiling another 1 trillion
after the election ( lame duck ) .
Oh and lets talk about the health bill. remember.
suppose to reduce the deficit by 200 billion?
well - the new figs from the white house actually show a Deficit
of 300 billion - so far - on a growth rate of 7 percent GDP.
good luck hitting that mark.
you lie and should be ashamed.
Born lier
sky888 your suggestions:
1. Do not accept any Social Security (if entitled)
2. Do not accept Medicare (if entitled)
3. Their children CAN NOT APPLY FOR FEDERAL LOANS FOR COLLEGE ( I forgot, they don't read)
4. Do not accept any FHA Loans
5. Do not accept any Unemployment Beneifts.
6. Do not fly on FAA Planes ( travel only in their cars or by horses) Like the "good-old-days" Remember?
7. Do not send your CHILDREN to public schools. (Enroll them with Rush, Hannity's and Beck's kids) after all, you guys can AFFORD the tuition???
These should be part of the "Tea Party Pledge" if they really believe in it. Well do ya Teabaggers? Lets have a Teabagger movement that is dedicated to their ideas. Common you teabaggers on this blog..pledge!
It seems that we want green jobs but what we may not want is that politicians will pick the winners and losers in the game. I always look for what is not said in various things. Like the ad for green power that I see on TV lately. They say that prices will be more consistent. Not lower. Not the same as today. Only more consistent. That says that prices will go up significantly but they will not tend to move around as much. People I know in areas that have significant green energy requirements have seen it because you are now paying for two generation facilities, the green one and the brown one to provide power when the green one does not. Or eventually you will have the green one and the power storage facility for when the green one cannot provide power. So, not only is it more expensive power typically, but you have that other extra cost. That said, if people want that, then we should have it. And kudos to the President who said at one point that Cap and Trade would cause energy prices to necessarily skyrocket. I don't like the higher prices but I wholeheartedly appreciate the honesty.
And I saw the head of Exelon Generation Company on TV talking about the fact that they were buying John Deere's wind farm project for $900M. Exelon is know for being in the nuclear power business as well as other generation technologies. It was interesting that the statement was made that it was government subsidies that made wind a viable business. (It is true that without subsidies nuclear doe not appear to be viable in this country.) So, not only do you pay in your power bill but you are paying through your taxes as well. Hopefully people are making informed choices about this and I like the utility companies that offer a green power option where the consumer can opt to buy green power and the utility then commits to buy at least those amounts from green sources. Then people are making the choice for the higher costs and supporting the projects with their eyes wide open.
Harry needs a voter imposed vacation.
Vote Harry into vacation.
Vote agaisnt Harry come November.
He's never here (in Las Vegas) anyway...
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is trying to bring in green industries to create jobs in Nevada while Sharron Fraud Angle is NOT interested at all about the job prospects of people in Nevada.
Clear choice for the SANE voters of Nevada come election time. Send Fraud Angle back home.
Bravo Repukeblicans!!!!!
Great Reid, raise our power bills even more.. Dummy, just go away!
Nothing is his fault...
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/...
This is what Nevada needs to do and Senator Reid is leading the way. While Sharron Angle states "It's not my job to get jobs for Nevada". At least something is coming here and it will help. More is needed and it is smart for Nevada to go in this direction. Clean energy with diversified jobs in Nevada.
Any rational, logical and mentality function human being who votes for Sharron Angel on November 2nd needs to seek psychiatric counseling.
Sharron Angle's VOTING RECORD is something right of "Silence Of The Lambs" and her weird "Charlie Mason" EYES with that empty stare gives me the chills.
gbigs: yes the solar MAYBE more expensive now but in the end it will get cheap because NV Energy does not have to replace oil and Southwest Gas maybe changed to something else. As for Yucca, that will be a storage only facility. Show me a way of recycling nuke power where we can benefit and help the environment and create jobs. If you can do that with specifics and it will have to have lots of safety measures and the cost is on the stockholders of the nuke plants, I believe I can go along with you. But; just a storage site? NO!
Hi, I am Sharron A$$, Oh, sorry- I mean Angle and I want to be your S-e-n-t A-c-t-or. Oh, I sorry,- I mean Senator. For the dazed, delusional and mentality impaired followers who voted for me, I want to say "Tea you." Oh, I sorry, I mean Thank you.
For the studious Americans who voted for Harry Reid, who beat me in this Election, I want to say:
I knew you would see through my irrational mental state of being a bad S-e-n-t A-C-T-OR. Next time, I will Scare at you harder with my "Charlie Mason" EYES!
boftx writes:
"Harry may or may not think people are stupid (but he probably does) but he does think they smell when they visit D.C. in the summer."
That's an astute observation, boftx.
Hey, you're in good company with your tea bagger friends--fighting against clean energy, fighting against global warming science, and helping pollute the planet.
Here is who you are helping out with your comments--a couple of oil billionaires behind the Tea Party:
The billionaire Koch brothers, who own the second largest private corporation in America. They hope to deregulate as much of American industry as possible through their Tea Party movement, funding for the Cato Institute, etc. They also hope to squash the EPA and destroy all science that supports global warming, because they will save more money that way. Rupert Murdoch pretty much single-handedly created the "mosque at Ground Zero" story. The Koch brothers do the rest. A nice couple of fellas:
From the New Yorker:
"The Kochs are longtime libertarians who believe in drastically lower personal and corporate taxes, minimal social services for the needy, and much less oversight of industry--especially environmental regulation. These views dovetail with the brothers' corporate interests. In a study released this spring, the University of Massachusetts at Amherst's Political Economy Research Institute named Koch Industries one of the top ten air polluters in the United States. And Greenpeace issued a report identifying the company as a "kingpin of climate science denial." The report showed that, from 2005 to 2008, the Kochs vastly outdid ExxonMobil in giving money to organizations fighting legislation related to climate change, underwriting a huge network of foundations, think tanks, and political front groups. Indeed, the brothers have funded opposition campaigns against so many Obama Administration policies--from health-care reform to the economic-stimulus program--that, in political circles, their ideological network is known as the Kochtopus..."What they don't say is that, in part, this is a grassroots citizens' movement brought to you by a bunch of oil billionaires."
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/...
http://www.propublica.org/blog/item/comp...
The Tea Partiers should be proud.
AP
AP, Greenpeace? LOL, i'd count that as a plus whenever an anti-human org had something bad to say about someone.
http://vimeo.com/14425309
Antiwignut: "Just out of curiosity, though, why do you prefer Borders over Barnes & Noble?"
He prefers the bookstore where he would find obscure titles, such as the one authored by Rev. Terry Jones.
The movie "The Border" starring Jack Nicholson and Harvey Keitel, 1982, is still relevant. (Not entirely off-topic in light of Sheriff Joe Arpaio's alignment with Mrs. Angle. He and she will speak at the National Tea Party Convention in October, here.) I wish they would "sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here." (Jack Nicholson, As Good As It Gets.)
ohcalcuttagirl: " For those too dumb to understand; here is the lesson; EXPERIENCE IS THE BEST TEACHER"
Oh, excuuuuuuuuuuse me. You mean, the best teacher is not Mrs. Angle?
rusty57: AP, Greenpeace? LOL, i'd count that as a plus whenever an anti-human org had something bad to say about someone.
Oh, right, Greenpeace is anti-human. The real anti-humans are the polluters and destroyers of the earth, like the Koch brothers. Do you think you will escape the destruction? Are you one of those multi-millionaires who are buying tickets on that spaceship they think will save them?
Harry Reid is doing a fantastic job.
Harry Reid out works all republicans.
Green jobs will help save our country.
SAVE OUR COUNTRY,
VOTE HARRY REID.
rusty57.....
Keep living in the stone-age.
We Democrats already left you fools in the dust.
Lots of Laughing! I can't believe all of the people who think that giving Tax Payer dollars to big energy corporations is going to reduce your electricity bill.
NEWSFLASH: Your Electricity Bill will still go up and the Energy Company is going to make EVEN MORE Money with your Taxpayer Dollars!!!!
Teamsters remind me of dinosaurs mating.
"Patrick Moore, a co-founder of the radical environmental group Greenpeace, long since has abandoned extremist ways in favor of seeking conventional solutions to the often-conflicting demands for timber products and environmental preservation. In a statement picked up by the Nanny Culture.com Website, Moore laments that the movement he helped launch now has no room for people of all political persuasions and has "taken a sharp turn to the ultra-left, ushering in a mood of extremism and intolerance."
Bluejeans: Actually the air and the water have gotten cleaner over the years. Even during Bush's "rape of the environment".
We could use a few less eco-drama queens such as yourself.
JustanOguy: There was a notice in my last Nevada Energy bill: rate decrease starts in October.
rusty57: Caring about the earth does not make me an eco-drama queen. Get the rust out of your brain.
rusty57: tell that to the water table at Lake Mead. It maybe clean(that's debatable) but it is very low and its getting lower. And have you noticed the summers getting hotter here and in this country and Canada? Glaciers where our water comes from are little or non-exsistant now. No global warming? You maybe in denial but this problem is right under your nose. You can use all the reteric you want but the facts prove we are in trouble. If the left is being extreme, its because no one wants to deal with our consumption and greed with constructive new ideas. If it wasn't for the left, we wouldn't have what little has been done, like in new cars. OIL keeps burning or have you forgotton the Gulf disaster to families and the environment already.
Bluejean: I suppose green energy will make you "feel good" despite the cost. Try getting a brain.
Quoyn520: Check out the admission on satellite temperature data being 'degraded'. Maybe you should do a little research on the global warming scam first before accepting anecdotal evidence or claiming anyone is in 'denial'.
http://climatechangedispatch.com/climate...
rusty57:
Nothing you say will gain my vote or sympathy for antediluvians such as Mrs. Angle and yourself.
Bluejean, check out the satellite data if you have any sort intellectual curiosity left. Otherwise enjoy your mindless indoctrination.
rusty57:
"Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change." "I hope intelligent life exists in the Universe. There's not much sign of it on earth."
-- Stephen W. Hawking
My intellectual curiosity is just fine. As for "mindless indoctrination", I'm not wasting time on that senseless remark.