Illegal immigration declines with tighter border security, fewer jobs
Thursday, Sept. 2, 2010 | 2:05 a.m.
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The number of illegal immigrants in the United States and Nevada has dropped significantly in recent years, according to a new report.
The report, released Wednesday by the Pew Hispanic Center, an independent research group, says the number of immigrants estimated to be illegally entering the United States has dropped by nearly two-thirds.
The change has led to an 8 percent decrease in the number of unauthorized immigrants living in the country, from a high of 12 million in March 2007 to 11.1 million in March 2009.
States in the Southwest and Southeast had the largest declines in their unauthorized immigrant populations, with Nevada, Florida and Virginia experiencing decreases statistically large enough to be significant on their own, the report said.
Nevada’s population of illegal immigrants decreased by 50,000 from 2008 to 2009, the report says. The state had an estimated unauthorized immigrant population of 180,000 in 2009.
Illegal immigrants make up 6.8 percent of Nevada’s population, putting it just behind California, where they represent 6.9 percent of the population.
Illegal immigrants also make up a higher share of the labor force in Nevada than in any other state, according to the report.
Illegal immigrants account for 9.4 percent of Nevada’s labor force. In California, it is 9.3 percent.
The Pew report, based on an analysis of census data, says that while illegal immigration has fallen in recent years, the number of unauthorized immigrants in the nation was nearly a third larger in 2009 than in 2000 and three times as large as in 1990.
Otto Merida, the president of the Las Vegas Latin Chamber of Commerce, said he has noticed decrease in the number of Hispanics.
The shrinking population, he said, is likely a result of the combination of increased border enforcement, employers checking applicant’s legal status and the economy.
“The measures that were taken at the border are a little bit more effective than in the past. They’re making it more difficult for people to cross the border,” he said. “It’s getting to be more difficult and then, at the same time, jobs are very scarce.”
Merida said the unemployment rate in the Hispanic community is probably higher than it is for the general population, despite people leaving to find jobs other places.
“People have left town. They have gone not only to Mexico but perhaps to other states where they might find more opportunities,” he said.
While the result is fewer people are applying for each job opening, the larger impact is a negative one on the local economy, Merida said.
“There are less people using services, going to restaurants, going to the movies, going to all the things that any person would do,” he said. “There is less money here circulating, so it does have an economic impact in Southern Nevada.”
UNLV Boyd School of Law Professor Sylvia Lazos, who is co-director of the Research Center for Social Justice and has studied the local Hispanic community, also said a decrease in the immigrant population impacts the economy.
“Certainly immigrants were providing a lot of consumption locally, and I think we’re seeing a lot of local businesses struggling that were based on consumption,” she said. “Because we are contracting, that consumption is not there anymore. You see a lot of empty apartments as well.”
John Tuman, the chair of UNLV’s political science department and director of the Latin American Studies Program, also said the loss of immigrants has contributed to Southern Nevada’s sluggish economy.
“The fact that it seems to be taking us longer to recover compared to nearly every other state is partially related to what’s been happening in the adjustment here and the out-migration,” he said.
But that out-migration is not necessarily the result of stepped-up enforcement, the professors said.
“Economic factors are more important than the enforcement,” Tuman said.
Immigrants typically focus on places where jobs are available and where they have a support network of family and friends, Lazos said.
Las Vegas was especially attractive to immigrants because of its formerly booming construction industry, she said.
“We know many immigrants were employed around the construction industry, and we know the construction industry here has basically crashed,” Lazos said.
Immigrants, both authorized and unauthorized, were especially consolidated in the housing and light industrial segments of the construction industry, and those are areas that have been hardest hit here, Tuman said.
Many immigrants tried to hang on in Las Vegas and the U.S. as long as they could, because economic problems in their home countries meant things were no better there, Tuman said.
“Initially, the outflows were to other states, but there has actually been migration back to Mexico,” he said.
And it’s likely those immigrants won’t be returning until jobs come back, Lazos said.
“Construction is probably not going to come back the way that it did before, so I think that would also indicate that we have probably seen the heyday of immigrant population in Las Vegas come and go,” she said.
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Quote: "Illegal immigrants also make up a higher share of the labor force in Nevada than any other state..." Gee I wonder why then Nevada, specifically LV, has one of the highest, if not the highest unemployment rate in the nation?
Also what Kyle Hanson seems to have left out (intentionally?) from the original AP article this Sun article is based on entitled "Number of illegal immigrants in US now declining" by Hope Yen is that the Pew Research Center also stated that "The unemployment rate for illegal immigrants in March 2009 was 10.4%". How does the Pew Research Center come up with this number if illegal immigrants are not eligible for unemployment benefits, and the US Census does not ask immigration status? Oh yes, "by subtracting the estimated legal immigrant population from the total foreign-born population... It is a method that has been used by the government and Pew for many years and is generally accepted. " So how is it that the Pew Research Center can look at a person and know they are foreign-born, but not legal or illegal? Or is it legal to ask a person if they are "foreign-born" but not legal to ask if they are legal or illegal citizens?
Sympathy for illegal immigrants who have no rights in this country above and beyond legal US citizens, other than basic human rights of human deportaion back to their country of citizenship (which does not entitle them to break our laws), is the point of this article and the AP article. While there "may" be a decline of illegal immigrants coming into this country, there are still an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in this country.
BTW, I have a question for Kyle. If it is estimated that 6.3% of Nevada's workforce are illegal, then what is the estimated percentage of the entire population of Nevada that is illegal? Humm? Don't mention that statistic do you?
"BTW, I have a question for Kyle. If it is estimated that 6.3% of Nevada's workforce are illegal, then what is the estimated percentage of the entire population of Nevada that is illegal? Humm? Don't mention that statistic do you?"
He does....he says:
"Illegal immigrants make up 6.8 percent of Nevada's population, putting it just behind California, where they represent 6.9 percent of the population.|
The reason the illegal immigrants is down is so such a simple solution. Its because we are in a recession. Once the economy picks up they will be back by the bus loads. Thanks Mexico for making your country so crappy.
I think we are losing more citizens here in Clark County than illegal immigrants. With the illegals leaving Arizona because of their new immigration laws you know we have more coming to our county.
If the population is down here in Clark County why are they wanting to raise taxes for the school district? It is said that it takes 2 to 3 times more of our tax money to educate a student that doesn't speak english. The more citizens moving out because of no work, of course they take their families with them , right? Which means there is less children in the school district, Right? Why is CCSD, in Rory's words, needing a million $ more to make our school system work?
A picture is worth 1,000 words. The pictures the sun has been printing in their media at elementary schools with some of their articles shows just about every child in their pictures at schools are hispanic. I'm sure they will have some good explanation for this.
Because of the Supreme Court case in Texas settled in 1982,Plyler v. Doe, any child, no matter what country they come from has a right to our funded education. Since education falls under our counties responsibilities, it is up to the citizens to pay for the illegals education.
Huh, American families taking their kids and leaving town, 1 million $ more for educating the children, pictures at elementary schools depicting more hispanic children than caucasian children, what's wrong with this picture?
[...] tighter border security, fewer jobs [...]
Thank you Jan Brewer and Barack Obama, respectively
At this rate of decline, we can save the fed some money by closing ICE, as it is apparent they dont do anything. Nevada is a sanctuary state, we just dont announce it. VOTE OUT THE INCUMBENTS AND KEEP DOING SO UNTIL WE GET IT RIGHT. ENFORCE OUR LAWS, ALL LAWS, not just the ones we want.
We now know how Mexico deals with Criminal invaders. 72 dead that we know of.
Our "LEADERS" are too busy destroying the country to enforce the law.
it looks like if we made hiring illegals, illegal, that our unemployment rate would correct itself immediatly (down to less than 5% instantly)....taking much pressure off of our governments budgets and social services.
NoVaseline, it is illegal, it's just not enforced and the Speaker of the House believes it's un-American to enforce those laws.
Construction is probably not going to come back the way that it did before, THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FACT IN THIS ARTICLE PEOPLE . WE NEED TO DIVERSIFY OUR ECONOMY . Blaming Harry Reid and the undocumented will not bring prosperity back to Nevada . we need more manufacturing here . we don't produce much of anything to sell to the rest of the world .
@ wedo
You are correct that blaming Harry Reid will not bring prosperity back to Nevada. Unfortunately re-electing Harry Reid will not bring prosperity back either.
Nevada needs to take advantage of what it has, not what it wishes it had. Vast areas for Solar power, Yucca Mountain and yes dare I say plenty of room for nuclear power too.
You conservatives, libertarians and Tea Party people sound like a broken record. 'Oh, if there weren't no illegals, I would be working.' Yes, exactly, because that $5/hr job mopping floors at KFC was your dream job. Give me a break. If you lose a job to an illegal, that says more about your skills/abilities as a job candidate. Be outraged at yourself.
The fact is that a local economy like Las Vegas are the last to rebound because structurally it's unsound- thanks to mining not paying taxes essentially, no state income tax, and an uneducated workforce with little to no advanced training. It's a service economy. Look around the country and see which local economies are hardest hit.
Finally, clamp down on the thousands of employers hiring these people. I still see to this day construction sites with many Mexican workers- perhaps not all are illegal, but I'm almost sure many are.
So again, if you're complaining about an illegal taking your job, be mad at yourself.
I don't believe this article or any articles that say the illegal immigrants are fewer. I believe they say this for us to believe or think that the Arizona law is not really needed because the illegals are not as bad as Arizona says. I think it is all political. News reports say different that becuase of the drug activities going on in Mexico families are leaving in droves this is why I don't believe this article. I know when I go to the stores there is nothing but hispanic mumbling. This paper I am sure is a liberal paper and on the side of our current administration.
Steele,
The answers to your questions are in the article.
Illegal immigrants make up 6.8 percent of Nevada's population.
Illegal immigrants account for 9.4 percent of Nevada's labor force.
If Nevada would make E-Verify mandatory then much of unemployment would be taken care of.
Maybe it needs to be put to a vote of the people. The problem is getting the people off their computers and out to vote.
As long as casinos and hotels are allowed to hire illegals, they will keep coming here. It's easy, fine the employers that are hiring them.
The "I'm-a-grunts" were helping to drive up real estate values. Legal, illegal etc. They helped push up the values.
A number of the libertarians and Republican corporate "kiss-ups" want open borders immigration, like teaparty fake DICK ARMY.
Americans for Prosperity (for the Rich) and Freedumb Works are phony asstro turf open border, cheap labor, outfits.
See where the Koch Bros are applying for healthcare subsidies (as well as the State of Nevada) made possible by the new healthcare bill?
Illegals making up 10 % of a work force anywhere is a embarrasment to that country and its laws.
10 % underground economy - worse than third world eceonomies...
Shame on our government !!!
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Why can an agency determine the number of illegals, but the Fed can't find them? Just sayin'!
The argument that mexicans do the work we Americans will not lower our selves to is a lie!
It is true that I am not going to look for a dishwasher or laborer job but my two children, one in high school and the other in college would take a dishwasher job or any job...just like Dad did back in the day!
As for the mexican "consumption" theory, LOL. My kids will not send any money back to mexico, but they will spend money (all their money, right now all my money) right here in the good old USA!
Every legal citizen entering the workforce has a right to find an entry level job to at least maintain themselves econimically on the bottom rungs of the ladder temporarily.When that rung is filled with illegals,that citizen must jump a little higher to grasp that next rung.That rung may bee quite crowded too with illegals.Why do we expect our own citizens to leaofrog the illegals,who already is gaing valueable expierience in front of the new inexpierienced citizen? It's time to sweep the ladder clean of those who don't belong there,and allow our own citizens an ability to at least have a firm grip on the bottom rung!Must be pretty bad here if illegals are going home to the failed state of Mexico instead of staying to compete with fellow job stealers!
@Axion
While I agree with much of what you say I disagree about state income taxes. You said,"Look around the country and see which local economies are hardest hit." That would be New York, New Jersey, Michigan and California which have the highest state income tax in the country. State income tax is not the answer.
I don't believe you. Check out any parking lot outside a home improvement or nursery for the south of the border illegal aliens. Then again, check any office or business where you work or do business for the non-hispanic illegal aliens taking good jobs away from you and America's young adults. Just because these illegals are white, black or asian doesn't make them any less illegal.
Las Vegas was especially attractive to immigrants because of its formerly booming construction industry, she said.
"We know many immigrants were employed around the construction industry, and we know the construction industry here has basically crashed," Lazos said.
I guess when Harry Reid said there are no illegals working construction in Nevada.....he meant because NOBODY, legal or illegal, is working construction in Nevada now.
Medted, ask Mr. Obama why he won't enforce our immigration laws.
Axiom, go down to the Airport Expansion jobsite on Russell Rd. west of Eastern at quiting time. Every body walking out to their cars are union, one way or another. Now watch, how many hispanic workers do you see. Alot right? Now listen, Spanish right?
The Hotels ,Casinos, etc. it is not just the low wage no skill jobs, it is those jobs and union work. Don't fool yourself that it's only dishwasher jobs and lowscale jobs.
Our lowscale jobs,burger joints etc. should be there for our young people and they to are taken by illegals also..
THESE ILLEGAL ALIEN TYPES SEND *BILLIONS* OF DOLLARS BACK TO THEIR HOME COUNTRIES.
Billions.
While WE pay for THEIR anchor baby offspring's education, THEIR healthcare, THEIR emergency services costs, THEIR food stamp and welfare costs, THEIR incarceration costs.
Don't hand me this dung about 'how they help the economy'......
It amazes me the commenters who come out and just say something generally to the effect that, "If we just enacted one more onerous piece of legislation establishing one more arcane rule system on taxpaying Americans that would solve the problem." As if the mere passage of the legislation would miraculously curb all skullduggery. Government is the problem, not the solution. We have laws on the books now that will resolve the issue. Let's enforce them first and then if we cannot achieve sufficient compliance we'll consider alternatives.
The article doesn't fully address immigration nor does it intend to point out that illegal immigrants are at fault for the current economic conditions. Let's rethink this a bit and acknowledge that many outsiders whether legal or not (tourists, illegal immigrants, foreign workers, and out-of-state residents) contribute to the economy of Nevada thru hotels, gambling and other revenue generating forms of entertainment. While it's easy to say that illegal aliens are taking some jobs away, they are taking jobs that require either long working hours and yet many are opting to return to their home countries. The reason is the bust in the housing and construction that used to create ample job opportunities for everyone. The current state of the economy is the one driving poor labor market conditions. In turn, its large corporations that have driven this lamentable economic state through poor mortgage underwriting and credit that was way too risky and unaffordable to many. In turn, Wall Street capitalized on this and made bets thinking that home prices would never go down, except they did. The U.S. government never took preventative action towards this and has failed to change policy which affects our overall economy. Clearly, we are also facing lack of federal government action when it comes to regulating and fighting back illegal immigration. Without strong policies in place, you can't blame illegals. You need to promote politicians that will embrace and draft new policies that will improve and create sustainable business conditions that will satisfy the residents of this country. Having said that, it's the federal government that requires an overhaul and local communities to speak up and voice their true concerns. Nevada lacks diversity in the form of business industries. The vast majority of job creation lies in small businesses. Therefore, small business startups can dramatically improve local economic conditions. Let's tell the banks to start lending money, stop hoarding cash and ask Washington to be proactive of its policies.
@wedo We DO NOT need to diversify the economy, that is the LIE Harry Reid and the other Destroy Nevada clowns have floated now for 3 decades and look at this place.
Gambling is massive and these clowns have made damn sure our share of that market is lessened and the benefits collected outside our State borders. Nevada Gaming revenues are in the tank largely because OUR money is being played all over hell and back like the Calli Indian joints for one.
Las Vegas is what it is, trying to make it into a "normal" city was wrong 30 years ago, and it is completely wrong in 2010. If you doubt this, just ask a tourist what they want.
I do not care about education, transit systems, water canals, Opera Houses, Convention space or Timeshares unless it does one thing...increase gaming revenues the lifeblood of Las Vegas. This is NOT a place to raise kids it is a place to shoot craps.
Thank You Very Much.
I will be 91 years old, soon. I have seen many generations. I remember when the Irish immigrants, and the Italians, and the Blacks were blamed for America's problems.
Why can't Harry just legalize them? That way they can collect unemployment AND work under the table.
I agree with those that point out that if we can pinpoint that 10% of the workforce is illegal, the Feds should be able to find these people. I'm surprised that the State would admit to giving illegals unemployment--what is that about???? I agree with the mom that the teenagers would take the dishwasher and other menial jobs and spend their money here in the US--in fact, I would bet that there are adults who would take those menial jobs. I do not believe that we should have open borders. I do not believe that we should give illegals any kind of assistance. I believe that we should give illegals a choice: let us place your child born here in a foster home and you go back to wherever or you take the child with you. I do believe that we should eliminate the law that any child born here is automatically a citizen. This does not happen in other countries. I support Arizona because you and I have to identify ourselves to get a job, open any kind of account, etc.; so why can't everyone agree to identify themselves as a legal resident of the US? I know that illegals have voted in this country. This is a travesty. That is a privilege that should be protected for those who are citizens, and we should have to provide proof of citizenship in order to vote--I would happily do that. I could go on and on, but I think I have said enough.
Maybe so TravisM...the difference now is we have to pay for free school breakfasts and lunches, section 8 housing, free medical, anchor babies, welfare, unending enemployment benefits, food stamps, daycare subsidies, WIC. The list goes on and on. And yes the illegals do get these services because they buy fake social security cards and documents.
Your generation did not have any of these freebies so you were not paying for them.
The Irish and Italians did arrive in this country legally by boat through Ellis Island. The blemish of slavery is still very much sore on the American consciousness. These immigrants gladly learned the english language. They did not wave their homeland flag in protest against american laws on american soil. During World War I and World War II they fought against their ancestrial homelands.
Cartieda:I agree with everything u say except that Wall St. didn't really care if the price of houses went down or not,they had already bundeled these mortgages into securities and sold them off to your pension fund and401k to take the hit!
gbigs is right about them being released. "It comes amid a push by ICE to focus on illegal immigrants who have committed crimes, rather than seek to deport all illegal immigrants. Officials say that the shift is needed to reduce massive clogs in the nation's immigration courts - where detainees wait for months or years before their cases are decided - and to use deportation as a tool for public safety." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...
"The change has led to an 8 percent decrease in the number of unauthorized immigrants living in the country, from a high of 12 million in March 2007 to 11.1 million in March 2009. Nevada's population of illegal immigrants decreased by 50,000 from 2008 to 2009, the report says."
So, under Obama, the number of illegals has decreased. Isn't that what you wanted?
"So, under Obama, the number of illegals has decreased. Isn't that what you wanted?" - bg
Obama's policy of taking away jobs from illegals clearly is working. Unfortunately the real policy was to create jobs without regard to status and THAT is a dismal failure. He has taken jobs away from US citizens as well, this is merely a side-effect.
But one thing this does show: if we enforce employment laws, and make greater use of E-verify to deny jobs to illegal workers, they WILL leave or not come here in the first place.
Get a clue, Harry!
The report by Pew Hispanic Center is just a ploy to quiet the increasingly demanding voices against illegal aliens. Nothing more. Anyone that believes this report is more than just naive.
Big surprise that Miguel Flores hasn't chimed in yet. Could it be that he was one of the fifty thousand that left Nevada and went back to Mexico?
"AND it's gotten better - under a Democratic President! Oh the irony :)" - TonyCrago
The only reason this problem might be "better" is because our job markets have collapsed! The job market is so bad, that even the illegals no longer want to come here.
But you're right, it is a Democratic President in the White House now.
TonyCrago... You left out a word in your second sentence. It's "illegal" immigrants.
BTW, how long have you been in the US?
once the economy turns around even more of them will be coming across the border.
I love it!
There's been all these stories about how illegal immigration is hurting the United States, and hurting Nevada, and all of the neo-con posters on these blogs all cry all day long about Harry Reid and Barack Obama being soft on immigration. Now, an article like this comes out, and all the same people are on the same blogs STILL talking down Obama and Reid!
This makes absolutely no sense. The Obama Admin is deporting more illegals than his predecessor, and has furnished more National Guard to the border than his predecessor. With all of this, the neo-cons still won't give any credit.
Way to be open minded guys, you obviously only want the best for America, regardless of which political party is responsible. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Tico_Suave you seem to believe everything you hear. Learn to be selective and investigate a little more. You'll be amazed at what you find.
That's right, we should vote in all of the Republicans so they can finish what Bush started - the demise of America! Then when our economy is finally worse than Mexico it will be their turn to capture and deport Americans!
Illegals take jobs that we citizens can't do(physically hard & cheap) or won't do(dirty, hot, & cheap) They have moved on along with the high end tech jobs to other recovering states. What is left is the unemployed & seniors. We need to have more jobs here in Las Vegas so we can keep what is left we have. This is not Harry Reid's fault. This is the 6 big banks(Citi,Chase,BofA,HSBC,Wells Fargo,&Sachs) They sit on a fortune waiting for us to colapse so you wingnuts vote out the democrats. And the tea party falls into their laps backed by the Koch brothers & Dick Army. Palin(their lacky) kisses them and pretends she is helping us. At least Senator Reid has saved 22,000 at City Center, VA hospital is here, wind plant is coming. These jobs are not for illegals and are not getting them. Where is Ensign? What has he done? Set up Uganda to kill gays in the name of Christ, broke federal laws, and broke his vows. And Angle? She was a force in the state gov't for schools. What did she do? Take uniforms away because they are evil and keep teens poor and pregnet, while Nevada schools are at the bottom. It is not Harry Reid for the school drop out. It is Sharron Angle. Know your history wingnuts. What are some solutions to get back to work. Voting Angle is a "no" vote. She will do nothing and collect a paycheck like she did in the state gov't. Look at her voting record. Is this what you want for 6 years?
[...]Welfare payments to children of illegal immigrants in Los Angeles County increased in July to $52 million, prompting renewed calls from one county supervisor to rein in public benefits to such families; 'very concerned'.[...] Los Angeles Times
Very concerned? Duh.......
Thank you MarketYou...I was wondering just how many people bought this phony BS based on a report from Pew Hispanic Center. In my area there has been a steady influx of illegals. The same goes for Mesquite and other towns in southern Nevada. It would be interesting to know how Pew came up with their data.
I would like to see an article on how Nevada citizens feel about illegals being employed by casinos, hotels, construction, landscaping and other jobs, while almost 200,000 citizens are out of work. But I don't think the Sun wants to open that can of worms. I see and hear nothing but anger over the illegal invasion. Only the illegals, their employers, their families and the politicians wanting their familie's votes, oppose enforcement of the existing immigration laws.
So, what about the tax payers that are forced to provide free education, health care and social services for illegals? It sure would be nice if we had equal say in this matter, instead of just writing articles on how the poor illegals have to hide and pray for not being caught and deported. It's a crock.