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Published Wednesday, Sept. 1, 2010 | 12:02 p.m.
Updated Wednesday, Sept. 1, 2010 | 4:37 p.m.
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Metro Police said criminal charges have been filed against two officers involved in a May vehicle pursuit that resulted in the suspect's death.
Metro officials said the two officers — Andrew Ubbens and Aron Carpenter — ignored multiple orders from a sergeant to stop the pursuit after they tried to pull the suspect over for allegedly driving under the influence. Police said Carpenter's vehicle collided with the suspect's Honda Civic on May 19 near the intersection of Lone Mountain Road and Lamb Boulevard in North Las Vegas, killing 27-year-old Ivan Carrillo.
Carpenter, 29, was charged with felony reckless driving and misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter. Ubbens, 26, was charged with misdemeanor reckless driving, officials said.
Metro recommended to the District Attorney's Office that the officers face criminal charges after its investigation revealed internal policies and traffic laws were violated during the pursuit, officials said.
"They're police officers and, you know, they love their jobs," said Joseph Lombardo, deputy chief of Metro's special operations division. "They want to do the right thing. I believe they were caught up in the moment."
Police said regardless of their intentions, the bottom line remains the same: The officers didn't follow their supervisor's commands.
"Any time we make a decision to charge our own officers, you can very well believe we're not taking this lightly," Lombardo said. "That's a very tough decision for a police department. It involves transparency because we can't lose the public's trust."
The two officers allegedly engaged in the car chase without using their emergency lights or sirens after the sergeant told them to stop the pursuit, according to arrest reports released Wednesday.
Lombardo said the sergeant told the officers to stop the pursuit because of public safety concerns. Because the Honda Civic possibly had been involved in a domestic violence situation earlier in the day, the sergeant decided police might instead be able to identify the suspect that way or by the vehicle's registration information, Lombardo said.
During a second interview with police, Ubbens said he unsuccessfully attempted a common police pursuit maneuver that would disable the Civic, according to the arrest report. Instead, officials allege Ubbens' vehicle ran into the back of Carrillo's car and caused the suspect to momentarily lose control.
Officials said Carpenter continued the pursuit once the suspect regained control and followed him to the intersection of Lamb Boulevard and Lone Mountain Road. Carpenter and Carrillo's vehicles allegedly made contact, causing Carrillo to lose control of his Honda Civic and travel into oncoming traffic on Lamb Boulevard, where it was struck by a Ford Contour, according to the arrest report. Two other vehicles also were involved in the crash, officials said.
Carrillo and the driver of the Ford Contour were taken to University Medical Center, where Carrillo died a short time later, officials said. Police said a toxicology report later concluded that Carrillo had methamphetamines in his system, among other substances.
Investigators said Carpenter was driving about the same speed as Carrillo — 61 or 62 mph in a 45 mph zone — at the time of the collision, according to the arrest report.
The District Attorney's Office submitted the case to the North Las Vegas Justice Court because that's where the incident occurred.
Carpenter has been with the department since November 2006 and Ubbens has been with the department since February 2008. Both were assigned to the Northeast Area Command and have been on paid administrative leave until the formal filing of charges.
Officials said Ubbens will remain on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of Metro's internal investigation, but Carpenter will be placed on unpaid administrative leave pending the outcome of the criminal trial because of the severity of the charges.
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I see there's no mention in this story that the suspect was a meth-head who really WAS endangering innocent citizens' lives by driving under the influence. Though this reporter didn't bother to include this information in the story, I believe Officers Ubbens and Carpenter managed to take a dangerous tweaker off the road. Good job, guys!
Well well well they are charging these guys. That didn't take long... they have been being PAID since May! I wonder if I was speeding down the street, hit a car and killed the driver of that car, who happened to be drunk, would it take 3 months for them to charge me? Do you think I would still be getting paid by my employer? Seems sort of lopsided to me, but what do I know?
Here we go again. Metro back in the news with bad cops in the headlines. These officers may well have been good guys but here is the relevant career destroyer. ""ignored multiple orders from a sergeant to stop the pursuit""
Cops ought not disobey their commanders without being held accountable. No excuses, no exceptions, period!
Let's get away from this ""have been on paid administrative leave until the formal filing of charges." If they've been paid since May, that is a long time to milk the taxpayers for someone charged with disobeying orders and being accused of a crime.
And what's taking so long with these investigations and reporting to the public?
The officers employer's should charge them with insubordination and terminate there employment.
Disregarded a direct order from a superior, There is a reason they are your Superior.
For once officers are being held responsible for their actions. That could have been your family they hit and killed.
@ loyal employee,
So your fine with the fact that your son or daughter may have been crossing the street and those cops run him/her down because they were obeying orders??
D-bag..
im conflicted about this. for one the cops were doing their job getting this pile of crap off of our streets, and a supervisor for some reason said forget it and stop it. why did the super say stop? so this dirtbag can get away? did they have a chopper following the DB?
on the other hand, pursuits in any city are dangerous and can cause more problems, the sgt said stop for the good of the public and we can follow this loser by air, but the arrogant hotheaded punks we call cops didnt want their pride broken and decided to keep going thinking they are gods gift to law enforcement and will get this sucka.
this one is a tough one to judge. i dont know if they should be charged with doing their jobs, if anything, at the least, just get them fired and be done with them for breaking protocol.
one has to trust that these officers intentions were to do nothing more than get this scumbucket off the street. even if they are arrogant abusive metro cops that think they are better than the world. i think charges against them are rediculous and should be limited to termination of employment for breaking orders.
The actions of these two relatively new officers is indicative of the bigger problem. That problem is the attitude that appears to pervade the front-line officers that they are expected by the higher ranks to act in this fashion. We see this over and over.
The only real cure is to get a new sheriff who will oust anyone who is contributing to this environment.
Metro and the Clark County D.A.'s office are running scared in the face of the impending Scott inquest. For far too long both agencies took the stubborn approach and stuck their heads in the sand instead of internally addressing and realizing the problematic effects of not cross-examining people who kill other people in crisis situations. Signs of both agencies' rethinking process are manifested by what we are witnessing in this matter and in the case of the D.A.'s office, by the slightly hardening approach utilized at the Trevon Cole inquest. Both agencies have been extremely recalcitrant notwithstanding over a decade of public outcrying fostered by homicides that are not subjected to logical analysis in a forum where there exists liability for wrongful conduct. Couple the recent inquests with all of the potential repercussions associated with the looming Scott inquest, and it seems now that both agencies, and in particular the D.A.'s office, are being forced to acknowledge the 800 pound gorilla sitting in the room. So what now? My fear is the potential for a back doors meeting whereby a tacitly colluded agreement amongst these two powers that be, brings down one or more of the police officers involved in the Scott homicide in an attempt to force a right from two wrongs. The proper approach rather (long overdue), is to halt the runaway train before the Scott hearing. In other words, the D.A. should seek a continuance by petitioning the Nevada Supreme Court, conceding the inadequacies of the present system. The grounds to support the petition? The Sheriff's and the D.A.'s office's stubborn dull behavior created the problem, they can do the thinking to get out of it.
I would be amazed if the reports that were written by these officers in regard to the chase/accident/death -are not filled with falsities and omission of the true facts.
A felony in the State of Nevada. NRS 193.130
Time to cut police and lay off 40% of them and cut all overtime. Fewer people, tourists and businesses now, so we don't need as many.
Also, govern Metro Police cars to 75 mph and get rid of the gas guzzlers for hybrids.
Finally, have all police walk beats - how can they practice their phony "community policing" from a patrol car?
mred, get real. giving them hybrid garbage cars will cost more in the long run. and would you want to be wearing heavy clothing and a vest in 110 degree heat every day? i think not.
@ Sigtwenty.
I wore heavy clothing and a vest in hotter places than Las Vegas...
Were these officers tested for drugs? If not, why? Both of these guys were acting like Yahoo's and should be charged with felonies, not only for their reckless behaviour, endangering the public but also for the fact they failed to follow police orders. Haven't they learned that failure to follow police orders can result in death! RIP Erik Scott.
cops? accountable for their actions? preposterous! wait, I am sure they will plea down to a misdemeanor, to be reduced to a disorderly conduct after finishing probation!
3 words...
CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD!!!
Yet the Coroner said that an inquest was not needed because it was an "accident". The facts don't seem to support the "accident" theory; perhaps the driver of the Civic made a "furtive movement", or these officers were in fear of their lives while they were following the Civic. And, since they've been on paid vacation since May, now they should be able to drag the court case out for another 18 to 24 months, while they continue to collect their pay. CLARK COUNTY JUSTICE SYSTEM AT ITS FINEST!
where's the coroner's inquest? oh, i guess it's ok to go this route and show the voters gillespie's hammer! and his minion, lombardo, even says they got caught up in the moment. then where's the intent. it's okay to violate cops & firefighters rights, as long as it's not the publics rights. i hope all the cops out there are paying attention! nobody has your back when you 'try' to do the right thing and things go bad. the department doesn't care about you and neither does the public. pay attention officers, the writing is all over the walls. i hope vegas burns!!
If a cop wants you to pull over.
THEN PULL THE F##K OVER!!!!!
So all I need to do after a crime is run from the cops because they can't chase me.
Yea pull over or they'll try and kill you and anyone else that may be in the way.
D-bags.
shane7;The irony of that statment would be funny if it wasn't so tragically true.Thank you 7,your statement pretty well sums it up:Don't use your job as an excuse to do stupid things that even the public in general can figure out is wrong.Your the professional.Professionals don't figure it is worth it to put other innocents in greater danger than the original suspected violation would have reasonably caused.I know it is tough out there,but thats why you got to start using your head.Good luck with that concept in these parts lately!
"Any time we make a decision to charge our own officers, you can very well believe we're not taking this lightly," Lombardo said. "That's a very tough decision for a police department. It involves transparency because we can't lose the public's trust."
Ummm...really? Kinda thought you lost that a long time ago Jo Jo.
A politically correct decision made by Metro. So now, officers will be reluctant to chase bad guys who will go on their merry way and perhaps broadside one of those anti-police types like shayne7. Shayne7 will then call for the police to be fired for dereliction of duty. A no-win situation. Me, I prefer they chase any driver who does not obey the command to pull over, arrest him/her and get them off the road.
Despite the fact that there are innocent civilian lives at risk, they are ordered to cease and desist by superior officers and they may in fact be fueling the fire by pursuing and could have possibly tracked this animal via police chopper.
Your right, who needs rules, discipline and proceedure? What was I thinking?
I mean almost killing that guy while going 107 mph w/o rollers on is certainly justifiable.
Boy am I way off base with this one...
So now officers will not be reluctant to persuit the fleeing bad guys because they read in the comments section here that all they had to do was chase em till common sense told them to back off.It's gotten me pretty far with my wife so far!
Yup lvfacts101,
Officers will now be reluctant to not follow orders and obey commands. What a hinderance to there job...I mean a cop whos been on the force less than 2 years obeying commands from a superior officer?
We can't have that, what a slippery slope this is?
Outside of the criminal charges, Ubbens and Carpenter should have been fired as soon as it was obvious that they lied to investigators and superiors. It amazes me that Ubbens was placed on paid leave. Until Metro cleans up its' act and terminates officers that lie, we'll continue to see more incidents like the Darling, Cole, Scott and Carrillo cases. And Metro's misconduct and lies will cost taxpayers tens of millions in civil damages and insurance costs.
SummerlinCC:
Huh? What ever do you mean? Are you inferring that Metro not be allowed to speed through town, guns a blazing and then be held to some sort of 'standard' when questioned? You mean lying to your boss over life and death situations should be frowned upon?
"Yes sir, he did have lights and sirens on"
"No sir, we didn't continue to pursue"
"Oh yea, he has a lengthy record in Texas and California"
"He made a furt... what was I told to say, Oh yea. He made a furtive movement so I blew his F$#@ head off with a shotgun.
Today is a sad day for Las Vegas. Many who have watched me post on the Cole and Scott cases, know that I am rather vocal in my criticism of Metro. I take no joy in the actions of the DA today. What we saw today is the results of poor leadership, lack of integrity, and poor training on the part of Metro. What happened shows the underlying climate and culture of what is acceptable and unacceptable conduct of a Metro officer, both in the eyes of Metro and in the eyes of the Public. It appears that it is acceptable to lie, falisify records and reports, and otherwise take the easier wrong rather than the harder right. Metro's response on paid administrative leave is frankly amazing. Do they want to make sure the officers have money to pay their lawyers? What would the police poll that was done after the Cole Inquest ended and before the Yant revelations and this case show now? I doubt if the numbers would be even close to the same. Will the DA have the courage to go after Yant to the full extent of the law. If we can prosecute Roger Clemens for lying to Congress, why can't we prosecute Yant for lying under oath? The growing public outcry reminds me of the movie "Network" where people open their windows, and you can hear thousands screaming, "I"m mad as h#ll and I'm not going to take it any more." Our elected officials at the County Commission, the DA office and the Sheriff need to pay attention. The 800 pound gorilla is in the room, we all know he is there and the problem needs to be fixed. Restore the trust, faith and respect that Metro Officers are due. That needs to come from responsible, accountable leadership, high standards of integrity and honesty, and improved training, that helps officers calm, rather than aggrivate situations. Then, maybe we will start to respect our officers again.
What Metro should have done is left that guy alone. His ONLY crime was drunk driving and felony evading. Also, I think that no one else was on the road that night so he could not have endangered anyone. I'm sure that if the officers would have just let him go, he would have sobered up, driven home, hugged his kids and said his prayers before going to sleep so he could wake up early to go to work. If left to himself, it is highly unlikely he would have endangered anyone, right?
Wait, what if Metro had let him go.....what COULD HAVE happened? He might've hit your son's car and killed him - someone innocent. Was Carrillo innocent? I think not. He died because HE put himself in a situation where he had to be stopped. The supervisors were wrong for ordering the officers to discontinue. They weren't there.
Three cheers for these brave cops! They saved lives that night!!!
Stop with the cop hating. Innocent until proven guilty remember! Adrenalised officers chasing a man who was clearly a danger to the public, which is us, by the way, proved hard to call off.
What use are cops who don't take risks?
That's the job, the Police get it in the neck whatever they do.
Let's not forget the bad guy here was the dead jerk who wouldn't stop, not the public servants who tried to stop him.
The posters who rail about them being paid since the incident, are you sure you aren't just jealous because these guys have a job?
@MSH1: It's sad that you would defend officers that broke the law, lied about it, improperly performed the PIT technique, and injured innocent civilians in the process.
But I suppose you'll always believe the lack of integrity and lack of leadership in Metro will always be someone else's fault. Until Metro begins to hold its' officers accountable for their misconduct, we'll continue to see these types of incidents repeated again and again. I don't know whatever happened to taking responsibility for one's actions.
What? A bullheaded Metro cop ignoring a direct order given multiple times? I'm happy to see Metro hold them accountable - however it's only because Metro is under fire for all the what is it now, 20 shootings? This tells you what kind of dept. Metro is. It is unheard of for any officer to ignore a direct order whether over the radio or in person period! That's cause to be fired. So these two officers can bend over and kiss their law enforcement careers goodbye FOREVER!!! How many more have ignored direct orders and been allowed to get away with it? VOTE OUT DOUG GILLESPIE OR QYB!
Cops out on the beat refusing to follow orders and than lying about it later on during an official investigation are bad cops.
Plain and simple.
We don't need cops like that, we don't want cops like that........
3 more words.. Depatment of Justice. The Feds will eventually oversee Metro's inability to manage itself.. high up heads will roll.. blue behind federal bars is possible.
summerlincc, msh1 is right tho. its a catch 22. if cops let him go, what would he have done. if they kept going, we saw the end result.
its hard to choose in situations like this.
bottom line, the officers should have stopped, but considering the true arrogance of a metro cop these days i can see why they ignored it and pretended they were above the world and the law and went for it anyway.
it comes down to training and discipline. the super should have said hey, chopper is in the air and will follow. back off. was there a chopper in the air? was there one on its way out? anything like that? did they have roadblocks set up in all directions? there are a lot of possible ideas that could have been done and we dont even know if they were. i think metro is just too gung ho and not enough tactical thinking to be honest.
cab companies in Phoenix use hybrids with great success, its hotter and get tougher use...than Metro Cars that are parked most of the day in front of Restaurants that offer freebies to cops...
we need a $2 a gallon gas tax to encourage hybrid and electric car use.
Also, the Ford "panther platform" has resulted in many Crown Victoria fatalities for police because of the gas tank location.
After a lawsuit, the Arizona DPS had Ford install "flame suppression fuel tanks" when several officers were burned or killed in rear end roadside crashes.
So the current Vegas cop car is less safe than Hybrids.
To Metro Command and all the anti-metro comments on this article, what a bunch of hypocrites. If this meth-head had killed a child on a bike or injured an elderly couple in an accident, all of you would be screaming for an investigation as to why the pursuit was called off. Fortunately they stopped this moron before he killed one of you. You cannot have it both ways, in this instance the officers were right and should be commended for ignoring their idiot sergeant's order.
And almost killed someone else in the process...what if that was your family member A-Hole?
If you look at the arrest warrants on Channel 8 web site, there was a chopper in the air over the scene. In fact, the chopper saw that the officers were continuing the pursuit without lights and sirens.
The use of a helicopter is great for following a suspect to hell and back. But the guy needed to be stopped. A helicopter cannot stop anyone. The cops stopped a meth-influenced driver from killing anyone on the road. If the suspect died, he made his own bed. The officers made a hard choice and saved lives. Supervisors are fallible, too.
""They're police officers and, you know, they love their jobs," said Joseph Lombardo, deputy chief of Metro's special operations division. "They want to do the right thing. I believe they were caught up in the moment."
Are you kidding me? They love to do their job? They were caught up in the moment?
Their job is to follow procedure and obey the law. Their job is NOT to break the law. What a disgusting and careless comment.
That kind of comment leads the community to question the leadership of those in command with Metro.
If METRO recommended the case to the D.A. for charges, then Metro should hold its ground and treat them no differently than any other person accused of such a crime.
Disgusting!
@MSHI
Clearly you have absolutely no ability to reason with your clouded biased dimwitted assertions.
The officers chased this person which ended in his death. You support the decision of the officers who engaged in this conduct which resulted in death, because the man was drunk and the officers were doing their job.
Metro decides that officers were not doing their job, but instead were engaged in criminal conduct for putting the lives of others in danger - using the same logic the officers used to continue their chase of the DUI driver - and you conclude that somehow the officers are ok, but the other guy well...he deserved to die.
You are an idiot.
lotta killin goin on with metro.
Hey guys don't worry, Gillespie is on it! I just heard they are going to be placing stickers on the windshields of all patrol vehicles that read "Obey thy superior"
61 in a 45 is not really "high speed pursuit". It's just above the normal "traffic ticket speed". Probably just above normal traffic flow.
We can all ne thankful that a worthless meth head who was the real one endangering the public is no longer on the road. I will shed no tears for the loss of a criminal domestic violence committing drug addict. What if they had ended the pursuit and he went on and hit in another poster's words "your little girl" a few miles down the road. Then the cops would be blamed for allowing a dangerous driver to continue on the road.
mred, the Ford Crown Vic is being discontinued in a few months, to be replaced by an all new design, tested for 75mph rear impacts. Most of those deaths in the Crown Vic were causrd by being hit by a drunk at freeway speed hitting a parked patrol car on a traffic stop. I'm pretty sure if they were all driving a tin can Prius, three would be even more fatalities.
@sigtwenty: You're right, it can at times be a Catch-22. But as I used to tell my soldiers, when an order is issued from a superior, you never know what information they have that those on the ground don't have. There are numerous occasions when US soldiers had the opportunity to take out "high value targets", but were ordered not to do so. In some instances, it was because the risk of collateral damage or the risk to civilians were too great. It's not the job of junior enlisted soldiers to determine overrule legal orders of their superior, nor do they need to be given an explanation for why they should follow orders.
Metro has a serious integrity problem. The Darling, Cole, Scott and Carrillo cases are just the ones we know about because someone ended up dying. How many other similar cases are out there? How many people have been falsely charged with crimes because a Metro officer decided for himself that someone was guilty and wanted to make the evidence against a suspect appear stronger? How many judges have unknowingly signed off on search warrants containing false information?
These are some serious issues that need to be addressed.
mred, there was only a handful or two of fatalities with panther platform vehicles and fires. part of the issue was how the cops tactically were parking their vehicles on the side of the road. many cars if not any car has the sheer potential to explode when being hit at 60 plus miles per hour in the rear end, where the gas tank is on just about all cars. since then ford added special plates that would prevent puncturing of the fuel cell by the rear axle when the rear axle is compressed against the fuel cell in such a high speed impact and it would create a spark. my panther platform vehicle has these items in place. a hybrid has no space in comparison and no true durability compared to say a prius or a fusion hybrid. they do not offer the pickup and reliability of a 30 year old basic design. i would love to see a brand new crown vic compete in an all urban terrain contest with a fwd hybrid car and see which one holds up better. i have taken many curbs in my panther platform vehicle.
the only downfall to any body on frame vehicle platform, is that side impact is not very good compared to most unibody type cars regardless of size.
departments love the CV for is overall space, durability of a tank or large SUV in a car platform and its ease of repairs, and the very low cost of repairs as well. parts from say a wrecked 05 they have sitting around can work on an 08, lowering budgets. just about any backyard tinker type mechanic can work on a panther vehicle inside and out. with a few exceptions of some random special tools for space, most people with a metric set of tools can replace anything on the motor without any tech manuals. heck, i have even driven my car with a bad alternator to the store, took it off my car in less than 5 minutes, went inside, gave them my core, walked out with a new one and put it back in and was on my way.
newer vehicles, especially since 2005 in most cases, have gotten worse to work on and with all the computer crap they put in them, they are near impossible to even change the oil on if you dont have the knowhow to clear the change oil light!
you can keep your newer cars. ill keep my primitive panther platform for as long as i can get one and get parts for them.
sometimes, i like to say, if its not broke dont fix it. the CV overall is not broke, no reason to fix it. but by todays standards its not practical because the fuel mileage is lame compared to some other vehicles out there, and it is running a very underpowered motor for its size and weight it is hauling all day.
All that is necessary for evil to win is for good people to do nothing. If you want to do something, if you really care and want to make our community better, here is a way to do it. Write a letter, make a phone call, and express your outrage. Send your letters to this man Thomas E. Perez Assistant Attorney General Civil Rights Division 950 Pennsylvania Ave NW Washington DC 20530 phone(202)514-4609 fax:(202)514-0293 If you truly care and want to do something to get Metro under control, write to or fax Mr. Perez.
Just check out the website for the Department of Justice. How about the Minneapolis cop who is facing federal charges for beating up a kid? Yep, Attorney General. How about the deputy sheriff in Choctaw County OK who will spend 18 months in a federal prison for beating up some inmates? Yep, right again, Attorney General. How about the two police officers in Tuba City Arizona, who have been indicted for violating Civil rights of a suspect, one for beating him, and his supervisor for not stopping it? Right again, the Attorney General. How about the two New Orleans cops who are facing life in a federal prison, for you guessed it, civil rights violations. One more time, Attorney General. How about the two Natchez Mississippi police officer who were indicted for civil rights violations for beating two people who had been arrested? Yep, Attorney General again. All of these have been announced since July 29, 2010. How do you think the Attorney General found out about those cases?
If you don't believe me follow the link.
http://www.justice.gov/crt/
It's funny, if the normal person disobeys a police officer they run the risk of being shot and killed.
And while the suspect has been described as a "meth-head," it was the actions two "trained" Metro Officers that ended up injuring innocent bystanders. Sad when the "dangerous tweakers" cause less damage than the cops.
Plain and simply these two cops disobeyed a lawful order from the police. Wonder how many out there expect them to suffer the same fate as Mr. Cole or Mr. Scott.
Its high-time we stop allowing Metro to "take the matter into their own hands." Either that, or lets eliminate the DA's office all together, put the judges salaries back in the public coffers and let Metro just dole out justice as they see fit. After all with a GED and 6 months training, they are certainly have the qualifications to take on the entire judicial process.
To: My Fellow Bloggers,
It is good to see that there is still interest in who is going to be the next Sheriff of Clark County Nevada. I noticed that there are a lot of current distractions thrown the voters way to confuse and distort the real issues.
Actions and Deeds are a measure of a persons worth and integrity and if they are done in a "Good Faith Manner", without malice or criminal intent, society as a whole will forgive minor law infractions committed along the way.
I suppose you could argue that the letter of the law was violated by law enforcement officers such as Bisch's dog bite incident or the two Patrol Officers DUI crash fatality incident, but do we all really want to live by the letter of the law, rather than by the spirit of the law? The people that decide whether or not to move forward on a criminal complaint against another must be totally objective in their decision and not be politically motivated connected in anyway shape or form or hope to gain from that decision.
I have been around here for a long time, going on 37 years in Law Enforcement, and going on 33 years with the local Police Dept. I can't remember that last time I saw the Sheriff or any of his administrators actively and in public, go after current police officers for criminal charges. Certainly, I have seen a Sheriff and some of his administrators answer to charges against police officers, that have been filed by the District Attorney's Office, but not this way. I am hoping that the up and coming Sheriff's election is not prompting this type of public lynching. God help us all if this is how things are going to be done from now on, it has sent a negative message to all real cops, no proactive police work or else.
Just an old cop reflecting,
Gordon Martines
Police pursuits need to based on established criteria. It is no longer ok to chase someone just because they run. The civil and criminal liabilities involved in police pursuits for the officers and their agencies are enormous. Too many innocent citizens, decent people showing bad judgement and police officers are being killed every day. You need to realize that it's just not worth it to chase everyone who runs. The #1 killer of police officers is traffic accidents so slow it down,(you do EVOC training but you are not a professional race car driver in a race car)arrive alive, make it there to back your partner and most importantly go home safely to your family at the end of your shift.
Most of the Country adopted a modern chase policy in the early 1990's - seems Metro lost the training memo? Doug operates Metro like it's 1977 and will continue to operate in that shag-carpet-mode because he's a relic of the 70's.
The dynamics of a police chase have much to do with ego/pride and adrenaline (You can't run from me!) and many young officers fall into this dangerous mindset. It is also a well established fact - officers will increase their vehicle speed 20 mph just by the activation of the lights and siren. (adrenaline factor).
(62 in a 45 - really means 82 in a 45)
This is a classic example of a chase that should never continue for the simple fact it was a domestic and the information on the driver was readily available.
Before the ink dried on the arrest warrant, Carillo would've been sleeping it off and taken into custody in his underwear...case closed.