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By Anjeanette Damon (contact) 
, David McGrath Schwartz
Wednesday, Oct. 27, 2010 | 2 a.m.
Sharron Angle
Harry Reid
Sun archives
Sun coverage
With the vitriolic 2010 U.S. Senate race coming to a close, both parties are making allegations typical of every campaign’s final days: Republicans say Democrats are engaging in voter fraud by manufacturing fictional votes and offering bribes to lure voters to the polls, while Democrats say Republicans are trying to intimidate blacks and Hispanics to keep them from voting.
Here’s what you need to know, at least for now: Neither side can offer convincing evidence of its charges.
• As for Republicans’ allegations of ballot high jinks, election authorities say they have found no evidence of fraud — and note that offering burgers and doughnuts to voters isn’t a crime. “It’s hard to buy an election with a hamburger,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid quipped Tuesday.
• As for the Democrats’ claim that GOP challenger Sharron Angle is attempting to scare away minority voters, the allegation is also unproven. (But it was big news last week when Latinos for Reform produced ads admonishing Hispanics to withhold their votes as a protest for Democrats’ failure to change immigration laws. Although the organization isn’t affiliated with her campaign, Angle has refused to denounce the ads while both gubernatorial candidates — Republican Brian Sandoval and Democrat Rory Reid — did denounce them.)
These last-minute salvos began Tuesday, after Sun columnist Jon Ralston reported that Angle’s campaign had sent a fundraising letter to Republican supporters with sketchy charges about Reid and his allies trying to buy votes. “Harry Reid has been offering free food and, according to other reports, some Democratic allies such as teachers’ unions are offering gift cards in return for a vote for Reid.”
State law allows campaigns or political parties to offer food to anyone who votes, giving employees time off to vote and offering voters rides to the polls.
Claudia Briggs, spokeswoman for the Nevada State Education Association, said the teachers union was giving Starbucks gift cards to volunteer organizers, not to individual voters.
Coffee and doughnuts was the entirety of the substance of the Angle allegations, although not the rhetoric. Political fundraising letters almost always play on fear as a chief check-writing motivator, and this one was no different, calling distribution of food and coffee “ACORN-style tactics.”
Adding, “THESE are the kinds of shenanigans that can turn this race. Harry Reid intends to steal this election if he can’t win it outright.”
ACORN, the now-defunct community activist group, has the hyperventilating effect on Republicans that a name like Karl Rove has on Democrats. According to one credible poll, a majority of Republicans believes the outcome of the 2008 election, won by President Barack Obama by 8 million votes, was the result of a vast ACORN conspiracy.
Like any conspiracy charge, there’s a bit of freshwater in an otherwise polluted lake of falsity: Before the 2008 election, the Nevada secretary of state’s office, FBI and U.S. attorney general’s office formed an Election Integrity Taskforce. That task force arrested and charged two ACORN advisers in Las Vegas for paying voter-registration workers on a quota system. Democratic Secretary of State Ross Miller said the local field director has pleaded guilty and agreed to testify against the regional field director. The trial starts in November.
The crime, however, was related to registration fraud, falsely registering voters, which is relatively easy to commit but has no effect on an election. Actual voter fraud — either manipulating polling machines or getting someone to go to a polling place and claim he’s someone he’s not — is much more difficult to pull off and probably can’t swing an election.
In a 2008 interview with Salon, Barnard College political scientist Lorraine Minnite said that nationwide, just 20 people were found guilty of voting while ineligible, although five were guilty of voting twice. That’s just 25 convictions across the country in two election cycles involving more than 120 million votes.
Larry Lomax, Clark County registrar of voters, said that after every election, his office may find a few people who attempt to vote twice. He said they are usually confused, older voters. Nevertheless, his office forwards the cases to District Attorney David Roger, who never prosecutes because the voter didn’t intend anything criminal.
“If I knew of election fraud, we would stop it,” Lomax said. “I’m not aware that it’s the big deal some people claim it is.”
What about the electronic voting machines? Can they be rigged?
Across the country, many whistle-blowers have credibly questioned the integrity of electronic voting machines. Professor J. Alex Halderman of the University of Michigan once turned an electronic voting machine into a game of “Pac-Man.” But millions of real and test votes have been cast in Nevada since the machines were introduced, without much controversy.
KVVU Channel 5, the Fox affiliate, carried this thinly sourced report of problems with voting machines in Boulder City: “Voter Joyce Ferrara said when (she) went to vote for Republican Sharron Angle, her Democratic opponent, Sen. Harry Reid’s name was already checked. Ferrara said she wasn’t alone in her voting experience. She said her husband and several others voting at the same time all had the same thing happen.”
Lomax said the woman seems not to have told anyone at the Boulder City polling place.
“I have talked to workers out there, and if this occurred, it was never brought to the attention of the workers or poll watchers. So this lady who made the claim never complained at the polling place. She apparently went home and called Fox 5.”
Lomax noted that the machines can be quite sensitive, causing voters to accidentally mark the wrong candidate, but that the machines provide ample opportunity for changing to the desired choice.
As for wholesale software manipulation, Lomax said the software is validated by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, certified by Republican and Democratic state parties, copied and sent to a vault in the secretary of state’s office.
“The machines won’t even do what this lady claims,” Lomax said.
“To commit meaningful election fraud, significant enough to sway an election — it would be extremely difficult to do and keep secret. I don’t even know how it would work,” Lomax said.
Nevertheless, Republicans are pushing the charge on another front: In a detailed 44-page letter, a lawyer for the Nevada Republican Party demanded Miller investigate discrepancies in early voting tabulations that the party claims to have uncovered.
The letter outlines a series of small differences — one or two votes — between voter sign-in sheets and the ballots cast on the electronic voting machines in Clark and Washoe counties.
Miller said such discrepancies occur every election cycle.
“We last had to explain these issues to the Obama campaign,” he said. “Those discrepancies, by and large, are elderly election officials who worked a 16-hour day and make a clerical error.”
Miller said sometimes voters will sign in and leave before casting a ballot, a phenomenon called a “fled voter.”
Nevertheless, he said he has asked the head of his securities division to investigate the Republicans’ complaint. “She’s an attorney with a law enforcement background, independent from my elections division,” he said.
Angle and the Republicans have good reasons to make the allegations, no matter how wispy their evidence. It motivates an enraged base, in this case with an explicit appeal for money. And, the allegations sow the seeds of doubt if the campaign loses narrowly enough to challenge the validity of the election. Angle has done so in the past.
In response to Angle’s accusations, the Reid campaign decided to fight noise with noise, including this charge:
Angle’s operatives are flooding polling places to intimidate voters, handing out literature to suppress the vote, and running ads encouraging minority voters to stay away from the polls altogether.
Just as the Republican allegations of voter fraud are meant to conjure images of cigar-chomping Chicagoans stuffing the box for John F. Kennedy, so Democratic charges of Republican voter suppression offer a particularly emotional appeal, especially to minority voters. Many are old enough to have experienced voter intimidation as young people or to remember images of Southern blacks braving physical beatings to vote.
But the Reid campaign had little to show for its scary rhetoric. Kelly Steele, a spokesman, pointed to effort by Latinos for Reform to run Spanish-language ads encouraging Hispanics not to vote. Aside from that, he said, “Our campaign has an extensive voter protection campaign and a statewide hotline,” but wouldn’t share any details of alleged suppression efforts.
Miller said as in the case of voter fraud, there have been no credible claims of vote suppression.
He said one caller complained that someone was outside a grocery store, yelling for people not to vote, that “they won’t count your vote anyway.” He sent out an investigator to the location, which, it turns out, isn’t even an early voting location. When the investigator called the complainant back, the man admitted that he hadn’t heard it himself — it was his wife’s housekeeper who said she heard it, and it happened days before.
“This is the silly season. I recognize this is an emotional election. We’re getting complaints into our office that amount to no more than hearsay or rumors,” Miller said.
The Sun asked Angle’s campaign if it had more specific allegations about voter fraud. Angle spokesman Jarrod Agen said the campaign is basing its charge on calls made to its “election fraud hotline,” but provided no further details.
Sun reporter J. Patrick Coolican contributed to this story.
typical karl rove crap...
make no mistake boys and girls...
when you assess how we would up in the mess we are in...
all trails point back to karl "no morals whatsoever" rove!!!
" registration fraud, falsely registering voters, which is relatively easy to commit but has no effect on an election."
The above statement by the LV Sun is a blatant lie. How much did the Democratic operatives pay you to write this article?
How is not giving away FREE food and gift cards in exchange for your vote NOT an illegal tactic by the Democrats trying to get Reid re-elected? Bad Reid...Bad Senator http://aBadReid.com
@ robert_lv
"The above statement by the LV Sun is a blatant lie. How much did the Democratic operatives pay you to write this article?"
Come on get a life, on the Sun Website you will find adds for and against Harry Read so sir get a life. Yes I agree that we need change and yes both Harry and Sharon scare me to death but you know what Harry is the lessor of two evils and we at least know what to expect out of the man. All I know to expect out of Sharon is a lot of back peddling and Religious backbiting about the sins of our lives and Social Security being privatized and more and more illegal immigrants. All that Mangle has proven to me is that she cannot be trusted at all.
And that is my opinion and opinion only.
Seriously? The only people dumb enough to vote for someone who gave them coffee and donuts would be Angle supporters. Is this another case of "projection"?
As far as the false claim that the machines already had Reid's name chosen, I'm interested in finding out how many of those people also don't think Obama is a U.S. citizen or that he's a Muslim/Marxist/Communist usurper.
Once again, we see the leftists spewing their venom. If it was up to them, no one could offer an opinion that was different than their own. That, friends, is what Socialism & Communism is all about. This coming Tuesday, we start turning away from the Socialist/Marxist path Obama, Reid Pelosi, etal have put us on. We may have to wait until 2012 to get rid of Obama but we can fire Reid on November 2 and we will.
Republicans have a long history of being cry babies.
This is a dumb article.
Stealing elections have occurred many times across the country throughout our history.
Acting as if it NEVER occurs is either naive or dishonest.
Thanks, Jerry. I think you answered my question.
This all is being done so the Republicants can justify a recount and try to steal a election like they did with Gore-Bush race. That was a blatant steal of an election and the American public did nothing about it and look what we got in return. The Republicants try to make something out of nothing and overlook all of their faults(deceit, lies,and sex for campaign donations, sounds like an old profession doesn't it). The party of deception and liars (Republicant) will fail again, because the public has not forgot what they did during the past administration. They have manipulated the Supreme Court to let big business finance their campaign run, because President Obama was very successful in getting money from the public, so the lies run wild this campaign season. Never relinquish your right to vote, especially for a judge. They may end up deciding a election. A politician financed by big business will be have to pay it back in the form of tax breaks and this will cost the average citizen more. The Republicant propagandist are at full force right now.
I cannot wait for this election to be over.
I find it utterly disgusting that this Nation is so divided at a time when we should be working together.
It is the tough times that define us as people and as a Nation.
Widely reported that SEIU members maintain the electronic voting machines.
If that charge is inadequate, then we can resort to the Daily Beast claim that Las Vegas is the Dumbest City.
Either works for me.
The MidWest is watching you Nevada and We can Revolt peacefully by not comming to Vegas!!!
It is Fraud and it is one-sided
Good job on that ShannonK!!
So in the interest of our economy here HighlandMike, who would YOU prefer me to vote for???
Because that's how ANYONE in our fantastic state is going to base their vote, based on what YOU would like us to do.
What I would like YOU to do, is worry about YOUR elections in YOUR state!
Who does not trust the SEIU? You want your arms broken???
'BLADE RUNNER ANGLE'
Ms. Angle's behavior is starting to remind me of the aura of paranoia that suffuses in the film Blade Runner.
Blade Runner is a 1982 American science fiction film and I see it like this... the film depicts a dystopian Nevada in November 2010 in which genetically organic robots called replicants (Latinos and other minorities) wanted to vote-visually indistinguishable from other "real americans, patriotic americans or even common sense conservitives" they are manufactured by the the all-powerful Republican Elite Corporations as well as manufacturers around the world.
Their right to vote in Washoe and Clark Counties are being banned as replicants are exclusively used for dangerous, menial or leisure work in Nevada's off-road counties. Replicants who defy the right to vote ban in Washoe and Clark Counties are being scrutinized by Sharron Angle's special operatives known as "blade runners".
Ms. Angle's "blade runners" primary operation is to by all means necessary, even by alleging early voter discrepancies is an attempt to nuetralize the replicants(Latinos and other minorities) vote.
"Nothing to see here, folks. Move along"...Why don't we wait unti after the Attorney General press conference regarding this before we make up our minds?
ACORN ! ! !
Start screaming that TeaHeads, i dare you..
First of all Scott Ashjian, the Tea Party of Nevada candidate is not a TEA party person. His objectives and direction is not supported by the TEA Party movement, he is a front by the democrats to draw votes away from Sharron Angle's campaign, which is supported by the TEA Party Patriots and the TEA Party Express. Now you have the machines rigged by the SEIU to vote for Harry (Lord HawHaw) Reid. This is the same SEIU that did a full on beat down on an old black man just because he is a conservative. SEIU = Thugs! And of course they are full on supporters and servants of the socialist Harry (Lord HawHaw) Reid. They are the ones that do the work on the voting machines. Reid is paying for votes and makes no bones about it. But that is alright for the liberals and union thugs. What they fail to admit is that this is not just about Nevada, it is about the entire USA. What they refuse to admit is that the democrats have held the congress for 4 years, not just the two that Obama has been in office. What they do not see or do not care about is that the economy was fine until the democrats took over congress. Congress holds the purse strings to the government money and the direction of the national economy. The democrats blew it. Reid got richer, but the rest of us lost out. And now when this is pointed out people try to say "look over there". Jedi mind games will not play this time you pro-socialist, pro-Marxist. We the free citizens are awake and aware of the criminal actions rigging the votes. Anyone voting for Harry Reid is voting for a socialist economic system and a Marxist government. That is where he wants us to go. For the safety of this nation and the security of your freedoms, Harry Reid must go! Vote for Sharron Angle!
Time for your meds Thomas, your head is about to pop off!!
Plenty of time for screaming AFTER you lose the election!! :)
Just please keep your "second amendment remedies" away from my family.
Says a lot that the Shingles camp is worried about voters changing their minds for a sidewalk slider.
Are they admitting that their ideology is only worth a dollar?
There's a lot of hate and mindless name-calling here...Hey, Vagas....Maybe Yomama was right telling everyone NOT to go there....BTW...LV Sun....with only these losers reading your rag...I wonder how your subscriptions are doing... LOL.
Here is an interesting comment:
"Now rigging elections is faster and easier than ever! No one knows what these machines do. The specifications are unpublished and are, in fact, "trade secrets." :)
And "Boards of Elections" are so FAKE; they approve this crap.
THIS is our actual "democracy." --> It is totally in the hands of a mysterious ATM machine maker! <--
With paper ballots at least you have something you can re-count. The two Parties own the polls and will never allow anyone near them who won't play their game. That is their purpose."
http://www.prisonplanet.com/election-fra...
Typical nonsense from the tin-foil hat crowd at NPRI, KXNT, KDWN, Heidi Harris, Drudge, the RJ and the tea crackpots. I know! I'll file a complaint with the United Nations and they can send in people to monitor the election.
I noticed Sherman Fredrick was voted the biggest disseminator of mis-information in the world, and we can see why.
I wonder if this is the way that Beasley Broadcasting and Heidi Harris are preparing the area nut jobs to resort to "2nd Amendment Remedies" after Angle loses?
Excercise YOUR right to be politically incorrect - VOTE!!!
Not to worry! These dishonest tactics used by the Republican campaign can only appeal to voters that will ensure the sudden disappearance into obscurity of Sharron Angle and her sociopathic cabal.
Comment removed by moderator. Repetitive.
Not to worry about the polls! Should Angle lose, the tin foil hat crowd will still believe, that they live in a "democracy".
If the voters are American by either birth or naturalization and have been properly vetted to
vote in the election the only question remaining is
the current story circulating that voting machines
have been rigged to show only democrats on the ballot. It will be extremely intersting to see factual proof of this alligation. We alread know that the Servies Union has bragged about the number of Illigals who belong to it and the money they receive from foreign sources to booster their
political clout and PAC. Regardless of all of this, Obama has told people not to come to Nevada and Harry haw not done any favors for the citizens of Nevada either. He is a steong supportere of Amnesty for all the CriminL Illegal Aliens who are invading the state on a daily basis. Either we stop this now or we lose our nation to foreign interst and corruption from Mexico.
"In a detailed 44-page letter, a lawyer for the Nevada Republican Party demanded Miller investigate discrepancies in early voting"
A 44 page letter from a lawyer?
Nut job.
I just got off the phone from the U.N. Headquarters, they are going to dispatch a delegation to monitor Nevada elections. The team will include member States of Turkestan, Uzbekistan, Guinea Bissau, Slovenia and the Turks and Caios.
The UN Forces will be billeted at the Encore and the Venetian and will begin their investigation by raiding Art Bell's house for documents!
I went back and re-read Oklahoma/Washington attorney Cleta Mitchell's fundraising letter which John Ralston posted on The Sun yesterday.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralston...
NEVADA LAWYERS, YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOUR TURF. THIS WOMAN IS NOT ADMITTED TO PRACTICE LAW IN NEVADA. SHE IS PRACTICING LAW HERE ILLEGALLY.
The proof of Cleta Mitchell's unlawful practice of law in Nevada is in her letter, both in terms of what she says and how she signs it:
"As Sharron's first line of defense on these matters I am absolutely committed to making sure this won't happen.
What Harry Reid is doing is clearly illegal. Nevada law (NRS 293.700) provides that, "A person who bribes, offers to bribe, or use and other corrupt means, directly or indirectly, to influence any elector in giving his or her vote or to deter the elector from giving it is guilty of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130."
Signed "Sincerely,
Cleta Mitchell
Counsel to Friends of Sharron Angle
Republican Nominee for U.S. Senate, Nevada"
CLETA MITCHELL IS PRACTICING LAW IN NEVADA WITHOUT A LICENSE. IN DOING SO, SHE IS SOLICITING MONEY FROM THE PUBLIC TO PAY HER FEES. HER LAW FIRM DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A NEVADA OFFICE.
Nevada has a history of being careful about who it allows to practice law in this state. The Nevada Secretary of State needs to turn over Cleta Mitchell's name to the State Bar, and ignore her, because in Nevada she's not an attorney.
There are plenty of Republican lawyers in town who could represent Sharron Angle. Nevadans don't need outsiders intervering in our elections, especially those who incite "poll watchers" to intimidation tactics and violence to interfere with each Nevadan's right to vote, regardless of race, ancestry or political persuasion.
I think that mr ed is hearing voices again. Hang in there mr ed, help is on the way and should be here next Tuesday...
The street definition of 'STUPID' is doing the same thing, over and over again, expecting a different result.
You've elected HARRY and elected HARRY and elected HARRY again and again.
Get it?
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Harry Reid is the best friend illegal aliens ever had, that true.
Mark my words, by the end of this election, illegal aliens will have figured out how easy it is, to check off Senator Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and even Jerry Brown on absentee ballots? This is not just saying Voter fraud is prevalent in the Border States, but every state is equally at risk. Consider the situation that Border States are heavily impregnated with foreign nationals, more so in California, Nevada, New Mexico and Texas. That Senator Harry Reid has promised them some form of mass path to citizenship, if they vote for him in this midterm. Now when illegal aliens have already committed one offense by entering America, so committing a second crime by voting is certainly insignificant to people after the first crime. The fact that potentially filling out a registration forms to vote at home, opens a gaping loophole in the voting process.
It is a certainty that hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrant homes have in that family circle at least one unprocessed person, therefore illegal entrant. That anybody can get from the Post Office, Drivers License Department a voter registration or by canvassers of which Acorn had the monopoly of this vulnerable system. Senator Reid has already proved this, by--BUYING--votes for himself, with free food and drinks. Other questions should be asked about Union who have a past history of voter fraud, should not be allowed any intimate contact with electronic voting machines. or within certain any legal distance near polling sites. Then again, in Orange County Democrats gave illegal aliens the right to prospect for votes in neighborhoods. With majority leader Harry Reid promising-AMNESTY, that any new administration and then--whatever political party is seated--better take note of the public's fury that the majority of Americans will not sign on to any form of Amnesty whatsoever. IF ANY POLITICAL PARTY OR GOVERNMENT AGENCY HAD ANY TRUE COMMITMENT TO HALTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, THEY WOULD MAKE ILLEGAL ENTRY A CLASS ONE FELONY?
Of any open border Liberal impersonating a Dem delivering AMNESTY, to the 13 to 20 million illegal foreigners over here is--dead meat. GOOGLE--Voter Fraud; or Illegal alien costs; Another concern is that the Democrats voted--YES--on, is "totalization" agreement between the U.S. and Mexico that would grant Social Security benefits to Mexicans, including some who are here illegally, even if they didn't work in the U.S. long enough to qualify for Social Security benefits. Our Senior Citizens have been gainfully employed all their life's and these demented souls in Washington, want to share our weak Social Security and pensions with illegal aliens? GOOGLE--illegal aliens and Social Security.
Less educated citizens have been brain-washed to believe that this seventh AMNESTY isn't going to cost the taxpayers--ANYTHING. But ask Robert Rector, Chief analyst at the Heritage Foundation that taxes will go up, to pay the 2.6 TRILLION dollar bill. Slowly this federal government is growing and spreading and we can only hope that the Tea Party candidates will begin reduction in this monstrosity. Yesterday the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals yesterday threw out part of an Arizona law requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote, but left standing a section requiring registered voters to present proof of identification to cast a ballot. This at least can divorce most non-citizen voters from casting a vote. This is extremely significant in tight races, when only say 800 voters can have a completely different outcome to who goes to Washington or State assembly.
To be fair, every polling location should have one Democrat and one Republican and an Independent as oversight referees to check for absentee ballots irregularities. This is where the honor system is most weak. With the money wasted by Democrats, Republicans it would be prudent to have a national Voter Identification card, with fingerprint and picture to halt for good any form of spurious voting.
There have been wrong doing for over 40 years by the Democratic Party.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX864fXR1...
Who can trust Senator Reid? NO ONE !
"I went back and re-read Oklahoma/Washington attorney Cleta Mitchell's fundraising letter which John Ralston posted on The Sun yesterday."
I went back and re-read thesunwill's postings, which is of course the old shill Zumabound working for the Reid campaign (& ADL):
http://www.lasvegassun.com/users/thesunw...
The motivation:
"THE TEA PARTY IS A FARCE!. What they are is the consevative republicans that includes the religious right,militia and extremist with a new name called the tea party, that all of a sudden found government so bad, the moderate republicans better watch out as well because they don't want you around either..DON'T BE FOOLED..these tea party people are DANGEROUS to safety and well being of this country and MUST BE STOPPED!"
"WE WILL DEFEND HATE SPEECH wherever it is when it comes to the rights of human beings.. you people don't appear to be human.. so you're right, we are fired up if not NAZI GERMANY would running the world but then again you hatemongers may like that idea."
The verdict:
"YOU hatemongers don't get it..HARRY REID will win on nov.2nd..all the nonsense you racist,bigoted republicans spew on here will not stop the fact that Harry Reid will be reelected on nov.2nd."
And the result:
"Harry Reid wins re election by 2,900 plus votes."
"My prediction remains that Harry Reid WINS by 2900+ votes."
Jon Stewart's Video Take-Down Of McCain: He's Been Saying D.C.'s Broken Since 1989 (VIDEO)
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/...
If dirty Harry is elected we WILL get "cap and trade", the house has already passed it and Harry is Obama's rubber stamp so we can expect HUGE inflation due to the Obama's cap and trade bill.
Vote Angle!!
"UPDATE: A Democratic source is challenging the validity of the CNN/Time sample, arguing that an extrapolation of the numbers indicates the poll under samples Democrats and Republicans and over samples independents. And, as Las Vegas Sun columnist Jon Ralston also pointed out, the source argues that if early voting patterns remain consistent, Reid would be ahead because of his tighter lock on the base. So far, Democrats have a 1 percent turnout edge in raw numbers over Republicans in early voting.
Now, early voting patterns don't always reflect Election Day turnout. Republicans generally under perform in early voting. But this year they've been turning out in higher numbers during early voting than in past years.
Again, as the overused line goes, the only poll that counts is on Election Day."
Again, psychology is not their strength, because if - as the overused line goes -, the only poll that counts is on Election Day, they wouldn't feel the need to "refute" the CNN/Time sample.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/damon-p...