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DePosada’s latest: Vote Democrat, just not yet, to send immigration message
Friday, Oct. 22, 2010 | 2 a.m.
The Republican who told Hispanics not to vote — or was that to demand respect when you do vote? — is further convoluting his message with one more revelation: He says he actually trusts Democrats when it comes to immigration, the issue upon which he wants all Hispanics to base their vote — or nonvote.
Roberto DePosada, who heads Latinos for Reform, on Thursday offered this logic: Democrats, because they did not deliver an immigration reform bill as promised, should be sent a clear signal in the current election: Hispanics’ votes can’t be taken for granted. The losses they suffer during the 2010 midterms will, in turn, force them to do something about immigration reform during the lame-duck period, so that in 2012, they will have something concrete to campaign on vis-a-vis Hispanics, so that eventually there will be immigration reform.
Catch all that?
It’s a perverse logic that boils down to this: Because Democrats are the only ones who can deliver on immigration reform, don’t vote for them. Not now at least. Don’t vote for them now, so you can vote for them with a clear conscience later.
“They’re going to do nothing unless this message is sent,” DePosada said, making the lame-duck Congress the only chance for immigration reform.
DePosada’s theory, though — that with little time left, Democrats will push through an immigration reform package in the lame-duck period — ignores one basic tenet of political chronology: Lame-duck periods are rarely the time to take up large, contentious bills such as immigration reform, because lawmakers want to finish the business they have to and be home for the holidays.
To be sure, a departing Republican-majority Congress did tackle immigration once during a lame duck, in 2006. But that was an enforcement-only measure — and few lawmakers are willing to say they are against immigration enforcement.
Far fewer are willing to cast a vote in favor of other component parts of comprehensive reform though, such as pathways to citizenship for undocumented immigrants now in the country.
Although immigration reform does not neatly cleave along party lines, those sorts of issues find more support among Democrats.
But DePosada has run out of patience with them.
“You’re basically asking Hispanics to say, ‘What do you prefer, to get stabbed in the back or clubbed in the head?’ ” DePosada said of the choice between Democrats and Republicans when it comes to immigration reform.
So why not feature both Republican Sharron Angle and Sen. Harry Reid in his latest campaign ad?
“I don’t think it would cross anyone’s mind that Hispanics would support Sharron Angle,” DePosada said, laughing at the suggestion.
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Patronizing south of the border people seems to be the Idea du Jour with Dumbocrats. Are SOB folks so stupid they can be led around by the nose by people like DePosada? I don't think so. I've interacted with many and they seem pretty savvy to me. They'll make up their own minds as to what they believe and for whom they will vote.
How many members in latinos for reform ? .......1
HUH?!?
Muy ambiguo...
No comprende'...
LOCO!!!
So we're reading about a Republican operative who puts out ads suggesting to Latinos that they not vote, or at least they not vote for Democrats this time around. Amazingly, the first comment claims that "Dumbocrats" (sic) are patronizing "South of the border" people by pointing out the fallacies in the ads.
If Latinos vote in large numbers, that helps Democrats and hurts Republicans. Recognizing that fact, Mr. DePosada is trying a novel form of voter suppression by attempting to convince them it is in their own best interest to sit out the vote.
It is blatant and it is slimy and it is not patronizing in any way to point that out.
It is very apparent that the Karl Rove tactics to influence the vote here in Nevada won't work.
People need to make sure they understand this is all smoke and mirrors.
The truth of the matter is that the Republican Party (and even the bastardized even harsher right wing version of it..the Tea Party) has said or done absolutely NOTHING to help the Hispanics here in Nevada. During that same period of time, they have performed blatant fear mongering, race baiting and xenophobia regarding this issue. And even worse, the continual rhetoric of dehumanizing Hispanics are followed religiously and as a policy set in stone by the Republicans.
DePosada is just throwing more gasoline on the fire. And everyone can see through this outright attempt to effect the Nevada vote.
DePosada cannot tell anyone how to vote (or how not to vote). He needs to take his dog and pony show somewhere else. But if he chooses not to, I encourage him to continue these Karl Rove tactics. They will surely sway the voters. But not in the ultra conservative way his bosses want. It will without any doubt at all cause every Republican/Tea Party candidate in Nevada to be slapped out of power not only now, but for at least a few generations.
The real truth of the matter is that Harry Reid and the Democrat Party has said or done absolutely NOTHING to help the Hispanics here in Nevada.
Harry Reid and the Democrats COMPLETELY controlled both house of congress and the White House for two years and what did they do on immigration reform?
NOTHING...
And now Harry Reid and the Democrats are pandering for the Hispanic vote. HOW SAD!!!
LarryVegas - what? Where in this article does it state that "And now Harry Reid and the Democrats are pandering for the Hispanic vote." Obviously you read a different article than I did.
DePosada! Are you prejudeice like Angle? Do you support the bigots listed below? Will you denounce their ranting? Here! Let me remind you! Will you denounce and repute the following persons who made disparaging remarks about people of color?
==> Tancredo in Colorado. Tancredo had a "MACACA Moment" specifically calling President Obama, "Barack Hussein Obama", to specifically identify the President as "Hussein" to further amplify "Islamic roots" as a rallying cry to the masses!
==> Rand Paul, who referred to Jim Crow Era tactics and side tracked bigotry by saying private ownership "should be allowed to determine who could be served in restaurants or food counters."
==> Palladino in New York, who used an "African Tribal Dance" and called it "President Obama's Inaugural Dance", and used computer generated photos of President and Michelle Obama dressed as pimp and prostitute in one of his mailings.
==>The Oregon State candidate who continues to home school with an old text book calling "Negroes" as "Childlike and unintelligent"!
==>Virginia Republican Party Chairman of a comment that "His dog should be eligible for Welfare" since "He black, unemployed, lazy, can't speak English and probably has no clue who his daddy is"!
Please tell me you denounce and repute these bigots! If not then you are just as bigoted!
These people are bigoted and discriminated and do not deserve to run for office, don't you think?
Please respond in this forum so all can see your response. I will automatically assume no response will make you just a culpable.
Till then:
Vote
Out
The
(E)Incumbent Bigoted Republican party of "NO"
colinfromlasvegas: you have serious mental problems. Better see a shrink before your head explodes.
radsenior has posted the same rant on nine different discussions and is race bating and he can assume nothing...
Note to world: lvfacts101 (Jerry Fink), posting here, is trying to pull a fast one by pretending that this DePosada guy (and his phony group) is a Democrat. Instead of a now well-known Republican operative and dirty tricks guy, which is what he is.
So this phony DePosada guy now says "Vote for Democrats. But not now. Vote for Republicans now. Vote for a Democrat some other time." How stupid does he think Hispanics are? If he wants to say "Vote for Angle," why doesn't he just say it?
What have Harry Reid and the Democrats done for the Hispanics lately?
Harry Reid and company failed to introduce and pass any piece of legislation to reform immigration during the past two years that they had complete control of both houses of Congress and the White House.
Senator Reid (NV); Boxer (CA); Feingold (WI); Bennett (CO); Inouye (HI)Lincoln (AR)); Mikulski (MD); Gillibrand (NY); Schumer (NY) Wyden (OR) Leahy (VT); Murray (WA) and Majority Speaker Pelosi. New Politicians, Governors, Mayors, Police Chiefs and other elected officers, city managers are pro-amnesty and Gubernatorial hopeful Jerry Brown is pro-Amnesty, so is Gavin Newsom, and have all catered to illegal immigrants by granting them access to welfare and all social services destined for taxpaying citizens. The Democrats have also promised illegal aliens a Path to Citizenship or AMNESTY, so illegal aliens have absolutely nothing to lose by voting for the Liberal Democratic Monarchy. Harry Reid has become especially defiant of the 1986 Immigration law, even though he swore allegiance to the people of these United States. He even tried to table the E-Verify business identification program in the Senate. Now he wants to pass a new transportation law of a bullet train between Las Vegas and Los Angeles, only the problem being contractors will likely hire cheap illegal labor, to bolster their profit margin.
In fact President Obama's Department of Justice have hassled Tea Party members watching for voting irregularities, but little or nothing about straight forward intimidation by the newly organized Black panthers gangs wielding clubs. As you would guess the majority of national press has not publicized any of these severe incidents and therefore you can only dig the dirt up in the Google/Yahoo archives, E-magazines and unbiased open border media. We need serious oversight in all polling locations and at least one independent officer to police the registrations and absentee ballots, owing to the sudden appearance of voter fraud. We should have a federal law for every district in America, to have Independent polling watchers as does Harris County, Texas. Our Vote exists to protect the right to vote and the integrity of the election process, but if its compromised by extremists the loss to our democracy be great.
A spokesman for the Harris County Watchers state, "We have uncovered likely violations of law in Harris County including non-citizens registering to vote, potential forgeries in voter applications, and multiple registrations for the same person. We have provided law enforcement authorities evidence of this activity, and we hope they act to remedy the problem as soon as possible." This is urgently significant in states with massive populations of illegal aliens, because they have voted and will again, as they are desperate to keep Liberals-Democrats in Washington, to support the passing of--AMNESTY. In border states such as Sanctuary State California and Nevada they are heavy with illegal immigrant populations should be closely watched for bogus voting.
Commencing now we must be very thorough in watching for voter fraud, as it has already been detected in Houston, Texas and other locations. We cannot depend or rely on the "honor System" anymore as in last ten years. GOOGLE--Voter fraud and illegal alien costs--specially the 2.6 Trillion dollars for the Liberal push for Amnesty and witness the growing incidents within the Democrat party of voter fraud. Another episode quickly concealed was just hours after the Yuma Sun newspaper Reported that 3000 voter registrations had been vacated at the Yuma County Recorder's Office by a group allied with the SEIU union (with most of them consequently found to be fraudulent.) As yet I haven't revealed any voter fraud other than in the Democratic registrations. This is a distressed struggle through fraud to get an upper hand in the midterm election.
DePosada, a RINO, and everyone who thinks like he does, is degrading the hispanic community. Hispanics, like everyone else, are capable of independent thinking AND VOTING! Please don't insult them by grouping them all together as sheeple who blindly follow the Democrat Party. As for "immigration reform", the People want the border secured. What is it that liberals can't understand about that? Our legal immigration system doesn't need to be reformed. It works fine. We just need to deal with ILLEGAL ALIENS and stop their invasion of America.
DePosada should be 'de pasada'aka -just passing by! And yes! I think somebody is getting paid to distract the Latinos away from voting -so the Republican and their rightist version -The Tea Party- may win!!