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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who is Mormon, responds to a question during a debate with Republican Sharron Angle in August 2010. Local Mormons say they have concerns about Reid’s liberal policies.
Sunday, Oct. 17, 2010 | 2 a.m.
Sharron Angle
Sun archives
Sun columns
- Brian Greenspun: Angle’s pastor poses a problem (10-10-2010)
- Jon RalstonThe voters’ blinding hatred of Harry Reid (8-8-2010)
Sun coverage
When Sharron Angle’s pastor went on a hate-filled rant about Mormonism, calling the religion “kooky” and a “cult,” it was tempting to assume the Republican U.S. Senate candidate would pay the consequences. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are among Nevada’s most politically engaged and conservative constituencies.
But it is Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, himself a Mormon, who is facing the tough questions from members of the faith.
That was apparent the moment he walked into a meeting of the Mormon Business Associates networking group in August. Members, angry with his liberal policies, peppered Reid with questions about immigration and gay marriage. They booed him, according to people who were there, and shouted catcalls.
“It was an absolute blood bath,” said a woman who attended.
Wednesday, it was Angle’s turn to appear before the group — and she was welcomed with cheers and a standing ovation. The woman who described Reid’s “blood bath” called the Angle event a “love fest.” The candidate was even signing autographs.
“She was on the home-team turf,” said Ron Futrell, a former TV sports reporter turned Republican political consultant who attended both events. “When Harry came, it was like he was on the visiting team. You’d think it would be the Mormon who would get the nice reception. It was the exact opposite.”
Mormons make up 7 percent of the Nevada population, according to the church. Leaders stress civic engagement and voting as sacred responsibilities, so turnout among church members is expected to be high. In the 2008 Republican presidential caucus, Mormons made up a quarter of the vote. Mitt Romney, a Mormon, captured 94 percent of their support.
Rallying the Mormon base won’t be easy for Reid, despite his shared religion. Reid has an uneasy, sometimes contentious relationship with some members of his church. An appearance by Reid at a Mormon chapel this year had to be canceled after members expressed anger over him potentially using the venue to gather votes.
Several LDS members interviewed by the Sun stressed that they see Reid as a good and respectable man of faith. But they don’t agree with his politics.
“I don’t think there’s this big hate from the members toward Harry,” said Cory Christensen, a Republican political consultant and LDS member whose brother Chad ran for Senate in the Republican primary. “Most people I know just disagree with him philosophically on real issues ... Some folks who are more his age that he grew up with will support him. But I don’t know anyone under age 50 who say they’re with Harry.”
Reid’s standing among church members appears to have eroded as he ascended the ranks of the Democratic Party. Reid is the highest-ranking Mormon in government.
“Harry, in 24 years in the Senate, has progressively become more of an East Coast liberal Democrat than a Nevada conservative Democrat,” Futrell said. “He’s counted on the LDS community for years and years to back him, which a lot of members have. But the LDS church is very conservative — we believe in less government and more liberty. Those are tenets of the religion and I think a lot of people in the community see Harry Reid as the opposite.”
A turning point came in 2006 when Reid voted against a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. Although Reid believes marriage should be between a man and woman, as the church teaches, he said the ban would “divide our society.”
In a rare move, LDS church leaders in Salt Lake City urged members to write elected officials and ask them to support the ban. When Reid didn’t, it opened a rift between him and members who concluded that his politics betrayed his religious beliefs.
Afterward, Reid wrote a letter to Mormon leaders in the Las Vegas Valley defending his position, saying gay marriage is a states’ issue in which the federal government shouldn’t play a role, a message he reiterated when he spoke to the Mormon business networking group. Futrell said some saw Reid’s explanation as a “convenient excuse.”
A 2009 survey conducted by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life found that nearly 65 percent of Mormons are Republican or Republican leaning. That’s 15 percentage points higher than members of evangelical churches and 30 points higher than the general population. Only 22 percent of Mormons said they are Democrats.
Angle’s message of reliance on the Constitution and a free-market economy resonates with the conservative LDS community, experts said. She’s also working hard to make herself known to Mormons.
For months she has met members at gatherings in private homes and businesses to explain where she’s coming from and the similarity of her beliefs with the teachings of the church. Angle told a story to the networking group about a Mormon girl she befriended in her youth. She said she attended church with the girl and participated in the church’s program for young women.
“We had her in our house in August and I was very impressed,” said Kenna Cooper, a Las Vegas Mormon. “I wanted to make sure she’s not wacky like she’s being portrayed. She’s not. She’s a good conservative mother and grandmother.”
Cooper said she decided to volunteer for Angle after the visit. Like other Mormons, she has canvassed and hosted phone banks.
To be sure, there are Mormons who support Reid, but they seem to be the minority, at least among members who openly share their political preferences.
Jay Evensen, editorial page editor for the Deseret News and a former Las Vegas reporter, said he returned to Nevada recently and reconnected with several Mormon friends who support Reid. “Why?” Evensen wrote in a column. “Sharron Angle is seen as too far out there.”
Evensen also pointed to the anti-Mormon comments by Angle’s pastor, a concern that some Las Vegas Mormons echoed. Pastor John Reed of Sonrise Church in Reno, which Angle stated was her church in her official legislative biography, accused the religion of having “hit squads” that “kill Mormons that go against them,” among other things.
Angle tried to distance herself from Reed, saying she shouldn’t be held responsible for other people’s comments and believes no one should be persecuted or ridiculed for their faith. When her pastor’s comments came up during her meeting with the Mormon networking group, Angle quoted scripture — 1 John 5:10: “Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because he has not believed the testimony God has given about his Son.”
Most of the group appeared to accept Angle’s word. But at least one woman who heard Angle speak didn’t buy her explanation.
“I would have asked her how she can prove to me that she doesn’t feel like my church is a cult,” the woman said. She declined to give her name because she said she feared repercussions for talking to the media.
The Mormon church, although certainly conservative in its views now, hasn’t always been in line with Republican and Tea Party philosophies. During the Depression and up to the middle of the century, the LDS church leaned Democratic, said Jan Shipps, an expert on Mormonism and a professor emeritus at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis. Only in the 1950s did it shift right, likely the effect of a conservative rising leader, Ezra Taft Benson, who was a supporter of the John Birch Society.
“It became more and more conservative until it almost seemed like being Republican and being Mormon were the same thing,” Shipps said.
Modern day influences such as conservative media personality Glenn Beck, who is a Mormon, keep the church on that path, Shipps said.
“I think it’s a time of extreme conservatism,” Shipps said. “I think even though Mitt Romney talks about being conservative, he is more liberal than Sharron Angle. I think if they ran against each other, Sharron Angle would win the Mormon vote.”
Towards the end of the article, Delen Goldberg quotes a woman remarking of Angle's explanation, "I would have asked her how she can prove to me that she doesn't feel like my church is a cult?"
Goldberg also reported, how Sharron Angle quoted from scripture when explaining her position, namely -- 1 John 5:10..... So short of carrying the unnamed woman on her back through the desert, I doubt Ms Angle could have said or done anything else to convince the nay sayer.
The real problem here belongs to Mr Reid.... It's the positions he takes on Capital Hill that fly in the face of all he professes to believe as a Mormon. So it looks like Harry Reid is just another MINO. No wonder the elders don't want him anywhere near the Temple while he's in town.
"Modern day influences such as conservative media personality Glenn Beck, who is a Mormon, keep the church on that path, Shipps said."
So, the complete wack-job Glen Beck keeps Mormons on their "Neo-Con" path? Which got it's conservative roots from the John Birch Society? And their own Mittens Romney isn't "conservative" enough?
I know quite a few folks of the Morman faith, and I just haven't heard that kind of outright, blatent EXTREMISM from them. (Perhaps it's my heathen influence...wink wink.)
Why is it that religious-based political groups now go HARD RIGHT?
It doesn't even come CLOSE to the teachings of any organized religion that I'm familiar with. In fact, some religions have done a 180 over the years...swinging left to right; How can you embrace the hateful, selfish "I, ME, Mine" dogma of today's Neo-Con, for example, and call yourself "Christian"? In large measure, it boils down to one ugly word: ABORTION.
If the Dem's would denounce abortion rights for women, the crackpots on the right in today's version of "Conservative Republican" would lose voters by the tens of thousands in a nano-second.
Harry Reid is the most powerful Mormon in American politics, but Mormons i talked with say Reid being a Democrat instead of a Republican prevents them from really liking or supporting him.
But Glenn Beck is a "good" Mormon, go figure..
Freedom of religion, Noone should have a problem with that, just don't mix religion with government.
Make sure our government stands strong and our citizens stay protected, AT ALL TIMES!
No special interests before our Constitution or before our citizens.
Harry can't be trusted any more because he has put his special interests before our Constitution and our citizens.
How can he be the best choice for Senator when he doesn't even know what is going on in Nevada?
It is time for Harry to retire.
There were German jews who thought Hitler would bring peace to Germany and restore it to greatness and that his anti=semitism was just a political ploy that would disappear once he gained office and had to be responsible.
I'm a Mormon under the age of 50 who is voting for Harry Reid. He's done a lot for Nevada. I'm not his biggest fan, but when you look at Sharron Angle's voting record it speaks for itself. A vote for Sharron Angle because Harry Reid is a democrat and you're Mormon is reckless. Better to not cast your vote in that race.
Why do these judgemental,conservative Tea Party Republicans want the government to stay out of their business but then want government impose laws on how to live, and who they can marry? They rally for constitutional freedom but only for themselves?
Religion should be left out of politcs it casues conflict/hate/oppression/racism around the world.
Enjoyed the article.
And it proves beyond a reasonable doubt that politics and religion don't mix.
But I'd like to point out one thing that is apparent about Sharron Angle showing up at this event. It just continues a trend that she does. And this is a continuation from the one debate she had with Senator Reid. And a continuation of showing up on Fox News and Heidi Harris and other ultra right wing commentators.
Sharron Angle does not talk substance. She is more interested in a sound byte that will make her look good. She craves and yearns for that BOO YAH! IN YOUR FACE! moment continually. She's desperately searching for that "Swift Boat" instance or some other charge she can level at Senator Reid. Because she knows she cannot sway voters her way by talking about processes or issues. That's all she's got. She's empty. She's a problem creator, not a problem solver. All she knows is she wants to be in power...and serving constituents in Nevada is not a big priority for her when she gets in power. In other words, if she gets in, she will compliment Senator Ensign wonderfully. Because they could both out do each other in the useless department.
So, in the next two weeks or so, we'll continue to see these types of theatrics from her. Because she has nothing else.
I believe the Mormon church is going through a transition, if the current leader continues to spew his hatred, I believe the church will either see a split, or they will admit he is not the leader God has given. Harry Reid takes his responsibilities to heart, he will express his personal views, but will vote for the good of all.
Sharron on the other hand is on a mission from God, a very white God,
Look at this line from Angle: "reliance on the Constitution and a free-market economy".
Angle claims that the 'separation of church and state is unconstitutional', so WHICH CONSTITUTION is she referring to? The one that is written or the one in her head that she has constructed. This is called 'doublespeak'.
The 'free-market economy' means deregulation, and that means getting the Government out of the Real Estate and Banking industry. Record foreclosures so large they had to be halted, and this has been building since 2006. 320 Bank Failures since 2000.
The FREE MARKET ECONOMY means NO RULES and the privilated use YOUR MONEY freely. 'Free Market Economy' is doublespeak, meaning FREE MONEY for finance and executives and Bank Failures for the rest.
And Angle STILL WANTS DEREGULATION! Get ready for school closures and giving your pension money to the banking executives with no guarantees...get ready for the Romanov option.
Good point, if social security is privatized the stock market and bonuses to Wall St would go throu the roof!
I dont trust banks handling my retirement the way they handled peoples homes.
Angle has no background in business or understanding of how economics work in this country, the free market doesnt care about people, only profits for elites.
I hope the right wing media brainwashing that privatization and tax cuts will benefit the majority doesnt succeed, the only thing we peasants have left is our vote!
Religion doesn't pay the bills. Sen. Reid could bring in billions to Nevada in the next six years because of his clout and influence. The math is easy. Why is the voting part so hard for some people?
"A turning point came in 2006 when Reid voted against a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage... he said the ban would "divide our society." In a rare move, LDS church leaders in Salt Lake City urged members to write elected officials and ask them to support the ban. When Reid didn't, it opened a rift between him and members who concluded that his politics betrayed his religious beliefs."
Goldberg -- good article.
Any group of people can easily develop a herd mentality. Reid correctly separated church and state on this issue -- his oath is to the Constitution, not to his church.
It's quite unfortunate the herd can't see the difference between their bibles and the promises of the republic we live in, or that the very protections they enjoy to spew their opinions and demands are also enjoyed by the rest of us who neither believe like they do nor live our lives by their standards. We are each entitled to be protected from them when they seek to turn their beliefs into public policy.
Unfortunately, candidates desperate for our votes do pander. In this context it's no wonder Thomas Jefferson's word for the bible was "dunghill."
"As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?" -- John Adams, letter to FA Van der Kamp, December 27, 1816
Based on the past twenty years, Harry Reid will not bring anything substantial to Nevada.
Harry's clout and influence has just about bankrupted Nevada and this country.
No, voting for Sharron Angle will be quite easy...
Reid supported Nevada's ban on gay marriage.
Reid believes it is a state's rights issue and not a Federal issue and that is why he voted against Federal version of a ban on gay marriage.
He voted for DOMA, too, which allows states like Nevada to ignore gay marriages from other states.
The Mormon card:
First, the writer attempts to defend the Mormon religion by pointing out the negative comments about the "cult" accusation.
In the same article, we read about the pattern of behavior and expectations that Mormons support Mormons - Mitt Romney was mentioned with his 94% support.
We read about Reid writing letters to the "Mormon Leaders" in the community, (obviously worried about the Mormon agenda).
We read this article from the Las Vegas Sun - a rabid institutional supporter of Harry Reid -- with a very robust representation of Latter Day Saints on the employee roster.
This brings us right back the CULT question! This religion is "clan-ish", "crony-ish" and yes, "bully-ish" when they want power and support of the Mormon agenda at large! Yet, they FREAK when someone raises the CULT question...
This article does nothing but verify the strange and cult-like expectations of one Mormon from another - just because they're both Mormons.
Let's face it, the Mormon religion is bizarre and for anyone to follow it must have a few bricks shy from a full load. However, all religions are somewhat bizarre and are nothing more than crutches for the weak and hypocrites.
That said, religion needs to get out of politics.
And for the kooky Mormons to back California's Prop 8 we can only hope the Fed's investigate and shut down the Mormon cult.
While Reid is the correct person to win the election, being Mormon means he will block any Fed investigation into the cult backing the funding of Prop 8.
Mormons = hate = Satan.
My vote goes to the woman with crazy eyes - as nuts and misguided as she is - we want Mormons out of politics.
At 2:44 PM Friday 10/15/2010 on "the Jerry Doyle Show" heard on KDWN 720AM, Wayne Alan Root, who writes for the other paper in town said: "Harry Reid was a member of the Mormon Mafia."
He then went on to guest host the Alan Stock Show on kxnt 840AM ar 3:07 PM the same day. This guy gets around (pay to play = payola Wayne?)
The Mormon religion makes no endorsements and stays out of political races. If it did, don't you thing Harry would get the endorsement being a Mormon?
Mormons as individuals stand for free agency and the rights to choose. All they ask in return is the same. So its the people that is the voting block, not the religion.
They reject any plan that saves everyone from themselves.
We are at a crossroads in this country, we can have the right to choose and be free, or we can be saved by force from anything bad that MAY happen, but it will cost is our freedom.
"Let's face it, the Mormon religion is bizarre and for anyone to follow it must have a few bricks shy from a full load..... Mormons = hate = Satan."
Carroll -- some parts of the religion could be considered "bizarre," but the exact thing can be said of Free Masons, Catholicism, the KKK and any other group using rituals and unusual garb. Your "= Satan" conclusion is way off.
I grew up 5th-generation LDS, I have ancestors prominent in church history and its founding, who suffered grievously for their faith, I served an honorable mission, participated in the ceremonies in several temples, and am one of the few of my generation who no longer have a use for it. That said, I'm telling you and your ilk from a position of first-hand knowledge unless you've been on the inside of it then the outside as I have, your opinion is just empty hot air over something you don't understand. Look up "buffoon."
mred -- I'd love to hear what you have to back up your post's Senator Reid "was a member of the Mormon Mafia" and what exactly the MM is supposed to be?
"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781-82
Ron Futrell mentioned in the article went from anchor man to sports guy to weatherman to reporter, then fired after an alleged "hit and run" in the spaghetti Bowl. (charges dropped after the guy he hit was paid damages).
Of course, after the incident he went on the "conservative fixers" talk radio show, The Alan Stock Republican News Show. For thirty minutes, he told Alan how he was a "victim and was left dazed and confused after the accident.
Stock also associated himself with Sean Hannity's 2 star rated vetrans charity that was critisized by VoteVets and CREW - Citizens for Responsiblity and Ethics in Washington. The charity has a low ratio of getting money to Vets it claims it helps.
Futrell was then given a newsman job on kxnt for a time.
Of course, when it's Charles Darling accused of drunk driving, Stock took to the air along with then Station Manger Jack Landreth and repeatedly trashed Darling and defended the police, before all the facts were in.
You see if it is a working man like Darling, or a harried mother who leaves her kid in the car on a hot day, Alan Stock and his type have no mercy, but if it is a "conservative" like Futrell, scandel plagued Senator John Ensign or a pill-popping Rush Limbaugh, Alan Stock makes the airwaves available to defend these individuals.
One standard for his cronies, another for everyone else. He eminates the same hypocracy as his hero Sharon Angle.
Nationally syndicated Las Vegas based talk host Jerry Doyle, whose show the anti-LDS bigoted comment was tendered, suffers from the same hypocrisy. (He claims to be the 7th largest talk show, but he is only on live in a handful of markets, Vegas, Victorville, and a small New England station.)
Of course, a big defender of Sharon Angle and trash-er of Reid. "Harry Reid is the biggest piece of crap to hit the Senate floor." He and Wayne Alan Root chortled over how "Harry Reid had a stroke."
Recently however, Dolye, who claims military expertise because he commanded a cardboard space ship on a low budget Sci-Fi TV show "Babylon Five,"
was in a coma because: "his live in girlfriend of 7 years (20 years younger than Doyle) left him and he stopped taking his blood pressure pills."
Of course, after he got back on the air after a month absence, he proceeded to attack, Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears...great targets of opportunity Mr. "family value" Doyle. He doesn't apparently have the same outrage when it comes to nude pictures of his ex-wife all over the Internet. Welcome to the world of hypocritical hate talk radio...Vote for Sharon Angle.
Jerry Doyle, Wayne Root, Alan Stock, Ron Futrell, John Ensign ET AL see "Mormons" as useful idiots for the agenda. The family values crap is just something they pay lip-service too. Someone should ask Ensign about taking trips paid for with "terrorist tainted" money.
Most voters must know that Mormons are programmed to a highly theocratic organization at a very early age. Mormons I have known all my life have never voted their conscience, and they never will!! They must first of all, contact their Bishops, which in turn they will contact Salt Lake City, Then and only then, will they vote their Republican (Mormon) conscience. Sad but in this day and age that still happens. That explains their hatred for Harry Reid, he's out of step with the Church!!!
There are some really intelligent comments today. I enjoy reading them.
I have long wondered how the Mormon Church could support Mr. extreme liberal Harry Reid. Mormons are conservative people and Harry's policies fly in the face of every stance of the Mormon Church. Good for them to come out in favor of Sharron Angle.
"They must first of all, contact their Bishops, which in turn they will contact Salt Lake City,"
azstripper1 -- at least until 2002 (last time I was active LDS), and according to recent heated discussions on Prop 8 with other family members still active, your statement is a load of crap. I was never told how to vote and neither were they.
mred -- I see you had nothing to say about your "Mormon Mafia" comment.
"Let's face it, the Mormon religion is bizarre and for anyone to follow it must have a few bricks shy from a full load. However, all religions are somewhat bizarre and are nothing more than crutches for the weak and hypocrites."
Let's face it too, that the vast majority of people receive their teachings via karma.
To those of the Mormon Faith it would be wise to consider the views of the Tea Party Candidates. They want to repeal the regulations on big banks, corporations, and oil companies who are responsible for a lot of our outsourcing of jobs. They want little government control. Does that mean no regulation on clean water,
safe foods, automobile safety, and many others? What would happen if we had another oil spill? Where would that help come from? Do we want to have oil drilling in the Arctic National Wild Refuge?
The Tea Party Candidates also want to do away with public school education, student loans, Pell Grants,
and the minimum wage. They want to phase out social security and Medicare. They are against giving benefits to the unemployed. Sharron Angle had said, she never said that the unemployed are too lazy to work. This is another lie. She absolutely did say it. There is a bill now being stalled in the Senate to give aid to those who have been unemployed the longest. They are known as the 99ers. The Republicans will not vote to pass it. If Tea Party candidates get elected this may be even more difficult to pass. These people are not lazy. They are trying to find work and should not be penalized.
For those of you who are not sure of what Harry Reid has done for Nevada you can google:
harryreid.com/content/pages/a
In regards to unemployment, this has been a terrible time for all of those unemployed However according to many economists this could take another few years to get out of. We can not put the entire blame on Obama.
When George Bush was president he would not admit we were in a recession. One of his advisers had said we were in a "psychological recession", what ever that means? One bit of good news according to Erin Burnett
This has been the fastest job creation in the recovery than in any other recession in 25 years. So hopefully we are at least heading in the right direction.
Please don't forget to vote in this very important election.....
According to our experts:
"This has been the fastest job creation in the recovery than in any other recession in 25 years."
The Obama Administration and Harry have created so many new jobs that unemployment is now over 14%.
Good job guys...
Killer B, no disrespect, but truth to say the beehive emblem not only denotes the Mormon's work ethic, it also reminds one of the Queen Bee's ability to control all the colony's workers by the use of Pheromones!!!?
"Killer B, no disrespect, but truth to say the beehive emblem not only denotes the Mormon's work ethic, it also reminds one of the Queen Bee's ability to control all the colony's workers by the use of Pheromones!!!?"
azstripper1 -- the beehive symbol's origin is from the Book of Mormon, you're right on the work ethic. The "queen bee" and "pheronomes" is without basis in either fact or history.
I basically have a problem with any belief system, or person, that has to tear down others for its own validity.
"There is no hell. There is only France." -- the late Frank Zappa in "You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore"
NEVADA!!!!!! THE TIME IS NOW!!!! Do America Proud!!!GET RID OF REID!!!
The Mormon vote: More faith in Sharron Angle? This is the title of this Article- I thank the Las Vegas Sun reporters who help the voter realize how dirty Politics can be.Their efforts of make Senator Reid out to be a Concern caring Politician only back fired on him.
People from different religions might not agree on how to serve God. I as a Southern Baptist would vote for a Mormon, or a Jew, or a Muslim, that makes no difference. I WILL NOT vote for Senator Reid who happens to be a Mormon, not because of his religious beliefs, Senator Reid cares more about the interest of illegal aliens than he does for Citizens of this Country, and that is one of the main reasons why he will be voted out of office this November. In the debate with Sharron Angle Senator Reid looked like it was below his pay grade to even be there, he insults the intelligence of the American public, this election to him is nothing more than an ego trip. I am sick of politicians like Senator Reid, there Republican Politicians who need to get the boot also.JOHN ENSIGN, and I say that as a Republican Reid, and Ensign both need to go.
So those in the magic underwear turn on their own? How can they call themselves Mormons? They always stick together. And to think they would vote for someone like Angle who despises them? Boy the hate mongering runs deep. Brainwashing by FOX News has achieved their goal. Mama mormons eating their own, how elloquent.
I HATE prejudice of any kind. All these comments about Mormons is making me ill. How dare you make comments about a God fearing CHRISTIAN religion. Now it's Harry Reid vs his Mormon religion after 24 for years of service to our Country?? This crazy woman is a nazi, who wants Hilter back in power!, with all the hatred that exsisted before. I saw this "up close and personel" when attending Reid's rally last Tuesday. NOW YOU HATERS, LISTEN UP..I refuse TO HATE MORMONS!! They are entitled to their religious believes, as we all are. You Hilter lovers need to get out of OUR COUNTRY!! AND TAKE NAZI SHARRON WITH YOU!!
This is exactly why Harry Reid believes in the
separation of church and state.
Keep religion out of politics.
Sharron Angle and Glenn Beck are the best example
of out of control, religious nuts.
The Mormons like Angle because she isn't smart and is easily manipulated. Sen Reid, who they loved under George Bush, is now not as effective because he is serving a Democratic President and will not be Senate President after next session.
Alex2- What are you talking about, NAZI, what does Hitler have to do with this? How can Sharron Angle want Hitler back in power, Hitler is dead,,,
Harry Reid is on his way to a solid win.
Wow, am I surprised that most Mormons are just as big of nutbags as Angle? NO!
When left wingers have nothing worthwhile to add to a discussion, they start with their Hitler Nazi crap...
pmontg, of Course Hilter is dead, but his ideas live on in people like Hitler Sharron Mangles. She just loves prejudice, she has shown it many, may times. If that crazy nut ever get elected, I know I'll be safe because I have blond hair and blue eyes.
Reasons to OUST REID:
Take note of HARRY'S LIES at the debate:
LIE#1: Angle is Extreme and is wrong on the SOCIAL SECURITY issue.
FACT: SOCIAL SECURITY is in the RED according to the CATO INSTITUTE:
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/social-se...
Which means that Social Security is paying out MORE THAN IT IS TAKING IN.
LIE#2: Health Insurance companies are DESTROYING the economy with their profits!!
FACT: Health Insurance companies have only a 2% profit margin according to AP's Woodard Fact Check: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/...
So why aren't the liberals screaming "separation of church and state"? They do it when it suits their agenda. But, I guess Reid gets a pass.
"Enjoyed the article.
And it proves beyond a reasonable doubt that politics and religion don't mix."
The real religous people have their fights within, which make quite a difference in their behaviour, because they do not fall as easily in the trap of the usual temptations.
An organized church and its adherents, usually believe to possess "the truth" and are therefore mainly concerned about the behaviour of other people, which leads to the quest for political power and is of course a symptom of corruption.
I am a Christian but Sharon Angle does not represent Christian values. She wants to get rid of Social Security and Medicare. She thinks these are welfare programs - well, I guess if I didn't have Medicare, I wouldn't be able to go to the doctor - I'm retired and living on social security. I barely make it. She also has said she thinks the unemployed are lazy and should get jobs. Well, where are the jobs. She's for the elite rich people and giving them a tax break. She says this will create jobs. Where are the jobs? they've had the tax cut for 10 years- where are the jobs? Sharon Angle needs to read the book of Mathew. If she was truly a Christian she wouldn't have forgotten what Christ said.
"I am a Christian but Sharon Angle does not represent Christian values."
Boy, someone sure thinks a lot of himself.
From your untrusted but loved commenter...
"I am a Christian but Sharon Angle does not represent Christian values."
You're an American and the idol you worship is the USA patriot4america. The so called "christian" right, actually represents "American" values.
I guess that new $700/M VA hospital in N. Las Vegas built itself. Perhaps the new jobs it will create will fall from heaven.
Sen. Ted Stevens was a legend in Alaska. His power came from his seniority in the senate. Money talks and the people of Alaska were smart enough to keep re-electing him.
Nevada needs to support Sen. Reid in the same way and for the same reasons.
There are interns in Washington with more government experience than Sharon Angle.
Who cares about religion.
"Money. Power. Respect."
Just think... Senator Sharron Angle will get to preside over the ribbon-cutting ceremony at the new Las Vegas VA hospital...
Good bye Senator Reid
LarryVegas.... You say, "Just think... Senator Sharron Angle will get to preside over the ribbon-cutting ceremony at the new Las Vegas VA hospital..." Even though Sharron Angle said the VA should be phased out and turned into a for-profit enterprise? I know, she now says she never said that--but she says that about just about everything she used to say.
I am an LDS convert. When I was "young," I was more politically active than I am Now. I served as a precinct committeeperson in my home legislative district in Washington State. I happened to be a Democrat, as I still am. When my fellow Democrats found out I was a "Mormon," I was told repeatedly that it was impossible for me to be a "good Democrat" and a "Mormon." At the same time, My associates in the Church told me that it was impossible for me to be a "good Mormon" and a Democrat. I believe that the ensuing 35-plus years have proven both elements wrong, but that's just my opinion. My primary reason for supporting and voting for Senator Reid is his seniority. When the noble electorate of Nevada replaced Howard Cannon with Chic Hecht in 1982, the result was the "Screw Nevada" bill and Yucca Mountain. I don't know about history repeating itself, but I am not willing to take the chance.
@deanofdawgs, the only good democrat is the one not getting re-elected.
"My primary reason for supporting and voting for Senator Reid is his seniority."
Yes, Harry Reid is senior. You can tell that when he can't find his closing notes, or remember that he said "The War is Lost" and the surge is not working...