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ASSOCIATED PRESS FILE
Republican Senate candidate Sharron Angle, shown last month, was interviewed Saturday in Las Vegas at a free speech event that was closed to most media.
Sunday, Oct. 10, 2010 | 2 a.m.
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- Sharron Angle pastor: As a Mormon, Harry Reid is cult member (10-7-2010)
- Raggio: I’m with Reid, against Angle because she’s so extreme, but still against Obama’s agenda (10-7-2010)
- Sharron Angle offers juice to Tea Party of Nevada opponent (10-5-2010)
- Angle has proposed insurance mandates (10-3-2010)
- Harry Reid inching ahead of Sharron Angle, new poll finds (9-25-2010)
- Angle slams mandated coverage for autism treatment in new video from Democrats’ tracker (9-22-2010)
- Sharron Angle advocates halting unemployment benefits to force jobless to seek work (6-30-2010)
Republican U.S. Senate candidate Sharron Angle on Saturday bashed “favor-buying pork” politicians, seemingly oblivious to the hypocrisy of her remarks given that she offered her own political “juice” as leverage in trying to persuade a third-party candidate to drop out of the race.
While talking about the health care reform bill that Congress passed this year, Angle said: “We don’t need some kind of favor-buying pork ... Harry Reid isn’t just another vote. He pushed it, he promoted it, he made the deals.”
Angle made the comment during a Las Vegas rally, billed as a free speech event intended to “clear up misconceptions,” but to which the press and supporters of other candidates were unwelcome.
I was spotted midway through the rally and was told it was a “closed event” but was allowed to remain.
Hundreds of Angle supporters crammed into the Blue Martini in Town Square — an ironic venue given Angle’s disapproval of alcohol — to hear their candidate answer questions from conservative radio host Heidi Harris, a supporter who called herself the “official defender of Sharron Angle.”
Although Angle answered more than two dozen questions about education, immigration, health care and Social Security, she was not asked about, nor did she make any reference to, a secretly-taped conversation she had with Tea Party of Nevada candidate Jon Scott Ashjian, in which she said that if he dropped out of the race and she were elected, she would use her influence for his benefit.
“Whatever juice I have, you have as well,” Angle told Ashjian. “You want to see (U.S. Sen. Jim) DeMint? I have juice with DeMint. I go to D.C., say ‘I want to see Jim DeMint,’ he’s there for me.”
Angle’s conversation with Ashjian triggered headlines across the country and dominated talk of the campaign last week. Harris didn’t ask about it.
She did ask Angle about Mormons, in response to comments Angle’s pastor made last week calling the religion “a cult.”
Angle didn’t denounce statements made by John Reed, pastor of Sonrise Church in Reno, but did say she honors the Mormon faith.
“The LDS church is stellar,” Angle said, noting that Mormons defend marriage and life, values she holds dear. “I respect their efforts.”
Angle and Harris also took several opportunities to bash the mainstream media, which Angle has snubbed throughout her campaign, favoring instead conservative pundits who ask her softball questions and allow her to solicit donations — both of which Harris, who called political reporters “little cockroaches” — did Saturday.
“We always say, ‘If the press comes knocking, don’t say anything,’” Angle said.
Angle hit other key points:
• She said she believes autism is real but mandates to cover the disorder are a Band-Aid solution.
• She reversed her position on unemployment benefits, saying that “in some ways we need that safety net” (she previously said unemployment benefits “spoiled our citizenry”).
• She called a planned high-speed train between Las Vegas and Victorville, Calif., “an express train to nowhere.”
• She said that if elected, she plans to sponsor a bill on term limits for every elected official from dogcatcher to Supreme Court justice.
Angle did not say how long those term limits would be or set a time frame for her own political career.
“No good soldier tells their exit strategy,” she said, criticizing Republicans DeMint and U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma for doing so.
CORRECTION: A quote in this story was changed from "favor-buying whore," as was initially published, to "favor-buying pork" after a spokesman for the Sharron Angle campaign contacted the reporter Sunday night and offered an audio recording of the event to set the record straight. | (October 10, 2010)
Her hypocrisy is verbalized almost every time she opens her mouth, from her decrying backroom deals while trying to push the Tea Party candidate off the ballot, to her supposed respect for the Constitution.
Term limits for federal offices were largely left out of the Constitution because the founding fathers thought it was a bad idea. The majority decided they would not institute term limits for federal positions. I wasn't until after Roosevelt that they amended the Constitution to add limits for the presidency.
I guess she's not a strict Constitutionalist, either.
.....and I'm not afraid to verbalize Sharron Fraud Angle is nothing but a backstabbing, backtracking, ignorant, idiotic and clueless white thrash nutcase.
Repukeblicans are shaking their heads everytime the nutcase mouths off for it makes all of them look like idiots. Hahahaha!
The LV Sun can't stand the thought of Angle ahead in the polls. Reid is sinking like a rock.
Im sure that (soon to be) Senator Angle didnt mean to terrorize this biased reporter. Harry Greed should have written this article himself. Thats one big reason he is going to lose ..thanks to left wing biased media like this article represents.
Mud-slinging-whore-Harry has not run a very reputable campaign at all. His constituents are complaining that they now don't know when Harry is telling the truth or not. They claim that he's lied so much during his campaign that they don't know when he's telling the truth anymore.
You all know when Harry's lying don't you? You're absolutly right, and a Democrat even got that one,
when his lips are flapping.
"Favor-buying whore" Sharron Angle says, i love it when this "Moma Grizzly" talks dirty, you betcha. .
:-)
Does anyone know if the Nevada Brothel Association supports Sharron Angle?
Just curious.
:-)
No they don't Markey, but they sure liked the way you performed the other night, on stage, that is.
We can kiss Nevada goodbye if this woman is elected!
@ LV Sun: Its the comments like this punk Tony Crago that makes this forum suck....I'm a conservative right person and excuse me not inbred. Educate yourself chump before you open your liberal mouth.
There is only one Hypocrit and that is
Harry Reid!!!!!!
It's a sad state of affairs, given the choices we have. Harry Reid may not be the answer for Nevada, but anyone that thinks Sharron Angle is better for Nevada has not been paying attention.
Hei' de Hei' de HO is the "Official Defender" of CraZy AngLe???
I guess if you work for a dinky little AM radio station with zero credibility and no ratings, you can say the darndest things and NO ONE WILL HEAR IT. Media Cockroaches, INDEED!!!
Angle:
"Tonight, I repudiate EVERYTHING I'VE SAID PREVIOUSLY! In order to get elected, I'm going to say EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT I BELIEVE! (crowd boo's!) Don't worry folks, once I'm in...I'll be the same hateful, vile individual I've ALWAYS BEEN!"
"Now, I would like to thank the Blue Martini for hosting my "misinformation campaign" tonight! Free
JUICE for EVERYONE... it's CREME DeMINT! Don't drink too much, it's POTENT! And Don't drive drunk...my juice won't help you with that! Thanks for all the "anyone but Harry" votes; I realize you
think I'm cuckoo and won't have enough JUICE to ruin the country if elected... but mark my words, fellow NutJobs, I WILL TRY!!!" (gratuitous applause).
Sure she's stupid and crazy. But she's got my vote because I can't vote for Harry "The War is Lost" Reid.
Just for fun, I checked the ratings for Hei' de Hei' de HO's KDWN...
26th rated station in Las Vegas... 26th! with a 1.0 share... NICE NUMBERS, Hei' de!!!
I didn't know there were 26 stations to rate!
Now, THAT'S what I call JUICE!!!
http://ratings.radio-online.com/cgi-bin/...
A "Free Speech" event where only Ms. Angle is allowed to speak... I'm speechless. Or at least I would have been if I were even allowed at the event.
Calling Sen. Reid a "favor-buying whore"... Ms. Angle sees herself in a slightly different light. She's a "favor-buying escort".
And I would also like to give a big thanks to Ms. Harris, the AM talk radio wacko who calls herself the "official defender of Sharron Angle." Without her "help" the people of Nevada would never have seen Ms. Angle for the hypocrite she truly is. I'm sure the 8 or 9 people that listen to AM radio at 5:00 am think differently, but that pretty much goes without saying.
Ms. Harris is the worst kind of political shill. Bashing the "Mainstream Media" shows one important fact, neither Ms. Angle or Ms. Harris belong in the mainstream or in the media.
I don't believe in censorship (despite what Ms. Harris says about Liberals), but I'm not willing to listen to a station that's insulting to the intelligence of the listeners that keep the station on the air. I'm one of many people that now listen to things other than the station that Ms. Harris is affiliated with and I'm not afraid to tell other people how I feel.
And that's true meaning of "Free Speech".
Angle is a very surreal individual living in a parallel universe...hard to believe she has support from any rational people.
Our worse enemy is our own amnesia and our gullibility NOT to understand these corrupted politicians are laughing at us. "Politicians" are becoming distinct; We need "Statesmen (and women) " with character. We hold the most powerful weapon to neutralize this upheaval, OUR VOTER REGISTRAION CARD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVAhr4hZD...
I'm an Independent
Sharron Angle talking dirty would be more effective if she held a Colt M1911 pistol while doing it, just sayin . .
We have term limits already. They are called elections.
Oshikuru said:
"Sure she's stupid and crazy. But she's got my vote ..."
WOW!!!
You have to look pass the bias of this newspaper and ask yourself just how much has Harry spoken the truth? It's all opinion and in ours, Harry is the one who is bad for Nevada...If you lost your job, home, etc... and vote for Reid, you have NO RIGHT in complaining as you did nothing to FIX WHAT WE KNOW DOES NOT WORK! Bad Reid Bad Senator http://aBadReid.com
"THIS woman openly HATES government, by her own very loud public record of numerous assertions. She won't lift a finger in support of the needs of her NV constituents."
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That is why sane Nevada Republicans will vote for Reid, seriously.
What a strange gal she is. Seriously wacko. If she wins, I guess she will be legislating by whatever voices she is currently hearing inside her head.
What a strange guy he is. Seriously wacko and crooked. If he wins, I guess he will be legislating by whoever brings the most cash to his and his family's bank accounts.
Sharron angle wishes to thank all you little obama/gReid wackos for your hate filled attacks on her character. Now its time for you to take your medication and go back to bed. After all you have no job to worry about going to so sleep well. We will wake you on Nov 3.
She called a planned high-speed train between Las Vegas and Victorville, Calif., "an express train to nowhere."
Yeah, like Victorville is the center of the Universe.
It's basically a burger and restroom stop on the way to LA from Vegas or Vice versa.
A train to Victorville is the stupidest waste of money ever, oddly enough, something Reid favors.
Not sure how political this observation is but... That picture of Sharron Angle is creepy as hell. I think I'm traumatized for life and will surely experience nightmares tonight.
The writer complains about this event not being "open" but she was allowed in to report on what happened.
Makes no sense unless you conclude the author just wanted to find something to bash Angle about.
Sad.
Sadly, libs just don't get it.
Some quotes from Thomas Jefferson
(Warning, If you LOVE Reid, Pelosi, and Obama, you're not going to like this):
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
The majority will speak on election day. Dingy Harry and Dina Taxes are behind in the polls and will be FIRED.
One big butterfly net.
I'm not exactly doing cart-wheels over Angle either however you've got your choice folks; It's either Obama's Socialist agenda and his right hand man, Reid, or Angle. I choose the latter. Sorry but I just haven't the stomach to call Obama a President or Reid a Senator.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u42wzteBF...
Big signal, little numbers based on the fact that Beasley Broadcasting is a political hack. A herd of cows passing gas would get better ratings than HH. She contends Reid made up the account of a car booby-trap based on what an admitted mobster says. Good souring, Heidi.
I'm surprised the teanuts didn't require the reporter to put on a yellow LM ("liberal media") armband on.
Did Angle have a "Shirley Temple?"
A lot of Democrates are good and patriots also. They just got caught up in Obama's con game that is coming to a head now. This "Hope and Change" rhetoric was like trying to sell a Rolex watch and not knowing what the real movements were.
Closed media event? They let a biased reporter like you in. The Sun and it's reporters (JournLists) are a joke.
When is Chicken Reid going to come out from hiding?
Re: the quote about America ceasing to exist when we "take away from those who are willing to work," etc,: Is this the problem now? Is it that unemployed middle-class Americans are unwilling to work or that there just aren't enough jobs? The reason unemployment is so high is that Bush-era policies allowed banks full control to make money by scamming exactly those same middle-class people. It's the Republicans who aren't rewarding those willing to work--by ensuring that there aren't the jobs for them to do it.
Some "free speech" rally, where the press is "unwelcome"! Mrs. Angle, you can run but you can't hide.
A FREE PRESS, WHICH leads to an informed populace, is essential to liberty. As Thomas Jefferson put it,
"The basis of our government being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate for a moment to prefer the latter."
"A free press is not a privilege but an organic necessity in a great society." WALTER LIPPMANN
BWAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Hypocrisy? Consistency of thought and action is for losers.
november-red:
{{Sharron angle wishes to thank all you little obama/gReid wackos for your hate filled attacks on her character. Now its time for you to take your medication and go back to bed. After all you have no job to worry about going to so sleep well. We will wake you on Nov 3.}}
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She said in Mesquite, NV the other day that Sharia law has overtaken Dearborn, MI and Frankford, TX. Never mind that Frankford, Texas doesn't exist since it was annexed by Dallas in 1975, that is seriously crazy stuff she is espousing. She can be wacky doodle dandy on her own time, but not on my dime if she is elected. Repeating what she has said publicly are not hate filled attacks. I'm sorry the woman you want to be senator says nutty things all the time, but she does and then denies that she ever said such things. It's on tape and/or video for all to see.
All this talk about the Democrats being socialists is funny, except to the real socialists. But you Tea Partiers don't care for the facts.
"Socialism? Hardly, Say Socialists" http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnfl...
Wow - speaking of hate filled... what about your article? I thought press was supposed to be "unbiased"? There is certainly bias in this article!
Wow...Someone thinks press is unbiased!!! Good one, Susan. Were you born yesterday?
flip flopper a fish outta water heartless hateful biotch that will always serve millionaire corporations aka small business
'Angle made the comment during a Las Vegas rally, billed as a free speech event intended to "clear up misconceptions," but to which the press and supporters of other candidates were unwelcome.'
There is definitely something very wrong with this woman.
She can't restrict participation and still say its a "free speech" event.
She can't expect to occupy a national office and only speak to conservative media outlets.
That's cowardly behavior, Sharron. What are you running from? What are you afraid of?
It's easy to complain, whine, and criticize, Sharron, but no one should vote for you if you have presented no clear solutions to our problems. I haven't heard one. You say privatize social security, but you never tell us whether our money will be underwritten by an insurance company to cover losses when the market fails, or will Wall Street be responsible for insuring that we don't lose our entire retirement savings?
Too many complaints, too much criticism, too much demonizing of one's opponent, too, too few viable solutions.
If Sharron runs from those whom she doesn't want to face now, how will she treat one of us if she wins the election and we approach her with a question about the reason she voted a particular way on a bill?
My guess is that she'll blow us off just like she's blowing off the media.
There is no "lamestream media," only the fear of cowards who want our votes but don't want to be subjected to public scrutiny.
We already have stealth bombers that can do a lot of damage while remaining unseen, and we certainly don't need stealth candidates who refuse to reveal who they really are until they get into office and do further damage to us and our country.
I don't care if someone who dislikes Barack Hussein Obama doesn't want to call him President Obama. Heads of state around the world who are definitely more powerful than you are don't mind calling him President Obama. You may have problems calling him President Obama, but they don't.
No matter what you say/do, Barack Hussein Obama is President of the United States and the most powerful man in the world, and there's nothing you can do about it.
My dearly departed parents used to tell us kids, "One monkey don't stop no show," and they were right.
Just because you don't like that Obama is president, and just because you scream socialism when you can't even explain the word, changes nothing. Obama is president, will remain president until 2012, will run for president again, and be re-elected. Wait and see. Unlike some conservatives, we know what we're talking about, and we don't need a bunch of liars to tell us a fairy tale. We do our own research and reach our own conclusions.
The greatest differences between most liberals and most conservatives is that liberals tend to look for research-based solutions as opposed to using emotions to create wacko solutions that don't work , have excellent critical thinking skills as opposed to believing whatever someone tells us about people they've never met, and we hate being sold a load of bull as opposed to some conservatives who just get on the bandwagon to attend a rally because someone on teevee with a personal agenda tells you to do this, think that, believe this, hate those folks over there, etc.
The biggest fool is a person who will allow others to use him/her and never question their motives.
Harry Reid is a disgrace at least Angle will cast votes putting Americans first!
A former REP, then DEM, now INP I am so discouraged with both parties and their policies, that all incumbents should be expelled, to include Reid. Reid has done more to support illegal aliens and their welfare then he has taxpaying citizens! He has devoted more time protecting the rights of law breakers (illegal aliens) then he has the citizenry of this state and great nation. It's time to vote Harry Reid out of office and receive the proper representation. Vote NO for Harry Reid in November.
Funny how its ok for Harry to hold "media" events that only supporters are allowed into or to go on "news"shows like Jon Ralston and be asked soft ball questions about things he is safe on.
As for being scary... Reid has been on office over twenty years and can't produce a single thing he has done for the citizens of nevada other than more taxes, fewer (non government union) jobs and a lot of favors owed to lobbyists.
You would think that after 20 years in a job, your record would speak for itself. But than again, it is since he can't beat a crazy lady like Sharron!
CORRECTION: Wow in a hurry to get the dirt on Angle, and got egg in your face, who lost their job behind this blunder? I hope this mix up in words go up in lights all across the United States, and the World. This will come back to bite Senator Reid
By jajma (Margie Robinson)
Oct. 10, 2010
7:48 p.m- I agree with you be careful- you might want to consider doing some research on the Democratic Party
http://www.nbra.info/
...give it up, give it up, Angle, give it up...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkew5_k...
@pmontg:
Hey, pee-monty, please don't pee your whole monty, ok? Oh, Gee, ... it's too late :). Why can't you change your username? I mean, just anything different than this "pee"-thing, you know...
pmontg53:
So you're telling someone "to consider doing some research on the Democratic Party" and then you offer up a web site that goes to the National Black Republican Assocation???
Seriously?
BTW, ten minutes later, I gave up waiting for that site to load. Perhaps you could provide a link to a specific article/section on the site so that we all could do "some research on the Democratic Party" ..... courtesy of Republicans. (I'm pretty sure you're not getting the irony there.)
Chuck-Norris, What does my username have to do with this? We as Americans are in one heck of a mess, we all need to figure out who would be the best Senator for this state, please do not distract from the issue. Sharron Angle never said "favor-buying whore", she said "favor-buying pork". The Las Vegas Sun did print a CORRECTION, you are probable right, it is too late, and the damage has been done.
pmont53:
Got the site to load via Firefox but, well, you really can't describe that site without using the word "cluster&*^%". Sorry; I tried but it's a mish-mosh of articles.
So please link to a specific article because frankly, I have neither the time nor the inclination to wade through that disaster to figure out what you're talking about.
Obama and reid must be stopped, they are killing our country inthe name of ascertaining power.Enough already with the name calling and pointing fingers at Angle.It does not work with this family of Dems,we are voting for Angle ,time for a real change.
I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF THE WHOLE SOCIALIST B.S. Is that really the best argument you can muster is the vague notions of the United States turning into a Socialist State?
GIVE ME A BREAK!
We have protections built into the Constitution, The Bill of Rights and our governmental structure that would make it next to impossible to turn the United States of America into a "Socialist" state without totally throwing out those documents that the country was founded on.
So if you think giving tax breaks to everyone but the top 1% and providing health care to people that need it can only be done by burning The Bill of Rights and the Constitution, then I think you underestimate the the United States and it's people. The one thing you do have an understanding of is Free Speech and the ability to parrot the things your AM talk radio wacko masters tell you.
I believe in the United States of America and I believe that truth will win out in the end. That's why I believe that Ms. Angle will loose in November, despite the lies, half-truths and flip-flops she's been doing the entire campaign.
Sgt Rock, you say that Sen. Reid has stolen money from Nevada? PROVE IT OR SHUT UP! And by proof, I mean something real, not something you heard on the radio or had in a dream.
Anyone else see that photo of Angle and think, 'oh yeah, I only have three weeks to buy candy for the kids that will be trick-or-treating on the 31st?'
Patricia V- I don't know what happened, but it seem that you are not concerned with the truth, that's the troblem with voters, that don't look into what is being said. The truth shall set you free. Get off of the Reid Plantation
@pmontg:
Hey, pee-monty, guess what, you can keep your username, I just thought that it's a little funny. That's all, but I'm fine, it's alright for me, and I do not want to distract anybody here. I mean, if I were in..., so sorry, I mean, if I WAS in such a mess, I'd get the heck out of it, but would definitely not choose the Angle way. That's for sure.
...give it up, give it up, Angle, give it up...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkew5_k...
I am surprised that no one has jumped on her pastor's comments about Mormonism being a "cult". In this state, isn't that like saying gambling should be illegal?
I commend BobbyG on his analysis of the pension and perks that woman would get if (*shudder*) she was elected. However, as some political spots are starting to point out, the Angles are already benefiting mightily from federal largesse. Her husband worked for the BLM for over 30 years and collects a pension. Their health and life insurance are paid for by the government NOW. There's also some Medicare kicking in for her hubby, if I am not mistaken. Gee, that screams a message: government health care is OK for the Angles, but not for the Smiths and Jones of this nation.
That "small business" (aka a mom-and-pop motel with less than ten employees) she brags about running made about the same amount of money as MY small business I used to run--with five employees (including me and my business partner). Her role as an "educator" was that of a substitute teacher until she started a very small, very PRIVATE school that only allowed "certain" kids to attend. I probably have more real teaching experience than she does.
Sadly, people hear "bumper sticker" platitudes and never look at what those platitudes are built upon. It seems every time she tosses out one of her infamous one-liners about how she's going to do away with things, I almost hear whispered at the end "except for me and my pals".
Angle's confused rambling only CONFIRMS my vote for OBama!!!
This fake socialist nonsense is just rhetoric from those who really have no idea what socialism is - meanwhile they're happy using our socialist built sidewalks, parks, police and fire dept., libraries - regulated gas stations, roads and cars, social security, medicare and vets benefits but then they close there eyes and pretend this is not socialism that they're already benefiting from.
OBAMA NOW and in 2012!!! {:D
I wonder how much Harry is paying these clowns posting support for him? After reading some of them I guess they qualify for minimum wage but we know how cheap Harry is with his money. But at least they have a temporary job until Nov. 2.
pmontg53:
I asked you to be a bit more specific and your response is that I'm "not concerned with the truth"???? How far did you have to twist to get to that conclusion?
Here, let me point out a little something for you: If I was "not concerned with the truth" (or at least, your version of it -- er, the NBRA's version of it), I wouldn't have asked for specifics. In fact, I'd never have gone to the site at all.
Your words, "that's the troblem [sic] with voters, that don't look into what is being said" couldn't have been better said ..... about you.
Personally, I'm having a great time watching Sharron Angle's campaign implode. And the best part about it is that she is doing it all by herself.
PatriciaLV- I can send you link upon link, but for what? You seem to be very intelligent; if you really want to know the truth, do as I did; put in the time, and do the research. I respect your position, and understand. When I was a Democrat; I felt very passionate about the party, but when I found out what it was all about, as a Christian, I could no longer support the Democratic Party. Sharron Angle will win November 2,
pmontg53:
And there it is -- the requisite, election-season-is-upon-us "I was a Democrat"; closely related to the "I was a Republican" and "I'm a Democrat BUT" and "I'm a Republican BUT" nonsense/horse manure that seems to rear its ugly head every couple of years during a national election. Ugh.
Let me explain the way this works: You make a claim (e.g., "research the Democrats" - the claim is the implication that there is something very, very horrible about the democrats), you provide the evidence. You do not leave it up to the one(s) you're trying to convince to "do the research". YOU made the claim. YOU provide the specifics.
If you're talking about "the Democrats started the KKK", and you DON'T mention the Civil Rights Act or Dixiecrats or how they all became Republicans (and then the Southern Strategy), you're either dishonest to the very core or you've been duped. I have no way of knowing which it is; only you know. I hope you're at least honest with yourself.
Now if you really have no point to make beyond "Angle will win" and you won't provide any specifics regarding the above, then we're done here.