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Wednesday, Nov. 17, 2010 | 2:02 a.m.
Some Republicans want to repeal the health care law. I hope they will not succeed.
This law is not all that I had hoped for — mainly it does not contain provisions for a single-payer plan. Although changes need to be made to the law, let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water.
Ever since Harry Truman, several presidents, including some Republicans, have tried in vain to pass some kind of health care bill. This legislation, even with its flaws, is a foot in the door and I applaud its passage. After this past disgusting campaign, it would be really encouraging to finally see both parties work together for the good of the country.
One can only hope!
Bonnie says "This law is not all that I had for. ..... This legislation, even with its flaws, is a foot in the door .....
" it would be really encouraging to finally see both parties work together for the good of the country."
I am sure that Democrats in weak positions to run in 2012 will work with Republicans in repealing ObamaCrap.
There are 13 Senate Democrats that will face tough battles in 2012 vs. 3 Republicans.
Hopefully in 2012, the old and sick Reid will see his workload reduced when he becomes minority leader.
"Some Republicans want to repeal the health care law. I hope they will not succeed."
Armstrong -- I notice you neglected to mention anything about that new law's part about making me a felon because I will refuse to enroll in it. Care to comment on why it should not be repealed in that context?
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from your government and I'm here to help.'" -- the late President Ronald Reagan
Killer I think he did when he said changes need to be made. or at least that's the way I took it.
"This law is not all that I had hoped for..." I wanted free medical care, PERIOD!!!
Americans got sold a bill of goods by the Obama administration and special interest groups.
This bill needs to be rewritten after much discussion and debate, as it should have been in the first place.
Of course we can all thank Harry Reid for his accomplishment...
Nobody is threatening to put anyone in jail if they refuse to purchase health insurance.
If someone with means insists on being irresponsible by refusing to obtain health insurance, he or she will be required to pay an additional tax to offset the cost of later care that will likely be borne by the public.
I would have thought that conservatives would be in favor of personal respsonsibility.
And LarryV, Democrats were desparate for bipartisan support of the health care bill. Republicans circled their wagons and refused to participate in the debate rather than risk having the democrats claim a legislative victory.
They gambled -- and lost. Now, they want to start the entire process all over again from square one? Are they kidding? What have they been doing for the last 2+ years?
If Republicans have a comprehensive plan to cover more Americans and lower costs, then let's hear it.
"Killer I think he did when he said changes need to be made. or at least that's the way I took it."
casinokid -- it's already the law.
"Nobody is threatening to put anyone in jail if they refuse to purchase health insurance."
Emthree -- really? Check out page 3 @ http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.go...
There used to be a plan in place to cover all the uninsured called Hill-Burton. One must wonder what happened to it.
"In the general course of human nature, a power over a man's subsistence amounts to a power over his will." -- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Paper 79, 1787-88
Back to the Democrat "blame game?"
Republicans did have a comprehensive health care bill to cover more Americans and lower health care costs, but the Democrats refused to let them be heard. The past is history...
ObamaCare should be repealed, or both sides of the isle should set down and rewrite the health care bill after much discussion and debate. This is the way it should have been in the first place, but Obama, Reid and Pelosi, shoved their bill through without input from the stake holders.
ObamaCare does not and will not work...
" never had a plan that will benefit the middle class it only made the drug companies wealthier"
Mr. mwh710 is pretty clueless.
The drug companies cut a deal with Obama/Reid/Pelosi fairly early in the ObamaCrap program.
That is way they spent tons of money running TV ads for Reid and other Democrats.
You look pretty dumb when talking about the "evil drug" companies and lookee here....they are standing right next to your heros.
Instead of looking forward to improve the health care billed called ObamaCare, Democrats would rather attack Republicans.
Oh, and don't forget to do a little bit of name calling and using vulgar statements. That really lends to a good discussion...
Emthree - "Nobody is threatening to put anyone in jail if they refuse to purchase health insurance."
Very true Emthree, it's another Fox News BS story they've hashed out.
Bwaahaha .. so to prove a point, KillerB immediately gravitates to a Republican site edited by (R)David Camp. Try reading the bill. The data David Camp offers is based on 2008 statistics, concerning investigations of tax fraud, before the bill was passed.
Where in the actual bill does it state people will go to prison for not purchasing insurance?
Yes, tax evasion will remain a crime.
The CBO estimates the bill will reduce the deficit by $143 billion over the ten years from 2010 through 2019. In the following years 2020 through 2029, they estimate that the bill will reduce the deficit by $1.3 trillion.
http://www.cbpp.org/search/?q=cbo+report...
Start here.
Comrade Vern has just posted the laugh of the day...
The CBO estimates were grossly wrong then and they still are grossly WRONG.
ObamaCare, as written, will destroy medical care and the economy.
Change it or repeal ObamaCare...
"Where in the actual bill does it state people will go to prison for not purchasing insurance?"
It is a tax. So if you don't pay your taxes or file a false claim then you can be put into jail and fine $10,000's of dollars.
Before the IRS would put someone in jail for failure to pay their taxes, the IRS would try to garnish wages, seize checking, savings accounts and other assets, and put a tax lien on the taxpayer's house and property. If a tax sale of the house still did not pay the tax debt, then...
So, ObamaCare does contain penalty provisions to punish those who don't comply with ObamaCare's provisions...
"The CBO estimates were grossly wrong then and they still are grossly WRONG."
Why? Because Fox said so? I guess the CBO is only correct when the Republicans are in control, all other times they are wrong?
Let's start by repealing the health care of
Sarah Palin, larryvegas, sgtrock and any other
greedy republicans who already have good health
care.
These people need to live without health care to
understand that ALL AMERICANS NEED HEALTH CARE.
"The CBO estimates were grossly wrong then and they still are grossly WRONG."
Comrade Vern states: "Why? Because Fox said so?"
No because these say so...
"Congressional Budget estimates show will increase overall expenditures on health care by $200 billion over the next 10 years."
"The Congressional Budget Office made Republicans cheer on July 16 when it said that health care reform proposals will raise, not lower, costs."
Former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan stated that the probability that the CBO was too rosy in its projections of health care costs is "much higher than we would like".
"The CBO estimate shows costs of more than $200 billion at year 10 and rising. In other words, costs for the original Senate bill could run well over $2 trillion during the second decade of the program.
"The probability that it (the costs) might be is probably much higher than I think we would like," Greenspan said.
http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpr...
http://www.healthreformwatch.com/2009/08...
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?...
headline=Jay+Buckey%3A+Why+Kelly+Ayotte+is+wrong+about+health+care
http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-a-lon...
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/...
http://dailycaller.com/2010/01/10/congre...
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/green...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12362977...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/w...
And there is much much more out there that states that the CBO under estimated the costs of ObamaCare...
The teamster says that I am "greedy" because I have healthcare insurance.
Yes teamster, I must be "greedy" for paying for and maintaining health insurance for myself and my family...
Yes larry, you are greedy because you don't
care about the millions of Americans who don't
have health care.
We Democrats will keep working on health care
until all Americans have health care.
Yes teamster, I must be "greedy" for paying for and maintaining health insurance for myself and my family...
HEALTH CARE SHOULD NOT BE FOR PROFIT!