Joe Jaszewski / AP
Idaho Attorney General Lawrence Wasden, center, gives a news conference in Boise, Idaho, on Tuesday on the state’s decision to sue the federal government over health care reform legislation. Attorneys general from 13 states sued the federal government, claiming the landmark health care overhaul is unconstitutional.
Published Wednesday, March 24, 2010 | 2 a.m.
Updated Wednesday, March 24, 2010 | 10:01 a.m.
Health care bill signing
Sun Archives
- Obama signs historic $938 billion health overhaul (3-23-10)
- Health care bill would bring higher state Medicaid costs (3-22-10)
- First changes would start six months after health bill becomes law (3-22-10)
- Sides getting ready for final battle over health care reform (3-22-10)
- House clears historic health bill, GOP targets Nevada Democrats (3-21-10)
Gubernatorial candidate Brian Sandoval changed course today, joining the other Republican front-runners in the race for governor in calling for Nevada to join a lawsuit against the new health care law.
On Tuesday, 13 Republican attorneys general filed a lawsuit arguing that the law is unconstitutional, and Virginia’s attorney general filed a separate lawsuit making a similar argument.
Gov. Jim Gibbons and former North Las Vegas Mayor Mike Montandon said Tuesday that Nevada should be on that list, too. Nevada Attorney General Catherine Cortez Masto, a Democrat, said she’s still reviewing the legislation.
Sandoval, a former federal judge who previously held the elected office that is now Cortez Masto’s, criticized the legislation, but stayed silent on whether Nevada should take legal action. He focused, instead, on the additional cost to Nevada state government.
This morning, however, Sandoval said in a statement: "After a thorough review of the bill and the legal foundation of this action, I absolutely support the state joining the suit against the federal government and would strongly urge the Attorney General to move forward."
Sandoval is trying to beat back the perception that he is not as conservative as Gibbons or Montandon, and has attacked Gibbons for raising fees during this past special session. That had made his silence on taking legal action over health care legislation more conspicuous.
When asked Tuesday to respond to Sandoval’s initial silence on a legal challenge, Montandon said: “Let’s wait for Mr. Sandoval to change his mind, after this newspaper article comes out.”
Gibbons compared the bill to the federal government requiring people to buy cars or televisions, and threatening them with IRS fines if they didn’t obey.
“The federal government has no right to tell state residents that they have to go out and buy something,” said Dan Burns, Gibbons’ spokesman.
Montandon argued that the 10th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which says that powers not enumerated by the constitution are reserved to the states, makes the health care reform unconstitutional.
In his statement today Sandoval added: "Being a strong state's rights advocate and former Federal Judge, I see the constitutional question created by the health care bill as monumental in all future matters involving state's rights."
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s spokesman Jon Summers compared the federal mandate for health insurance to states’ mandates that motorists have car insurance.
Burns countered that it’s a poor analogy because driving, and therefore auto insurance, is optional.
Democrats also have argued that Congress has regulated many aspects of the economy under the Commerce Clause of the Constitution, which has been interpreted since the 1930s as authorizing Congress to regulate matters with a substantial effect on interstate commerce.
The state Health and Human Services Department estimates that the bill will cost Nevada state government $613 million between 2014 and 2019. An additional 70,800 Nevadans are expected to have health insurance through Medicaid.
Sandoval in January released a statement saying he thought the earlier version of the bill that had passed the U.S. Senate “will not withstand constitutional scrutiny.” But he specifically mentioned the different ways states were treated under that proposal, in particular a provision that would have given greater federal aid to cover Nebraska’s Medicaid costs, known as the Cornhusker Kickback. A reconciliation bill making its way through the Senate would likely eliminate that provision and other aspects of the bill that House Democrats found objectionable.








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Here is the problem: The regulation of commerce was always regulated by duties and imposts on imported goods. Madison said the regulation of commerce among the states was a preventive measure only, not a power to be used for "positive purposes of the general government."
See the original meaning here:
http://federalistblog.us/2006/08/busting...
Birdie - grow up. Try and have an intelligent conversation for once in your life.
You are just like the rest of the dems - gloat in your temporary victory and cry foul when you do not get your way. Before this is all said and done, we'll see in a couple of years, how this all shakes out;
Obama - gone
Reid - gone
Pelosi - gone
most of the dems in Washington - gone
you cannot shove this crap down peoples throats and think we will accept it laying down.
Watch the fireworks begin in November.
browin4, GROW up. Try and have an intelligent conversation for once in your life.
You are just like the rest of the tea-bagger republicans, you are unable to think for yourself, and believe what the fact-free republican lie-machine has fed you. Oh, how sad it must be to be you.
The bush regime tax-cuts for the rich, and the unfunded Iraq war are things that can be considered to be "shoved down our throats".
In November, we will lose some seats, and the GOP will gain some--that's just how it works silly, so, next empty threat...
Like it or loathe it, it can't be stopped.
Repub's need to go back to SCHOOL!
Right-Wingers have officially gone off THE DEEP END!
SWIM! SWIM!
nors, GROW UP... talk about NOT thinking for yourselves. Keep using the same old lines,
'tea-bag republicans','unable to think for yourself','republican lie-machine','Bush tax cuts for the rich only', 'Iraq war'....
How about the Acorn affair... try thinking outside the box... look at your dem lie-machines for once... wait until the tax cuts you received will be raised back to the 38% level instead of the 32% where it's at now... and why are we still in Iraq and Afganistan?
Stop the party crying crap and vote someone in who WILL have our concerns at heart. We're all getting screwed!
nors - to drop to your level, would be quite difficult. You have repeated the dem talking points ( unfunded war, Bush tax cuts, name calling) and you have the gall to suggest I can't think for myself?? Look in the mirror - is Obama smiling back???
Sandoval is right--another unfunded federal mandate dropped on our laps. Dealing with deficits by passing on the bill to someone else.
As for constitutional challenges--based on what I read in the NYT (groans, laughs), the version of the bill that passed Sunday will be very tough to overturn. Much ado about nothing.
It's not surprising that Mr. Sandoval has stayed silent on this issue. He is waiting for Chuck Muth or the Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce to tell him what is position is.
This is just another scam by repugnicans to waste tax money and put it into the lawyer friends pockets.
This is government tax money being spent to file the suits and then government tax money being spent to defend against the suits and then tax money being wasted in the courts to hear the suits and so on.
The repugnicans did this under reagan who stopped the implementation of air bags and directly caused the death of 30,000 americans. It this case the Department of transportation had to sue the white house to get the executive branch to enforce the air bag law. After 8 years, and $80,000,000 in waste tax money on repugnican lawyers, the supreme court told reagan to enforce the law. 30,000 people died during these 8 years, that would have been saved by air bags. reagan killed more americans than any other president, while doing what his corporate chronies wanted him to do.
The repugnicans did the same thing against clinton and their investigation of his tax deductions. Another $80,000,000 tax dollars got wasted AFTER it was concluded that the tax deduction was totally legal.
This was also done on the benzene standard, CPSC legislation, breakup of the telephone monopoly, etc.
If the US does not reduce its health care costs to that of other countries with national health care, the US will NEVER COMPETE in the global economy.
US health care costs are TWICE AS HIGH as any other country with national health care. YET, the pelople in the US are sicker, do not live as long.
Twice as much money, and ABSOLUTELY NO BETTER HEALTH.
Only the greedy insurance companies and the health care executive are benefiting from the rip off of the american people.
Where were these Republicans when Bush II came out with No Child Left Behind or for that matter any federal mandate? Talk about a waste of taxpayers money to fight their own idelogical battle.
I find it interesting that those elected have a problem with health care reform costs but no problem whatsover in what it will cost to fight the Federal Government. It's just not gonna' happen and they know it.
Four of the thirteen states that are "suing" are being led by Attorneys General that are running for Governor. This is all to put up a big show to say to prospective voters, "See? I fought this for you! OK - I used your taxpayers dollars in a losing battle - but please ignore that."
Most experts on Constitutional Law agree, all of the these law suits have no merit and will fail.
Also, most experts on the economics of Health Care agree the only way to contain Health Care costs is to have everyone insured. Why? Because those of us with insurance wind up paying for all the uninsured people. It is all well and good to not have health insurance and pay cash as you go until you have a major illness or accident.
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So Sandoval is giving up on the Gube race? Doesn't he know he needs to turn up the crazy to beat "Luv-Guv Gibbons"?
It's fun to watch the Republicans eat their own. :-)
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"Where were these Republicans when Bush II came out with No Child Left Behind or for that matter any federal mandate?"
They were praising Dumbya for his "commitment to education". Remember that for teabaggers, "It's OK If You're a Republican." (IOKIYAR)
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"Most experts on Constitutional Law agree, all of the these law suits have no merit and will fail."
It doesn't matter to them. They may say they want "tort reform", but Republicans LOVE filing law suits that help them grandstand to win the teabaggers' favor. Again, IOKIYAR.
It was ok to give about the same amount to banks, but not to cure our dramatically-rising healthcare costs that threaten the country's economy. Why?
The largest state supported hospital in Nevada is so in the red that it is cutting major programs. This is due mostly to the uninsured. The uninsured fill emergency rooms in other hospitals, folks who have no intention of paying their bills. Wouldn't it better if everyone is required to have health insurance and thus, over time help Nevada recover millions of dollars now lost. Dollars that could go to K-12 education, which is sorely needed? Dollars that might be funneled in other ways to the citizens of Nevada? Instead, Gibbons wants to spend state dollars we do not have fighting the very thing that might help Nevada recover in so many other ways? I fail to see the logic.
It is a bit odd that all the AGs that think it is a good idea to spend money suing the people of the United States over this issue happen to be Republicans.
Here is the problem for Republi-tards. The American people spoke loud and clear in November 2008 and voted for change. I am truly sorry that you want to maintain the status quo, but the vast majority of people already spoke. We want change and Obama ran on Healthcare reform and he delivered. Truth of the matter is you are just mad because he delivered something so huge and so great for the american people that he will go down in history for in. This is all just a dog and pony show. These people are truly embarassing themselves.
Perhaps as a former federal judge, Brian Sandoval knows a lawsuit against the Health Reform Act has no merit, no chance of success, and would be a huge waste of taxpayers' money to pursue.
Glad to see Judge Sandoval is not pandering like the governor and Congressman Heller.
This is great!!! I can't wait for the Government to tell me which car to buy, which foods to eat, which bank to use or I'll get a fine or go to prison. This makes my life so much easier letting the government tell me what to do and how to do it. Now I can just sit back and wait for the government to refresh my drink....I prefer cool aid and that little something they add to it. All is well in dream world...
November 2, 2010. Most of us can't wait.
It will be interesting to what Gov. Pawlenty of Minnesota has to say when his AG, who is a Democrat, tells him that there is no reason to sue. He can not say she does not protect the consumer when she is a major advocate for the consumer and the previous AG, a Dem also, protected the consumer.
Dear Republican friends - what part of the terms "lesser of two evils" can you NOT comprehend? Either you get screwed by your insurance company for $15K for a broken leg and a hospital visit, or you give a few bucks a month to your government owned health insurance plan out of your paycheck. When my father who lives in Florida had his first heart attack his bills were well over 30K. Which one of YOU can say you've got 30K expendable cash just sitting around waiting for your arteries to block up? Well?? Hands up if it's you! What? None of you?
Everyone who is complaining about money going down the tubes and a socialized state needs to Google any Scandanavian country or Canada and see that as far as "wealthy countries" go the US has the highest cost for healthcare per person by GDP, one of the highest rates of infant mortality, one of the lowest rates of old age of all first world countries! Maybe if more people had insurance they could keep from sucking the system dry by having to go to the ER for the flu, or be able to get affordable birth control pills, and therefore NOT have additional folks needing funds from the pool of healthcare. We won't even discuss that Canada for example can offer new mothers one full year of maternity leave or that Denmark for example has government sponsored daycare....because you know, those pesky children are our future.
I know paying taxes is a pain in the arse, and trusting your elected officials to do right by those tax dollars is daunting but seriously THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS!! Not that these meritless lawsuits were thinking about that - it's a real nice use of tax dollars this is. Why bother funding public education when you can file a bogus lawsuit against the Federal Government?
Let's leave politics out of this for a moment. LET THE OTHER STATES BLOW THEIR MONEY TESTING THE LAW!! We can learn whether the suits will be succesful and if need be we can file at that time.
First, Sandoval, like our President Obama, should post his birth certificate on the Internet to assure voters he is an American Citizen, and not a Gadsden Purchase want-to-be citizen. ("New" Mexico, come on now really, that's what they all say, just ask the Teabag People.)
Second, a hula hoop type magician's ring should be pasted over Sandoval's body to see if there are any strings attached.
Third, what legal precedent (other than the NRA Supreme Court case back in the 30's) is there that a suit like this will prevail??
Thank You Mr. Sandoval! I absolutely agree with you and the millions of others out there that want and demand justice for this horrible mess the Dems put us in. Together we can and will defeat this Government Takeover against the American People. You just earned my vote and support.
For the droves of angry voters out there that just got shafted by Berkley, Titus and Reid. You just may want to know about this site: FireNancyPelosi.com Tell your neighbors, relatives and friends! Happy Donating!! :)
Just when I thought Sandoval wasn't a mindless parrot of GOP talking points, he shows he's not up to the task.
Sandoval's leadership philosophy is "follow the herd."
Sandoval: announce now that you will refuse the socialistic health insurance you get from the state of Nevada as Governor, and cancel the socialistic government-paid insurance the state of Nevada currently pays for you as judge. Buy it on the free market.
I guess years as a judge didn't get Sandoval up to par on the law. Sounds like a frivolous lawsuit to me.
DessertSun: I was reading today that the Dems have brought in over 2 million since health care passage, far exceeding the current 1.4 million from your anti-Pelosi hate fest.
Sorry!
Just when Sandoval showed signs of thinking for himself, he lets some Tea Parties with misspelled signs and plenty of spare spittle scare him. Come on, Brian. Stay mavericky or you will just seem like a prettier version of Gibbons.
Republican Party = followers and joiners. Not a leader in the bunch.
"Stay mavericky or you will just seem like a prettier version of Gibbons."
Ha! Sandoval needs to go rogue.
Sue Lowden has a disgraceful health care record.
http://www.harryreid.com/ee/index.php/ne...
KISS -- How about a national 10% sales tax on food, alcohol, tobacco, and drugs to pay for this? We all eat, and the fatties are the biggest source of health problems. Everyone pays, everyone's eligible to enroll but not required to (provided they're legal). 25% co-pay up to a certain annual limit, just to try and keep people honest. Medical license requires a practitioner to accept those covered. States, charities, individuals, or private insurers can cover the 25% co-pay -- up to the individual to figure it out. IRS can recover unpaid deductible via tax returns or wage garnishment.
Hey this is great keep fighting, because us Mexicans are right behind to take over the country !
To browin4: If the current Bush tax cuts expire, the overall tax increase faced by American families, seniors & businesses is $2.4Trillion dollars. The average tax increase for over 100 million Americans will be $l,716; for 17 million seniors, $2,034, and $3,637 for 26 million small business owners. If they repeal the Death Tax, this would create 1.5 million jobs, whereas if they reinstate it, it will cost us $91 Billion. If the marriage penalty is reinstated, 2000 couples will be faced with an increased average cost of $1.480. Of course, what the Democrats want you to believe is that these were tax cuts for the rich. Are you rich? Well, you keep believing them, and keep watching them trash our Constitution (by the way you should take a seminar in it, just as our elected officials should do before they take an oath on the bible and swear to uphhold it.) You need to get your head out of the sand and become more politically aware of what is going on, especially behind the scenes, and how they lie in order to get the power...but maybe you are one of those with your hand out, asking, "Gee, government, what can you do for me?" Shame on you! More taxes are coming...they need them! Healthcare, Amnesty, Universal Voter Registration, and other entitlements. American will not survive as we know it. Is this what you want? Both parties are at fault...so you must educate yourself, forget party affiliation and look to the issues and what they mean. Get the Whistleblower, or Sierra Sage...join the tea party and fight tax increases or the invasion of our southern border. Make your voice count for this country and our wellbeing. Listen to all the media and make informed, not biased, opinions.
Hold on a minute folks Ummmm!!!!!UMMMMMMM!!!!UUUUMMMMM!!!! Damn health Care Bill Is still caught in my throat.
Yes It passed but either the States will win in the Supreme Court or in a Few months there will be a revolt on the Democratic Party and there want be enough of them left to fight the repeal vote comming very soon in the Congressional Circus
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Michael Moore's SiCKO Movie.
Again the Sun is wrong.
Some of those states filing suit are run by democrats.
KarinaP... if you think Canadas medical system is so wonderful, why are we being slammed here in the NE with their patients?
Yes, the system sucks.. it needs an overhaul... but this one is not right either. Even Dennis 'the mennace' Kucinnich had a hard time swallowing it for his team. We can't believe he caved... but like he said, "I don't like the bill,,,but....." Gotta wonder what he got out of the AF-1 plane ride to change his mind so suddenly.
NLV Indep13 - best, most logical and simply put solution I've read since this began being debated!
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Hey, jaunmexican, dial 1-800-ICE-Squad for a free Greyhound bus ticket to the country of your choice!
Sandoval has only one interest - corporation take over from individual tax payer citizens.
After I reverse his U.S. district court decision in the U.S. Supreme Court, he will have no place to hide his stench within this nation!
One ticket to Mehico.
huh? Sandoval's a Coobano, not a mejican.