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Something fishy about Tea Party candidate, GOP insists
Thursday, March 11, 2010 | 2 a.m.
Tea Party's Scott Ashjian
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Jon Scott Ashjian, a businessman who hopes to square off against Sen. Harry Reid in November, says it's time for "normal people" to govern.
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- Tea Party candidate could siphon GOP votes in bid to remove Harry Reid (3-5-2010)
- Tea Party to field candidate in battle for Harry Reid’s Senate seat (2-13-2010)
- The Tea Party’s (old) paranoia (1-24-2010)
- ‘Tea Party’ set turns out in Las Vegas at its anti-Harry Reid finest (1-13-2010)
- Grass roots or not, Nevada tea parties had assist (9-1-2009)
Danny Tarkanian
Sue Lowden
Harry Reid
Washington — Renegade Tea Party candidate Jon Scott Ashjian could do more to unify the beleaguered Nevada Republican Party than the combined efforts of the party’s organizations up and down the state.
Ashjian has sent the party into a tizzy by seizing the conservative Tea Party brand and launching a third-party campaign to defeat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Republicans are aghast at the nerve of the little-known political upstart waltzing onto the scene and claiming the conservative mantle. Polling shows their concerns aren’t unfounded — Ashjian could re-elect Reid by siphoning conservative voters from the Republican candidate.
Unable to bring him into the fold, Republicans are trying to do the next best thing: destroy his candidacy.
The best way to do this, they have concluded, is by alleging he is a puppet of Reid.
“Nobody in the Tea Party knows who he is. He didn’t know any of the principles of the Tea Party,” Republican Senate hopeful Danny Tarkanian told CNN on Wednesday.
Asked if Reid was behind Ashjian’s campaign, Tarkanian said, “No doubt about it.”
When pressed later by the Sun, Tarkanian acknowledged he had no factual evidence of Reid’s meddling in the campaign. “The evidence is of course circumstantial, but it’s strong enough to make many in the Tea Party movement suspicious,” said Tarkanian’s spokesman Jamie Fisfis.
And so, finding it useful to their ends, Republicans have kept the conspiracy theory alive.
Tarkanian, who is of Armenian descent, went on to suggest the Reid camp chose a fellow Armenian to pull support away from his own budding candidacy because “they know the Armenians are very close; they’ll vote for each other.”
Later in the day, Tarkanian suggested it might have been the Mormon connection that drew Reid to Ashjian, because both are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, according to the Las Vegas Web site SlashPolitics.
Tarkanian again acknowledged to SlashPolitics he had no idea if Reid was involved.
Fellow Republican candidate Sue Lowden tried to remain above the fray, seeking to secure front-runner status in the large Republican field. “Danny Tarkanian’s allegations are his own and we’ll leave it to him to substantiate his recent claims,” said Lowden spokesman Robert Uithoven.
Yet the conspiracy proved too tempting, as Lowden’s campaign noted that the candidate “has attended and contributed to the Tea Party efforts in Nevada, but she has never met Mr. Ashjian at any of their events.”
Reid has long been a great unifier of the Republican Party, as the powerful majority leader and, now, friend of President Barack Obama.
Rather than embrace the clout one of the nation’s top Democrats can bring to the small state, Nevada Republicans — and conservatives outside the party — want to end his political career. Even his 100-member “Republicans for Reid” team cannot deter rank-and-file Republican Party activists from this quest.
Reid denies meddling in the Ashjian candidacy.
Asked if the senator, his office or his campaign was involved in getting Ashjian to run, Reid spokesman Jon Summers said, “No, no and no.”
The Ashjian candidacy is precisely what the splintered Republican Party in Nevada and elsewhere had hoped to avoid.
Last spring, a coalition of outlier conservative groups in Las Vegas — Ron Paul supporters, Tea Partyers — decided that since history is not kind to third-party candidacies, they would not branch off. Instead, they would try to rebuild the Republican Party in their image.
They are off to a decent start, judging by the recent overthrow of the Clark County Republican Party’s executive board led by Ron Paul and Tea Party supporters.
Now Ashjian threatens those well-laid plans.
A Las Vegas Review-Journal poll showed Reid, who has been trailing the leading Republican candidates by double-digits for months, winning if Ashjian enters the race.
On Wednesday, conservative activists up and down the state signed a pledge to denounce Ashjian’s new party, Tea Party Nevada, and refused to invite him to any of their events, according to a petition first reported on the Nevada News Bureau site.
The conservative activists even pledged not to use the beloved “Tea Party candidate” phrase while discussing grass-roots campaigns.
“We are united in denouncing the” Tea Party of Nevada, the undersigners wrote. “The TPN is not a conservative party who speaks for grass-roots and tea party activists in Nevada … The TPN is not now, has never been, and will never be affiliated with grass-roots efforts in Nevada.
“The term ‘Tea Party candidate’ will no longer be used to indicate grass-roots support for a candidate or candidates,” the pledge continued.
“We, the tea party activists and grass-roots organizers in Nevada, are united.”
Nationally, the Republican Party has struggled with how to handle the Tea Party movement. Republicans want to tap the energy and passion of its members, who have breathed new life into conservative politics. But a warm Republican embrace could also turn off the movement’s anti-big government activists who believe the Republican Party is part of the problem.
Republicans nationally, and in Nevada, acknowledge the party lost its way after electoral defeats of 2006 and 2008. They recognize a third-party effort could do further damage.
Republican Sen. John Cornyn of Texas, who is the chairman of his party’s campaign efforts in the Senate, said this week that he wants to bring Tea Party candidates under the Republican tent, as has happened in the recent governor’s race in his home state and in the Florida Senate race where the renegade candidate is now leading the establishment-backed Republican.
The Nevada Republican Party’s efforts to run off the upstart Ashjian could conceivably pave the way to re-establishing the Grand Old Party in the state. The renunciation of the Tea Party candidate moniker is one of the strongest signals yet that the Republican brand might have newfound currency.
Among Nevada conservatives, it appears the only bond more powerful than their desire to topple Reid is their desire to topple the upstart who might interfere with that goal.
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oh danny boy, your thoughts are goofy, from district to district, your thoughts are so dumb. hey does that rhyme with the song.
Sounds like your typical nut-talk radio delusional conspiracy thinking. Let's see, all we need is a Mormon-Armenian to derail Reid. Long live the Teabags!
Just what we need, a third party. Good idea. Split the vote 3 ways and let them get Harry Reid back in. We're standing on his neck now. Why let him breathe. If you hate Reid vote for the Republican. Lets not split the vote.
Ashjian? Who He? Never heard of him. Maybe I'll run too.
Did Tarkanian actually state that Armenians are so mindless that they will stick together and vote for someone simply because they are Armenian?
This is more confusing than one of Glen Beck's chalkboard lessons... Speaking of which, why does Sue Lowden wear a RED jacket all the time?
look at the stupid pathetic ugly lying republicans...
and their lack of shame...
their lack of a conscience...
their willingness to do or say absolutely anything...
absolutely no regard for the facts or the truth...
they are children...
itty bitty children...
who the hell would join the stupid pathetic ugly lying republicans these days...
only l-o-s-e-r-s!!
The fact Harry Reids campaign staff at the LVSun are helping out with getting this guys name out in the public and pooh-poohing any talk about him being their pal Harry's "puppet" makes this all the fishier.
Since there are no facts at this point how about someone substantiate these claims instead of just spouting more rumors?
Would be nice to have an election dealing in facts, something new and refreshing.
Ashjian has done nothing successful yet in his personal or business life, except to fool the LV Sun that he is some kind of a viable candidate and worthy of bandwidth.
One month from now, even more people will be saying, Ashjian who?
It seems that anybody can create a party out of thin air and run.
All you need is 250 signatures.
You can have the "Public Option" party or the "Single Payer" party or the communist party or the nazi party.
When one files the party then the party automatically gets to list one candidate on the ballot.
One day we could have thousands of parties and candidates on a ballot and the ballot will be pages and pages and pages long.
As for Ashjian he is an opportunist but he better be careful. He is pissing off a whole chunk of Nevadans. It will eventually significantly harm his ability to conduct business in Nevada. I just know that many business people have already told me that will NEVER do business with him.
On the other hand, Democrats will make him into a hero.
Hopefully, come election day, the voters will know that he is really just a con man and pull the lever on the real candidates in the race.
RHG--I thought the same thing! Boy, you can read the scorn for Republicans between the lines. From the moment this guy came out of the woodwork, I knew he had to be a plant by Reid. Barry Levinson, who is the one who filed, is a Democrat who voted for Obama.
If a third party candidate were seriously threatening to derail a democrat, the republicans would be encouraging such a vote. Period. It's only because their party is the one that's threatened that they decide to speak out against some new competition. All that tells me is that they don't really care about the political system per se, just themselves. And all that tells me is that they are no better than the democrats. Why would I want to vote for that?
I am a Mormon and would never vote for this guy anymore than I would Reid. Every Mormon I personally know DESPISES Harry Reid as a power-hungry, greedy POLITICIAN in the business for his own personal aggrandizement.
Republicans just don't get it. Their party is being replaced.
I'll go with the flow of your statement, MeGaRa7. However, my side of the house, the Christian Evangels, support the regular GOP (I don't myself) as I like to be independent of party lines.
THIS IS WHY NEVADA DESPERATELY NEEDS A THIRD, OR EVEN FOURTH, POLITICAL PARTY.
KEEP FILING. DON'T STOP.
YOU DON'T *NEED* PERMISSION TO RUN.
FILE FOR ANY OFFICE THAT YOU CAN.
THESE J'MOKES NEED TO BE PUT IN THEIR POLITICAL PLACE.
- IN THE POLITICAL TRASH CAN.......
It's not the Republican party that's dead, it's the Progressive, Liberal, Socialist Repubs that are (aka Dem light with an 'R').
This guy is not supported by the American Constitutionalist Tea Party movement as we cover all responsible citizens, regardless of 'Old' party line.
You're either for what made us great (Our Constitution) or the new Oshamma, gReid, etc. type of interpretation..
Me, I swore to uphold OURS not theirs...
And the great Pretender harry has brought in another great Pretender to try and save him It wont work. The voters of Nevada will not fall for this cheap trick that comes right out of the Chicago playbook.
I refuse to vote for Lowden & Tarkanian just outed himself as a religious bigot.
Here's an idea, if this is really about defeating Reid, why don't Lowden & Tarkanian withdraw in favor of someone we could actually vote for.
Now the Republicans and their Tea Party wing are at odds with each other. As far as I'm concerned, it seems like Tarkanian and Lowden may be splitting the Ashjian vote! There seems to be more Tea partiers then Republicans locally. However, the public will come to realize that all these idiots don't have the capabilities of Reid to push legislation that is good for Nevada through the Senate, and in the end they will vote for him in droves.
Little tark has gone off his meds:
Since Ashjian is unknown and doesn't fit the ideal description of a typical teabag candidate then he must have been planted by the Reid campaign.
OK, little tark -- whatever you say.
The Republican party is so pathetic. A conspiracy theory orchestrated by Reid.....hahahaha. They give Harry Reid way too much credit. Just goes to show they are as crazy as we all thought.
Sarah Palin 2012!!!!!!!!!
The republicans spend a year frothing up the tea party and now they're surprised that one of the tea party decided to run?
Meanwhile, all the commenters who told us that they don't vote for the party, they vote for the person are doing everything they can to destroy this man's reputation! They question his religion, his ethnicity, everything!
It's oddly fascinating, though, to see Rove's politics of personal destruction used by a republican on another republican.
Typical of all thieves running for office, the public should do some research on Asjains company A&A Asphalt and ask how much money he owes and refuses to pay his suppliers and contractors.
calthompian writes:
Just what we need, a third party. Good idea. Split the vote 3 ways and let them get Harry Reid back in. We're standing on his neck now. Why let him breathe. If you hate Reid vote for the Republican. Lets not split the vote.
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Heh, heh -- go Ashjian, spluit the vote. The last thing I want is Lowden or Tarkanian representing me. Ensign and Heller display enough disdain for the average folks of Nevada enough as it is. Just what we need, one more Republican calling his or her constituents "hobos."
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It's obvious little Danny Tark doesn't have the intelligence to win the republican primary. His comments have made him look like a fool.
Comments in all caps may be deleted no matter their content.
stgrock claims;
"As for Ashjian he is an opportunist but he better be careful. He is pissing off a whole chunk of Nevadans. It will eventually significantly harm his ability to conduct business in Nevada."
This sounds like a THREAT.
If I were this Ashjian, I'd probably talk to my lawyer.
Third party candidates are great.
However, we can't have people winning office with, let's say, 38% of the vote, in my opinion.
If the winning candidate has less than a simple majority, we should have a runoff election.
The "F O" in front of commentator Simmons is appropriate.
Sue and the dwarves have a lot more pressing issues to worry about than this guy. No ideas, tired records on everything, personal life crap, shady biz deals the list could go on. At least this guy gives the wing nuts a place to hang there hat. After all, they're still pretty mad at Sue for shutting down the "normal folks" at the last Republican convention. Oh yeah Sue, they haven't forgotten about that little back room shadyness.
A simple few searches reveal that Jon Ashjian is the owner of A & A Asphalt Paving Company. That company's current status is summary suspension. There are two charges pending adjudication;
Failure to establish financial responsibility
Fraudulent or deceitful act
In addition, Mr. Ashjian is a partner in TNT Energy Products, LLC, and was the owner of Vegas Yards, LLC both currently in default with the Secretary of State (one could just be due to the back log at the SOS).
There is an article that references an IRS lien of $200k.
According to this article, he claims he has invested $500k in TNT Energy Products, and donates the net profits to the universities of Iowa's general fund.
http://www.dailyiowan.com/2009/11/03/Met...
Something is a bit off. If you were having trouble with your personal and business financials, why would you donate the profits from your business?
Ashjian is some kind of wacko. He bounced a $200000 check to the IRS, his business obviously isn't doing well and suddenly he seizes on the Tea Party label to announce his candidacy for the senate. Reid likes the idea and Back Door Reid's newspaper the LVSun is helping Reid split the party. Looks mighty suspicious since the democraps have proved they will stoop as low as possible.
In honor of the Democrats and dedicated to Birdiedreamin:
Look at the stupid pathetic ugly lying ...
Democrats ....
And their lack of shame...
Their lack of a conscience...
Only pointing blame ...
Their willingness to defraud the public for Their own personal gain ....
Absolutely no regard for the facts or the truth Is their sad, sorry bane...
They are a joke
To their name ...
Who the hell would join the stupid pathetic ugly Lying Democrats...
These days they are so lame...
"Comments in all caps may be deleted no matter their content."
Too bad there isn't a "Comments which directly contradict voting claims from the past may be deleted no matter their content," right Larry?
It's fishy that GOP activists are trying to smear the Tea Party candidate so soon.
gmag...... you are wise beyond you years, except if a Dem wins at 38% would you be willing to have a united conservative front?
simple math for simpletons says the conservative would then win 2 to 1.
The Tea Party needs to merge with the Republican Party and form a cohesive front. Ask any military strategist about fighting a war on two fronts.........
btw, I have a vintage Ross Perot t-shirt for sale.
"Looks mighty suspicious since the democraps have proved they will stoop as low as possible."
Yeah, you NutJobs are so moral.
Have you seen the Senator Ensign story today?
Now THERE is a MORAL MAN!
It looks to me like Senator Reid will win re-election by default because the Republicans and Tea Party have NO REAL CANDIDATES! Lowden? Jr. Tark? Ashjian? Um, N O.
Nevada desperately needs to send people to work for the state that have intelligence and foresight, coupled with an innate sense of what is good for their constituents, and that isn't beholden to Corporate America or the Old Guard of Nevada Politics.
THAT is a TALL ORDER, PARD'NER!
getalife...
I would let the chips fall where they may!
However, put the shoe on the other foot; if the Dem comes in second and there is a runoff, the Dem could subsequently
win the election... could you handle that?
ksand99: "The republicans spend a year frothing up the tea party and now they're surprised that one of the tea party decided to run?"
Just the other day, he was saying the dude was not a true member of the Tea party.
Today he is.
Tomorrow he is not.
Day after that....who knows?????
To All,
I think we all need to step back and review Lisa's article, then take a deep breath and refocus. While we do this I would like to provide a bit of political satire from and article yesterday from AP.
(AP) Australian scientists said Wednesday that the discovery of a genetically distinct colony of Tasmanian (Tarkanian) devils may save the species from being wiped out by a contagious cancer that has decimated the (GOP) population.
So far, the colony in northwestern (Southwestern) Tasmania (Nevada) state has proven immune to the face cancer that has ravaged the iconic animal -- made famous worldwide by their Looney Tunes cartoon namesake, Taz (Tark).
I think the key phrase here is "made famous world wide by their Looney Tunes".
"Just the other day, he was saying the dude was not a true member of the Tea party. Today he is. Tomorrow he is not. Day after that....who knows?????"
Stop lying. I dare you to quote me.
What I said before is entirely consistent with what I'm saying now. YOU attacked Ashjian as not being authentic because he has a friend who is a lawyer and a Democrat. I defended Ashjian and his formation of the Tea Party from YOUR ATTACK.
The fascist republican party has gone from finessing the truth to all out lying to promote their agenda.
OK....so now you are saying that Tea Party supports Democrats.....thanks for flipping that position.
Another baseless attack from the fascist republican party. He accuses me of saying something.
When dared to quote me, he can't.
Strike one.
When I debunk his argument, he can't refute me.
Strike two.
And now he accuses me of changing my position, which I haven't.
Strike three Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock. You're out.
"All those people who attended rallies are now attacking the Tea Party candidate and promoting the same-old republican candidates. The Tea Partiers were completely taken advantage of by the GOP... this is more proof of that."
When Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock attack Ashjian because his friend is a Democrat and a lawyer, I wrote:
"Why is this a problem? You guys have been telling us that the tea party is nonpartisan and that both sides are represented."
"Now you think a Democrat supporting the Tea Party candidate is a bad thing? Have you seen the generic polls about a tea party candidate? 10% of Democrats vote for the generic tea party candidate."
"Nope, Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock can't get his own argument straight."
"He has told us that the Tea Party candidate isn't a real tea party candidate. He uses the fact that a Democratic friend supports the tea party candidate."
"I thought everyone said the tea party was nonpartisan. Now the very people who were promoting the tea party are telling everyone to vote for the republican!"
I've never claimed that Ashjian was not a true member of the tea party. I've claimed that the commenters here who laid claim to knowledge of the tea party can't help but attack someone who tried to get elected on their platform because they've been taken advantage by the GOP.
They stirred you guys up and expected you to fall back in line to vote for the same-old republican party. Now that the tea party has an actual candidate the GOP is getting you guys to attack him as a conspiracy theory.
Sorry, Sgt jfNance32 Rock, you have NOTHING to stand on here and I'd appreciate an apology for your lies about my position.
Just what we need..another businessman throwing his hat into the ring.
Anyone remember Jerry Airola running for Sheriff? Didn't work out so well for him did it. He couldn't even not run his business into the ground.
I don't believe this guy fairs much better..
I believe it's all a scam fronted by the Dems to deflect away from people's displeasure and defer votes. Give it time..it'll come out.
And as gmag39 states above to sgtrock..Feel free to have his attorney contact me..it's called freedom of speech.
I am not pleased with the actions of either party of late, but all this crap needs to stop and we need to get people elected that will do positive things for this country.
I for one don't trust a man who can't handle his own business dealings to be elected to such a position. He'll never win..but his running is a joke and a waste of time.
Funny how conservatives always accuse liberals of doing the very same things they do--like it's only evil when libs do it. Since they're all Gordon Liddy wannabes, they can't imagine that everyone else isn't as depraved as they are.
lv1,
Are you familiar with the concept of LIBEL?
http://www.medialaw.org/Content/Navigati...
ksand,
stg32rocknance1717appleslices WOULD have a hard time keeping his stories straight...obfuscating using all those personalities would be difficult at best!
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Pierre Biau Regardieux
It seems personal attacks and rudness have infected your amusements of commenting amongst the elite.
If only some comprehensibility could possibly be made of what your words actually mean. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Merci . Note the good work of the - Locals For Discounts At Casinos Groups Of Western Nevada
Poor "lil Danny the Tark.".......he should go back to area 51 with all the other nut jobs who believe we never went to the moon!!!!
He scared of a guy who is Armenian and Mormon? Both minorities in the nation!!!!!!!
"Baby Tark" should pull his old journals from Fresno State where he had a multitiude of offenses. 1000 times worse than this guy Ashjian!!!!!!
Fights, drinking , drugs,its all there........even point shaving! He's calling Ashjian "dirty"??????
They won't even let him on "the bus" ..... sounds like the NAACP would get hold of this????
Let Ashjian run and let the chips fall were they fall!!!!!!!!!!
Gmag39
Very much so..
Thank you for your link which provides the following:
"The statement(s) alleged to be defamatory must also be a false statement of fact"
"the primary defenses to a defamation claim are that the statements are true.."
key word..false. If someone can back it up then it isn't false.
Thank you and good night.
Hit a nerve again!
Wow......so are you now saying the Tea Party has a bi-partisan edge to it?
Thanks again
Nice article LV Sun. Glad to see it.
I recently took an informal poll of attitudes toward Sen. Reid in Nevada while doing political canvasing work for a Washington non-profit. I spoke to about 600 Nevadans of all types. Many who you would think would not support Sen. Reid said very kind things about him. The opposite was also true but to a far lesser extent. The number of hard core angry extreme right wingers was very low. Most Nevadans I encountered were all for change and not happy with most of our incumbants. The ratio of fringe (tea bag type) extreme right wingers was about the same as the national ratio of those who listen to conservative talk radio: a very small percentage of the total population. I am one of those who has never listened to talk radio and I only know one person who does.
"Thanks again"
For debunking you thoroughly? Any time!
Let's see
ksand99 thinks people should support a person that has over $200k in debt to the IRS, has never been on seen at any tea party event, has a bunch of businesses that flopped and has a business license suspended by the state and whose right hand man is a Democrat.
That sounds about right....he thinks Reid is a good choice, too.
Reid IS a good choice.
Maybe someone should investigate why Brian Sandoval is running for Governor.
Who would quit a lifetime appointment on the bench for a chance at Governor of Nevada, if in fact being Governor is his only interest here?
Verrrry FISHY... something stinks here. I think he's a plant. I've never seen him "around" before; all the sudden he wants to be Governor??
I know some in the Republican Guard aren't happy with Sandoval as a candidate... he's certainly not "Conservative Stock"...
Wait a minute! He's a RORY REID PLANT! The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree!
Dang, Gibbons and Sandoval fight it out, and RORY REID emerges looking more attractive, somehow, as a candidate... (that's a tough one to sell, but let's go with it)!
Those Reids, they will do ANYTHING to win!
The more Little Tark" talks, the less likely he appears to be a serious candidate.....
Where in the world does he come up with his nonsense? He says Ashjian is a Harry Reid plant.....Wow! What's next?
I see where PvtRock has his panties in a wad over the candidacy of Ashjian. No surprise there...
The statement by PvtRock saying "one day we could have thousands of parties and candidates on a ballot and the ballot will be pages and pages and pages long" is beyond funny.
It appears the "little rock guy" is for the democratic process as long as it fits his political agenda...
Actually, I worry about PvtRock, & several of his right-wing "I hate Harry buddies." They're going to have a major melt down when Harry gets re-elected...
Harry is by far the best candidate for the job....elect "baby Tark" or "Sorry Sue" and Nevada goes to the very back of the line when it comes to a political presence in Washington...
Harry's tenure in Washington has been good for Nevada. We need to send him back for another term.......
greg: Reid is a good choice for precisely what? He clearly is in over his head in Washington. Blub, blub. He doesn't have the status or mettle for the job he holds.
Bradgore: you live in a bubble. What's sad is that you are oblivious.
How a low rung musician can get big money to buy a casino is really what is fishy, I hope there is an investigation of that as well as the traffic accident involving the Reid family. Given the past car bombing attempt on the Reid's station wagon, when he was involved in gaming control (and the Lowdens were getting their "loan" to buy a casino.)
I hope there is a thorough investigation to find out if this was another dittohead act of domestic terrorism, like the Austin IRS plane crash.
Harry Reid formally notified Republicans on Thursday that he will attempt to pass the final changes to a healthcare overhaul through the budget process of reconciliation as soon as he can find 51 Democrats that are willing to vote for it.
Harry would like to get it passed before he is voted out of office in November...
Harry Reid will be re-elected in November.
Mikegino: Thankyou, Yes you are correct but pleae don't be sad! I live in a bubble. Big blue one in fact.For me being oblivious to certain stuff is a compliment as I am a scientist. I choose to respect the right of all to express their view without personal attack.
Hey SgtRock- I could careless how much the IRS says he owes them. Know how easy it for a business owner to "owe" the IRS. Besides maybe it would motivate him to help reel the taxes in.
Well some of you have it right and the other half of you have it right!
The Republican Party is in a fight within itself but what you fail to realize is that the Democratic Party is also in a fight within itself as well!
The tea party movement is not just Republicans, there are Democrats in that mix as well.
So the Republicans like myself who represent the "true Republicans" and the "true Democrats" are finding a bond to expel the fringes of our party who have been bought and paid for at our expense!
We realize we are Americans first, above any party affiliation!
This is the direction that both parties must take for us to get back to representing the people and doing what is fair, honest and transparent for all to see!
To be honest, Im not sure who I will vote for in the US Senate race yet! I suppose I want to hear more before I decide!
Thanks
Billy Soloe
Republican Candidate
Nevada Senate District 10
I am starting to get sick because I can see what is going to happen. Conservative Republicans need to run as just that, A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN. This Tea Party BS is going to hand the Marxist Liberals an even bigger super majority. Keep it up morons, Obama hasn't even gotten started.
The TEA PARTY was just started as a friggin movement, not an actual political party. I cannot believe people are actually going to fall for a third party right now....NOT NOW!
VOTE THEM ALL OUT! No more D's or R's or I's or TP's. People, think about it...these problems, these government problems and these economic problems were all caused by your CONGRESS and your HOUSE! They write the laws, and then they sign the laws into effect! Just about ALL of them have been in office for 10+ years, meaning to say THEY are all to blame for right now! DRAIN THE SWAMP and quit being such dimwitted sheeple!
now that ashcan has entered the senatorial race the republicans are coming up with some fascinating conspiracy ideas, sort of like the 9/11 nuts. hey GOP, this is democracy in action; the tea party exists solely because the GOP is incompetent and spends money just as well as the democrats!
martin....if you want to have low standards and vote for somebody that had his business license suspended, has a track record of failed businesses and owes the IRS lots of money then that is your right.
You probably are somebody that thinks Reid is great Senator.
Talk about low standards.
Anyone who claims that the Tea Party is "bipartisan" and offers equal access to Dems is either lying or stupid.
No self-respecting Democrat would come within ten miles of a Tea Party.
The way this fella Ashjian is being pilloried by the NutJobs on the right, one would think that the Devil himself had declared his candidacy.
No wonder decent folks wouldn't run for elected office if it was the last job on earth.
Love the ignorance of folks that think there are NO Dems in the Tea Party. There are all sorts of responsible American citizen taxpayers that are fed up with bogus spending.
Now the 'No self respecting Dem would be one' comment proves my point. Seems that ANY SELF RESPECTING taxpayer would be one.
Yet, only the selfish, give to me, I won't earn my way, you have to take care of me, or I'll spend your money but not mine - Is the motto of this current crop of 'Self Respecting' Democrats.
Also, if you think H. gReid is taking proper care of Nevada, just look how he handled his own loving family (broken neck, broken back, broken face) as he couldn't wait to get back behind closed door...
SgtRock- Lets see, you complain about tax and spend liberals. I say (tongue and cheek) "Besides maybe it would motivate him to help reel the taxes in."
you say:
"owes the IRS lots of money then that is your right.
You probably are somebody that thinks Reid is great Senator.
Talk about low standards."
Huhh?
Anyway, no I do not care about that when all we see is the surface. Do you know how easy it is for a business man who has done any real volume of business to get hit with a bill like that? One audit and "disallowing" deductions or expenses that went into the business and were never seen by the owners. And the business is then sunk from "collection activity". Maybe you are one of the career w-2 people who have know idea how it really works.
Failed business, means someone is not qualified to run for office?
"ksand99 thinks people should support a person that has over $200k in debt to the IRS, has never been on seen at any tea party event, has a bunch of businesses that flopped and has a business license suspended by the state and whose right hand man is a Democrat."
More lies and propaganda from Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock? It must be Friday.
Where did I say people should support Ashjian? Quote me, don't be cowardly.
As far as, "has never been on seen at any tea party event?" Seems someone's lying again!
"Lowden's campaign noted that the candidate "has attended and contributed to the Tea Party efforts in Nevada, but she has never met Mr. Ashjian at any of their events.""
That's a quote from THIS ARTICLE.
Are you lying Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock, or is Lowden?
It'll be SgtRock vs. Sue Lowden... who to believe?
Too bad, ol Dirty Harry's gonna win this one after all. The GOP can't come up with a credible candidate to run so we're stuck with the momo again. Lets see, Sue Lowden? haaaa yeah right, Tarkanian? mmmm nope , and this wacked out muslim lookin dude? oh wait ,, it worked for Obama. Heyyyy , there just might be a fight here.
More personal attacks from edgewise and ksand99...
When is the LV SUN going to start enforcing their guidelines???
The LV SUN policy states: "Agree not to use this forum for personal attacks. This includes any sort of personal attack."
*Comments are moderated by Las Vegas Sun editors...Comments should be relevant and contain no abusive language. Comments that are off-topic, vulgar, profane or include personal attacks will be removed.*
Oh really? Why does the sun not remove posts that use a vulgar term for the tea party?
greg: can you provide documentation that John Cha-Cha-Cha contributed to Obama 2008?
As Vin Diesel said in the movie RIDDICK, "You keep what you kill." The old saying, "If you lie down with dogs, you'll get fleas," also comes to mind. LOL
"has a bunch of businesses that flopped"
Well, maybe if his father had been George H. W. Bush, he might have been bailed out.
"As far as, "has never been on seen at any tea party event?" Seems someone's lying again!"
Ok...you are calling Ashjian a lair. He has said that he has never been to a tea party.
Thanks for the 411
Actually, you've just proven that Lowden's campaign is lying. They're saying he has been to tea party events.
I expect you will campaign against lying Lowden, then, right jfNance32 SgtRock?
Can you back up your dubious statement that Lowden's campaign said that?
I call your BS and raise you.
I can find a 2 day old quote in a major news site that says the exact opposite.
ksand99 sure likes to call people liars. He should be ashamed of himself, but he isn't...
Calling someone a liar is a sign of immaturity and a lack of confidence...
According to ksand99, Lowden's campaign is lying and that Lowden is lying herself.
So sad for a self centered little boy with dubious integrity...
fox news rockhead?
"Can you back up your dubious statement that Lowden's campaign said that?"
Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock, you're showing your ignorance. Here is a quote from THIS NEWS STORY THAT YOU ARE COMMENTING ON, genius!
"Yet the conspiracy proved too tempting, as Lowden's campaign noted that the candidate "has attended and contributed to the Tea Party efforts in Nevada, but she has never met Mr. Ashjian at any of their events.""
Scroll up and read it and weep.
Lowden's campaign says Ashjian "has attended and contributed to the Tea Party efforts in Nevada..."
You're wrong. Again.
A spokesman for Tea Party Express, a national Tea Party group that is encouraging efforts to defeat Reid at the ballot box in November, says it does not view Ashjian as a serious candidate.
They say he's not speaking at either of their two rallies in Nevada on March 27, when they kick off their third Tea Party cross-country caravan with events in Searchlight and Las Vegas.
Lowden says she's been very active with Tea Party groups in Nevada. "I am a Tea Party voter, absolutely." Which is why she says she finds it "a little strange" that Ashjian is emerging now. "I don't know who this person is. He's never been involved with anything that I'm aware of in this state."
She doesn't know if he's a spoiler. "We'll find out for sure," she promises, adding, "I've never seen him at one of our Tea Parties, by the way."
So do you believe Lowden and her campaign when they say that Ashjian, "has attended and contributed to the Tea Party efforts in Nevada" Larry?
Or do you think her campaign is being dishonest?
Do you believe SgtRock or Lowden's campaign?
Your wasting you time trying to fire me up with your personal attacks there ksand99. I don't have the time or inclination to answer your silly little boy type questions.
Go bother someone who gives a good crap...
You just took time to tell me you weren't going to take time to respond to me?
What?
Do me a favor, don't take any time responding to me, I don't mind! I can already tell from your history of contradictory posts that you don't put much thought into your posts, anyway.
I'd like to know: do you believe SgtRock's story or Lowden's story?
I would believe SgtRock, Sue Lowden and just about anybody other than the dishonest ksand99...
Besides, your wasting you time trying to fire me up with your personal attacks there ksand99. I don't have the inclination to answer your silly little boy type questions.
ksand99's personal attacks are considered a calumny by most of us except for the LV SUN...
Well that's strange, because SgtRock is denying Ashjian has ever been to a tea party event.
Sue Lowden's campaign is claiming he has been to events.
You can't believe both are true, sorta like you can't say you voted for Dina Titus and also say you didn't vote for Dina Titus. That would be dishonest, Larry.
So do you think Ashjian has been to tea party events?
All of these teabaggers are nuts.
ksand99.....thanks for the laugh.
You have proven to be a LIAR (usuing the stupid logic you through at Larry all the time) and/or a DUFUS.
You lied and said the Lowden campaign said that Ashjian attended tea parties.
Then you cited this: "Yet the conspiracy proved too tempting, as Lowden's campaign noted that the candidate "has attended and contributed to the Tea Party efforts in Nevada, but she has never met Mr. Ashjian at any of their events."
I do this very s.l...o....w.....y.
The "candidate" that they are refering to in that statement......is.........SUE LOWDEN..........you dummmy.
I parse it out for ya since you have a reading problem.
They are saying she has been to tea parties events and has not seen Ashjian at any tea parties events.
Perhaps, it is because the Sun reporter has a writing problem and he is not being clear on who "that candidate" is. But he does give a big big hint for he says, "Yet the conspiracy proved too tempting" which means that the Lowden camp is supporting the theory that Ahsjian is not a true Tea Party member and then list his lack attending Tea Parties as strong evidence of that.
Here is a similar story but written by professional newspaper reporters and they make no bones about who said what.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/03/10/t...
"Lowden says she's been very active with Tea Party groups in Nevada. "I am a Tea Party voter, absolutely." Which is why she says she finds it "a little strange" that Ashjian is emerging now. "I don't know who this person is. He's never been involved with anything that I'm aware of in this state."
She doesn't know if he's a spoiler. "We'll find out for sure," she promises, adding, "I've never seen him at one of our Tea Parties, by the way."
Thank you.....thank you.....thank you.....for one of the biggest laughs in a long long time.
I needed a pick-me-up.
Perhaps, I do something similar dumb and give you a laugh, too.
If Lowden has been active with Tea Party
groups, she's just another Sarah Palin.