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Tuesday, March 2, 2010 | 2 a.m.
Rep. Dina Titus smiles during a visit at the College of Southern Nevada in Henderson Tuesday, Aug. 18, 2009.
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Ignoring that she’s a freshman congresswoman and he’s a two-term senator, Democratic Rep. Dina Titus leveled a broadside against Sen. Jim Bunning of Kentucky, who is holding up an extension of unemployment benefits for out-of-work Nevadans.
For days, Bunning has blocked a vote on extending jobless benefits, saying he believes the aid should not be added to the national debt.
But as he makes his case, nearly 20,000 out-of-work Nevadans, among more than 1 million Americans nationwide, will run out of benefits this month unless the program is extended. Nearly 176,000 Nevadans are out of work.
“Sen. Bunning’s obstructionist delay tactics are a perfect example of why the American people think Washington is broken,” Titus said.
With Southern Nevada residents “facing high unemployment, a foreclosure crisis and skyrocketing health care costs, they want to see elected officials working together,” she said. “Unfortunately, one Republican in the Senate is standing in the way.”
Titus is in many ways a foot soldier in the Democrats’ new strategy to call out Republicans on their opposition to popular legislation.
Democrats, particularly those in the House, are frustrated that so much of their work has stalled in the Senate.
The case of the lone Kentuckian blocking unemployment benefits — like the objections last month of one Republican, Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama, to President Barack Obama’s nominees for various federal posts — puts a face on a sometimes confusing tactic.
In response, Democratic leadership armed rank-and-file lawmakers with information about the stalemate, making no secret of their frustration.
Democratic Rep. Shelley Berkley fired off a pointed statement — though she did not name names.
“With Nevada’s unemployment rate in double digits and families relying on these benefits to put food on the table for breakfast, lunch and dinner, this move will only punish those in our community who are already struggling,” Berkley said.
The jobless benefits are part of a House bill that passed unanimously last week to extend several safety net programs that were part of the stimulus bill.
The bill would extend for one month the unemployment benefits as well as the 65 percent COBRA subsidy, which helps pay health insurance costs for laid-off workers who remain on their previous employers’ health plans. It also includes an annual pay adjustment for Medicare doctors and an extension of highway spending.
Bunning argues that he is not against the aid, he just believes the government should not provide further benefits by tacking the costs onto the federal debt. The safety net provisions would cost an estimated $10 billion, which he favors paying for with unspent stimulus funding.
“We can’t keep shipping our spending to our kids and grandkids,” Bunning said.
Bunning points to the pay-as-you-go rule that was adopted by Congress last month. It requires new spending to be offset by cuts elsewhere.
On Monday, Day Four of his objections, Bunning vowed to press on: “I will be here.”
Democrats argue that COBRA and jobless benefits have been treated as emergency aid, not subject to the pay-as-you-go rule. Democrats on Monday released a list of Bunning’s past votes for bills that were not paid for — earlier jobless benefits, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and President George W. Bush’s tax cuts.
Titus spokesman Andrew Stoddard said the congresswoman decided to make a statement against Bunning because his objection was directly hitting her district.
“This is a case where it’s very clear what is going on,” he said.
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That's nice... So what bill is she plan'n on introducing to fix this???Or Reid for that matter..
Senator Jim Bunning points to the pay-as-you-go rule that was adopted by Congress last month. It requires new spending to be offset by cuts elsewhere.
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Democratic Rep. Shelley Berkley and Democratic Rep. Dina Titus supported the pay as you go bill last month
So Democratic Rep. Shelley Berkley and Democratic Rep. Dina Titus have decided they do not apply the law that they just passed to cover the $10 billion.
Why did Democratic Rep. Shelley Berkley and Democratic Rep. Dina Titus pass a law they did not intend to follow?
They need to throw Sen. Bunning into a dark alley full of people whose benefits has run out.
The Law never applies to the Libs/Progs when they are stealing our money.
So she changed her mind, so what? She has the right idea. Go Dina Go!!!!!! Someone has to fight for the unemployed. The Rightwing cry babies won't.
The GOP are RAGING hypocrites. Bunning is walking lockstep with his party of obstructionist maggots--ah...he should've been worrying about cost savings when the GOP used reconcilliation to pass the UNFUNDED prescription drug bill that added 8 TILLION dollars to the deficit, and the 2 bush tax cuts, and the UNFUNDED wars, but, no, he voted for them.
The GOP are only worried about fiscal issues when they are OUT-of-power; when they are in power, they borrow/tax/spend us into oblivion--where we were a year ago before President Obama signed the Stimulous.
Do NOT vote for a republican--they are uncaring hypocrites, liars, power-hungry, greedy, maggots.
Now Here's The Memo:::::::
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" Now here's a Democrat woman congressman doing something right for a change. On top of that she's darn attractive, very much so.
She can come on this show anytime she wants. Anytime, see, here at Fix we don't disconern. See that blonde hair and gorgeous teeth?
My kind of gal!
Now I know, some of you haters out there love to point out the fact that I agreed on a settlement in my sexual harrassment suit a couple of years back, but we all know what that was all about? Right? Sure, a disgruntled young woman here at the station knew I had money and she launched after it. Well, its just the way it is. That's show biz.
This Bunning guy is a jerk! We all know that. His own party told him not to run that they would not support him. He's an old has been and also a hater. He has to be in his 60's already, way too old to have any clear thinking at all. Pay as you go destroys the very value of this nation. No cars, homes or nothin if that was the way. This Bunning should be dumped.
Back to Dina ... man, I can't wait to meet this woman ... can't wait. She is drop dead pretty in every way I can imagine. Hey, my wife knows how I am!!
Geez, I sure hope that nut case Sen. HonEnginee doesn't notice this gal ... he'll wreck her family in a New Jersey second!! Is he still representing Nevada?"
As Always Folks, Bill being Bill
Why is it not being reported that Bunning suggested using stimulus money to pay for it. When Reid said okay, Bunning didn't want to put it to a vote. Why is that?
Why isn't it being reported that Senator Kyl thinks unemployment benefits make people lazy, totally ignoring the fact that there are simply not enough jobs for all the unemployed? When are people going to figure out that Republicans simply don't care about them?
I was for "Pay as you go" before I was against it. Typical.
Hey Tina or Dina,
We need jobs, and that will stop the need for unemployment. Bunning is right.
Dina: What part of WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY do you not understand? WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. Maybe if I say it three times she'll hear me. Fat chance. I'll let her know in November.
Dina Titus wants unemployment extended because come November both she and Harry Greid will be unemployed.
You just can't keep extending unemployment benefits. After 2 years you really can't call it a benefit. The minute someone realizes that the free, weekly $300 has stopped then and only then will creativity take over that will get them out of the hole they are in. The weekly bandaid keeps people from exploring other options like the food bank, really trying to get a job, taking a job that doesn't pay well, moving out of the area, discovering something better for you in another state, selling off all your valuable stuff or even going on welfare. I feel that the weekly freebie is holding you back and the only time that you will really try to better yourself is when that unemployment "benefit" finally exhausts itself.
Kaliscanner:
You think people really WANT to live on $300 a week, lose their home, lose their car, basically lose everything just so they can get that "free" $300 a week? That really has to be about the most asinine thing I've heard in quite awhile.
This for nors. This president and his party have already spend more money than any other president. So I think you just wants a welfare check instead of working for it.
All Bunning is doing is delaying those benefits. Once the extension is passed - everyone will be paid in full.
Bunning is another crochety old white guy like McCain. So he says he wants to see the money come from someplace else and not pass it on to kids and grandkids. At his age, his kids are the adults that need it and his grand kids are direct beneficiaries of having food in their mouths. What is it with this country as it lets its own die because of no health insurance and lets its own starve over stupid things like this. Saying there is no money is hysterical. We can shift numbers in and out of any Bill in the Senate or House from anything to anything. And for those who want their neighbors to starve and be thrown in the street, don't be surprised if a mob of people break down your front door for what you have when their family's existence is at stake. This is why riots break out in other countries. Don't think it can't happen here.
Hey ShannonK,
No, the most asinine thing that you have heard are the voices in your head that tell you it's OK for for people to receive unemployment benefits forever. Who is gonna pay for that? Mmmm, ShannonK? You must be getting scared that your's is running out. At what point do people start doing things for themselves?
You GO Girl!
I want to work for her.
(Hey Dina...could you use a 56 year-old critical thinker with a dual degree in communications? I've been out of work for two-years this very month.)
nez sez,
"The Law never applies to the Libs/Progs when they are stealing our money."
Yep. Yur right! Every person collecting unemployment today is a lib/prog! There's MILLIONS OF THEM! And it's all YOUR MONEY they are stealing! WOW!
Kaliscanner, you seem tense. Take some deep breaths. ShannonK is simply pointing out that of those MILLIONS OF UNEMPLOYED, the lions share would like a gig. There just isn't a big long-term interest for the majority of adults to exist on 300 dollars a month. And, needless to say, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE VOTE, and effect THE ECONOMY. So yes, there is some governmental interest in keeping folks in hot dogs and hamburger helper, and a tank of gas to go look for work.
Fossimons,
Dina is a happily married woman, and likely more than you can handle, if you know what I mean!
Though she IS a handsome woman to be sure, comrade.
Can't we make the jobless benifits to all who collected in the last ten years get extended? I am sure there are millions who would love to see their Unemployment money go on forever. Having seen the lukewarm reception that Titus and Berkley received at the 9/11 Artifac Dedication on Saturday at the Atomic Energy Museum, I think they are on their way to the Unemployment line, Approximately 500 Las Vegas citizens gathed to pay homage to the victims of 9/11 and the NYPD and the NYFD representatives from NYC. That was their only common denominator. Mayor Oscar got a rousing, cheering, loud clapping reception. John Ensign got lots of loud clapping. Titus and Berkley got a polite round of low level clapping and Harry Reid's representative got a few scattered claps. Harry choose not to attend the Dedication. Wonder if Harry's representative choose to tell Harry "It looks bad". If this little event is a small demonstration of the November elections, you betch Titus wants unemployment benifits extended.
What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
Maybe titus & berkley should consider helping the situation instead of going for the usual political cheap shots like harry reid.
Thank you Rep. Titus for sticking up for Nevada. In politics, politicians forget that they are elected to speak for their constituents, not just hold on to their jobs. Sometimes you get hard knocks for that. As for the subject matter, compassion is in order. Some people will always find a way to work the system, but the majority of people seeking benefits really need them. I support you Rep Titus.
The bluk of the spending in the bill being debated has nothing to do with unemployment benefits. Less than 10% of the spending in the bill deals with unemployment benefits.
Reid should just narrow the bill to unemployment benefits or find a way to fund the bill.
I am shocked...shocked that Titus wants to run up the deficit for non-unemployment benefits spending!!!!!!
Did you see that work on the Hoover Dam bridge is suspended until this bill is passed? Not sure which area of the bridge is affected, but I read it in the Washington Post. This old fool ex-baseball player is your typical Southern Redneck, jeopardizing our future. May he rot in Hell...
Why did Senator Reid wait until just a few days before the benefits expired?
The fallacy is there are no jobs out there. there are jobs, but they may not be the perfect job. Companies like Wal-Mart and K-Mart and other retail and grocery store chains hire and more tan $300 a week. Now, you may actuaaly have to do work, but it is a job.
So, stop bs'ing around and get a job and stop being lazy. 2 years of unemployment is enough. Further, it should be pay as you go. It's something Obama supports.
You Rightwingers spend all the money on wars. Clinton had 8 trillion in surplus but the Bush man Squandered it on the same war his old man started. GOP warmongers are always blowing it on wars. And then they vote the minimum wage down every time. Whooopee!!!!!!
Shannon K: You think people really WANT to live on $300 a week, lose their home, lose their car, basically lose everything just so they can get that "free" $300 a week? That really has to be about the most asinine thing I've heard in quite awhile.
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Yes, there are a lot of lazy shmucks in Las Vegas who can live fairly decently off of unemployment. I know of 4 20 somethings that pay their rent, eat, go out just fine off of that $1200. The point is, like most government programs, there is little to NO oversight which naturally leads to abuse.
"The bluk of the spending in the bill being debated has nothing to do with unemployment benefits. Less than 10% of the spending in the bill deals with unemployment benefits. Reid should just narrow the bill to unemployment benefits or find a way to fund the bill."
Bunning doesn't object to the contents of the bill. He said he supports extending jobless benefits.
He's stalling it for political theater.
He's whining about PAYGO, when he voted for things which violated the rule. He voted for the Medicare Modernization Act, which violated the ideas of PAYGO. He voted for the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003, which violated the ideas of PAYGO. He made no effort to renew PAYGO when it expired under the Republican Congress.
It is that kind of inconsistency that the American people can't stand.
Repubs&dems can always find money to fund WARS...
"What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving"
Until THAT person who is NOT receiving finds himself/herself on the other side and has to start receiving without working because they, too, become unemployed....
It's a two way street and your fortunes can change in a heartbeat.
Dhvincent
You sure as hell do not know what is going on out there!!! Yeah, stand in line for that Walmart job because there are 100 applicants before you. Stand in line for that McDonald's job for there are 125 KIDS (who all speak Spanish) in line before you (guess who'll get the job first???). Send out your resume and maybe, just maybe, someone will find it in the stack of the other 200 the employer has received.
UNTIL YOU YOURSELF have to go out and look for a job - quit your yapping about something you know nothing about or have experienced first hand.
Hey times are tough for all of us, but lets get real and honest - Unemployment is at what now 52weeks.
We're all paying higher taxes to support more non citizens and children of such - Hurts now huh? Sure hurts me, I don't get LIEHA, or Houseing subside, or Food Stamps and refuse to speak Spanish as a primary language.
Dina as messed with us since day one, but it was ok cause you had jobs. PAY AS YOU GO is honest and fair - Though it does hurt. Quit the bennies to non citizens & children of non citizens.
What? A Republican refusing to support an insurance plan? Oh, wait, the Republicans only support making the people pay into Big Insurance Plans with PREMIUMS! This issue is about the Big Insurance plan paying out to the people - now, I see the rotten republican view!
Go Dina - GO! I think I'm just going to have to do even more volunteer work to make sure the citizens of NV-CD #3 RE-ELECT DINA TITUS as our Congresswoman for being so courageous!
I just wanted to point out that there is massive EMPLOYER fraud going on in Nevada. Employers have figured out that if they say that an employee was terminated for "misconduct" their unemployment taxes don't increase. The number of "misconduct" terminations has wildly increased from those a few years ago.
At this juncture, the first step in an unemployed person appealing an employer fraud on the grounds for termination is a hearing before a hearing officer. At present, it takes 5 to 6 months just to get a hearing date, and then another month for the hearing examiner to write the decision.
As a lawyer, I've found it quite interesting to sit in the waiting room at the hearing examiners' offices, and see the paid "consultants" hired by employers present fraudulent claims.
During the waiting for the decision, the employer has no increase in its unemployment taxes while you and I, the taxpayers shoulder the burden of economically supporting (if you can call it that) the unemployed person, when the former employer should be doing so.
Bunning points the hypocrisy of passing paygo to which the left says it supports. Titus and Berkley both voted for it. Some of you people on here should read each others comments to see how stupid you sound.
"Bunning doesn't object to the contents of the bill. He said he supports extending jobless benefits.
He's stalling it for political theater.
He's whining about PAYGO."
He is offering a way to pay for the benefits too.
Reid is the one now holding it up and doing political theater.
"During the waiting for the decision, the employer has no increase in its unemployment taxes while you and I, the taxpayers shoulder the burden of economically supporting (if you can call it that) the unemployed person, when the former employer should be doing so"
I just received a form in the mail from DETR. It breaks down what my former employer has paid for my unemployment so far and what the State has paid. The employer has paid a little over 2/3rds of the monies, while the rest came from the State, the total being about 1/3rd of what my salary was while working, actually less then a 1/3rd when you deduct taxes.
I am assuming, Cynical O, that during this process you mention, the employer is STILL picking up the unemployment tab, just not paying taxes. Also, on this form I received, no where does it list what came from the Stimulus money from last year which is an add'l $25 per week but then if you can multiply, one can figure it out!
I lost my job seven weeks ago, and let me tell you, there are not a lot of jobs out there. For every job I apply for, there are at least 100 to 200 people appling for that same job, whether they are qualified or not. And these jobs all pay at or below what I recieve from unemployment. In seven weeks time, I have had three calls and one interview from the hundreds of jobs I applied for. I have worked my butt off for many years to get to where I am, and now I am faced with the reality of possibly loosing everything, including my home, if I don't find work soon. I did not ask to be laid off, it was my previous employers decision based on work load vs. the bottom line. In other words, the big boys want to continue to buy their big boats and take their world wide vacations, and keeping me means they would have to buy a smaller boat or take a vacation in the states. They won't change their lifestyle!! Now our so called leaders in Washington are playing a stupid game in dealing with the unemployment benefits, while those that truly depend on the money will go without. Wonder how fast they would agree and vote on extending the benefits if they had their pay stopped? This doesn't hit their wallets or the wallets of the CEO and executives receiving the huge bonuses that make up the lobbiests that truly run this country, so why should they care about us. They can obligate money to countries hit with natural disasters in a moments notice, but can't even agree on extending a helping hand to those in OUR country that truly need the help and support. We need to fix our home first, then we can go out and help our neighboring countries if needed.
Strange to see criticism of Reid for holding up unemployment benefits when it's under the Senate rules that Bunning is delaying. But, as news reports over the last couple of years have discussed, Bunning is just a little less there than he used to be, so whether he was hateful before or has just become that way depends on how you view his abysmal record.
It is amazing to watch Harry Reid in his best full throated "partisan" mode speaking on the Senate well in that ever so soft seething disdainful MONOTONE. With his nose in the air Reid utters elitist retorts to minority representatives.
In February 2010 Harry passed "Pay-As-You-Go" legislation, and then carefully explained to Senator Jim Bunning why he did NOT use it for the first appropriation that next came up.
Per Harry Reid "Pay-As-You-Go" does not apply to anything that he does not want it to apply too
Vegasmama hit it right on the head! Reid ( who's carcass is toast in Nov ) had a golden opportunity to have this extension in the previous jobs bill but theatre being what it is in D.C. today ( especially among democrats ) did not include this extension in that bill! The bottom line is this issue could of become a non-issue had Reid not put the American people out in front rather than playing " mind games " with the Republicans! Nevadans, that's the bottom line!
Sorry SgtRock, Bunning's just being a giant hypocrite about it:
"In recent days, Sen. Jim Bunning has been obstructing the passage of a bill that would extend unemployment benefits for nearly a million Americans, claiming that they aren't "paid for."
"But in 2003, Bunning not only voted for an unemployment extension but also put out a glowing press release lauding the extension of unemployment benefits as "hopeful news for our most needy families in Kentucky":"
"U.S. Senator Jim Bunning today announced that legislation to extend temporary unemployment benefits for an additional five months has passed the United States Congress. The legislation, which was unanimously approved yesterday by the Senate and by a vote of 416-4 today in the House, would also provide a temporary 13-week extension of unemployment benefits for all individuals who exhaust their traditional benefits before June 1, 2003. "The 108th Congress is off to a solid start," said Bunning. "This is hopeful news for our most needy families in Kentucky. By approving this legislation we will help those folks who are currently without work continue to make ends meet until they can find new employment." Passage of this legislation means that there will be no lapse in assistance for the nearly 10,000 Kentuckians who have filed claims so far for extended benefits. The last extension expired on December 28, 2002. President Bush is expected to sign the bill tomorrow, which means the next payment to states can still be made on Friday, January 10, as originally scheduled."
"The CBO estimates that at the time, the budgetary cost of the unemployment benefit increase was $6.6 billion between 2003 and 2007. The Labor Department estimates that 4,300 Kentuckians will lose their unemployment benefits during the week of March 13 without an extension. If Bunning's stance today is truly principled, then why didn't he stand up to fight the unpaid-for benefits in 2003, under the Republican President Bush?"
Actually, I believe it's the law that you do not have to accept a job that pays less then your unemployment check, anywhere. That's the way it used to be. Also, if you are a member of a union (collective bargaining unit), you do not have to prove to the Unemployment Office that you were pounding the pavement the previous week to collect your benefits as that IS the union's job to get YOU a job, as long you are a dues paying member in good standing. Them's the rules, repugs, them's the rules!
Dina Titus is pathetic. Bunning's example is why the system does work. Titus and many politicians think that no resistance is the path that works. That works for a river but not for policy creation. Benefits have already been extended and we don't need to keep it going forever.
This reminds me of a child that moves out a parents home and starts to live their life. The child hits a snag and calls mom and dad to help them out but mom and dad can only help so much. They have their own bills to pay but the child doesn't understand that money doesn't grow on trees and that if mom and dad are crushed by financial obligations, no one will have any money.
Liberals like Dina can't figure it out that everyone has a voice and a choice. Some may not like my comment but I'm not going to say that free speech in America or that the comment system on this site is broken.
Please remember that all money has to come from somewhere. The government only takes money.
Its OK to print more money for fat cat bankers and car makers but we can't afford to help the little people? Did we run out of paper?
Bunning has lost track of reality and needs to be unemployed. Like most Republicans, he only cares about himself and his money.
Go Dina!
We will get more of this vote buying by the Democrats the closer the November we get...
Jr99, liberal is defined as open-minded and willing to listen to others. Thanks for the compliment for Titus and, unintentionally, me.
Now could you please explain why you are defending one senator taking an action that a vast majority, including the Republican colleagues who shoved him aside today, support, is giving everyone a voice and a choice when the majority has made the choice and a minority of one is stopping it?
Nevada is already in debt to the Federal Government for one billion dollars for the last extension of unemployment benefits that also was a unfunded mandate.
Just what Nevada needs is another unfunded mandate that will cost all of us down the road.
It should be against the law for the Federal Government to pass a law that forces others to pay for it.
There should be a point in time that the chronic unemployed should switch over to public assistance welfare including medicaid.
"Emergency Unemployment Compensation (EUC) extended benefits are entirely federally funded from the Extended Unemployment Compensation Account, which means employers' reserve accounts will not be charged for any EUC extended benefits paid to claimants."
"The stimulus bill added up to 53 weeks of federally-funded unemployment benefits to the 26 weeks provided by states -- and then up to an additional 20 weeks of extended benefits. Without another extension, a person receiving unemployment benefits will not be
able to advance to the next tier of federal benefits after February (nobody would lose benefits mid-tier). The stimulus bill also provided a $25 weekly boost to benefit checks and a 65 percent subsidy of COBRA health insurance."
Do you not know what "federally-funded" means?
Larry says,
"We will get more of this vote buying by the Democrats the closer the November we get..."
That's a little hysterical, isn't it, Lar?
Acually, it's very hysterical!
And I believe you just got busted by the sandman.
Do you know how to list your source when you quote someone?
Well, since you never quote anyone, I assume you aren't capable of giving lessons...
Time after time you're asked to back up your ridiculous assertions and you reply that it's not your job to do the legwork. So, ditto.
I guess you still don't know what federally funded means...
Yup, Larry's confusing state-paid unemployment with federally-funded unemployment. They aren't the same thing.
The initial period of unemployment is state-paid, paid through funds collected from employers in the state. THAT fund has gone broke, but as of late last year, they had only (tax-free) borrowed some $260 million, not a billion like Larry implied.
The post-26 week extension of unemployment benefits, which passed in ARRA, are federally-funded, and was the entire subject of this article and the bill that Bunning was hypocritically whining about.
Didn't Larry read anything about what the fuss was about? Bunning was mad that the extension didn't find funding from a cut in government spending under paygo rules. The whole problem was the funding... which Larry called an unfunded mandate... which wasn't true.
"Extends Unemployment Benefits for 40,000 Jobless Nevadans: The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act provides up to 33 weeks of federally funded unemployment. Qualified Nevada workers will see their checks continue through December 2009. In addition, the legislation will temporarily provide 100% federal funding for the permanent-law Extended Benefits (EB) Program, which provides up to another 20 weeks of additional extended benefits in Nevada and other high unemployment states. "
"The majority of unemployment provisions included in The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act do not require any funding on the part of Nevada. However, Nevada can qualify for millions in additional funding by modernizing the State's unemployment system. Updating the system will increase fairness, especially for women in the workforce, and expand eligibility to include part-time employees."
"And I believe you just got busted by the sandman."
Can you believe that this is the guys who says he always debunks me, but can't offer a single example? LOL!
Yup, the more I read about it, the more incorrect Larry looks.
I'm even willing to admit when I made a mistake. I mean interest-free when I typed tax-free.
I wonder if Larry's going to admit he was wrong...
"Nevada is already in debt to the Federal Government for one billion dollars for the last extension of unemployment benefits that also was a unfunded mandate."
Already in debt for a billion dollars? Then why, just last month, did Gibbons' deputy chief of staff say we were "on track" to borrow a billion dollars because the state's unemployment insurance fund was broke?
"Lynn Hettrick, deputy chief of staff, said the governor wants to try to avoid more layoffs because the state must pay the full cost of unemployment benefits for affected workers. Nevada is on track to borrow $1 billion from the federal government to meet jobless claims because its unemployment insurance trust fund has gone broke."
"On track" to borrow one billion dollars is completely different from "already in debt."
"for the last extension of unemployment benefits that also was a unfunded mandate."
Nope, the extension of unemployment benefits is funded by ARRA and the feds.
Larry, did you see Orrin Hatch's op-ed in the Washington Post today? It was like a giant rotting piece of swiss cheese. Tons of factual errors, errors in reasoning, etc. Well you just pulled a Hatch-et job on this one, buddy.
Somebody better figure out a way to get people working again and soon.Instead of the gov.why dont these big investment banks have some pity on the taxpayers who saved their fat butts and hire people with some of their big profits?Also,why dont they start freeing up some $$ to businesses who want to expand their operations.They caused a lot of this mess,they should be the ones to take charge and fix it.
Kevin Sandoval aka ksand99 is posting incorrect information. But that is our boy...
I posted based on a LV SUN article last month:
"Nevada is already in debt to the Federal Government for one billion dollars for the last extension of unemployment benefits that also was a unfunded mandate."
Kevin Sandoval aka ksand99 respondes:
"Already in debt for a billion dollars? Then why, just last month, did Gibbons' deputy chief of staff say we were "on track" to borrow a billion dollars because the state's unemployment insurance fund was broke?"
For Liberals, like Sandoval, borrowing more money is not the same as "debt."
Again, Liberals will pass this "debt" on to others and think they are "saving the world..."
No wonder the country is so much financial trouble, with Liberals like this in charge...
PayGo doesn't include emergency funds.
Awwww.... look at Larry try to mince his words!
He said we were "already in debt for one billion dollars"
FACT CHECK: Nope, we haven't borrowed anywhere near a billion.
He said the extension of unemployment insurance was an "unfunded mandate."
FACT CHECK: Unfunded mandate? Nope, it was paid for by ARRA and the Feds.
"Extends Unemployment Benefits for 40,000 Jobless Nevadans: The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act provides up to 33 weeks of federally funded unemployment. Qualified Nevada workers will see their checks continue through December 2009. In addition, the legislation will temporarily provide 100% federal funding for the permanent-law Extended Benefits (EB) Program, which provides up to another 20 weeks of additional extended benefits in Nevada and other high unemployment states. "
"The majority of unemployment provisions included in The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act do not require any funding on the part of Nevada. However, Nevada can qualify for millions in additional funding by modernizing the State's unemployment system. Updating the system will increase fairness, especially for women in the workforce, and expand eligibility to include part-time employees."
Larry fails a fact check, yet again!
Larry, how is a program paid for by the Feds an unfunded mandate? Didn't you read the darn article? LOL!
Posting quotes without a cited source is not a fact my little Liberal friend.
Liberals just love to spin...
It's all wrong...
Unfunded mandates are wrong
Nevada already owes the Federal Government 900 million dollars for the last round of the unemployment compensation extension and now they want to do another extension...
Wow, Larry, I never knew how many lies you told, but this is proof that you just can't be trusted to tell the truth.
I'm seeing facts and evidence in Kevin's posts. I'm seeing you repeat lies and misinformation in your posts.
Via the Congressional Research Service:
"The act extends the temporary EUC08 program through December 26, 2009 (with grandfathering), to be financed by federal general revenues. It provides for 100% federal financing of the EB program to end before January 1, 2010 (with grandfathering), to be financed by the federal government through the Unemployment Trust Fund."
Larry's 100% wrong on this one, folks.
Michaelgreen,
Please do not confuse the reality of what a liberal is with the intended definition of liberalism. Progressives pretend to be for progress and communists pretend to be for the the community or equality for the people but the titles certainly don't match up.
I defend the actions of Bunnings because these are unfunded benefits that the state has to pay. Last time I checked, Nevada was losing money and is trying to figure out how to balance the budget. Washington has enormous debt obligations already and is not even close to sorting out their own house.
The questions is when does it stop? When does the country quit throwing money around. Senators like Kerry and Schuemer have been quoted saying that the American people can't understand the work they do and don't care how money gets spent. John Kerry even says that there is no difference between 10billion and 100 billion dollars.
You may think that the majority of senator have the right idea but you sorely mistaking and assuming that correctness is determined by the majority of the out of touch and corrupt.
I don't really trust dems or reps. I am a registered republican but I am a conservative. The republican party is also riddled with garbage.
I'm looking at the numbers and seeing who is behind them too. You may think that it is noble to give to those without jobs but it isn't if it costs us more jobs and more debt.
If I was vastly in debt, I couldn't help by giving money because I would not have any. I would have to pay off my debt and look at my debt to income ratio and make my decision based on my ability to pay them. If I continue to give when I don't have, it will only lead to bankruptcy and ruined credit that I may never recover from. Just because Washington has a printing press, it doesn't mean that they can run it with no consequence.
Michael, I have read many of posts and you are pretty reasonable. Washington DC has abandoned reason a long time ago.
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." -George Washington
The almost famous Charlie Rangel has contributed large amounts of money to Dina Titus over the past couple of years.
Why? Was he buying her support or something? Did Charlie know things were going to come crashing down on him and he was buying protection?
So you're saying that a freshman Congresswoman from Nevada has some sort of magical protection ability, LarryVegas?
I'll add that on to my fact check.
Larry said we were "already in debt for one billion dollars"
FACT CHECK: Nope, we haven't borrowed anywhere near a billion.
Larry said the extension of unemployment insurance was an "unfunded mandate."
FACT CHECK: Unfunded mandate? Nope, it was paid for by ARRA and the Feds.
"Extends Unemployment Benefits for 40,000 Jobless Nevadans: The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act provides up to 33 weeks of federally funded unemployment. Qualified Nevada workers will see their checks continue through December 2009. In addition, the legislation will temporarily provide 100% federal funding for the permanent-law Extended Benefits (EB) Program, which provides up to another 20 weeks of additional extended benefits in Nevada and other high unemployment states. "
"The majority of unemployment provisions included in The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act do not require any funding on the part of Nevada. However, Nevada can qualify for millions in additional funding by modernizing the State's unemployment system. Updating the system will increase fairness, especially for women in the workforce, and expand eligibility to include part-time employees."
Larry fails a fact check, yet again!
Larry, how is a program paid for by the Feds an unfunded mandate? Didn't you read the darn article? LOL!
ksand99,
I'm not wanting to write another long post today but the important facts are that Nevada is losing money. Another fact is the the federal government is accumulating an awful lot of debt and jobs are not created by unemployment checks. Nevada is a donor state (for the time being) and those unemployment dollars are real dollars that the state and the federal government don't really have.
I find the term "a state qualifying for federal dollars" to be quite funny when we fund that monster of a federal government.
You are correct that the fed says they are funding it but what happens when they stop and what happens if they don't stop? I have made the mistake of calling it unfunded but how does the fed fund anything?
Despite popular belief, we can't spend our way out of debt and into prosperity. Especially when it the Washington that spends the money. What I mean by that is that the economy is to complex to say that 3,000 earmarks will fix the problems of hundreds and thousands of businesses and hundreds of millions of people. The economy is too complex for a chamber of elected officials to fix. In addition, why does congress get to decide which businesses get help. Do you believe there is no benefit to that member of congress? This is a republican problem as much as a democrat one. Is it fair for them to pick winners and losers? I truly believe they are grossly overstepping their bounds.
I know I asked a lot of rhetorical questions but I would like to know your opinion (since know you have mine). Additionally I know you appear well read and you won't give a teamster answer.
Keviv Sandoval aka ksand99 said: "...that a freshman Congresswoman from Nevada has some sort of magical protection ability?"
The almost famous Charlie Rangel has contributed large amounts of money to Dina Titus over the past couple of years.
Why? Was he buying her support or something? Did Charlie know things were going to come crashing down on him and he was buying protection?
Ponzi-scheme mandates which fund unneeded labor upon the tab of the employed is as American as it gets -- isn't this a great country or what?
Kick back and collect is as American as it gets.
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Yup, Larry still thinks a freshman Congresswoman can protect Rangel. Is she on the House ethics committee? Nope.
I'll add that on to my fact check.
Larry said we were "already in debt for one billion dollars"
FACT CHECK: Nope, we haven't borrowed anywhere near a billion.
Larry said the extension of unemployment insurance was an "unfunded mandate."
FACT CHECK: Unfunded mandate? Nope, it was paid for by ARRA and the Feds.
"Extends Unemployment Benefits for 40,000 Jobless Nevadans: The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act provides up to 33 weeks of federally funded unemployment. Qualified Nevada workers will see their checks continue through December 2009. In addition, the legislation will temporarily provide 100% federal funding for the permanent-law Extended Benefits (EB) Program, which provides up to another 20 weeks of additional extended benefits in Nevada and other high unemployment states. "
"The majority of unemployment provisions included in The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act do not require any funding on the part of Nevada. However, Nevada can qualify for millions in additional funding by modernizing the State's unemployment system. Updating the system will increase fairness, especially for women in the workforce, and expand eligibility to include part-time employees."
Larry fails a fact check, yet again!
Larry, how is a program paid for by the Feds an unfunded mandate? Didn't you read the darn article? LOL!
"Nevada is already in debt to the Federal Government for one billion dollars for the last extension of unemployment benefits that also was a unfunded mandate.
Just what Nevada needs is another unfunded mandate that will cost all of us down the road."
Nevada is NOT THE ONLY STATE that is in debt for getting additional federal money for unemployment so stop your crying.
Vote out the carpetbagger this November! Tell her to go back to oklahoma or wherever she is from. Another do nothing politican. Vote independent/nonpartisan for all offices this November 2.
Titus has lived in Nevada and taught in Nevada for 30 years.
Maybe you need to look up the word "carpetbagger," George Washington.
Kevin Sandoval aka ksand99 said: "...that a freshman Congresswoman from Nevada has some sort of magical protection ability?"
The almost famous Charlie Rangel has contributed large amounts of money to Dina Titus over the past couple of years.
Why? Was he buying her support or something? Did Charlie know things were going to come crashing down on him and he was buying protection?
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LOL, Larry still thinks a freshman Congresswoman can protect Rangel. Is she on the House ethics committee? Nope. Is Larry barking up the wrong tree? Of course.
Is Larry making baseless allegations in the form of Glenn Beck "questions?" Yup.
I'll add that on to my fact check.
Larry said we were "already in debt for one billion dollars"
FACT CHECK: Nope, we haven't borrowed anywhere near a billion.
Larry said the extension of unemployment insurance was an "unfunded mandate."
FACT CHECK: Unfunded mandate? Nope, it was paid for by ARRA and the Feds.
"Extends Unemployment Benefits for 40,000 Jobless Nevadans: The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act provides up to 33 weeks of federally funded unemployment. Qualified Nevada workers will see their checks continue through December 2009. In addition, the legislation will temporarily provide 100% federal funding for the permanent-law Extended Benefits (EB) Program, which provides up to another 20 weeks of additional extended benefits in Nevada and other high unemployment states. "
"The majority of unemployment provisions included in The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act do not require any funding on the part of Nevada. However, Nevada can qualify for millions in additional funding by modernizing the State's unemployment system. Updating the system will increase fairness, especially for women in the workforce, and expand eligibility to include part-time employees."
Larry fails a fact check, yet again!
Larry, how is a program paid for by the Feds an unfunded mandate? Didn't you read the darn article? LOL!
Again and again Kevin Sandoval aka ksand99 posts quotes and doesn't name the source so the quote can be verified.
Typical elitist Liberal tricks...
Was Charlie Rangel buying Dina Titus support by contributed large amounts of money to her over the past couple of years?
Did Charlie know things were going to come crashing down on him and he was buying protection one vote at a time.
Why would an elected official take money from another elected official???
Sing it, Dina!
It's refreshing to hear Democrats stand up and shout. No need to be apologetic for calling the GOP out on their antics.
Her comments remind me of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and her no-holds-barred attack on the circular logic of the teabagging GOP.
We believe in what you're doing, Dina. Don't back down!
Nope, still baseless allegations from LarryVegas!
LOL, Larry still thinks a freshman Congresswoman can protect Rangel. Is she on the House ethics committee? Nope. Is Larry barking up the wrong tree? Of course.
Is Larry making baseless allegations in the form of Glenn Beck "questions?" Yup.
I'll add that on to my fact check.
Larry said we were "already in debt for one billion dollars"
FACT CHECK: Nope, we haven't borrowed anywhere near a billion.
Larry said the extension of unemployment insurance was an "unfunded mandate."
FACT CHECK: Unfunded mandate? Nope, it was paid for by ARRA and the Feds.
"Extends Unemployment Benefits for 40,000 Jobless Nevadans: The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act provides up to 33 weeks of federally funded unemployment. Qualified Nevada workers will see their checks continue through December 2009. In addition, the legislation will temporarily provide 100% federal funding for the permanent-law Extended Benefits (EB) Program, which provides up to another 20 weeks of additional extended benefits in Nevada and other high unemployment states. "
"The majority of unemployment provisions included in The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act do not require any funding on the part of Nevada. However, Nevada can qualify for millions in additional funding by modernizing the State's unemployment system. Updating the system will increase fairness, especially for women in the workforce, and expand eligibility to include part-time employees."
Larry fails a fact check, yet again!
Larry, how is a program paid for by the Feds an unfunded mandate? Didn't you read the darn article? LOL!
I thought I had a nice nickname for Dino Ti..... I think the Sun is PREJEDICE !!! Thank you Senior Reid for providing FREEE health car for me, my family and my friends.
Kevin Sandoval aka ksand99 posts quotes and doesn't name the source so the quote can be verified.
Typical elitist Liberal dishonestly...
Was Charlie Rangel buying Dina Titus support by contributed large amounts of money to her over the past couple of years?
Did Charlie know things were going to come crashing down on him and he was buying protection one vote at a time.
Why would any elected official other than a Democrat take money from another elected official???
"FACT CHECK: Nope, we haven't borrowed anywhere near a billion."
True in a literal sense but false in more a practical sense.
The real truth:
"Nevada, with a 13 percent unemployment rate, is on track to borrow $1 billion from the federal government to meet jobless claims because its unemployment insurance trust fund has gone broke."
http://news.lp.findlaw.com/ap_stories/ot...
Sue Lowden is already wealthy and will serve as Senator without the worry of bribes, paybacks and backroom deals.
Too bad we can't say that about Harry Reid. He made his fortune while he was representing taxpayers.
Nope, still baseless allegations from LarryVegas!
LOL, Larry still thinks a freshman Congresswoman can protect Rangel. Is she on the House ethics committee? Nope. Is Larry barking up the wrong tree? Of course.
Is Larry making baseless allegations in the form of Glenn Beck "questions?" Yup.
I'll add that on to my fact check.
Larry said we were "already in debt for one billion dollars"
FACT CHECK: Nope, we haven't borrowed anywhere near a billion.
Larry said the extension of unemployment insurance was an "unfunded mandate."
FACT CHECK: Unfunded mandate? Nope, it was paid for by ARRA and the Feds.
"Extends Unemployment Benefits for 40,000 Jobless Nevadans: The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act provides up to 33 weeks of federally funded unemployment. Qualified Nevada workers will see their checks continue through December 2009. In addition, the legislation will temporarily provide 100% federal funding for the permanent-law Extended Benefits (EB) Program, which provides up to another 20 weeks of additional extended benefits in Nevada and other high unemployment states. "
"The majority of unemployment provisions included in The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act do not require any funding on the part of Nevada. However, Nevada can qualify for millions in additional funding by modernizing the State's unemployment system. Updating the system will increase fairness, especially for women in the workforce, and expand eligibility to include part-time employees."
Larry fails a fact check, yet again!
Larry, how is a program paid for by the Feds an unfunded mandate? Didn't you read the darn article? LOL!
Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock, Larry asserted that the state government had already borrowed 1 billion dollars from the federal government to cover the expansion of unemployment benefits.
This is false on many levels.
The state government HAS NOT BORROWED 1 BILLION DOLLARS from the federal government. To say we are "in debt" assumes the money has been requested and granted. It has not been requested or granted.
Further, Larry asserts this money was borrowed because of a mythical unfunded mandate. This, also, is not true. The state's unemployment trust fund went broke, and the extension of unemployment benefits (what he calls the unfunded mandate) is funded by federal funds. No borrowing was done to pay for the extension.
A basic fact check proves him wrong, and you don't need to dig his hole deeper. "True in a literal sense but false in more a practical sense?" What you said doesn't make sense... it's nonsense.
It is either true or false. Has the state of Nevada borrowed 1 billion dollars to pay for unemployment? No.
It MIGHT, down the line, but to assert we ALREADY HAVE, as Larry did and as you attempt to rationalize, is not true.
Elitist Kevin Sandoval aka ksand99 continues to post quotes without bothering to list his sources. Typical dirty dealing...
These elitists try to deflect and change the discussion to something irrelevant when the discussion is embarrassing to them.
Liberals have moved the once proud Democrat Party so far to the left, that I can't even belong to it anymore.
Democrats need to take back their party...
Larry, a quick google search reveals his sources.
You have failed to address the substance of the argument, of course. You continue to distract from the facts.
The facts show that you were completely wrong on several different parts of your argument.
Nevada has yet to borrow a billion dollars, contrary to your argument.
The expansion of unemployment benefits was not an unfunded mandate. According to the Congressional Research Service:
"The act extends the temporary EUC08 program through December 26, 2009 (with grandfathering), to be financed by federal general revenues. It provides for 100% federal financing of the EB program to end before January 1, 2010 (with grandfathering), to be financed by the federal government through the Unemployment Trust Fund."
Larry wants to derail the discussion from his obviously false lies and misinformation. No matter how many times he cuts and pastes his bogus and factually incorrect rhetoric, it won't make him any more correct.
You lied, Larry, and got caught. You should apologize.
In a literal sense, the extenstion of unemployment benefits is a unfunded mandate.
It is funded by deficit spending which means the US will sell bonds and pay interest forever on those bonds and either now or eventually one day the USA will print cash out of thin air to cover the bonds and the forever interest on those bonds. That results in inflation.
So at this point in time it is not funded.
And will be a mandate on the backs of our children and their children and their children and so on and so on and so on until the destruction of the USA.
"Today is a big day in America. Only 36,000 people lost their jobs today, which is really good,"
WRONG. Unfunded mandates are those which are demanded but not funded by the federal government. Clearly, the unemployment extension is funded by the federal government.
Lying republicans are twisting the truth in their desperate attempt to save face. I love it! They're on the run!
Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock, Larry asserted that the state government had already borrowed 1 billion dollars from the federal government to cover the expansion of unemployment benefits.
This is false on many levels.
The state government HAS NOT BORROWED 1 BILLION DOLLARS from the federal government. To say we are "in debt" assumes the money has been requested and granted. It has not been requested or granted.
Further, Larry asserts this money was borrowed because of a mythical unfunded mandate. This, also, is not true. The state's unemployment trust fund went broke, and the extension of unemployment benefits (what he calls the unfunded mandate) is funded by federal funds. No borrowing was done to pay for the extension.
A basic fact check proves him wrong, and you don't need to dig his hole deeper. "True in a literal sense but false in more a practical sense?" What you said doesn't make sense... it's nonsense.
It is either true or false. Has the state of Nevada borrowed 1 billion dollars to pay for unemployment? No.
It MIGHT, down the line, but to assert we ALREADY HAVE, as Larry did and as you attempt to rationalize, is not true.
Kevin Sandoval aka ksand49 resembles an "educated idiot." This is a phrase used to describe the arrogant liberal intellectuals and elitists unacquainted with real life who foist their insane ideas on the "unenlightened" rest of us.
Nope, still baseless allegations from LarryVegas!
LOL, Larry still thinks a freshman Congresswoman can protect Rangel. Is she on the House ethics committee? Nope. Is Larry barking up the wrong tree? Of course.
Is Larry making baseless allegations in the form of Glenn Beck "questions?" Yup.
I'll add that on to my fact check.
Larry said we were "already in debt for one billion dollars"
FACT CHECK: Nope, we haven't borrowed anywhere near a billion.
Larry said the extension of unemployment insurance was an "unfunded mandate."
FACT CHECK: Unfunded mandate? Nope, it was paid for by ARRA and the Feds.
"Extends Unemployment Benefits for 40,000 Jobless Nevadans: The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act provides up to 33 weeks of federally funded unemployment. Qualified Nevada workers will see their checks continue through December 2009. In addition, the legislation will temporarily provide 100% federal funding for the permanent-law Extended Benefits (EB) Program, which provides up to another 20 weeks of additional extended benefits in Nevada and other high unemployment states. "
"The majority of unemployment provisions included in The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act do not require any funding on the part of Nevada. However, Nevada can qualify for millions in additional funding by modernizing the State's unemployment system. Updating the system will increase fairness, especially for women in the workforce, and expand eligibility to include part-time employees."
Larry fails a fact check, yet again!
Larry, how is a program paid for by the Feds an unfunded mandate? Didn't you read the darn article? LOL!
"Clearly, the unemployment extension is funded by the federal government."
Why are you lying?
You lie, lie, lie.....
The federal government is not funding this unemployment.
They are borrowing or printing money out of then air to pay for this.
The Bunning thing proved all that.
Why lie about that?
You lie.
Liar.....
Liar....lair...pants on fire....
Lowden increases her lead over Reid...
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely voters in the state finds Sue Lowden, ex-chairman of the Nevada Republican Party, with a 51% to 38% lead on Reid.
Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock doesn't want to admit he doesn't know what "unfunded mandate" means. An unfunded mandate is a directive from the federal government that is not accompanied by funding.
The extension of unemployment was accompanied by funding. The source of that funding has nothing to do with what an "unfunded mandate from the federal government" means.
Furthermore, Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock can't prove that the federal unemployment funds themselves were borrowed. One can reasonably argue that the unemployment funds were paid through revenues and other government expenditures were deficit spending.
Likewise, most homeowners borrow several times their yearly income. Does Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock believe that all of their spending during their mortgage is deficit spending and thus an unfunded mandate? Simple logic says no.
Sorry, Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock, your argument holds no water nor weight.
Scary Sue is Nevada's Leona Helmsley.
She took a $200,000 bonus after firing 100+ workers from her casino.
That sounds like something all those corrupt Wall Street bankers would do!
Larry said we were "already in debt for one billion dollars"
FACT CHECK: Nope, we haven't borrowed anywhere near a billion.
Larry said the extension of unemployment insurance was an "unfunded mandate."
FACT CHECK: Unfunded mandate? Nope, it was paid for by ARRA and the Feds.
"Extends Unemployment Benefits for 40,000 Jobless Nevadans: The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act provides up to 33 weeks of federally funded unemployment. Qualified Nevada workers will see their checks continue through December 2009. In addition, the legislation will temporarily provide 100% federal funding for the permanent-law Extended Benefits (EB) Program, which provides up to another 20 weeks of additional extended benefits in Nevada and other high unemployment states. "
"The majority of unemployment provisions included in The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act do not require any funding on the part of Nevada. However, Nevada can qualify for millions in additional funding by modernizing the State's unemployment system. Updating the system will increase fairness, especially for women in the workforce, and expand eligibility to include part-time employees."
Larry fails a fact check, yet again!
Larry, how is a program paid for by the Feds an unfunded mandate? Didn't you read the darn article? LOL!
The Federal government is funding zero dollars for unemployment.
They are charging it to our children's credit card.
Lie....lie....lie.......
Speak the truth...you don't have to lie.
Only you could deny reality, Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock.
Nevadans receive millions of dollars in federally-funded unemployment benefits every week.
You could argue that the unemployment benefits are deficit spending, but deficit spending does not mean unfunded.
You seem really confused on the basics. It seems facts and reality can't penetrate your ignorance.
What I especially like is that you shot your own argument in the foot by bringing up Bunning.
Bunning's specific complaint about the unemployment extension was that it was deficit spending -- NOT that it was an unfunded mandate. The two are separate ideas.
Bunning ended his blockade when Reid agreed to follow paygo rules, which meant he funded the unemployment extension utilizing NON-DEFICIT SPENDING.
That kills your "deficit spending = unfunded mandate" nonsense.
Thanks!
Kevin Sandoval aka Ksand666 resorts to name calling and demonizing.
But, no matter how he spins it, Sue Lowden increased her lead over Harry Reid...
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely voters in the state finds Sue Lowden, ex-chairman of the Nevada Republican Party, with a 51% to 38% lead on Harry Reid.
Maybe Liberals should start listening to the people.
"Nevadans receive millions of dollars in federally-funded unemployment benefits every week. "
It is more like Nevadans receive millions of dollars that have been charged to their childrens' credit cards for unemployment benefits every week.
The Senate election is as good as over. Everyone knows Reid will never get re-elected. He simply did not do his job, and now its to late. Nevada is going to put in a total dim wit in the Senate, Sue Lowdown, to go along with Ensign. My guess, you think things are bad now, wait to these two become our representatives. Hopefully when Ensign is indited, by then we can at least replace him with a Senator with a brain and substance behind him, Republican or Democrat
Larry has thrown his support behind Sue Lowden, Nevada's Leona Helmsley.
She took a $200,000 bonus after firing 100+ workers from her casino.
That sounds like something all those corrupt Wall Street bankers would do!
Larry said we were "already in debt for one billion dollars"
FACT CHECK: Nope, we haven't borrowed anywhere near a billion.
Larry said the extension of unemployment insurance was an "unfunded mandate."
FACT CHECK: Unfunded mandate? Nope, it was paid for by ARRA and the Feds.
"Extends Unemployment Benefits for 40,000 Jobless Nevadans: The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act provides up to 33 weeks of federally funded unemployment. Qualified Nevada workers will see their checks continue through December 2009. In addition, the legislation will temporarily provide 100% federal funding for the permanent-law Extended Benefits (EB) Program, which provides up to another 20 weeks of additional extended benefits in Nevada and other high unemployment states. "
"The majority of unemployment provisions included in The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act do not require any funding on the part of Nevada. However, Nevada can qualify for millions in additional funding by modernizing the State's unemployment system. Updating the system will increase fairness, especially for women in the workforce, and expand eligibility to include part-time employees."
Larry fails a fact check, yet again!
Larry, how is a program paid for by the Feds an unfunded mandate? Didn't you read the darn article? LOL!
I'm glad Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock has realized that deficit spending does not equal an unfunded mandate. Even he had to throw in the towel on his bogus misrepresentations!
The lying fascist republicans never stop trying to distort and destroy facts and logic.
I guess Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock supported the "unfunded mandate" of Bush's war on terror, then?
The unemployment benefits are fully funded by the future hard work of our children their children and their children and so on and so on.
We should have a big party and say "Thank You" to the children for all the hard work.
This scam will all come crashing down on some generation.
I hope they give thanks for the previous generations for piling on the crap.