Report: 2011 rebound expected, but full recovery years away
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A new UNLV report shows Las Vegas isn’t expected to fully recover from the economic downturn for several years.
Published Tuesday, June 15, 2010 | 11:14 a.m.
Updated Tuesday, June 15, 2010 | 2:35 p.m.
Mary Riddel on the economy
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Southern Nevada’s economy will continue to struggle for the remainder of 2010, won’t begin a rebound until the first quarter of 2011 and won’t fully recover for several years, according to a report released Tuesday by UNLV economists.
The turnaround in 2011, however, will be tepid at best, according to the Center for Business and Economic Research, which released its mid-year forecast. There is even a risk of a nationwide double-dip recession because recent employment and retail sales reports show the existing U.S. recovery is losing traction, said Mary Riddel, the interim director of the Center for Business and Economic Research.
UNLV economists forecast job losses will continue to mount the rest of the year, personal incomes will decline and gaming revenue will remain weak.
In Nevada, taxable sales dropped 20 percent during May and overall this year have dropped 8.1 percent compared to the same time last year, Riddel said.
“Overall, the Las Vegas economy continues to show mixed signals, which leads us to conclude that a recovery is not yet under way,” Riddel said. “On the other hand, all signs point toward nearing a bottom in 2010 and beginning recovery in 2011. ... The dramatic drop in gaming revenue and taxable sales means that new growth will begin from a very low level. It will likely be years before we see the same level of economic activity in Nevada as we enjoyed in 2007.”
More than gaming has to recover for the Las Vegas economy to rebound, Riddel added. Residential and commercial construction needs to bounce back and both sectors show no signs of doing that, she said.
Although applications for residential and commercial construction permits are up, they are 15 percent of what they were during the boom between 2003 and 2006, she said.
The stoppage of such major Strip projects as the Echelon, Fontainebleau, St. Regis Condo Tower and Wyndham Desert Blue led to lost construction activity of $1 billion in 2008 and $2 billion in 2009 and that still reverberates in the economy, Riddel said.
Since 2004, the region has lost about 120,000 jobs, and during the past year has lost 24,000 construction jobs, the report said.
The number of home construction permits will remain flat in 2010 and even fall slightly, Riddel said. The permits should increase 1.5 percent in 2011, she said.
“A definitive road to economic recovery in Southern Nevada cannot take place unless new jobs are created to offset the current continued bleeding of jobs in the construction sector,” Riddel said.
Given sentiments in the gaming industry, Riddel said she doesn’t expect any casinos to be built on the Strip until 2015 at the earliest and that could be further extended if more casino bankruptcies emerge.
In the forecast for a 2011 rebound, Southern Nevada faces some risks not only if the national economy slows but the international economy slows as well, Riddel said. If the financial crisis in Greece spreads and the value of the euro falls and causes U.S. exports to Europe to decline, that could impact tourism to Las Vegas, Riddel said.
In December, while some observers had touted CityCenter as a panacea for the economy, UNLV economists predicted the Southern Nevada economy would remain weak in 2010 and that the opening of CityCenter would cannibalize other gaming properties and cause discounting of rooms.
Riddel pointed to gaming companies’ lower profits in the first quarter, including how the Stratosphere owners blamed excess rooms on the Strip for its $2.7 million in losses.
“The addition of the 6,000-room CityCenter complex in December has meant an even more competitive environment for the hotel gaming industry,” the report said. “Hotel occupancy rates continue to fall even as hotels offer deep discounts on midweek room rates. ... In the near term, the tourism sector is likely to continue to struggle.”
UNLV economists forecast moderate growth in gaming revenue and visitor volume in 2010. Their forecast predicts gross gaming revenue will rise 1 percent for 2010 as a whole and visitor volume will increase 2.5 percent.
Occupancy rates should remain below historical averages for the remainder of 2010, but by the end of 2011, the low room rates should help boost visitor volume and bring occupancy rates closer to historical averages, Riddel said.
For 2011, UNLV economists project gross gaming revenue will rise 1.2 percent and visitor volume will rise 2 percent.
The report said Southern Nevada should expect continued job losses through the end of 2010 because the construction industry and retail sector continue to struggle because of falling visitor spending and cancellation of planned hotel projects. It puts the decline at 0.5 to 1 percent through the end of the year and overall, employment dropping 5 percent in 2010. Total personal income as a result will fall 1.5 percent in 2010, the economists predicted.
The unemployment rate may even rise in 2011 at first because more people who are out of the labor market will re-enter it, the report said. But as 2011 progresses, the rate will fall slowly as jobs are created in the hotel and gaming sector, retail industry and health sector. The rise in employment, however, is projected at 0.5 percent in 2011.
Economists said the planned construction of a wind-turbine plant in Southern Nevada will create 1,000 jobs and much-needed diversification in the local economy. Questions still remain about what can be done to boost economic growth, Riddel said. “The answer to those questions hinges on the will of the state and political leaders to create new avenues for economic diversification,” she said.
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Why can't any of these so-called experts simply admit that they don't know what's coming? These predictions are useless as tits on a bull and it appears that the more cynical the opinion, the more legitimacy it is given. Nonsense. Things are already much better than they were last year. Don't try and talk it down!
Reading tea leaves
By CommentWatch, these comments are more realistic than most predictions. Before any improvement can take hold, jobs need to be created and there hasn't been a whole lotta hiring as of late. No jobs, no hiring, no money for expenditures and no improvement in the economy.
CommentWatch,
Calling Riddel a "so-called expert" is pretty insane. I dare you to go sit in on one of her graduate classes and then tell me that she has no idea what she is talking about and that this is all guess work. Until you have been in that situation, don't down play the legitimacy of it.
Things are not better than last year. Many people are already off of unemployment benefits. Alot of people have left the state. These small percentages they speak of are meaningless in the overall scheme of things. Being realistic Las Vegas will not recover for another 10 years. And when it does it won't be anything close to what it was. The construction industry is dead. Large corporations will buy up the smaller ones first. They will need positive cash flow to operate and thats many years away. What we need are jobs.
Lastly all of this information was plain to see in 08/09 but they are still way behind.
What we need is continued DOWNSIZING of the population, and the Resorts on the strip need to be diversified in ownership to creat some healthy competition which will attract tourists seeking the good old Vegas value vacation with loose slots, generous comps, cheap rooms and giveaway food and drinks. Until the corporate fools wake up to this formula it's depression time baby!
i really feel the sun needs to check the stories and people who either write them of submit them. this is utter rubbish, interest rates are due to go up very soon this will increase mortgage costs, the government cannot pump any more free money into a zombie economy, it will be at least 2015 before you see any start of a recovery
@environprotector: you are right. these corporations need to look into the past to revitalize the future. to much greed and low value for the dollar.
@markp: i agree with the 2015 date. but this will only be the beginning.
2015 is laughable - the recovery will begin much sooner than that - unless you are looking to return to 2003-06 levels ... then I would suggest you move to another planet. :)
Still gotta love Vegas...
The sun, the mountains, the action..there is no substitute
tomD; dont forget the heat. (yeah, i know its DRY heat, like a hair dryer on full blast)
@gats: 2015 laughable really. Do you think that employment will rebound before then? It took Reagnomics 15 years to unfold and this situation is much worse. 2012 will be the start and it will take 2-3 years to untangle the mess the current administration has put us in. Construction will go nowhere. Even the so called stimulus did zero to help out. They can't keep printing money now can they. Greece is right around the corner for us until things change. Maybe you should take a course in economics or better yet try to own a business and em[ploy some folks then make your comment about 2015. Another planet thats funny.
2015 is not laughable; I've seen estimations that suggestion southern Nevada won't see any real increase in home values until 2020. Take into account rising minimum wages, recent tax hikes in Nevada (and potential new corporate taxes that some have secretly wanted), new Federal entitlement programs, the insolvency of Medicare, the struggles of Social Security, and continued Federal borrowing and perhaps a rapid increase in inflation and we've got a recipe for real trouble.
I also don't think this is something our government can spend its way out of. Spending has not worked. Nevada has already tried to sustain pre recession levels of government spending despite the revenue loss and as a result we have the second highest unemployment in the nation and some very large declines in personal income.
Spending more on K-12 and higher education will not help either. Our pre recession level increases for both have been staggering and the results have flat lined (except for the massive 20 + point decline in high school graduation rates over the last 10 years). We can, however, use resources more effectively like banning social promotion, promoting school choice with vouchers and tax credits, and encouraging more charter and empowerment schools (autonomous schools).
Love the heat. Summer is hot in Vegas but I'll take it everyday over an 80+ humid as hell day in South Florida or a 15 degree, sleet and snow New York winter.
Visited Death Valley last summer....119. I enjoy it.
I contracted a horrible disease in your city. I think I got it from a toilet seat, I for one will not return until the cleaning people do a better job, thank God for penicillin.
These reports are as good as a gypsy on Friday night. The bottom line is jobs have to recover first and not just in Vegas; jobs have to recover all over the country to get peoples confidence back so they want to come to vegas on a weekend junket. Vegas growth is dependent on discretionary income of the country and right now there ain't no discretionary income or jobs. No amount of prediction is going to change reality and right now reality sucks. Yes it's a little better than a year agobut by no means has the bleeding stopped.
The fact is they are not talking about GROWTH..they are speaking of leveling off. Yes, in fact it will be years for any "major" growth while some areas might be seeing a slight change for the better. The severe housing issue topped with loss of jobs will take some time.The banks can't absorb the huge amount of mortgages on short sales. So many issues to deal with.Anyone who says Las Vegas will be out of this in a few years is NUTS....Ya gotta take baby steps with this mess.
Wow, an actually good comment thread for a change at the Sun. No name-calling despite difference of opinion. I'm proud of y'all!
My two cents, these economic forecasts should be taken with major grains of salt. No one, I don't care how great the UNLV professor is, can predict this stuff. We can make an educated guess with forecasts et al. But really no one really knows. If it was that simple, we'd know when to turn off the economy when too hot, rev it up when too cold.
Also, often times the jobs numbers are the last to turnaround. In our economy, the spending must take place first, then jobs. Without spending and credit, jobs numbers stay flat. We're a consumer economy.
Chuck, please explain to us how Reaganomics took 15 years to unfold. Does that mean that, like Reagan, the consequences of tax cuts while piling up huge deficits by Bush will felt for another 15 years? Is that what you mean?
@okra: When Reagan took office he first had to fix the mess that Carter left this country in. Tax cuts were a huge part of it and allowed businesses to invest and hire more employees. These tactics were used during Bush's presidency and when Clinton assumed control he inherited a balanced budget with low single digit unemployment. His second term with botched choices like NAFTA is when the deficits began to rise . Bush junior did have deficits but if you try to say that Obamas are better than his you obviously haven't been staying up on recent developments.
in 2008 they were saying vegas was "recession proof".
in 2009 they were saying things would be better in 2010.
vegas as we knew it from 2000 - 2006 is over.
Well...as Sen Harry Reid said after the beginning of this crisis....'nobody knows what to do'....and he wasn't just a kidden. At least during the cold war we could 'duck and cover'.
tomD; good for you , keep the heat. i visit only between october and april, the latest. i hope it stays hot for you and vegas until the end of september.
making predictions are for fools. are we getting worse or holding our own? true story, my nephew left detroit to find a job elsewhere; where did he go? vegas,baby! he went from the frying pan into the fire!! if i talk to him i'll tell him to stay out of real estate. he'll starve!!
I think it will take longer than 2011. Tourism is Las Vegas and Nevada number one resource for revenue. Many people in the nation were living a false dream of luxury, refinancing their homes to obtain spend able cash. People will still visit Las Vegas and Nevada but they won't splurge like in the past. One way to get the economy going is to sell Las Vegas as a retirement destination. Retirees will be substain growth for the next 10 years, they will have expendable cash. In order for Las Vegas and Nevada to recover we need people with expendable cash.
To use an analogy, Vegas was a motor that was set up to operate on 240 volts and now the voltage has dropped to 120 volts. There is a serious problem and I am not sure that the powers that be have the guts to do what is necessary to restructure. As with many other situations in this country they may have no choice when the motor finally stops.
To the above poster who said discretionary spending is the key
You are 100% correct,and watching the news the other night,seeing the passengers that were part of the spirit airlines strike confirms that fact
Those tourists admitted that they needed to get home immediately,because they literally had no money left at the end of the vacation
I dont know about anyone else,BUT that is a sad statement if you spend your last dollar on the 5th day of your vegas junket,only to go home,work another 3-6 months so you can blow your whole stack here in 5 days
REALLY PATHETIC if you ask me
No wonder this economy is so F*****
And for what,to impress people you will never ever see again
get a life
peace out
I was fortunate to retire from the City of Chicago and receive a pension. My heart goes out to the people of Nevada that are out of work and having a hard time making mortgage payments. I own a house in Henderson and I love Las Vegas and the beauty of the mountains. I just hope Las Vegas can recover and I know even though I have a pension I have two sons in college and my wife after working for JP Morgan Chase for 35 years lost her job last year along with 100 of her fellow workers. The experts can say whatever they want, but times are tough and I hope Las Vegas bounces back and people get back to work, because it horrible when you don't know when your next meal will be or you are sitting there trying to figure out how to pay a bill. Las Vegas is still a great place and hopefully things get better.