LETTER TO THE EDITOR:
An easier way to curb immigration
Saturday, June 5, 2010 | 2:03 a.m.
There’s been a lot of controversy over illegal immigration and the recent changes in Arizona’s laws. I would like to put forth some ideas.
We could organize a federal operation to round up and deport the 12 million or so illegal immigrants in the country. But the problem has been allowed to grow too large by four administrations for something like this to work.
Rather than chase millions of illegal aliens, we should concentrate on the thousands of companies and people who hire them. E-Verify is an Internet-based system that allows an employer to determine a potential employee’s eligibility to work in the United States.
For most employers, E-Verify is voluntary and limited to determining the employment eligibility of new hires. Currently only federal government contractors and subcontractors are required to use E-Verify (per an executive order signed by President Barack Obama last year).
I would propose making all employers use E-Verify immediately for new hires and, within a year, verify the employment eligibility of all their current employees. Anyone hiring an illegal immigrant without using E-Verify would be fined triple the wages paid to the employee.
Most illegal immigrants are here because of employment opportunities. When you remove that possibility, they will stop coming and many may return to their native countries.
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We need a multi pronged approach to the clean up.
E verify is part of it for sure. But first we need an general agreement that they need to go.
Just a few thought on this,for those who think it un American to deport illegal immigrants.
Since when did it become un American to erect a border barrier to prevent a flood of millions of illegal immigrants from overwhelming the citizens of America? Since when did it become un American to protect American citizens who are being over run by masses of illegal immigrants who are trampling on their person and property? Since when did it become un American to insist that the laws of the land be upheld and that illegal immigrants be promptly identified and deported? Since when did it become un American to block the invasion of radical Islamic terrorists from Somolia who are entering America through Mexico? It's plain and simple: IT IS NOT UN AMERICAN!
When will the separate states and the federal government combine resources
to eradicate the blight of illegal immigration and restore order and civility? When will the People fight back against the alarming chaos which is now spreading across this land, and rescue the nation from the grip of insanity?
When will "sanctuary cities" be prosecuted along with their local officials ? When will all cities become "rule of law cities" which legislate and enforce legal conduct in regard to immigration?
The significant majority of this nation's citizens are fed up with the failed and destructive policies of governmental bodies across this land--it is time to stand up and reclaim America for ourselves and for our posterity!
uddeboda...very poor analogy. Hitler and Goebbels never supported any illegals on dialysis. He also did not bankrupt a whole state with childbirth costs for 8 million pregnant illegals. The illegal aliens AND the whole state of Mexico are systematically dragging the United States of America into the stone age. We don't require the illegals to wear the Hispanic star either. Nice try udder. I appreciate your contribution. I really do.
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One United States Continent
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The time is way past due to bring Mexico and Canada, and maybe a few others, into the fold of the United States and have one huge, great country. A plan could easily be formulated that would enable this to happen peacefully and quickly. Both these nations would be overly delighted to be part of our country and enjoy all the advantages that come along with that priviedge
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There would no further need to expend trillions on illegal immigration.
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One huge enjoyment is not having that Lou Dobbs Right Wing Nut Case spewing out his hate all day on TV day after day on illegal immigration - enjoy that peace with a lovely rum and tonic ... its just great that he's gone
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Maybe FoxPropaganda News will close up ... man, we could really have a party if that were to happen
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Thanks For Reading My Post
Uddeboda,
And yet more Swedes choose to leave Sweden for the United States than Americans choose to move to Sweden. I already crunched those numbers for you once. Do your own homework this time if you still doubt me.
Just how screwed up IS your country???
Writing more new immigration laws wouldn't be a bad idea, to make it manditory for employers to use e-verify and send the results back to the feds with an employees social security and tax information would even be better. We could have thousands of immigration laws on the books, but they wouldn't be worth a penny if they weren't enforced.
Our federal government has got to stop allowing illegal immigration to take place, plain and simple.
fosimmons wrote:
"There would (be) no further need to expend trillions on illegal immigration." (I took the liberty of correcting your typo).
Trillions??? Holy Crap! Those criminals invading our country are causing more destruction than I thought! Thanks for the heads up, fo.
Send the criminals back to Mexico!
uddeboda,
All that and Swedes STILL want to move to the United States. Maybe it's you.
udde, this migration from Sweden to the U.S., is this legal or illegal?
Wha-a-at nobody wants our crappy products? Udde a foreigner as smart as you should realize the trade defecit has nothing to do with the citizens, it has everything to do with our government making it easier for business to outsource our manufacturing base. So now other countries are selling our crappy products. If Sweden is so good what are you doing over here where it is so bad? I guess crappy people like crappy countries.
It is a sensible letter.
A hidden issue about having a porous border is the nagging feeling that radicals are infiltrating your country along with the people just looking for a better life.
Talk is cheap. Bickering and finger-pointing accomplishes nothing. The problem and solution lies in Washington. This negative energy needs to be directed at our so-called leaders and shakers in Congress. Tell them to wake-up, shape-up or ship out. We, the people, hold the power to vote them out of office.
hey; lets send them all to canada, our neighbor to the north. instead of landscaping and grass trimming, teach them the fine art of shoveling snow, lots and lots of snow. on their down time they can ice sculpt for the french restaurants in quebec and vancouver; voila, amigo!
Rather than have one big continental nation, just rearrange the geography so that all the people from Mexico would enter Canada first to enjoy the magnificent benefits of a socialized
nation. All Canada would have to do is add a third language to their french and english labels, and the immigrants could swarm the Canadian welfare state. While they are at it have Canada pay for its own national security.
The US is being sucked to death by its "neighbors" to the north and south.
The reason that illegal immigrants have a difficult time entering Canada is twofold. Firstly, we have a system which discourages working "under the table", and secondly, our only neighbour is America which has a similar economy. Ensuring that employers do not hire illegals is a key to beating illegal immigration.
Despite some of the teasing comments about Canada and its slightly more socialistic government, we would welcome hard-working Mexican immigrants and would probably try to accommodate them by encouraging Spanish as another language.
If the illegal immigrants were law-abiding and self supporting, no one would have a problem. Sounds like a plan to me, we have to start somewhere. Remember, we are talking about the people who are here illegally, who ignore the law and jump ahead of their brothers and sisters who followed the rules.
Canada--while you try to be thoughtful and reasonable in your comments regarding illegal immigration, you are not in a position to be realistic about the nature and extent of the illegal immigration in this nation---the situation is out of control. The fact that you would welcome hard working people from the southern border totally fails to understand the nature of the out of control influx of illegal immigrants that we are experiencing. No, you would not respond well to the problem, first you do not have the resources in Canada--manpower or financial to adequately deal with this problem. Canada would be completely swamped and over run by these illegals. By reason of geography and divine providence, Canada does not have to deal with either its national security ( which is handled by the US) or the uncontrolled abuse of its borders to the south or north. I have spent some time in Canada, and very much like your people, but for the reasons mentioned you are insulated from many of life's more difficult ordeals. By the way, Canada has been lax in allowing Islamic population into your country, and that is bound to backfire, just as it will in the US. Fundamental Islamists have no tolerance for diversity, and they will ultimately impact your traditional culture very unfavorably--just give them time.
A couple of points; Hitler did use massive amounts of military resources, police resources, rail lines, as well as massive amounts of money to round up and murder Europeans that he didn't like for both religious and political reasons. The numbers of people that he had working on this was greater than the entire standing US military today. He wasn't able to come close to accomplishing his goals. My entire family including parents and grandparents lived in both Berlin and Essen the time. Plus for the most part the European Society of the 1930s wasn't well armed. On the other hand I believe there is something in the neighborhood of several hundred million guns floating around the United States. If you combined millions of police and military personnel with the goal of rounding 12 million people up you would probably have more shootouts and what's going on in Iraq and Afghanistan.
People always talk about what illegal aliens cost and never what they produce. I lived in California for over 40 years. You have a hard time finding someone picking fruits and vegetables, washing dishes, gardening, doing all types of construction and manual labor that even speaks English. I live up in the Northwest, Tule Springs. Home construction is starting to pick up again. I defy anyone to find an American in other than a management position working on any of the homesites up here. I'm looking to buy a home for my son and visited a couple of sites under construction. Just like California I couldn't find one guy at the construction sites that spoke any English.
When the rule of law breaks down, this Republic is in dire danger. We must not throw out the baby with the bath water. Illegal immigrants are the target, not those who gain entrance legally through the correct procedures. The situation is out of control. Let migrant workers pick all the veggies we can produce. Immigrants can work on all the construction sites that exist. They just need to be legal,that's all.
The problem is, is that "leaders" like Harry Reid are no fans of E-verify. While they talk out of both sides of their mouths on immigration they work to undermine programs like E-verify.
http://conservativeoasis.com/reid-is-not...
Our immigration law enforcers should be given every power and power tool available to them to get rid of all the Illegal Mexicans in Arizona, and then start on the rest of the Illegal immigrants elsewhere. Do it systematically, as in the American WW2 internment camps. That worked out beautifully.
E-Verify huh? What about the immediate spike in stolen identities that would result?
I say it's all the free "stuff" that brings them here.
You say employment opportunities bring them here.
Employment opportunities like selling tacos out of a push-cart on the sidewalk or out of their car trunk in a parking lot? Employment opportunities like house painting, roofing, landscaping and stucco work out of the uninsured pick-up truck (ie self-employed office)?
I read an open letter to DC today and it about broke my heart...
http://willnevergiveup.wordpress.com/201...
An easier way to curb immigration? Most people are not all that concerned about "legal immigration"? That's what made America. It's the illegals, the criminals, that must go. It's the rule of law that makes America a place where everyone in the world wants to come....
An easier way to curb "illegal" immigration: shoot to kill orders at the border.... Works everytime. Want to live, don't cross our border.
The chaos and madness of illegal immigration won't be taken seriously by the US government and immigration laws enforced, until the US is once again attacked by foreign extremest where it is determined they were able to access their target(s)by circumventing the US border. Then there will be the same knee jerk reaction as you are now seeing with the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
Why is our government always reactive rather than proactive? We have an opportunity to prevent a catastrophe, but choose to ignore it until it happens. It would seem to me you'd want to dig your well before you're thirsty not after.
E-Verify for jobs is a great start but it needs to be expanded to include medical facilities. And money transfer companies. A 25% tax or proof that taxes have been paid on all monies leaving this country should also be required.
Proof of Identity is currently required if you are visiting this country legally. Enforce it by requiring all law enforcement officers, medical facilities and money wiring companies, to check everyone's proof of identity and that they are in this country legally.
Almost every illegal immigrate would leave this country voluntarily if they could not get a job, medical treatment or wire money back to their relatives without paying taxes.
Yea yea yea,, E Verify would work great if these immigrants didnt get paid under the table as most do... It should be mandatory that all employers pay for as in what they produce... Say a house is built by a crew of five in three days and in one day by another... He should be able to show id and ss numbers that are legal for at least ten people... If not then they dont get paid for building that house..Then it goes up from there if you cant show paperwork for your employees to build,, then you cant get a loan to pay for materials,, and so on..This may not be a good idea but E verify is not either if you get paid under the table..
I especially like the idea of shooting people who try to cross the border. Force is so productive and so easy, why consider any other approach?