Tuesday, July 13, 2010 | 2:01 a.m.
Republican opposition in Congress has stalled legislation that would extend much-needed benefits to unemployed workers. While Republican leaders complain about the cost of extended benefits, it is not merely a budgetary issue. The bill’s critics also question the value of unemployment payments, and some have been as brazen as to call the benefit an “entitlement.”
As we have noted before, some conservatives stunningly argue that benefits keep people from looking for work. As Anjeanette Damon reported in Sunday’s Las Vegas Sun, several of the bill’s critics have pointed to some studies that say workers with benefits take longer to find a job and are typically more productive in their job searches as their benefits run out. Some critics even contend that unemployment benefits do little to help spur the economy.
However, before jumping to conclusions, like Republican Senate nominee Sharron Angle’s ridiculous belief that American workers are “spoiled” by unemployment benefits, let’s consider the full context. The studies the critics referenced weren’t done in a time with high unemployment. In fact, Lawrence Katz, whose work has been cited in support of the theory, said those studies aren’t relevant today.
Last year Katz told Politifact.com that he supports an extension of unemployment benefits “when the labor market is weak and the ratio of job seekers to job openings is very high.” That would mean at a time like now. The nation is in the worst economy since the Great Depression with an unemployment rate of 9.5 percent. There are more than 14.5 million people out of work and another 2.5 million who are discouraged and have given up looking for work, according to the Labor Department.
It’s not as if there are jobs waiting for the people who lose their benefits. According to recent research, there are about five applicants for every open job nationwide. In 2007, there were two applicants for every open job. Carolyn Wilson, who heads a Reno nonprofit agency that helps people find work, said the situation is worse in Nevada. “For every job opening we have here there are probably at least 50 people applying for it,” she said. “That’s how bad it has gotten.”
Nevada leads the nation in the percentage of people unemplyed at 14 percent. There are 120,000 Nevadans out of work, and that doesn’t include those who have given up looking. Now there are about 2 million Americans who have run out of benefits because Republicans have blocked the legislation to extend the benefits. Most states typically offer unemployment for 26 weeks, and it’s notable that nearly half of the unemployed people in the nation have been jobless for more than 26 weeks.
The lack of benefits for the jobless will hurt the economy. Some economists say every dollar of unemployment benefits generates $1.60 for the economy because people who are unemployed spend the money.
Despite arguments to the contrary, this isn’t about people being spoiled or lazy. There aren’t jobs available. This is about ideology: The right-wing crowd doesn’t like government, and they are willing to let millions of Americans suffer to get their way. That is tragic.






Are you forgetting all the unnessary add ons the Democrats added to the bill. Kind of like the Dms said the same thing by adding all the pork. Then again the Republicans did mention that we could take some of the stimuless (sp intended) money and use it, rather than drive the debt up higher. Makes sense to me.The above article seems to leave out a lot of important information, like both sides of the story.
tax cuts for the rich!!!
that's the only way to solve the unemployment problem...
tax cuts for the rich!!!
If dumbocrats could only write a clean bill and not try to buy multiple constituencies it might just get done. Otherwise its just another wedge issue.
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" Some economists say every dollar of unemployment benefits generates $1.60 for the economy"
Wow!!!!!
Nevada economy must be skyrocketing for we are spending records amounts on unemployment benefits.
Huh! But our economy has been shrinking!!
But some economist have said the opposite. They must know what they are talking about. Right??
Hmmm....perhaps some economist are full of bunk.
Just a FYI.....Republicans in DC want to extend unemployment, too. They just don't want to charge it on our children's credit card. They want to use the "stimulus" funds that are just sitting there in the bank. Democrats want to add even more to the trillions upon trillions that they want to charge to our children's credit card.
It's also heartless to contine to support legalizing millions of illegal immigrants while so many American workers are out of work. A position the LVSun and their pal Harry Reid support wholeheartedly.
SgtRock hit the nail on the head. To pay this by the stimulus money would take the real cash away from the entities whom our politicians want to get the cash. To put it as a bill to be paid by future generations puts it in a "to be paid line", save the cash for the CEO's and the politicians.
Still ignoring facts I see. Many economists agree, extending unemployment benefits extends unemployment and lengthens the duration of unemployment spells. This means that by advocating extended unemployment benefits you hurt jobless people and create more jobless people.
It is no coincidence that the average duration of unemployment is now 35 weeks - the highest it has ever been since the government began tracking the statistic in 1948. The extended unemployment benefits (started under Bush and grants up to 99 weeks of benefits in some states) is making unemployment in America look more like Europe. http://www.writeonnevada.com/2010/06/ext...
http://books.google.com/books?id=6XEesVo...
Paris based OECD economists state, "It is well established that generous unemployment benefits can increase the duration of unemployment spells and the overall level of unemployment ..."
Increasing suicides, collapsing families, desperation, so Republicans can win elections. "I've got mine; screw you." Nice attitude. Proud Americans. Idiots.
Republican leadership understands economics, but ignores it. They know their constituency and exploits it. They know how to win election, but not how to govern. Those who do not learn from history, repeat it. Jeb Bush for President.
Stupid, man, just stupid.
http://npri.org/imgLib/20100622_Duration...
The Las Vegas Sun wants you to believe that the results displayed in the graph above have nothing to do with the fact unemployment benefits have been repeatedly extended since 2008 and allow people to collect between up to (in some states) 99 weeks in benefits.
From Dr. Katz (the economist cited by the Las Vegas Sun)
"The results indicate that a one week increase in potential benefit duration increases the average duration of the unemployment spells of UI recipients by 0,16 to 0.20 weeks."
http://ideas.repec.org/p/nbr/nberwo/2741...
hey gibbie the clown...
answer me this bozo...
if there are 15 million unemployed...
and only 1 million new jobs created on an annual basis...
what the hell are the 14 million still unemployed supposed to do at the end of the year...
hmmm...
answer in real terms...
speak english...
don't hide behind your phony baloney paid for research...
If all the unemployed were out-of-work bank CEOs or Big Oil execs republicans would be stampeding to the House and Senate floors to vote Hell Yes! for the benefits extension.
See, you have to be a down-on-your-luck millionaire/billionaire to get help from conservatives. Their bleeding hearts only start pumping when they hear tragic stories about blue bloods in jeopardy of losing their 6,000 sq ft vacation homes at Aspen, Hilton Head or Jackson Hole.
Oh, the pain.
The middle class unemployed on the other hand are stoned, spoiled brats gaming Obama's socialist system so they can continue to default on their auto, home and credit card loans at historic rates.
just got off the phone with w the maggot...
asked that maggot what he would do if still president...
that maggot said he would cut taxes for his buddies...
just like he did when that maggot was president...
tax cuts for the richest among us...
screw everybody else...
screw the national debt...
screw our kids...
tax cuts for the rich is what w the maggot would do...
now if you will excuse me...
i have to take another shower...
that maggot is one slimy sob...
It should be clear from the facts. Unemployment benefits create unemployment!
How many citations of certified geniuses from actual think tanks need to tell you?? It's the damn UNEMPLOYMENT CHECKS that create these unemployed PEOPLE.
When the jobs are there - a dishwasher slot at Jakes in Detroit - seventy eight people apply. Jake picks one and the other 77 starve. Well, gosh, folks, blame JAKE!
Blame those SPOILED unemployed for losing their jobs.
Blame the spoiled Americans for looking for work in the Republican's Great Beggar-thy-neighbor Recession.
And the actual TRUTH is that once we eliminate those damn unemployment checks, YES, PATRICK, YES, those unemployed will GO AWAY!
Hey birdie the dreamer, if you use e-verify and fire every illegal working in the United States, there'd be 15 million job openings. Harry Reid wants to give 20 million a pathway to citizenship.
How is that going to benefit any of the 20 million citizens who are unemployed?
No outsourced jobs are coming back.
We make job openings by enforcing the law. Sounds patriotic.
Enforce our immigration laws there'll be some job openings.
The Republicans are always good at pitting different ethnic or racial groups against each other. They always make it seem like "the other" is stealing your jobs. It has been their game plan for generations.
hey go go...
you mental capacity is clearly limited...
just like sharron "psycho smile" angle...
you offer no solution...
just some hollow rhetoric wrapped in arrogance...
insult those down on their luck...
makes you feel better about yourself...
pathetic...
absolutely positively pathetic...
imagine this....
you are an innocent insecure 15 year old girl...
just trying to figure out what life is all about...
minding your own business...
one night your dad gets hammered...
to your absolute horror he rapes you...
a month later you find out you're pregnant...
a month later you find out that giving birth to this child could kill you...
you have done absolutely nothing wrong...
nothing at all...
you are just a kid...
life has dealt you one of the worst hands known to man...
and what would sharron "psycho smile" angle do...
of course she would kick you when you are down...
she would tell you tough luck dear...
make some lemonade...
we don't care if you live or die...
we don't give a damn about you...
make that damn lemonade...
and then...
she would flash you that old yellow toothed psycho smile...
that i am better than you and you must do as i say psycho smile...
make no mistake boys and girls...
sharron "psycho smile" angle is an evil evil person...
remember this...
it's the one you least suspect that are the most evil...
and psycho sharron is nothing but a wolf wrapped in grandma's clothing...
If the Democrats would just sit down with the Republican leaders and ask them what they would sign this present giveaway could be signed into law. The Democratic pork purveyors always add a little something something for their own private causes. Blaming the Republicans won't work all the time. Sooner or later the Dems are going to have to get something done the legal way.
I think Birdie should be writing childrens books for a living.
Birdie,
Answer me this. If the government is borrowing billions to prop up failing corporations, borrowing billions to create green jobs that kill regular jobs, borrowing billions to pay for unemployment insurance and taxing businesses to pay for unemployment insurance, does that not take money away from the wealth and job producing sectors of the economy?
If extending unemployment benefit helps the economy, then why do all sorts of economists (like the ones I've cited so far) find that extending unemployment insurance increases unemployment and lengthens the duration of unemployment?
Recent studies reveal that only 51 percent of the population pays income taxes. The mushroom is getting bigger than the stem that supports it.
49 percent pay nothing and a large percentage of them receive Earned Income credit from the money that the 51 percent pay. WE the People are supporting too many of our brethren, and it still isn't enough. If you really want to hear from your neighbors, take away their entitlements.
According to a recent study, Nevada ranks highest with the number of undocumented workers in our current labor force. Many employers look the other way when they can hire someone for minimum wage or lesser pay. I'm not suggesting that eliminating illegals will make a drastic reduction in our unemployment rate, but will surely open jobs for many Nevadans.
So birdie are you a reporter? Do you work for the Las Vegas City Life?
What I would REALLY like to see happen is this: Lets refund teabaggers all their taxes. Then I want them off our highways, out of the sky the FAA keeps safe, I don't want them to ever again eat FDA inspected meat, I want all their poisonous products to come without labels, I want their utilities cut off, I don't want them getting weather reports from NOAA, if their children get a mysterious illness they have to call Joe the doctor, not the CDC or National Health Center.Here's another great idea teabaggers-lets keep Bush's and Angle's plan for privatizing everything going! -maybe we could get Joe The Plumber to come out and form a firefighting company to fight those pesky brush fires! Or replace Metro with Joe's police force? How bout Joe's freeway? Joe's Gaming Commission-?
We had some good choices for an GOP senatorial candidate, we got "chickens for checkups" and "second amendment solutions". Thanks teabaggers.
Keep the politicians that show us they practice fiscal responsibility. That may be hard to do though.
I KNOW EVERYONE of us can see what the GOP is doing in congress, filibuster after filibuster standing lockstep and opposing EVERY single bill THEN blaming the democrats for not getting anything done.I know that you know why Reid hasn't done more than he has,-Right now if the Democrats proposed a bill requiring us to like puppies and kittens-the GOP would oppose it. Come-on there is NO way you can justify that; and I don't think you can justify voting for a women who would tell your raped and impregnated daughter it was "Gods Plan".
Reno, I've got more faith in individuals than I do government regulators, so I'll happily take that trade off. Problem is, left-wing political theory doesn't allow for political or economic competition - hence the always present desire to centralize control over everything. That said, I'd happily welcome social experiments in the country, allowing people to take major reductions in taxes and government regulations in exchange for freedom and accountability.
I realize this is the Sun, a paper that exists only because of the pity the review journal shows by allowing it to piggyback it in delivery, but once again I ask....
Should unemployment be a lifetime benefit?
If you can't find a job in a year, one has to try a bit harder. Go work in Primm, god knows, if you can speak english out there you get hired.
Look out of state, get roommates.
Oh, and gogo, if I had a sixteen year old daugther, that last thing I'd want is for her to bring a baby to term. Just what we need, another unprepared parent without the ability to raise their child properly.
*note, some right-wing political theory also desires centralized control over everything (however, I'll note that sense classical liberalism and libertarianism have been lumped with the right-wing, and these camps advocate decentralized government).
hey gibbie the clown...
once again bozo...
you didn't answer the question...
and you fell back on some theoretical mumbo jumbo...
same old crap...
let's deal with reality son...
jobs are simply not being created at a fast enough rate to absorb the unemployed...
you can talk theory all you want...
but the fact is millions and millions will lose their benefits...
millions and millions of little kids will suffer...
and your theoretical crap simply will not solve the problem...
reality son...
we must deal in reality...
and no i don't work for a paper...
although that's not a bad idea...
maybe a little part time gig writing a blog...
hey greenspun...
you out there buddy...
i would knock the damn cover off the ball...
drive your eyeball count through the roof...
you know it...
and i know it...
you out there greenspun...
" Some economists say every dollar of unemployment benefits generates $1.60 for the economy"
So if everyone got laid off the economy would be booming!
You have to love liberal economists.
BTW, the state must raise UE taxes on business big time next year. I'm sure they'll be in a hiring mood then.
Birdie,
I did answer the question
1) Government borrowing and taxes that are used to pay the extended unemployment insurance are robbing corporations of capital that can create jobs.
2) Government stimulus and job creation programs are redirecting resources to lower valued uses reducing our ability to create jobs
and
3) You still have no explanation for why all sorts of economists, including Dr. Lawrence Katz which the Sun cites, find that extending unemployment benefits increases unemployment and lengthens the duration of unemployment spells.
If you can't provide an answer for that last one, you've got nothing at all.
It's not just about unemployment-the GOP opposes ALL social legislation ALL THE TIME. "The American workers are spoiled"
Phil Gramm called us whiners. It's ALWAYS the unions who are to blame, never the exec's. They oppose minimum wages, heck they oppose wages period. I believe they look at Mexico's two classes-Patrons and Peons with envy. Their tax cuts for the rich certainly supports my belief. The "trickle down effect" has worked out real well for America huh? It trickles all right-ALL THE WAY TO THEIR ACCOUNTS IN THE CAYMAN ISLANDS!
The radical extremist "pretend to be" republicans have adopted a slash and burn tactic to make economic life in America as miserable as they possibly can so they can blame President Obama and the Democrats for the bad economy.
The totalitarian, corrupt, and incompetent party of "No" and constant "Obstruction" along with their Wall St. Gankster cronies created the conditions that resulted in the loss of 20% of America's total net worth. That amount is over $11,000,000,000,000.
The "miserable failure" party will not accept responsibility for the almost destruction of our financial system.
The "miserable failure" party will not work with President Obama and the Democrats to get America up and going again.
These Fascists have so tarnished the republican label that they have to radicalize various groups for their vote and their vote only.
They demonize and scapegoat the invited immigrants to get the vote of the xenophiles, the haters, and the racist.
They demonize the gays to get votes from the anti-gay groups.
They demonize women that get abortions for the votes from the anti-abortion groups.
They demonize President Obama and the Democrats for spending money to help the people to get America going again.
They demonize those that are against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
They demonize the Seniors on Social Security and Medicare.
They demonize the veterans that have PTSD and serious head trauma injuries.
They demonize those religious groups that are not Fascist Christians.
They demonize that segment of the press that still reports the truth.
They demonize any and all traditional Republicans, Independents, and Democrats that speak out against them and their lies they repeat over and over.
They do all this demonizing and scapegoating in order to radicalize those people who do not consider all the issues and are willing to vote on just one hot button emotional issue, thereby voting against their own interest of themselves, their family,and their community.
The Fascists know they will never get elected if they do not radicalize the segmented groups.
They will never resolve these hot button emotional issues because they know that if they do they will never get elected.
Now, they are trying to radicalize those that are working for wages and in business against those that have lost their jobs and are drawing unemployment.
Just wait until the unemployment extension bill passes, the Fascists will take credit for it even though the majority of them will vote against it. They did that with the stimulus bill. They voted against it and after it passed they took credit for the jobs that were created.
Thanks for the needless hyperbole vidi...
I hated economics 101 so I don't understand economic theory all that well, but I have always wanted to sit down with a GOP economic strategist over coffee or with a beer, Stockman or Gramm or ANY of the Wall St. guys or Joe the Plumber and ask them: How does America work if it's middle class works for Peon wages? The GOP opposes any kind of wage hike from the minimum wage to union wages to unemployment to standard of living increases. I really want to know how they expect America's economy to survive if a cashier or truck driver or teacher or room service waiter or dealer can't buy a house or a car or a boat? It really seems at times like the GOP's idea of a perfect America would be for the fortunate or the business class to sit in the country club sipping cocktails while the rest of us live in cardboard huts.
VIDI, sounds like dumbocrats, circa 2007-2009 with the "Hope he fails" agenda!
Its deja vu all over again.
The GOP even opposed the Lilly Bedder Act: It passed in the House of Representatives with 247 votes in support and 171 against. The vote was nearly perfectly split along party lines, with only three Republicans voting in favor. The The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act passed the Senate, 61-36, on January 22, 2009. The votes in favor included every Democratic senator (except Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts, who was absent from the vote because of health issues) and five Republican senators.
5/ FIVE- I'll repeat that 5! GOP senators thought that women should receive equal pay. John Ensign wasn't one of the five. Angle would not have been one either; "we're spoiled".
All of the boot licking, thumb sucking wingnut bloggers cannot stand the truth. They cannot dispute the truth so they resort to name calling, argumentum ad hominem attacks, and juvenille jingoism.
The "Truth" says "Bring it on!', yes bring on the lies that you keep repeating over and over in your feeble attempt to make people believe it-- just like the Nazi's did to the German people.
Harry S Truman(my hero!) said he didn't give Republican's "hell" he "just told the truth about them and it made them feel like they were in Hell".
It is really a pity that in order for the the GOP to survive it finds itself having to accept into their ranks the ranting baggers who have Glenn Beck as an intellectual mentor. We need two parties for balance in this country; It is a shame that to achieve that balance the GOP is giving us candidates from FoxNews!
hey gibbie the clown...
you did NOT answer the question...
you NEVER do...
you just run and hide behind your pathetic theories...
you know what is funny...
you clowns just trip all over yourselves trying to stick more dollar bills into corporations' pockets...
good lord...
listen up son...
the relation between extending unemployment benefits and depriving corporations of resources is super tenuous at best...
especially with interest rates at there lowest point in history...
matter of fact...
there is no relationship...
just more pure crap spewed forth from you...
me...
i'll defend the innocent children of those that are unemployed...
all day every day and twice on sundays...
while you clowns defend big business that already has congress in it's hip pockets...
good lord son...
don't you ever get tired of defending the bad guys...
Obama made it perfectly clear where he stands on outsourced jobs in this town hall meeting from March 26, 2009: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_offi...
Not only does he consider them lost forever, but thinks it would be bad for the economy to bring them back.
Birdie,
Sorry, but those are facts. I've answered your questions and you respond with rhetoric and dogma. In the end, it is you who dodges questions and can't back up his/her own statements with logic or reason.
Explain this: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oHKds8gsAEk/TD...
Explain this,
"The results indicate that a one week increase in potential benefit duration increases the average duration of the unemployment spells of UI recipients by 0,16 to 0.20 weeks."
http://ideas.repec.org/p/nbr/nberwo/2741...
Reno,
Between 1997 and 2007 the minimum wage remained $5.15 an hour yet the number of workers earning the minimum wage fell by 3 million despite the economy growing by 5 million wage earners.
How do you think that happens?
Women can thank those horrible ole radical left-wing suffragettes who left the kitchen to fight for you. And the new Lilly Ledbetter act making it the LAW that women finally get equal pay-You know the one the GOP and the teaparty opposed? You can thank the liberals for that too. We Lib's are such mean, nasty, horrible people after all-actually wanting to see EVERYBODY get treated fairly-you know like the Golden Rule-how dare us! Can't you just see Angle and Palin out marching with Friedan and Gloria Steinem? Yes Women owe conservative men quite a bit, conservative women too. Oh ya and African American's, and gays, and Hispanic's, and sick people,-they/we all owe the conservative's a big thank you for all they done for us-NOTHING!
Teaparty people live up to American Ideals about as well as they live up to Christian Ideals. Except for all the stuff about loving your neighbor and not throwing stones, and love and compassion for their fellow man -except for that stuff they're all for getting into heaven. And except for a woman's rights, and civil rights, and gay rights, and the right of EVERY AMERICAN TO GET MEDICAL CARE they are all for American ideals too.
Boftx,
Some outsourced jobs will never come back. Those jobs are at the low end of the economic value chain where American labor tends to be higher end.
We can do some things to create more jobs, like eliminate the minimum wage, repeal the Davis Bacon Act, eliminate tariffs, eliminate corporate subsidies, and reduce corporate taxes (The U.S. has some of the highest corporate taxes among developed countries).
not so fast there renostar,
they gave us trickle down
is the children learning
my pet goat in its entirety
not to mention
Saddam went after mah daddy and so...
WMD
mushroom cloud
Mission Accomplished
lax them regs there w street
and of course God wants me to be Prez
nah, we don't don't need a good backup plan, Drill, baby, dr..
The reason I enjoy opposing the Teabag Party is because regardless of how well they do in an election it's certain their success will be brief since they haven't got a clue how power can be used to better the lives of average Americans, those non-elites that makes up 70%-75% of all voters.
Republicans are stupid creatures of bad habits and no ideas so, predictably, they'll pull out St. Ronnie's 1980 playbook again (tax cuts for the wealthiest and deregulation across the board.) But what else after those two pages? Maybe invade a foreign nation for no reason except to burn another one-trillion hard-earned taxpayer dollars?
Like dangerous Dick Cheney hunting cage raised, flightless quail (aka fish in a barrel) the GOP is the party that can't shoot straight so its guaranteed they'll blow off their own foot...or a friend's face, when given the chance. Then it's back to the minority ward to nurse their latest self-inflicted wounds.
"We can do some things to create more jobs, like eliminate the minimum wage, repeal the Davis Bacon Act, eliminate tariffs, eliminate corporate subsidies, and reduce corporate taxes (The U.S. has some of the highest corporate taxes among developed countries)."
But then you would create private sector jobs.
We need to pass unemployment extensions so we can continue trickle up poverty as practiced by the left.
Reno,
The Lilly LedBetter Act only extends the statute of limitations from 180 days after first paycheck to 180 days after last paycheck http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilly_Ledbe...
It does not address equal pay for women, although many tend to argue that women are paid less than men because of selection bias (that is, women self select into jobs that earn less pay in exchange for more flexibility, not because of rampant or widespread sexual discrimination). If sexual discrimination was as widespread as some radical feminists claim then businesses could hire female engineers and architects and work them as much as men for (what is the figure again?) 68 cents on the dollar. Thus you can have 4 women for the price of 3 men and get the productive value of 4 people. Thus companies would scramble to hire women over men (cheaper and just as productive) which results in competition for labor which in turn results in bidding up the price of female labor, resulting in equal or near equal pay between men and women for the same job, hours worked, productivity, etc.
When we handed our research to the Asians on the development of compact flourescents, look at the results. We donated several hundred million dollars of research. We eliminated our jobs. We improved their position internationally and tripped over our selves.
Enter LED research done here. Do you think we are any smarter this time around?
Most production facilities are in developing lands. A little profit trickles back, but for the top dogs, not any of us pups.
Well Pat I think that happens because the minimum wage was so low that it was better to be on welfare than to work.
If right-wing economic theory works-that is: wages are driven by the market and by sales- then why doesn't the fryman at McDonald's make about $40 an hour? The GOP put All of the conservative free market ideas into place from deregulation to tax cuts on the rich. We have seen the results.
Now you conservatives can keep on trying to convince us that it's good to let corporations run the county and for us peon's to just accept it and the world will be all rosy. BUT WE AIN'T BUYIN WHAT YOU'RE SELLIN ANYMORE.
The genius of discrimination, by PRG.
Okay let's do tall people. Anybody over 6'6" works for 77% of shorty.
Oh, how those tall guys put in the hours, trying to worm their miserable way up the ladder.
It's great for the boss, huh, Pat??
I'm sure Shelton would approve! LOL
oh that explains why the GOP opposed the Ledbetter bill very well Patrick-because radical feminists wanted it.
How much should a conservative female get paid?
"How much should a conservative female get paid?"
Obviously only a government bureaucrat has the genius to figure this out.
Still not one word of praise for Angle?? Only "no more Harry". You guys know the Iranians once said "no more Shah"; that's worked out with the Ayatollah pretty well don't you think? I'm sorry that is a really far out analogy- but you can see my point-ANYONE is NOT better than Reid. And thanks to the teaparty that is what we have in Nevada this year-a vote for an extreme right-wing zealot who thinks raped impregnated women should just make the best of it and someone we really don't like much.
Reno, poverty shrunk during that time: http://www.project.org/images/graphs/Pov...
meanwhile welfare rolls declined (there was a nice steady decline from 1994 until it rose for the first time in 2009). So no, people weren't jumping on welfare to avoid a minimum wage job. What caused 3 million fewer people to earn minimum wage by 1997 despite 5 million additional wage earners?
*by 2007
Dear teabaggers-I hope you have enjoyed your moment in the sun; frolicking around in you're revolutionary hats and carrying muskets and signs of Obama, and his family in Nazi uniforms. Many of you actually made it on TV bless your hearts. BUT YOUR 15 MINUTES ARE UP! By the time November gets here Angle will be ready to concede BEFORE the election. Rand Paul too. Americans do have short "sound bite" attention spans-but don't sell us to short-OUR MEMORIES AREN'T SHORT ENOUGH TO FORGET WHAT BUSH AND THE RIGHT-WING NEOCONS DID TO THIS COUNTRY. If you think we have forgotten that Obama inherited a job loss rate of 750,000 a month, you are mistaken; if you think we have forgotten Bush going to war by borrowing money from China so he could cut taxes for his "base" you are mistaken, if you think America has forgotten how insurance companies routinely dropped peoples health-coverage to keep a good bottom-line you are mistaken. By the time the election gets here and Veterans see what the Democrats have done for them, when seniors realize what the teaparty would do to SocSec. When HALF our population thinks about "making lemonade from lemons" with a rapist's child? When people come to realize that they can now breath a sign of relief not worrying about losing EVERYTHING if they get sick? I think this election is going to be a "slam dunk"(Bush's WMD war phrase,Oh ya we remember that too!). We remember what the GOP has done to our schools, we remember how the GOP wanted to keep our health-care on status quo, we remember how the GOP gave away the keys to big business, including the Supreme Court giving corporations the rights of a citizen so they can further corrupt our elections. We have SEEN the results of how they run government. AND WE REMEMBER!
GW Bush left office less than 18 months ago after serving two terms.
Question: Why isn't W out on the campaign trail helping raise money and elect fellow Republicans? After all, he's been the party standard-bearer this entire decade and it's not like he hasn't got time (not a big draw on the speech circuit ,lol!), what with his brush-clearing skills being wasted in the manicured Dallas suburbs where he and Laura now live.
We know why the biggest elephant in the room is trying to stay hidden, hoping no one notices the broken furniture and gigantic piles of s%&# everywhere.
GW Bush isn't campaigning for GOP candidates because he's a failure and a pariah. If he gets within 200 yards of any GOP candidate events he'd probably be arrested and a restraining order be issued.
But why? Teabaggers want us to "leave W out of this!" and forget that he ever existed, much less ran our great nation into the ground for eight miserable years. They don't want us to mention that Bush presided over the Lost Decade and brought us the Great Recession.
And they certainly don't want to see his face in a photo next to their own. If that happened, people might connect the dots that lead straight to the same old GOP zoo that George was raised in.
Right or wrong, a majority of US citizens are ready to blame the lack of job openings on companies hiring illegal workers. Any politician that doesn't recognize or ignores this mindset is in for a rude surprise.
Jobs will be the only issue in November that matters. We can no longer afford to think about anything else.
right on lastthroes!
OBAMA, REID, DEMOCRATS= HAS BEENS
TIME FOR A CHANGE
Obama and Reid are killing our economy.
Obama is killing the national economy while Reid is killing our local economy.
REID is going to vote for amnesty after the election
REID=OBAMA
I'm voting for Sharron Angle
I gotta go-STILL NOT ONE WORD IN PRAISE OF ANGLE-that's really interesting. What's the matter teaparty? choke on your lemonade? Better hope Rove and the Prosper Group can keep her locked up and quiet-THEN you might have a chance.
Otherwise is Macaca time.
hey gibbie the clown...
listen up bozo...
so basically what you are saying is...
when a family runs out of unemployment benefits...
and they become homeless...
and their little innocent children ask dad what is wrong...
he should tell the kids that even though the economic collapse was not his fault...
rather it was caused by the whores on wall street...
who got the biggest bail outs by far...
he should say...
sorry kids...
our community feels that it is better for us to suffer horribly...
than to impose on big business in any way...
which is a crock of crap theory by the way...
sorry kids...
you country cares far more about corporations than kids...
you lose...
besides...
you are spoiled anyway...
man o man...
what a bunch of maggots the republicans are...
Lady Gogo remains irrelevant because she constantly regurgitates the same Teabagger talking points over and over and over.
Lady Gogo craves attention like Rush Limbaugh craves Oxycontin.
Mr. Gibbons: Extending UI benefits does not create more jobless people. The recession creates more jobless people. Cutting people off unemployment can force difficult decisions, like moving to a different state which can disrupt family life. Or without UI, some people stop looking for work and just get by on the underground economy.
Since you are our financial expert, can you school Angle on the difference, between bailout, stimulus (the ARRA) and Sen. Reid's actions to save City Center and ultimately MGM/Mirage?
I trust you saw you floundering with Cavuto.
No Birdie, I'm saying "The results indicate that a one week increase in potential benefit duration increases the average duration of the unemployment spells of UI recipients by 0,16 to 0.20 weeks."
http://ideas.repec.org/p/nbr/nberwo/2741...
because,
"job search increases sharply [from 20 minutes a week to 70] in the weeks prior to benefit exhaustion."
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob...
Nightingale, as you are aware, the recession caused the bulk of the unemployment, but extending unemployment benefits from 26 weeks to a potential max of 99 weeks likely ended up increasing unemployment as well as increasing the duration of unemployment. Afterall, the average duration of unemployment is now at a record shattering 35 weeks, smashing all recessions since 1948 (when the statistic was first created).
No I didn't see Angle on Cavuto because I don't watch TV.
Patrick and gogowhitesox:
I don't care how many links you guys quote, how many studies you cite, there is rhetoric infused studies that push both sides of the issue.
Where you two separate yourselves from most is your lack of compassion for your fellow man.
No matter how you slice it, we can afford to help these families, you two are in favor of making people beg or starve for food.
And that is on you, not me, not vidi, not latthroes, and the rest of the humane human beings here.
You guys are monsters with a keyboard.
There is little doubt that the average US citizen knows that much of our job loss is due to out-sourcing of jobs for cheap labor. They also recognize that those jobs are not coming back. They even recognize to some extent that new manufacturing jobs are simply not going to appear from thin air so long as cheap off-shore labor exists.
The only area that the government can really have an immediate impact on for job creation is actually job-recovery from illegal workers.
I think it is safe to say that all economy stems from the acquisition/production of food, followed by shelter and then energy. Anything else can probably be considered a luxury. Our government must get its priorities right before we can pull out of this.
How about this one Birdie:
"the probability of leaving unemployment rises dramatically just prior to when benefits lapse."
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?a...
hey gibbie the clown...
in my all too real hypothetical example above...
what exactly should dad tell the kids when they become homeless...
hmmm...
do tell bozo...
i can't wait to hear this...
"Organize a planned economy?"
Hell no! But before one can go looking at Wall Street or health insurance I say one needs a solid understanding of just what it is all based on.
I think Congress and the rest of our elected leaders have lost sight of what really counts, and right now that is JOBS so people can pay for the basics.
gogo said:
Tell me, Jeff, how long should the government pay unemployment benefits?
I say:
A sliding scale based upon the current unemployment rates with an average of about 35 weeks, then there should be a community something for something job with safe daycare included.
There, you have an answer, now will you stop the claims no one answers this question?
If all the unemployment benefits for our fellow NV citizens stopped, another 108,000 people might lose their jobs.
The unemployed Nevadan receives, on average, $290 per week that is spent on rent or mortgage payments, property taxes, auto payments, utilities, food, clothing, home insurance, auto insurance,gasoline,etc....
When these people buy non-food items they pay 8.1% sales tax that goes into the coffers of the government that pays for the infrastructure.
Property taxes also support the infrastructure.
The radical, extremist, boot licking ,blatant propagandists are doing what their despicable, miserable failure masters tell them to do because they have to demonize people to radicalize their supporter for their vote and their vote only.
The unemployment extension bill will be passed and watch the "pretend to be republicans" claim credit for it's passing even though almost 100% of them will vote against it, just the same way they did with the stimulus bill.
The "Truth" says "Make My Day" and the blatant propagandists for the radical extremists wingnuts just tell more and more lies which "Makes the Day" for "Truth."
Here's a dumb idea that might work along those lines. In 2007 Nevada enacted legislation making an energy audit part of real estate transfer, starting 1/11.
An angel appears at the domicile with infrared camera, blower door, duct-blaster, gizmoes and gauges and in a while hands the seller a report.
Remember back just 16 years ago, somebody came up with the Nutrition Facts food label? And we got to see what we're getting for our buck?
Good houses will fetch top dollar and qualify for Energy Efficient Mortgage.
Structures with shortfalls can be addressed with retrofit work and buyers get to roll the upgrade into the mortgage also.
Carpenters, window specialists, energy auditors, insulators, HVAC techs, realtors and lenders who know Building Performance and Energy Efficient Mortgages will see brighter days before The Epiphany!
Back in the day we had candles and cobwebs to go by. Now these cats got infra-red cameras and cool toys to see in color what we could only imagine in black and white. Lucky time to be part of the solution.
"At the end of May there were 3.2 million job openings, according to a new report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. In the face of nearly 15 million unemployed, that's obviously not enough. And if you add in those other Americans not working because they're discouraged or marginally attached ("U-5"), then that number jumps to almost 17 million. Here's a picture of how the labor market changed since 2007:"
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/arch...
80 billion for UIC and stimulus is to much to add to the deficit is the republican perspective.
700 billion in tax cuts is okay though?
Deficit=spending>taxes recieved
so if you cut taxes, it has the same affect as spending....
so let me get this straight..
80 billion to help Americans who at no fault of their own are suddenly unemployed, people that worked their whole lives paying out 20 per cent of their income in taxes. NO
700 billion in tax cuts to help Americans who have jobs earning over 200,000 a year. YES
FK them.
I hope every republican a hole trips and hits their head on a sharpened pencil.
"real hypothetical"
Oh Birdie, can you tell me what your blog is? :)
but if we cut taxes buisnesses will have more money to hire
BS
buisnesses only hire if buisness is good, not because taxes are low.
If Americans have no jobs, and no income...nobody's spending. Regardless of all the tax cuts you get, I could care less if buisness owners paid no taxes. If customers and potential customers have NO cash, they will not be spending any money. Ironic isn't it.
Why are Teabaggers trying so hard to disown GW Bush and throw him under the bus as if he never served in the White House for eight year?
After all, George pretty much toed the right-wing line -- he constantly pushed for deregulation, cut taxes for the wealthiest 2% and went after Muslim evildoers by invading Iraq.
He's one of their own -- a lifelong died-in-wool Republican from the very red state of Texas, born into a privileged family of staunch Republicans that goes back for several generations in US politics. But none of that matters so he was thrown under the bus like a mangy, stray dog.
It's a shame the GOP/Teabag Party is so ruthless. They'd cut and gut their own grandma if that's what it took to regain power.
hey gibbie the clown...
i knew you had no answer...
you never do...
you clowns are pathetic...
absolutely positively pathetic...
Let me get this straight...
according to the Teabag Party it's OK to flush $1.2 trillion (and counting) down the Iraq toilet but extending unemployment benefits for American citizens is out of the question?
...what planet are we on?
It doesn't matter one whit where the government obtains its funds, it all gets passed on to the consumer one way or another, it's a zero sum game.
The only way to improve our economic picture is to put US citizens to work. And the only way to do that is going to be by denying work to illegal immigrants.
Any policy aimed at bringing jobs back from overseas is doomed to failure right now. Any government spending/stimulus plan is a huge gamble that leaves us far worse off than before if it fails.
No, the only immediate source of jobs are the ones held by illegal workers. The top priority of the government should be returning those jobs to the market.
On a related note, the only immediate spending cuts that can be made is to deny ALL non-emergency services to illegal residents.
"You cut taxes and consumers have more money to spend.."
AND THAT'S NO B.S.
How is that possible, if the only people getting tax cuts make 200k or more a year?
The average consumer brings in roughly 60k, if that, so explain to me how this benefits the economy more than putting the money in the hands of an actual consumer who is currently unemployed at no fault of their own?
It doesn't, but its impossible to argue with republicans because most of yall are idiots, and if your not an idiot your in it to milk the little guy.
Oh for heavens sake gogo - I've heard the "cut taxes" and the "no new taxes" BS enough in the last 10 years and look where it's landed us. Corporate Welfare doesn't work, hasn't the recession taught you anything????
That's right, I forgot Republiscum call them "fees" not taxes, so it's OK!!
http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/artic...
hmmm somehow regardless of what the data says, cutting taxes for people making over 200k annualy will put more money into the hands of consumers.hmmmm okay so explain to me how 1+1=3
why do the republicans insist on going to war with the workingclass? Do buisness owners really think they are more important than the average worker?
I guess buisness owners can just do it all themselves, why even hire workers?
HELLP!
boftx and I agree!
There's common ground in that thar zero sum game mother lode.
It's us and that's the beauty of it. As Harper Lee put it into Scout's words in To Kill a Mockingbird, "just folks"
Low-hanging fruit, though, boftx, is not always in edible range. If Pedro and Juan vamoose, how do you know Pete and Johnnie'll step up and trim and not bit*h about the heat and low dough deal for them? After all, they got a family to feed.
The problem I keep smelling stronger and stronger is extreme discontent over the chasm between the CEO life and rank and file.
Tony Hayward's "I wunt mah loif back.' early on in the spill saga is poignant when you hear the wailings of families, when cultures and ways of living are wiped out and then pan back across the pond at Tony's yacht coming in 4th.
See, some of us get the feeling that those dat got are gonna keep on a puttin it to us so their'lives' couyld maybe come in second in next years race. Their decisions seem whim and fancy; our lives are sundered and their boats are slower than they want.
Some see second amendment rights as dirty nuke bombs in Des Moines and Decatur, LSD in water systems, bird flu experiments in blood supply.
Some want to raise the stakes in the land of the free.
gogo and Patrick a few others-I have enjoyed the debate; at least you haven't resorted to the "the sky is falling Obama's a communist/marxist/socialist" drivel so common to teaparty argument. thank you. That being said: aren't we paying a tax rate RIGHT NOW lower than at anytime since WW2? or are we being lied to? Didn't the stimulus money lower our taxes? Didn't we try tax cuts under Bush? Didn't the Government shrink during the Clinton years and grow under Bush?
We are entitled to our own opinions but not our own facts. I appreciate Patrick's references BUT did we not deregulate? Did we not cut taxes? I say again the "trickle down" economic theory is a miserable failure. I don't know how much more evidence you need. I know you say our corporate taxes are the highest in the world-BUT OUR CORPORATIONS DON'T HAVE TO PAY THEM. That 30,000 page tax policy wasn't written for us peon's. Enron was broken into 935 different corps., All in the Cayman's and was actually got refunds for taxes they didn't pay. I don't think they were an exception. I think thousands of corps are doing the same things right now. Do you think for one second that the GOP would stand for cleaning that mess up? BE HONEST-they would not allow that anymore than are going to vote on financial reform now. I heard on today's news that 4/FOUR! GOP senators are considering voting for financial reform. We tried deregulation and we have given the rich one of the biggest redistribution's of wealth in history. IT DID NOT WORK.
gogo your full of sht. The tea party is straight up and down republican, created by republicans and if you believe anything elese your the freaking fool.
You have no facts to back up your logic other than theories. You said
"You cut taxes and consumers have more money to spend.." Thats true...if they have jobs.
Tax breaks for people making over 200k does nothing but keep the rich in their big ass houses thinking they are better than working class, and calling people like myself spoiled and lazy.
As far as I m concerned fk the rich, they do nothing but think they are more entitled than everyone else, they get better treatment in the justice system, they get better treatment from retailers, resteraunts, everything, and now MF'ers like yourself want to call me stupid for thinking that the people who caused me to go unemployed for the first time in my life, should pay for it.
I wasn't out there working mortgage loans trying to reel in suckers...nope I was working, and sweating making an honest living. I wasn't out there making contacts with public officials so I can try to get special tax breaks, or lessen regulation in my industry so I can make more money, nop...I was working and sweating making an honest living. So these greedy fools play games with our lives cause mass unemployment and then stupid mother fckers like you want to get on here and ridicule us, call us stupid and lazy for thinking that we should at least get the comfort of knowing that we get 99 weeks of UIC because it seems as though this should only last a year. FK U.
Your lucky I dont know who your punk as s is cause I would btch slap you so hard then I would laugh at the fear in your little btch face. Go fck yourself in your brainwashed racist tea party loving, so stupid they cant even come up with a genuine name for their movement, swear we are not republican, workingclass sell out, dumb fking as s.
I want to apologize to well thought and reasonable conservatives such as Patrick and gogo and a VERY few others for using the term "baggers" I'm not referring to you. I think conservatives-THINKING CONSERVATIVES-are just fine,and enjoy debate with them. You are obviously intelligent and well reasoned. I'm referring to the hate filled screamers who can't even define their anger. They might as well join a militia or the KKK, because that appears to be their mindset. I ask you just how am I supposed to react to people wearing tricorne hats carrying pictures of Obama as Hitler, and looking into cameras yelling during town-hall meeting that they don't want socialized medicine and they want Government to keep it's hands off their SOC.Security and Medicare? Those people repulse me. And I think they should repulse you too. Goldwater and Buckley now those guys were conservative's with brains;-great ideas! self-reliance and small government no argument here. I would wager not 1 in 10 teabaggers have ever read a word from either (probably have not even heard of them) and they were the fathers of the conservative movement.
So again my apologies to you. I especially pity that fact that in order for the the GOP to survive it finds itself having to accept into their ranks the ranting baggers who have Glenn Beck as an intellectual mentor. We need two parties for balance in this country; It is a shame that to achieve that balance the GOP is giving us candidates from the right fringe!
Jeff,
Based on the data that is available, people who lack compassion are the ones who advocate extending unemployment benefits. Advocating extended unemployment benefits = advocating policy to increase unemployment and increase the duration of unemployment.
http://www.writeonnevada.com/2010/07/let...
Ken Lay was a friend of mine. We played cards, shot some pool and talked business and sang together. Watched the Missouri Tigers kick ass.
Bad dude huh? Looked until he saw and saw everything that his eyes could see.
Backed off, danced it up and made a pile for MMMM EEEE.
What's UnAmerican about screwing everybody you can for a buck?
Let's see..
Halliburton: Kuwait, Iraq, etc..Mr. Cheney
Standard Oil: supplied Hitler's regime w/ petroleum. Mr Rockefeller
Military/Industrial complex: tax payer...corporations
Politics
Greed
Capitalism without check or balance
*note: I don't think this issue has anything to do with compassion but I do believe some people will put "feelings" above facts... that is, they will advocate for policies that make them feel better about themselves even in the face of overwhelming evidence that the policies actually hurt the very people they want to help. Thus, I believe people are stubborn about the facts, not actually uncompassionate or heartless.
Other prime examples on unintended consequences coming from well meaning people are the minimum wage and price controls (especially on housing).
"THe mandate of the Tea Party is that all candidates must toe the fiscal line and if they vote for these wasteful spending bills they will be held accountable. Goerge Bush would have been one of the candidates the Tea Party would have run out on a rail."
hmm in one statement
"Well, Lectrocuda and Jen , the "Bush" tax cuts due to expire hit EVERYONE paying taxes. And, gee, I seem to remember unemployment being well under 6% for most of the Bush administration."
in the next..
"The problem I keep smelling stronger and stronger is extreme discontent over the chasm between the CEO life and rank and file." - airweare
That is the same stench I smell. I just haven't found a good way to put it, yet.
PRG and I have a basic disagreement about human nature and the goodness thereof. I believe that his ideas, while worthy of consideration, depend upon humans being fundamentally good and not overly greedy. PRG says humans are in fact good. I disagree and believe his ideas will fail because humans are basically greedy.
That is not to say greed, in general terms, is a bad thing. It greed's broadest sense it is a survival trait.
But in today's world greed for life has transmuted into greed for lifestyle and has become a fundamental problem that needs to be addressed, whether one is talking about profits or how much welfare is enough.
"Send me your location and I'll be happy to oblige you any time you want you punk. I've never lost a fight and I wouldn't lose to some gutless hack like you."
sent you my location. Im sure you'll find Im alot of things...but gutless hack aint one of them.
Warning: For those of you that are new to this site:
Patrick_R_Gibbons works for NPRI/NV as an educational policy analyst but that is just sugar coated veneer for propagandist.
Some of the propaganda techniques they use is taken from "Propaganda techniques of German Fascism." Just Google it.
Basically Hitler and his propaganda minister Goebbels perfected the "Big Lie" and repeated the lies over and over, even preposterous lies, to make people believe it-brainwashing.
Here are some other sources: www.oldamericancentury.org/14ptsa.html,
www.ourfuture.org,
www.alternet.org/tags/fascism/
Reno,
You are correct there are plenty of Tea Party people that are nothing but big government populists who are mad that the other side won. Plenty of other Tea Party people like big government on the social side, just not in their back pockets. There are some Tea Party people that are logically consistent and just want smaller government all around.
It is also true that political populists and anti-intellectual talking heads have gravitated over to the Tea Party to try to take it over. It is also true that there are few mental giants alive on the right and those that are still around are sometimes overshadowed by the shrill shrieks of irrational partisan nuts.
That said, none of this makes the Tea Party wrong that government has gotten too big. The Tea Party isn't any more nuts (and is probably less nuts) than those in the animal rights (assault people), environmentalists (who have killed people) or anti-globalization groups (who destroy millions of dollars of property in protests)"
Vidi,
Is part of that Nazi strategy to avoid direct intellectual debates with others while attempting to focus the audience's attention on red herrings? Because you do a lot of that.
Boftx,
I think people are mostly good, but people are also self interested. People don't need overbearing government rules to be good. A few simple and transparent rules can encourage people to engage in positive-sum, mutually beneficial voluntary arrangements. Too much government regulation, intervention and taxation (especially complex taxation) risks corruption and undue influence by well entrenched special interests that can manipulate government power to their own favor resulting in zero-sum coercive arrangements.
PROPAGANDA 101 brought to you by our favorite tea b!&$#, Lady Gogo:
"...the Tea Party is not a Republican group."
_____
LOL! Where to start...?
The Tea Party is the most extreme-right elements of the conservative movement and GOP.
Remember, Tea Party zealots defeated longtime Utah republican senator Bob Bennett (who scored an 86% positive voting record with conservative groups) because he wasn't sufficiently crazy, replacing Bennett with an unhinged teabagger-approved candidate.
So Lady Gogo keeps spewing one of many tea myths hoping that by repeating it over and over the propaganda eventually becomes accepted as fact.
It's a typical fascist strategy.
In a better world, we'd love our kids enough to put petty aside and face the demons that are bringing us down: the 'well-entrenched special interests' PRG identifies.
For starters, they pump oil into paradise and bill us for it at the pump.
They take our kids and haul 'em to wars and send home the casket.
gogo said:
"All those downtrodden people who have been looking for a job for 52 weeks and you want to cut them off without a dime."
I say:
You are either unable to read, or you are untruthful to a degree I cannot explain. Never said such a thing.
Patrick,
Maybe your charts make it easier for you to sleep at night, but they are nothing but heartache and hunger for millions. Somewhere the little voice in you knows it.
The two of you are vicious to the have nots and those down on their luck.
James Sherk, a Heritage Foundation analyst was on "Hardball" stating that unemployment checks keep people from packing up and moving to find work. So Tweety asks him if he's encouraging his friends to pack up and look for work elsewhere to look for work.
"The look on the guy's face is priceless."
"You see, his friends are looking for work in their field, as he quickly explains."
Jeff,
I'm sorry, but you can't assume that because something makes YOU feel better it makes other people better off. People with good intentions like yourself aren't interested in the facts when the facts show the good intentions lead to unintended consequences that hurt the very needy people you intend to help.
Patrick,
Over one million people went from a paycheck of about $300 per week to no paycheck as a result of cancelling peoples unemployment compensation.
I know you are sure your brilliance will feed them faster than my work for pay, and in some bizarre right wing movie it may be true. Your way or my way, they ain't got no money tonight. Until you find a study that will show me they really have money but can't find it.
So -- please, don't be sorry, be righteous and quit making people beg for money or starve.
It's not complicated.
The Teabag Party wants to elect an army of mindless zombies who will scream NO! in unison to all legislation that comes up, for as long as the Obama Administration is in power.
Angle, Paul and Rubio are just the first of many cancer cells the extreme-right wants to introduce into our politics. Once inside it'll be very difficult to stop the spread of a terminal disease.
You have your stimulus package, where the infamous jobs Obama and the rest of the liberal nutcases say are being created. Now you liberals claim the stimulus is working yet you want to suck more from the system. Make up your minds, can decide what lie to tell today, you people are pathetic!
No more freebies for you or your family. Go out and get job, we're done supporting a system that we know is broken and that put America is the poor house in the first place. We that choose to work are sick and tired of supporting the liberal agenda, we're done.
U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics:
JOB GROWTH SINCE WWII
Lyndon Johnson (1963-69), 3.74%
Jimmy Carter (1977-81), 3.11%
Bill Clinton (1993-2001), 2.42%
Harry Truman (1945-53), 2.38%
Richard Nixon (1969-74), 2.30%
John Kennedy (1961-63), 2.28%
Ronald Reagan (1981-89), 2.04%
Gerald Ford (1974-77), 0.95%
Dwight Eisenhower (1953-61), 0.87%
George H. W. Bush (1989-93), 0.59%
George W. Bush (2001-09), 0.28%
Here is the Reid story on 8 News Now's website:
http://www.8newsnow.com/Global/story.asp...
Maybe someday Lady Gogo will tell us what the Teabag Party has planned to better the lives of average Americans.
Or not.
Jeff,
Maybe you'll find a study that shows more people won't become unemployed or that unemployment won't last longer because of unemployment insurance? Not a single one of you have done this yet, and this is a major point you guys/gals fail to address.
No racism in the Tea Party...hah hah hah hah hah!
That's the best one I've heard all day!!! Thanks gogo, I'll pass it on!
Hew is the Pew Research study referenced in the story:
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1190/portrai...
It estimates the illegal workforce at about 170,000 workers in Nevada in 2008. Tell me again, how many unemployed workers do we have now?
LastThroes, please post the link you got those stats from.
As for the Democrats here (especially the civil ones), would any of you like to defend Reid's statement that there are no illegal construction workers in Las Vegas? 8 News Now gave references that were easy to verify, as you can see.
If nothing else, some of you know that I will answer when challenged to defend my views, now it's your turn. :)
Harry Reid voted to confirm Eric Holder as ATTORNEY GENERAL
Obama and Reid are killing our economy.
Obama is killing the national economy while Reid is killing our local economy.
REID is going to vote for amnesty after the election
REID=OBAMA
I'm voting for Sharron Angle
One cannot carry on an intellectual debate with one that uses misinformation and then more misinformation to try and prove their original misinformation.
We are still waiting for the NPRI to post a list of 120,000 jobs for the 120,000 unemployed Nevadans.
The studies that Gibbons comes up with are funded by people who inherited great wealth and are against government safety and environmental laws: Koch, Coors, Richard Mellon Scathe, ET Al.
Why would someone making $1000-$2000 a week working want to hang out on unemployment of $400 a week?
Many Countries with lower unemployment (e.g. Australia 5%) have unemployment that lasts longer than that of the USA. By the twisted logic of the "study" one would expect these countries to have higher unemployment, as the deadbeats would never want to go back to work.
Even "Hobos" Dean Heller voted for the extension because he said that many small business owners, landlords, retail, car lots, etc. were being hurt.
Reid knows the facts and he does not care.
This is whats going to happen Dems loose the house and Rep win.The house is in such a mess
nothing will work,(just like every president)Why?
Why do the tax payers have to clean up the mess the house makes.
gogowhitesox
We the tax payers are the morons for putting up with this Sh??.
Maybe we should take back there pay for leaving the house a mess.
The Republicans did thier Trickle Down economics during Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2, and guess what, all the middle and low classes got was warm, yellow liquid on their heads. Taxes are at historic lows for the rich to "promote business" Well guess what, they took their money and bought factories in China, further worsening the jobs prospects for workers.
Put money in the hands of the common man, and he buys goods and services that stimulate the local economy. Put money in the hands of the rich, and it buys businesses in other countries. That's the truth of Bush I's "New World Order".
The reactionary NPRI tax proposal would make working poor people pay a tax on a doctor visit for their child, but give a person buying a million dollar imported yacht a tax break of $50,000 dollars.
Some of the unemployment dollars go back to the government as well. Car registration, back and future taxes, student loan loans, and so on.
Excellent job at shooting down the phony study, SUN.
NPRI has no credibility til the list of 120,000 jobs is posted. List please?
Mred,
I also cite studies done by Harvard, Princeton, Chicago, the Center for American Progress, OECD, and Obama's economic advisor... the fact is, you'd complain about anything that doesn't square with your preset dogma about the world.
As for the NPRI tax study, it reduces taxes on all sorts of goods low-income people would pay for and provides a tax rebate, so in effect people up to the poverty line would pay no sales taxes at all.
Could you try any harder to mislead people?
I've got 4 academic studies on unemployment benefits and its relationship to unemployment and the duration of unemployment, including one study done by a Harvard professor the Las Vegas Sun editorial board cites here: http://www.writeonnevada.com/2010/07/let...
What do you have?
Patrick,
There is little doubt that when you get unemployment compensation you are able to be a LOT more selective with regard to choosing a job.
That is one of the benefits one receives for being an American. If you would like to allow people who employ at a much lower rate of pay than their current bills allow freedom to take time off their new, underpaying job to apply for better paying jobs without penalty and the assurance they will not be terminated or be treated as second class employees we can maybe talk.
There is the second problem that you and I have both encountered -- that is, a person who has earned 6 figures wanting a 20k or so job. I am not going to hire and train him. He or she is gone like the wind in an instant once one of their pals clears a slot.
Your studies as usual tell a story, but not the truth.
http://joblessunite.yolasite.com/
"Most states provide up to 26 weeks of jobless benefits for qualified workers. Then the worst recession since the Great Depression forced Congress to step in and pay for extended coverage. Twenty-seven states and the District of Columbia now provide a maximum of 99 weeks, while other states offer from 60 to 93 weeks.
The beefed-up benefits are unprecedented in the history of the unemployment insurance program and have helped millions such as Nieves survive the recession and keep roofs over their heads.
With a projected $1.5 trillion federal deficit looming this year, though, lawmakers from both parties are resisting costly and politically unpopular appeals to extend benefits.
While that could change quickly in an election year, Senate Finance Committee chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., who supported previous extensions, told Bloomberg News Service last week that 99 weeks is enough.
That didn't sit well with Mignon Veasley-Fields, a 61-year-old former charter school administrator from Los Angeles.
"Ninety-nine weeks is sufficient? I paid into unemployment for almost 40 years of my life. How dare he (Baucus) say that. This is what hurts," Veasley-Fields said, fighting back tears. "He has no clue what it's like to have to spend money on groceries and then pray that the utility company will give you an extension so that you'll have lights."
When she hits her 99-week limit at the end of the month, Veasley-Fields will join more than 100,000 "99ers" in California who've also maxed out their benefits."
Yeah Pat, you and your pals are the unemployed's best pals.
Shut up googoo
Notice that there has not been a comment on my post about the Republican "Trickle Down Theory"
When all else fails, a cubic yard of concrete and a boat wide would suffice.
Trickle down my arse, you liberal nutcases have sucked your trickle for too many years. Show me a liberal program that has produced tangible results?
Welfare
Medicaid
Medical
Unemployment
Disadvantaged Business Enterprise
8a set a side
Affirmative Action
Food Stamps
The list goes on and on and the cost to Americans that pay into the system is trillions upon trillions and what do we have to show for all the money spent, Obama. I can surely think of better ways to spend the trillions upon trillions that have produced nothing positive for America as a whole. You tout Obama being your golden child. He is an idiot and he's proven just that.
Instead you liberals want to suck more from the system and whine and complain about what we're not giving your no good for nothing lazy pathetic life, we don't care. Trickle on somebody else somewhere else, we're done giving and frankly we don't care about you anymore. Crawl back in your closets where you belong and do what you do best, nothing or each other.
I know, its terrible that some of these programs have kept people ALIVE!! God Forbid! You rabid Republicans would want to turn them into Soylent Green.
The Japanese culture considers suicide an honorable solution for failure, as did the Romans.
Maybe we should re-examine this and other Roman practices since we have entered our own era of "bread and circuses".
Alive my arse, it's enabled you and them to continue to sit around and suck off the system. Quite frankly, you bet, let them disappear or dissolve away. We'll spin it to what you liberals use, America's newest and greatest program ever, Americas Stimulus Package -- Race Neutral - 100% of America benefits, not the selective liberal gene voting pool. Liberals are a pathetic excuse of a human being as I see it that has no value or right to co-exist amongst Americans.
Many thanks to the writer of this editorial "Let Them Eat Cake" and to my fellow Nevadans that have empathy for those who are unemployed.
The posts of the boot licking bloggers that support the radical extremist "pretend to be" republicans are telling the Nevada citizens that they do not count.
Many NV citizens are becoming incensed that the party of "No" and "Obstruction" are using Goebbels "Big Lie" propaganda on them.
Yeah goo goo
Those darn unions are starving the unemployed.
We knew it all along, you caught us. We are soooooo sorry.
Empathy, what a joke. These so called unemployed can go pick the farmers fields if they so elected to look for work. They just choose to sit around and do nothing. They don't want to leave the community they live in; they demand more yet do nothing to help themselves. Below is a list of jobs anyone can do to earn an income and they are hiring everyday.
Wash Cars
Gas Station Attendent
7-11
Arco AM/PM
Deliver newspapers
Trash collector
Debt collector
Tele-Marketing
Sales Positions
Farm Worker
Crop picker
The list goes on and on and on and they still insist that they can't find a job. They're too damn lazy and too damn picky to work or they make excuses why they can't work. The liberal gig is up and we're not going to stand by and let you nutcase lunatics suck more from us. You can go suck on something else and it won't be my money or me.
For anyone to say they can't earn $500.00 a week on their own is too damn lazy and wants nothing more than others to feel sorry for lazy pathetic life styles, poor me -- poor me -- poor me. The poor me syndrome or you owe me to put simply is just another example of what liberals want us to pay for. We don't care, if there is something said that isn't clear, by all means, ask.
And if you have doubt about people working and how easy it is to get a job, look at teamster and the rest of the truck drivers in America.
Many of the truck drivers of today are about the dumbest of the dumb yet they drive a truck. Most don't speak English these days; they're from India or some other country that wears turbans or from Mexico, take your pick. It is still a job and it pays.
Another example is Obama, blacks can no longer use the race card why they can't get a job or succeed. Obama is black and Obama was elected into office, though he is about the dumbest president ever, excluding Jimmy Carter, he is still elected into office and we're going to pay is arse $400k a year for life.
Jeff,
The truth is, the policy has increased unemployment and the duration of unemployment. Just look:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oHKds8gsAEk/TD...
Nationwide there is one job for every 5-6 people looking for a job. That figure is more for NV with 14% unemployment.
There are 180,000 NV citizens that are unemployed. If all the available jobs were filled that would still leave 149,940 without jobs.
hey gibbie the clown...
you never answered the question bozo...
what is that hypothetical dad whose benefits are about to expire and who has just become homeless supposed to tell his kids???
hmmm???
tax cuts for the rich!!!
tax cuts for big oil!!!
tax cuts for wall street!!!
that's the only way to solve the unemployment problem...
tax cuts for the rich!!!
tax cuts for big oil!!!
tax cuts for wall street!!!
6/09/10: Angle 50 Reid 39
Angle +11
6/22/10: Angle 48 Reid 41
Angle +7
7/12/10: Angle 46 Reid 43
Angle +3
An 8 point swing in Reid's favor IN A MONTH! The race is now within the margin of error!
Lady GoGo's crying in her Wheaties!
Someone keep Sharron talking to the press!
Only Lady GoGo could spin an 8 point swing against her candidate as a GOOD thing.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt, it's Lady GoGo's state of mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czer...
I love reading your liberal posts, just proves a point. America is screwed and will continue to be screwed by you free loading no good for nothing lazy people.
When you choose to wake and up and look in the mirror and accept your responsibility for your choices and stop looking at us who choose to work and support your lazy no good for nothing lazy pathetic choices, America will heal. Until then, Americans who work are done paying for your lazy pathetic lifestyles.
In other words, you are worthless to most, you have no use, do us a favor, end it now. We don't care how, just end the misery you choose for you, we don't care. You are burden on society and you are a burden on your family, get a job and stop relying on others for your choices. You are worthless!
6/09/10: Angle 50 Reid 39
Angle +11
6/22/10: Angle 48 Reid 41
Angle +7
7/12/10: Angle 46 Reid 43
Angle +3
Meanwhile, Sharron made ANOTHER bizarre and MORBID statement today, saying that Bob Bennet had "outlived his usefulness."
Sharron's got plenty of press... ALL OF IT BAD, and her numbers are steadily plunging. She loses 4 points in the polls and Harry gains 4 points in the polls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hbvfn96w...
The real freeloaders in American society are the "pretend to be" republicans that dramatically increased the National Debt by borrowing and then greasing the palms of their criminal business cronies through no bid and inflated contracts in Iraq, Afghanistan, and in the privatization of "Our" government.
The real freeloaders are the party of "No" and constant "Obstruction" that collect their salaries and benefits in Congress but will do absolutely nothing to help mend the damage they have done to the USA.
The real freeloaders are the party of deregulation that caused the death of 29 miners at the Massey Coal Company in WV.
The real freeloaders are the party of deregulation that set the stage for the largest oil spill in America's history by BP in the Gulf that killed 11 rig workers, and is spilling the equivalent of the Exxon Valdez oil spill every five days.
The real freeloaders are the warmongers and the War profiteers that actively seek and support a "forever" war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The real freeloaders are the blatant propagandists that post lies after lies on the blogs trying to brainwash the American citizens.
ksand99....It isn't hard to find people that like Harry Reid on MSNBC. That is the home of the Big Sippers.
We will see, in November, the results of the voters like for Senator Harry Reid and the dislike of Sharron Dubya Angle.
No Jobs because of Harry and Obummer. the tax and spend people have made every employer afraid to hire because the new taxes to pay for ObummerCare are just now starting to come out.
Stop taxing the business owners and they may be able to hire.
If you really want UE, Take the billions of the TARP fund being held hostage by Obummer to help Harry and other troubled Dems, and apply that towards UE
This "oh look, I am down int he polls, here's some temporary union jobs I found sitting around my office funded by TARP - as I chased away smelly tourist" is not how it should be done
They are saving that leftover stimulus money to buy the election in 2012.
And still 18 hrs later-NOT ONE WORD OF PRAISE FOR ANGLE. Absolutely unbelievable not one of you baggers defend her-you voted her in over Tark? Wheres the love? I don't you can pull this off with no one actually supporting her. Votes from hate will not carry the day in November.
Teabaggers bitching about taxes at the exact same time their taxes were lowered by the stimulus bill. Actually wanting the government to fail and for us to go into a real depression rather than bailing out companies. (What do you think the Bloods@Crips and Mexican Mafia and the Ayrians, skinheads, would have done in a real depression? Think they would go hungry like people in the 30's? Stand nicely in soup lines? Or would they have cruised on out to Clark County or Green Valley or the lakes to see what they could find?)
If you voted for Bush twice and then voted McCain/Palin, you should lose your citizenship. We could then award it to a deserving immigrant who might actually pay attention!
Americans didn't want the bail-outs? which Americans were those? the 5 million who would have lost their jobs if we didn't bail out the auto industry? Or the 100 million or so who would have lost EVERYTHING if we would have let Wall Street fail? If we would not have done the bailouts-and went into another 1930's type depression-where do you think the Bloods and Crips would be right now? Think they'd be standing nicely in a soup line? I don't problem with conservative free-market ideas-but don't you ever consider the consequences of where we would be without the bailouts? It was not WWII that ended that depression-it was the spending the government did to fight the war that ended the depression. It was conservative free-market guys who did the 1st bailout under Bush if you remember-where was the teaparty? When Bush ran up 11 trillion in deficits? Where was the teaparty then? The Neo-conservatives under Bush hated big government so much they "wanted to drown it in a bathtub" and they just about succeeded. What they couldn't deregulate they staffed with incompetents like Browny. I know that you know why the President hasn't done more than he has-Right now if the Democrats proposed a bill requiring us to like puppies and kittens-the GOP would oppose it.
I have asked repeatedly for a GOOD reason to vote for Angle. I have yet to see one, only hate speech and ad hominem, attacks. I don't really like Reid all that much,but I don't ignore the things he has done for Nevada. When the baggers tell me that Marxist/communist/socialist's (as if they are the same thing) are taking over and coming for our guns, I tend to be a tad bit skeptical. How many of you baggers would look your raped and impregnated daughter in the eye and tell her to "make lemonade from lemons"?
Reading the posts here, most are slow, dumb, and lazy. Get off your lazy arse and get a job. You voted for Obama, accept the fact he is stupid. He is a black man that has had everything given to him and never accepted the fact he had or earn or work for a living in. Obama is a disgrace to America, live with it!
24 hours now and no praise for Angle. You baggers really support your candidate well! hahaha. AND thanks to the last couple of posts-you've proven to be the racist we think you are.
All of us who - -think- -have to remain vigilante. We let the baggers gain power last summer because they were the LOUDEST. Period. Maybe because we had won an election by a landslide, or maybe we believed the neocon's would die a quiet death since all of America could have plainly seen by then, what their policies had done to America. Even the baggers knew that we HAD to do something about the health insurance companies raping us; but there they were with their cute little revolutionary outfits on, screaming about socialism; giving us such memorable quotes as: "Keep the government out of VA hospitals" "Leave Medicare alone-we don't government health-care"; and they gained enough power to give us these great candidates such as Angle and Rand. I keep watching for ONE comment that actually praise's Angle from the teaparty and have Yet to see one. All they say is "anyone but Reid". I guess they are chocking on their lemonade? NOT ONE WORD IN PRAISE OF ANGLE OR HER IDEAS! Did I miss a post? I'm SURE someone must like her? or think she has a clue? But all I've read is negative drivel that reads like something a white supremacist religious organization would publish. Those of you repulsed by Angle- Hang in there-we can't let the baggers win the stage again, because they are loud.
Teaparty people live up to American Ideals about as well as they live up to Christian Ideals. Except for all the stuff about loving your neighbor and not throwing stones, and love and compassion for their fellow man -except for that stuff they're all for getting into heaven. And except for a woman's rights, and civil rights, and gay rights, and the right of EVERY AMERICAN TO GET MEDICAL CARE they are all for American ideals too.
So if not unemployment benefits then welfare - so tell me, just WHERE does the State wind up saving any money?
here is your chance to put a illegal immigrant out of work www.takeourjobs.org
hey nit,
we haven't really needed sex for quite awhile now. Djever hear of test tubes?
what's not to get, bro?
Test tubes eliminate the need for this sex thing, all except that ole internal drive thing.
Never was a fool; can't help it if folks is dum.
i'm translated and published.
2 centuries and goin strong.
woooo hoooo
"The core of the problem: to eliminate the need for sex ..."
You nailed it. You hit IT right on its pointy little head.
Rightists have been the butt (pun intended) of sex jokes for ...well, forever. So what we're seeing now is a climax of frustration after years and years of rightists ineptness in bed played out on the political stage. Rightists are just sexually frustrated, that's all. They've always had a problem with people (usually Liberals) who get more of it, or worse, get it all the time. And, to add insult to the injury, Liberals talk like they know what to do with it when they've got it! And they talk openly about it, completely ignoring the codes of moral decency passed on by our Founding Fathers.
But rightists need not worry one teeny-weeny bit. Sharron Angle is going to demonstrate a whole new way of putting it to lazy sinner libs who don't have a job, and never make lemonade after having sex all day. Now we know what she meant when she said, "Help is on the way."
You must be so relieved.
to funny!
Hurray for some of these posts! Sometimes you watch and read the news and think that the right wing who became media "darling's", much as a plane crash does, might actually pull the election off. It is so heartening to know that you are not the ONLY person left that thinks the American Dream is about more than taxes.
Sometimes I wonder just where the teaparty came from? Were they -ALL- ABSENT THE DAY THAT WE LEARNED THAT--WE-- ARE THE GOVERNMENT, in our history and civics class?
You can call me a romantic liberal if you must-but; This election, as the last Presidential election, goes deeper than economics.-it goes to the heart of the American Ideal. I don't think the right-wing will ever understand that Ideal either.
It's what made women speechless and made grow men(tough guys) weep during the Inauguration. It's about rights FOR ALL-gay's and women and African Americans and immigrants and The Sick, and the helpless and the unemployed and EVERYBODY in this great country.Either we Hold The Torch High or we don't.
Either America takes care of it's needy, it's sick,it's homeless,it's victims of disasters, or we don't.
This election isn't about taxes or how much of the stimulus money Reid got for Nevada-It's about core principles.
People or corporations.
Greed or compassion.
America has not-maybe will never live up to her Ideals-But we ought not to ever stop striving to reach them!
Enough idealism-lets go to bat:
235 comments in almost 36 hours and STILL no one with praise for Angle? There just ain't enough hate in the people of Nevada for her to prevail.
I mean besides the fact that not liking someone, is NOT a reason to vote for their opponent.
Are the rats leaving the boat after all her brilliant statements?
Hard to defend someone who thinks your Grandma's social security is "welfare" isn't it? Or your's for that matter-you did pay in after-all.
(hold on, it's hard to read the words on my palm)OK got it.
Hard to watch the oil spill and think we owe BP an apology isn't it? How's that slushy fund,drilly thing working for ya?
When you look at your wives and daughters do you ever think about what it might be like to tell them-this is after they have ALREADY been brutalized, that they'll just have to make lemonade from the lemons that God gave them?
Thanks for the great choice teaparty-Harry wants to thank you too. If I was Reid's campaign manager I'd sponsor every speaking engagement for Angle that I could.
There is a huge difference between providing opportunities Renostarman and entitlement. It seems you favor rampant entitlement and enabling for those unwilling to actually earn their way.
What used to be a great country has degenerated into a bunch of tattooed Ed Hardy clones with piercings in every possible orifice. Twenty somethings who think it's acceptable to come to a job interview with jeans sagging to their knees, and a society that is so enamored with their cell phones they seemingly can't stop texting or talking on their bluetooths for ten seconds.
It used to be hard work, patience and sacrifice that enabled a person to succeed. Now it seems liberals would have you believe it is impossible unless every last job has been created and funded by government, rather then private industry.
As for praise for Angle, I'd rather wait to see how she performs. Talk is cheap. However, it's abundantly clear Harry Reid is completely ineffectual as a leader. Time for a change.
Yes you are right anchor-And before this country busted the unions out at let corporations dictate both our foreign and domestic policies-before we let the lobbyists and corporations actually write the legislation for themselves-as the pharmaceutical companies did, One man could go to work and support his family on that income.My father, and all my friends fathers worked and made enough to support their families. It wasn't that long ago either-the 70's. It's the righties who think the unions are terrible, and they(the unions) set the wages and built the middle class in this country. You don't want health-care you don't want prenatal care you don't want day-care, you don't want to fund our schools; then you are upset with the product(our children) that you have produced? You righties have no problem funding prisons or wars though do you? It's like the old Fram filter commercial-you can pay now or you can pay later.
We left leaning types are so naive as to think it might be better to build schools than prisons.
Frankly I have been surprised that the GOP hasn't proposed putting children back to work in the sweat shops. Then you would have Peon class you've been trying so hard to achieve ever since Reagan fired the air controllers.
You are creating unemployment monsters if you continue unemployment benefits beyond 99 weeks. When does it stop? 500 weeks. Forever? It is not being heartless it is a matter of what we can afford. We just cannot afford to support long terms of unemployment. I am not going to work 60 hours a week just so bozo can sit at a sports book and drink beer all day. You kill any incentive if you allow this to happen. It is not being heartless it is being practical.
NVFisherman,
There is really only one solution that will be acceptable to you: the unemployed will just have to leave the state; which will produce more unemployment, more foreclosures, more empty homes and commercial buildings, more bankruptcy filings, more crime, more of less of everything we need to survive and thrive as a community and civilized society.
But at least you won't have to look at Bozo down at the end of the bar drinking his beer all day, because you will be drinking alone.
Seriously, why don't you get it?
If they don't have jobs and they don't have money how should they eat cake? Normally it is considered celebration food.
Is it the left over cake tossed in the trash from your celebration of pocketing more money for yourselves?
I want some cake. =(
gogowhitesox is so typical of new repubs, hate anyone thats not rich. repubs have turned this country into a disgrace of hate this one, hate that one. keep the mexicans, deport these unpatriotic republicans.
Celeritas, the unemployed that can't find jobs over a 52 week period should leave the state. How many of our unemployed are construction workers who came here during the boom?
Clearly that industry has evaporated here in Las Vegas at the moment, and somebody with skills in that industry should be looking to a state where construction is thriving, or at least where employments opportunities aren't nearly impossible.
I have no doubt our economy will turn around at some point, but hard decisions need to be made that don't include lifetime unemployment benefits.
Anchorbine, My husband was one of the construction workers that was already in town before and after the boom. As where I clearly agree that after that amount of time they should leave for different states if they want to continue that profession, but sometimes things make it impossible to leave.
Instead of waiting for work to come while collecting unemployment, take on a different profession. It might be a lot less pay but it is still pay.
Construction crashed 2 1/2 years ago and at that time my husband and his other construction friends took on new employment under new professions with drastic pay cuts.
It isn't about leaving it is about trying hard enough and opening your horizons to keep yourself employed.
To everyone it might be hard but you all can do it. Keep your heads held high, Group together with friends and family. You will all make it through this.
Then we can all have some cake. :)
God Bless