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Gibbons rejects lawmakers’ demand to participate in budget review
Published Friday, July 2, 2010 | 2:58 p.m.
Updated Friday, July 2, 2010 | 6:18 p.m.
Gov. Jim Gibbons told legislative leaders today that his executive staff would not be participating in their budget hearings despite the Legislature's threats of subpoenas and imprisonment last week.
"This is not my first dance!" Gibbons wrote in a letter to Republican and Democratic leadership, where he pointed out his experience as a Nevada Assemblyman and U.S. Representative. He attached a copy of portions of the Nevada Constitution.
He also called Legislative efforts to examine executive budgets a "witch hunt."
The Legislature's Interim Finance Committee re-started the "Committee for Fundamental Review of Base Budgets of Agencies" to drill down to a deeper level on some agencies' spending.
The committee decided to examine the state's building lease programs, the parole and probation division, the housing division and Medicaid fraud. Gibbons resisted the effort, saying it wasted state employees' time, duplicated the executive branch's budget process and exceeded lawmakers' authority.
Last week, in a letter signed by Republican and Democratic leadership, the lawmakers pointed out they had subpoena powers.
Today's letter says definitively that executive branch employees that had been asked to attend next Wednesday's meeting would not. Gibbons also called their requests for information on certain budgets a "witch hunt." He said certain budget divisions were being singled out for political reasons. He accused Senate Majority Leader Steven Horsford of having a conflict of interest in negotiations over training programs because he works for a union training company.
Horsford, who is chief executive officer at the Culinary Training Academy, called the attack on him by Gibbons "baseless."
He said the Culinary Training Academy is a nonprofit that is a joint venture by management and labor. He said it specifically trains workers for the hospitality industry.
"The Culinary Training Academy has absolutely nothing to do with the weatherization program," he said. "For them to say otherwise is flat-out wrong and unfounded."
He also sits as an unpaid board member of the nonprofit Nevada Partners, which does general training of workers. But, he said, Nevada Partners also has no role in the weatherization program.
He said if someone believes there's a conflict, they could file a complaint.
"I'm open to that as every other elected official is," he said.
This interim budget committee is specifically allowed by a law passed in 1995, he said. He challenged the governor and his staff to make state agencies available as a transparency measure.
Assemblywoman Debbie Smith, D-Sparks, who sits on the budget review committee, said the meeting would go on as scheduled. "We will continue without the information they provided," she said. No decision has been made about whether to issue subpoenas.
She denied that departments were singled out for political reasons.
"We wanted to pick agencies that are large, have a lot of money going through them. We picked one agency within one department," she said. "To call it a witch hunt is shocking."
She said there's not enough time when the Legislature is in its biennial 120-day sessions to dig as deep as they'd like.
She noted that the Legislature's budget reviews would be open to the public. Gibbons invited legislators to meet with him "to enlighten me as to how the Interim Finance Committee ... represents a constitutional delegation of legislative power considering that the IFC is not the Legislature as contemplated by the Constitution."
Gibbons has called the Legislature's interim activities unconstitutional, and his staff has said it's contemplating a lawsuit.
Assembly Majority Leader John Oceguera, D-Las Vegas, called the letter "sad."
"I'm disappointed the governor doesn’t want to work together," he said. "I would think this is an issue he'd believe strongly in -- getting to the bottom of all these budgets, looking thoroughly, finding waste, opportunities for consolidation."
He said he didn't expect the Legislature to use its subpoena powers for next week's meeting. But, he said, "In the future, that’s certainly not an idle threat. We will do what we need to do to get that information."
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How long till this clown leaves office? What a poor governor!
The IFC is, and has been, over stepping its authority for some time now. The IMF does not represent the entire legislature and is there only to keep the financial business of the state rolling between legislative sessions; they are essentially an ad hock committee with questionable authority. They seem to think they are a governing body with the power to order the executive branch to do their bidding, however they do not have a constitutional mandate to do so. It's about time to give the IFC a sanity check.
Gibbons not only is doing nothing for Nevada, he is hindering the Legislature from helping solve the budget crisis. The GOP owns this failure of a governor.
And on top of that, the IFC is only a handful of Legislators. So, for instance the district where I live is NOT represented. The IFC is acting completely unconstitutionally. The intent was that they were to help during the interim to make the laws that were already in existence work without calling the Legislature back into a Special Session. Instead, they have taken it upon themselves to MAKE LAW. They can't do that. And you idiots that don't pay attention and can do nothing but slam the Governor about issues you know nothing of should educate yourselves first before you open your ignorant mouths. Chances are you also live in one of the districts where your legislator is NOT on the IFC!
He's a republican. What do you expect?
The IFC doesn't have the authority to order Gibbons to do anything! I didn't vote for Gibbons but C'mon people...he is right on this one!
Let's call their bluff.
Let them issuse all subpoenas that they want to.
When they are not in session they have zero Constitutional powers.
The problem is not as "shoppingaround" mentioned, it's always been the lack of cooperation from the governor's office. It has always been a powerplay and not about what really is best for Nevada. If the IFC is unconstitutional, then prove it, improve it, change it. What happened to elected officals being responsible and civic minded. This is a great state with great people who live here. And all we've had to listen to since he was elected is bickering, and an atmosphere of contention. Let's get this great state and country back on track and remember we are all Americans no matter the party.
Nevada would be better off if this nut (Gibbons) would just resign from office and let the Lt. Gov run things until Sandoval takes over. We could not have got a worse person to be our governor when times are the hardest we have seen in years. Gibbons has failed to show any level of competence as governor of our state!
People, please for one second clear your heads. This is not an issue of the Govenor, this is not an issue of wether or not you like, dislike, voted for or did not vote for Gibbons. This is about poloticians way over stepping their legal bounds and limits. Period. These are the very same issues we are seeing happen at all levels of Government now days, especially in the Federal Government. We all need to quit sitting around in our comfortable little lives, allowing our Country to be overtaken. We need to all stand together and demand back our Nation, under God and begin to once again be a Nation by the People for the People. We are loosing it here and all you guys want to do is bash Gibbons. They are fleecing you right in front of your face but hey you have 200 plus channels on the tube and the unemployment benefits haven't run out yet. I fought in two wars for this Country and I am saddened to see how fuc--d up it is. Shame on all of you, I fought and lost close friends and watched men die to give you the very freedom you are taking for granted. The fight needs not be against each other yet against the crooks in office raping our liberties and freedoms and abolishing the Constitution. Amen
I don't give a rat's you-know-what whether the IFC actually has the authority or not to demand the information. What disturbs me is that the leader of the state refuses to LET the team of people he works with, and the citizens of the state of Nevada have a look at information that we are entitled to see. Gibbons is such a sleazebag of an individual that I wouldn't allow him to clean my toilets for fear of the germs he'd leave behind.
Like Governor Gibbons or not he did everything to prevent tax increases, his vetos were overturned. Senator Horsford and Speaker Buckley both spend and tax Democrat progressives along with a dumb Republican named Senator Raggio pushed through tax increases. This during a recession at a time when people were losing their homes, jobs and lives. The IFC violates the Nevada State Constitution and the governor will not just fade away and let the Progressives continue to ruin our state.
Come on people, Gibbons is done at the end of the year and he's going to go out with a bang. Did anyone get their registration renewal yet? Notice the difference in cost from last year? Remember Gibbon's veto'd that tax. Anyway, we should care about more important things like the Senate race. Remember if Ensign should resign before the end of the year, Gibbons can appoint himself Senator. Wouldn't everyone be happy then? Andby the way, do you think Horseford would spend time on this issue if there was nothing in it for the union? The guy who parks in the handicapped spot has little credibility with me.
I don't believe it's an issue about sharing information that's already developed and readily accessible, as much as it is about the Legislative staff's constant desire to want to order the Executive staff to develop numbers and information to their liking. Let's be honest, it's not the legislators who do this, it's their staff working thru them.
With furloughs, hiring freezes, etc. all executive branch agencies are stretched to the limit to get the day to day work accomplished. The LCBs desire to dump unnecessary work and requests on them simply distracts everyone from providing the services they're supposed to provide, so the LCB folks can pretend they're in charge!
This isn't about working together to solve problems... it's a power struggle pure and simple with a weakened Governor. Good for him for reminding the Legislature about their role in this process.
The hypocrisy of the Governor's actions is not lost on me. The Governor frequently trumpets his role as the supreme head of the Executive Branch, responsible for seeing that the laws of the State of Nevada are faithfully executed, but then he orders employees of the Executive Branch to disregard and violate those very laws. The Governor likes to remind the Legislature about the importance of the Separation of Powers Clause, but then he usurps the powers of the Judicial Branch by taking it upon himself to declare a statute to be unconstitutional.
If the Governor believes that the IFC or another interim legislative committee is unconstitutional, then he can initiate litigation to prove that belief. Unless the Judicial Branch agrees with his belief, his constitutional duty is to follow the law and to ensure that the Executive Branch follows the law.
G-Dawg, if you have nothing to hide, whip the budget out and if they find nothing wrong, then tell them: IN YOUR FACE!!!!!
You've gotta love a politician with the nerve to stand up and say "No!". Thanks, Governor - hang tough!