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Massachusetts State Sen. Scott Brown, R-Wrentham, waves to supporters after voting in Wrentham, Mass., Tuesday, Jan. 19, 2010.
Published Tuesday, Jan. 19, 2010 | 5:56 p.m.
Updated Tuesday, Jan. 19, 2010 | 7:20 p.m.
Massachusetts Attorney General Martha Coakley, a Democrat, campaigns with her husband Thomas O'Connor, right, in New Bedford, Mass., Tuesday, Jan. 19, 2010.
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- Tight Massachusetts race threatens Obama’s agenda, Harry Reid’s political future (1-19-10)
- Still on Reid’s side: Friends — and juice for Nevada (1-13-09)
- Harry Reid back at White House for health care talks (1-15-10)
- Can Harry Reid keep 60 Democrats? Analyst not so sure (1-14-10)
- Harry Reid, Obama negotiate health bill at White House (1-13-10)
- ‘Tea Party’ set turns out in Las Vegas at its anti-Harry Reid finest (1-13-10)
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In an epic upset in liberal Massachusetts, Republican Scott Brown rode a wave of voter anger to defeat Democrat Martha Coakley in a U.S. Senate election Tuesday that left President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul in doubt and marred the end of his first year in office.
The loss by the once-favored Coakley for the seat that the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy held for nearly half a century signaled big political problems for the president’s party this fall when House, Senate and gubernatorial candidates are on the ballot nationwide.
Brown will become the 41st Republican in the 100-member Senate, which could allow the GOP to block the president’s health care legislation and the rest of Obama’s agenda. Democrats needed Coakley to win for a 60th vote to thwart Republican filibusters.
Obama spoke to both candidates late Tuesday and congratulated Brown on a "well-run campaign," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said.
"The President told Senator Brown that he looks forward to working with him on the urgent economic challenges facing Massachusetts families and struggling families across our nation," Gibbs said.
Sue Lowden and Danny Tarkanian, the two leading Republicans seeking to oust Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in November, were quick to congratulate Brown.
"His win – in one of the most Democrat-dominant states in the union – demonstrates how far out of touch, controversial and unpopular Harry Reid’s policies of higher taxes, higher debt and higher unemployment are for the nation," Lowden said in a statement. "This is an historic victory for real, common-sense solutions and yet another resounding wake-up call to Harry Reid. We can only wonder if he will finally decide to listen."
Tarkanian said, "Tonight, the people of Massachusetts have spoken for the people of America, including the grassroots voters of Nevada right here: No more bailouts. No more reckless spending. No more socialized health care. We're taking our country back."
Nevada Republican Party Chairman Chris Comfort will hold a conference call to discuss the special election and its implications for the 2010 midterm elections tomorrow.
Reid, meanwhile, welcomed Brown to the Senate in a statement released Tuesday night.
“While Senator-elect Brown’s victory changes the political math in the Senate, we remain committed to strengthening our economy, creating good paying jobs and ensuring all Americans can access affordable health care. We hope that Scott Brown will join us in these efforts," Reid said. "There is much work to do to address the problems Democrats inherited last year, and we plan to move full speed ahead."
Nevada Democrats were dialing for votes in the campaign to save Coakley, calling more than 52,000 Massachusetts residents in a get-out-the-vote effort to prevent a defeat that could imperil the Obama agenda.
Nevadans have been calling from party headquarters in Reno and Las Vegas, even their homes, since Friday, after receiving a plea of help to keep the seat held by the late Sen. Edward Kennedy out of Republican hands.
Coakley has been criticized for running a poor campaign for the seat many experts assumed would remain Democratic, and even top White House advisor David Axelrod admitted Tuesday that Scott Brown, the Republican state senator, had run a "very, very good campaign, a very clever campaign."
Meanwhile, congressional Democrats worked behind closed doors to salvage the health care bill, Obama’s top domestic priority and the signature issue for this Congress .
Without a 60-seat Democratic majority in the Senate, the bill can be blocked by Republican opponents – essentially dooming the bill Democrats have invested more than six months fighting to pass, as elected officials in Nevada and elsewhere face their own re-elections in fall.
"Our eye is on the ball of passing legislation," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Tuesday afternoon.
"Whatever happens in Massachusetts, we will have quality, affordable health care for all Americans -- and it will be soon."
Pelosi and Reid conferred briefly this afternoon in the Nevadan’s leadership office off the Senate floor before Reid headed to the White House for a meeting on other issues.
With Brown's win, options for Democrats to pass health care without Coakley are not pretty, dividing lawmakers as they try to choose the best of several unattractive options.
Rather than crafting a final bill that both chambers could agree to, one option would be to have the House simply pass the Senate’s bill, which would bring a swift resolution. Changes could be made later to resolve outstanding budgetary differences – particularly on tax issues that divide the two chambers -- via the reconciliation process that only requires 51 votes.
However, House Democrats balked at being asked to pass the Senate bill that contains various provisions they oppose.
Yet House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer suggested Tuesday that it "would be better than nothing," according to the Wall Street Journal and other reports.
Republicans are gearing up for a fight if Democrats try to pass a bill through both chambers before Brown can be seated.
"It’s clear that jamming this government takeover of health care through Congress will set off a political firestorm," said a spokesman for House Minority Leader John Boehner, the Republican from Ohio.
Obama campaigned in Massachusetts in an 11th-hour bid to prop up the ailing Coakley campaign. Axelrod, in a briefing on Tuesday with regional reporters, said "The White House did everything we were asked to do. Had we been asked earlier we would have certainly responded earlier."
Axelrod, however, declined to see the national mood souring for Democrats heading into fall, saying he believed the Democratic message that sent Obama to the White House still resonates with voters.
"I think there’s an awful lot of anxiety among middle-class Americans – it’s not exactly a revelation to us – it’s the reason we’re here," Axelrod said.
"People felt they weren’t being heard, felt their concerns were not the concerns of people here in Washington," he said.
"It is not enough to drive a truck if the truck isn’t headed in the right direction," he said. "It is not enough to articulate that anger and then come here to Washington and stand with the insurance companies, stand with the financial industry, stand with the special interests to maintain the status quo. That’s basically what the posture of the Republican Party here in Washington has been. We’re happy to have that debate."
Sun reporter Michael Mishak and the Associated Press contributed to this report.
BIG wakeup surprise Healthcare reformers.. Of coursr the Dems are already crying foul in some precincts of voting irregularities let the insanity begin..
Democrats.....this is not a teaching moment.
REPEAT...this is not a teaching moment.
Please proceed with your regular consumption of the koolaid.
Everything is A-OK.
You will be fine.
This is not a indication of anything wrong.
REPEAT...this is not a teaching moment.
Please proceed with your regular consumption of the koolaid.
Oh no! Democrats go from having an 18 seat lead to a 17 seat lead in the Senate!
Can't wait for the teabaggers to realize who they've elected to the Senate. Congrats, Tea Bag Nation, for electing another dyed-in-the-wool republican to the Senate.
When will you learn?
Kevin: Oh, about ten light years before you liberals do. Get ready for the Tsunami.
Oh no, now Harry has to start bribing senators on the other side of the fence as well as the ones on his own...what is this world coming to...lol
Reid, you're next to go. HAHAHAHA
The Dems. had a year to get something done and all they could do for their democratic constituents was to piss them off. That's no way to run a party!
This really is a seminal moment in Harry's career. I just saw that Brown (R) won in Mass. Harry is nuts to want to run for re-election-he's 70 and starting to go daffy. The Repubs have lousy candidates for 2010, like the beauty queen and the cheating BBall coach's kid. So there is still time.
I'm a drooling liberal, but give somebody else a chance, Harry-you're Searchlight toast in Nov 2010.
Mikey, the proof is in the pudding. This guy is just another borrow-and-spend republican.
I thought the teabaggers were supposed to be independent. With this, they've shown just how gullible they are and how they're nothing more than a tool of the republican establishment.
Michael Steele says jump, and the teabaggers can't wait to get their feet off the ground.
That's something most of us have known for awhile, but you guys still aren't clued in.
Here that sound, that's the sound of Ted Kennedy spinning in his grave.
I saw some guy, 5 feet tall and about 300 lbs, on a Fox TV hate-talk show, he was telling some pollster, about how he "didn't want health care shoved down his throat..." He could never get insurance on his own, that's for sure, if he looses his job he's got 18 months of Cobra (if he can afford it) then no one will insure him.
The hate-talkers will name call, smear and lie 24 hours a day across the radio dial, and the "other side" will take the high road and loose. The democrats cut there own throat by voting for the Steve Peace talk radio protection bill. If they are that stupid, they deserve to loose.
OK, citizens of the great state of Nevada. Follow the people of Massachusetts and stop the socialist government in Washington. Vote Sen. Harry Reid into retirement. Thank you.
Goodbye Harry!
Oh no! Democrats go from having an 18 seat lead to a 17 seat lead in the Senate!
Can't wait for the teabaggers to realize who they've elected to the Senate. Congrats, Tea Bag Nation, for electing another dyed-in-the-wool republican to the Senate.
When will you learn?
_________
Some of you liberal knuckleheads just don't get it, this ugly hate isn't playing with voters. Neither is blaming Bush for everything or demoguoging Republicans and issues. Neither is the snotty-nosed, arrogant elitism helping. Calling people "tea-baggers" and Obama mocking people who happen to drive pickups trucks doesn't even play in liberal Massachusetts and won't play in Nevada and won't play anywhere else except maybe San Francisco.
Reid deserves to get voted out. All he's done is kiss up to his Senate colleague, his friend under FBI investigation. If he doesn't have any fire in the belly, let him go back to Searchlight. He and his son will wreck the state for the democrats, and then feather their own nest with their insider friends.
Thank you, Mass.-the only state in the Union, btw, that voted for McGovern!! Gotta go now-Croakley's giving her concession speech!!
I'm sure her loss has nothing to do with rejection of the Marxist agenda of that man occupying the Oval Office, and everything to do with the fact that Brown is "a good-looking centerfold who gained his notoriety that way", to paraphrase Sally Quinn.
Keep it up with the smug insults, Sal. You liberal elites really seem to get it!
Yes, the dream really does live on, doesn't it, Sally?
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Someone should wake up Shovel Ready Harry and give him the bad news.
Listen to Ksand99.
He is absolutely right.
It is just one seat.
Everything is A-OK.
Everything is fine.
We're taking our country back. :)
The professional Republicans are going to receive the next big shock wave because we're not going back to their self-serving, self-dealing way of doing things.
The reason why the Democrats lost tonight because they were not lib enough.
They need to double-down on big government.
That is why Republicans won is because the "real" Democrats stayed home.
If the Democrats passed single-payer then all this would not be happening.
They now need to pass Single Payer via reconiliation.
That will fix everything.
Three things on the checklist tonight:
1. Watching the msnbc pundits spinning this result tonight as only a vote against Coakley, the economy left by Bush, and Republican caused gridlock, oh, and that the health care bill had nothing to do with the vote. Check!
2. Reading LV Sun article tonight in which David Axelrod spins the result tonight as only a vote against Coakley, the economy left by Bush, and Republican caused gridlock, oh, and that the health care bill had nothing to do with the vote. Check!
3. Wondering how the LV Sun Editorial Page will spin the result tomorrow as only a vote against Coakley, the economy left by Bush, and Republican caused gridlock, oh, and that the health care bill had nothing to do with the vote. That is if they don't ignore the election altogether, since it might entail being critical of Obama, Reid, any Democrat, etc. Check!
It's a sad day for the country. Right-wing nuts will gain control of our country and ruining our lives forever.
Hey Barack, are you paying attention now? Can you say "wake-up call"? You campaigned on a "bring the boys home" platform, yet you send more troops. The people are done with your bullying, partisan political agenda. Sorry healthcare reformers, your "plan" is dead in the water. I guess the illegals will be the only ones getting free heath care after all. Here's a thought: show that you can prevent illegal aliens and non-citizens from obtaining free health care and maybe real reform can be discussed. Until then, sorry, I do not support a "single-payer" or any other taxpayer subsidized health care reform. Take that bill and shove it...
ksand99--The following Democratic senators will be voted out this year. Schumer of NY, Spector (traitor) PA, Reid Das Pink NV, Leahy VT, Lincoln AR, Mikulski, MD, Burris IL, Bayh IN, Feingold WS, Plus the the two stiffs that they will put up in CT to replace Dodd, and the N Dakota person. It will be a real joy to see those people out.
The Republicans will take over the House too. Good government will return to The USA. Obama will have to talk to the GOP then and they will educate him just like they did to Clinton in '94
Republican Scott Browns (the 201,000 mile truck driver) defeat of Democrat Martha Coakley for "The People's Seat" Senator from Massachusetts can be laid at the feet of the supercilious TOO BIG TOO FAIL Senator HARRY REID and OBAMA.
Following on the Toxic stew brewed by Democrats over the last year, every jump in the poll was preceded by a non-transparent lobbyist deal in Harry Reid's chamber from Nebraska to the Unions. John Kerry, Vicky Kennedy, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama, and the Democratic machine could not change the impact of Harry Reid's failures in the Senator.
That will put the GOP at 52 Senators. Sanity will return to DC.
Scott Brown is an athlete too. He challenged the President to some one on one.
I think Scott Brown is Presidential timber.
He's only 50 and he is not Pink.
He has a military background also. He is a Colonel in the Army. I can see him running in 2012, maybe 2016.
He has revitalized the country, He has given hope to all thinking people. I predict we will have a holiday named after him.
Currency is falling, "job stimulus" is "stimulating" more layoffs, union workers, government employees, firefighters and police are now among the highest paid professions in the country, and illegals continue to stream across the border and access all the "free" stuff, i.e. stuff that American taxpayers pay for. And this administration wants to add universal(and by universal they really mean it, including non-citizens) health care at the cost of how many more billions? It's over, Johnny. It's over.
Well, Well, Thank you Harry. I hope you know you are out of a job very very soon.
Where is mrability? Too funny!
Who is the looser???
This is unbelievable. I'm 17 and a staunch libertarian and Ron Paul supporter. I've seen my generation and thier few, if any political beliefs are decidedly liberal. But this election gives me hope for mine and America's future. In fact, I have decided to get involved with the Republican campaign against Harry Reid thanks to this election. Thank you Scott Brown!
Hello Harry! Hello Rory! Are you there? Hello! Hello!
Harry! Pack your crap and get to sprucing up that shack in Searchlight! And take that Ferret Face son of yours too. We are DONE with LIBERALS!
The word "giddy" springs to mind.
Folks, you are now looking at the Next President of the United States.
Book it.
Done.
And Conan is on the way out ? Harry, Nancy, Barbara, are on their way, and folks where they land, it ain't gonna be FOX that's for sure!!
Ha, ha, ha!.......Ha, ha, ha! Pretty clear now what the people of the United States want and don't want. Ha, ha, ha! I know it's killing you inside. Ha, ha, ha! You know who you are....ha, ha, ha!
The Democrats are now starting the balme game on why their canidate lost in Mass.First of all they need to blame their policies since they gained full control of the House and senate
One being force feeding healthcare down the American Citizens throat.
Kind of funny First President Obama goes to New Jersey the dems lose Then he goes to Virgina and the Dems lose The he goes to Mass. and the Dems lose
President I personally invite you to Nevada when hHarry reids seat goes to vote Please President Obama come to Nevada We really want Harry reid out of office Will you please help us oust Harry Greed Reid
How Ironic. The very person responsible for shoving this fraudulent health care reform bill down our throat was, in the end, also responsible for destroying it (by dying and putting his seat up for grabs). Yeah, I'm talking about the late, great Senator Kennedy. There really is a god after all.
Needleguy;
Will he run with Sarah? Oh, that would be so marvelous!
A King & Queen! It's like a Beauty Pageant, isn't it??? God, I am sooooo GIDDY!
gmag39:
You betcha!!! (wink wink)
Horrible election outcome for the State of Mass. But, the citizens of Mass who voted made their choice, one which will probably cost them over time.
Special elections are short, and subject to strangeness. Coakley taking a 3 week vacation in December hurt also, see 16 point lead lost. If you are going to run, you have to step up to the plate and hit.
I have the same gut feeling about this election result I had when Carter beat Ford in fall 95, and when Clinton beat Dole, a very good man, though Clinton was doing a pretty good jobm, aside from the personals.
I believe in confidence and optimism, Zogby had Coakley up a point the day prior. Zogby is accurate, impartial, and in this case, missed it.
Brown comes across as a GQ-looking Ned Bundy who uses a pickup for a prop, WHERE have we seen THAT before (?)
For the nation, Capitol Hill math changes little from 40 to 41, because Judas Lieberman was already the 40th "democrat".
Best wishes to Senator Brown, as it is not easy to see how you will represent a state effectively with little experience from a homebase where politics has traditionally run through the Democratic machinery for decades, from Tip O'Neil to Ted Kennedy.
I turned on MSNBC for the first time ever tonight just to see what the liberals had to say. It was called Rachel Maddow and had Chris Mathews on it.(probably the one Rhooster was watching) To watch those two men talk about the election was painful at best. At least the Mathews fellow was trying to rationalize the situation (Loss), Even while being in such a state of agony. The other fellow just seemed to be in a state of agitation and perpetual disbeleif, and at times almost confrontational to the Mathews fellow. I hope this election didn't traumatize these guy's too much, We need them on november.
Gregory is right.
It was a short election.
Everything will be A-OK for Democrats.
No need to worry.
To all Democrats;
You are a bunch of bleeding heart, union supporting liberals. Look at what the UAW has done to Detroit; now look at what the SEIU is doing to Vegas. At one time Unions represented the majority of workers in the U.S., now they represent fewer than 10% of the private sector. Why, because they put business's out of business! Wake up you are a dinosaur, you will be extent soon!!
You will thank Massachusetts when you wake up from your Obama dream.
Were still in control of this country. You RIGHT WING CRY BABIES WILL HAVE TO PUT UP WITH US FOR 3 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dr_Scott,
To the extinct that I might be extent, as these things go and so forth, I have a sneaking hunch
you are putting a little too much stock, if you'll pardon my wall street reference, in one 401k.
I am glad to see all my righty friends on these pages of the Sun in such a state of rapt ecstasy.
Sometimes, those little blue pills have unintended consequences.
DR. Scott
Don't you know how to spell extinct? Another dumb Right Wing Idiot.
The War Mongers know how to kill people, 650,000 in the 2 wars. Mission Completed.
gmag is right.
This whole thing is being overblown.
The Democrats are A-OK.
They will be fine in Nov.
They do not need to change anything except to perhaps to crank it up. They are not pushing hard enough for real health care reform.
They need to use Reconcialition and pass single payer or just put the whole nation on Medicare.
We don't need 2/3 votes for many other bills. We have big control of both houses. You Right Wingers act like you won the Presidency. Obama may get in for 4 more. He's doing a good job after what he inherited from Bush. We had Hoover causing the last Depression, another Right Winger. Go Dem's GO!!!!!!!!
You must watch Scott Browns acceptance speech:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/3972841/brown...
Hey Harry don't let the door hit you on the behind on the way out to Searchlight.
This is a sign that the people are SICK AND TIRED of these democrats cramming things that we dont want down our throats!!!! I bet old Ted Kennedy is rolling over in his grave right now!
Funny, are you serious, seriously, with respect to the non living, Ted Kennedy did his fair share of cramming. The only reason he'd be rolling is that he isn't here to help his fellow Democrats any more.
AWESOME
It will be fun to watch purge of the rest of
the socialists in November.
Morning, I got a good nights sleep, unlike some of our Liberal friends who are still wringing their hands.
Folks, it's just a start of things to come, so our Liberal friends should stock up on medication...
"You have awakened a sleeping giant." Katy Abram to Arlen Specter 8/11/09.
Palin,Brown GOP Ticket 2014 maybe !!!
People may laugh but both of these possible caidates have more political exsperince than President Obama.
Remember when Obama started to campaign as a long shot for Dem nomoniehe had less than one year of experience as a Senator and no prior political experience to that ellection.
Just tons of money behind him and built a big political campaign.A fresh new voice no had heard of until the News started spot lighting him.
The problem with Obama is he had some great words and ideas but he has found that it is tougher than he expected.I truelly believe that Obama felt if he spoke it it would come to pass.
Obama and the Attorney General have given terroist the same rights Americans have by allowing a jury trial here in this country.Those terroist are not U.S. Citizens and terorism is an act of war.War crimes are to be tried in a Millitary tribunal and I am impaled and sickened that these scumbags are being treated equal to me.
President Obama's approvalrating after one year is already below 50% and still gradualy slipping.
He has focused on a healthcare bill that less than 40% of the American public wants and he does not get it.
He was voted into office in hope tat he would imediately start attempting to repair the economy.This economy is no quick fixbut if Obama could propose a healthcare bill that suposedly want cost tax payers anything take that same money adjustment and put it into projects to stimulate the economy like large construction projects tax breaks to small buisness employers and so fourth.
I commend Senator Scott Brown for taking on and defeating the Big Power Full Democrat Political Machine in Mass.Hopefully the message was sent but it already sounds as though the Dems. are point the blame finger and are in denial that the Halthcare bill had anything to do with the outcome of the Mass. election.
So I hope now for Nevada's sake that the Dems. stay in denial and Harry Reid is next.
if the press was smart they would step out into the State of Massachuettes and ask the voter why they voted the way they did.I bet that 70% would say the healthcare bill had something to do with it.
The political analysist inject their oppinions but are swayed by their own opinions and poitical views.
Bounce Harry Reid and leave him with his "Pants On The Ground" walking like a fool with his pants on the ground.
ecm, were they talking about Larry?
It is really sad to see how brainwashed all you republicans are... First off how do most of you even identify yourselves as a republican???? are you guys filthy rich???? do you run corporations that pay horribly and dont provide healthcare??? all of you that keep voting for these corporate puppets(repub or dem) are the people that are allowing this country to go down the crapper. When will most of you realize that this country has been hijacked by a highly sophisticated criminal organiztion that is turning this country into a third world nation??? This Scott Brown guy is nothing more than a corporate puppet, same with Coakley... When will we the people stand up to this establishment and vote for people that are not pushed down our throats by fox news, cnn, msnbc, etc...???? The only real patriotic american who has run for high office lately would have to be Ron Paul but most of you are so brainwashed by the news channels on tv that you would never vote for him. i feel ashamed to be an american right now and it's all because the people of this country are the dumbest people in the world.
gmager...
I hope you have noticed that I have been pretty silent on this issue. My earlier statement was in response to kenoking's rant...
I am not sure that "You have awakened a sleeping giant and left him with a bitter resolve" is appropriate for today...
To RODTIG - It is really obvious that you, along with the rest of you right wing non thinking fools dont know anything... So first off it would be great to see Brown/Palin run in 2014 because there is no election in 2014 hahaha, shows how smart you really are... Have any of you so called die hard republicans opened up your history books to see how your republican policies are very nazi german like??? Patriot Act = Enabling Act(hitler had this passed which led to the holocaust, the patriot act is almost completly identical)... How about you people do some research on you beloved leaders... like look up Prescott Bush(georges grandpa) and see his very close business ties to Hitler(yes prescott was charged with treason and trading with the enemy), prescotts money was tied to the construction of concentration camps that killed millions. The Bush family along with their repub cohorts have always used War as a way to make themselves richer, not our country but themselves.Now go look up "Northwoods Operation", seriously go look it up and see how the Bush ran CIA in the 60's put together a program that would use American Airliners and crash them into american cities and then they would blame "cuban terrorists" and try to go to war with them even though in reality we attacked ourselves(can anyone say 9/11???? seriously the CIA came up with the plan in the 60's, so instead of just thinking im telling a lie how about you go and look it up yourselves, "NORTHWOODS OPERATION") It really does amaze me to know that so many of you dont wake up and realize how this country has been hijacked for the benefit of a few and def not the benefit of anyone posting on here. people wake up and smell the nazi's(repub and dem)
IncognitoRebel's incoherent rant is a good example of why the wild left is causing good Democratic candidates to lose their bids for election and re-election.
Hey Rhooster - obviously you dont read what i've posted on here. your a clueless fool and have most likely breed an entire family of nonthinking fools. people like you have destroyed this country and you dont even realize it. yoou act like this is some sort of game and just want your team to win no matter who it is running or what policies are made up, just as long as your team wins. when will people like you wake up to the reality of our political nightmare??? this country is being controlled by a few and they are laughing all the way to the bank because this country full of fools continues to vote in anybody they put on tv... they could put up a mentally retarded guy that barely knows how to speak and win, o wait they already did that with george bush. you are pathetic and its sad to know that people like you are breeding and creating more toxic thinking.
gmag39; Very funny, but I'm not privy to Larry's stature.
LarryVegas; I find it more than appropriate. I am one of many that truly did not pay much attention to the day-to-day workings of politics. Now I find myself reading and researching just about everything that pops up. It's amazing to me that something in real life, such as bribery (negotiations to the lawyers and politicians), is considered normal, acceptable, and necessary in the political world. Neither party represents the American people. Both parties need to look at last night's race and realize there will always be extremes on both sides, and they are the MINORITY. If you only listen to the minority you risk losing the majority.
LarryVegas - its your inabilty to comprehend anything that is mildly complex thats the problem. if its not REAL SIMPLE and easy for people like you to understand than you just label it as incoherent. i figure most are just to stupid to even comprehend most of what i say but maybe a few of you out there actually have a free thinking brain that can do some research and see how badly this country is being screwed. The biggest problem in this country is not the politicians but the stupid people that keep electing the parasite politicians and not real patriotic americans who actually have the peoples best interest at hand and not the corporations best interest.
The TEA party stands for Taxed Enough Already.
Who would disagree with that?
Frankly, neither side in the above comments is displaying a collective IQ larger than a hat size. Which explains how this state ends up with the likes of Gried and Ensign; and Gibbons and Gried Jr.
Massachusetts already had government health care (state program) There is no motivation on the part of voters to vote that out.
As a result of Brown's win, the stock market has tanked 200 points. The talk radio bigots said it was going to go up.
"Frankly, neither side in the above comments is displaying a collective IQ larger than a hat size. Which explains how this state ends up with the likes of Gried and Ensign; and Gibbons and Gried Jr."
Typical liberal elitist BS.
IncognitoRebel's incoherent rants and perverted thinking are exactly what put Scott Brown in office.
I would like to think that the independent minded voters in Massachusetts are similar to myself and most of the individuals who post here who saw through the ideology put out by both parties and those like you who are so full of hate for those who have different political opinions.
If the Democratic Party continues to cater to the extreme left of their party as they have the last couple of years, they are finished...
Liberal elitists are constantly calling others who have different political positions "stupid."
Calling someone stupid will never garner their support, will it???
I guess mr ed did not hear that Massachusetts Independents WERE concerned about Obama health care bill and was one of the main issues Scott Brown ran on.
Oh, and independents voters put Scott Brown in office...
November is just around the corner. GOOD BYE HARRY!!! >>>>> 11/2/10 >>>>> It will be like 1994 all over again. I hope that President Obama likes working with his new Republican congress. HA,HA,HA,
mred, ksand and all other libs putting a beatdown on the common folk...... keep it up, we are reloading and getting ready for November.
Thanks for the motivation.
Gordon thinks that all is doom and gloom because a Non-Liberal won a very important election. Hang in there Gordon, a lot more to come...
Gordon - your exactly right. republicans love it when the country is in major trouble. they are the best at drumming up fear and hate. it's as if the american people like voting for things that will be harmful to them. for all you nevadans that keep posting on here about ousting reid, do you understand the implications for this state if you all were to vote him out??? do you not understand that we now have the strongest senator in the nation??? if we vote him out we'll be putting in a junior senator that has NO pull at all. Thats when these republicans will start trying to get yucca mountain back on the radar because without a powerful senator nothing will stop them. so a vote against reid is a vote FOR nuclear waste in our backyard. it's gonna be up to you, so please do yourselves a favor and turn off the hate tv known as fox and actually think for yourselves and not be a brainwashed drone that does and says anything those lunatics on fox tell you to.
Sen. Brown has a profile similar to Tammany Hall in New York. Where is his pick-up truck for the common man.
Since the candidates and WYNNIE WINNERS are pro-lifers, how are these prolifers going to pay for the medical care of those whose lives have been saved by conservative Christians--from the back of a pick up truck.
When civil rights were being doled out by the overlord, from whence did the doling occur--from the back of a pick up truck. He drove his pick up truck to meetings does this identify him as being a political weekend chum to pack your parachute with while playing golf and doling out favors from his pick up truck.
Not only does he have a profile of Tammany Hall but he also has a profile of you guessed it--Sen. Ensign (R) NV.
On the rude arch that spanned the flood
In the April breeze their flag unfurled
Here the embattled farmer stood
And fired the shot heard round the world
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
This is hopefully the beginning of America voting our every single incumbent, and a new start for Americans. The healthcare issue is NOT the only problem, remember the bailout and all the republicans who voted for it. I will not vote for incumbents or name brands like Danny Tarkanian. I won't vote for community organizers either. Don't forget and vote for a fresh new Congress and Senate, new city, state and county leaders too. This would also include Doug Gillespie and his extremely poor leadership of the 'wild, wild west' department he continues to let run amuck! I'm sure he'll better serve the large casino conglomerate's security division he's been chosen for AFTER he's booted out from Metro as Sheriff. Too many people in the pockets of big business need to go!
"The talk radio bigots"....
mred, you lost your credibility right after the recent court house shooting occurred and you predicted a white, right wing male was to blame after being influenced by am talk radio. As we all later learned the shooter/murderer was a black male on the government cheese for over 20 years. Highly likely he was an Obama supporter.
Do yourself a favor and give the talk radio argument a rest.
The dust has hardly settled in the Massachusetts election and the hate and name calling has already started from the hate filled Liberals.
Elitist Liberals just can't understand how America relates to things like pickup trucks, plumbers and Populists.
These same elitist Liberals do not like firearms, but they are the first to shoot themselves in the foot, by making fun of the majority of Americans...
IncognitoRebel; From where I sit a Jr. Senator is far better than a Sr. Senator that doesn't listen to the majority of his constituents. If this movement is everything it appears to be, there will be a lot of Jr. Senators in 2010 and again in 2012, and I don't believe they will all be republican's.
Go to Rush Bimbo for more Right Wing stupidity.
"Axelrod, however, declined to see the national mood souring for Democrats heading into fall, saying he believed the Democratic message that sent Obama to the White House still resonates with voters". Another example of the arrogance in Washington, a clear message that the current administration and the Democratic Party have no clue about the pulse of the American People. America is waking up and she's pissed. The Revolution is on!
"Were still in control of this country. You RIGHT WING CRY BABIES WILL HAVE TO PUT UP WITH US FOR 3 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't you know how to spell extinct? Another dumb Right Wing Idiot.
You Right Wingers act like you won the Presidency. Obama may get in for 4 more. He's doing a good job after what he inherited from Bush. We had Hoover causing the last Depression, another Right Winger. Go Dem's GO!!!!!!!!
Go to Rush Bimbo for more Right Wing stupidity."
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Some Liberals are such pleasant people to have around and are always uplifting in their conversations...
"Massachusetts already had government health care (state program) There is no motivation on the part of voters to vote that out."
Mred....this is absolutely correct.
There is no problems with current path of the Democratic party.
Nov. will be fine.
Don't worry.
The pulse meisters all claim the jugular!
The truth is that revolution may well be at hand. Judging by the explosive exaltations of joy and subsequent predictions of landslides of anti-socialism in a democratic country, it must have been awhile since something laudable even entered the radar of the elephant party.
Obama, Biden, Reid & Pelosi aka Moe, Larry, Curly Joe & Shemp.
A very simple rule change in congress would fix this nonsense. The Dems should grow a pair and do it.
Shelly Berkley (CD-1 Democrat), Dina Titus (CD-3 Democrat), and Harry "Backdoor" Reid (Democrat), these Democrats are trying to force the Government takeover of our Health Care and forcing this down our throats. Now it's time for the people of the great state of Nevada to clean house by throwing out the trash!
HEY DESSERTSUN - ARE YOU FOR MEDICARE??? THATS GOVERNMENT RUN. MOST OF YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THE HEALTH CARE BILL WOULD DO FOR THIS COUNTRY. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN SO BRAINWASHED THAT YOU ACTUALLY THINK ITS A BAD THING... IT WOULD BE LIKE ME WAVING A MILLION DOLLARS IN FRONT OF YOUR FACES AND YOU ALL TELLING ME THAT YOU DONT WANT IT BECAUSE FOX NEWS TOLD YOU ITS NOT REAL MONEY. YOU STUPID PEOPLE NEED TO GROW AN EFFIN BRAIN. WE NEED FREE HEALTH CARE FOR EVERY CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY. GET RID OF THE "FOR PROFIT" SYSTEM. ITS REALLY THAT SIMPLE.
It is heartwarming to see how happy the Republicans are today. Unfortunately, President Obama in his upcoming State of the Union address will dash all Republican hopes for 2012.
The President will likely make two and only two promises in his State of the Union message:
1. He has learned his lesson from the American people and will govern for the next 3 years WITH integrity and WITHOUT the special-interest sweetheart deals that sunk him yesterday.
2. He will run in 2012 only as the Vice-Presidential candidate, and will let his Democratic party choose the new Presidential candidate.
If he can live up to those two promises, 2012 will be very interesting.
I can't believe the number of insane right-wing nut-jobs that have commented here and what they've said.
Anyway, Martha Coakley was a weak candidate, Brown will be out of a job in 2012, and Harry Reid isn't going to lay down the way Coakley did.
Name calling and authoritarian impulses seem to be the order of the day.
Harry Reid next!
Let Boxer be the next to go
NO MORE REID (FOREVER) IN THE POLITICAL ARENA OF NEVADA - THEY ARE RICH ENOUGH FOR THE SAKE OF NEVADANS
Please refresh our memories to all the wonderful things Reid has done for this state. You bring up the fact that we can't afford to loose the senior senator, WHY? Just because he's been around long enough to remember when Yucca mountain was a mole hill, If anything it's all the more reason to get him out of office. We should have someone that listens to the people, Not the voices in his head.
Incognito,
You call those that don't want health care stupid when you don't understand the bill. Then you are stupid enough to ask dessertsun if he for Medicare. The reason I say you are dang stupid is because if dessertsun is paying into that medicare system, why would he not want to see something from it? I pay taxes, I don't know if you do but last year I paid a good chunk of change. My money goes into social security and medicare. Both of these government run programs are going bankrupt before I retire so it looks like they will not benefit me. It is total crap that I get to pay into a system that will not help me. The success of these social programs are fictitious at best and you are stupid for believing your news sources like Keith Olbemann, Colbert, and Sponge Bob square pants.
There a saying that "if it is too good to be true, it probably isn't." Incognito, Obama pitches the ideas of trillions in new spending without it costing us in the end, we have known that SS and Medicare are tanking for quite some time, it is impossible to pay for the insurance of 12 million people and pay less money. Did you see in the health bill where no benefits would be given out until 2014 but taxes would be paid this year. You don't think this was to make the CBO ten year projection look better than it really is. What about the senate version of the bill that requires married couple to pay much more and non married couple to pay much less. What about the rest of the union paying for Nebraska's potion, is that suppose to to cut costs for everyone?
Your an idiot Incognito!
How do Republicans feel about Gov. Schwarzanegger? I can't tell. He's the only Republican that I like--he tried to reduce public salaries for firemen, police, pencil-pushers, etc. He isn't afraid of colossal education cuts. I hope there are more cuts to UC because my property taxes are a disaster. As for Brown's victory--this should send a powerful message--DON'T GET SICK!!! Good luck paying for your $1000 a month cancer drugs. I don't think they will be selling for $4 at Wal-Mart.
IncognitoRebel writes "...FREE HEALTH CARE FOR EVERY CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY."
Incognito wants FREE HEALTH CARE...
Incognito needs FREE HEALTH CARE...
Give me, give me, give me...
Manfromuncle, Gov. Scharzanegger is nothing more than his wife's sock puppet. He should register as a dem.
As for you silly don't get sick comment, you make too many assumptions.
You assume that the health care bill will help every one (it won't). You assume that if the bill passes, the care will follow (it does but 4 years of taxes come before any health care arrives). You assume that the majority has no health care but the fact of the matter is that most people do and they like their plans (except for the cost). You assume that it will be affordable but that is not the case. I can't afford another $6,000 in taxes to pay for the health care of others. I can but I don't want to. I would rather save for my kids' college tuition. Most Americans earn their health care through their employers. You are assuming that Obama is telling the truth when he has already lied so much. Transparency, debates on CSPAN, no taxes on anyone under $250,000, unemployment will not pass 8% if this bill passes, etc.
Manfromuncle, nothing backs up your comment. Although it would be nice if Walmart would offer cancer drugs at $4. The free market is what has allowed $4 prescriptions at Walmart. Not government intervention. Please don't forget that the government has yet to run anything well.
Manfromuncle, Gov. Scharzanegger is nothing more than his wife's sock puppet. He should register as a dem.
As for your silly don't get sick comment, you make too many assumptions.
You assume that the health care bill will help every one (it won't). You assume that if the bill passes, the care will follow (it does but 4 years of taxes come before any health care arrives). You assume that the majority has no health care but the fact of the matter is that most people do and they like their plans (except for the cost). You assume that it will be affordable but that is not the case. I can't afford another $6,000 in taxes to pay for the health care of others. I can but I don't want to. I would rather save for my kids' college tuition. Most Americans earn their health care through their employers. You are assuming that Obama is telling the truth when he has already lied so much. Transparency, debates on CSPAN, no taxes on anyone under $250,000, unemployment will not pass 8% if this bill passes, etc.
Manfromuncle, nothing backs up your comment. Although it would be nice if Walmart would offer cancer drugs at $4. The free market is what has allowed $4 prescriptions at Walmart. Not government intervention. Please don't forget that the government has yet to run anything well.
Jr-- If you think a free market is better, then why not let the University of Calif. become private. Let UCLA charge $150,000 for a degree to anybody who can afford it or who thinks it's worth it. In addition, the govt. should stop guaranteeing student loans and change the law so that student loans are dischargeable in bankruptcy. I don't like my huge property tax bill either, so why should I pay for someone else'e education, which may only serve to put that person into colossal debt?
Wow, no comment from the teenster and mshaffer,ghostcommander. What happened to dingo?
Gmag,
Obviously I made a spelling error big deal. Why don't you address the contents of my message? Since I am a "Ring Wing idiot" I don't have enough fingers to count the unemployment rates in Detroit or Vegas. Can you or your Union friends help me? I don't think so since spell checking is the EXTENT of your EXTINCT brain.
If I misspelled a word, incorrectly punctuated a sentence or made any other kind of mistake, please address my message before correcting me. Thanks
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Dr_Scott,
To the extinct that I might be extent, as these things go and so forth, I have a sneaking hunch
you are putting a little too much stock, if you'll pardon my wall street reference, in one 401k.
I am glad to see all my righty friends on these pages of the Sun in such a state of rapt ecstasy.
Sometimes, those little blue pills have unintended consequences.
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Scott wrote;
To all Democrats;
You are a bunch of bleeding heart, union supporting liberals. Look at what the UAW has done to Detroit; now look at what the SEIU is doing to Vegas. At one time Unions represented the majority of workers in the U.S., now they represent fewer than 10% of the private sector. Why, because they put business's out of business! Wake up you are a dinosaur, you will be extent soon!!
You will thank Massachusetts when you wake up from your Obama dream.
dingo is doing a 5 year slide in Utah.
looks like republicans in DC dictate what goes on in Nevada. McCain, Mr. Amnesty, says Kroylikee is your man for Senate (Nevada Millenium Scholarships for illegals?) ha ha. Sandoval is another hand picked ringer, too.
Larry, yep, I did notice that.
What do you think of our Dr. Scott?
I think he has VERY thin skin. We are certainly not below a little ribbing, even IF we're a Doc.
And he's a little on edge, don't you think? Stress, perhaps. How we went from my "righty friends" comment to his "right wing idiot" comment, I can only hazard a guess; He may have high blood pressure. But, what do I know. I'm just a Dino! Well, off to dinner. Ferns, AGAIN.
The fact that the uninsured will have to pay a tax of $1,000 each if they won't buy insurance and will have to pay 8-12 percent of their income to get the insurance. We also zero in on taxes on pacemakers and other medical equipment and on how the plan will force up family health insurance premiums by $1700 per family.
This is NOT about "health care reform"..It's ALL about Government control.
WE THE PEOPLE have spoken in a loud voice. GET OUT OF OUR HOUSE and our business. We will speak more loudly in the future elections in 2010 if Congress persists in trying to ram this BS down our throats! Obama, Harry Reid and SanFran Nan can take their HOAX and CHAINS to a Socalist Country but it will not be tolerated in U.S.A. God Bless AMERICA
White people still run the country, but not for very much longer. Soon they will be the minority and then i think a lot of stuff will get done. Till white people are out of government,only rich people will get free stuff. I say another 20 years and Mexico City will be the capital, again !
Jaun...
I heard you had a victory party over at your house and invited the ghostcommander, dingo, mrability, ksand99, teenster and a few other Liberals over for dinner.
What did you do with them? We had not heard from them lately...
Hey jaun- what makes you believe that whites will be the minority... Are you bringing more family to take over America and run it better... what makes you think that this will make mexica city the capital... Maybe you should look at your country and remember why you came to America.. As you think of why then start looking to hike to another country since your family would ruin thus country just as they did mexica... If it was so great there you would not have had to run jump and swim to look for work...
Does Olberman have a crush on Scott Brown? I know he has a lot of reality with tea-bagging but Keith, its tea "party", not "bagging".
Hey Larry, i invited Birdbrain err Birdiedreaming but he never showed up. maybe he will show up on the firstb of the month when I get my food Stamps in, i can really put on quite a spread.
Is Harry Reid trying to establish a dynasty in Nevada ? I wonder what Nevadans are thinking when the father is trying to secure his Senate seat while the son is running for governor....
I think that Jaun bagged up the GhostCommander, Dingo and a few other Liberals and sent them to Mexico to perform hard labor on an agave farm, since there is a labor shortage in Mexico now...
Rhooster said....
"Tarkanian will beat Harry Reid in the primary."
WOW! I didn't know "baby Tark" was a Democrat! Thank you for that information.....
There is virtually no difference in tuition costs between out of state public tuition and private universities. For in staters, the public funds in state tuition. Your liberal mindset believes that on the back of many, a few should be propped up. Do you really think that government money lowers the cost, it increases the cost of overall tuition by artificially propping up tuition costs. Just look at the housing market, the government wanted to slow the downward spiral of cost by throwing money at the market.
Manfromuncle you assume that government intervention lowers cost when it does the opposite. Medicare and medicaid have driven up costs of insurance for low premium pay out and then hospitals recouped losses through insurance companies. In addition, Medicare denies more claims than the private sector.
The problem I have is that you believe that everyone needs to fund the ideas you and others with your same opinion want. I have ideas and dreams, but I plan on saving and paying for them myself. If I want a car, I won't demand that my neighbors should pay for it even if I can't afford it.
I just wish that politicians (republicans politicians were weasely enough to through thing into the stimulus bill) weren't so giving with other peoples money. It would be nice if they would give their money to their own causes. It would also be nice if they would opt into to the plan they are so eager to give to the public.