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Sam Morris / Las Vegas Sun
Audience members clap during a press conference held by the Tea Party Express Tuesday, January 12, 2009 at the Westin Casuarina.
Wednesday, Jan. 13, 2010 | 2 a.m.
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- John Ensign to fellow Republicans: Back off Harry Reid (1-11-10)
- Harry Reid stands firm, sidesteps questions about validity of comment (1-11-10)
- GOP cites double standard, pressures Democrats over Harry Reid comments (1-11-10)
- GOP chief: Harry Reid should step down over ‘no Negro dialect’ remark (1-10-10)
- Harry Reid apologizes for ‘no Negro dialect’ remark about Obama (1-9-2010)
- Grass roots or not, Nevada tea parties had assist (9-1-2009)
Mark Williams got on his knees Tuesday, clasped his hands as if in prayer and pleaded with a Las Vegas audience to oust Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
“Please get rid of Harry Reid,” said Williams, the national vice chairman of the Tea Party Express.
Five of Reid’s would-be Republican challengers eagerly waited nearby for their turn to court the conservative group’s vote and answer the plea.
More than 100 people had gathered in a small conference room at the Westin Casuarina to hear red-meat pitches from candidates seeking to challenge Reid. They weren’t disappointed, with one candidate saying that even roadkill would beat Reid in a poll.
Standing behind a lectern that read, “Save Our Republic From Government Tyranny,” the Senate hopefuls touted their conservative bona fides to a virtually all-white, gray-haired crowd that could make the difference in the Republican primary.
Dispirited by President Barack Obama’s decisive victory in Nevada two years ago, conservatives are rallying behind the anti-government Tea Party brand, turning out to events and becoming politically active in campaigns. The movement fills a vacuum left by the Nevada Republican Party, which has struggled to raise money and build a grass-roots organization in the wake of the presidential election.
In the Tea Party movement, Reid’s challengers see the potential for a ready-made network of battle-ready precinct captains and volunteers — a counterweight to the considerable election operation Reid inherits from Obama.
Underscoring the movement’s importance in Nevada was the presence of a half dozen candidates for other offices, including Mike Montandon, the former North Las Vegas mayor who is running for governor. (Leaving nothing in doubt, Michele Fiore, a state Senate candidate, handed out cards identifying her as a “Tea Party Republican Conservative.”)
Danny Tarkanian
Competition for these conservative voters will be fierce, as evidenced by two of the Senate race’s leading candidates attacking each other Tuesday. Danny Tarkanian’s campaign issued a memo comparing Sue Lowden’s “evolving” positions on a number of issues to a Cirque du Soleil contortionist.
Lowden’s camp fired back, calling Tarkanian, who has unsuccessfully run for secretary of state and state Senate, a “perennial office-shopper who ... has yet to win support from general election voters in Nevada.”
Sue Lowden
Tuesday’s event was staged by the Tea Party Express, a traveling road show of conservative entertainers, activists and politicians. The group is spending more than $250,000 on anti-Reid ads in Nevada this week, part of a $1 million campaign, and in March will launch a national tour from Reid’s hometown of Searchlight.
The event comes after days of bad news for Reid: a record-low approval rating (33 percent) and then revelations in a new book that the senator said Obama was a good presidential candidate because he was “light-skinned” with “no Negro dialect.” Although Reid has apologized for the remarks and continues to enjoy the support of local and national black leaders, the Tea Party set smells blood in the water.
“We’ve made some great strides with some help from Harry Reid,” said Williams, eliciting chuckles. “He’s the gift that keeps on giving.”
Brandon Hall, Reid’s campaign manager, dismissed the event as pure politics.
“From Day One, their top priority has been to distort Sen. Reid’s record and obstruct his efforts to turn the economy around and ensure quality, affordable health care for all Nevadans,” he said in a statement. “Sen. Reid will not back down from this or any other fight when it comes to delivering for the hardworking families of Nevada.”
As their names were pulled from a hat, the candidates did their best to connect with the, at times, rowdy audience.
Lowden, a former state senator and one-time chairwoman of the Nevada Republican Party, said she was an early supporter of the Tea Party movement, noting that she had attended rallies — and written a check “to encourage you to keep going.” She highlighted the public service part of her resume, starting with her USO tour in Vietnam. Lowden said as a state senator, she had “shut down” the chamber’s taxation committee.
And, to cap her appeal, she offered dozens of phones in her campaign headquarters to help make calls for Scott Brown, the Tea Party-endorsed Republican seeking the late Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat in Massachusetts.
Bill Parson, a 23-year Marine Corps veteran, pledged congressional term limits, massive cuts in government spending and a “return to state sovereignty.” He described himself as a “strict constitutionalist.”
Following Parson’s lead, Mike Wiley, a former talk radio host, said health care reform legislation violates the Constitution.
Sharron Angle, a former four-term assemblywoman, fidgeted in the back of the room as she waited for her name to be called, and when it was she ran down the center aisle as if summoned to the stage of the “The Price Is Right.” Angle, who has a Northern Nevada base of support, summed up her campaign: “lower taxes, less regulation and stop the spending.” She said Reid had neglected Nevada as he ascended the national stage.
Sharron Angle
“The true issues are the economy, the economy, the economy,” Angle said. “And Harry Reid has been waterboarding the economy for the last year.”
Tarkanian, a lawyer and former UNLV basketball star, invoked President Ronald Reagan: “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’ ” He pledged “market-driven” health care reform, including tort reform. Tarkanian also said he would tackle illegal immigration and protect gun rights.
The crowd ate it up — so much so that those interviewed by the Sun said they faced a tough choice in the primary. In the end, with antipathy toward Reid so strong, it may not matter.
Kay Lawrence, a retired art gallery manager, said she last got involved in politics when she cut a check to oust Reid’s predecessor as Senate majority leader, former South Dakota Sen. Tom Daschle.
“I gave money to defeat Daschle, and I didn’t even know who he was running against,” she said. “I didn’t care.”
what a bunch of blowhards...
100 people...
that's it...
how many were paid to be there???
how many where hoping to get paid by being there???
just a bunch of children...
that cry...
loudly...
this is not news...
this is a joke...
Harry Reid is the master of his own demise. Despite the warnings from his constituents that the healthcare bill was unwanted, he worked day and night on it ignoring the plight of bankruptcy and unemployment in his own state. Now the voters will send him their response which will send him back to Searchlight. The moral of this story is that when you are an elected official you answer to the people. Harry decided that he could do whatever he wanted, the people and the State of Nevada be damned. Farewell Harry, it's ALL OVER FOR YOU!!!
From looking at the photo, probably a lot of the people thought they would be meeting at the Maxim.
"Although Reid has apologized for the remarks and continues to enjoy the support of local and national black leaders"
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Plantation Master Harry Reid has called upon LIGHT-SKINNED "HOUSE" NEGRO HARVARD OUOTA GRADUATE President Obama to "forgive and forget" and to say Master Reid is "A good Man [Reid] who has always been on the right side" and then say we have "Closed the Book".
Master Harry Reid said "I've been really -- my heart, I've -- has been warmed as to the response I've gotten [from DEMOCRATs] around the country," for accepting his apology for racial remarks.
from the picture looks like a bunch of rich old stingy white folks to me. these same rich and lazy keep their idiot flock full of hate directed the wrong way. hey this is america were more interested in tiger, mj, jay lo, simon, idol. who cares about who's stealing the store while we're not looking. we just want our wii's. wake up.
Harry got the health reform on his own. Would never have passed without him. Good job Harry. The Rightwing cry babies will bitch forever
Kenoking53 :
That;s right Harry got the health reform that is going to either keep, or put you on the unemployment lines. This has NOTHING to do with left or right wing politics, as it is going to ruin us all. Congrats!!
formervegas76, You will wake up fast when Obama Care is forced on you and if you don't take it you will be fined! These people have worked all their lives and are now fighting against all this taxation and for freedom to choose for every American. We don't like Obama's/Democrat agenda of socialized America, too many died fighting for this right! Wake up and do you homework.
The Democratic Socialist Party has created their own doomsday machine. They will fall.
from the picture looks like a bunch of rich old stingy white folks to me. these same rich and lazy keep their idiot flock full of hate directed the wrong way. hey this is america were more interested in tiger, mj, jay lo, simon, idol. who cares about who's stealing the store while we're not looking. we just want our wii's. wake up.
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Thanks again for showing us who the real racists and bigots are. And just why do you think you are entitled to these "stingy" peoples money? Why don't you ask Brian Greenspun for some of his, he has plenty of it and he shares your views. See if that works out for you.
Is this a photo from an ACTUAL tea party?
In a Retirement Home?
Can't you just HEAR the conversations?
Complete with jokes about "plantation master" Harry Reid?
The absolute IRONY of it all!
You can tell the writer of this piece had to restrain himself from using the phrase "tea-bagger" instead of "tea-party".
Mandingo :
Time for your Meds...
lcmandingonamvet - I'm still waiting for you to make your point. So, what's your point?
Good god,
A handful of old farts show up at a small meeting room here in Las Vegas and this newspapers management?editorial dept goes off the deep end talking about em like they're a bunch of terrorists or maybe even worse, a republican.
Why don't you guys send Greenspun off on a worldwide tour in his fleet of luxury jets because this his newspaper is starting to read like he really, really, needs it.
The right wing sore losers have been on a two year temper tantrum posing as grassroots anger but they are really astro-turfing bought and paid for corporate puppets.
That picture is scary. No color in the room and way too many rich sagging faces.
It tells you a lot about a bunch of prostitue congressional people that sell out their votes for a so called good deal. Searchlight Harry the main Pimp passing out money deals for the prostitutes.
Surely Grrenspun Media has photos of Harry from his claimed days as a pugilist. I want to see the evidence.
It is great that these people are getting involved in politics. I have to ask where were these people when GWB was in power?
Why don't they demonstrate against the DOD budget? We spend twice as much as the rest of the world, and we can't stop Al Queada.
If they do get their way and Reid is defeated in November, Nevada loses its clout. Our state will not have the majority leader. We will have either Chuck Schumer or Dick Durbin as the majority leader. Either one of these Senators is quite a bit more liberal than Harry Reid.
It will be OK though, because you will see the junior senator from Nevada, every so often on CSPAN2. You will have defeated Reid, and Nevada can take its rightful position as little state with no clout.
We will finally be the backwater, that we aspire to. Hey, then we can put the deathknell on tourism when we open Yucca Mtn. as The Nuclear Waste Depository. There will be no stopping the congress from going ahead on that.
But, we will have defeated Reid, so we have our priorities straight. Unfortunately for the Tea Party Movement, the demographics of the USA is not producing more irate, elderly, white people.
The young and the minorities will not be attracted to this movement. They like Obama.
So even if the Right Wing has a significant victory in November, it will be short-lived.
Because of demographics, Our country is becoming much more racially diverse, and these voters are not buying the bankrupt conservative ideology.
God Bless George W. Bush! He is the gift that will keep on giving to the lefty liberals.
When the youngest person the room is 40 y.o. Armenian-American Danny Tarkanian( Who has no name recognition), the movement is in trouble.
Politics in America is in the gutter so bad I'll never vote again. Whack jobs on both sides spewing hate and fear. Duped by Bush, duped by Obama, and the average citizen screwed in the middle. Have your damn tea party, divide us all the way. I am so sick of this crap. Never anything positive. Hell on earth??? Maybe.
All this name calling. My my! The "R's" and the "D's", the Red and the Blue, the Elephants and the Donkeys; what do these all have in common? NO DEBATE OVER TORT REFORM. They've all have been boughten, and paid for, by the Legal Industry. "Tea-Bagger" and INDEPENDANT
SOMEBODY needs to have Gried document how many blacks he has hired in his 40 years in office.
Cadaver -- why can't bigots spell??
100 Tea baggers show up. Look at those people in the picture. Thats your typical Tea Bagger.
The Rothenberg Political Report rating was the latest blow to the Senate majority leader, whose re-election race moved from the "toss-up" column to the category that means his Republican opponent is more likely to win. It came as the Tea Party Express launched $100,000 in anti-Reid television ads in Nevada that are part of an expected $1 million campaign funded by the Tea Party Express' political action committee.
vc: 100 Tea baggers show up. Look at those people in the picture. Thats your typical Tea Bagger.
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Proud of it. Doesn't look like the "party of victims".
Reid plays the Race Card whenever it suits him:
In 2006, for example, Reid took to the Senate floor to denounce legislation declaring English the national language of the United States. "This amendment is racist,'' he barked, slurring thereby not only the 63 senators who voted for it, but the large majority of Americans who agreed with them.
Just last month, Reid likened Republicans who oppose Democratic health-care legislation to the 19th-century white supremacists who supported black slavery. "If you think you've heard these same excuses before, you're right,'' Reid said. "When this country belatedly recognized the wrongs of slavery, there were those who dug in their heels and said 'Slow down. It's too early. Let's wait.'''
rusty, I dont agree with Reid on everything. But on healthcare reform, it is time. I agree with his analogy. I hardly consider myself a member of the party of victims, but i certainly believe we all pay a little for the benefit of society as a whole instead of being totally self centered.
Try lunatic conservative. There is virtually nothing that the teabaggers understand, or are correct about. These people are an embarassment to the nation and to Nevada.
"virtually all-white, gray-haired crowd "
Obama would have been at home.
It was mainly fair skin non-negro dialect speaking people...you know the ones that sometimes vote in elections.
Hey...he is coming to town.
I am crossing my fingers that he will not tell businesses not to have their conventions or meetings here.
Hoping....praying...
Funny - looks like these 100 people are getting their free healthcare paid for by part of MY paycheck, yet they'd like to deny the right to purchase affordable healthcare to millions of people - classic "I got mine" mentality.
You have to laugh at the libs that post here...based on the four closest people, they assume all that don't support Harry Reid are old, and that we aren't creating any more old people.
Well, there are just a few problems with that logic...besides the comments being made by total morons...
1) you can't see the rest of the 90 + people to judge their age...
2) you too some day, if you are intelligent enough, will grow old...
3) two of the three opponents of Harry Reid have him by double digits, the third garners 10% more than he does. (44 to 40 %)...
4) judging on just the poll numbers - a hell ofva lot of young folks also think Harry is due to go.
But, you gotta forgive our young posters that support a dem no matter what (I believe the term is "yellow dog"), afterall, they speak from an emotional point of view, not one of fact...then again, stupidity should be painful...eat it up yellow dogs...your pain is our gain.
Believe it or not, the older you get, the wiser individuals tend to be. (no accounting for Harry.)
Anyone of these candidates would be better than our current dismal senator. Nevada is waking up, Senator Harry Reid has lost touch with the people of Nevada. You know the handwriting is on the wall when the guy was scared to confront his constituents face to face and had to resort to a controlled telephone interview. Nevada will have a fresh senator this year! Thank God!
Next Tea Party in Las Vegas will be Saturday, March 27 at 5 PM.
I love to see the Rightwing cry babies sobbing. They didn't get their way this past year. George W. Bush the [D] average student was the Rightwings hero. Mission accomplished, nothing was accomplished with this jerk. Him and his Dad were War Mongers. We had no terrorism before Desert Storm.
Just make sure you keep taking part of my check to pay for YOUR healthcare DessertSun - I got an idea, why don't all you TEA BAGGERS refuse Medicare - then maybe you'll have some crediblity.
From tyranny? Really?
Perhaps these folks should dust off their dictionary and review the definition of tyranny.
Losers.
How many of these terrible tea party people were carrying guns and Nazi signs? I bet they tore up the meeting room before they left.
Looks to me like democracy in action the way our founding fathers envisioned...
Shame on Liberals for posting their nasty, uniformed, hateful rants on these citizens who are practicing their god given rights. FREEDOM!!!
hey keno, did i say i supported obama or this crappy healthcare bill. i'm not brainwashed by these rich and lazy scumbags like apparently you are. oh by the way i served my country from 66-70. soldiers are still getting killed for rich peoples interests. saw in old navy stores their clothes made in vietnam, sure think that po's friends of mine whose sons never came home from that rat hole. make sure those rich people who never gave anything to this country give you your hate homework tonite.
Hand full of hate-take radio nut bars. Was the "bugkiller" there?
Loudone lied on the Sean Insannity show, and said she didn't try to strip the Republican platform of it's anti-abortion stance.
I guess Inssanity is backing her and not Tarkanian, nice to have an out of state NY based Gas Bag like Inssannity pick the Republican candidate.
Too bad mred does not have a hate-talk radio show of his own.
If he did, I could change stations to one that made more sense... Maybe "Air America."
Hey mred, did I get it wrong? Is it really "hate-take radio" as you stated???
mred prefers "victim" radio but that gets old for most people with a brain.
"Why don't they demonstrate against the DOD budget? We spend twice as much as the rest of the world, and we can't stop Al Queada."
This defense budget?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/...
"If they do get their way and Reid is defeated in November, Nevada loses its clout."
Nevada has clout? Evidence, please. Or did you mean Nevada will lose it's status as a laughing stock?
Republicans own the radio. Democrats own the internet. Looking at that room, one can see why.
LOL
I had to read the comments from the typical liberal losers. :)
MrAbility - Beck is a libertarian. Look it up some time. ;)
My thought very few people in that room are going to help out in any way to the country of Haiti, but on their way home they bitched about the service they received at the minimum wage clerk at the store,., my answer "listen to your grandchildren about the world" or just go ahead and die
Blowhards like Rush Loudmouth,Peck,Slanthead Hannity,and any other sore Gop Looser.lol
The fact remains,The Dems Are in,Gop is out.
We dont want here you people,your mute,get it?,,,
Now go back to your hate church and bagg parties,,
Eloquence abounds! You work for ACORN, don't you?
Maybe the crowd is white because blacks get beat up by SEIU thugs when they try to attend.
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/200...
You know, the group that promotes racism when it suits their purpose.
Mayabeach -
"my answer "listen to your grandchildren about the world" or just go ahead and die"
Your grandkids will tell you we need to welcome the world to the U.S., embrace diversity and Islam, apologize for all the harm we've done and make sure you go green.
However, if you listen to your grandparents, you might learn about freedoms worth fighting for, independence, personal liberties, patriotism and other old-fashioned values.
You choose.
Maybeabeach does not have a clue how much in taxes those attending the aforementioned meeting pay during the course of a year.
The U.S. Taxpayers will pay for the humanitarian effort that is assisting the people of Haiti. This is the way it has been and this is the way it will continue.
Typical Liberal's hate rant on those who do not have the same political beliefs as theirs...
I am confindent that the Democrats have lost a good chunk of independents over the age of 40 and it will take decades to get them back.
Obama, Reid, Pelosi.....thank you ....thank you... thank you.
larry5
I welcome your response.. I always learn from different views (except Fox News) My grandkids do embrace diversity.. with their parents and classmates (although they are young) I have never heard the word Islam out of their mouths..
I am a Vietnam Vet so I did fight for patriotism. I have my personal liberties, independence and peace of mind.. BUT!! old fashion values.. glass bottles in the bathtub, no seat belts, smoking on airplanes, no headgear for Hockey players, concrete walls in auto racing, oh yeah those were the "old fashion values"
Mayabeach - "glass bottles in the bathtub, no seat belts, smoking on airplanes, no headgear for Hockey players, concrete walls in auto racing,"
I'm not sure why you are referring to those things as "values" - sorry, I guess I'm missing something there. Future generations may look back and wonder why were stupid enough to actually use cell phones and petrol-consuming automobiles. But I don't consider these things our "values", so I don't understand what you're saying.
Embracing diversity is not appealing to me - here's the future for your grand-kids if we don't change our thinking:
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2009/07/...
Actually, I'm sorry, that's not the future - that's an American city right now.
How's that change working out for all you blind Obama followers?
Hows it going to be when you all have to buy health care insurance or, pay a fine, or go to jail if you don't? (don't forget to thank Harry)
Hows that job market going, where are all the jobs?
Hows the price of gas doing?
How about all those billions of your money he gave to the insurance companies, are your insurance costs coming down?
How about all those raises for government workers and all those new government jobs, did you get yours?
How about all those raises for congress, they sure deserve, been dong such a good job, did you get your raise?
So, all in all hows that change working out?
The problem today in this country is when any PARTY gets together they are to busy looking for a bad guy and bashing everyone else so they don't come up with any way of really fixing anything.
You guys want to do some good and get elected. Run on a platform with real ideas that will really fix the problems of this country.
We do not need T.V., Radio, Newspapers or anyone running for office to tell us how bad things are, we already know that.
Try coming up with a positive solution for once. That would be REAL CHANGE!
Danny Tarkanian accuses Sue Lowden of flipping on issues, then he claims that he will protect gun rights. Really?
http://media.washingtontimes.com/media/d...
http://media.washingtontimes.com/media/a...
"Dispirited by President Barack Obama's decisive victory in Nevada two years ago..."
Michael, it was about 14 months ago. Wait another 10 months before you say "2 years ago". Obama hasn't even been in office one full year yet. - crabby Grandma.
Yup, sure Grams, and already Obama's spent more than Dubya did in his whole first Presidency, with far less results than Barack projected - let alone what anyone else projected...
Quite simply, this President has written checks he knows he can't cash - at least thats what has happened if we want to talk about the "open" Healthcare reform process we're all experiencing.
I don't believe we can afford much of his hope and change.
Say - how's that cut in medicare workin out for you ?
If you think our community is suffering the worst as a result of the W Bush days you've not seen nothing. Without Harry Reid as Majority Leader in the Senate we lose. We all lose. We lose our opportunity to reinvent this community as an energy mecca and create thousands of good jobs. Don't get so caught up in the politics that you can't be reasonable. Harry Reid MUST get re-elected and it's not about the party affiliation this time. I think Ensign and Heller may even understand that... It's about the economy people.
If you think our community is suffering the worst as a result of Harry and Barry, you are 100% correct.
I guess when you have nothing else to go on, you dip into the bottom of the barrel and bring up that old line that the World will end if Harry is not re-elected.
Desperation is at hand for the supporters of Harry. Now they are saying:
"Harry Reid MUST get re-elected..."
"Without Harry...we lose."
"...be reasonable."
My favorite is:
"We lose our opportunity to reinvent this community..."
Like where has Harry been the last forty (40) years that he has been an elected official???
Wow, VegasActivist...
How much of that 787 billion went towards creating jobs in Nevada's efforts towards becoming the "energy mecca" ?
(note the liberal's interesting choice of words - it wasn't energy capitol, but a "mecca".)
Once again, Obama is working on the third and fourth prorieties, instead of the first few - energy and unemployment.
Unless of course you want to count government jobs created. (Gee, that's real tough to do. Isn't that like most of the definition of "pork" ;-)
Now, everyone wants improvement on healthcare, but to raise taxes during a recovery will CERTAINLY make VegasActivist's prognostication come true - but it'll be on Obama's neck - not Dubya's - to say nothing of ruining Medicare for those folks that have PAID all of their lives.
Yup - Obama is going for the middle class's insurance of the elderly to keep his voters in insuranace. And, THAT would be why the Dems are toast in 11/2010.
Bye-bye blue dogs...care to grow a brain yet ?
A bunch of toothless trash. Tea baggers are just old angry republicans.
White trash with nothing to offer
If these "Seniors" are toothless trash, I would hate to see your mother there Nicky...
Tark baby was on the hate-talk show out of San Diego, (the mayor down there that needed Oscar Goodman to save him from a political corruption charge,) he said Loudung was a liar and raised taxes. Guess the 3 little pigs are fighting each other now.
When so many others have been striped from office or profession Lott, Imus and many others why should Dirty Harry get a free pass. We pay for our mistakes, lets face it, he wrote a book, with a lot of serious thought, knowing how sensitive the issue is, he still included his thoughts. No excuses, or apology will erase this problem he created. Only die hard demo's and people he owns remain loyal. If you dont, can't or wont look at the smoke and mirror ploys of Dirty Harry, then groups like the tea party, telling the truth, are naturally repulsive to you. There is wisdom and knowledge with seniors who represent a large voting block with many friends, be careful who you disrepect.
... Good-LUCK-TeaBAGGERS!!! LMAO!!!
$5 says that picture was taken before 5:00 pm.
Because all of those blue hairs were in bed asleep by 5:30 pm.
A bunch of toothless trash. Tea baggers are just old angry republicans.
White trash with nothing to offer
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WOW Nick who's angry? I'm a bit confused.
We had no terrorism before Desert Storm.
kenoqueen- What rock was lifted so you could babble.. You ever heard of Bierut? I have and been there.. I suppose some Islamic shoe salesman blew that embassy up since no terrorists were around...
Reids campaign manager sounds like a used car salesman wanting you to buy that Yugo.. Never gonna happen...
Dimond= al Queada is running like a swollen river to not meet up with our troops,,so dont assume we cant take them out..Time will tell and a bit of patience...
Anyways anything is better than what is in D.C. running this country,, all talk and no action...
We have no terrorists now in Afghanistan, those words spoken by Martha Coatley who is running for gov in the state of Kookachusetts.
We have terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan, this why we have to spend <600,000,000,000. to fight a guerilla war. This is why the British, Russians, and Macedonians lost there. It is not about weaponry, but intelligence.
As far as the Tea Party is concerned the youngest person in the room was Danny Tarkanian(40-43Y.O.), and second youngest was Sue Lowden(@57Y.O.). So, these elderly, angry white people better start reproducing! Oh, Newsflash! They can't reproduce!
So, they have to attract new people to their organization. Their very positive message is: We are not Dems, and we loath taxes. Well, the wealth of the nation has drastically shifted to the super-rich from the working-class and the working poor.
So good luck selling your ideology. I know it will be a success, because it has worked for thirty years and Americans still want to be duped and lied to.
Why, because we are so gullible! We just love to get back into the conservative fold, and vote against our interests.
Or better yet, don't vote at all, as one poster suggested. That way we can let other people dictate and make the big decisions. That will make the Revolutionary War Null. To refuse to vote is letting others do our thinking for us. Self-determination is one of our only rights, I will not give up mine. There are elections every two years, so vote if you don't like the way things are going. If you don't vote, you have no right to complain.
Why isn't the Sun bringing this story to the readers? A very important Senate election on January 19th in MASS between Democrat(attorney) Martha Coakely and Republican, Scott Brown, that relates directly to Obama/Pelosi/Reid government health care. Coakely is for and Brown against.
This is a BIG story and involves the core of the Democrat party - You must read the latest from Boston: "Scott Brown: Obama not invited to this party!"
Their sending in Bill Clinton now to get another attorney, Martha Coakely elected. Just what we need one more attorney in Washington making more laws to change our lives. This is a preview of what Nevada will have in November.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/politic...
The old dogg just let out the secret that Liberal law makers have been trying to keep quite.
Liberals do not care about our Senior Citizens.
Liberals are about to cut Medicare benefits to Senior Citizens.
Liberals are going to increase taxes that Senior Citizens pay.
Liberals are trying to intimidate Senior Citizens not to speak up.
Liberals want to limit medical treatment to Senior Citizens.
Liberals would like to see Senior Citizens die earlier.
WHY you say??
Because the vast majority of Senior Citizens are conservative and they VOTE!!!
Las Vegas Seniors, as evidenced by the Liberals in this blog, have turned their backs on you. Voting members of the Democratic Party will throw you under the bus anytime you think differently than them. Their words are disguising, demeaning, and demoralizing. Not everyone thinks like them and you are respected. Remember these Liberals at election time. Talk to your friends and neighbors and lets get out the vote. Harry Reid has lost touch with ordinary Nevadans and must go but there are also two more that must go in November. Shelly Berkly (Democrat) in Congressional District 1 and Dina Titus (Democrat) in Congressional District 3. You have strong candidates that are ready to fight for your cause and bring credibility back to Nevada. Go to http://www.thegreenpapers.com/G10/NV for more info for your District. Let's bring fiscal responsibility back to our state in November!
Hopefully, Obama will do another fundraiser for Reid when he's in town next month to check out Aria!Once Obama announces the dates , I'll book my trip!
I love how the author refers to Tea Party Groups as "anti-government". Uh that would be anarchists. Did this guy pass Lit 101?
Or, what he is subtly saying is Government exists to be High Tax, Intrusive, Over-Bearing, Over-Sized and should fight you for your Constitutional Rights at every opportunity. In other words to be an Adversary.
These people believe in LIMITED Governement - not NO Government.
Please get the hyperbole straight. Thanks!
I hear alot trash talk from the Dems but can they explain why the economy took a dive after they won control of congress and the senate. Do they except a 1/4 of the blame since they had control for 2 of the 8 GWB admin. They are the ones who could have done something to help the decline in the economy but that would have looked good for the Republicans and would have made harder to get a Dem in office.
A new poll just came out and Harry Reid is trailing Jeremy Strohmeyer.
Sean Insannity has endorsed Lowden over Tark baby, after talking to local hate talk radio personality.
mrabilty and nick,
It is funny to hear your unwarranted rants and then to hear name calling and then you call the opposition haters when its people like you that can't defend your positions.
The fact is that Reid deserves to be booted because during his time as senator (especially in the last few years) Nevada has gotten less federal dollars. I don't think that the federal government should be able to take and redistribute the others states as they see fit, but that is my position.
Several comments praise Reid for passing health care but it is apparent that Reid will make back door deals that hurt Nevada to get what he wants. That is what it means to be "out of touch".
Please make a comment that answers questions or defends your position. I really don't think you can.
As for the picture, the people in the picture are old but at least these are people that have lived through America's ups and downs. As for the meeting, I wish I would have known about but most of these meetings are during working hours and therefore turnout is not impressive.
When liberal groups meet, I don't scream "hate mongers", I just say they have a different point of view and then wonder if they can defend their position with thoughtful words instead of the ludicrous name calling.
At least these people assembled peacefully, look at the G20 summit and the cars that were set on fire. You have to admit that those were very different approaches.
Someone has the Audacity to blame the Dems for the downfall of the economy. There has been no job growth the last ten years.
Flat or non-existence salary increases over the same time frame as well.
Our law makers have let manufacturing industries continue the exodus to overseas.
Wal-Mart jobs and fast food jobs don't pay as much, and they are not fulfilling. These policies were implemented thirty years ago, by St. Reagan, and his economic team. The GOP "hating workers for thirty years and more" " God Bless US, too bad for you worker".
See that is what is wrong with the GOP, they do not care about average American, and the same goes for Tea Partiers. I know they got a huge crowd there. My goodness, I saw over one hundred people in the sports book yesterday.
Thirty years of destroying U.S. industry.
Now we must look at the last four years.
We must forget about Katrina, and all the other inept operations of the Bush Administration.
Such as the Iraq War.
You May defeat Reid in November, with a lightweight, but our problems will not be solved by the junior Senator from the great state of Nevada. Your victory will be short-lived, because the American people will reject your conservative ideology, because it is outdated, and doesn't serve the interests of most Americans.
So, That is the way it is!
You can Cry!
You can Whine!
You can throw Temper Tantrums!
None of your actions will be fruitful,
Because the World changed with the election of Barack Hussein Obama! The young and minorities got a taste of self-determination.
Once that happened,it will be very hard for the Right Wing Nuts, to regain the levers of Government.
Oh, you may gain some seats in the Senate, but the Dems can always get rid of the filibuster, if it is in the best interest of the country.
So enjoy your victory, because you are winners.
Harry Reid's political career is toast - next topic please.
The Liberal's health care secret just got out:
No healthcare for the elderly, just let them die.
Health care should only be for the young...
A poll came out....Reid is trailing a dark skin negro dialect speaking dude.
I dont think I have ever seen a bigger collection of party kool aid drinkers. They both think we are all a bunch of idiots and judging from the developments over the past few years , they are right.
Actually you were the biggest kool aid drinker here, your like some iratic, irrational,lunatic. Some morphed nazi like creature. You are something else. Whats really interesting is that your are so rabid yet never have a point.
Was Joe Pepitone there?
mrability, I appreciate your point of view, but loser is spelled with one O.
The word looser is a descriptive adjective. You might want to learn how to spell so others will take you a little more seriously.
I knew a liberal gal once who was a "Sore looser."
I was not saying the Dems were the cause of the economic collapse. But they have spent more time pointing fingers at everybody else then doing something about it. The Dems have had control of the Congress and Senate for three years now and despite what the current admin is saying things seem to be getting worse in Vegas. I want Obama to do good at this point so we can get things turned around for the better. The only problem is they like to point blame on somebody else then take responsbility.
mrabilty,
Health care should interest the old since there are projected plans to cut 300billion out of medicare. It should also concern the young because they will pay a larger chunk once the ball gets moving.
In addition you forget that you will be old one day. Still you can't tell the difference between hate and having a different opinion. Why does the opposition have to shut up because of the election of Obama. Name one time that liberals had ever shut up after losing an election. Liberals have the right to assemble and to give their opinions, and guess what, so do conservatives. It is obvious that you don't believe in free speech but that is a right to all (Even if you don't agree).
I have said this before but try debating instead of drawing bogus and unwarranted conclusions.
There is something to be said for the position that if these folks are against the "reform" to subsidize folks health insurance they should reject medicare and buy a insurance private plan.
There is nothing to be said for the position that if these folks are against the "reform" to subsidize folks health insurance they should reject medicare and buy a insurance private plan.
These "folks" have the right to question what is going to happen to their health insurance including Medicare.
I am considering keeping my Blue Cross Blue Shield after age 65, because I believe Medicare will just be the shell of what it is today.
I don't want a government health care specialist (death panel) determining what kind of health care I will receive for the rest of my life.
Agree whole 100% they have a right to question it, in fact more people should. People calling them names and inplying they should "shut their pie holes" are ridiculous, basically trying to shout down anyone they disagree with. More people need to question things.
I think you are a smart man to keep your Blue Cross, medicare will be gone. No doubt about it.
As far as a death panel, we have them with most private insurers any way, they decide what they will and will not cover. Although I do think i get your point, some faceless agency will really decide what we dont need. Quality of care is a great consideration.
What I mean is directed to the "I dont want to help pay for anyone other peoples coverage" crowd.
Medicare is dead, it will change and we better keep and eye on what they are replacing it with.
The insurance companies despite what some people claim ( we are gonna teach them a lesson ) love the idea of millions of new customers paid by Uncle Sam. And demographics is whats really driving this. There is no way on earth the current system can continue , period. Rapidly aging population and double digit yearly rising cost, cant continue not possible.
There are way to many basic questions to even consider this supporting this bill.
And to add to Martin's comment if he doesn't mind.
Medicare was in financial trouble before the proposed health care reform. But instead of fixing Medicare, there are massive cuts and the addition of additional thousands if not millions of new enrollments in the system.
In addition, there are Physicians and clinics such as the Mayo clinic that will no longer take Medicare patients.
It appears that all that Obama's health care bill will do is create a substandard health care system out of Medicare...
I dont ever mind intelligent additions, thank you.
We've got a mess on our hands and it is amazing how many people think just doing something is a solution without really looking at it. Does anyone know how they plan to address the VA health system? Is that in the bill, it is a massive program I cant believe it wouldnt be.
I agree mrability, I also use it and have been pleased with them. In fact last time I went in the Dr spent 45 mins with me, try that at a private practice!
I have a VA medical card but have never used it.
mrability is part of the VA system and it worked great for him.
Do you think it would work for me also???
Yep Larry, I have had good experiences with them and honestly , they have gone above what private sector clinics or Dr have in many cases, and actually faster in most cases, none of the go here for this the here for that. The primary care Dr I have is great last time I saw him he spend 45 min acrually asking questions, checking and explaining his thoughts. Moreover he pegged the problem that was verified by blood work and x rays he ordered (all done within 30 mins of him ordering them)
HEY! Let's ALL get a VA medical card! There's your answer to the health care mess. It sounds like this Government run program is a winner.
BTW...
what a PERFECT PHOTO we have at the top of the page for a caption contest... It looks like the Day Room at an Old Folks Home, where they are being entertained by an accordionist; and they are impressed! Gramma is whispering to the lady next to her "that young man plays a hella mean squeezebox."
Hey gmag if your a vet get one.
BTW, maybe those old people should kill themselves so your not bothered by the sight of some old people voicing their opinions.
gmager... Calm down, someday you will be looking like those elderly folks. I wish my parents were still alive to be in that picture. We owe that generation an awful lot.
I remember when I was young thinking that when our generation came of age, we would solve all of the problems in the world. I am afraid all we did was screw it up for our children...
Our elders just might know a little more then what we usually give them credit for...
Jeez you kids, get a grip! I was just poking a little fun. Larry, you are correct, we owe that generation an awful lot. Now, you and Martin have a brew and lighten up.
mrability,
My parents did not have a health car. They drove Fords most of their lives...