Harry Reid leads push to end nuke waste project Nevada never wanted
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The Obama administration promised Monday it would withdraw the application to open a nuclear waste repository at Yucca Mountain.
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Yucca Mountain
After all the years spent fighting the proposed Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository, a phone call on a Wednesday in July between the Senate majority leader and the new energy secretary turned the tide.
The Senate was facing a late-night vote on the Energy Department’s 2010 spending plan, and Harry Reid, the Democratic leader, had the backing of his colleagues to slash funding for the Nuclear Regulatory Commission’s review of a license for the nuclear waste dump.
Reid picked up the phone and got Energy Secretary Steven Chu on the line.
Although President Barack Obama was no friend of Yucca Mountain, Chu was intrigued by the scientific lessons that could be learned studying the nation’s 25-year attempt to build a nuclear waste repository in the Nevada desert. Chu, a Nobel laureate, had said repeatedly since joining Obama’s Cabinet that although Yucca Mountain was no longer an option, he saw value in pressing on with its license application before the commission — a prospect that sent shudders through Nevada’s anti-dump contingency.
Reid had other plans. He believed the licensing process had to end and wanted to pare Obama’s budget for that review.
The conversation between Reid and Chu was brief, as they often are with the majority leader. When the call ended, Reid told his staff what had transpired.
“Chu’s on board to zero out Yucca,” he said, referring to the coming year’s budget.
From that moment on, the cards were stacked against a dump at Yucca: no money, no project.
Much later, Chu’s office would say it came to understand that pursuing a license for the sake of science wouldn’t be worth the cost.
Like so many decisions in Washington, the one made last week to pull the plug on Yucca Mountain’s license application was the product of painstaking deal-making, crafted with carrots and sticks needed for compromise.
It was forged in part by political pressures — a new president keeping his vow to a state that helped elect him, while boosting a chief ally, the majority leader, who faces a difficult re-election race.
The decision also highlights Obama’s pragmatic streak as he forced the powerful nuclear industry to accept demise of a dump at Yucca while also handing out major sweeteners to the industry, a key ally.
As the Obama administration unveiled plans for Yucca last week, it also announced $36 billion in new federal loan guarantees for construction of nuclear plants. Moreover, the industry was given a seat on the administration’s new commission that will spend 18 months studying alternatives.
Kevin Kamps, a longtime anti-nuclear watchdog at Beyond Nuclear, said the exchange was a reminder that “the nuclear power industry is one of the most powerful players in Washington.”
“In my mind, that’s kind of a trade-off: The Obama administration is following through on its promise to Nevada on Yucca while giving this windfall to the nuclear industry,” Kamps said.
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When Chu first began expressing desire to keep the Yucca license intact, his comments were considered missteps by a politically naive professor-turned Washington player — a new Cabinet secretary not adhering to the talking points.
But Chu’s belief there was value in pursuing a license for a Yucca repository appeared deeply felt.
“Even as we bring an orderly end to the Yucca Mountain project, the department believes that the license application process can offer useful guidance on how the NRC will approach future applications that could help us toward securing alternatives to Yucca Mountain,” Chu said in a May statement as the president unveiled his first budget.
That worried Yucca Mountain’s foes, particularly staff at Nevada’s Agency for Nuclear Projects, which had fought the dump for decades. If the license were allowed to proceed, a new administration, perhaps without Reid as majority leader, could revive the project.
Chu’s task was complicated by the fact that the government, by law, is responsible for the waste under a deal reached with industry in 1982. Companies have been successfully suing the federal government for failing to open Yucca Mountain, and killing the project could cost billions more.
Meanwhile, the nuclear industry needed to reassure investors that the death of a Yucca dump would not impede the construction of nuclear plants or reverse the government’s commitment to take nuclear waste off the industry’s hands.
But waste was only part of the industry’s problem. New plants are expensive, costing as much as $10 billion each, and the industry needed money to finance construction at a time when Wall Street credit had dried up.
Federal loan guarantees for nuclear plant construction had been a topic of conversation between the industry and Obama long before he became president. During the presidential campaign, the Nuclear Energy Institute, the industry’s main lobby, brought candidate Obama its wish list.
“Industry was well engaged with the administration on loan guarantees,” institute spokesman John Keeley said.
Obama, from Illinois, is in favor of nuclear power. Unlike Nevada, Illinois is home to nuclear power plants and has more waste stored at plants than any other state.
Obama’s first budget, presented in 2009, was a lesson in compromise. He slashed Yucca Mountain’s budget, allowed the licensing process to continue and called for a national panel to study alternatives.
It didn’t take the dramatic steps some had expected, but pro- and anti-Yucca forces seemed satisfied.
Reid initially accepted the administration’s path, deferring to the Nobel-winning energy secretary’s pursuit of scientific inquiry. But Reid quickly understood that route was not good enough for Nevada and the license must be pulled to guarantee the project’s demise.
Reid pushed to end the project and ensure Allison Macfarlane, a George Mason University professor who has conducted extensive nuclear waste research, was appointed to the panel studying alternatives. Macfarlane is a respected expert who has raised crucial questions about the storage of nuclear waste at Yucca Mountain.
These decisions combined to create a Washington chess game — each side finding ways to advance its goals as the other positioned itself.
Reid wasn’t involved in the loan guarantees for the industry. He has the needed leverage. If the industry hopes to win congressional approval for the beefed-up loan package in Obama’s budget, it will need to go through the majority leader.
Reid is not opposed to incentives for nuclear power “if they’re provided in the context of significant progress on national renewable energy development and part of a compromise clean energy and climate bill that creates jobs and makes us more energy independent,” his spokesman said.
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After Reid secured Chu’s commitment to kill Yucca’s budget, his staff asked whether the White House was also onboard.
Reid sealed the deal with Obama’s senior advisers. The next day, the senator’s office issue a news release stating that Obama would zero out dump development funding in 2011.
When the president unveiled his proposed 2011 budget last week, Yucca’s funding had been eliminated and the administration would “take steps” to withdraw the license. Again, the president had made a pragmatic decision to please all sides: Yucca’s license would be pulled but the industry’s loan guarantees, with the addition of $36 billion, would triple.
The energy secretary played his role by announcing simultaneously that the license application would be withdrawn within 30 days, sooner than some had expected.
Chu, who had balked in December at having the project’s budget eliminated, succeeded in shifting as much as $55 million to another Energy Department office so he could close the Yucca project in an orderly way that preserves the scientific research.
As for Chu’s earlier intent to allow the repository process to play out? A spokeswoman said Friday the department decided it was not worth it.
“During the budget process, the department concluded that any information gained from continuing the license application would not outweigh the cost,” spokeswoman Stephanie Mueller said.
“We have begun the process of withdrawing the application to focus our resources on closing down the Yucca site and charting a new path forward through the blue-ribbon commission.”
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Lowden wants yucca
"Chu, a Nobel laureate, had said repeatedly ... he saw value in pressing on with its license application before the commission -- a prospect that sent shudders through Nevada's anti-dump contingency."
Much later, Chu's office would say it came to understand that pursuing a license for the sake of science wouldn't be worth the cost.
"Like so many decisions in Washington, the one made last week to pull the plug on Yucca Mountain's license application was the product of painstaking deal-making, crafted with carrots and sticks needed for compromise."
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So it is true that when this goes to Federal Court to be resolved the only basis that Obama, Reid and Chu have is a political decision not a sound science decision.
Whether you are for or against Yucca you can not be for the backroom deals of Washington.
This political deal though still does not change the NWPA the current law
This political deal though still does not change the potential for Congress to fund it per the NWPA.
When in court the sound science will be the critieria not Reid's re-election.
Contray to Reid's wishs YUCCA is not dead until the law is change.
While this may sell for Reid in Nevada this will not help Obama in the rest of the country
"Chu's belief there was value in pursuing a license for a Yucca repository appeared deeply felt."
"Even as we bring an orderly end to the Yucca Mountain project, the department believes that the license application process can offer useful guidance on how the NRC will approach future applications that could help us toward securing alternatives to Yucca Mountain," Chu said in a May [2009] statement as the president unveiled his first budget."
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We now have a huge example of an Obama broken promise to be true to Sound Science.
Obama has repeatedly said about "Sound Science"
"It is about ensuring that scientific data is never distorted or concealed to serve a political agenda and that we make facts, not ideology."
That line needs repeating
"It is about ensuring that scientific data is never distorted or concealed to serve a political agenda and that we make facts, not ideology."
If Obama is truly committed to Sound Science he would allow the Yucca Mountain License Application be adjudicated by the NRC and not conceal the results.
Most disturbing is Reid's consistent denigration of the quality science being produce by America's ten National Laboratories and the USGS. These Obama lead organizations are on the forefront of every worldwide scientific endeavor know to man and are being besmirch by Harry Reid and Nevada.
It is abundantly clear that Harry Reid and Obama have a non-transparent cloakroom handshake to support Harry Reid re-election.
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This is a real failure to LEAD whether you are for or against YUCCA
This article bought and paid for by the Campaign to Re-elect Harry Ried.
""During the budget process, the department concluded that any information gained from continuing the license application would not outweigh the cost," spokeswoman Stephanie Mueller said."
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We will have a good time reading the E-mails on the Formal Decision Making process; Where is the Enviromental Impact Statement; Where is the "Record of Decision" - Did DOE lawyers or Carol Browner decide they can blow them off
Where are are all the E-mails, The NEI will be able to use the FOIA before going to the Federal Courts
between Reid and the unions they have killed at least 30,000 good paying jobs at NTS and YUCCA over the last 20 years. First they priced the labs out, now they kill yucca after its completed.
I was told he was from searchlight but no Nevadan would kill jobs like that.
We throw away over $9 Billion in investment to try and help re elect a failed Senator. Don't you just love it?
Thanks Harry and all the liberal idiots out there who have no vision for the future of Las Vegas and for Clark County!
We had the opportunity and we still do, to build up a new industry that will bring innovative changes to the nuclear industry world-wide!
To imagine the employment opportunities to be given to our citizens of Clark County and to the state of Nevada in general is untold. We would not only have employees at the Yucca site, but we would have small business operations springing up throughout the state that would cater to the unique needs of this industry, from small mom & pop shops catering to the employees. To larger small businesses catering to the logistical needs of this industry.
Imagine your children going to college and getting advanced degrees in science or engineering. Then imagine watching your grandchildren grow up because your children aided by a new industry in Clark County decided to stay in their home state to raise their family because there is a future.
Not a menial future of working for tips until they are in their late 60's as a cocktail waitress or bartender, housekeeper, but a career that could impact the world's ability to manage the cleanest energy source there is. One that doesn't emit carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.
This is not dead. Dirty Harry is dead in this state this year, he will be taking his quarter of a million dollar senatorial retirement and most probably relocated permanently to K Street in the District of Criminals to be a lobbyist. That is fine by me, for we need new leaders. We need Independents with a vision.
There is one Independent emerging in Clark County with a vision for us, and he is running for the office of Clark County Commissioner District F. A real Independent with a vision for us and for our children! We are in dire straits now with those will zero vision for our future. We need to move on with life and expand our focus and get away from the lifestyle of which our children may get stuck in of working till their mid sixties for tips! I want my children and grandchildren to have careers that can impact the world! I want Independents to run this country and this county with visions for our future not the tired rhetoric of the corrupt demorats and the skirt chasing republicans! I sincerely do want a true, repeat a true "hope and change" not lip service!
Oxymoron headline "Harry Reid" and "leads".
"When Chu first began expressing desire to keep the Yucca license intact, his comments were considered missteps by a politically naive professor-turned Washington player -- a new Cabinet secretary not adhering to the talking points."
This is a good point by Lisa.
This Yucca mtn was all political driven and not science driven.
Which directly contradicts editorials by the Sun that say that Obama adminstration's decision in areas like this will be science driven and not political driven.
Thanks for the 411, Lisa.
When will America wake up and face the facts?
Liberals have done nothing but harm to America and American's since their inception. Closing Yucca is just another example of stupidity and their lunacy. The best part of this is for those of us with common sense know Yucca will be funded, they may not be telling their followers but liberals know closing Yucca will cost them more votes than it will generate by them claiming to stop the funding.
What people fail to realize is that they're politicians and they will lie, cheat, steal, and tell the public whatever suits them all in attempt to get reelected. Sit back and listen to the lie of the day, it will change hourly or whenever the venue changes and they will tell you what you want to hear. They'll never answer a question with a direct answer; they'll speak with a forked tongue and tell you the riddle of the day, they're career politicians. They've told the lie for so long, they believe it to be factual and truthful.
It's about time to vote the idiots out of office and put normal people in office who actually work for a living and don't rely on special interest groups or kowtow to the all mighty dollar. Look at Al Gore, he has told the biggest lie of times and has sucked a few hundred million from our taxes telling his lie; America is done with your lies and you're being voted of office.
CHU is a gutless coward that bows down to Reid and Obama. His Nobel Prize winning medal must have an inch of tarnish from the lack of Science displayed in this decision.
He actually signed a letter promoting Yucca Mountain before he became Energy Secretary to the Messiah and Harry the Hatchet Man!
Reid got what he wanted, but pulling the license is just plain stupid.
DOE was TWO YEARS from completing the investigation via the NRC. By pulling the license, they violate the Nuclear Waste Policy act and can now be sued by the Power Companies to the tune of tens of BILLIONS per year (and btw, this comes out of YOUR tax dollars).
In retrospect, it only cost 200 million per year to keep the investigation going.
Not only that, ALL the data accumulated over the last seven years, plus the two years it took to create the license application is all WASTED!
This just doesn't make scientific sense. And this coming from an administration that stated:
"I will restore the basic principle that government decisions should be based on the best-available, scientifically valid evidence and not on the ideological predispositions of agency officials or political appointees. More broadly, I am committed to creating a transparent and connected democracy, using cutting-edge technologies to provide a new level of transparency, accountability, and participation for America's citizens." (Direct quote from the Messiah)
What a joke. Reid, Obama, Chu, you should all be publicly stoned for wasting tax payer's money, all just to get one man re-elected.
Amazing
More gory details can be read at http://aBadReid.com
Bad Reid
Bad Senator
First, Thank you Harry Reid for working for a better future for my children.
Second, liberals or libs in Fox News terms are responsible for clean rivers in our cities, emission systems and safety equipment in our cars. Corporate for profit America would have never done these things on their own.
I am old enough to remember what our cars smelled like in the 60s and 70s and watching rivers catching fire on my TV when I was a young man. Maybe that is why I am a liberal.
Nevada and America need Harry Reid.
Again Thank you Harry Reid for fighting for what is right for America, progress.
Obama promised to support clean, safe nuclear power plants in several speeches. He traveled to southern Ohio and promised to support USEC's efforts to secure federal loans from teh DOE to build a nuclear reactor there...but reneged on the deal after he was elected....killed thousand of potential high paying jobs for the economically depressed region of Ohio. Now he has done it again with Yucca. I have never seen a poll of the people of Nevada on their thoughts about Yucca...the only big mouths I have heard that oppose it are the big mouths in the teachers union, who seem lately to care more about their contracts than the students they teach.
Redneck_43, obviously reasonable people can differ on politics and policy, but I wonder how long you have lived here. I have seen dozens of polls over the years showing that just about the only people who support Yucca Mountain are in rural Nevada, where they don't happen to care whether the stuff is being transported near populated areas and vulnerable to terrorist threats.
As to the above criticism that this was paid for by Harry Reid's reelection campaign, three points:
1. It is a news story, reporting what happened.
2. If you want to say that, you had better get over to the R-J site and say that everything there is paid for by the Republican party (which is not true--the R-J sold out for no money).
3. If that is your attitude, then of course you planned to vote against Reid anyway. Too bad. To replace one of the greatest senators in Nevada history with one of the intellectual pygmies running against him would be a disaster.
Great example of Searchlight Harry leading the lemmings to the sea. History will record that this among other items involving Nuclear will lead this country to a third world class nation. Stupid is as stupid does and Harry is a glowing example of just that!!!!
Professor Green is right.
Lisa properly reported that was a political decision to end Yucca and not a result of science, like from a non-bais group of members with science members who issued a report saying that Yucca is unsafe.
What she did not report was that this political decision broke legal contracts and that many lawsuits will occur because of that.
LOL The Headline should read: Harry Reid tries to buy votes by..... The Las Vegas Sun tries their hardest to portray Harry "Backdoor" Reid as a leader. They really should rename this paper to "The Progressive Chronicles."
SgtRock, I'm still waiting for scientists to agree! Some have said Yucca Mountain is fine, others have said it's a ticking time bomb. It's like Harry Truman's old line about wanting a one-handed economist so he didn't keep hearing, "On the other hand."
I was actually pleased to see the decision process laid out the way it was in this article. I was pleased because it contained none of the fantasy material usually spouted in articles on this topic about this proposed project being a clear and present danger to the health of Nevadans.
The Environmental Impact Statement(s) and license application Safety Analysis Report suggested this was not so, but the review by an independent expert team at the NRC is being halted, meaning there is no longer an independent but credible way to confirm or deny these safety claims.
I find it all very sad and short-sighted, but do not question the right of elected officials to change national policy. They are elected to detrmine national policy, so, so be it.
But I like articles like this that show how policy making is done. It is yet another example of political sausage-making, and no doubt will create scores of new political vegetarians.
Too little TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO late Harry. Now that your political future is at stake. We do not care what you do, how you do it, how much outside money you bring in, how many bill boards you put up............................ain't gonna happen!!!!!
I find it all very sad and short-sighted, but do not question the right of elected officials to change national policy.
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Except it is against the NWPA
Have any of you ever toured this great state or flown across is. Besides Vegas and Carson and a few other towns this state is deserted and uninhabitable. If you looked at a map of the United States - Nevada would be a perfect spot for the stuff.
Yucca could be so much more than storage with funding. Simply killing funding is killing the possibilities.
So speak for yourself when you say Nevada doesn't want it. I say bring it - along with the money that goes with it.
Where is the stuff now? It's in someones back yard, Is it killing em? - No, because we are smarter than that.
Look at the technologies we have come up with in 100 year. Do you people really think we won't have a better idea for this stuff in the next 100. The media and Harry have spun this one way out there.
Someone tell Alaska oil is dangerous, dirty, gross and worthless, because that is what Russia thought when they sold it to us.
DHVincent, Senator Reid has been fighting this since he got to Washington. FYI, even John Ensign opposed it. In fact, even JIM GIBBONS opposed it. Now if someone as intelligent as Reid and dim-witted as Gibbons could agree on this, I think it's a little more than shoring up a political base.
The RJ & Sun never wanted Yucca Mt. so the politicians had to not want it! It is a perfect place for the waste esp. if we built plants to use the energy-oh well whats money!
Harry has very little time to pour some pork into Nevada to help the economy or he has no chance at all. The backlash against incumbents will bury even Harry!
My, my Harry.. You were so quick to agree to stick it here in the early 80's and could have gotten Nevada billions of dollars every year for them to stick it here. You didnt even ask for that. Now you want to get rid of it. Your done Reid. The name Reid has brought disgrace to Nevada, like Ensign, Sandoval and Gibbons. Did I leave anyone out? Oh yeah, Titus, Buckley, Horsford, Hardy, Raggio.. The nations most inept legislature coupled with the worst governor ever. Keep up the good work Reid, Nevadans love you!
OH! The hand-wringing by the RIGHT!
I hear you saying "We'd literally do ANYTHING for money".
Thanks Harry! We'd rather explore RECYCLING of nuclear waste than have it buried in our own backyard in trade for cash.
Michael Green, thank you for some common sense.
And for reminding the RIGHT! that Gibbons and Ensign, the criminal dynamic duo from the RIGHT!,
OPPOSED yucca, AND that Harry has been fighting it since he got to Washington. He didn't wake up last week and think "hey, if I oppose Yucca, it will help me politically."
Oh and we love that our Washington wasted 20+ billion dollars on that stupid study. Nevada could of gotten that money and saved it. It would of amounted to like 30 billion today if invested properly. THANKS FOR NOTHING REID. Time to retire. Another lawyer mucking up things for the middle class. I wasnt even a lawyer and I was one of the greatest presidents that ever was.
There have been a lot of controversy related to the Yucca Mountain Project. When I saw an anti Yucca Project on a TV commercial in 2001, it portrayed a truck dumping barrels of radioactive waste in an open pit, just like it was dumping truck full of trash. Not knowing anything about the project at that time, I got scared and mad and also clamored for the scapping of the project. But after about a year I had the chance to go on a public tour at the site. There I saw a totally different picture than what it was portrayed on the TV commercial. Upon reading a few pages of pamphlets provided to the visiting public, I learned a lot about the project. The project site is located inside the Nevada Test Site which is already famous world wide for its nuclear tests. When I visited the Atomic Testing Museum in Las Vegas, I learned that over 900 atmospheric and under ground nuclear bomb tests where done at the site until 1992. So now I wonder why hundreds of live nuclear bomb tests where allowed at the site but a much less dangerous spent nuclear fuel can't be stored miles underground in a thick, solid metal and engineered container. If the Nevada residents are just educated and not misinformed by politicians, the majority would have favored the project. But a lot think that if nuclear waste is stored at the Yucca Mountain, Nevada residents will "glow" and our drinking water will be contaminated. Such fear is the result of the misinformation sponsored mostly by politicians so their opposition to the project will be viewed by ignorant voters just like a knight in a shining armor coming to their rescue. I guess it worked during past elections, but may not be this November. The staggering unemployment and housing foreclosures in Las Vegas may have changed Nevada residents view about the project. At lot are looking for a job that even those with PHD's, master's degrees, and bachelor's degrees were applying for any position at the pool side restaurant at the Palm's Hotel. The economic benefit of of the Yucca Mountain Projet to Nevada would have been in billions of dollars annually and would have employed tens of thousands of Nevadans both directly and indirectly. It would probably open a new industry in recycling nuclear waste and would put Nevada ahead in nuclear technology. But the will never happen now because of the shortsightedness of our Nevada politicians, especially Senator Reid.
The leading republican to take Harry's Senate seat served as a Yucca-promoting tour guide.
She would like nothing more than to roll over and take all the nuclear waste she could get her hands onto.
I thought nuclear waste was safe in the caskets. Now, suddenly, the nuclear industry wants us to believe it's only safe in Yucca Mountain.
If it's not safe in the caskets, it's not safe for transport.
I just had a thought, stick in in tea bagger Palin's Alaska. More specifically, stick it in Frank Murkowski's back yard so he can enjoy it.
"The leading republican to take Harry's Senate seat..."
Now if that's not an open ended statement...
Anyone running against Harry would be in the lead...
@marcvegas -
"The economic benefit of of the Yucca Mountain Projet [sic] to Nevada would have been in billions of dollars annually and would have employed tens of thousands of Nevadans both directly and indirectly."
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That's about as hyperbolic a speculative, simplistic overstatement as they come.
Not to dismiss your observation about how the respective partisans portray the YMP. To opponents it's a "nuke waste DUMP," whereas to apologists it's a benign and safe "REPOSITORY."
Neither is true.
The future for nuclear waste is recyling/reprocessing - not burying. Even if Yucca were opened tomorrow, it is vastly too small to handle what there already is let alone what is being produced.
"France now reprocesses well over 1000 metric tons of spent fuel every year without incident at the La Hague chemical complex, at the head of Normandy's wind-blasted Cotentin peninsula. La Hague receives all the spent fuel rods from France's 59 reactors. The sprawling facility, operated by the state-controlled nuclear giant Areva, has racked up a good, if not unblemished, environmental record."
Full story here: http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/nuclear/...
Obviuously we aren't quite as bright or forward looking as the French.
@texexnv -
Thank you.
The YMP was conceived at a time long ago when [1] Nevada was indeed a demographic and political backwater and [2] when our society more or less unreflectively deemed it OK to just bury anything and everything we otherwise didn't simply pout out onto the ground or into rivers or oceans.
Those days are rightfully gone.
The section of the NWPA quoted is ancient history. It expired when Congress chose Yucca Mountain in 2002. What's your point?
Prior to being Secretary of Energy, Chu agreed with the other National Lab directors that Yucca was suitable for waste storage. Now that he owes his allegiance to a Chicago politician with zero experience making decisions, he changes his mind. So much for being above petty politics by being a Nobel prize winner.
The description of the budgetary process in this story is like a criminal confessing on TV. Obama's administration is trying to make the case that because it has a Blue Ribbon panel they are still in compliance with the NWPA. This story gives any judicial intervenor ample evidence that this is not true.
Further, this effort if successful will cost the American taxpayer over $100 billion, and perhaps up to $500 billion. This sure is a lot for 2 million residents of Nevada. The rest of America should be livid, and demand that Nevadans pay the total legal bill since it is only for reelection of Senator Reid.
And where will Nevada store its share of national defense waste? Where will Las Vegas store its thousands of spent nuclear fuel assemblies that provides its electricity? The other states would be justified in shipping the stuff to the Strip and dropping it off in front of the Sun.
Finally, the worst thing about Obama's "Emperors New Clothes" budget is that there is no legal basis for his budget. Any federal law is now at the whim of the President. This means any federal law lasts at most 8 years. Whether you are for or against Yucca Mountain, you should be demanding that the law be changed rather than slight of hand. This is not Democrats vs Republicans, but the American Constitution against crass political favor of unprecedented proportions.
Kill Yucca Mountain if you want, but do it legally!
DHVincent, The Washington Post did a hilarious article about Ensign some years ago. He was going to each Republican senator's office with a binder to tell them how evil Yucca Mountain was, and when the vote came, he got ... none. Zilch. As for Gibbons, the only people he influences are legislators afraid to raise taxes and women with no taste in men.
texexnv:
Excuse me, but even after reprocessing, there is plenty of unusable nuclear waste remaining. Less than without reprocessing, for sure, but significant amounts that require storage. I agree with you - reprocessing should be done, but this does not eliminate an eventual permanent repository.
Look a bit further - your beloved French are actively pursuing a permanent repository in clay. They have a large scientific program investigating it just like DOE did at Yucca. Just wait a few years, when they choose a site, there will be NIMBYs crawling out of the woodwork, just like in this country.
Thank you Senator Reid.....Thank you President Obama....
It's great news that Yucca is dead. Its been a long time coming! Time to move on to other business more important that Yucca...
Is the Wolf filling in for teenster this evening???
mrb - all valid points. If you read the piece I offered you would see that breeder reactors are also needed.
Nonetheless, burial is the LAST step is their methodology in dealing with the waste - not the FIRST as we are/were attempting with Yucca.
Obviously there have been the usual tremendous blunders by the government and industry to effectively, efficiently, and environmentally deal with all types of waste we make. Yucca was developed solely as a cheap way for industry to avoid the tremendous costs of dealing with the waste they produced by shifting the burden to the taxpayer abetted by Congress and a President who were wanting their political contributions.
$30 billion later we still don't have even the basics the French have deveoped other than a hole in a mountain. Quite typical....
Thank you Harry Reid, job well done.
So Yucca Mtn has no radiation since the 1960's, idiots how long does radiation last, could be 50 or more years so Yucca Mtn won't close and those of you that are not from here please go back to California and enjoy the subshine, total idiots if u don't understand radiation, jackasses.
And I still state jackasses and idiots.
Reid, this time maybe you'll get it right!
In either case, your Gone, Good Riddance, Forgotten!
I agree with Mr. van Luik, who is one of the few people on these blogs who knows what he's talking about. The rest is all sound and fury signifying nothing.
@Gordon:
You need to take davelv's advice and reread the NWPA; I would recommend paying special attention to the sequencing obvious in that law. The role of the president is clearly delineated with respect to when a president can intervene in accordance with the law, and that time has clearly passed.
It should be obvious to anyone that ordering DOE to withdraw the license application would have been a done deal from Day One if the president had such authority at this stage. As it is, the current administration, including its Secretary of Energy, must resort to death by budget cuts and backroom deals. Also, it must run afoul of massive lawsuits by the nuclear utilities, to the tune of $50 to $100 billion dollars, some estimates say (e.g., the Department of Justice estimate).
As far as quoting chapter and verse are concerned, Gordon, I would suggest looking at Section 119 of the NWPA. That is the aspect of this sad affair that has yet to play itself out. Then come and talk to me about the intent of the NWPA and the powers granted under it.
Good thing Dirty Harry doesn't have a wooden nose like pinnochio,everybody would be able to see what a liar he is for taking credit for something that hasn't really happened yet. I hope he isn't putting all his eggs in one basket on this one, hoping it will get him re elected. This man could care less about Nevada, what he cares about is Harrys' wallet. If there was money that could hide somewhere to let this happen it would be done, but the money would be too big to hide is the reason Dirty Harry is all about taking credit for shutting the project down.People are finally waking up and seeing the truth behind Dirty Harry and he won't be around after November.
What does France do, since they run on 94% nuclear power? It's not like they dump it on some grape fields to help them grow? They recycle the crap as much as they can and store it, and it is still a lot cheaper than the alternatives. Come on people, just figure out how someone else solves a problem well...
http://www.cite-sciences.fr/francais/ala...
teamster....
Shame on you! You have Rhooster about ready to blow a gasket. The poor guy is close to the edge. He's convinced himself that Harry Reid has done a terrible job as our senator, and he's also under the false assumption that Harry will not win re-election come November.....
Be nice to Rhooster! He needs all the help & encouragement that he can get.....
He's not a bad guy. Just a guy that has been blinded by all that propaganda from the right! He believes all that "fair & balanced" crap that FOX NEWS and right-wing talk radio spews out daily....
Rhooster, like most right-wingers on this board, will tell you that Harry is going to lose in November but he can't come up with the name of the Republican who's going to beat Harry....
That because none of the GOP candidates out there have what it takes to beat Harry. Look for the various Republican candidates to beat each other up in this Spring's primary. They will spend most of their campaign money going against each other, and they will be poorer than poor come general election time...
Of course, the state GOP has no money. Any money that is used in the general election will come from the out-side. You won't hear Rhooster & others talk about that, however....
Some things never change....
Another lame attempt at the Reid machine to try and garner votes. The Yucca Mountain issue has been simmering for years. I love how all the sudden Dirty Harry is gonna try and use this to his advantage! YOUR DONE REID!!!
Yeah, Sherwin. People don't realize that most of our electricity comes from burning coal. You need to burn a pound of coal to keep your TV set on for 4 hours. Coal ash is a bigger problem than used nuclear fuel rods.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4...
In the last 30 years the state of Nevada has experienced 3 major recessions, the latest being the worst. It would seem that our state politicians would learn from past history that our states economy needs to be diversified. As long as the gaming lobby controls state politics, I don't see a change coming in the near future. If a state politicians came out in support of Yucca Mtn. it would mean political suicide for them. The tourism and gaming industry in this state see's Yucca Mtn. as a liability rather than an economic boom. The Nevada Test Site tested Nuclear weapons for 50 years and gaming and tourism did just fine. The Test Site also dumped billions of dollars into the local economy. As we move to develop renewable energy, Nuclear power will be part of the equation like it or not. The Nuclear waste that is developed will be reprocessed in time, which will lead to more high tech jobs. I choose to fear the lost opportunity, rather than the fear of storing the Nuclear waste.
Well said sheiselb....
Well, we just wont have any more nuke plants. Cant generate more waste without a place to put the stuff. There aren't many areas as remote and agriculturally useless as Nevada. This is not going to be built in New York state or California for sure so there aren't many other options.
Harry what's wrong?
@BobbyG:
Nice try, but you're not quite correct on either point.
Truth is, Nevada has repeatedly been offered benefits, as recently as 2008. An amendment to S.3036 (I think it was the Lieberman-Warner climate change bill) offered by a group of senators would have awarded Nevada $100 million annually during the current licensing phase (about 4 years), $250 million annually during the construction phase if NRC granted the license (about 8-10 years), and $500 million annually thereafter while the repository was in operation (possibly 35-75 years, and maybe beyond).
So, while you are right to say that "billions annually" may be hyperbolic, it is not without an element of truth; Nevada would have been awarded billions over the course of many years. The only stipulation was that Nevada could not use that money to obstruct the process in any way; the state was welcome to use its own money, just not the money awarded by Congress.
Needless to say, Harry Reid made sure that this amendment never saw the light of day (through a Majority Leader privilege called "filling the tree," which Reid has allegedly abused to unprecedented effect).
Also, you are simply wrong to chalk up the siting decision behind Yucca Mountain to simple politics. Any examination of the record shows the deliberation and intensive scientific study that went into siting the repository at Yucca Mountain, especially when you look at the particulars of the other proposed sites. And even if politics did play a role, that fact is irrelevant to the scientific merits of the site, which should be decided by NRC and not budgetary fiat and defiance of the Nuclear Waste Policy Act.
As others have said on these blogs, the proper way to "kill the project" is to change the law, pure and simple.
NEVADA: Harry Reid's Disney World. OMG r-u folks going to re-elect this buffoon? Do you folks want him and Pelosi to fudge-up the rest of the U.S. the way they have done your states? Just in case you missed it, which I am sure the gullible Nevada public has, the "Canadian Premier Flys to U.S. for Heart Surgery, see http://www.healthreformscam.com/category...
The 59-year-old Conservative needed health care which was not timely available in Canada.
WAKE UP FOOLS