Republican winners and losers in a debate on ‘Face to Face’
Friday, Feb. 5, 2010 | 2 a.m.
Beyond the strangeness of Danny Tarkanian arriving late and the obviousness of Sue Lowden’s avoidance, this week’s inaugural televised debate in the GOP Senate scrum had its illuminating moments.
We had four of the dozen or so — the former commander of the USS Cole, Kirk Lippold, is the latest to float his name — on “Face to Face” this week, and despite the short time, a few things became clear:
• Who was that guy? John Chachas, the self-funding Wall Streeter who has returned to Main Street to run for the Senate, showed the most depth of any of the four — Tarkanian, state Sen. Mark Amodei and ex-Assemblywoman Sharron Angle.
Chachas talked with facility about the economy (“25 percent structural unemployment” and so on) and outlined what is antithetical to his philosophy (“Harry Reid speaks for big government”) and outlined the only truly original idea, albeit a controversial one (getting the BLM to give up much of its land so it could be sold, an idea Tarkanian recently pilfered).
Chachas, who may seem elitist to some, also showed a knack for using language that the electorate might cotton to: “I am very respectful of their public service,” he said of Angle and Amodei, “But Washington is essentially populated by politicians ... too few people who want to tell the truth and the American people are angry because they have been talked to like children for too long.”
Chachas told the Nevada News Bureau last month of his opponents, “None of them have said an original word other than rehashing what the NRSC already publishes on this stuff.”
Placed next to three of them Wednesday, he and they backed that up. (Only bad moment: He had a deer-in-headlights look when I asked him about the rural water project, eventually stammering lamely that he won’t support it until “the people in the North” do.)
Still, local Republicans have to ask themselves an uncomfortable question: What if a carpetbagger is the best candidate to defeat Reid?
• Is having a base and a cliché collection enough to win? The debate reinforced that question about Angle, who has fired up the right in past cycles by promoting (unsuccessfully) various anti-tax initiatives and by possessing the longest conservative voting record. She is the anti-Chachas, who can simply let loose with hot-button rhetoric.
“Harry Reid has been a disaster for this state.”
“Read my record, not my lips.”
And so on. But when I asked her for one original idea, Angle replied, “The original idea is to deregulate at the federal level so our state can have our states’ rights back.” She then, strikingly, said that is what the Founding Fathers had in mind, thus undermining her claim of originality, but then declaring, “That’s the original idea I bring.”
Are the Republicans who vote in the primary satisfied with that stuff? If so, Chachas has little chance, and Angle, as I have said, could be the real dark horse.
• Better late than never: Tarkanian gave his usual estimable performance, glibly answering most questions with talking points. It is clear he believes Lowden is his chief rival, obliquely criticizing her (“one of my opponents”) a couple of times. He risibly argued he is “against all pork projects,” which might turn the university that made his father into Tumbleweed Tech again if others adhered to that. Pork is always in the eye of the beholder, but Tarkanian seems to be an absolutist on federal largesse — against pork, earmarks, stimulus and so on. Reality takes a holiday.
Tarkanian’s pre-debate performance cannot be ignored. His campaign agreed to participate, then rejected appearing once other candidates besides Lowden were invited and then agreed again after pressure was applied. Then, inexplicably, he showed up late, blamed me and my crew for misleading him as to the time (?!) and falsely claimed I said on the air he was scared to participate.
Folks, this is truly bizarre behavior for someone who wants to be a U.S. senator.
• She’s not there: Lowden, the putative GOP front-runner, may believe she should not lower herself to appear with the other candidates in a televised debate — or she may indeed have had an irreconcilable conflict (her campaign said she was at an undisclosed location not on her public schedule).
But the perception (or reality) that she is Marie Antoinette and her opponents can eat cake will not serve her well going forward, especially because nothing her campaign has done so far beyond a smooth bio ad should give anyone confidence she is the best contender to defeat Reid, as seemed true months ago.
(You can see the entire debate here and judge for yourself: http://tinyurl.com/yg6knhm)
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The knock on Tarkanian is: he is not photogenic, and I felt that he wasn't fluid in his answers. I agree with Mr. Ralston, that Chachas was the best in this debate.
I am a lefty that supports Reid.
I got into a friendly debate with one of my staunch Republican colleagues the other day, and asked her at one point who she wants to represent her, other than Harry Reid. "Anybody! It doesn't matter, as long as it isn't Dirty Harry."
I'm not sure I want any of these "anybodies" representing me in the Senate for six years. Your mileage may vary.
Sue Lowden was speaking with us and answering our questions at a UNLV College Republicans meeting during the show. While I'm undecided about Lowden, I liked that she spent time talking with us directly, rather than sitting in a studio talking with the other candidates.
I tuned out when Amodei starting with the wink-winking. I wouldn't want to be caught alone in the Men's Room with this guy. Angle looked like the sociopath she is and Chacas has the personality of a cashmere rock.
If you really do have a choice in this, it would have to be Tarkanian, at least he is not buying the election as Lowden is.
Also, he is not as stupid as Angle as well!
So I would imagine a Reid-Tarkanian match-up.
The problem will be with funds. The GOP is being very stupid this year in trying to run other campaigns against the conservative Independents.
This is extremely foolish, as the funds that these people will be drawing from the GOP base will deplete the funds they need for the run against Dirty Harry!
However, this explains why the GOP is considered such a dim-witted group of people here in Clark County, they can not envision the future!
It is too damn important to remove Dirty Harry, but the Republicans and just look at them, are trying to come out and run as in several Clark County races against Independents, when in reality the Independents are more viable as candidates than the Republicans.
All the Republicans are doing to do is to deplete their donor base of funds and lose against Dirty Harry who will amass more money.
As for me, if I see the Republicans as not trying to create a coalition with the Independents to allow the conservative Independents to take office, I will be voting for all Democrats just to piss off the Republicans!
So wake up GOP!
Focus on the most important challenge Clark County and Nevada have in this upcoming race and that is to revoke Reid's license to steal and to prevent a dynasty of Reids. That should be their focus and where their funds need to go!
If they were truly smart, imagine if the Independents take many offices this year. Imagine how many Republican conservatives can take office in the next election, once the door is open!
1. Ralston, you called Sue the frontrunner..she IS NOT. The last 3 polls that came out, including today showed Tarkanian in the lead, both head to head vs. Sue and against Reid. Get your facts straight dude.
2. Why are you so unfair to Tarkanian? Be fair to the guy..Sue is AFRAID to debate because she is weak and prone to contradict herself now and in the future..flipflopper momma!!
3. Tarkanian is best for Nevada and it is soooo obvious that I am disgusted that people (like Ralston) would attack Tarkanian for a time mixup and slant his writing to hurt Tarkanian when Ralston, you are a Nevadan first! You are not some unbiased newsreporter so why don't you do what is obviously best and help Tarkanian instead of try to hurt him? Jealousy?? get over it
We know that Danny Tarkanian is weak on guns.
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Where do the other candidates stand?
Tarkanian strikes me as highly unintelligent. He shows up late for the debate, he doesn't realize it was live, he talks like a deer in the headlights. None of these losers will beat Reid.
John Chachas donated big money to get Barack Obama elected. He does not seem very bright to me.
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Harry Reid and the President have killed Yucca Mountain once and for all. Funding stopped and the license revoked. Sue Lowden still wants nuclear waste at Yucca. If elected think she'll fight for a new dump on Nevada bill????
Jon,
Sue Lowden is a bimbo and is not able to debate. Please provide extra chairs next time so her consultants can sit there and make up the answers for her.
Sue can sit there with a tube of lipstick that she will use to make-up her own mind.
Tark better start explaining this problem of foreclosure on his multi million dollar property.
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Former talk show host J D Hayworth is running against McCain in Arizona. The teaparty idiots are divided. Dick Army (back by big corporate money) is backing McCain, so is Sarah Palin(who left a big deficit as Mayor of Wasila AK).
In Nevada, the talk-radio nutbars are similarly self-destructing the Republican chances.
uh, Sarah Palin was Governor and I do believe she did NOT leave her state in deficit.And in case you hadn't noticed, the whole country is in the toilet, thank you democrats.
It is not surprising that Mr. Ralston was "impressed" by Chachas, who donated $2300.00 to Barack Obama in the last presidential election. This guy, Chachas, is even to the left of the so-called RINOs in this race. His concern about "structural unemployment" merely advances the notion that Chachas thinks a US Senator can do something about this problem which, of course, would mean more federal expenditures in the areas of employment security and training and more printed dollars for the education industry. Forget the fact that the Constitution is silent on these matters as obligations of the central government. If Mr. Ralston is impressed with Mr. Chachas' Harvard Business School education and Wall Street insider background, he should check-out the educational backgrounds of the "financial geniuses" behind the TARP, Stimulus and other misuses of the federal largess like, for example, Henry Paulson the former Treasury Secretary who in cahoots with Ben Shalom Bernanke arranged for Mr. Paulson's former employer, Goldman Sachs, to receive a substantial portion of the TARP money indirectly from AIG at 100 cents on the dollar. Is this the type of guy by which Mr. Ralston is enthralled? We already have a big spending, TARP giving, Wall Street loving senator (two of them actually) from Nevada, why would we want a New Yorker to replace Reid and lose all that seniority with little, if any, change in policy?