Yucca Mountain’s death just a few steps away
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The Obama administration promised Monday it would withdraw the application to open a nuclear waste repository at Yucca Mountain.
Tuesday, Feb. 2, 2010 | 2 a.m.
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Yucca Mountain
The long and tortured effort to build a national burial ground at Yucca Mountain for highly radioactive waste will be halted once and for all, the Obama administration promised Monday, saying it would withdraw the application to build the project and starve it of funds.
And the coup de grace, maybe many years from now: plugging the tunnel into the mountain and sealing inside, forever, not nuclear waste but a giant boring machine that became an icon for the vexed project.
The government has poured $38 billion into the effort, claiming it had found the perfect place to house the Earth’s most dangerous garbage but failing in its effort to prove its case. Now that search will be renewed.
“The administration has determined that Yucca Mountain, Nevada, is not a workable option for a nuclear waste repository and will discontinue its program to construct a repository at the mountain in 2010,” White House in budget documents said.
Marty Malsch, an attorney who has fought the project for years on behalf of Nevada, said if the application withdrawal is approved, “It would mean, effectively, that’s the end of it.”
“Yucca, as Yucca, is dead.”
Energy Secretary Steven Chu emphasized that he will seek the withdrawal “with prejudice” — a legal definition that prohibits the project from being resubmitted later, ending speculation that the project could be revived when a more dump-friendly administration inhabits the White House.
Nevadans who have opposed Yucca Mountain repository since Congress singled it out more than 20 years ago think the endgame is set.
“This is the day we put the Champagne on ice — we’ll pop the cork after the motion is heard and decided,” said Richard Bryan, former Democratic governor and senator who led efforts to stop the dump.
“It’s a great day for the state and a great testament to the state hanging tough and staying the course.”
Former Republican Gov. Kenny Guinn said, “It has been a long time coming.”
But before the Champagne begins to flow, several steps must be taken.
• First, the Energy Department must, within 30 days, submit to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission’s three-judge panel its request to withdraw the application with prejudice.
The panel is reviewing the application to license the waste dump, a painstaking process that began in 2008 and could take at least four years to complete. Citing Obama’s intent pull the plug, the Energy Department asked the panel Monday for a stay in those hearings, “to avoid the unnecessary expenditure of resources,” according to the legal papers.
In a sign of the possible debate, White Pine County indicated in a legal filing it will oppose the motion for the stay. Several other Nevada counties remain neutral or are supportive, according to legal documents.
• Next, the three-judge panel will consider the withdrawal application — a key document that would outline the terms of withdrawal and whether the site could be reconsidered in the future.
The nuclear industry has been the primary champions of the dump, and the Nuclear Energy Institute, the industry’s main lobby, would not say if it plans to challenge the withdrawal application. A spokesman said the withdrawal language will be “of paramount importance,” hinting at the industry’s desire to keep a dump at Yucca Mountain on the back burner.
“The industry does not support the termination of this program, but believes that, if it is going to happen, it should occur in an orderly manner to permit the licensing process to be restarted if ever warranted,” said Marvin Fertel, the institute’s CEO.
• Finally, the panel would issue a ruling that could be appealed, and any decision would be reviewed by the full Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
The commission is made up of political appointees — three Democrats, two Republicans — and is headed by Gregory Jaczko, who specialized in nuclear energy issues on the staff of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid before being tapped for the job.
Yet even with these final, potentially arduous, steps still to come, those who have fought the dump are confident that if the Obama administration continues on the course it has outlined, a Yucca repository will never exist.
By withdrawing the application, the administration would take the legal action necessary to halt the project — a move with even more teeth than if the energy secretary were to declare the site unsuitable, which had always been an option.
Malsch said that if the energy secretary were to declare the site unsuitable but then fail to pull the license, “you always would have wondered. This makes it clear that changing the mind is out of the question.”
A Yucca dump’s obituary has been written before, but Monday’s developments provided the strongest indications yet that the project is ending.
The Obama administration’s decision was not a complete surprise. As a presidential candidate in 2008, Barack Obama’s campaign told the Las Vegas Sun he would withdraw the application if elected.
Yet the administration did not do so after taking office last year, even as Obama severely cut the Yucca Mountain budget. The federal government appeared hesitant to pull the plug because it faces mounting legal liability for failing to take the waste off nuclear power companies’ hands, as required by law. Already several utilities have successfully sued the government for failing to open a Yucca repository in 1998 as promised.
But over the past several days, Obama sought to assure the nuclear industry he is on its side even as he prepared to deliver a devastating blow to its long-promised dump.
In his State of the Union address last week, Obama welcomed “a new generation of safe, clean nuclear power plants in this country.” And Friday the administration announced the formation of a new commission headed by Lee Hamilton and Brent Scowcroft that will come up with Plan B — alternatives to a dump at Yucca Mountain. Also, Obama’s new budget triples to $54 billion the federal loan guarantees available for financing new nuclear power plants.
With so many sweeteners, the industry’s opposition to a Yucca dump’s demise may be muted.
Reid, who has worked closely with Obama and Chu on Yucca, on Monday thanked Obama “for keeping his word to Nevadans.”
Although the 2011 budget would eliminate the project, it provides at least $55 million for a newly merged office to close the site. Yucca’s staff has been slashed from 1,400 last year to 625 today, with just 127 working in Las Vegas.
The tunnel into the repository has long been closed, with a chain-link fence across the openings.
Bruce Breslow, executive director of the Nevada Agency for Nuclear Projects, which has fought the dump, said the site needs to be remediated and returned to its original condition, as required by law.
The buildings need to be removed, the boring holes that have made Swiss cheese of the mountain top need to be patched up and the entrance tunnels need to be filled “with two giant corks, or however they’re going to do it,” Breslow said.
Eventually, the state also would need to untangle its many lawsuits against the federal government.
Yet while a Yucca dump may be done, Nevada may not be safe from the nation’s nuclear waste.
The new commission promises it will not consider Yucca Mountain as it seeks alternatives, but the rest of Nevada’s desert could be open ground for waste storage or a waste reprocessing facility.
Some members of the Republican political establishment in Nevada have long envisioned a nuclear waste facility in the desert, and several candidates hoping to unseat Reid in the fall election, including Sue Lowden and Danny Tarkanian, want to explore waste reprocessing ideas.
Yet Yucca Mountain as the end destination for the waste would be no more. Even though Yucca Mountain remains in law as the chosen site for the nation’s nuclear waste, without a project application the law is moot, legal experts said.
Democratic Rep. Shelley Berkley said that if the president follows through and pulls the application, it will be “all but impossible for this threat to one day return from the grave.”
Stephanie Tavares reported from Las Vegas.
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38 billion dollars wasted! I wonder how many of those greenbacks were stuffed into Harry Reid and Gibbons back pockets? And all we the people are left with is a hole in the earth in the desert. It's time like these were we need to wake up as one people and GET RID OF THE CURRENT ELECTED IDIOTS OF THIS STATE!!
If this isn't a campaign ploy to get Reid re-elceted, I don't know what is. Politics as usual from Washington - you helped me, I'll help you, whether its good or not. I can't wait to see the Reid campaign ads -"Look at what I did, closed Yucca". Nothing but campaign B.S. in an election year. I'm not saying that Yucca was a good idea or not, only the timing of the closing is really interesting. If Reid's re-election was not in trouble, would this have happened????
All this was so expected. Politics as usual. Look for more 'bribes' all the way to November.
This is yet another example of a political decision with no basis in science whatsoever. Nobody seems to talk about the financial opportunity of putting what is practically an inert substance deep in the ground in an area where we have already exploded 1000s of nuclear devices. What a loss of revenue! Money from Yucca would balance the state budget. What will Nye County do? They will be losing significant income. What a shortsighted mistake!
Decades ago, when this project was conceived and legislated, Nevada was a totally politically powerless, dessicated hardscrabble backwater with nil population, and "out-of-sight-out-of-mind" seemed like a great idea for "getting rid" of the problem.
No longer.
Unfortunlately it is not just 38 billion. How about the enormus amount of money the state has spent fighing this. Boy could that money be used now.
It also looks like Obama is going to single handedly save the Reid election. Something he has nto been able to do date with anyother post.
Reid hands out bribes to Nelson so Obama has to return th favor. Send Reid back home to Washington where he belongs and do not let he come back here to the state he forgot.
die yucca die...
harry reid is the man...
thank you for preventing our children from glowing in the dark...
and look at the stupid patheic lying republican clowns...
willing to sell our safety for a few dollars...
dollars dollars dollars...
that is all the stupid pathetic lying republicans care about...
they are willing to have our children glow in the dark for a few dollar bills...
sad...
pathetic...
vegas loves harry reid!!!
Birdie...we know your goal...to get us all going...I, for one, love your writing style...very creative...unfortunately, it is without any basis in reality...the following quote is very common and attributed to many, including one of my heroes, the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan...I am sure you are familiar with it..."one is entitled to his own opinion, but one is not entitled to his own facts"...suggestion: spend just a few of your creative moments discovering facts...then please come back and keep posting...add a little substance to your style...enjoy your Tuesday...
$38 Billion??? What a well thought out project! Do you know how many people that money could have fed and housed? Where's the accountability?
So much for science determining appropriate courses of action for the Obama administration (just another broken promise by him).
This was purely political. Even if you wanted to explore other alternatives via the 'blue ribbon' panel, there was NO reason to pull the license application (which would have been completed in two years) as it just didn't cost that much money to continue the process (in comparison, the lawsuites that will reign down from the utility companies for violating the nuclear waste policy act will far out weigh the costs of continuing the license)
Oh, BTW, those suites will be payed by YOUR tax dollars, not the funds set aside for building Yucca Mountain.
Way to go Harry. You let politics once again influence sound science, just to try to get reelected.
I know we will be making a new batch of aBadReid.com bumper stickers, will probably distribute them freely to the Yucca Mountain workers on their last day on the job!
Bad Reid
Bad Senator
http://aBadReid.com
Why would they want to bury the boring machine? Why not use it for some other civil engineering project?
Anyone else get the feeling that this country is f*cked? One president comes along and shuts down all the projects of the guy before him (Yucca, several NASA programs, etc., changes to the F-35 project) Of course, the guy before him shut down a bunch of his predecessor's programs. We just can't get anything straight and we are throwing away hundreds of billions of dollars while running a fifteen hundred billion dollar deficit. We're screwed.
The State is in dire need of money and here we have a nuclear storage facility about to be mothballed. Turn the lights back on, hire some staff, set the fees & start charging for storage
Yucca Mountain could bring in enough to fund our government & schools - why aren't we using it.
Seems like an apropros place for a new state capitol and legislative think tank.
Realitychick says nuclear waste is "practically an inert substance." I'm crying I'm laughing so hard!!! I seriously can't stop!!! I love these comment pages!!
Getting rid of Yucca is going to save our economy, save lives, and is an amazing accomplishment for the people of Las Vegas. Thanks Senator Reid!!!
dhvincent1 > Your deductive reasoning will be worthy of a Darwin award one day.
I would like to congratulate President Obama in his decision to triple the size of the Energy Department's loan guarantee program to $54 billion, which could support the construction of seven to 10 new reactors.
Yucca is not dead, just lying dormant until Harry leaves office...
Environprotector..what evidence do you have that Reid has ever received even one thin dime from the project? Serious accusations need serious proof...of course, a supporter of the dump with the name environprotector can't be taken seriously anyhow.
briant
you are 2 for 2; go ahead, try for the hat trick!
While some of you are dismayed by the money spent already on the project, wait until you see how much has to be paid back to the nuclear folks. Does anyone rember any talk about changing the law? The Nuclear Waste Policy Act says the Feds gotta put the glowing embers someplace. That hasn't changed and I don't hear any chatter about making the change.
Notacon beat me to it
notacon :
What evidence do YOU have that he hasn't?
Good riddance to the badly mismanaged '00's.
Those thinking about long-term recovery, know the environment will be a big winner in the conversion to biofuels & biopower -- saw a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth
Good grief! We don't burn & bury our garbage out in the backyard any more, why the heck would we bury this crap?
http://www.unr.edu/nevadanews/templates/...
Environprotector > You have CLEARLY taken payments from the nuclear industry to advocate for them.
goingbust
Why would they want to bury the boring machine? Why not use it for some other civil engineering project?
Why not? It's not their money, the taxpayers can just bend over a little more and buy a new one for the next fiasco...
With the upcoming rail projects someday, you would think they would want to bore through a few more mountains around Las Vegas. Those are bore-machine ready projects! :)
environprotector, if you will agree that Reid has been one of the politicians leading the effort against Yucca, then I think that its safe to say that he probably isn't getting campaign contributions from the entities doing the construction there. So, do you think that he gets envelopes with cash handed to him periodically? Exactly, by what means is he getting the supposed payoffs and from whom?
Maybe you should just stick to other outrageous claims like oh, maybe you invented the question mark!
briant...you seem like a reasonable person...and since you used the words 'deductive reasoning' while laughing so hard you cry, perhaps you can practice your deduction on this fact...MOST nuclear waste is indeed "practically inert" as suggested by another writer...how else would you describe a substance such as Uranium with a half-life of millions of years that can be safely handled without any protection?...deduce away, dear briant...ahhh one more thing - I see you mentioned a Darwin award...please assure me that you remain elible, as you have yet to procreate and have no intention to do so...
notacon : I never have said ANYTHING about the manner of payouts to our politicians who are corrupt, and I mean to say that ALL politicians are lying criminal scum. You must be very young and naive to believe anything different . All politicians get their money from special interests for corporations so that when they get elected they get the first attentions/contracts. Thats criminal. Politicians are lying criminal scum. So are lawyers, most medical and dental surgeons and everyone in that profession who fleece us through the insurance companies, Grow up and get with it notacon...
Doesn't Obama see the contradiction between calling for more nukes in his SOTU and closing Yucca Mountain? Where will we store spent fuel? On the White House Lawn? On the south side of Chicago in his old neighborhood? (Tony Rezko might object.)
Purgatory > yeah...what was I thinking...deducting that uranium poses a threat to the human body is ridiculous.
Handling it? What does that matter? We're not sending the Clark County populace through Yucca Mountain to rub their hands all over uranium waste. Ever heard of ground water, Purgatory brain trust?
Ever heard of proof reading?
Nice try Harry. Too little, too late.
Nice try dhvincent1. When it's something you support, you trust the government and say your position is based in science. When it is something you don't support, you start throwing tea parties.
I could say that's what conservatives "do" but that would be an attempt to steer this into purely political matter which clearly it isn't.
I will say that's what mindless dupes "do" to conveniently support their agenda regardless of political party.
You have unwittingly played your hand in showing deference to money (lost jobs, lost tax revenues, less federal money) instead of public health.
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/sep/25/...
Still trust the government?
This is still nowhere in the national news. Why wont the national news cover this?
This is still nowhere in the national news. Why wont the national news cover this?
environprotector: Politicians, lawyers, medical and dental durgeons..all scum to you. Lots of anger and bitterness, I suggest lithium. Don't worry, its not radioactive!
hahaha this comment section is hilarious. We real Las Vegans and Nevadans have been fighting against Yucca for YEARS!!! Now all you on here who support this are using only one reason, for the money. That just shows how greedy you guys really are. You would rather put the publics safety at risk for a few bucks then to ensure the publics safety by just not having Yucca Mountain at all. Now for all the PRO Yucca people, here is a fact that you cant disregard.... Yucca is built directly on top of a very active fault line. See the problem is that Bush's "faith based science" never took that into consideration. One large earthquake and one of the largest aquifers would be contaminated. You guys are just so smart huh??? LOL!!! The funniest thing of all was before any of this economic mess hit most of all of you were completly aginst Yucca but now because of your PURE HATRED of Obama and Reid your totaly for Yucca. Sounds like most of you are just hating to hate cause your blinded by hate, HATERS!!!
Also seems like a few people have just started accounts just to comment on this topic... can anyone say MISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN??? hahaha
It is very disappointing that Harry Reid & Obama have conspired to eliminate Yucca Mountain as the single nations repository for spent nuclear plant fuel. I have written to these politicians (and more) but the responses I get are completely insensitive to the citizens of Nevada due to the enormous job losses eliminating this project, somewhere in the neighborhood of 25,000 jobs when you include all ancillary support people (consultants, sub consultants, local route townships, trades personnel, engineers, scientists, restaurants, etc). And safety? This nuclear plant fuel has been sitting in pools at these nuclear plants for decades, how many accidents or contaminations have we seen? None! And the largest benefits of Nuclear plants is . . . zero emissions, something that immediately off-sets global warming! The jobs that Yucca d brings to Nevada would be thousand of highly skilled well paid workers which spend their money to help diversify Nevada's economy! I personally know engineers that lost their jobs (and houses) due to the Yucca shutdown. And if Yucca would materialize it would centrally store all this waste in probably the best secured area in the nation, the Nevada test site, you can see anyone approaching for 50 miles! Nevada has produced 45 tons of uranium since the 1950's so why not bring back what has been mined here? With Nevada facing 30% across-the-board budget shortfalls, this project would be a blessing! I voted for Reid & Obama and feel strongly with most of their vision, but they are completely wrong on this one!
FRANCE HAS A NUCLEAR WASTE SOLUTION
The solution to not having any nuclear waste (spent fuel) to store has been alive and well in France for 36 years in the form of a BREEDER Nuclear Reactor. This type of reactor creates little nuclear waste (spent fuel) because, as the name "Breeder" implies, what little waste they do create is re-processed back into reusable fuel. We do not use Breeder Reactors in the United States. If we did, we would have no need for storage sites like YUCCA Mountain, because we would have no nuclear waste to store.
The reason we don't use Breeder Nuclear Reactors in the U.S. is because, in 1977, President Jimmy Carter banned the re-processing of nuclear waste, and specifically - Plutonium 239 - because it could be used to make Atomic Bombs.
Carter wanted to reduce nuclear proliferation around the world, and keep weapons-grade Plutonium 239 from winding up in the hands of our enemies. I think this is a moot point today. However, it seems that this decision might have been an over-reaction to a questionable problem. The ban certainly was instrumental in halting further nuclear development in the U.S.
The benefit of Breeder Nuclear Reactors: After the shock of oil price-escalation in 1974, France deemed the excessive cost of oil, and its availability, to be a National Security Issue. Thus, because France had a lot of engineering expertise, but lacked national energy resources, France decided to begin a massive investment in Breeder Nuclear Reactors to provide electrical power for their nation, and become energy independent.
Today, generally 75% of France's electrical power is generated from Breeder Nuclear Reactors. Another 15% is generated by Hydroelectric plants. France also has very low electricity use-rates, and sells excess power from their 59 nuclear power plants to the rest of Europe - which provides France with revenues of over $3 Billion Euros per year. The cost of building Breeder Nuclear Reactors in France, since 1974, is estimated at $400 billion - but the savings are incredible. An added environmental benefit of nuclear power is that it produces extremely low levels of CO2 emissions, per capita, from the generation of electricity - because over 90% of France's electricity comes from either nuclear or hydroelectric plants.
In writing this commentary, my hope is that someone - perhaps, President Obama - will look deeper into this Breeder Nuclear Reactor technology for use in the United States, so we can also become an energy independent nation.
Nuclear Power and Breeder Reactors - "myth and promise":
http://www.argee.net/DefenseWatch/Nuclea...
Using Nuclear Reactors to Fight Climate Change:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...
World Nuclear Association - Nuclear power in France:
http://www.world-nuclear.org/infomap.asp...
finaly an actual good comment, thank you Socratic! that would be a very good idea from what i initially read. to bad our country(politicians) really lacks any kind of inovative thinking. but like i said in my last comment it seems that the same couple people keep creating different user profiles and posting the same B.S. in support of Yucca(that would be sgnrelli, realitychick just to name a couple). Keep on spewing your propaganda! cause like i said before, REAL NEVADANS dont want Yucca in their backyard.
Yucca mountain may be the only way we can secure federal funds.
"REAL NEVADANS don't want Yucca in their backyard." If that isn't the largest load of crap that I heard today.
Yucca is not dead, Obama is just keeping it dormant until Harry leaves office in November...
Barry is trying to help Harry in his bid for re-election, but REAL NEVADANS are too smart for that ploy...
birdiedeaming is from California and lives their. He doesn't know what Nevadans want. Birdie claims children will glow in the dark and he has no proof nor will he ever. A libatard that knows what's best for Nevada from California, as@@ole.
So folks if Yucca closes, who is gonna monitor the radiactivte material from the above ground tests? Right you guys have only been living here the last 10 years and you guys are rocket scientest. The above ground test still need to monitored from the 40's and 50's and 60's. Eat Sh#t you dumb ass#es and enviro wacks. Do us a favor and move back to where you came from.
So you Nevadans are pleased to have Yucca shuttered.
You were pleased to have 38 BILLION dollars pour into your state.
...and presumably you will be pleased when you dupe a couple BILLION more out of the federal government to "re-mediate" the site.
Yes dupe.
That's your mind set in Nevada. That's what you do to the rest of us in Nevada, ...on an ongoing basis.
Even Obama is tired of the country blowing a bunch of cash in this state.
Own up to the fact that it was YOU that killed this project. It should be YOU that buries it!
We're tired of frittering our money away in your god-forsaken state.
Hey IncognitoRebel, I have just signed up on this site because I just recently moved back to Las Vegas. By your statement I guess I have no right to any input. I'm sure that some of my posts on this site may make you mad and others you might agree with. But either way I will post my thoughts.
And as to this Giant hole in the ground. Strip it of all equipment and materials that can be used other places. Seal it up and look into other uses for it.
Make a bank vault out of the place. All the people in Las Vegas can put their money into!
You who voted for this turkey, Obama, are now seeing that votes count and in this case the disaster that follows when a Socialist community organizer with half a brain is elected. He is leaving a disaster in his wake and I hope we can survive him and end this madness with him in 2012! I think we may find out he is doing this on purpose, he dont seem to like the USA anyway, at least that is what he tells the world.
I agree Burrito,, well said... Everyone knows whats best but dont think it all the way through... Anyways why waste 38 billion and do nothing with what it was intended... No wonder this country is in a loop....LMAO....
Can we fill it with those guys handing out porn on the strip?
I wonder where the waste will go?
Joelipp:
We have to recycle nuclear waste like they do
in Europe. No need to dump it.
Harry is right to close Yucca.
Mascaro has blown the facts again!!! About $9 Billion has been spent. The balance of the $38 Billion is being stolen by the Obama administration to balance other government budgets and to fund the new "Blue Ribbon Panel" farse...
Further, to "The Socratic Inkwell": The French used OUR designs for reprocessing!!! STOP GIVING THE FRENCH CREDIT FOR IT!!!! The ONLY reason we don't reprocess spent nuclear fuel now in the US is because of that IDIOT JIMMY CARTER that you liberal morons love so much!!!!!!!!
I don't live in Nevada and I honestly don't give two flying fraks about Harry Reid's agenda or your wasteland of a state. I was directed-to this page by an AOL/Netscape news article about Oblamba increasing funding-for nuclear plants. 'Socratic' may-be onto something, but it's not enough. Try looking-up 'Sodium Reactor Experiment', granted the result was a disaster because the seal-coolant they were using caused a mess, but the fuel DOES NOT get consumed during the reaction. These days we have better seals, improved bearings and better coolants for the seals that could-be used. After the disaster that occured because of stupidity they stopped development on the idea, but the idea of using Sodium is still quite valid.
Some say 38mill wasted, some benefited. If I personally do not agree with a budget item, is it waste, I think not. Yes recycle would be great if can do so energy efficiently, if not store in one location as tomorrow when we understand matter and radiation more fully this deposit will be the biggest bank on earth. This will return 100 fold your investment. Better to store in remote location than in a city or let some overseas country have access. All this matter came from the ground, look at CFC debacle; Mt St Helens spewed out more CFC's in eight days than man made in 70 years. So asses your ego's and hands out of pockets and stop playing.