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Published Monday, Feb. 1, 2010 | 10:38 a.m.
Updated Monday, Feb. 1, 2010 | 11:35 a.m.
Nathan Hardy
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The driver of a pickup truck allegedly involved in a fatal crash Friday night that left a woman and her teenage son dead told police he didn’t see a stoplight and was in a hurry to get home, according to an arrest report released today.
Nathan Hardy, 20, was booked on two counts of felony reckless driving resulting in death in connection with the 8:42 p.m. Friday crash that happened at the intersection of Lamb and Las Vegas boulevards.
When interviewed at University Medical Center after the crash, Hardy told the investigating officer he was returning home from a trip to St. George, Utah, and was “just in a hurry to get home.” He couldn’t recall specifics about the crash, the report indicates, and said he didn’t see the traffic light.
He also told police he hadn’t consumed any alcohol or taken any drugs, prescription or otherwise. He said he wasn’t fatigued and that shortly before the crash he had eaten a meal at Jack in the Box.
Police said evidence and witness statements indicate that a 2006 Toyota Corolla driven by 45-year-old Maria DelCarmen Lewis, of Las Vegas, was southbound on Las Vegas Boulevard and entered the intersection on a green light. A 1992 Dodge Dakota pickup truck driven by Hardy was southbound on Lamb when it entered the intersection on a red light, striking the passenger's side where Lewis’ 17-year-old son, Daniel Santos, was sitting.
Lewis was pronounced dead at the scene; Santos died a short time later at University Medical Center. The Clark County Coroner’s office said today that Lewis died of a broken neck as a result of the collision.
Santos was taken to UMC, where he died of multiple traumatic injuries he suffered in the crash, the coroner’s office said. The coroner's office officially ruled both deaths as accidental.
Several witnesses told police the Dodge was weaving in and out of traffic and ran several red lights as it traveled southbound from Craig Road as it approached Lamb.
One witness, a Clark County firefighter who was responding to another accident in the area, told police he saw the Dodge traveling 50 to 60 mph and almost strike several pedestrians in the area of Craig and Lamb.
Other witnesses described the Dodge’s speed as between 60 mph to 80 mph, weaving in and out of traffic, and running red lights at Craig and Lamb, Alexander and Lamb, and the light at Lamb and Las Vegas Boulevard.
Hardy was treated at UMC for minor injuries and booked into the Clark County Detention Center, where he is being held without bail. He is scheduled to appear before a judge Wednesday morning.
Accidental? They should be ruled as homicide.
So senseless. In a community full of senseless killings this is among the worst of the worst in my 15 years as a Las Vegas resident.
I hope he grows old in prison.
Accidental my behind. This kid ran through SEVERAL red lights indicating he was driving recklessly and this was an accident?!? Give me a break. This guy needs to rot in jail. This was deliberate, careless, and senseless. Two innocent lives are lost and for NO reason other than stupidity. Homicide. Plain and simple.
I hope he does too, but too often what's going to happen is he'll be sentenced to 2 years in prison, 5 years probation, community service, and other "slap on the wrist" punishments. Disheartening. Many prayers to the grieving family.
In Great Britain, and I'm sure many other parts of the world, the term "traffic collision" is used rather than "traffic accident". Perhaps we should consider the same.
The word "accident" implies that no one was at fault, clearly that is not the case in this incident or in many other "traffic accidents".
INCREASE THE DRIVING AGE TO 21 NOW!!!!
This is exactly why I slow down and sometimes even pause at intersections. I don't ride anymore, but intersections taught me to be super cautious...as that is where many motorcycles get nailed. This applies to cars as well. That is why I dislike drivers who go 50 mph all the way to the traffic signal and then crunch on the brakes. It appears that they are going to blast thru the light. Better safe than sorry, I say. So please do not honk your horn at drivers being cautious at intersections. Recent Vegas history shows that cautiousness is needed.
Now here is a prime example of a piece of trash. It would be great if he would get life in prison for this.
It's very sad to think the only reason two peoples' lives were cut short ONLY because a guy was in a hurry to get home.
What is sadder is... That's the excuse for MANY drivers on the road. Every intersection you see the one car who is totally capable of stopping at the yellow light, but guns it into the intersection after the light has turned red. They have this mentality of "The opposing traffic is stopped and they won't go until they see me get across."
Second problem.... Everyone, and I mean everyone... when they see the light turn green, they GUN it, without so much as a glance to see if the opposing traffic has stopped completely.
I am in no way condoning the actions of Nathan Hardy, nor am I blaming Mrs. Lewis for "gunning it" when the light turned green... But this happens everyday people... LUCK is the only reason why there aren't more accidents like this.
Please, everyone... Look before you go when the light turns green. And, before you get in the car, calm down. Weaving in and out of traffic DOESN'T get you there faster.... running 1 red light doesn't get you there faster... and YOU aren't the only one on the road.
Let this be a lesson. People need to be more cautious on the road. We have ALL be guilty of running red lights, we have ALL weaved in an out of traffic, and we have ALL been in a hurry... we all need to realize that if you are late for something, then it's because you LEFT late, not beacuse it takes you a long time on the road.
Don't make up for "lost time" by driving recklessly.
What a tradegy for the family of the deceased. This was a senseless act of stupidty. From what the witnesses say, he was running red lights and driving eratically before he ran this red light which shows his lack of concern for others on the road. It will be interesting to see what kind of sentence this man receives.
I can think of no redeeming virtue in this account of this reckless motorist's actions.
Throw the book at him.
I am sure he has all kinds of problems, but that doesn't mitigate his actions. Hold him responsible.
The Nevada Judicial system will do nothing to this guy. My cousin killed a tourist with an alcohol level of .18. He was in prison for four years. When he got out he was re- arrested with a DUI, no punishment.
This myth that people are punished is a fairy tale, my friends.
When I asked for help for funeral expenses when my brother was killed by a hit and run, they turned me down. But the employee was stealing at the time. Read about it here http://www.lasvegasnow.com/global/story....
I hope the next "accident" he has is being rear-ended in the county jail.
There are no excuses for this and he should pay a high price for his recklessness.
But to all you who want to throw the book at him and see him rot in jail for the rest of his life, ask yourself about your own driving behavior, especially when you were that age. Again no excuses, but without a doubt everyone who is a driver had made very careless and even reckless driving decisions, but it's just the grace of God that has kept you from hurting or killing anyone.
Unfortunately, it seems that people have taken the attitude that it's all about me, me, me. You know the type. Laws don't apply to them. They do whatever the hell they want, whenever they want, no matter who it may hurt. I believe in karma; he'll get his sooner or later.
We don't have enough police presence to make a dent in reckless and impaired driving. Heaven forbid that we should have enforcement cameras or ban text messaging. It might impinge on some idiot's right to kill and maim. My heart goes out to the victims' families.
My prediction: He'll be back on the streets in 4 years.
I witnessed a drunk driver kill 4 people and he only got 4 years.
I wonder if going to jail made him late getting home?
Perhaps a clever attorney (certainly not Glenn Lerner) will mount a novel defense based on the fool's ingestion of fast food from Gag In The Bag.
What is stupid is that this same driver in May 2009, hit me when he was driving in the turn lanes for miles down the road on Rainbow.
He got cited for no insurance and I was taken to the hospital and for driving a longer distance than legal in the turn lanes.
Since he had no insurance and the insurance adjuster failed to do their jobs correctly by realizing that the person was in the suicide lane and in the wrong lane period, I got screwed over by my own insurance company via the INSURANCE ADJUSTERS WHO ONLY DO WHAT SAVES A DOLLAR FOR THE COMPANY!
I have yet to meet any INSURANCE ADJUSTER who does right by the people.
That is why we have so many accident attorneys here in Las Vegas and every city in the US. If we had good and caring INSURANCE ADJUSTERS who did what was right for the people we would not need to hire accident attorneys.
If the police officer had done his job with this guy who hit me last May, then this guy should of had his license revoked for the lack of insurance and driving in the turn lane.
But I got screwed over by this entire deal. IN fact, I had to have a back operation because when he t-boned me as I was turning left out of the lane into a strip mall, he tried to pass me by driving into oncoming traffic and that is when he t-boned me and my back of which had been previously operated on and is now built with screws/brackets, etc., got shifted violently to the right and my spine was shifted off the previous fusion.
So thanks to the INSURANCE ADJUSTERS I had my claim denied, they paid to fix his truck, this is my insurance company and they fixed my car, but they refused to pay for my injuries and I had to have my health care pay for them.
But if anyone who has ever dealt with an INSURANCE ADJUSTER knows this is what happens, you get the shaft most often as they do whatever they can for the company line. IN addition, I had paid my premiums for more than 15 years without any claims.
Did you know that the GOP is planning on running an INSURANCE ADJUSTER AS A CLARK COUNTY COMMISSIONER? That is going to be great, we can expect nothing but REPUBLICAN ANTICS from chasing skirts to corruption from this person, his career speaks well of his desire to help the people!
I say no way, will I ever support an INSURANCE ADJUSTER who I know they do not favor people as an elected GOP County Commissioner!
This is normal driving behavior for the residents of Las Vegas. Nobody respects the speed limits. Getting to the red light first is an important objective. Drive up to Cram Middle School at the beginning and end of the school day and you will see some of the biggest idiots ever. They don't even slow down in school zones when the lights are flashing. The you have the people who think if they ride your bumper it will make you speed up....I like to make those people wet themselves. Ride my bumper and I will do 10mph..and see how quick you get to your destination.
^ That was YOU?!!!!
We need more Batmobiles out there.
prolly was sandy...it is my goal that if you want to ride my bumper I will go out of my way to urinate you off
Time for a lynch mob to demand the justice the cops can provide on the road.
All you aggressive drivers - you are on notice.
Especially the jerks in the trucks with the grade school education who think they are the center of the universe.
Go back to your trailer park in Oklahoma where you can do all the meth and sloppy driving you want.
Where is Dexter when you need himb?
So,was he drunk or not?
My condolences to the family.
Several years ago while driving through an intersection going 45mph, I T-boned a car which ran the light. That goes to tell you how much that teenager was paying attention to the road. Fortunately, no one got hurt seriously, but had I entered that intersection half a second sooner, he would have smacked into me, on the driver's side where my baby was also sitting in the rear. Since then, I'm usually not the first to take off on green light and always make sure to look both ways for red light runners.
Whatever time he gets, it won't be enough.
Vehicular HOMICIDE PERIOD!!
Take away his driving priveleges FOREVER, once he gets out of prison. Hopefully, he'll be a senior citizen by then.
Another douchebag on the road killing innocent people. Aggressive, tailgating idiots should have their licenses revoked. It's only gotten worse. Typically the tailgaters are these teen girls with the driveer seat puched so far forward they are wedged against the wheel like race car drivers. There's nothing worse than tailgaters....until this guy came along.
This idiot needs to go to jail. Sooner or later he was going to kill somebody.
Its actually written into the Nevada States updated study guide for the test that a person should perform a "30 count" before proceeding through a green traffic signal because of incidents just like this,...When I was driving a cab a couple years ago I was thinking about that at the intersection of Flamingo and Paradise headed east and that one time,... and I almost never do, complyed with my instincts and lo and behold, a woman blew a red left turn arrow headed north on Paradise to head west on Flamingo, and after glancing off another vehicle already in the intersection, she ended up in the lawn of Terribles Casino over near the marque...pretty crazy...
It's simple. Speed KILLS.
Why do people have to die to remind us of that simple fact?
I, Me, My.
I am more important than you.
It's ME that should be first.
MY time is more important than yours.
And I'm Dyin' to prove it.
Speed doesn't kill, variances in speed kill. The highways in Germany are among the safest in the world, and their speed limits are much higher than ours. The difference is that the penalties there are much more severe, and the driver education required to get a license is much more rigorous. Getting a drivers license in Germany is as difficult as getting a pilot's license here, yet we have people being licensed here that aren't even smart enough to pull their pants up or wear a baseball cap correctly. I wouldn't trust these people to operate chewing gum.
This is so sad. :(
Was he racing home to play his video games? Pathetic.
I don't know about other sides of town, but for the past week, cops have been stopping drivers like crazy down nea UNLV area. I've never seen so many traffic stops on Tropicana since I have moved here. It's nice to see cops are stepping up and enforcing the laws. It makes me feel a bit more safer when I am driving my daughter to daycare now.
But still, wait at least a few seconds before going on a green light. You just never know...
"It's simple. Speed KILLS."
Everyone knows that and doesn't care. It's a cost of doing business. 95% of drivers operate their vehicles reasonably. The other 5% keep things interesting.
38,000 traffic-related deaths in 2008, but nobody's going to start any wars about it. Sorry.
Also, if you wait 4 seconds to start after a light turns green, you avoid a vast majority of intersection accidents. You may get shot, but that's covered in another class.
I am not in no way condoning what happened here. But I used to commute down Lamb southbound from 215 to past Stewart when the I-15 was jacked up. The spped limit is 45 the whole way. Numurous times (every day) I encountered people driving as slow as 30. Mainly Mexicans who either have no insurance, licsenses or even citizenship so they are fearful of law enforcment pulling them over. It cause many people to lose their cool and take unnessasry risks to pass these people. So before you hang this guy out to dry, remember when you are mad at the guy in front of you and you speed up this could be you....I am sure he didnt get up in the morning and say "Hey I am gonna see how many lights I can run til I hit somebody!.
"The highways in Germany are among the safest in the world, and their speed limits are much higher than ours."
Germany's trains also run on time. What's your point? They're staunch conformists. Everything is done in a very deliberate and orderly way.
Still, almost 700 people were killed on the autobhan in 2005. Force equals mass times acceleration. The human body traveling at 100 mph may as well be tissue paper.
Amazing how tuffy was able to blame this white guy crime on Mexicans. Even when the white guy is the only guy driving the car.
It's too bad that the Toyota he t-boned wasn't a semi. We would not have to be speculating about the guy's future.
I am one of the family members grieving from this tragedy! Danny had his whole life ahead of him and it's been cut short because this guy was "in a hurry to get home". Maria, was an amazing woman! She was strick with her kids but she was just doing what a mother does, love her kids and want what's best for them. Whatever it was, it wasnt as important enough for him to have been going the speed he was going!
I've read all of the comments posted and I want to thank everyone for their condolences.
First and foremost, I was to point out that this was not a race thing. It's about responsibility!
As for the person who mentioned that this was the same guy who hit them back in May 2009, please contact me. I would like to speak to you. And you may feel like you don't want to discuss this, but it would help us understand. It's unbelievable that this kid was still driving around with a license!
I hope he gets what he deserves! But in the end, it won't bring them back!
"Its actually written into the Nevada States updated study guide for the test that a person should perform a "30 count" before proceeding through a green traffic signal because of incidents just like this"
Wait for than 3 seconds at a green light and surely some idiot will lay on his horn.
Take one look at this guy, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out hes stoned! or on some kind of downer....oxcy's?
This is the very reason I quit working at Nellis AFB. I used to commute in that area for several years from Henderson, and this is almost a given in that area. Henderson isn't perfect either, but its a MAJOR issue around Craig, Lamb, Nellis, and Las Vegas Blvd. Metro needs to step up patrols, start ticketing and arresting these idiots who think they can do whatever the hell they want and endanger the public. I guarantee you if you drive like that around Green Valley or Summerlin, you will be stopped and you will go to jail Why is North Las Vegas any different?
He will probably get probation and some service work to be performed for this... If he has a record of crappy driving then why does he have a license.. Also The autobahn is actually safe as to highways in the U.S... The speed limit is A lot lower here in comparison to the autobahn...And of course the human body is nothing at that speed,, as its nothing at 50 to 60 mph...Big difference to 200 mph and how many cars on that highway in a days time,, and how many on highways here... you cant make a comparison to it... Speed doesnt kill,, it the mass weight of metal being projected into a object that causes destruction by reckless driving....It bad that this jerk was on the road in a hurry to get home just to kill innocent people for all any one knows were on there way home also....My condlacenses to the family...
The face of a MURDERER.
Make a example of this guy...this was no mistake or accident..This is a typical Vegas driver and now lets make this killer a poster child ASAP
Strykertyme,
Most people call them car wrecks.
Newspapers here in America, or at least this one here in Vegas, mistakenly refer to car wrecks as traffic accidents.
Wow.. two people are dead because this excuse for a human being was in a hurry to get home? Youve got to be kidding me.
tuffguy: do you believe in Karma? This mishap had nothing to do with anyone's race. It was caused by gross stupidity and recklessness.
Impose a $500 (or higher) fine for speeding. If the fine is not paid within 30 days, the license should be suspended. If a driver is caught while driving with a suspended license, impose a mandatory jail time. Drivers will think twice before they put the pedal to the metal.
Sergio: slow down and stop drinking so much of that Costa Rican coffee.
Seeergio again....go figure. Perfect example of what a D-bag you are. Who drives Dodge Vipers?...and who names their kid Sergio. I don't even you know, but I have you pegged.
What a tool. Probably really drive a PT-Cruiser and fantasize about being this SERGIO character you created.
Really we should hold these people up to public scorn..he should get life.. a car or truck is a loaded gun .... people drive to fast and with out care... and people die for no reason all the time and no one cares if you are found to be driving in a reckless manner and you kill some one they shoould let the family of the deceased run you over in a monster truck
Ah, Sergio. You sure as $hit don't know how to drive, even in that Dodge Viper! (Who the F still drives that car???) And you BRAG about your "driving skills"??? One day we will finally see YOUR MUGSHOT because you were speeding in your Dodge Viper (LOLOL) and will end up killing someone. What a schmuck you are.
You do not make a left turn, even on a green light, WITHOUT yielding to oncoming traffic, Moron!!! Yes, even the old farts know this. If it's clear - you turn. And even if you are STILL in the intersection when the light turns red and you complete your turn - you are NOT RUNNING A RED LIGHT A**WIPE!!! It is legal to move into an intersection while waiting to make a left hand turn. You still have the right of way to make that turn, with caution, even on red. And if some a-hole like you comes along and hits the car turning and someone is killed - YOU will be the one going to jail for vehicular manslaughter, not the person making the left hand turn.
PS Everyone take heed when you see a Dodge Viper!!! It may very well be the Bag of Hot Air, aka Sergio, behind the wheel.
Being that I've attended over 5 traffic shcools in my life, I know the law
Oh please. That is NOTHING to brag about because after FIVE times attending traffic school, you are too f'ing stupid to learn anything. BTW - when the light is YELLOW, what do you think that means? That you put your foot on the gas to make the light? Or do you get prepared to stop if need be. Most likely, do you just sail thru the red light even though it has already turned red before you reached the intersection? When the light is RED, you STOP. There is no lapse time once the light turns red for those travelling in that direction. There is lapse time before the traffic in the other direction gets the green light because of ****heads like you!!
You don't know jack s&it about driving. I've been driving for more than 40 years and have an absolutely perfect driving record in two States.
And to BRAG about almost killing that many people? You are a menace to society.
Either that - or your posts are nothing but lies. Maybe you feel like a big man by telling these "tall tales" but it only shows what a moronic idiot you really are.
PS My "intersection" info came straight from Metro. I inquired when I first moved to Vegas because people have the strangest driving habits there. I wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking any laws. And I wasn't. Also, most people are smart enough, unlike you, that when they see a moron like you speeding thru the red light, they will stay clear of the vehicle.
Throw that ugly idiot in prison, hopefully he will rot in there for the next 20 years, if he dosent get whacked by the Blacks, or the Hispanics...
First of all, Sergio, they were NOT turning! This happened while they had the right of way, a green light! And in case you haven't read all of the articles, he had ran more than one red light! Perhaps, you should read all of the story and make sure you understand it before you comment! This @$$hole took my cousin and my aunt, and you have the nerve to say, they had it coming! How dare you! And if you like to speed, and dont care if you die in an accident, good for you, but dont endanger the life of others!
And I guarantee you that if this had been your mom and brother, you wouldnt be commenting such BS on here!
This was no accident ! He was Driving recklessly!He was weaving in and out of traffic running red lights, he killed two people alll becuase he thought running lights would get him home faster, little did the idiot know he would never make it home! Hope He'll be as eager to sit in jail !
This is a case for Dexter!
I like people like Sergio...they are usually the recipients of my brake jobs...I have gotten a few new cars this way.
I agree with Serg. Slow people cause people to drive more aggressive than normal. And no its not a race thing. Driving down Lamb people drive 10 to 15 mph slower than posted speed. Why would one want to drive that slow....they have something to hide. It could be having no DL, NPOI, warrants or being not being a legal resident. Its not racsism, its being real, drive down Lamb from Craig to DI and call me a liar. And by the way I think its horrible what happened to all three people involved and their families.
slow people cause accidents?...or impatient people cause accidents. Tuffguy is a racist, not just, "calling like it is". It is "called" racism..mexicans, blacks, whites, jews, muslims, gays, straights, blondes, brunettes...all cause accidents...and get into accidents. Maybe more mexicans drive on Lamb and Craig based that is not surprising because there are many mexicans living in the NorthEast. Just as their are many asians in the Southwest. Sergio is an idiot...never lived in, "Cali" probably (noboby from California calls it, "Cali". Calls himself a prophet. Tool.
sergio, get over yourself. until only one driver remains on the pavement, it ain't gonna be one set of rules for one, another set for others. elbowing other people out of your way takes many forms, but is generally a sign of cowardice and lack of consideration. pretty much what this brat did when he casually caused those two to die for no valid need. slap his butt into prison, keep him there for say 10 years each person dead. consecutive, not concurrent either.
Anus stretching for you sonny boy.
Wow! Now I'm scared. Poor Boy....it seems to me he was trying to commit suicide by traffic. Doesn't his face seem a little odd? There's something *more* going on there than meet's the eye...
I am always so puzzled and amazed on their attitudes after murders like these.
slower traffic does not cause accidents....slower drivers are being more cautious and courteous...why the need to drive so fast...life is short..slow down and enjoy the view...carefuk with the aggressive behavior...because if we end up at the same destination I am likely to pull you out of the window and give you city boys a taste of a good country a$$ whippin
To all citizens of Las Vegas, you need to vote for Stricter laws, check other city/ states laws, 6-10 years. People like him have no regard for life other than himself.
This is very crazy the one that does the killing alway's walks away with a scratch. Never you here someone got hit by a drunk driver a they live.
Why are you assuming that they are illegally here? Was that comment necessary? AND FYI, we're not MEXICAN! We SALVADORAN you idiot! Not all hispanic people are Mexican, and not all hispanics are here illegally. Stop being so ignorant!
If someone is at an intersection and the person in front of them doesnt turn until the light is red, what do you suggest the person behind them do? back up?
Hello look at our state statistics mexicans cause
80% of accidents. most of the time they have no
insuarance.
Some slower drives drive slow because they have no clue how to drive in the first place. It's not always cautious and courteious. Speeders are the same, no clue.
There's nothing worse than aggressive drivers. We all know the type. Tailgating, weaving in and out of traffic, always applying the brakes because they are too close to the driver in front of them.
Sounds like this imbecile was driving like a lunatic. They have to throw the book at guys like this. I know he didn't mean to hurt anyone, but when you are driving like a maniac, something should click in your brain that says "whoa, maybe I should slow it down because sooner or later I'm going to cause an accident or be involved in one trying to avoid the "slow" drivers."
Essentially, this kids life is ruined. Jail, permananent murder rap. In today's world where your life is an open book, everyone and anyone will know exactly what you did. There is no hiding with the internet. 50 years ago, he would have done his time, moved away and started a new life with no one knowing anything about him.
There's no excuse for what happened, but just another case in point - there's no guarantee that when you leave home in the morning that you'll be back that night. So hug your kids, make sure your wife knows that you love her, make peace with your god (or yourself) and make sure your affairs are in order. And don't think life insurance is a waste of money.
I send my condolences to the victims in this car wreck.
Every time I read stories like this I worry about my family when they get in their cars. This is clearly a case of reckless driving and Nathan needs to have his license revoked forever.
Oops. I meant to send condolences to the family of the victims.
i personally knew the victim danny santos and i talked to him the day before this s*it happened. it hurts my heart that some of you would try to justify what happened in anyway. this a**hole needs to rot in prison and pray to god that he doesnt have to spend eternity in hell. but none of this will bring danny and his mom back to us. it just f**king sucks. end of story.
illejes, i feel your pain. I'm Danny's cousin from LA. I hope to meet you @ the viewing.
Has Nathan, or his family offered to pay for the funeral. Probably, not. He and his family don't deserve to live.
Mr Nathan Hardy is probably out of jail by now. Sitting at home with his loser family.
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NO To TEENAGE DRIVING!!!
Its bad enough that we have drunk drivers everywhere but to add immature, inexperienced, thrill-seeking, speed-happy teenagers on the road is too much.
ON THE BRIGHT SIDE, THEY CAN BE ALLOWED TO DRINK ALL THE BOOZE TO THEIR HEARTS DELIGHT BUT THEY SHOULD NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER BE ALLOWED WITHIN A MILE OF ANY MOTOR VEHICLE FOR THEM TO DRIVE.