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A woman rocks her child during an immigration vigil at Amistad Cristiana, an interdenominational church on Stewart Avenue, Thursday, August 5, 2010. Pastor Joel Menchaca said he called the vigil because many people were fearful after a series of immigration raids last week.
Friday, Aug. 6, 2010 | 2:35 a.m.
Armistad Cristiana
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Pastor Joel Menchaca’s voice rang through a small downtown Las Vegas church Thursday evening as he led a group of about 100 mostly Hispanic worshippers in song.
“Te amo dios,” he sang, microphone in-hand, as the voices of those in the crowd joined him. Some swayed to the beat. Others raised their hands in praise as they sang along.
“I love you, Lord,” came the next verse, in English.
But Thursday’s service wasn’t a night of regular worship at Armistad Cristiana: It was a community vigil.
A week earlier, an immigration sweep at Las Vegas-area bus terminals netted the arrests of more than two dozen suspected illegal immigrants by federal agents — arrests that have left the valley’s Hispanic community shaken.
“The reason we’re having the vigil is because a lot of people are afraid. They don’t want to go out,” Menchaca said. “We want to let them know that there is hope in God.
“He hasn’t forgotten about us, and we are here to pray for all.”
Menchaca was one of a half a dozen ministers from various valley congregations who addressed those gathered at the church at 901 Stewart Ave.
Michael Flores, an activist with Las Vegas-based Progress NowNevada, was one of the event’s organizers. He said he wanted to help quell the worry that began to bubble after the arrests.
“We’re really trying to calm the situation down. A lot of people in the community are very panicked,” he said. “We’re using the churches as a vessel to get the word out to be calm.”
U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents and Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials arrested 31 people on July 29 in sweeps at a Greyhound bus station, the Tufesa bus station, and the Los Angeles/El Paso Limousine Bus, said Supervisory Border Patrol Agent Kenneth Quillin.
Twelve of those arrested had a prior criminal history, said Quillin, who is based in Yuma, Ariz.
He described the arrests as “an intelligence-based operation...aimed at disrupting human smuggling activities at transportation sites that are used as a means to further illegal trafficking.”
He couldn’t speak as to whether future sweeps were planned for Las Vegas.
Florentino Martinez is among those who have been on edge since last week’s arrests.
He came to Las Vegas about 10 years ago after he and his wife both paid a “coyote,” or a human-smuggler, $1,000 to be transported across the Mexican border.
Like many who cross into the United States illegally, Martinez wanted a better life.
Since the sweeps last week, he’s been afraid, he said.
“We’re scared. We almost don’t want to go into the streets or want to go anywhere because something could happen,” he said in Spanish, with Flores translating, outside the church.
Now he worries that he could be sent back to Mexico and be faced with leaving behind his small children, all of whom were born in the U.S.
It’s not that he doesn’t want to be a legal citizen. It’s that it’s too difficult, he said.
Echoing a refrain common to those on all sides of the immigration debate, he said reform is needed.
Flores called the current immigration policies a “lose-lose situation.”
“We have a big message to politicians and candidates, which is that we have a broken immigration system,” Flores said. “I think everybody wants this issue to be fixed, and we need to do it in a fair, just way. But we can’t have people living in fear.”
Many at Thursday’s vigil said they believed the arrests were conducted to send a message and pointed to the fact that they took place on the same day a federal judge delayed implementing parts of the controversial new Arizona immigration law.
Daniel Martinez, 3, waits during an immigration vigil at Amistad Cristiana, an interdenominational church on Stewart Avenue, Thursday, August 5, 2010. The boy's father was one of the musicians. Pastor Joel Menchaca said he called the vigil because many people were fearful after a series of immigration raids last week.
Some also questioned some of the tactics the agents reportedly used in making the arrests.
“I know they have intelligence, but there needs to be accountability in agencies. They can’t just do things because they want to,” Flores said.
One of the purposes of Thursday’s gathering, Flores said, was to make sure people were informed about their rights upon being questioned.
Joelda May, Menchaca’s daughter and assistant pastor at Armistad Cristiana, said that although the sweeps were unexpected and frightening, they have brought the Hispanic community closer together.
“I think it’s making our community tighter and opening our eyes to how we need to help each other out,” she said.
Rumors of other raids, though unfounded, have been swirling since last week.
A number of undocumented people have been afraid to leave their homes and go out in public for fear of being arrested in a raid, she said. Neighbors or fellow parishioners who are here legally have been helping them out — for example, by going to the supermarket for them.
“If we continue to get this information out to the community, if we continue to open everyone’s eyes up and to have these reunions as much as we can and bring everyone together, I think it’s just going to help them realize that we’re not going to leave them by themselves,” May said. “We’re going to be here as a church, as a community, as a family and help in any way we can.”
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I certainly am not racial but lets look at this story. Here for TEN years and can't speak English, won't become a citizen because its To Hard, of the 31 arrested 12 had criminal records being helped by legal immigrants to break the law. There was a sting operation because of Human Trafficking. How much does it cost us to support these efforts. Why do legal citizens of this country aid and abet Illegal activity. Call me what you want but this needs fixing and I'm not in favor of amnesty.
would you call them immigrants or refugees? mexico isnt exactly someplace i would move to. americans protest about illegal aliens yet too complacent when using these same people for landscaping,construction or cleaning the pool.
Send 'em home!!!!
I hope they get the hint that illegals are not welcome, whether they are hispanic, asian, european or other. If your not hear legally, we dont want you. We have laws and unfortunately the fed only applies the law at will and not across the board.
If you don't like our laws, GO HOME!!!!
If they are not CRIMINAL INVADERS they dont have to worry.
If you're here illegally,I'm hoping you're living in fear and do pray you and others like you get caught and deported immediately! (Hint:) How about posting I.N.S. personnel at medical & social locations as a deterrence to these illegals?
ICE doesn't have the manpower to do any large scale deportations. They only target high value illegals who are felons.
Perhaps these people should fix their broken countries? I'd love to be able to travel back to Mexico and beyond sometime. Now it's too dangerous. Take a copy of the Declaration, Constitution, and Bill of Rights with you and fix your countries.
this is one thing that my mexican friends need to understand . if you have been a model citizen while you have been here there is a great chance for you to stay with CIR but if you have gotten into trouble while you have been here you should self deport for the good of your people because even if a path to citizenship is created individuals with a bad record will still be going back to mexico. those people need realize that they have ruined their dream and start making plans to return to mexico . the rest of the undocumented will have a greater chance at reform
Mr.Menchaca, this is all the legal citizens have been doing for years putting our faith in god. This story reeks! They admit to breaking our federal laws but then claim of their innocence. They are lucky Eisenhower isn't President, I believe he is one of only two Presidents that actually removed illegals from our country.
Mr. Obama, Reid and the other politicians who are for immigration reform and amnesty have constituents who are pulling away from them because they want enforcement over reform.
Our politicians know how much federal, state, city and county taxpayers money is being wasted and spent on illegal aliens, yet our government won't enforce it. Do not vote for any candidate who is not for immigration enforcement.
Asking our law enforcement officers to decide based on appearance who might be legal and who might not is unfair and un-American. People risk their lives to come here in hopes of getting jobs. I really think the focus should be on employers who hire undocumented workers. If the word gets out that enforcement is strict here, they will go elsewhere or stay home. At least I hope so.
Typical criminals, sweating it when Johnny Law comes looking.
Is this why they are called "illegals"?
I don't feel sorry for them at all. I can't wait to read all the apologists postings after they wake up and get their morning handout.
If its too hard to become a citizen then go somewhere else. wanna stay then learn English
like everyone else has to and obey the laws! not willing to do so?... then i hope the worse for you.
No worries, these undocumented democrats have more representation in DC then we do.
I wouldn't be too concerned. Ultimately they get their way and us legal citizens will go about our daily lives because we refuse to do anything about it.
These illegals invade our country breed anchor babies and then demand an easy way to gain citizenship. They are draining of social services and they have no respect for our laws. They are criminals and everyone of them should be punished for invasion. They are making our school system a disaster because they refuse to learn English or speak English. DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS. I want to know why ICE is not hitting this church. We know when they are going to be there and according to this article most of em are illegal. ICE start raiding these churches!
The three countries with the largest immigration to the USA are Mexico, The Phillipines and India. Only one group demands special treatment. Only one group expects to be allowed to break the law.
Here is a very disturbing issue. Latinos as a group have the lowest college graduation rates in the USA, about 10%. I am not saying that Latinos are any less intelligent or capable than any other group only quoting a statistic. If the fastest growing population has the lowest college graduation rate what will happen to the USA in the next fifty years? It will turn into a third world nation.
Illegal immigration and amnesty may provide us with people willing to do low paying jobs but does nothing to improve our level of education nor our competitiveness in the world. That is a threat to all of us and a threat to our national security. Will gardeners earn enough to pay for my social security after I pay into it for forty years or will I be taxed even more to pay for a poorly educated group of people who have lots and lots of poorly educated kids.
If ICE were serious about enforcement it could round up 200 illegals in one morning just by hitting the various Star Nursery branches in town. Regardless, enforcement will always be opportunistic and unfair in our totally dysfunctional immigration system.
At the root of our very existance we are tribal... we don't like people who don't look or act like us. Go into any multi-cutural school cafeteria and you'll see the whites on one side the blacks on the other. The hispanics stick together as do the jocks and/or the stoners. Yap all you want about illegals and amnesty and laws are laws, etc. most of you don't like the hispanic community because they're different and you talk about them like they're trash. It's sad that've you've placed yourselves in such a superior position in your own minds because you're white and you speak english!
In my opinion the hispanic culture as a rule is very hard-working and extremely family oriented and certianly not any worse for soceity than the budweiser drinkin' white trailor trash that thrives in the valley or the gang-bangin' blacks in North Las Vegas. My point is there are flaws in every race and culture. It's time to get off the constant hispanic bashin' platform.
Why does our Federal Goverment bring a lawsuit against Arizona but not against the so called "Sanctuary Cities" that openly advocate breaking Federal law committing treason in the process? Could it be that they are liberal strongholds brimming with Democratic voters? Where is Eric Holder's stance on this issue? What hypocrisy!
Let's define amnesty. A slap in the face to all the legal immigrants who played by the rules, learned about our country, moved here, took any job they could find, learned english, sent their kids to school and lived the american dream.
How about health issues. Immigrants should be screened for communicable diseases to prevent diseases from being introduced into the general population. That does not happen when we allow illegal immigration or grant amnesty.
Go ahead, penalize employers who hire illegals simultaneously with stopping illegal immigration and repatriating those who broke the law to get here.
Why not apply the same immigration standards as Mexico? That would fix our immigration problem!
Prag, good point. A few years ago the AMA was writing reports about deseases that were wiped out here in the USA years ago were all of a sudden showing up around the USA. When people legally immigrate into our country they are inoculized to current standards. Illegals bring in whatever is in their body. No protection.
It seems our government could care about deseases that are coming back to life in our citizens.
15% of Mexican kids in school go on to get a degree after high school. 85% do not.
Who do you think is flooding across the border? Not the educated capable of contributing to our educated workforce. Just the opposite.
President Obama wants to increase our college graduation rates. Quite a challenge without our current immigration policy. A nightmare with our current immigration policy.
The "dumbing down" of America continues as we allow the poorly educated to flood across our borders in disproportionate numbers
" Now he worries that he could be sent back to Mexico and be faced with leaving behind his small children, all of whom were born in the U.S. "
Take them with you, we don't want them.
Not only are these people illegal, they are stupid!
Chunky says:
If they are here legally they should have nothing to be on "edge" about!
Chunky says you break the law you pay the price!
However, Chunky also would potentially consider supporting a very limited amnesty period and program where illegals who could prove they have been here a while AND working as contributing members of our society could legally apply for citizenship... IF they qualify. Converting them into citizenship could be less costly than law enforcement and deportation.
By the same token, after the amnesty program the legal ramifications should be severe.
Please don't toss Chunky under the bus and beat him up for this idea, he's not saying it is the answer, just something to consider.
That's what Chunky thinks... sort of!
It's about time we did something, we need more of these raids, get these people off the streets and back to their country, I am all for it. Keep it going
By the way, I speak Spanish and work daily with lots of Latinos. I respect hardworking people who wish a better life for themselves and their families.
I do not respect breaking the law.
Perhaps I should stop paying income tax, demand amnesty and scream racism if questioned by the IRS. I am sure Mr. Flores and the ACLU will stand shoulder to shoulder with me at the podium during my interview declaring that it is my god given right to break the law.
Ahh how I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning!
Your gonna love this one. On Who Wants To Be A Millionaire last night the question was : Which country is Spanish the official language? The choices were : Spain, Argentina, Brazil, and Mexico. The answer with no surprise was : Mexico. So let me see, if I went to live in Mexico, that would mean I would need to learn their language in order to survive because no one would speak English. But, they could all come to America in droves illegally, and never learn to speak English because everything here is handed to them on a silver platter. Hey, how nice for them!
WOW. Michael Flores - an activist - for what? Illegal activity? He said that Immigration Customs 'can't just do things because they want to' but isn't that what the illegals have done? They've come here illegally - because they wanted to. And, he's trying to educate the illegals about their rights if they are being questioned - no citizenship - no rights. All of the 'citizens' that are helping the illegals by going to the supermarket for them, are BREAKING THE LAW. You are aiding and abetting a criminal, you are part of the problem. Florentino Martinez and his anchor babies should be sent back to whereever they came from, why, because he is here illegally and is BREAKING THE LAW. The excuse - they just want a better life. Well, I do to. Should I break into a mansion somewhere and demand that they take care of me??? We all want a better life, but BREAKING THE LAW to get it is still ILLEGAL.
The solution is fairly simple, deny them a job and deny them unemployment, and they will leave.
When Harry Reid voted AGAINST mandatory E-verify he did this country another geat disservice.
Here we have the church, a tax exempt organization helping illegal aliens to evade the law. If our Democrat controlled government had any guts (the former Republican President and government had none) the IRS would immediately revoke the tax exempt status of this church, ICE would arrest the paster for helping illegal aliens and be outside the church during the next service. If you are a citizen or legal resident you have nothing to worry about, illegals be aware. With an unemployment rate of 9.5% and above (14.5% in Vegas), America dosen't need 12 to 20 million poor, illiterate pesants commiting crimes, taking our jobs, over burdening the emergency rooms and flooding our schools with their children. Please don't talk to me about the taxes illegals pay, which is far less than the government services they use. Enforce the current laws, deport illegal aliens now!
I would favor comprehensive immigration reform where a work permit is issued for a limited time on the condition that the applicant can prove a steady work record and no criminal record. The work permit can be extended given that they maintain a consistent work record and also no criminal record. In this way, the U.S. could control the work numbers given the economic level because we should rather have Americans working in a slow economy. The idea of showing a work record is important because that will discourage immigrants from working under the table because that kind of work would not offer any king of supporting documentation they would need to prove a steady work record.
As part of the immigration reform perhaps it can require the applicant to agree that any children born while they are working in the U.S. will not qualify for U.S. citizenship.
I don't see that a path to citizenship should be a required part of the reform. At least it can be deferred for a later debate.
We lose our country if we dont do this!
Deportation is the appropriate penalty for for illegal aliens who broke the law!
It's about time we stop rewarding people for breaking the law. They need to be deported.
We do not have an immigration "reform" problem. We have an immigration "enforcement" problem.
@ Pragmatist I don't agree with every one of your points, however, you seem genuine about your concerns (unlike some of the other hysterical rhetoric from others). I would only say that almost all immigrant groups throughout American history were limited in education level. That's number one. Number two, don't confuse Mexican with Hispanic/Latino. Other Hispanic groups (Colombian, Cuban, Venezuelan, Argentinian) come with higher training/education but come here for a better life because of various issues back home.
The majority of people coming here really want a better life. Economic reports indicate that despite our current recession, in ten year's time, the US will have a shortage of labor force. We need these workers (of all kind).
I agree people must come here legally. However immigration reform is necessary since it takes about 10-15 years to get proper papers.
To all posters advocating deportation: Easier said than done. That comment means nothing because logistically, it's impossible. Period. Not that I disagree, it's just not possible. Business-wise, believe me, you can harp about taking that job, but all the millions of vacant positions (after a hypothetical wholesale deportation of millions) in poultry farms, slaughterhouses, et al, et al, would bring our economy to a complete and utter halt.
To you I say: REAL solutions, not FOX talking head points.
Many social issues are simply not BLACK or WHITE. Our great Nation needs a REFORM (ASAP). I do believe in AMNESTY, deporting human beings from their settled life in the USA is inhumane. Many undocumented immigrants don't have families, work, connections, etc. from their 3rd world country. i don't know the legal qualifications to enter the USA for rumors has it the rules and waiting time impedes lower class immigrants. Lets not forget how this Country was born from illegal immigrations, i don't think the early Europeans registered a visa card from the NATIVE AMERICANS. Therefore, there must be a better way in dealing with this COLORFUL issue.
So lets see, the state of Arizona enacted a state law against illegal immigration and people like Michael Flores yelp and complain that that's the job of the federal government. So, when the feds start doing their job, illegal alien enablers and supporters start whining about that. Just proves that they don't want any government agency, state or federal, enforcing immigration laws. Maybe Flores can tell us why that is?
Don't you just love that these criminals are not afraid to give their full name to the media in articles like this and aren't afraid of ever being prosecuted. They admit they broke the law in the paper and yet nothing gets done to punish them.
facts from fbi 83%of murders and muder warrants in la illegals 85% new mexico illegals 81%in pheonix illegals. 75% of the most wanted in la pheonix new mexico illegals. 29.1% of all inmates in california prisons mexican nationals. last year 630000 illegals who are inmates in this country cost the tax payers 1.6 billion dollars. 380000 anchor babies borb in us last year 97.2% were paid by tax payers. between california nevada arizona new mexico 63% of all traffic stops the person had no license registration or insurance once again illegals 53% of house break ins in las vegas illegals and tthey say we have no problem
Lets treat the illegal aliens like we would get treated as illegals in Mexico. Kick them all out they are criminals under our constitution.
Go home to Mexico. Get out of our country. Stop having babies.
If I broke into someone's home and was stealing money from their checking account, I would be on edge as well. Regardless of the political correct leftists' portrayal of these scofflaws as "undocumented workers" or the rights' portrayal of them as "anchor-baby making welfare leeches," the simple truth is they broke the law when they entered the country and should be on edge. The ICE van is coming . . .
Pragmatist, great posts. I hope you are or can become a local politician, or maybe a journalist. We need people like you - common sense - in government, and making your commentary public. You are right on.
Now we're facing possibly having a nut job elected because people are so sick of Reid, and his support of amnesty is one of the major reasons why.
GEEE. Do you think you criminals should be afraid? Our tourist industry would pick up with the " PEOPLE THAT HAVE LEGALLY REQUESTED ENTRANCE TO THE U.S.A"THEY AREN'T AFRAID TO GO THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS" They have sponsers ready to give them jobs, so they won't be on the "Welfare line", THE FEED AND BREEDERS NEED TO GO!! Property taxes pay for their kids school. We pay they rent!!THE FREE RIDE IS OVER!!!
Vote for your boy sandoval he will give you vouchers to go to schools of your choice. He may even let you stay at his home since he is proud of his half hispanic culture. Maybe rory reid will not try and convert you to mormonism and let your children into over crowded classrooms so that they can try and learn. Bothe of these candidates love you so much that brian said he favored the AZ law and then backtracked when his fellow hispanics are up in arms about it. True politicians. Sandoval and REid are BAD FOR NEVADA. Let them run in Alaska, they need more idiots running there now that murkowski and palin left..Wake up Nevadans and see that these two are bad for your state. Nevada will be toast if rory gets in and Sandoval will lay off teachers, layoff lunch ladies and who knows what else. State employees will go bye bye. Wake up Nevadans! There is still time left to find other candidates who must be running for office.
Keep Dreamming, there will always be illegals and you remove 20 and 40 are on the way, Why?
The white man is cheap they will hire an illegal to save 5 dollars an hour times 40 hours, that is $200 times maybe 10 illegals that will be $2000.00 a week, they can stop this today by targetting the employer not the employee, but as always they target the weak and the easy target, the one that will make the news
This what Capitalism will do, rich getting richer and the stupids blaming the Mexicans JAJAJAJAJa
TO LUIOSA MAYBE WE SHOULD DEPORT YOU MORON JAJAJAJJA WHEN MOST OF THE MAJOR CRIMES ARE COMMITTED BY YOUR PEOPLE CHECK MY BLOG WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM
I'm Mexican American and I feel that if your ILLEGAL then go back HOME where you came from!!!!! This goes for all illegals but especially towards the MEXICANS and CHINESE!!! If you want to live here in AMERICA then do it the LEGAL way!!! Learn how to speak ENGLISH since ENGLISH is the language to speak in AMERICA!!! I hope all the ILLEGALS get send home!!! Plus alot of the illegals take jobs that should belong to the true AMERICANS!!!
Cross the North Korean border illegally you get 12 years hard labor.
If you cross the Iranian border illegally you are detained indefinitely.
If you cross the Afghan border illegally, you get shot.
If you cross the Saudi Arabian border illegally you will be jailed.
If you cross the Chinese border illegally you may never be heard from again.
If you cross the Venezuelan border illegally you will be branded a spy and your fate will be sealed.
If you cross the Mexican border illegally you will be jailed for two years.
If you cross the Cuban border illegally you will be thrown into political prison to rot.
If you cross the United States border illegally you get:
1 - A job
2 - A driver's license
3 - A Social Security card
4 - Welfare
5 - Food stamps
6 - Credit cards
7 - Subsidized rent or a loan to buy a house
8 - Free education
9 - Free health care
10 - A lobbyist in Washington
11 - Billions of dollars in public documents printed in your language
12 - Millions of servicemen and women who are willing to -- and do -- die for your right to the ways and means of our constitution
13 - And the right to carry the flag of your country - the one you walked out on -- while you call America racist and protest that you don't get enough respect.
Solve the problem call 1-800-Deport Them Home
Axiom, nothing is impossible. Remember the census workers going door to door to those who didn't respond to the questionnaire? Do the same thing with the illegals. If you fail to respond to the questions and do not send back the questionnaire, raid that home. For example, the census questionnaire had us put in our social security numbers along with the origin of our birth. If you had nothing to fear, you put that information in with no problem. You also sent it off in the mail. Those who did not send back the questionnaire, you guessed it...illegal. The census people knocked on doors, do you think they were let in? That's when INS should get involved, and send the authorities out to their homes. You want this place cleaned up? There is always a way around it. Like I said, nothing is impossible.
Dear President Calderon,
I'm planning to move my family (my wife is currently pregnant) and extended family into Mexico, and I would like to ask you to assist me. We plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. Please note that I will be expecting the following:
1. Free medical care for my entire family.
2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.
3. All Mexican government forms need to also be printed in English.
4. I want my children to be taught Spanish by English-speaking (bilingual) teachers.
5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.
6. I want my kids to see the American flag on one of the flag poles at their school.
7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.
8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.
9. I do plan to get a car and drive in Mexico, but I don't plan to purchase car insurance, and I probably won't make any special effort to learn local traffic laws.
10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from their president to leave me alone, please be sure that every patrol car has at least one English-speaking officer.
11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put U.S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.
12. Please tell all the Mexican people to be extremely nice and never say a critical thing about me or my family, or about the strain might we place on their economy.
Thank you, I am sure this can be accomplished easily as America has been doing this for many years!
U.S. citizen and taxpayer
Shoulda waited outside the church and busted everybody coming out.
You illegal Mexicans don't belong here. You're ruining our proud country with your gang activities and the handouts you get. Go back to Mexico and fly your damned flag and speak your language all you want.
Can i ask everyone, why just the mexicans?? What about the chinese??? There are so many Chinese that are over here illegal and feeding on our Social Security system, WIC and other government help that should be use for the TRUE AMERICANS??? All i keep hearing is about the mexicans.....
GOOD!!!
The ones who are here LEGALLY don't have anything to worry about!!!
AGAIN - The poor illegal immigrants, do they ever have a happy day. They are always crying, complaining, not satisfied with what the American people do for them. Why don't they just go back to Mexico.
Deport to Iraq
What do the Illegal Immigrants do for Las Vegas ??? I am so sick of my tax dollars going to these people and they NEVER appreciate a thing that we do for them...
Plant the Mexician seeds in the Middle East.
I wonder if the table was turned and the Mexicans had to give their hard earned money to illegal American immigrants, they would be protesting like hell .
axiom they will self deport if you deny them jobs and services.
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seriously, maybe if the latino community would stop harboring these illegal idiots maybe they would not have to worry about it.
what part of breaking the law do these morons not understand.
any legal mexican immigrant i have ever spoken to hates illegal mexicans! so seriously, i dont get why defending criminals is even being discussed.
latinos are giving themsevles an even worse name by defending the actions of their illegal counterparts. the illegal counterparts already put a bruise on how some look at them, now its beyond that. i have lost a lot of respect for these crybabies that they have become.
Bust all the Casino's who are hiring illegal immigrants with fake social security number. About 30% Casino workers are illegal immigrants, would'nt it be nice to replace those jobs with American Citzens. THANKS HARRY REID FOR LOOKING OUT FOR THE PEOPLE OF LAS VEGAS.
I am so tired of uneducated hispanics saying our country was built on illegal immigrants.
READ THE HISTORY
Our country was build by immigrants who came to this country LEGALLY, wanted to be PART of something new, not CHANGE it to another impoverished country. They LEARNED the language, LEARNED the laws, OBEYED them and became PART of our country.
All these things are lost on the current crop of people coming here who feel since we have more we should just give it to them.
If you don't like how it is here, how our laws work, then go back, take your family. Please.
Oh wait, you don't want to do that because you would rather abuse our systems and whine and cry.
Look im latina, I feel like this illegals are not only hispanic, yet the focus are on latinos only. I dont see raids in chinatown. What about all the Europeans, Russian, australian heck anywhere else besides south of the border. For that reason I feel it is all racially motivated. If not then prove me wrong why cant I see on news massive raid in china town or West side. Illegals are all people in this country without papers, all nationalities not just Hispanics. But I guess like Arizona people only see brown.
I would think they should feel anxious about breaking the law. I understand this newspaper is not just printing a story, they have an agenda to make Americans feel bad about deporting criminals.
NUTZ !
@702VOICE
I totally AGREE with you!!! That's how i feel. I'm Mexican American and I agree with all this Illegal stuff but i keep hearing just about the hispanics!!! WTF??? There are alot of CHINESE that are illegal and other races!!! Does anyone else agree with us??
isaacrod626 in answer to your question, do you see Chinese illegals standing outside Star Nursery or Home Depot? Go to Social Services and see how many Chinese people you see standing around for a handout. Do you see Chinese people demanding us to assimilate to their culture and language?
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@ FEDUPWITHTHIS
I'm originally from Los Angeles and YES the Chinese do go to our SOCIAL SERVICES!! They go to the Welfare Office driving BMW, MERCEDES,and other exotic cars and there the ones APPLYING for Food Stamps and cash aid!! Plus when i go into a chinese populated area, they look at me weird when I'm talking ENGLISH to them!!! They might not be standing outside home depot or star nursery but there the ones that are taking room in the Cargo Containers on LONG BEACH PIERS!! Overall they do ask for a HANDOUT but not from us but from the GOVERNMENT OFFICES!!
I got news for you, people! If you are in this country illegally: YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS. And for those who are here legally and helping them out, you are "aiding and abating" these people. So you yourselves are fellons.
isaacrod626 in case you haven't noticed, this is this is Las Vegas not Los Angeles. Go to Social Services and see who standing in line.
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Praying the Federal Governement away, huh? I've tried that, and let me tell you, "nothing fails like prayer." I just have to give credit to author Dan Barker, as that's his song: "Nothing Fails Like Prayer." So truthful...
702, my husband is brown. He's not a Mexican but brown nevertheless. Being brown as nothing to do with this, being here illegally is.
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I got news for you, people! If you are in this country illegally: YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS. And for those who are here legally and helping them out, you are "aiding and abetting" these people. So you yourselves are fellons.
isaacrod626 Good for Arizona! That sure woke up the rest of the country didn't it?
If I came here illegally and broke the law by doing so, I would be on edge, too. People who break the law are criminals.
I was just talking to my husband about this issue this morning and was wondering why the Mexicans who pop out their anchor babies wont take their children back with them to Mexico when they get deported. Is it because your $1,000 a year tax credit per child wont no longer be of use to you? Or your free welfare per child quota? My daughter was born in my husbands country, and it's funny but if I was not able to prove my U.S. citizenship to them, my daughter would have never been able to leave that country. Do you think for one moment I would leave my daughter there alone and come back to America to have better life? By the way my husband is from a third world country ( Not Mexico ). So it does piss me off to see all you illegals coming in droves to my country and popping out your anchor babies thinking that by having all them babies, they are your meal ticket to the American way. Enough already!
Just in case any of you out there are wondering, my husband came to this country in 1989, got his work permit, and his permanent resident card before we married in 1996. He received his United States Citizenship in 2005. My husband did everything legally, and he resents the illegals who come into this country and expect a handout.
This is a joke! If a person, any person, illegally crosses the US international border they are a criminal, PERIOD! SO what if the criminals are firghtened...they should be. If becoming a citizen is too hard for them then stay home. If you want hard try paying taxes all your life only to see them spent on criminals wanting a free ride. Quit praying and go home or quit breaking the law.
They feign victimization, but, they are racists, isolationists, separatists and criminals.
Birthright citizenship fraud is just an collateral effect of the lawlessness that manifests it, leading to this language, and all other barriers. Mexico deports foreigners deemed detrimental to national, or economic interests, violate its laws, or lack necessary funds for their sustenance or ability to support their dependents.
The myth of Aztlan can best be explained by California's School District's Chicano Studies textbook, "The Mexican American Heritage." On page 84 there is a redrawn map of Mexico and the United States, showing Mexico with a full one-third more territory, all of it taken back from the United States. On page 107, it says "Latinos are now realizing that the power to control Aztlan may once again be in their hands."
Shown are the "repatriated" eight or nine states including Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington. Aztlan myth is further amplified at MEChA club meetings held at Santa Barbara Public Schools, and around the country at College campuses.
The books are paid for by American tax payers, cites no references or footnotes, leaving school children totally dependent on their teacher to separate fact from opinion and political propaganda. The book teaches separatism, victimization, nationalism, completely lacks patriotism towards the United States, and promotes an open border policy.
How about the reconquista school La Academia Semillas del Pubelo in LA whose principal teaches ethnic separatism along with Aztec math. The Race was a co-sponsor of that school with extremist activists from MECHA.
Aztlan Academy in Tuscon, Arizona. According to The Race, the school's success rests on Aztlan's ability to integrate a meaningful Chicano Studies program into their lives, language, and academics.
Mexicayotl Academy in Nogales, Arizona. Who needs the three R's? At Mexicayotl, it's all about the three M's: me, me, me! The school's program is "structured and developed around the concepts of identity, culture, and language."
The Dolores Huerta Preparatory High School in Pueblo, Colorado. It's named after the far-Left Latina labor union activist who recently railed that "Republicans hate Latinos," praised illegal alien protesters, and bleated "We didn't cross the borders, the borders crossed us" in a hate-filled tirade before illegal alien students in Arizona.
Academia Cesar Chavez Charter School in St. Paul, Minn. Board member Louis Mendoza, an activist Chicano Studies professor, pushed the school to lobby for the federal DREAM Act (providing in-state tuition discounts to illegal alien students not available to legal non-residents). The school's website features one one flag on its front page: the Mexican flag.
When are they going to get the message that we've had enough?
Had this been happening to the Black community there would be rioting in the streets!
Mexico gave up Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington for the almighty American $$$. Now they want it back? I wonder if Mexico has enough pesos to buy it back?
"Fear and Faith are common traits of ignorance".
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702voice, the reason you feel that the focus is on Mexicans/Hispanics is due to the fact that they make up the highest percentage of the illegal immigrants in this town. You know that. Don't pretend to be a victim of racism or anything else. Please be realistic and reasonable. There will always be a few crazies that do focus on race, but don't sink to their level or pretend that it's the majority of the population that subscribes to those views.
They should be terrified of the consequences they face for breaking our laws and fraud of every aspect of our society.
The US must rid itself of this non-stop illegal alien tidal wave. It is well known and documented that State and Local law enforcement agencies can and do make arrests when certain Federal laws are broken within their authority. Bank robbery and drug trafficking are typical examples of this principle where local police arrest and detain individuals for violating Federal Laws.
There is no dispute that they retain this authority. If Federal Laws are being broken in State, County and City jurisdictions, those law enforcement agencies not only have a right, but an obligation to take appropriate action to protect American Citizens. Of course, they are subsequently obliged to notify and pander to the appropriate Federal Law Enforcement Agencies (sanctuaries).
The same holds true where illegal aliens, who violated Federal Immigration Law and subsequently committed crimes in State or Local jurisdictions, are detained by police. It has been proven time and time and time again, and upheld in the courts that State and Local police, in the course of their duties, do have the intrinsic authority to arrest identified illegal aliens for Federal immigration violations and hold them for Federal Immigartion Authorities.
This is accomplished under certain conditions and within specific constraints to comply with Federal Law. The idea that State and Local law enforcement must maintain a hands-off approach when Federal Immigration Laws are violated in their jurisdictions is erroneous, and seditious. All too often, State and Local police agencies fear that if they question the immigration status of anyone they detain for committing a crime, they are interfering in Federal Immigration Law enforcement activities and accused of profiling.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
"Mexico gave up Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington for the almighty American $$$. Now they want it back? I wonder if Mexico has enough pesos to buy it back?"
California is a debt-ridden hellhole. I would let Mexico have California for two chalupas.
Is it true that a large number of white "ICE" prisoner buses have been assembled in vegas near the strip?
Kudos to ICE for finally doing something about this problem! They should keep it up!!
I hate seeing our seniors living on social security that they paid in and barely eating when you have young illegals spitting out kids, getting paid per kid and eating and living better than people who are citizens, worked and paid taxes their whole life!! Not to mention our schools, our kids who want to learn are being hampered because half the kids who shouldnt be here anyway dont wanna learn, then the teachers spend more time with them so they wont be left behind.
Then you hv our medical system.. overwhelmed by illegals who dont pay, have no intention of paying because we owe them! Go to mexico and get hurt, you better have money or insurance or they wont even look at you!! I've been in Mexico where for NO reason I've been stopped by the federales, checked my ID, told I broke some stupid law, but throw em a C-note and they let ya go!
I've had illegals run stop signs in front of me, causing a wreck, just to get out and run because they 1, were illgal, 2. no drivers license or insurance. Then my insurance had to pay to fix my car! Enough of this!!
They say the economy would suffer by deporting them because of the money they spend... I say bull! The money we would save on welfare, education, medical etc etc, not to mention the amount of money they send out of the country would far exceed any amount that they spend here!!
The only reason the democrats are trying to make them legal is for their votes!! Its time to try and do something for our country and our economy!!
I think we should hire MORE immigration (ICE) officers and start a nation wide crackdown!! Deport their children too!! A child born in America to 2 illegals is still a illegal child!!
VegasShopper says: I really think the focus should be on employers who hire undocumented workers. If the word gets out that enforcement is strict here, they will go elsewhere or stay home. At least I hope so.
Kaliscanner says: As long as Hostess keeps making cupcakes, I'm gonna keep eating them. The only way I will quit eating the cupcakes is when Hostess quits making them.
Funny. In my neighborhood we have a very mixed group of residents. I haven't seen any "hispanics" holed up in their houses cowering in fear. But I guess actual facts get in the way of moving the liberal agenda forward.
They have no desire to learn English or assimilate into American Society. They come here, live in their Hispanic neighborhoods, speak only Spanish and continue to demand what they are not entitled to.
It's time the US gets tough on all these illegal aliens and it's time the US realizes that LaRaza, ICIRR, MALDEF, Hispanic Caucus, LCOM, MeCHA, and other supposed Immigrant support groups are supporting illegal immigration and promoting illegal immigration and using our money to help themselves to invading the USA.
Think about it, in 1986 the US Government gave amnesty to 3 million illegal aliens. In 2006 there was an estimated 16 to 26 million illegal aliens in the country. Very few of the 3 million illegal aliens took advantage of the amnesty to become citizens. Instead, they just had babies and maintained their illegal status.
That, in and of itself, should be a big red flag to the government that the motives of these illegals are not sincere -- except to take over the USA. The law says no flag shall be flown above the US Flag yet all we see are Mexican Flags above the US Flags and the government pandering to these invaders.
If millions of them can work so hard to change the US and march in our streets, tell me one good reason why they can't invade their own country and make positive changes? I can answer it -- they don't want Mexico to change. They want the US to change.
Oh, and think about this. All these illegal aliens had two, three, four, five or 10 children born on US soil. That makes all these children, born on US soil as a result of an illegal act, citizens of the US and eligible for ADC (aide to dependent children), welfare, and all the other benefits that are supposed to be available to US citizens - including running for President.
Hugo Chavez has been financially supporting churches in the US as well as Felipe Calderone and Vicente Fox from Mexico supporting all illegal aliens (while getting tax money to help them take over the country).
We citizens need to wake up and smell the crap these people are dishing out and we need to demand enforcement of the laws, report every illegal alien, report every landlord, business, church, or anyone else who hires, harbors, or helps illegal aliens, and we should have those people tried for treason.
Every church or city that offers sanctuary to illegal aliens should be refused any federal or state tax benefits for anything. The 14th Amendment fraud must be rescinded, and voting while illegally in the country must be stopped.
This will be a beginning.
Rick P the same laws that apply in other countries should apply here in America. Two illegals having a baby should never have their child be allowed automatic American Citizenship. My daughter was born in my husband's country and I had to prove 5 yrs of my life to the American Embassy; as a child, young adult and adult so my daughter could get dual citizenship. I had to send for my school transcripts, IRS copies, and anything that proved that I was a U.S Citizen. How do you think I felt at the American Embassy when I was told that if I couldn't prove my U.S citizenship to them that my daughter stays in their country and can't leave? But i'm suppose to welcome illegals to my country with open arms and let them dictate our laws and have us assimilate to their culture and language? No way Jose!
we all voted and we agree to give them texas.
How about New Mexico?
If you are here illegally from England, New Zealand, Switzerland, Thailand, Scotland, Poland, Holland (Netherlands), Deutschland (Germany), Ireland, Iceland, Finland, Greenland or whatever land you came from, please leave.
This is no longer the land of the free and home of the brave. It has become the land of the free for all and home of the depraved. When has it become "Racist" when immigration laws are enforced? Are the immigration laws that are enforced by Sweden, Australia, Iran, Israel, Morocco, Egypt, Mexico, China, Canada, Kenya, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Italy, Venezuela, Laos, India, etc. considered racist? Since when did the term "Illegal" define race. Wake up people! Illegal means illegal. Nothing more.
Those criminal invaders should be afraid"they should be very afraid. The legitimate citizens of the United States of America have had enough. In the words of Thomas Jefferson and Colonel John Dickinson:
"In our own native land, in defense of the freedom that is our birthright, and which we ever enjoyed till the late violation of it -- for the protection of our property, acquired solely by the honest industry of our fore-fathers and ourselves, against violence actually offered, we have taken up arms. We shall lay them down when hostilities shall cease on the part of the aggressors, and all danger of their being renewed shall be removed, and not before.
With a humble confidence in the mercies of the supreme and impartial Judge and Ruler of the Universe, we most devoutly implore his divine goodness to protect us happily through this great conflict""
Question to the illegals or those who stand up for the illegals: in a court of law, what is your defense for breaking the laws of the United States of America?
To all that say that if the employers simply stop hiring illegals, then the illegals will just stop coming. That's retarded. They will come, because living on welfare with free rent, free medical, free food and free education is better than where they were. Oh, they will come. And come they do. And guess what, we all get to pay for it. America does not have the testicular substance to JUST SAY NO. We don't want to be viewed as the bad guys. America is the refuge for the weak and weary. As an American citizen, I am weak and weary. But what protection do I get? I get to share my rights with any ole person that can outrun an immigration officer. I am not racist, being a minority myself. And I have to admit, I never really thought about these issues until I moved to Nevada. But now that I make a decent salary, own a home, have a high school student, pay car insurance (with an uninsured motorist clause) and pay quite a bit for medical insurance and copays, I do care. I care quite a bit. Why should I have to support the lifestyle of someone breaking the law? I hate what welfare has become. Sneak over and you can get it, be an American laid off from your job and face financial hardship, and you may find yourself SOL. Frick it, our country is going into the toilet, and we let our politicians do the flushing. Stand Up, challenge all of the politicians.
If you are illegal (no matter what race), you should stay in your home in fear, after all, I'm paying for that home. Maybe one day you will return the favor to me when I am jobless and homeless. I will hold my breath.
gw_spencer, don't hold your breath too long, you may croak. Our country is becoming a third world country. Las Vegans keep voting the same dipwads into office. Nothing will ever change!
The "Hispanic community" is shaking in it's zapatos, eh? Good! Of course all so called "Hispanics" aren't illegal alien parasites as the headline suggests.
Build a wall and deport 'em all, I say. They're all criminals and leeches.
Ironically, "Americans are told to remember the Alamo while forgetting Waco".
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In fact, for all those that support illegals receiving amnesty, I say this. Adopt an illegal. Let them stay with you for the 10-15 years it takes to become a citizen. Feed them, clothe them, home school them, whip out the first aid kit for their medical needs, give them money on Friday when you get paid. Sounds crazy doesn't it? Maybe it is ambigious to you how your tax dollars get spent therefore you don't mind how many billions of dollars we spend a year on people that shouldn't be in this country. Maybe, on payday, if you actually had to hand over cash money to the illegal you adopted, notice how your grocery bill has grown, and how your utility bills have skyrocketed, then you would see that illegals in America actually do have a direct affect on your earnings. And mine, and everyone else's except the illegal.
gw_spencer, you know the old saying " what you don't see don't hurt ya ". Well the U.S government and us taxpayers are taking care of their brother's & sister's for them, so they don't have to. Boy, can they breathe a sigh of relief!
Heard today that the government is detaining them at that border that are trying to return to Mexico. At first I was upset and did not understand but then inquired and this is what I found out. The government is arresting the ones suspected of drug trafficking and smuggling. So as you invaders crawl back across the border better head back the same route you crawled through to get here. I think they should also start seizing any assets or property these criminals obtained by invading our nation. Looks like maybe the government is starting to do something about this invasion.
GO HOME NOW. As we change the interpretation of the constitution YOUR ILLEGAL CHILDREN ARE NOT CITIZENS. You have no future here. GO SOUTH. We WILL DEPORT your children and all illegal invaders.
No more tax-free status to "churches" that provide sanctuary or demonstrate in favor of VIOLATING THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY. Deport them and their illegal children as they are NOT citizens.
"The best way to escape a problem is to solve it"
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These Mexican foreigners place their stinking Mexican flags up in their front yards as soon as they drive Americans out of their American neighborhoods!
We are sick of you! You have a homeland and you can't stay there! What the heck is wrong with these
creeps?
I can hardly wait until this worthless President is outta of the White House! He stinks!
He even fights Americans over this stinking issue!
I'm fed up with Mexican Nationals and Obama in the Oval Office.
"Imprisoned by laws which defy one's liberties is a preferred death than upon the battlefield defending those that wrote them."
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I don't agree with the Arizona Law,but I do not support illegals in the US. I like roseanrose comment about taking the tax-free status from churches that provide sanctuary/ assist illegals. Send em back to churches in Mexico.
Arizona is not the only state that is attempting to push forward new versions of our Federal laws that truncates the burden caused by out-of-control illegal immigration. Missouri, for one, placed a proposed constitutional amendment on their state ballot in 2007 designating English as their official language.
Ninety-six percent of the voters favored the amendment.
With the new law firmly in place, Missouri voters in 2008 passed a measure that required state highway patrol and other law enforcement officials to verify the immigration status of any person arrested. It then became mandatory to inform federal authorities if the person is found to be in this country illegally.
Not stopping there, in 2009, those same voters passed a measure ensuring Missouri's public institutions of higher education do not award financial aid to individuals who are here illegally.
None of the three laws passed from 2007-2009 has not once been contested by President Obama, Attorney General Holder or the U.S. Department of (In)Justice.
The same law also requires all post-secondary institutions of higher education to annually certify to the Missouri Dept. of Higher Education that they have not knowingly awarded financial aid to students are are illegally in the United States.
Arizona is a visible pandering stage for the Obama Administration to broadcast their fatally flawed determination to appease Mexico, the National Council of La Raza, it's present and illegitimate future voter bloc that threatens with the mythical Hispanic vote in disregard to what American citizens think.
The overwhelming majority of Americans support laws to combat illegal immigration. As more states (22 and counting) begin to force stricter and more specific laws to protect their voters, some ideas below might help control illegal immigration:
- No special bilingual programs in public schools.
- All ballots will be in the official language.
- All government business will be conducted in the official language.
- Non-citizens do not have the right to vote no matter how long they reside.
- Non-citizens should never be allowed to hold public office.
- No government (food stamps, etc.) for illegal aliens. Qualified citizens only.
- Foreigners are forbidden to protest including the waving of foreign flags, no open criticism of our political leaders or their policies. Violators will be deported.
- Illegal aliens will be actively sought by law enforcement and incarcerated until completion of deportation proceedings.
Americans would favor all of these laws.
Ironically, the fact that these laws are already on the books -- in Mexico.
Yes, Mexico...
It is clear to me that reform is needed. We are a country of immigrants and this gives us our strength. I am fairly sure that my great-grandparents didn't wait 15 years for citizenship. It was probably more like 15 days or even 15 minutes.
Thanks to Pragmatist and, once again, Axiom, for sensible, well reasoned comments.
Our great grandparents who came to this country did not do so illegally. They waited in line just like everybody else wanting a better life for themselves and their children. They never got a handout from the government. They paid for everything they acquired. They assimilated to the culture and language. Big differences if you ask me.
Oh devilswin99 it's way too easy. This is how it's done: 8 month pregnant illegal immigrant comes to America, pops out anchor baby, and then gets her hospital bill paid for by the government, and then gets welfare, housing, food stamps, WIC, for the baby, because well it's now an American Citizen. Illegal immigrant gets pregnant every 9 months thereafter because she realizes that for each baby, she gets more in welfare, food stamps etc. Now if she is also working illegally with a fake social security number, she also gets a $1,000 a year tax credit for each anchor baby she pops out. Hey, wouldn't you want the American dream if it were handed out to you for FREE?
Miguel Flores again. What else is new?
Imagine how much publicity he could get if ICE conducted raids in Vegas every day for a year. Even then that still wouldn't put a dent in it. It would take that long just to clean out the resort casinos. It's always difficult to completely get rid of any infestation.
Flores could be a real hero by leading a march south across the border with all illegals and their "citizen" kids in tow. Then he would get my respect for doing the right thing for americans. Let's see some of that ProgressNowNevada and make progress by not defending and abetting illegals.
FedUpWithThis...ok...point well taken...at the same time i think is unreasonable to ask a hard-working, religious, family-oriented person to wait 15 years to gain citizenship...forget Mexicans for a minute...I was talking to MEDICAL STUDENTS in Ireland...remember...these people will be doctors!...they said it was all but impossible to come to the US...is this what we want? I'm sure the same is true of software developers from India and China etc...this issue is not entirely about migrant farm workers.
pokerplayersgohome my husband arrived in the U.S in 1989 and became a citizen in 2005. How many years did he have to wait to become a citizen? 16 yrs. You said " I think it is unreasonable to ask a hard-working, religious, family-oriented person to wait 15 years to gain citizenship ". Well my husband is a hard-working, religious, and family-oriented person. If he could wait in line for 16 yrs to become a citizen, so could anyone else. It's not unreasonable to ask whatsoever!
pokerplayersgohome if you want something bad enough, it's never impossible to fulfill a dream. If the medical students in Ireland want to come to America so bad, maybe they can find someone to sponsor them. Where there is a will, there is way!
If they weren't doing anything wrong, they wouldn't be scared. Just as any criminal would be. GUILTY AS CHARGED...and...SEND'EM PACKING.....before We, the People do the job our government won't do!!!!!!!
Reform -- A message from the Messiah
Tear down your walls, like the ones you preach to others to tear down
Open the boarders, like the one's your invasion forces ignore
Abolish your social programs, creating your social discontent
Start producing the products you import, becoming productively independent & self-reliant
Start paying the Native Americans the back-rent you owe - with appologies
Stop buying things you can't afford
Stop terrorizing others
And quit being hypocrites!
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< yawn > Harley, no one is listening to ya! Except maybe the illegals. LOL
Our government spits in the face of every American who fought, bled, sacrificed and died for our nation, so BS like this would not happen!!!!! Washington should hang their heads in shame and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for treasonous actions. They sell their souls, our country and "their" countrymen so their pockets runneth over and the partying never stops. The enemy is not abroad, our own government plants them among us. Hopefully, when Americans rise up, the first place illegals will run to is Capitol Hill. Let those Ivory Tower cowards deal with the third world scum and see how they like it!!!!!
The problem with that devilswin is that there are American citizens in need of government intervention and being turned away because of the illegals draining the system. So who suffers for it? We do. Get rid of the illegals and there wont be any more drain on government services. Then the people who really need it, can get the help they need.
The question to our government officials should be "Why are our troops still in the Middle East? They should be at home watching our borders."
I want to bring up another point. Unemployment checks. The illegals who got a fake social security numbers are staying in Nevada because of the checks. When the checks stopped coming in months ago, many illegals started leaving the state. Then they started it up again, and those illegals that were contemplating on moving decided to stay and get another 4 months worth of freebies. I heard they were thinking of stopping the checks again. I wonder what the illegals will do now?
Nitro, what makes the unsettled specie so special? You want to stay in America, do it right. Go to immigration and tell them you want a green card. Demand it. Hey, this is America right? You don't want to do it the right way, then shut up. < not talking to you personally Nitro >
Hypothetical reasoning: Supposedly approximately 20 million+- illegals among us....our popularion just passed 300 million a year or so ago.....that means, 1 out of every 15 people in our country are criminal elements who don't belong here(legally)....imagine, you ownd a movie theater and 1 out of every 15 people snuck into your theater....would that upset you?..would you tolerate your profit margin being cut?..would you stop the source by making sure the exit doors were secure?....
Seems, We, the People, have worked hard and sacrificed much to create a beautiful world in which all law-abiding folk could enjoy, to raise a family, know the freedoms of America and live together in peace and harmony with the premise all would pitch in to keep it such the beautiful place. How dare illegals bully their way in as Washington holds the door open for them. The true terrorists are not only foreign, but they are also the ones in charge of running our country that we may be safe, sound and secure in our ways of life. I don't recall other countries gangs, drugs, weapons, illegals, thieves, frauds, murderers, rapists, criminals, undocumented and disease ridden scum being imported as part of the formula for a great nation built by great people, only to be undermined by American people-elected scoundrels who lost their main objectives to represent our best interests that they may feed us to the lions as they stay perched in their Ivory Towers and look down their noses at us as they pat one another on the back for the great job they do in destroying us.
It SHALL come back to nip them in the butts!!!
For, when the people lose faith in their government, the government shall stand alone!!!
Remember...it's We, the People who are THEIR bosses, not the other way around!!!!
Wow Nitro, then my husband is seriously getting underpaid. I better inform him of this when he gets home from work.
I wonder what would happen if all citizen refrained from voting in the election this coming November. Do you think Washington would hear us then?
Criminals SHOULD be on edge about getting caught!
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Nevada is now in a $6,000,000,000.00 (that's $6 BILLION) -- 2011 budget shortfall $3 BILLION - state + local pension shortfall $2 BILLION - Nevada owes Obama $1 BILLION for current borrowed state unemployment insurance payments. ---- Cuts ???? You ain't seen nothin' yet !!!! illegals , see what your fake social security numbers to get work has done? Not that you care.
nitro, I say we not vote this coming election and show our state officials we mean business. I am seriously considering it, but one person wont make a difference.
Lets give Mexico all the land we bought from them in the exchange (old Mexico). Then we can build a wall and within minutes of completing that wall they will be crawling over it, guaranteed(sp).
I wonder...how do we get El Presidente Obamasita on the November election ballots as an impeachment choice? For that matter, since he is most likely also an illegal posing as a citizen, maybe a deportation order checkbox from we Americans right next to it.
BTW....the prophets say that Armageddon starts with a highly praised and admired man in political office with "666" on his head somewhere....has anyone noticed the curls on the sides and back of his head?...Hmmmmm, I wonder!!!!!
Sorry for the outlandish ramblings...I'm just so ticked off, I tend to write like a madman to vent...hahahaha...at least they make sense, somewhat. If I go off topic, forgive me...I try to get 10 pounds of taters in a 5 pound sack, sometimes!!!! =)
Keep the logins to a minimum...hehehehe
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
DAMN THOSE WHO WOULD DO US HARM, FOREIGN AND/OR DOMESTIC!!!!
"I know they have intelligence, but there needs to be accountability in agencies. They can't just do things because they want to," Flores said."
They cant enforce the laws if they want to????
Wrap up all the beaners and send them back to mexico.
WearyKnight, I share your passion. What ticks me off is the way I was treated in my husband's country when I gave birth to our daughter. I didn't have to go to some third world country to give birth to her, but my husband wanted her to be a dual citizen. I had a horrible experience. I would never ever do it again ( my baby days are over thank God ). My daughter is a United States Citizen, has a U.S. passport, and also has a birth certificate from the U.S. Embassy. She is also a citizen of my husband's country. She has a country issued Identification card. When we travel to my husband's country, both my husband and I pay for a 3 month visa, and all my daughter has to show is her passport and ID card and she doesn't pay for a visa. My husband refuses to use his ID card to gain entrance into his own country for free. He'll gladly pay the $80 visa. He is now a proud United States Citizen. I am very passionate about the illegal immigration problem. It's very easy to come to this country and pop out anchor babies. It's not so easy for U.S. Citizens to do the same in other countries.
Remember this story on Nov. 2 when you go to vote. Then think about which candidate is in favor of giving illegals a "pathway to citizenship" and allowing them to keep the jobs they currently hold illegally.
Simple solution is for them to just return to the country they came from. Just go back to the life you came from. Take your kids with you we dont want them. Just go back.
Voting is a big joke, i'm planning a boycott on voting this election day!
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Hello again boftx...
I value your opinion. What do you think of loud mouth Miguel Flores? Isn't he a piece of work?
There are some good posts today.
I agree with you FedUpWithtThis. Who is there to vote for? Reid....."pathway to citizenship and let them come out of the shadows" or fruit cake Angle. We're staying home this year unless you want to add your name to the choices? You could win hands down.
Good posts by the way.
Thank you for your comments richa321, I also value your opinion on this issue. I am not voting for either candidate this year, it will be a no win situation no matter who I vote for. Thanks for the laugh < fruit cake Angle also known as twit & whack job >
What Americans are fed up with are the millions upon millions of people who come here illegally, do not want to assimilate or learn the language. People who send their earnings "home" to another country. People who are turning 2 bedroom apartments and single family homes into illegal camps housing up to 100. People who are stealing I.Ds and Social Security numbers from American taxpayers.
People who are turning entire neighborhoods and city sections into Tijuana's, where half the store signs advertise "llanteras usadas." People who are killing American citizens at the rate of 27 per day through murder, drunk driving, etc.
People who expect and demand their kids to be taught in Spanish, and don't care what we Americans think. People who since 2000 have desecrated our National border parks with 65+ million tons of trash and human watse.
People who drive illegally, have no auto insurance or set enough aside to cover their liabilities. People who use our expensive hospital emergency rooms as their cold and sniffle clinics. The real complaint here is that those "lazy Americans" who "follow the laws" find themselves increasingly squeezed and taxed, fingerprinted and regulated and licensed and strip-searched, while the illegals and their ilk thumb their noses, disregard our wishes, and give the finger to our laws.
Why is it dangerous that we can't discuss these things frankly in the open, without crippling euphemisms that disguise what this is really about?
Every 3 months, a population three times the size of Tallahassee, FL pours across our southern border. They are not "undocumented," or "immigrants." They are illegal aliens. Period.
In 1997, pres Zedillioo proclaimed "I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders." MALDEF founder Mario Obledo stated, "California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like it should leave. Every constitutional office in California is going to be held by Hispanics in the next 20 years." People who don't like such demographic changes "should go back to Europe." They see the US as lands they claim is theirs.
Why do American public officials (or many of it's naive liberal media) value so little what thousands have fought and died to protect?
A foreign power has stated its plans to conquer this nation by demographic warfare.
They call it Reconquista.
Why is the Hispanic/Latino agenda taking precedence over the future and direction of our country, and constantly being forced down our throats?
It's because the most dispicable, worthless, obnoxious, immoral, indignant, corrupt, greedy, wreckless, parasitic, and underlying ideologically maligned country and it's people insist we do so for their benefit alone...
Could be that your husband originates from the same country as I do. Mine is across the big pond and I arrived via TWA with green card, passport and visa in hand. Not like a thief in the night through the Rio Grande.
I'm also patriotic and get boiling mad when I see illegals desecrating the american flag.
As to Harry Reid...what shadows is he talking about? At Home Depot or Walmart?
fretswart, I am really impressed. Not many people can write an article as impressive as you do. This is a great informative post and 100% true.
It would be interesting to hear what your take is on dealing with and solving the problem of illegal aliens. The Arizona law doesn't go far enough.
Please read "The Ozark Sentinel" article, dated May 13, 2010, written by Missouri State Representative Nita Jane Ayres "Missouri Way Ahead of the Game in Dealing with Illegal Immigration". It's a big step in the right direction. Good for Missouri.
Utah is also thinking about a similar law. Well not similar, just a watered down version of it. It's kind of like washing your feet with your socks on. It's just a waste of water.
fretswart I also congratulate you on an article well written. Bravo!
richka321, I'll give you a hint, my husbands country is the only country in the world which has two continents.
I think back to the 50's and how racially divided neighborhoods back East were. Jews over here,Catholics over there,poles here,blacks there, latinos (all groups) way over there.We had for the first time a older man and his 5 children move into a house two houses down from us.Whispers were he was Puerto Rican.I was 12 or so and I thought the neighborhood would turn upside down.Mr. Ramos in his broken english would talk about how hard he worked to be able to bring his family to the USA.He was so grateful for all the opportunities this country allowed him.He waited and waited to get into the USA and so he did.I remember watching him sitting in the beach chair reading books in english,pointing to words he didn't understand.He studied hard to make sure he would not have any problems when it came time for the test to become a citizen.The year came for his exam and passed. Walking down the street to his house,family and friends watching his "pride" all over his face.I'll never forget the look on his face and his watery eyes as he said to everyone...Nothing could be better in my life today.I have my family and I am an American.
There was a sense of pride to come here.You waited and came in "the front door".You worked hard to learn English and assimilate into this country, not live here for decades and still not be able to understand a "Single" word. I resent anyone telling me I need to learn spanish.English "is" and will always be the Language Americans speak.We have no choice but to come down hard on all the illegals.
They are not illegal aliens.........they are INVADERS!
boo - freaking - hoo.
LEGAL immigrants should be happy there is a new crackdown on ILLEGAL immigrants.
FedUpWithThis
In school that was our second language. I was fluent in it. One letter in their alphabet is very hard to say. Maybe now you can figure out what my home country is?
Election year! Nothing more than a SHOW till November than no more raids or deports! Just an Obama smoke and mirror tactic. We all see thru the fog of lies and deception!
Don't you love the head line in this story?
"Local hispanic community on edge after immigration raids". That's definitely a misprint.
I'm sure they meant to say "Local illegal hispanic community on edge after immigration raids". Why would legal immigrants or citizens be on edge? More rhetoric for the likes of Miguel and company.
Obama is the Great Illegal lover! He will get them legalized by vote or pardon via Exe. order.
Best get used to the Spanish! LOL
It'll be a cold day in hell before I learn and speak their language.
I stay in contact with friends in many states. The feeling is the same everywhere. Get rid of the illegals. I have also heard that a civil uprising is coming. Even Obama will have some big problems pushing any kind of amnesty through.
The other side of the aisle will make sure of that.
You people against illegal immigration are missing out on the big picture -
those lawns aren't going to mow themselves
Babyboomer, I hate to be the tiding of bad news, but Puerto Rico became a U.S. state in the 1800's, look it up. The poor neighbor of yours was discriminated because he was Puerto Rican not because he was an illegal invader.
I have to speak frankly.
I am really, really saddened by what the creepy Republicans in Arizona have set in motion.
Because of their efforts to dehumanize, race bait and make ALL illegal immigrants into armed felons, somehow this ideology has been magically transferred to Las Vegas and Nevada.
This is far from the truth.
From all indications seen, ICE was targetting people not solely based upon race and their immigration status, but because of criminal behavior.
Because of the idiots in Arizona, and ultimately the Republican Party nationally, along with the idiotic Fox PORNO (Political Organization-Republican News Only) News agenda, there is this incredible fear mongering. And this has suddenly been transferred to local and federal law enforcement efforts in southern Nevada.
I am so, so tired of people who are painting a totally false picture in order to use it for party politics.
You and I all know that if President Obama and his administration were to tackle a complex problem like immigration right now, the RepubliCANNOT,NO,CAN'TDOIT,CANNOT,NO Party will do anything and everything in their power to screw it up, block it, throw monkey wrenches in the gears, ANYTHING...just they want him to fail. There is no denying this has been their sole goal since President Obama has taken office.
And they should be ashamed of themselves in pursuing this agenda that was set forth by creepy Republicans in Arizona.
Arizona Republicans even went to lengths to paint out murals on the sides of schools to eradicate Hispanic features of school children painted on the sides of them.
One county in Arizona has a Sheriff that goes out of his way to throw out illegal immigrants. To the point of ignoring other crimes. And out of the whole of Arizona, HIS is the only county that shows an increase in crime by illegals. That shows his total and utter racial bias. Why they put up with this idiot defies credibility.
And lastly, creepy Senators in Arizona want the 14th Amendment changed. An amendment that was created by Republicans as a result of the Civil War! Now they want to change. It's crap.
I'm so tired of this idiotic political parisianship. And it's all created by the Republicans to scare people.
Knock it off!
You aren't in power anymore. Because you screwed it up before. And, if you get back into power, you'll screw it up more.
Quit scaring people.
I believe the Beatles were Mexicans singing songs like " Strawberry Fields Forever"
richka321 I believe I know where your from. Is the letter your referring to the soft g? Your country also begin with the same letter?
Burrittobandit2 hope they were smoking them funny looking green ciggies while they were singing that song. :)
Smart lady. In our country it starts with a "D".
I just wonder when is either this reporter or any reporter have a story of the actual illegals that are constantly breaking the laws. robbing cars, battery, hit and runs. driving without insurance, having free medical. yup I guess you CAN say they are looking to get a better life. At our expense. If they were to learn english so when us citizens go to the supermarket it would be in the tongue of the land and not spanish. and stop committing crimes, filling up our prisons and jails. then they should get a chance.
The most illegal immigrants in The USA are of Mexican origin.
The problem is not that they come here to work, its that they work under the table, paying no taxes, yet using health care and educational services,
once they have a baby in the USA the baby is a citizen and they have the " right" to stay but seldom apply for citizenship and therefore put a burden on
the economy. there are millions of them in the US today, all of them using services but not paying taxes to support the services they use.
The Mexican Conquest of America
http://www.rense.com/general44/conq.htm
http://thelastgringo.com/wordpress/categ...
http://www.usillegalaliens.com/
The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was the peace treaty that ended the Mexican-American War (1846--1848). The treaty provided for the Mexican Cession, in which Mexico ceded 1.36 million km2 (525,000 square miles) to the United States in exchange for USD$15 million.
The United States also agreed to take over $3.25 million in debts Mexico owed to American citizens.
The cession included parts of the modern-day U.S. states of Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, and Wyoming, as well as the whole of California, Nevada, and Utah. The remaining parts of what are today the states of Arizona and New Mexico were later ceded under the 1853 Gadsden Purchase.
Source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_G... Hidalgo
FedUpWithIt
It's time to see what Fox has to say tonight. I'm sure it will be politically correct.
Talk to you tomorrow. Maybe some day we could meet?
richka321,
My own opinion is tht we need to remove or reduce the incentives to enter illegally by removing jobs and services for illegal immigrants.
I am touched by the plight of the children who are brought here by parents who then grow up and are penalized for something they had no control over.
But bottom line, our government simply must put citizens first.
ColinFromLasVegas: I totally disagree with you. What is wrong with the Gov. of AZ protecting that State, she is doing what she is supposed to do, The Sheriff Joe Arpio he's doing his job. Let me show you who is not doing his Job: -Senator Harry Reid vote on Illegal Immigration:Voted NO on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
Voted NO on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006)Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government. (Jun 2007)Voted YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities". (Mar 2008)
Voted YES on Bush Administration Energy Policy. (Jul 2003)
Voted NO on requiring full Senate debate and vote on cap-and-trade. (Apr 2009)
Voted NO on protecting middle-income taxpayers from a national energy tax. (Apr 2009)
Voted YES on Congressional pay raise. (Jul 2009)
Voted NO on requiring photo ID to vote in federal elections. (Jul 2007)
Voted YES on allowing some lobbyist gifts to Congress. (Mar 2006)
Voted NO on establishing the Senate Office of Public Integrity. (Mar 2006)
Voted NO on banning more types of Congressional gifts. (Jul 1995)
Reject photo ID requirements for voting. (Sep 2005)
Voted NO on more penalties for gun & drug violations. (May 1999)
Voted YES on maintaining current law: guns sold without trigger locks. (Jul 1998)
Voted NO on allowing tribal Indians to opt out of federal healthcare. (Feb 2008)
Voted YES on blocking medical savings acounts. (Apr 1996)
Voted YES on comprehensive immigration reform. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on eliminating the "Y" nonimmigrant guestworker program. (May 2007)
How can you continue to blaim the Republicans for things that Your Senator have not done, he have voted NOT to protect American lives, he cares more for the hispanic vote, because he thinks that he already got most of you Demos, who are not looking at his record on illegal immigration. We live in the real World, not the one that you Obama, and Reid have conjuarde up.
ICE is stepping it up and taking some action, because they know there is a wave a illegal immigrants currently coming to Nevada from Arizona (before the school year starts). Hopefully, there will be a lot more of these sweeps in Las Vegas, so we at least send the message that we do take some kind of action.
blackguy2004, if there a legal matters to discuss about concessions, or land, should'n the government be taking care of that issue, The Atzland croud, the Mecha, and LaRaza group say the same thing, I am teaching my Children the truth. There are ignorant people out there who are taught that the SW States belong to them, that is why some of them have a sense of ownership, what is sad is that Blacks are telling other ignorant Blacks the same thing.I am sick of hearing about some Treaty, what does that have to do with the illegal immigration invasion? From one Blackguy to another- Looking forward to hearing from you.
I have to point out to you, pmontg53, that Senator Reid votes yes and no on things. As you kindly pointed out.
In the past two years, the Republican Party votes only three ways:
(1) No,
(2) No,
and lastly,
(3) No.
They only want the complete and utter destruction of President Obama and his entire administration. And they have even admitted to this ulterior purpose. And they are committed to it like a horse with blinders.
So, even though this administration is doing as much if not more than the previous administration did about illegal administration, that is not enough for the Republican Party.
If this is brought before the House and/or the Senate, no matter how reasonable and rational the bill is, the Republicans will vote NO.
The entire Republican Party backs the creepy Republicans in Arizona because it fits their political agenda. They don't want this solved. They just want it to meet a political agenda.
Because that is all this idiotic Republican Party does.
But you kindly pointed out that Senator Reid does have a brain and votes according to his constituents.
HE DON'T VOTE NO ALL THE TIME!
This is, in fact, a testament to his complete professionalism, dedication and service to the voters of Nevada. Thanks for pointing that out.
I take it Colin is a BIG fan of Fox News. He keeps repeating the name over and over.
@pmontg53,
I totally agree with what you are saying, but you missed the MOST important
Reid vote of all time. He voted Yea for the Banker Bailout back in '07. What a traitor. Truly a traitor he is.
I leave you with a quote from Thomas Jefferson:
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks (The Federal Reserve is a 100% private bank as well as the IRS - it too is a private corporation) to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
Americans!
no in house fighting!
it's a time in our lifes and country when we need to stick together. as soon as we starting fighting amongst ourselves it gives them power over us. (that's what they want)
@ nitro,
A very interesting site you posted. I am not aware of this. I will investigate the claims and verify through my own independent research. Thanks.
Glad to see that others are awake, brother. We have been deceived all these years. The US is a corporation and the 14th amendment deceptively enslaved us into contract law via voluntary servitude. I assume you know what I'm talking about?
nitro,
Very, VERY few Americans today know what Jefferson said, let alone the meaning of his words.
Round them all up and send them to the east coast, drop in New York, Boston, D.C. liberal leftist elitist love "undocumented" workers so much, let them support them.
@Pragmatist:
You claimed to be the great "know-all-about-Latinos" and good at speaking Spanish. Please prove it to the readers, because imho you seem to be one of the geek guys passing too much time in front of your mirror and for the rest of the day you are trying to make yourself someone better by looking down on other people who are doing most of the daily work. And...
BOO - HOO, I must admit to be an INTRUDER, because, my tourist visa expired six months ago,
and...
BOO - HOOOOOOOO, I became an illegal INVADER,
because I loved staying in Vegas that much while blowing the family nest egg, until I had no money down, so,...
BOO - HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, BOO - HOO, BOOO...
I've spent it all, and I still love to be and to stay in Vegas, but cannot find a job as an ILLEGAL ALIEN, I have become due to my expired tourist visa, now, BOO - HOO, BOO - HOO,
what can I do?
If I leave the country on my not-yet-expired flight ticket back home, they won't let me get back to Vegas for decades, because of my self-caused visa issue. BOO - HOO, BOOOOOOOOO ...
Good-bye, Las Vegas, see you back in twenty years then, BOO - HOO, if I still can make it then...
BOO - HOO, HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... It's no fun being an illegal alien.... BOO - HOO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqjfmUytF...
(The Banana_Joe has just got on board of his "never-come-back" airlines and managed to catch his last flight home.)
Farewell good-bye, Vegas, BOO - HOO,
I hope all the haters here will draw the most possible advantage on the ILLEGAL ALIEN subject to win the election, and to never let me get back to Vegas, BOO - HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, never let me enter the country I love much more than any other country, BOO - HOO.
Sorry, nitro, here's my last post from "never-come-back" airlines:
I am just a simple tourist, who never implemented/never will implement anything, since I am no politician.
Due to my expired tourist visa, I became an ILLEGAL ALIEN, who will probabely never again enter the US, at least not for the next decades.
But thanks for the warm, enchanting welcome and the lovely good-bye, I will never forget you, folks.
From now on, you have to sell all the fresh banana on your streets yourself, all the fresh banana, Sharron Angle needs to have fun with herself in her little camaign tour bus. BOO - HOO.
c.u. when I c.u.
(sms posted by Verizon.com)
< handing Banana_Joe a hankie > you poor thing < patting on the shoulder > Don't cry too hard there buddy. Next time, watch out for that banana peel.
Harry Reid does not want to use the E-verify to weed out the illegals from the hotels and casinos giving back jobs to American citizens.
Vote him out and fine these hotels/casinos that hire these illegals $10,000 per person. That won't do that anymore and no more fraud.
MGM/Mirage quit hiring them, most of them don't even speak english.
We the people need to take our own country back by voting OUT those who do not do as WE want them to do!
No matter who we vote for this coming election we are doomed! I say we should boycott voting this election day. Maybe then these politicians will wake up and smell the coffee that we mean business!!!
richka321 " Maybe some day we could meet? "...God willing, someday. :)
I'm sure Brian Sandogibbons is glad that his kids don't look Hispanic. Uh, yeah.
All of these comments,and the most important theme to this whole fiasco is The Illegals Know Nothing Will Be Done About Them Being Here Illegally,PERIOD
end of story
As long as America keeps catering to these parasites,the so called movement will remain
end of story
nada
no more to story
finito
peace out
@richla321 and FedUpWithThis, thanks, I covered that 8/6 at 2:27pm/12:00pm/11:34am/10:59am.
This is the result of the inmates running the asylum, because the US doesn't want the racist label. Just political cowardess run amuck. It's like calling illegal aliens "undocumented," which is like saying that bank robbers are "informal withdrawal agents."
The fiscal consequences of the next amnesty will be a staggering $290 billion a year.
Mexico's population is still growing faster than its economy can supply jobs, and its recent free-market evolution has died. As a result, more than a million Mexicans illegally cross into the US each year.
Mexico wants a labor safety valve and closer integration with the US as evidenced by its promotion of all things beginning with the word "comprehensive."
Pursuing US immigration reform had become the centerpiece of Mexico's foreign policy, while maintaining their immigration laws, which are the toughest on the continent.
Congress is looking to repeal the 14th Amendment and therefore deny citizenship to children born in the US to illegal aliens.
The Citizenship Clause provides a broad definition of citizenship that overruled the decision in Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857), which held that blacks could not be citizens of the US. The Supreme Court also held that Native Americans who quit their tribes did not automatically gain citizenship.
Loss of citizenship is possible under the following circumstance:
Fraud in the naturalization process, which illegals are engaged. Technically, this is a voiding of purported naturalization and declaration that the illegal alien never was, and legally is not a US citizen.
Next, there must be proof of citizenship at the voting booth to remedy the massive fraud committed by illegal aliens.
I have absolutely no sympathy for those who come here illegally, have taken advantage of our social programs that were designed to help Americans, have overloaded our schools, hospitals, and filled jails. Those who stand in defense of criminals should accompany them back and assist them in their own country.
Boycott cities that support amnesty. Support Arizona and the other states that enforce the laws of this country.
The only reform we need is to protect the citizens of this country...
The I want to come here illegally have my kids here and reap the benefits of free school,health care and numerous other handouts at the taxpayer expense gravy train is OVER!. If you come here lagally and want to be an American and abide by our laws I applaude you. The rest of you criminals GO HOME!.
ColinFromLasVegas: Your response to my points about Harry Reid's voting record on illegal immigration is to say the Republican Party is a party of NO! What did the Republican Party have to do with the way he voted on this issue? Please answer that. why would Reid Vote (NO); on English being the National language? Why would he vote (NO), on securing our borders? American Citizens are dying daily along the border with Mexico, and all you can think of is how the Republican Party is trying to derail the Obama administration. American Citizens are terrorized in our Border Towns, and you can sit at your home in Las Vegas complaining about a Governor, and Sheriff who are trying to protect its citizens, You have no compassion for the farmer who was killed by illegal aliens, who was storing drugs on his farm, and when he informed ICE where the drugs were, the illegal's set him up, pretending to want water, as he gave one a drink of water; he was shot. I don't think the Republican Party is a party of no, if someone was forcing themselves on another person, does that person suppose to say (YES)? The Obama administration, and Harry Reid are not listening to the American People, we say NO to illegal immigration, You, Obama, and Reid say Yes, The American People say NO to Obama Health Care, and Socialism, you, Reid, and Obams say YES, Harry Reid say YES to OPEN borders we say NO. Question, would you leave the doors your house open at night; with the lights on? I hope that's a NO. Well that's what Harry Reid is expecting Arizona to do with open borders. In your Speech about the Republican Party not doing anything right, you totally side stepped your Senators record, and position on illegal immigration.
We will DEPORT YOUR ILLEGAL CHILDREN now and forever more.
Like Arizona we need to take a stand against this issue. You can make a difference.
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/action...
ON edge?
Those here legally have nothing to fear.
If not, they do.
There are more humanitarian causes to spend tax dollars on than to give funding to people that are here illegally and breaking the law. How about foster children, state hospitals, low income families that need more nutritious food, higher education for our own people...
Ok so I found out that ICE is going to start doing daily raids in Las Vegas. Finally! This is the best news I have heard in years. As these leeches crawl back across the border more jobs will open for Citizens. Those with out jobs and in need of social services will actually have a chance at getting them with the illegals being sent back the lines will be shorter. School class rooms can go back to educating in English and not have to cater to the demands of the illegals. Prices will go down for products do to the fact that business no longer have to have a extra person around that speaks Spanish or print everything twice once in English and then again in Spanish (even though most of em cant read that language either) . No more gangs and drugs being pushed on our streets. No more hit and run by unlicensed, uninsured Tijuana drivers. No more hospital emergency rooms filled with illegals want free medical care for a sniffle or a nose bleed. We will actually be able to receive emergency service in the emergency room. Oh what a great Las Vegas we could have without these the border jumpers invading our country.
LasVegas2009, along with what you have said, UMC has declared that they are no longer accepting illegal's with no health insurance into their hospital. That means no more FREE health care for them. UMC Quick care is included. Now where will they go if they get sick or are in need of hospital care?
FedUpWithThis: They could do like the rest of us an buy a bottle of asprin and a box of bandaids at the dollar store. But I doubt they will these illegals are willing to wait in line 4-5 hours for free tax payer asprin and bandaids. I say just cash up front or no services for these illegals. They will just have to ship less cash back to Mexico that week. Have you noticed all the business that have sprouted up to transfer money to Mexico lately? Billions of untaxed under the counter dollars leaving this country daily.
Good morning Fedup
UMC as well as other health care facilities are NOT ALLOWED to even ask about legal/illegal status. The same holds true for schools.
Did you figure out what my country of origin is?
These raids are long overdue,and I hope it's just the start.
Nebraska just passed a tough immigration law that that would prohibit businesses and landlords from hiring or renting to illegal immigrants.
The state of Nebraska did a tax study that took into account the payroll taxes paid by an illegal family of 4 vs the tax burden they placed on the state and it resulted in a tax deficeit of 18k per year.And thats one family of 4.
Add to that a disproportionate share of crimes commited by illegals,the inevitable "dumbing down"of schools that takes place when 1/3 or more of the student body speaks limited or no english,and you've got one hell of a problem that needs to be tackled in states across the nation.
Remember,they're not doing "the jobs Americans won't do" anymore.They're doing everything,for less,because they're willing to live 2,3,4 families to a house,degrading neighborhoods and lowering property values and wages.
Churches that aid and abet invaders are committing felonies, yet the corrupt ObaMao regime does nothing. The guilty thumpers should be arrested and jailed. Same goes for radical trash like the despicable Nancy Pelosi. That treasonous bag of botox is recruiting preachers to bus another intolerable amnesty scam. To wit......
http://is.gd/e7Ohe
fretsward
Some people just don't believe anything until they can see it for themselves. That's the only reason for posting information on the actual article from the Ozark Sentinel.
Some posters just write one-liners and just skip over reading important information.
Your posts are well written and very much appreciated.
Why would a U.S Senator Harry Reid vote against English being the National Language? Is he not proud enough to be considered an American? Why have Jon Rolston not questioned, or blowed Reids voting Record up in lights,Why? because "Jon Rolston is a chicken head for Harry".Look at the problem of having to print everything in Spanish, and English,or press 1 for English,or Press2 for Spanish; Look in the News paper under Jobs, and when there are jobs, many require U.S Citizens to be Bi-Lingual, that type of discrimination is not even being talked about on Jon Rolston's face to face.You Harry Reid Supporters you should really consider what he is saying. I was contracted to do a job yesterday, the warehouse where I was sent to pick up material was ran by all Hispanics, the laborers in the ware house were, none speaking English Speakers, when I went to the Job site, 8 out of 10 workers were Hispanic, and only 2 claimed to be able to speak English, bottom line, these were not the kind of jobs that Bush said, " were NOT the kind of Jobs Americans want do". American workers are being replaced by foreign illegal alien invaders, Thanks a lot Senator Reid.
get out of town if you don't have your papers.
just get lost.
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Demand that your representative propose legislation that makes trespassing into our country A FELONY...thereby making it impossible for ANY illegal alien to apply for amnesty, or citizenship, at any future point.
Demand that any entitlements - free housing, food stamps, medical, energy - be ENDED for illegal aliens.
Demand that employers be fined 10K and make it a FELONY TO HIRE ILLEGALS.
Demand that ICE enforce our federal laws.
Arrest any person or organization that "aids and abets" illegal aliens - a felony conviction.
Demand that all law enforcement be able to arrest, detain, and deport illegals.
It is past time for illegals to self-deport.
THIS JUST IN...
AMERICANS on EDGE over MILLIONS and MILLIONS of
ILLEGAL MEXICANS in the U.S.
Date line Las Vegas, NV. Local law abiding citizens are fed up with the Hispanic community complaining about being targeted by Federal law enforcement. Locals say if your not here illegally then you have nothing to worry about.
But if you are here illegally then you are going to get arrested and deported. DEAL WITH IT!!!
richka321 Thank you.
The reasons for this pervasive ignorance of the Mexican invasion is the pretense. Politicians have been PC and pander to Hispanics to characterize our third world neighbor as an important developing nation (at our expense), and ultimately, a US ally. Wink. Laugh.
New presidents meet, pledge to commit all resources to assist whatever matter is politically appropriate at the moment, and go home announcing a new day has arrived in US-Mexican relations. Wink. Laugh. This ongoing scam, having been accomplished, the little Mexican leader implies in his national report of the meeting that he successfully went chest-to-chest (more like chest-to-navel) with the American president and made clear the needs and desires of his parasitic country's agenda.
The very next day, Mexico continues its traditions, where the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and the drug-financed economy, and remittances from the hordes of truant illegal aliens and their anchor babies becomes even more criminalized. Calderon added his expected Univision line that Mexico's problems with crime and violence are due to the American market for illicit drugs. It's the typical Mexican blame-shifting.
To the contrary, the job of bringing peace and prosperity to the northern provinces is far beyond the capability of the Mexican government.
Those who control Mexico City always find a way of blaming the Americans.
Mexican president Porfirio Diaz famously lamented more than a century ago, "Poor Mexico, so far from God and so close to the United States."
This ignorance is as fresh in the Mexican mindset today as it was back then - and always will be if we allow it to continue.
It explains nothing and everything simutaneously.
richka321 UMC said that they don't care about the discrimination law, they have lost too much money on the illegal population who wont pay.
Are you from Armenia? There are a few countries with my husbands language as the second language. Could also be Greece, which is what I was thinking as well. Bulgaria is another choice too. Am I right about any of the three I have mentioned?
Three children were playing in the parking lot of the Chastain Apartments in Sandy Springs early Monday evening when a red car with a wobbly wheel drove through. Jordin Paulder, a 9-year-old boy with chubby cheeks, called out to the car's passengers to tell them of the bad tire.
Jordin didn't mean to insult anybody, he just thought they should know, witnesses told police. But the car stopped.
A man got out and slammed an ax into Jordin's face. Emergency workers were afraid to remove the
the ax during the helicopter flight to Children's Healthcare of Atlanta at Scottish Rite hospital, where Jordin died.
The killer was Benigno Cabrera Borjas, an illegal alien. When the police approached the crime scene, Cabrera Borjas fled to a nearby apartment complex.
He broke an officer's arm by throwing a tire iron and made threats with an iron pipe. Police eventually shot and killed him.
This is the side of illegal immigration that the 4th Estate wants to sweep under the rug. There are far too many stories like this one to hide. American citizens are being killed at the rate of 12,000 per year at the hands of illegal aliens through drunk-driving, murder, etc.
The American male is restrained, although livid to the point of no return.
He waits impatiently for the bell to ring.
There will be no remorse when facing the invader.
Americans have memories like elephants...
The Violent Crimes Institute reports that between 1999 and 2006, there were over 1,000,000 sex crimes committed in the US by illegal aliens. Yes, 1 million sex crimes. Recently, they've kept the numbers away from Americans for fear of massive backlash.
Why does child molestation seem to be prevalent among illegal aliens from Mexico?
The answer lies within the age-old Mexican culture of "machismo," as well as within the actual laws of that country. The crime of rape or child molestation is incredibly under-reported in Mexico, because there is so much shame placed upon the victim.
The crime of kidnapping a woman for the purpose of rape and marriage against their will, or "rapto" as it is known in Mexico is actually a minor crime and rarely ever prosecuted.
A Mexican legislator actually called the practice "romantic."
Romantic? And these are the people who deserve a pathway to citizenship (littered with millions of tons of trash, and rape trees on our border)? While rape is a serious crime in the US, many Mexicans cannot understand why they are prosecuted for it.
Often, a small payment of $10 to $20 to the victim s family will settle the matter in Mexico.
The most troubling and telling reason behind the growing epidemic of child molestation at the hands of Mexican illegal aliens, is the fact the age of sexual consent throughout the majority of Mexico is 12 years of age.
If this alone is not enough to stop 1 million illegal aliens from entering the US every year, I'll ask you what is?
fretsward this government ought to be ashamed of themselves for permitting this as long as they have. If they refuse a change, then it's up to us, just like Arizona to join in the fight. We must stand up and make a difference.
Do not vote in Reid this election. He is for illegal immigration.
http://www.numbersusa.com/
Fedup
No, I am not from any of those countries. Another clue for you. In english the country starts with "G", in my home language it starts with "D". Another clue is that it was MANDATORY for us to learn that language. Think north of the countries you named. This is really fun.
I'll bet that fretsward has figured it out. Right?
@nitro
You may want to continue the disdain and characterize the US as racist against you. Complain of language, cultural barriers that have disparate impact.
Demand we communicate in a way that conveys in a manner that is understood by diverse people like youself who cannot and will not speak English.
Require hiring bilingual staff for translating all written and verbal information in your language. Request demands that we cultivate cultural competence, to effectively communicate with you, as to not hurt your feelings.
And continue to justify illegal immigration for the sole purpose of racial identity and loyalty to the country in where they come from...
Fedup
I think that UMC is just giving someone lip service.
I recenly spent 5 days in that hospital, 17 hours in ER and was "lucky" to get a mexican room mate. She was 20 years old and had 5 kids. At that time she was in for kidney failure and receiving dialysis compliments of Medicaid.
Sharing a room with this woman was a nightmare. Starting at 8:00 am our room filled up with her visitors. At times there were 9 people, including all 5 kids, in the room. Even after I spoke to a nurse about the chaos in that room, nothing was done about it. She also blared her mexican TV station until way past midnight. Again, nothing was done about it.
Now back to the original post. Not even you and I are allowed to ask an illegals that question. If they file a complaint against us, guess who wins.
Wow richka321, Germany! I should have guessed at first. Where is my head? LoL :)
So sorry about the service you received at UMC. I had be admitted there ages ago for back surgery. Was the worst time of my life! So I can definitely sympathize. I sent you a private message, please look for it.
@FedUpWithThis
Yes, I concur. Americans eyes are finally open. The Tea Parties, and like-mided organizations will make certain taxpayers will not be ignored ever again. Harry Reid recently stated there were no illegal aliens working construction in Nevada. I nearly fell off my chair on that one.
But look to what the voters have as an alternative. We should thank the fatally flawed liberal mindset, the 4th Estate, Eric Holder, ACLU, CAIR, SPLC, NCLR, LULAC, countless others, the slew of anchor baby America haters, Mexico - not only for its tsunami of law-abiding citizens, but allowing Hezbollah to set up shop along the border deemed secure by the cozen award winning DHS Sec, and a self-compurgator, yet extremely judicious President.
The mindset is identical. The ACLUs executive director, Anthony Romero, is touted as the 1st openly gay Latino to serve as such.
He established the John Adams Project a joint effort with The National Association of Criminal Defense Ambulance Chasers, excuse me Lawyers (Guantanamo detainee defense), his landmark lawsuit challenging Arizona law.
We've all seen the decisions by the activist judge Bolton. Could we have guessed? It's all about La Raza and pretense to justice and civil liberties at the expense of America's future as a nation.
Romero is a prime example of the fraud of our 14th Amendment (anchor babies who have no loyalty to this country, but to La Raza first). They will do their part to make certain the United States of America is reduced to the third world in which their mindset remains.
But they are in for an extremely rude awakening...
fretsward no illegals working construction? Is that man serious? I for one know better. Does Harry Reid really think we are ignorant? Geeze?
This election is going to be where the rude awakening is fretsward. Won't it be interesting to see what the end result will be?
Sad to see a lot of MISINFORMED, IGNORANT, BIGOTS and RACISTS comments that do nothing to help solve thougfully the economic and financial problems of this Nation-caused by WALL STREETS GREED. Its misguided and wrong to BLAME the inmigrants for all of these problems!!!
Lets not forget that Natives and Mexicans have habited this lands per millenia. And that the very land that you are steping onto... belonged first to the Native tribes and then to Mexico!!
Therefore, racist, bigots and anybody who does't like Latino inmigrants...lick it!!!
@richka321
I believe you were speaking of a country that was part of 2 continents in an earlier post.
If I can remember correctly, they were called transcontinental states. Like Russia, which has it's capital city in Europe, though most of it's territory is in Asia. The border between Africa and Asia, goes along the Isthmus of Suez and the Suez Canal (Egypt). The border continues through the Gulf of Suez, Red Sea and Gulf of Aden.
Two are transcontinental: Ismailia Governorate is nearly equally divided by the Suez Canal, and Suez Governorate.
Azerbaijan - Eastern Europe and Western Asia.
Georgia - Eastern Europe and Western Asia.
Kazakhstan - Central Asia and Eastern Europe.
Russia - Northern Asia and Eastern Europe.
Turkey - Western Asia and Eastern Europe.
Armenia - Western Asia.
Iceland - located on the line splitting the Northern Atlantic Ocean between the North American plate and the Eurasian plate.
Greenland - territory of Denmark, fully located on the North American plate.
Panama Province and Colon Province - both transcontinental, with Colon equally divided between both Americas and Panama Province unequally divided.
I could go on, but I digress. There are many examples.
I just hope I was in the correct thread.
Fedup...Mystery solved! Now you know which part of that country I grew up in. Any other posts that have private information?
eb, how many pesos is President Caldaron willing to give back the United States for their land & his illegal people? Do you think he has enough pesos? Maybe he will accept tacos and tamales instead?
eb: If that is all you have to contribute, is Nothing. You still did not explain why people have the right to violate U.S laws. it's not a matter of liking,or not liking someone, it's a matter of right and wrong, illegal immigration is wrong.Period
@FedUpWithThis
Yes, he does quite frankly. They all do. They are under the impression that we are like-minded as those who are making justification for illegal immigration in this thread.
Thier traducement is a result of the phylum blinded by race.
To them, it does not matter if one has a criminal past, is a child molester, rapist, murderer, or a person who has abandoned his family in Mexico, and has started a new one here in the US (yes, I speak to the women who are affected by this trend).
As long as they are La Raza, nothing else matters. The elections and coming demonstrations will let them know where the American people stand. Copulative asyndeton has come from the side that actually has the temerity to debate although they are not citizens.
They do not want it to revert to the last step - which is violence. And as you know, people are ready to take matters into their own hands.
They are not prepared for a war of this magnitude - and neither are the illegal aliens and their supporters.
richka321, I sent one post to you that was private only because I didn't want certain gringos knowing that very private information. We wouldn't want a swarm of gringos in certain said place now, would we?
So true, and so sad fretsward...
" To them, it does not matter if one has a criminal past, is a child molester, rapist, murderer, or a person who has abandoned his family in Mexico, and has started a new one here in the US (yes, I speak to the women who are affected by this trend). "
That is why we need to stand up and fight like Arizona has. We can make a difference.
***Local Hispanic community on edge after immigration raids***
Aw Shucks, it aint a big deal.
Unlike FDR, Obama wont be ordering the feds to uproot families from their homes, confiscate their businesses and property, and bus/train them to camps situated inland.
Uncle Sam has tempered his ways in the last 60+ years and there should be no fear of any heavy-handedness.
@eb
Objection. Manifesting, expressing contempt, disdain, scorn, insolence emanates from a lack of historical research. Mexico is the supreme source of illegal immigration to this country if you haven't noticed. Racist? No. I'd say I'm sagacious.
Mexico achieved independence in 1821, what's now Tucson was part of it. In the Mex-American War (1847), the U.S. occupied Mexico City, forced Mexico to give up northern territories. Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (1848) specified $15 million be paid to Mexico. Arizona was recognized by presidential proclamation on February 12, 1862. This is the first official use of the name. All of central and northern Arizona was empty. At the time of Arizona's acquisition, fewer than 90 Hispanics were there.
Native Americans inhabited the lands now the US, and still do. I can attest to this. Mexicans inhabited land that is now Mexico. They can barely make the trip today. How do you think they made the trip back then, especially with the guantlet of Native Americans who would attack them?
Promnesia comes in 3 forms: Deja vu "already seen." Deja entendu "already heard," and deja lu "already read." This is akin to a grab-all under the guise of political correctness, human rights, blame shifting, sedition, treason, subterfuge, we do the work for you, and the crooked finger scanning the horizon for dissenters to call racist. Whites are not exclusive to this fight.
Truth decay requires a medical professional. To suggest otherwise is circadian at best.
fretsward.... No, Fed-ups husband comes from that country that spans 2 continents. I lived and escaped from the former East Germany (DDR). We were occupied by the Soviet Union. Therefore the mandatory russian language in schools. I escaped from there when I was 16 years old.
I just read on the Phoenix ABC 15 site that a group of people, led by Chris Fleischman, has set up camps in the Arizona desert to assist illegals with water, food and medical services and even pick up the trash left in the desert by illegals. They do not report these illegals to ICE. They call it humanitarian aid. I would classify their actions as aiding and abetting illegals. Let's hear your comments.
RTK540
Well, at least we have something in common. I love Miguel Flores as much as you do.
Fedup sounds like a very nice person. My husband and I would probably be good friends with her and her husband.
As far as your language goes, your mother should wash your mouth out with soap. If you were my kid and used this language in front of me, I would slap you right in your mouth.
RTK540 Did we hit a nerve? No need for the cursing you know. That was uncalled for.
Thank you for your kind words richka321. RTK540 could learn a few things.
richka321 I am about to send you a private message again.
Americans have witnessed the illegal alien invasion on a daily basis. It's getting worse than the previous week.
We bear the attempt at justification, we are usually the blame, are racists for wanting this menace stopped.
We are tired of having to suffer at the hands of people who should not be here in the first place. They will respond with we hate them becuase they are brown. The race card is well-worn.
They have been taught that the wicked American government stole their land and they should take it back. But illegals and their supporters don't care about facts. They want to break our laws, then be rewarded for it. And they'll use any excuse no matter how irrational, incongruous, or preposterous.
Only that it suits their purpose.
This is showing a mindset that is severely undeveloped intellectually. The attempt at reason has become this strange dysrhythmia tugging at the culture.
The malady reveals how the candidate to undergo psychoanalysis is usual someone who, no matter how incapacitated at the time, is basically, or potentially having an intelligence quotient of 20 to 34 (mental retardation is 50 to 69).
This exponential decay can be extremely hazardous when the moonbat exposes their lack of education.
Sometimes, in the life of those of us who defend Freedom, it becomes necessary to speak the hard truth to those who appear incapable of comprehending basic reason, let alone the higher truths upon which Freedom does indeed depend.
If we allow Mexico and it's illegal citizens to remake the means by which our nation "makes a citizen," the motive, direction and meaning of the life of the American Citizen will be fatally flawed, and reduced to lawlessness and nothingness...
I don't think these people know the bible and God's law. He states we MUST OBEY the laws of our gov't, UNLESS...they are in opposition to HIS laws. Illegals are violating God's law. If you're legal, you have nothing to worry about. If you are illegal, not only are you breaking God's law the US law, but you need to go back home and come back here legally. You will be welcomed, but do it right.
@richka321
They call themselves No More Deaths. They are a volunteer group on the surface only. They hike the desert to leave water for illegal aliens (a gallon jug at a time).
They call it a regular supply job. The group, which searches for migrants in need of medical assistance, also leaves behind food, water and socks at designated locations along migrant trails. I don't know if they ever find migrants, but they do come across 1 or 2 illegal aliens.
Eventually, they will cross paths with armed drug runners and will meet their certain demise.
All they are doing is aiding and abetting illegal immigration, and should be prosecuted.
They leave supplies in the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge in southern Arizona. It recently had been closed off because of threats from drug smugglers and human traffickers. The third world violence is spilling over the border now.
Americans are warned by the State Dept. to stay out of the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge. Conditions in the zone reached a point where public use of the area was not prudent. Yet these bleeding heart liberals consider they have the high moral ground.
Did you know our Border Patrol can only drive into these wilderness areas in emergency situations? The incursions must involve human life, health, safety of people within the areas, or posing a threat to national security - and if pursuit is expected to result in arrest.
When that happens, Border Patrol has to alert federal land management and report what happened. If the determination was significant impact on the environment, they are ordered to submit written reports.
Illegal aliens don't have to.
And good luck in cleaning up the trash and human waste. There's over 65 million tons of it.
ssMarilyn, you know the saying " in one ear and out the other "? God's laws, the bible, the government, and citizens are being ignored by these illegals. They don't hear one word we are saying. The majority of illegals can't understand one word we say because they don't know the language. They are not able to press 2 for Spanish on this issue.
one thing is clear, reading these remarks SCREAMS that the American public are fed up with governments prostituting themselves to get votes by placating those who want illegals. We are in a DEFLATIONARY CYCLE that will last another 1/2 decade ( it is already at least 3 years old) and befor it is over the public will turn even more against illegals and those who pander to them.
Silence from RTK540 could mean that his mom had a word or two with him. He is probably nursing a fat lip.
fretsward...
Can you reveal a little bit about yourself? I am very impressed with your posts.
I think you might be a professor or an ardent student of law, history or politics. Am I even in the ball park?
Either that richka321 or his conscience is bothering him. I mean, we are two women just debating issues with one another. Me thinks that RTK540 is feeling somewhat guilty for thinking of such nasty things.
Maybe I am missing something but how does one go about retrieving private messages on this thing?
I noticed that RTK540's comments were removed by staff for language and name calling.
Good job staff.
Fedup...I would ask fretsward about how to retrieve private messages. He has a lot more knowledge than I have. I really don't know. Sorry.
Fedupwiththis: Here's a update to your history book.Puerto Rico is a self-governing commonwealth in association with the United States. The chief of state is the President of the United States of America. The head of government is an elected Governor. There are two legislative chambers: the House of Representatives, 51 seats, and the Senate, 27 seats.
@ricjka321
Thank you. I am not a professor, just an American. I just recently finished my career as an officer in the US Army. I have been engaged in this fight against illegal immigration for 30 years. I've witnessed first hand what the disease of Balkanization can do to a sovereign nation.
My heritage is Blackfoot. I am Native American.
My Confederacy consists of Aapatohsipikani, Aamsskaapipikani, and Kainai. We are Siksikawa. My tribe held most of the territory from the North Saskatchewan river, Canada, to the southern headstreams of the Missouri in Montana, and to the base of the Rocky mountains.
I take this matter very seriously, and do a ton of research. You can say I am in fact, a student of history - from a soldier's perspective.
fretsward
Great heritage and patriotism. As a "foreigner" I have always been fascinated with american history, especially native american history.
Thank you for sharing with me.
TonyCrago(} You are on the wrong site, there are no racist teabaggers here, just people who care about the future of their country, how about velegrosa, or whatever his name is, the Mayor of Las Angeles, what about La raza, that is one racist group. No you are on the wrong post, why is it that when Americans take a stand for their country we are call racist, but when illegal aliens try to invade, you say they have the right?
Support Arizona vacation there with your California vacation dollars!!!!!!
Would it to be fair to say that illegals are racially profiling the people who support enforcing our existing immigration laws!!!!!
I come of an immigrant family, my father and his family came to the US legally in the 40's and early 50's, I was born in 53, he didn't get his citizenship until 1956, although I am US born. We lved in Vegas in the 50's and 60's and traveled extensively down by the Mexican border in Arizona and California visiting relatives. On as many as a dozen occasions we were stopped by the Border Patrol because my father tanned so dark he looked more like a field worker tha a telephone lineman for Centel. This during the era of the bracero program, which I think worked well. The agents were always polite and courteous to the wagon full of brownskinned kids and parents; they would ask my father's status, place of birth, check his drivers license and wave us on our way. My mother was US born, so we kids were none of us anchor babies; my father got in line and was a legal landed emigrant. All this crap about the racist TEA partiers is BS, let all those who want to share in what the USA offers go back to their country of origin and do it legal. My uncle never became a citizen and has always carried his GREEN Card, no big deal. I know that La Rasa has a wack-off theory and dreamstate of AZTLAN in mind for this area, to hell with those who don't want to assimilate and become Americans! You want some more Mexico, there's plenty down south of the border. My neighbor John[Juan] XXXXX is a legal immagrant from Sonora, I asked him why move when he was doing good down there? He said, for my kids, there is a future for them here that is not possible there. Yup, thats why my Dad came over, too.
Raids? Sweeps? Roundups? You would think this is Poland circa 1940. Come on now.
Americans are have just had enough with illegal immigration and Mexican hissy fits.
We as a nation and culture are done with illegal immigration from Mexico.
We just can't take it anymore.
Enough is enough.
JH
bullmoose556: Thanks for that post. You are 100% correct.It would be nice to see post from others who have legally came to this country.
@TonyCrago
It is best to be considered loyal to Mexico, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Eighty-three percent of illegal aliens are from Mexico, and Central Americans.
Apologists for illegal immigration like to paint it as a victimless crime. In fact, illegal immigration causes substantial harm to American citizens, particularly those in the most vulnerable sectors of our population - the poor, minorities, and children.
Illegal immigration causes an enormous drain on public funds. The seminal study of the costs of immigration by the NAS found that taxes paid by illegal aliens do not cover a fraction of the cost of services received by them.
We cannot provide high quality education, health care, and retirement security for our own people if we continue to allow an endless number of poor, unskilled illegals to come because they want to.
Additionally, job competition by waves of illegal aliens willing to work at substandard wages and working conditions depresses the wages of Americans.
To disparage Americans, label them racist for dissenting, threaten to turn the tables and show them the door when those who are making the threats are not legally in the country makes the perfect case for the push for mass deportation, and a time out on all immigration.
The people you refer to are taxpayers who are going to show you that this is their country despite the false sense of encouragement due to illegal alien numbers. Americans for the most part follow the rule of law. This must not be mistaken for weakness. All one has to do is look to 1953 when Americans demanded president Eisenhower remedy the numbers of illegal aliens. If he did not act, Americans threatened to take matters into their own hands.
You don't force your way into a home univited, then have the temerity to tell the homeowner what to do. At least not in this country. You could very well lose your life.
Civil Rights are not squatters' rights. All benefits of citizenship depend upon lawful and established associations, freely given and received, that are founded upon an ethic of reciprocal responsibility, a civil balance of give and take between the individual and the nation. This lawful, freely-established association cannot be obtained through manipulation, nor can it be forced upon a free people by a political pressure group that has invaded the nation by violating her borders. Citizens cannot come to respect and participate in a nation governed by rule of law, through illegally obtaining the benefits of citizenship.
Citizenship has never been granted to persons because of their race or national origin - nor has this privilege been accorded to "groups" of persons. The measure of a citizen has always been the measure of an individual person.
It is the individual who comes to our shores and is accorded the blessing and dignity of a free person by the citizens of the nation called America - "the last, best hope of Earth."
For you and your like-minded parasitic professional politicians to suggest citizenship can be given to a group or what is no more than the disingenuous equivalent a path to citizenship is for you to propose the destruction of one of Freedom's cornerstones.
Your ruinous progressive policies would forever set the mold in the minds of these new citizens that their rights came first from affiliation to a political group (such as La Raza or the Democratic Party) which essentially means that it is their race and nation of origin they have to thank for their rights and the benefits of being an American citizen. Mexico, by this logic, would be the ultimate sponsor of their bid for citizenship.
The members of this group will forever tend to act in lock step with their political sponsors and not as real Americans.
Your Progressive ideology is a Babylon so foreign to the soul of this nation that we are, even now, feeling the dizzying effects which the confusion & Future Shock your multi-cultural vision for America is spawning. America has always welcomed the tired and the poor, from every nation. We have fought in combat, side-by-side, with men and women from every nation who love this country.
If you love America, you will respect her laws. If you respect your fellow citizens, you won't violate the will of her People. It is not enough to come to America and say you love her, because you are poor and she can give you a better life.
The measure of a citizen is in what he or she will sacrifice to defend her.
@pmontg53
His real name is Tony Villar. He combined his last name with his ex-wife to become Antonio Villaraigosa. He is a card-carrying member of MEChA, and an extreme racist loyal to Mexico and the racist Hispanic agenda.
He has turned Los Angeles into a racial powder keg. He is deeply rooted with the National Council of La Raza, LULAC, MEChA, the Brown Berets de Aztlan, New Movement for a New Anahauc, the Mexica Movement, Roger Mahoney, and a slew of Hispanic racist organizations.
It is people like him that have finally awakened Americans to the demographic invasion led by a sycophant Mexican government.
They are America haters who will make being illegally in the country a serious offense.
Many states are now adopting legislation to put an end to the hordes of illegal aliens overrunning their cities.
Out-of-control illegal immigration will soon be dealt with. They will be defeated.
Americans have never lost a war on their own soil.
"Twelve of those arrested had a prior criminal history"
That's great! That's the point! If I have to choose between illegal aliens scared to come out of their homes because of immigration raids or immigration raids resulting in arrest of illegal aliens that are criminals, I'll take the arrests. All day every day.
"He hasn't forgotten about us, and we are here to pray for all." God is supposed to help you break the law?????? I have reached me patience end....get out or get legal!!!!!
Has anyone here recently seen my buddy The Banana_Joe, who used to be selling his tasty, fresh banana in front of my new martial arts center, even folks from higher places (e. g. Sharron Angle) sometimes dropped by as customers to get the freshest banana. Last thing I remember is, that I told another guy named Rico Mofobi about the Banana_Joe's visa, that had expired six months ago. I hope Rico did not tell any cop about that visa issue, although Rico never liked The Banana_Joe too much... when have I met Rico the last time? I think that guy called Rico Mofobi risks a broken nose here.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0924129/
Chuck-Norris, Banana_Joe has been spotted selling his banana's on another thread. I hope he goes to immigration and gets his visa extended. It would be a shame not to see Banana_Joe selling his banana's anymore. :(
bullmoose556 it's always nice to hear of happy LEGAL immigration stories. My husband is one of them. My daughter is not an anchor baby due to the fact I had her in my husband's country - go figure, but she is a dual citizen. Illegal immigrants should run, not walk back to Mexico and come back in the right way. Same with any other nationality that is here illegally. The reason why Mexico is getting picked on is because they are the one with the highest illegal rate in this country. Wish that wasn't the case, but it is.
281 comments to this article so far and only a hand full of them supporting or at least making excuses for illegal aliens.
As a legal immigrant and naturalized citizen I always felt that ANYONE that wants to immigrate to the USA should be productive and contribute to their new chosen country by paying their fair share of taxes and not expect the government to support them. In contrast, mexican illegals only want to fleece this country.
I arrived in the US barely speaking and understanding the english language. Even though I have a college degree in my birth country, I worked in restaurants just to learn more english. I am proud to say that in less than a year I could work in my profession again.
Conclusion: Where there is a will, there is a way. Being in this country for years and not learning the language, is just another insult to americans. And our government caters to them by printing douments in spanish? This only confirms the ignorance of illegals and stupidy of politicians alike.
Hi richka321, where are equal rights? You or my husband didn't get any special treatment when dealing with the public when you first arrived in the U.S. If the government wants to cater to just the Spanish speaking community, they better start pushing for the other languages too:
Press 1 for English
Press 2 for Spanish
Press 3 for Chinese
etc etc etc until every language known in this country is locked in. Wouldn't it have been nice if every time my husband went to the bank that he could do his banking in his very own language? It's not even a choice. What about calling government agencies like the phone company, electric company, water company? He would have loved speaking to them also in his native language. What the heck, while we are at it, he could work at McDonald's and speak to you in his native tongue. Who cares whether you can understand him or not and he winds up giving you the wrong order! That's what we have to go thru on a daily basis!!!
Fedup..Did you receive the information on how to contact me?
Yes I received your messages, it came thru e-mail, I wrote you back. I sent you my e-mail, but I did not receive yours yet.
Fedup, check my last message via e-mail again. Maybe this works. If not, let's figure out something else.
Yes, we finally got it to work!
has a single LEGAL immigrant...of ANY race...been targeted by the teaPARTY?
no.
the only people making illegal immigration a racist issue are the ILLEGAL immigrants themselves in order to create a diversion from the real issue.
AMERICA is going bankrupt on spending for law enforcement, health care, education, road repair, etc. for ILLEGAL immigrants that do not put anything BACK into the system. they only TAKE from it.
and PLEASE don't give me that "they do the jobs that americans won't do" nonsense or "do you want to pay $9.00 for a head of lettuce" nonsense.
the FREE MARKET system...something liberals hate...even though they love the products that system gives them (computers, newspaper websites, high speed internet, etc.)...will ultimately determine the correct costs of goods sold. if a head of lettuce goes up to $9.00 because it's picked by an american worker instead of an illegal one...and people still BUY lettuce for $9.00?
then hey, liberals...a head of lettuce costs $9.00.
"Local Hispanic community on edge after immigration raids"
What?
Why not: "Criminals (insert crime of your choice) worried after crackdown"
This is not a story for debate, but the reporting of a victory.
The United States is the only country on the planet that allows special interest groups to think it's inhumane to consider our own interests by demanding immigrants come to this country legally.
Try showing up uninvited in any other country, illiterate and penniless, and announce: "I've come to your country for a better life to raise my family. I am going to live here because it's my civil right to do so.
Oh, and by the way, you have to change all your government and business phone messages, press 1 for your language, give birthright citizenship to our children and educate them in our language, pay for our hospitalization, welfare, convert all signage and ballots into our native language, give us drivers licenses, and allow us to demand citizenship by protesting in your streets.
They would laugh while kicking you out of their country.
What seems not to have occurred to the "No Human Being Is Illegal" crowd is that this is our country, not a public park.
We are all tired of hearing how raids to catch criminals break up families, how enforcing our laws is racial profiling, how we are racist against brown people, those against lawlessness are White people, right wingers, Tea Baggers, nativists, xenophones, how our immigration system is broken and needs "reform," if we do not comply the Hispanic voter will pay us back, how our requests for assimilation is strong on patriotism and traditional American values, and that our demands for foreigners to speak the language is potentially dangerous to the Hispanic community.
Meanwhile, Americans are frowned on to consider whether millions upon millions of illegal aliens refusing to learn English, American history and culture is potentially dangerous to our communities.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/aug...
If you are a legal immigrant, you shouldn't have to worry. If you aren't, too bad. You will be going home soon.
I urge all posters to this story to contact the writer, Cara McCoy, and DEMAND that she'll write an article based on the responses to her story.
It is only fair that the almost 300 responders to her article should have a voice too, considering it involves 10 times more people than the illegals huddled in the church.
OMG...OR WAIT????? CMC...To all of those that say"go back ,this is our country"..HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY TO OWN?jaja..Haven't you realized that all US belongs to China?????they own "your country".
Yeah..It's sad that most of you are waisting your time writing.S*%t and are doing nothing to help our economy .Get out and show what you have...yes, especially those who write loooooong posts...Gee.
@FedUpWithThis
Thanks for the link. I went over and noticed your comment was removed. I chimed in on your behalf.
Hello frestward,
Do you agree that the Las Vegas Sun should acknowdge and publish the responses to this article? I believe in equal time on issues. There is never anything on how fed up the american people are with the illegal situation.
I looked up the Federal Immigration laws and found some interesting language. According to the law, activist Flores is actually committing felonies by knowingly harboring and abetting illegals. Hiding under the title "Activist" does not protect him from breaking the law.
P.S. FedupWithThis and I correspond via e-mail now. She is a very nice lady. We both appreciate your intelligent posts.
@ PICASSO80
That slight was directed at me. I reject the nolo contendere. Your traducement is the motivation to rescind the fraud of our 14th Amendment. This is the direct result of phylum when obscured by overwhelming numbers of illegitimate people - which Americans want removed from this country despite the fact that it hurts your feelings.
Prejudice is actually a virtue.
In the real world, you would be reserved to your slang VHF channels in your home country (if you had electricity).
The ambience would be filled with the sounds of pigs, goats, and 2, maybe 3 chickens. Heavy, thick smoke from your neighbor's stove would permeate your entire space.
You decide to wake up from your dream and comment, still ungrateful, and then disdain those, who through their hard-earned tax dollars, allow you and your family sustenance.
The country's history is paved with the blood of many of our ancestors who fought hard to make it what it remains today. China doesn't own anything but bonds. Nearly every country in the west owns some US debt. Speak from your orifice that produces speech versus waste.
This is in fact, Our country, Our land, and Our lifestyle. We allow you the opportunity (against our will) to enjoy all this (even though you are criminals and do not belong here). But once you are done complaining, demanding citizenship that you have not earned, protesting in Our streets, murdering Our citizens, stealing Our IDs, closing Our hospitals, crowding Our schools, straining Our social services system, voting illegally in Our elections, claiming racism when things do not go your way, lowering Our wage and living standards, whining and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Language, Our Christian beliefs, Our Way of Life, and ignoring Our Laws, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great American right:
The Right To Leave.
This decree is declared valid and will stand as rendered in the court of lower intelligence quotients. Your comments will be admitted as psychobabble. Voir dire will suffice.
@richka321
Yes, but this article was written by an Hispanic reporter attempting to feign a two-card monty: sympathy and race.
The 4th Estate has invested Spanish-language media, and recruits anchor babies that are loyal to Mexico and the Hispanic/Latino agenda.
These America haters are the key players in the spin game, and attempt to paint the illegal alien as a pitiful undocumented victim. All that matters is La Raza.
Here's an example of Mexico's immigration laws. They are more draconian than Arizona law by a long shot:
Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:
Any Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to five years in prison. (Article 127)
A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally. (Article 123)
Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:
Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization will be imprisoned for 10 years. (Article 118)
Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)
A National Population Registry keeps track of "every single individual who comprises the population of the country," and verifies each individual's identity. (Articles 85 and 86)
A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants. (Article 87)
Immigration officials must "ensure" that legal immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance and for their dependents. (Article 34)
Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics."
No special bilingual programs in public schools:
All ballots will be in the official language:
All government business will be conducted in the official language:
Non-residents do not have the right to vote no matter how long they reside:
Non-citizens should never be allowed to hold public office:
No government (food stamps, etc.) for ILLEGAL aliens across the board. Qualified citizens only:
Foreigners are forbidden to protest including the waving of foreign flags, no open criticism of our political leaders or their policies. Violators will be deported or arrested:
Sounds like Mexico racially profiles, discriminates, and abuses it's legal immigrants.
Hypocrites.
@richka321
My previous post claimed the writer as Hispanic.
I apologize for the gaffe. No excuse, but I am engaged in multiple threads.
fretsward, many illegals marry U.S. Citizens for free entrance into the United States. Thank goodness my husband already had a work permit and permanent resident card when I met him. Still, many people felt that as soon as we married he would leave me once he became a citizen.
Several things jump out at me from this article:
He came to Las Vegas about 10 years ago, yet he still requires an interpreter.
If he is sent back to Mexico, he'll leave his kids behind? With who? And why? Would you leave your kids behind if you moved out of the country? What kind of a father says that?
It's too difficult to become a citizen legally. Well, it's too difficult to become wealthy legally, does that mean it's ok for me to break the law to get money?
"I know they have intelligence, but there needs to be accountability in agencies. They can't just do things because they want to," Flores said. Oh, so the government can't, but foreigners CAN?
ENFORCE our current laws and these people will self-deport. End of story.
charleyhorse, it's sad but true that many Mexican's would leave their children behind if they get deported. The reasons are simple: they are no longer of use to them. No more $1,000 per child tax credit, and no more free welfare per child quota.