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Harrah's Entertainment properties in Las Vegas are Planet Hollywood, foreground, Paris, shown in the background, as well as Bally's, Bill's, Flamingo, O'Sheas, Imperial Palace, Caesars Palace, Rio and Harrah's.
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 | 2 a.m.
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A federal lawsuit filed Tuesday is the latest in a series of class-action pay claims filed by Nevada workers.
This week’s case is against Harrah’s Entertainment. The suit alleges Harrah’s requires workers to arrive 10 to 15 minutes before their shifts start but doesn’t pay them for the extra time.
“Ten minutes before each shift may not sound like much” but multiplied by thousands of workers and their daily shifts, the unpaid wages could add up to tens of millions of dollars, says Reno labor lawyer Mark Thierman, who filed the suit on behalf of Harrah's Las Vegas dealer Kimberley Daprizio.
Pre-shift meetings, which include pep talks by managers and reminders about job standards and expectations, are common practice in the casino business and other customer service industries.
Station Casinos is facing an overtime lawsuit that includes the pre-shift issue. That case was filed last year in state court, but it’s on hold while the company’s bankruptcy case is sorted out.
The plaintiffs in that case also seek class-action status. They say workers were not paid for time worked before and after their shifts.
Station disputes the claims but is discussing a potential settlement with the plaintiffs’ attorneys.
In her suit, Daprizio says she clocked in early to attend daily management meetings where she received instructions from previous shift supervisors.
At Harrah’s, these are sometimes called “buzz sessions” and can involve singing and dancing to motivate workers and improve their mood before shifts.
Harrah’s spokeswoman Jacqueline Peterson said the company couldn’t comment on the lawsuit other than to say that “we will vigorously defend ourselves against any accusation that alleges we are in violation of the federal Fair Labor Standards Act.”
Daprizio’s case is a little unusual in that she filed the lawsuit while working for Harrah’s. Many workers who file wage and overtime suits pursue them only after being laid off, Thierman says.
Before the recession, employees were willing to overlook potential violations of labor law because they were reaping the benefits of their jobs alongside employers. But attitudes have changed in this era of mass layoffs and reduced pay and benefits. Now workers pick apart even minor violations out of a sense of betrayal, Thierman and other court experts say.
“As an employer, you can’t expect people to walk away with a smile and not sue you after you lay them off,” Thierman says.
Over the past several years, he has won hundreds of millions of dollars in settlements from a slew of corporate giants sued for wage and overtime violations, including securities firms, mortgage brokers and coffee giant Starbucks.
The settlements, Thierman says, are evidence of companies’ brazen attempts to skirt the law.
In Nevada, workers are turning to lawyers instead of filing individual complaints with Nevada’s labor commissioner, who is understaffed and lacks the political will to make controversial, wide-ranging decisions that could cost major employers millions of dollars, Thierman says.
Nevada Labor Commissioner Michael Tanchek says his office is indeed busy and typically investigates complaints on a case-by-case basis. Yet Tanchek says his office has the ability and the inclination to pursue large-scale audits against employers violating labor laws, provided an individual has evidence of such violations. Class-action lawsuits aren’t necessarily a more expeditious way of handling such complaints, Tanchek says. They have grown in popularity because they can yield big paydays for attorneys, he contends.
Class-action wage lawsuits against casinos haven’t been as successful as those against other industries nationwide, largely because they have been dismissed for procedural reasons, not necessarily because they lack merit.
In 2008, for example, a federal judge dismissed a pair of lawsuits against Mandalay Bay that alleged banquet workers were shorted pay, ruling that the disputes were subject to arbitration procedures spelled out in Culinary Union contracts with the casino.
In March, a state court judge dismissed a lawsuit against the Venetian for failing to give banquet workers time-and-a-half pay for overtime hours worked. Banquet servers can't sue for overtime pay under state law, and overtime disputes don’t belong in state court and must instead be heard by Nevada’s labor commissioner, District Judge Linda Bell said.
That ruling doesn’t apply to workers who sue because they have not been paid at all for time worked, however, Thierman argues.
A December ruling in federal court involving Bell Trans limousine drivers has paved the way for drivers to pursue their class-action lawsuit in court seeking pay for time spent on the clock but not shuttling passengers. Thierman is representing the Bell Trans drivers.
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Pay the overtime
Stop beating up on own workers
Take part of CEO's fat check. I don't think he has to show up early every day.
Rippin' off the tourists ain't enuff, they also have to rip-off their own employees. Shameful!
how about charging parking fees to the employees who still have to walk 25 minutes before getting to the changing room and the clock while giving free V.I.P. parking to the upper managment that gets the full mega bonus even if the company's losing big time money? Would be something they could make some extra cash from the bottom feeders while the fat cats collecting the big paycheck, anyways....
How many of these lawsuits are corporations - and especially casinos - going to have to lose before corporate management gets a clue??!!
We have to be at work 15 minutes early, no pay, or it's a disciplinary action. If you swipe in 15 minutes early, or swipe late at the end of your shift- even if it's because of job related issue - management 'adjusts' the clock-in / clock-out times on your swipes to reflect 8 hours.
This one issue probably causes more employee discontent than any other single issue.
Personally, I have no problem coming in a bit early if its to share critical information, I do it anyway. But I WOULD have a problem having to come in 15 minutes early for free to sing and dance and engage in other cult like activity to 'get us in the happy zone' before hitting the floor.
When I worked at Starbucks six years ago, I was told to start work ten minutes before I was allowed to officially clock in. I am not surprised that this lawyer has represented claimants against Starbucks. They are not the wonderful company to work for that the media makes them out to be.
Some of the Canadian banks have been doing the same thing, making pre-shift "buzz sessions" or "pep talks" mandatory or very close to it. The banks called them "huddles" here.
Two class action lawsuits have been filed against individual banks, but, as also noted in the above article, procedural technicalities are making progress on the lawsuits very problematical.
The unfairness of it all is that Canadian banks are huge and wealthy and powerful, and effectively stealing small amounts of time from loyal employees seems extremely petty.
Harrah's again!
The greedy hotel/casino corporate thieves will do anything they can to bolster their own gain at the disadvantage and cost of the employees. We all know that todays corporate environment still awards multimillion dollar bonuses to these idiots who are leading the sinking ship. Pay up Harrahs!!
Other casinos also do this. Have my wife clock out then go finish something she was working on. I told her never do that again. If they fire you over that we will file a suit. If you want people to work, then pay them for their time. My free time is worth way more then my work time.
What a bunch of parasitical leeches the workers of this country have become.
All the losers beating up on Harrah's or any other work place will be doomed to lousy jobs and lousy pay.
You don't get ahead by showing up on time..... you get ahead by showing up early and staying late.
Fifteen minutes isn't jack$hit.
Wow, 9 pro-labor posts in a row. Where are all of the chamber of commerce operatives ad corporate shills this morning?
Spoke too soon.
Do the math on those numbers 15 minutes a day, 5 days a weeks, 50 weeks a year, at overtime rate is over a thousand dollars. These guys might be making 25k a year.
What corporation would ever give up that much income? Why should a worker?
If a worker wants his or her money they are greedy? If a CEO or corporation wants money they are smart businessmen?
OneGuy, This is exactly what I was talking about... these losers waste more time on the toilet than the company could ever STEAL from them.
This article should expose how much time these loafers WASTE on smoke breaks or how much they steal by taking home pens and other innocuous office supplies..... it adds up too.
Our society is growing more anti business by the day..... the very businesses that drive our economy.
I would love to see one of these whiners gather the stones to run a business, that would shut them up.
getalife get your fat butt out of your recliner and take one of these jobs where you are not treated fairly for years and we'll see what kind of song you sing. There is something to really dislike a bout a blowhard who ridicules others while they are being mistreated. Do you have any concept of federal and state labor laws and the rights of people to stand up when they are mistreated? I doubt it. There is only one reason Thierman wins these cases, it is he is right and the employeer is wrong and has a long history of breaking the law.
Now comes this blow hard Jacqueline Peterson blowing off about Station casinos vigorously defending themselves while attempting to settle out of court before real damages are assessed. What bs. Station Casinos has it's hands full buying off the bankruptcy judge in Reno as they atempt to steal billions from thier investors. Real nice people these wonderful Fertittas. And you too get a life. Get a clue.
get a life I am a gambling man and I'll bet you have done everything you have accused the whiners of doing. What a phoney. The only stones you are aware of is the Rolling Stones you listen to while lounging in your oversized recliner.
Homer, Homer, Homer, I use to work for the Boyd Group and showed up so close to starting time they called me "minuteman", then a funny thing happened..... I started showing up early and staying a little late..... low and behold... I received many promotions.
I then went on the self-employment and have stayed there...good stuff.
So my dear Homer, before you start in on your "save the masses from evil doers" rant, understand this; just because you are sucking hind tit doesn't mean society as a whole should.
The hourly workers at Harrahs properties are required to clock in no more than 7 minutes before their shift starts. During the 7 minutes before their shift starts and after they have clocked in is when these "Buzz Sessions occur. Where is the problem here?
The salaried managers are required to show up 15 to 20 minutes before their shift starts to have their "Buzz session" so they can then administer the buzz to the employees.
These people should be so lucky to have a good paying job in this economy and they are complaining over 15 minutes!!! LAZY MORONS!! Las Vegas has some of the laziest workers in the country.
File more suits. Let's close these evil casinos and end their evil work in Las Vegas. The city will be much better off if they all close and we can commune with nature. Bring in Arizona's illegal immigrants and give them the empty homes in the city. Things will be better in the city after that.
"Be here on your time off, or don't come back!"
"Well, I kissed ass and look how great they treat me!"
getalife, your rant is ASTOUNDINGLY NAIVE!
"What a bunch of parasitical leeches the workers of this country have become.
All the losers beating up on Harrah's or any other work place will be doomed to lousy jobs and lousy pay."
The preceding message brought to you by your friends at Corporate America! AND the TeaBag/Republicanuts that naively feed their greedy piggybank.
What a comment! I mean, it's the ESSENCE of what is wrong with America's HUMUNGOUS CORPS.
Jim Murren made nearly $14 MILLION last year for running MGM Mirage into the carpet.
Do you have ANY IDEA how much 15 minutes times every Harrah's employee EVERY SHIFT ADDS UP TOO???
It's a TON OF DOUGH!
I'd tell em to KISS MY BUTT!
Then I'd phone my union rep.
The Death of The American Worker.
It's so hard to watch.
ps...
getalife, if you would read back into his comments, is a perennial BASHER of unions, and is a management kissa#ss.
His idea of "getting ahead" involves a kind of pandering to the powers that be that disgusts.
The proper route of advancement, of course, is by showing initiative and innovation and dedication. And yes, occasionally questioning your superiors and their motives; right to their face is often appropriate, & done properly, shows the boss you are your own person.
I found that recipe to be quite a bit more palatable than kissing someone's gluteus maximus ad nauseum.
RIP, American Worker.
gmag, I am a little confused, are you referring to me as a management kissa#ss??
Hardly, my friend, I am all for individual responsibility and hard work.
Yes, I am a union BASHER. They are currently worthless and brain wash sheeple into towing the union line.
Your quote, "I'd phone my union rep" says it all..... the unions have dumbed down America and have them running home to mommy anytime their feelings are hurt.
I knew posting on the board would cause problems since everybody wants society or some worthless attorney to cure their ills.
Get a backbone and put away your wishbone.
getalife;
I respectfully disagree with your comment,
in it's entirety.
Have a good one!
gmag, one more thing.... It is astounding how both yourself and your buddy Homer have attacked me using the same worn out diatribe of "management lackey".
I have thought about it and I guess if I have to be labeled, I would rather be a management lackey than a union whore.
I can only speak for myself and how my work ethic. I don't work for a casino. I always arrive to work 10-15 early. Chat with the coworkes, the plans for the day, etc. so that at 8am I can go right to my job.
I do not expect to be paid for this time. Just as I don't expect to get dressed for my job in the morning. It is all part of getting ready for work.
Showing up early and leaving late to make yourself look good is fine. Forcing employees to work while not getting paid is not fine. This turns into a pay decrease. Raises are not being handed out anymore, and now you are required to work more hours for the same money.
How about quit the "poor me" attitude and be happy that you're not among the hundreds of thousands that are out of work; don't pretend that you didn't know that taking a job at the casino would require a 20 minute walk from the parking garage, changing before work and so on and on... Sounds to me like the greedy ones aren't the casino's but the employees themselves. Next time you're at work texting, smoking, or generally screwing around just take that as your "compensation" you feel so entitled to.
Speaking about unions. In California you have a huge DEFICIT caused by the economy and the huge contracts and benefits given to the unions (teachers,police Firefighters ETC) The state wanted the unions to giveback some benefits there response was that we worked to HARD to get them!! I say let the states in financial crisis (CA, N.Y. ) to name a few go broke and let the government not bail them out. When the people on pensions don't get their checks anymore maybe things will change(doubt it)
The employer needs to do the right thing. Disneyland pays their employees 15 minutes before their shift starts and 15 minutes after it ends for them to change their uniform at wardrobe. It is the right thing to do. Harrahs needs to be the leader of a good employer and this will build good moral with its workers.
Management needs to be admired, not looked down upon. I would want my employees to want to work for me cause I treat them with respect and appreciate their work. Harrahs should settle this case prior to trial and change its ways.
Unfortunately for workers, all the absolutely right-on 'shoulds' from privatepk aren't the way it comes down.
First is the respect, then its attendant appreciation (or is it vice-versa?) then wage decrease, intrusion, disrespect, deprecation, etc.
The slippery slope of capitalism's tragic flaw: folks ain't capital, time is limited and slavery takes many forms including 'beggar thy neighbor'!
But in a world where international corporations own votes, what difference does the truth make? It certainly does not set us free.
It used to be that when you went to the Flamingo, you went to the Flamingo. When you went to the Rio, you went to the Rio. Now, wherever you go, you go to Harrahs. This is CRAP.
Right now a trip to Las Vegas looks too risky.
Harrahs has gotten so big that the gaming commission is powerless to enforce actions against them, out of fear that the casino could go bankrupt and that people could lose jobs as a result. Consequently, how do gamblers know they will get paid if they hit the jackpot? I don't trust them enough to buy their bonds, so why should I trust them enough to play in their casinos?
A casino that is this big and in this bad of finacial shape has a license to fleece the general public, and employees.
Bottom line, I don't believe Harrahs operates in good faith.
Just my Ten Cents.
Just wondering if the 10,000 people who showed up for the 500 jobs last week at RIO. would care if they came in 10 Minutes before a shift.
Just wondering if the 10,000 people who showed up for the 500 jobs last week at RIO. would care if they came in 10 Minutes before a shift.
Exactly the mentality of Corporate America. "They ain't got no choice so let's take advantage of them anyway we can. Make them beg, bark and whatever else we demand for their meager wages.'
It's so simple. If you want them to come in early, pay them to attend a mandatory pre-shift meeting.
If you don't want to pay them, don't make it mandatory.
This is the case where I work and we probably get 90 to 95% turn-out for a buzz session once a week.
Even though he would probably not admit it, the boss is checking who takes the initiative and comes in on his own time.
You think Harrah's is bad? There was a small business here in Vegas, they came from CA, who used to do the same thing to their hourly-paid people; this company made them come in TWO HOURS early for some 'motivation' session (unpaid of course)and made them stay at least an hour late (unpaid). They made their people work SIX days a week, paid them for only eight hours each day with no overtime. So for roughly 66 hours a week, these poor souls got paid for only 40. Needless to say, that little company disappeared after just over a year.
The name of the company? 'Allstar Promotions'.
NAC 608.115 Payment for time worked. (NRS 607.160, 608.016, 608.250)
1. An employer shall pay an employee for all time worked by the employee at the direction of the employer, including time worked by the employee that is outside the scheduled hours of work of the employee.
In a Results-Only Working Environment, crap like this vaporizes.
Do your job. If this is part of the job, you get paid for it.
If it gets results, then management WANTS to pay for it.
When it does NOT get results, management would stop wasting worker time and their money.
Come to the South Point!!!!!!!! Michael Gaughan treats us well!!!
ive always felt that thier off-the-clock meetings were illegal.looks like they owe me 1/4 hour ot from the time they took over the joint were i worked in mid '05 until i left in mid '07.lets see 2.50 x 520 days worked.looks like they need to cut me a check for 1,300 not to mention compensary and punitive damages,20 k mite do it.
South Point Number 1!!! Great rooms, great buffet, great pool, great gym, great spa. It's got all that a tourist needs, and locals alike. Even the poker games are ok.... at nights. Wouldn't want to play day games 2-4 limit, but the nightly 1-2 nl game was ok when I played there.
Greetings from Switzerland
Boris
I work as a dealer at a Harrahs owned property and have mixed feelings on this subject. There are a lot of things that frustrate me with my job, but on this subject alone, I guess I'd have to side with the company for a couple reasons:
1. With how unpredictable the traffic is in this town, planning to get to work 10-15 minutes early is just being a responsible worker in case you run into a traffic jam. I've had this happen a few times and ended up punching in barely on-time. I definitely would have been late otherwise. And just so everyone knows, I've NEVER been written up for the rare times I've missed the pre-shift meeting.
2. Dealers get breaks after working for an hour and the breaks last 20 minutes. Sometimes that last 20 minute break falls during the last 20 minutes of the shift. We refer to it as the "early push". For example, if a dealer gets tapped out on break at 3:40am and the shift ends at 4am, we just clock out and go home. The casino does NOT adjust the clock to pay us 7 hours and 40 minutes, we get paid for the full 8. In fact, many times the dealer tapping you out in this case will come down and get you out earlier than other breaks. There have been many times that I've gotten home at the exact time my shift ended, yet am still paid for 8 hours. The "early push" happens approximately once every four shifts, so when you compare the ratio of time paid from the early push to the 10 minutes per day before each shift, it pretty much just comes out in the wash.
Like I said earlier, there are things that make me frustrated with my job and there are definitely things I'd do differently if in charge, but this pre-shift issue just isn't something I stress about.
Could it be that she is not so worried about 10-15 minutes, but more about her job security? Now - when the lawsuit is filed on her behalf - nobody can fire or lay her off... that would be RETALIATION...
Just a guess :)
"Just wondering if the 10,000 people who showed up for the 500 jobs last week at RIO. would care if they came in 10 Minutes before a shift"
Yeah, that's right. Be a Corporate Slave, because you are lucky they "allow you" to have a job. Kiss butt. Work for free. Be taken advantage of by greedy pigs who make millions in compensation. Corporate America. God bless us.
We are so screwed.
Very well stated Cosmo43. If it weren't for the pre-shift meeting, you would have employees racing into the parking lot, racing into the building in a hurry to put away items they bring to work, then running onto the floor arriving at the time clock waiting in line and probably punching in late as well as arriving at their table or work station late making the previous shift employee late clocking out causing conflict and then huffing and puffing in front of guests all to save that precious 10 minutes!! Should we also demand to be paid from the time we get out of bed, take a shower, do our hair, get dressed, drive to work as well as the time it takes to get home from work because these are all work related as well, right??
This is the most rediculous lawsuit I have ever heard of, no wonder American Companies are moving to China and abroad, they don't have these petty problems with people who are just happy to be working and provide a life for their families. I guarantee you this girl is an American!! She should be shown her signature that she signed when she acknowledged and approved of the company procedures in the Employee Handbook and then escorted off the property!!!
Harrah's nickel and dimes their employees to death. They cut the 401k matches,close the employee dining rooms, and generally treat their employee's like s#@t. While giving their fat a$$ CEO, Mr. Loveman, 90+ million dollar bonus. I hope this lawyer rakes Harrah's over the coals.
Where can I sign up for my money. I worked for these jerks for almost 5 years before I finally got fed up with their treating us like 6 year olds. Karma is a b!tch, isn't Harrah's?
Mr Denver21... I don't remember seeing anything in the handbook telling me I had to make an ass of myself and clock in early to attend a harassment meeting 10 minutes before my shift. In addition, to being talked down to as if I was a 6 year old. When I go to work I'm ready to work, not do the Irish jig or be repeatedly told to smile and interact with the guests. If you think Harrah's is so great why don't you go work for these clowns. I'll give you less than a year at any of their properties.
dlmvegas, so you think smiling and interacting with guests is not part of your job?? And your in the customer service industry?? Tell me, when you go on vacation, do you expect the employees you are dealing with to not smile and interact with you? If this is the attitude of all Las Vegas Casino-Resort employees then we are in deep trouble and people visiting Las Vegas will never come back. Can you blame them?? Oh, and I have worked at a Harrahs property for over 3 years now and have been able to provide a nice life for me and my family.
When I take a vacation, I appreciate employees that work for the places that I choose to visit to at least be glad that I am there and say and have a good time while your here!! I work hard for my money and I want me and my family to enjoy ourselves.
A big rasberry to Harrah's. They have always been a horrible company to work for.
getalife...you used to work for Boyd Group and started kissing a*s, coming in early and leaving late and you got a promotion....and I'm sure Boyd paid you well too. They like kissa*s employees and DO NOT pay well. They throw titles around, but not much money.
Denver21...Yes I know that is part of my job it's the fact that they just keep nagging you every day about it. I'm not some 6 year old who has be told every damn day what I'm supposed to be doing. I know what I'm supposed to do. I'm glad you're happy working for these jerk-off's. Given what you've said you must be one of those management people who has been trained to treat the employees like dirt.
My husband works for Mr. Gaughan and he is a great employer that cares greatly for his employees. That's why he has so many long-term employees still with him. My father-in-law worked for Mr. Jackie Gaughan and he too, was a great employer. Doesn't seem to be too many of them left. I know we're talking corporation vs private, so I would assume working for private companies is better than the greedy corporations???
What about optional practices in the NFL, I never went.
getalife, get a life!
It really look like your off work time is wortless,but this doesn't mean other people don't have a life or they off work time is wortless like it is for you.Keep take your pant's off in front off your employer,he's getting rich whit people like you.
Back in the 70's I worked for Standard Oil Co. at a company owned service station (one of several) on the Illinois Tollroad. One day, out of the blue, all current and past employees were notified we would be getting back pay for the extra minutes per shift we were required to stay while the shift monies were balanced. None of us gas jockies knew anything about this coming. But it was true. We each had been 'giving' away about an hour a week.
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Back then, a big powerful corporation didn't want to 'mess with' the government. It was better to just fess up and take the lumps, rather than run the risk of getting them mad and looking deeper, 'cause then there may not be a business at all later.
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Of course, back then the government was looked at like the tough guy on the block, not like your little sister, as they are today.
Denver21: omg: really? What a crime if the employee is an American; after all, we are in America! People like you make me sick! and its these corporations that keep hiring immigrants and god forbid and american born citizen get a job!
Denver21 and getalife are just a couple of corporate lackeys, don't expect much. getalife got a promotion and put on a suit. Ever since he has felt he is something special and others are beneath him. An empty suit with no soul, so much to be proud of.
Actually angela5503, my pay relies on me as well as others to provide an enjoyable experience for our guests so they will tip. I have to split this with the lump that stands there and does nothing except complain about petty little things like arriving 10 minutes before work!!!
30 YEARS AGO I WORKED FOR CASINOS. THEY BEEN PULLING THE SAME OLD CRAP THEN. REVENGE WAS ON MY MIND WHEN WE (SERVERS) WERE NOT ALLOWED TO DRINK COFFEE OR SODA. THERE WAS SOO MUCH WASTE BY FELLOW EMPLOYEES, MYSELF INCLUDED. INTENTIONALLY THROWING AWAY FRESH BAGS OF COFFEE, SILVERWARE, TEA BAGS, FRESH ORANGE JUICE, PLATES, CUPS, SAUCERS, YOU NAME IT IT WAS THROWN OUT IN THE TRASH. THUS RESULTING IN MORE COST FOR THE CASINO'S.WHILE I CAN SAY NOW THAT IT WAS NOT A WAY TO HANDLE THE SITUATION, IT GAVE ME A SENSE OF REVENGE AND "YOU SCREW ME, I'LL SCREW YOU" SORRY BUT IT DID HAPPEN.
This is called biting the hand that feeds you. I worked for Harrahs and the Buzz Sessions were informative and helped you to provide your guest with information that led to us getting more "TIPS", "Money","Mulah". What ever happened to gratefulness? And you call the casinos greedy? When you left home did you say you were going to work or play date? I bet the casinos paid you for your breaks, are you willing to give that back? WOW, that is what's called greedy.