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Sunday, April 25, 2010 | 2 a.m.
Sun Coverage
Rory Reid
Gov. Jim Gibbons
Brian Sandoval
Michael Montandon
The winner of Friday’s gubernatorial debate wasn’t even there.
The Republican candidates, all three of whom participated, fell over themselves trying to appeal to the conservative base.
They promised to cut $3 billion or so from state spending upon taking office next year. They expressed support for suing the federal government over the new health care law. And they backed Arizona’s tough immigration law, which grants police new powers to detain anyone suspected of being undocumented.
It was smart politics for June’s primary, when the party’s conservative voters have outsized control over the outcome.
But it also fixed the three GOP candidates — Gov. Jim Gibbons, Brian Sandoval and Mike Montandon — on the right of the political spectrum, a position that could be uncomfortable when voters choose the next governor in November’s election.
Who then may be the ultimate winner of the Reno debate? Democrat and Clark County Commissioner Rory Reid.
Reid is running without a competitive primary and Friday’s debate — hosted by the Anger is Brewing, a Tea Party group — provided the clearest evidence yet of the benefit he reaps by getting a pass from his party. While his opponents try to appeal to the Republican Party’s narrow base, Reid can avoid taking positions to placate the liberal or labor base of the Democratic Party.
Not coincidentially, on Thursday Reid backed out of a candidate forum in Southern Nevada, saying he didn’t want to debate the three Republicans.
While Reid has touted his “white papers,” on the economy (he wants to diversify and expand it), ethics (he’s for it), and education (he wants to reform it), he has claimed it could all be accomplished without spending any more money.
Indeed, he has avoided taking a stand on the state’s most pressing issues. During the special session, he wouldn’t take a position on how to fix the state’s $800 million budget hole. He has so far punted on the even larger shortfall — estimated at between $2.5 billion and $3 billion — looming in 2011. And on the federal health care law, he has failed to address its higher future costs for the state except to say that he would not sue to stop the legislation championed by his father, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Instead, he has stood by as his Republican opponents flash their conservative credentials to primary voters.
On Friday, as the Republicans staked out their positions, it was easy to imagine Reid campaign operatives drooling over the material offered up for attack ads.
Each of the three Republicans were asked if they would sign a pledge not to raise taxes.
Gibbons and Montandon said they had already signed it.
Sandoval said he would not, adding: “I’ve said very specifically I’ll not be raising any taxes. I’ll be vetoing any tax.”
On Arizona’s immigration law and racial profiling, Gibbons gave a confusing answer: “Racial profiling should be used for terrorism, if someone is coming here to deal drugs, commit crime, commit terrorist acts. If you’re going to racially profile an Irishman, then I’m going to question that. The constitution gives us all certain rights.”
Montandon said he supported profiling though it should not be racially based.
Sandoval, who was the state’s first Hispanic attorney general, said: “I have reviewed Arizona’s law, and I anticipated this question. I would support Arizona’s law. I do not support amnesty. I do not support driver’s licenses for undocumented immigrants.”
His statement seemed to contradict what he told the Latino Lions Club in Reno — that he would consider driver’s licenses for illegal immigrants.
The hard line on immigration played well with the conservative crowd. But in November it will certainly be used by Reid to motivate Hispanic voters.
On education, Montandon said: “Until recently, it was illegal to pay a good teacher more than a bad teacher.”
Gibbons said, “What the state needs to be doing is getting the hell out of the way of dictating what the state needs for our kids.”
Sandoval called for, “An end to seniority and tenure. Teachers should be rewarded for being great teachers, not rewarded just for being there some amount of time.”
Ending tenure for teachers? It was an applause line on Friday.
Come November, it will be a line used to get out the teacher vote for Reid.
Interesting positions on 1070. Don't profile Irishmen? Like the IRA? but the "Arabs" There are blue eyed, blond Islamics, in Afghanistan no less. Guess Gibbons likes the profile of some people,but I won't get into that..
So Sandoval was ready on a 1070 question? Must have been reading the Sun's website? This means Reid will have to come-up with an answer sometime. (Probably hopes it will be hung up on appeal, to save him from having to take a position.) If it is 70% approval in AZ, 60% among Democrats, a 1070 bill would have at least 60% support in Nevada.
Of course 1070 really does not do much, if a couple of people are hiding in a car truck, or 67 people are riding in the back of a u haul truck (just happened in AZ BTW) you can ask them if they are here legally??
Sandoval can just take another position in Spanish Language ads. Too bad I missed the debate, I could have ask him about his Birth Certificate.
Sandoval has learned the lesson...Say one thing in Reno and the rural counties, and say another here in Las Vegas and hope no one calls you on it.
Gibbons gave a confusing answer? When someone speaks out of both sides of their mouth, it is usually confusing.
What LV Sun's David McGrath Schwartz says is "While his opponents try to appeal to ...base, REID can avoid taking positions to placate the liberal or labor base of the Democratic Party."
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LV Sun's David McGrath Schwartz further says
"Indeed, [REID] has avoided taking a stand on the state's most pressing issues.
During the special session, [REID] wouldn't take a position on how to fix the state's $800 million budget hole.
[REID] has so far punted on the even larger shortfall -- estimated at between $2.5 billion and $3 billion -- looming in 2011."
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Voters know that REID has FAILED at the Clark County level
So LV Sun's David McGrath Schwartz is saying that REID will not lead.
So LV Sun's David McGrath Schwartz is saying that REID can not tell us how REID would solve the budget problem.
So LV Sun's David McGrath Schwartz is saying that REID can not come out of his cave until after he wins the election
Surprise, surprise, surprise that the LV SUN would do a promotion piece on Harry Reid. Oops, I mean Rory Reid...
wow...is the Sun a liberal biased rag or what? Its true the media is screwing up this country and this twist on the GOP, this is a perfect example...pushing Reid is of one writers personal opinion...not a true indication of events...lets take back America people...I am glad I dont spend a dime to read the local newpapers...only see it online...and never will spend a dime for this..wow
The Reids must get together and laugh about the lack of lack of capable candidates the Repbubs and TeaBags are able to run against them; "IS THAT ALL YOU GOT?" Ha Ha Ha!
Gibbons has completely lost his mind. He's unfit for office RIGHT NOW. The man seems to have some serious mental health issues, and the more he talks the more . Montandon has NO SHOT. Sandoval has a legit shot, but he's his own worst enemy. He's a panderer and a pretty boy and will have a wide appeal because of it. He does not impress as a deep thinker. "I will veto any tax increase". WHY do they even say such blatantly foolish things???
How ironic that the righties have a great opportunity to do some major damage to the Democrats; and they are making a mockery of it.
EIEIO!!!
I'm not sure why you Republicans continually blame the Sun for your problems. Yep, it is a liberal newspaper, no doubt; but making your politicians look bad is simply a matter of reporting on the facts in evidence. It isn't too difficult to make Gym Gibbons, John Ensign, Sue Lowden & Sharon Angle look unfit for office.
They are.
I love gmags response. The same thing can be said about Fox news.They report the facts and you decide, and its not too difficult to see that democrats are unfit for office.
The Sun isn't painting Rory in a very good light in this article. It certainly isn't a fluff piece as you are claiming.
Maybe you should read it again.
Sandoval is a terrible panderer, and how arrogant can he be to think he can say hateful things, support a racist (and unenforceable, BTW) law and then expect that Latino voters will forget, and just line up and vote for him anyway based on his last name. That's despicable.
Just more proof that all the repugs are alike:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lVVGaMw7...
"On Arizona's immigration law and racial profiling, Gibbons gave a confusing answer: "Racial profiling should be used for terrorism, if someone is coming here to deal drugs, commit crime, commit terrorist acts. If you're going to racially profile an Irishman, then I'm going to question that. The constitution gives us all certain rights.""
The man who set up the Constitution Defense Fund speaks. The confusing answer provided by the Governor reflects nothing more than the ramblings of a confused man.
This is pretty good article. The second this week by this writer (the first on the budget laid out the issues clearly.)
None of the candidates come out of this looking good, even Rory.
"While Reid has touted his "white papers," on the economy (he wants to diversify and expand it), ethics (he's for it), and education (he wants to reform it), he has claimed it could all be accomplished without spending any more money.
Indeed, he has avoided taking a stand on the state's most pressing issues. During the special session, he wouldn't take a position on how to fix the state's $800 million budget hole. He has so far punted on the even larger shortfall -- estimated at between $2.5 billion and $3 billion -- looming in 2011. And on the federal health care law, he has failed to address its higher future costs for the state except to say that he would not sue to stop the legislation championed by his father, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid."
Greenspun must be on vacation for something like this article to be printed.
Keep up the good work.
I'll bet my trust fund that Barry Akbar Obama, an Illegal Alien, won't be visiting Sheriff Arpaio's realmdom any time soon.
"If you're going to racially profile an Irishman, then I'm going to question that. The constitution gives us all certain rights."
Profiling whites: unconstitutional.
Profiling browns: not so much.
The name is perfect -- Anger is Brewing. Anger, fear and resentment is now a political movement that's proud to admit it.
But teabagger rhetoric has a very narrow, limited audience.
The candidates, even one as stupid as Gibbons, know that while such talk gets the far-right / birther / black helicopter / militia base into a tizzy, outside in the real world it goes over like Lowdown's chickens for healthcare scheme.
Whichever GOP hack wins the nomination will have no choice but to move toward the center for the elction.
The radical right wants to take us back to the 'olden days', back when lynching was legal (only when necessary, of course) and honest, white, Jesus-loving townfolk traded their prized milking cow to the local doctor for delivering the family's tenth child.
But don't dare cut off their Medicare or Social Security payments because then the angry teabaggers couldn't afford to attend their next anger rally.
The Constitution gives its countries legal citizens certain rights.you forgot the word "illegal"
stop terrorism in our country.....profile
stop illegal enry into our country......profile
and if any democrat comes back with some usual ignorant remark, lets answer it right up front.every democrat in office and on these threads have profiled every conservative and every republican,and by the way, the only party throwing racial comments around, such as: you don't like Obama because he's black, or the only people I see at tea rallies are white.The liberal news media, picks out an african american guy at a tea rally and asks him why he's there, and doesn't he feel out of place.Only a democrat would come up with that crap, and then accuse a republican of being racist. ridiculious,racist, and hypocritical, get these democrats out of our offices before they totally devastate this country.
PBS is giving a one hour interview to each Governor candidate in late May. There are currently 12 candidates.
Voters, please research third party candidates.
www.Curtis4governor.com
Facebook Group: Curtis4governor
I have read numerous comments about the failure of the three GOP candidates to differentiate themselves in this debate. I guess people do not really understand either the mechanism called a primary, or the audience that hosted the debate. Primaries have the ability to produce the wrong candidates due to the pull of the party's extremists (see. Titus, Dina 2006). Thus, it is entirely worthless for a candidate to do anything more than display an understanding and appreciation for the prevailing opinions of those who vote in the primary. If Rory were debating Buckley right now they would be tripping over themselves discuss all sorts of liberal fantasies. They would affirm announce opinions on issues of state-wide importance such as Roe v. Wade and a time table for leaving Iraq.
That being said, I am confident that Sandoval is by far the best candidate for governor we have had in a long time. His qualifications and the diversity of his record far exceed anyone else in this race. What's more, while Sandoval has to tow the party line in a debate, Rory Reid has made sure and tow the party line throughout his brief and absolutely undistinguished career. He has stood by while Clark County implodes. He refuses to stand up to the union though guys who see that he gets re-elected. It is somewhat sad that even Sisolak has stood above Rory.
Make no mistake, Reid going to do everything in his power to see that Gibbons wins the primary. Sandoval is really facing two general elections, and he is running against the Reid machine both times.
lipton is calling out dem's for pointing out facts in evidence.
You've no doubt heard the expression "if the shoe fits"?
No Reid for Governor or United States Senate
Harry and Rory both think money will get them elected
gmag, have you also heard the expression, a racist always accuses everyone else of being racist, a liar always thinks everyone else is lying and a cheater always thinks they are being cheated on?
The Reids must get together and laugh about their lack of voter favoribility that both Reid's have.
I bet papa and baby Reid will both be still laughing on November 3rd when voters put them both out to pasture...
maybe they can become chicken ranchers.
Another biased story by the most liberal of all Nevada media... 'fell over themselves'... If you get a chance to bash Republicans, you'll do it. Shame on the "real" journalists who work at the Sun for not pointing this out.
Say no to all of them including Rory. Unless you want your state to be totally burried forever say yes to any of them. Doesnt anyone learn from past mistakes? Wake up Nevada and see past the bs and lies.
I have a feeling Obama will go to Mexico and tell their president he is sorry for americans and the attitude we have towards mexicans illegally occupying our country, and he will do everything in his power to make sure every illegal has the same opportunities and benifits given to the citizens of the United States.
LOL....Republicans debate, but a Democrat is the winner.
RHG, its spelled weiner, not winner.
Here we go again, the Las Vegas Sun is sooooooo biased. Can't wait until their sorry Reid loses. This paper is nothing but an eqivelent to the National Inquirer for the Progressives.
I wonder if the Sun is affiliated with MSNBC.give us a minute here, we will have an influx of liberals spewing about FOX. Did any of you liberals know that Heraldo Rivera who works for FOX is a liberal?
LOL....Republicans debate, but a Democrat is the winner.
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If republicans only had to do photo ops and shout slogans they'd win more elections. It's when they open their mouths and answer questions that they run into big trouble.
Did any of you far-right radicals realize Joe Scarborough is a former US Rep from Florida?
lipton,
you guys can have Geraldo! Maybe you'se can find
something in his empty brain vault.
of course you might say that, but look who's out there,college educated in broadcasting, reporting, traveling and making good money and whose here with an anonymous nametag, I'd say the empty brain vault doesn't quite lie with Geraldo now does it?
--- The Constitution gives its countries legal citizens certain rights.you forgot the word "illegal" ---
Illogical, factually wrong, and barely literate: Or in other words, another shining example of Teabaggerey.
its great and very transparent, when a liberal doesn't have an answer or can't refute a comment in a debate, they will always resort to name calling.
"I have a feeling Obama will go to Mexico and tell their president he is sorry for Americans and the attitude we have towards Mexicans illegally occupying our country, and he will do everything in his power to make sure every illegal has the same opportunities and benefits given to the citizens of the United States."
The above is a great piece of work by "lipton." Unfortunately it will most likely happen, if Obama hasn't already been on the phone to Mexico...
Obama's phone call may go like this: "...because whether we like it or not, we remain an attraction for illegal immigrants because we really don't want to enforce our immigration laws..."
Lipton, seriously, we speak English in this country. Please learn some.
I think it's funny. All the put-upon republicans talking about illegal immigration?
They actually think the republicans would do something about it?
Who was the last President sign his name and grant amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants?
Ronald Reagan (R)
Who controlled Congress and immigration policy in the 90's and through 2006?
The republicans
A republican President granted illegals amnesty and a republican congress (and later with a republican President) allowed illegal immigration to skyrocket.
But then, these are the same people who elect big-spending republicans who tell them they are "conservative."
"There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again." -- Former republican President George W. Bush, illustrating the brilliance of the modern "conservative."
we speak english in this country???? learn some??
thats really good!
I guess you don't understand "plain" english without the nasty vile twist to it.
lets try it again for you....stupid, illiterate,loser,racist,hater. how's that? oh, wait, chickenhawk. why do you respond? nothing comes from you with any intel, its all belittle name calling. no wonder you can't tell when someone speaks english without the vile.It must be the special liberal language, with the forked tongue.
ksands,under Bushes watch:
The White House also released a Fact Sheet titled "Comprehensive Immigration Reform: Securing Our Border, Enforcing Our Laws, and Upholding Our Values" outlining the President's goals for a comprehensive immigration reform package. The Fact Sheet states that the President supports comprehensive immigration reform to secure our border, improve enforcement of our laws, and uphold our values. The President also discussed his proposal for a temporary worker program that rejects amnesty, allows foreign workers to fill jobs no American is willing to do, and reduces smuggling and crime at the border.
not quite the same as the annointed one's immigration reform plan. and tell us, if his passes, how much do you think illegal immigrants will skyrocket?
The Democratic Party recognizes and understands that immigrants from different cultures and nations built our country. We want to ensure our country continues to flourish from the benefits of diversity. Democrats have proposed immigration reform that calls for family reunification, earned access to legalization, enhanced temporary worker programs, and fairness for immigrants and legal residents.
so when the democrats give amnesty to the illegals, how will that be different than in Reagans time? I do think you are a little off on the accusations.
lipton, so your grand rebuttal is: Bush put out a memo?
The FACT is that under republican Presidents, millions of illegal immigrants were granted amnesty, and under republican Presidents, illegal immigration continued at a feverish pace.
Bush did next-to-nothing to stop immigration, as evidenced by your grand rebuttal: Bush's Memo!
The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA), also Simpson-Mazzoli Act (Pub.L. 99-603, 100 Stat. 3359, signed by President Ronald Reagan on November 6, 1986) is an Act of Congress which reformed United States immigration law. The Act made it illegal to knowingly hire or recruit illegal immigrants (immigrants who do not possess lawful work authorization), required employers to attest to their employees' immigration status, and granted amnesty to certain illegal immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 1982.Now tell us, you criticize republicans by using this law that Reagan passed back in 1986, that it didn't work, so why on earth would you support Obama trying to do the same thing? I see, its different because its a democrat doing it. I get it now.
The last thing this state needs is another stinking Reid pushing immigration! Rory wants to turn Nevada into California.
Now is NOT the time for Obama's immigration bill. Obama still isn't focusing on the economy and Americans' needs for jobs. What is wrong with Reid and Obama? We need to focus on Americans. We need to take care of our people first. There are too many Americans who have lost their jobs, can't find work, and are homeless.
Lipton, of course you miss the point.
You and your republican friends have been using illegal immigration as a campaign issue for decades. You listen to talk radio which portrays any undocumented worker as a wanton murderer or rapist. You clap loudly when you hear Gibbons or Sandoval or Tark talking about how BAD illegal immigrants are... so you vote for them.
And then they get elected and either do NOTHING or LEGALIZE the practice.
Obama has been talking about the need for comprehensive immigration reform for years. I expect him to get it done.
Why aren't you asking the same of the republicans you elected? Like lemurs, you guys just keep re-electing the same people who fail to follow through on their promises.
Historically, republicans have been weak on immigration. That is an undeniable fact.
my goodness, you are really creepy. You have me doing all these things, you assume to know my every thought or move, and I'm not aware that we know each other or have ever met. ksand, don't assume anything.
Just remember, when someone tries to divide and conquer, which is what your annointed one is doing, they don't stand very long, they crumble, in a very short time.
3 republicans and the same idiotic answer....."I won't raise taxes".
Since these 3 won't raise taxes, why not just save the state a governors salary for the next 4 years and place a rock in the governors seat.......the rock won't raise taxes either, and Nevada doesn't have to pay it 6 figures.
The state will not be governed any less by the rock and the rock might be smarter than Gibbons.
Gee, Sandoval seems to be the easy choice. He has the best hair, and he can work both sides of the street, telling the Latino Lions one thing and the TeaBaggers another.
Gibbons? Ho, ho, ho! Hee, hee, hee!
Who's that other guy?
Good thing someone removed the bullets from Sandoval's gun before the debate. He repeatedly tried to shoot himself in the head.
Mike Montandon for Governor.
The problem with Nevada politics is that I can never tell if I'm reading about current events, or a parody of current events.
Since ksand99 brought it up...
Democrats support amnesty...
74 percent of Nevada's Democrats SUPPORT offering amnesty to illegal immigrants, while 20 percent oppose.
Republicans oppose amnesty...
79 percent of Nevada's Republicans OPPOSE offering amnesty to illegal immigrants, while 14 percent oppose.
This is according to a poll conducted April 14-15 by Mason-Dixon Polling...
Like his dad, Rory Reid should b a shoe in 2 win the Govnor seat with these nut case Republicans he up against.
I am on twitter and SueLowden is the talk of the entire country and it is not good either
Not only is this woman ignorant, but she ignorant with no legislative experience
How could Republicans be serious about putting this woman in the Senate
It is just mind blowing
Have you seen the current polls there 'StCyrlyMe2'?
Sue Lowden is still 10 points ahead of Harry Reid in the race for Harry's seat. And that will take all lot of chicken bribes for Harry to catch up.
And Harry and Rory still has not gained any more friendly voters in the state of Nevada. Another recent poll shows Harry Reid with an unfavorable rating of 56 percent with the citizens of Nevada.
I kinda feel sorry for the poor Chicken Liberals as they have nothing else going for them but Harry and Rory Reid.
the minute Obama says we will pass reform, there will be thousands of illegals crossing the borders to cash in on it. If they don't secure our borders before they pass some immigration reform(at the fed level)it will be a failure. Do you really think Obama will do that, considering he wants the hispanic vote in November? thats a big NO. All you dems always want the "raise taxes" idea. At what point do you feel enough taxes, until they fix the problems of throwing good money after bad? When you have a car that keeps costing you money to fix, at what point do you get rid of it because its not cost effective? Teachers want a 10% tax raised on peoples property taxes to pay their salaries, can you all afford that? Can you all afford to pay 35% of your paycheck to taxes? That doesn't include your new healthcare bill, the new SS withdrawl, and the new medicare withdrawl.You democrats are sucking americans dry.I am with the tea party....you democrats have Taxed us Enough Already.you look for the easy way out instead of fixing the problem.
"Sandoval said he would not, adding: "I've said very specifically I'll not be raising any taxes. I'll be vetoing any tax.""
yes that's what you say now- but where is the pledge? And stop claiming you will veto any tax increase proposal that comes your way-- we know your history of tax increase. It's a damn gloomy one. BS stop BSing.
Rory Reid? Please, simply no more than a chip off the old block.
Go Rory - go Harry - go Lipton - I hear that there is room for you in Mexico.
Sandoval won that debate. No question. No tax pledges are traps. And it will be refreshing to have a governor who can read proposed legislation or acts of congress or laws in other states (AZ) and actually understand their political and legal implications. Judge Sandoval is NV's next governor.
It's fine to say "I intend to not raise taxes", but to sign a pledge to not raise taxes is a fools game. Where exactly has Gov. Gibbons pledge not to raise taxes got him? A budget shortfall, reduced state services, an education system that's embarrassing compared the the rest of the nation and the federal government scratching it's head wondering why Nevada doesn't take the money alloted to it for help.
I believe there's still waste that can be cut from the budget, but that money would cut too close to home for the governor so he takes it from vital services and education.
It's time to elect someone who's more interested in serving the people of Nevada rather than clubbing with a playboy model.
only in Rory's dreams. no more reids.
So Larry, how much money that we don't have do we need to spend rounding up and deporting the illegal aliens? I'm not wild about amnesty, it's that whole "illegal" part of illegal alien. But there are enough people that could be contributing members of American society that I'm willing to give them a chance.
1. They pay a fine for being here illegally.
2. They apply for legal citizenship and learn English.
3. In their application they agree to stay off long term public assistance or they will be deported.
4. They have a sponsor who will be responsible for them, just like anyone else applying for citizenship.
5. They do not have a criminal record and do not break the law for at least 7 years or they will be deported.
6. They pay their taxes and are productive members of the community.
7. The money they earn here stays in the United States or a tariff is charged for money sent "back home".
If they can do those things what would be the harm in letting them stay? They want to be here because they're chasing the same American dream we are. And if the argument is that they're taking jobs away from Americans, if they are allowed to be Americans then they would be American jobs.
Anbody but another Reid. The Reids' have done enough damage to our state for far too long.
Hey AmericanMan...
I hope you are sitting down, because I agree with most of what you post.
I would just like to see our borders sealed up good and tight BEFORE we start any kind amnesty program.
absolutely, Larry.and change that age old law.
WOOOOAH!
Jupiter has aligned with Mars!
I agree with Larry AND LIPTON,
agreeing with AmericanMan.
See, we ain't all that far apart, at the end of the day.
The Sun & The RJ have been going out of their merry way to marginalize ALL the candidates for Governor.
The completely ignore all but the candidates who their reporters support and/or were paid off under the table by the likes of Sandoval and Reid.
But what they are missing is these two rags will not be in business if either Reid, Sandoval, Gibbons or Montadon get elected. The Sun is a zombie paper, living on largess from the Green whatever family, but they lost $300 MILLION in the meltdown. And in the next meltdown will go the way of the DODO bird.
The RJ is bleeding out faster than a slaughtered pig. Advertising is dropping faster than a rock dropped into the Grand Canyon.
The state budget is going to be $3 BILLION in the RED. All the hype, pandering and belief in the NO TAX tooth fairy will NOT solve the problem.
Gibbons has trashed the state from day one. Rory Reid has trashed Clark County. It's doubtful either one could pass the lowest math class at CSN.
But you have a choice if you are a Democrat. You can vote for Fred Conquest.
If you are a Republican you can vote for Tony Atwood or Stan Lusak.
If you are GREEN there is Dave Curtis.
If you are a Libertarian, there is Art Lampitt.
If you are an American Independent you have a choice in Floyd Fitzgibbons.
And Geno DeSimone and Art Honig are also in the race.
No matter who you vote for your will be making a choice of a lifetime. You will be voting for POVERTY if you vote for Gibbons, Reid, Sandoval, or Montandon.
A vote for ANY one of the alternatives is at least a chance at survival. And for sure if you vote for me, you will live in a very prosperous state in less than one year.
Fred Conquest
Democratic Candidate for Governor
www.fredconquest.com
American man......the money we save will easily deport the illegals. Then they can work on coming here legally. If they leave on their own, they are welcome back, when they do it legally. If we have to round them up, then they are not ever welcome back.
And remember fellow Nevadans.....2 reids, do not make a right. The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree.
gmag, immigration isn't the issue, "illegal" is.they are breaking laws, and instead of punishment, which is what every "legal" citizen gets for breaking the law, This admin wants to reward them and WE pay the price.
immigration has been broken for decades. Many presidents, many governors, and none have succeeded. Some laws have been changed, but never enforced. but the intent was good. and now you can see why. Look at whats happening. threat of profiling, threat of suits, violations of rights. there's always some do-gooder, some sleezy lawyer,some sue happy jerk, that twists the law and finds that loop hole, and these law breakers walk, and I'm convinced if it weren't for the illegals, our states would be in much better shape, financially.amnesty, is not the answer, at least before the laws are changed,borders secure and E-Verify in place.
In my day there were honorable men to vote for. What a joke for Nevada. Are there not more candidates than these two clowns running for governor? I would vote none of the above if these are the only two.