A man in a chicken costume pickets before a UNLV College Republicans event at UNLV on Tuesday, April 20, 2010. The protest was in reference to U.S. Senate candidate Sue Lowden’s suggestion that patients barter with their doctors for health care. The College Republicans endorsed Lowden at the event.
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- Harry Reid takes on Sue Lowden early, hoping labor is listening (3-14-2010)
- Sue Lowden files for U.S. Senate seat to battle Harry Reid (3-1-2010)
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Sue Lowden’s campaign for U.S. Senate has hit a crisis this week.
The Republican front-runner to unseat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid reiterated a much-ridiculed idea she floated recently that consumers should “barter” for health care.
Now those comments have gone viral — in Internet lexicon — becoming the subject of withering blog attacks and YouTube videos.
Here’s what she said on the Reno TV show “Nevada Newsmakers”: “You know, before we all started having health care, in the olden days our grandparents, they would bring a chicken to the doctor; they would say ‘I’ll paint your house.’ I mean, that’s the old days of what people would do to get health care with your doctors. Doctors are very sympathetic people. I’m not backing down from that system.”
It was an attack ad that wrote itself — short, humorous and filled with visual imagery, including chickens and house painters.
Bartering — trading a good or service for another good or service — is alive and well on websites such as craigslist, and as the Lowden campaign pointed out, in doctors’ offices across Nevada and the country.
Still, that would seem to be more of a symptom of the nation’s health care problems, not a potential solution, as Lowden spokesman Robert Uithoven acknowledged Wednesday.
Lowden, a wealthy casino owner, risks seeming out of touch, which would be a damaging development because Republicans planned on using that line of attack on Reid.
“Her whole argument is that Reid is out of touch,” said David Damore, UNLV political scientist.
Jennifer Duffy, analyst with the Cook Political Report, said Lowden’s comments are defensible but badly framed. “It doesn’t strike me as a difficult thing to push back on, yet Democrats have been feasting on this for almost two weeks,” she said.
The pushback, if tardy, has begun.
Uithoven said, “If people want to see Sue Lowden’s plan, it’s been on the website since November, when Harry Reid was using Nevada taxpayer dollars to bribe other senators to support his health care plan Nevadans didn’t want.” Uithoven was referring to deals Reid engineered to help the home states of senators in return for their votes for the health care legislation. The deals were later rescinded.
Lowden’s health care plan, aside from her offhand suggestions about bartering, includes tort reform to make it harder to sue doctors for medical malpractice; allowing consumers to buy health insurance across state lines; and proposals making it easier for small businesses and individuals to buy health insurance.
Her website appears to have been invaded, if results from a poll on the site are a guide. It asks the question, “Do you think government-run health care will improve the quality of our care?” As of late Wednesday, a surprising 60 percent, or more than 13,000 respondents, said “Yes.”
Also surprising, Lowden’s chief Republican opponents — Danny Tarkanian, John Chachas and Sharron Angle — haven’t tried to leverage Lowden’s comments.
Duffy said such an attack wouldn’t play that well in a Republican primary. Damore said he suspects the other candidates are preserving their resources in advance of the June 8 primary.
Uithoven said he looked forward to a full discussion of health care during the campaign: “We’re happy to debate Harry Reid about his vision for health care reform against our vision of health care reform,” he said.
“He hasn’t been here much in the past 30 years, and we’re happy to bring him around to doctors who are also small businessmen and businesswomen and have them explain to Reid how they negotiate lower prices to avoid insurance hassles and government-run health care.”
What the blogosphere is saying about Sue Lowden
• Steve Benen of Washington Monthly: It’s a permanent credibility-killer ... Remember, the health care debate lasted a very long time. Lowden, who has been running for the Senate for nearly as long, has had plenty of time to carefully craft her message on health care policy. This is what she’s come up with. Better yet, after becoming the subject of ridicule last week, Lowden had a chance to clarify this into a position that’s less preposterous. Instead, she made it worse.
I’m trying to imagine how Lowden thinks this should work. Treating a mundane ailment — say, a sore throat — can cost a chicken. But how, exactly, does she imagine families pay for more serious treatments? What should Nevadans expect to bring to the doctor in exchange for an MRI exam? Or an emergency appendectomy? Or chemotherapy? Should the senior citizen who just had hip-replacement surgery offer to start painting the doctor’s house?
• The Economist: It’s not clear how far Ms. Lowden wants to take this idea of widening the barter economy, but it could have far-reaching ramifications, not just for health care reform but for financial-sector reform as well. For example, payment in kind would eliminate many of the risky innovations that led to the financial crisis. It would be virtually impossible to structure a chicken-based CDO; sure, you could find buyers for the breast tranche easily enough, but who would take all those necks and feet? Leverage rules become much less necessary when you can only hedge with items that actually exist; it’s hard to imagine the notional value of chicken-based hedges greatly exceeding the number of actual chickens on the planet. And all this could be accomplished without any new taxes.
• Liberal political blog Firedoglake: Like most Americans, I don’t have any chickens at home, nor do I have much other items of value that a doctor would be likely to take in lieu of cash. I suppose I could buy a chicken, but at that point, you’re just adding a step, really. I’m thinking a KFC Double Down might even yield a full surgery as opposed to what you could get from an uncooked chicken, but what do I know, I’m not running for Senate. I think the general consensus from the non-crazy portion of the electorate is that we’ve advanced from the time when we bartered for goods, and that has generally been a societal positive ...This will reach a tipping point if Lowden’s Republican rivals start using it against her.
• Ben Smith of Capitol Hill’s Politico: When Sue Lowden ... first made the case for paying doctors with chickens, rather than checks from the insurance company, it drew the obvious immediate mockery ...Somewhat to my surprise, however, this isn’t a gaffe: It’s a policy statement. Lowden’s communications director is defending barter in a statement to Greg Sargent, and the campaign is also circulating a long background document that aims to put some substance behind the barter plan. Most of the substance of the document is on the broader subject of negotiating with doctors, not the narrower one of livestock exchange, so it’s not entirely on point.
• L.A. Times blogger Richard Metzger: Wanna see your doctor but have no money? No problem, just bring your doctor a chicken! Don’t have the dosh for smokes? Trade the local shop for some pocket lint! Want a new car? Bring in those comics and baseball cards! What is this woman thinking?






So we have Lowden bartering chickens, Reid sucking up to illegals. Seems both these two are out of touch. Lived here for 36 years and wonder whats in the water that makes politicians in this state like they are.Still say Tark may be best but at this point who knows.
the union must step up against sue lowden. lowden is union hater
hey heart surgeon can u fix my heart. i wash your car for you. what a moron. that would gibbon suggest
You couldn't possibly MAKE THIS STUFF UP!!!
No one would believe you. Thank you, Sue!
DEAR DOCTOR,
I'll trade you a carton of smokes for a look-see at my anus. Spread them around. I'm sure your nurse, receptionist, landlord, suppliers, etc. will take a pack as THEIR payment... thanks!
Sue Lowden...You are a LIFE SAVER!
MSNBC gave a bunch of air time to it as well.
The next target should be the sawdust on the floor nature of her casino interets.
"I painted the doctor's office after I broke my arm in Santa Barbara" was a Sean Hannity taking point during the healthcare debate. Thank you nut talk radio, you really know how to help the Republicans.
I suspect the morning blowhards will be in overdrive to prop Lowden up.
The fact Sue Lowdon said something that sounds ridiculous doesn't change the fact that Harry Reid is out of touch too. As for me (registered Republican) I wasn't crazy about Lowden (just as I'm not crazy about Sarah Palin) to begin with and had no great desire to see her representing Nevada in the senate. Maybe we can now move on to someone more serious.
RHG...
Whom?
Let the poor people barter for their medical care while we lower taxes for millionaires. That's how Republicans think!
Maybe I'm missing something here, but it seems the Republican campaign here is to discuss their idea of health care reform after health care reform has passed into law already. It just seems like Ms. Sue Lowden is carrying forth the Republican Party line they are bitter. So, the stalwart Republican she is, she just attacks Senator Reid on a law that will benefit people.
And on top of this argument their camp is throwing out there that the bill passed into law will go nowhere, but her rocket scientist idea of health care reform is something thought up about 100 years ago. And it appears her view is some kind of idea originated in some third world country. When the American people want something good replaced, they want something of value to replace it with. This sounds more like the Republicans are madder than hell that Senator Reid will go down in history as making sure EVERY American has the inalienable right to fair, adequate and comprehensive health care. A right. Not a privilege. Talk about sore losers. Ms. Sue Lowden's camp wants to pound propaganda into the people to get their votes that it's good to hate Senator Reid, but not give them anything of value as a replacement.
And at the same time health care reform is catching on, Ms. Sue Lowden complains that Senator Reid will go "negative" in his campaign against her.
In other words, play martyr now and the common folk who have nothing in common with the casino owning millionaire Republican candidate will sympathize with her and give her votes. This seems to be real hypocrisy to fool people into getting their votes. The truth is she will continue to go "negative" herself on Senator Reid, while at the same time, complain, whine, scream and howl that Senator Reid is going "negative" on her. And I also predict she will be flinging darts at Senator Reid's dart board like crazy, hoping something sticks that will benefit her.
My main point is I see Ms. Sue Lowden has nothing in common with the average Nevadan and she has nothing to offer except empty promises. I just hope the Nevadan voters all see this idiocy. Ms. Sue Lowden has everyone focusing on inconsequential things and not the issues, and certainly not the facts. And she also plays heavily on this strategy that voters want nothing except to see Senator Reid voted out, and she wishes to capitalize on the notion if they vote him out, she is more than happy to nudge people aside to take over his Senate seat. And to complicate everything, you have a multitude of right wing people and Republican back organizations all slamming into Senator Reid...and they are not even from Nevada! I guess it's fashionable to hate Senator Reid. Especially if you're an ultra conservative right winger.
When you sit back and wait for the smoke and fog to dissipate, there is only one choice for a vote that is best for Nevada: Senator Reid. He DOES things.
That's the way I see it....
RHG...
Whom?
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Kind of leaning towards Tarkanian, but I need to hear more from him. Come on Danny, now's the time to step up.
If you need to hear from Danny just watch FOX and Beck and Hannity and listen to Rush that's where his talking points originate.
For that matter the barter for healthcare is Ms. Lowden's only original idea.
So where do the Doctor's keep the chickens and goats? And how many times a year do we paint their houses?
just when you thought the stupid pathetic ugly lying always making a threat or fear mongering republicans couldn't offer up a candidate dumber than sarah dumb as a bag of rocks palin...
low and behold...
here comes sue no experience and no brains lowden...
hee hee hee...
hoo hoo hoo...
haa haa haa...
be proud stupid pathetic ugly lying always making as threat or fear mongering republicans...
be very proud...
If you need to hear from Danny just watch FOX and Beck and Hannity and listen to Rush that's where his talking points originate.
For that matter the barter for healthcare is Ms. Lowden's only original idea.
So where do the Doctor's keep the chickens and goats? And how many times a year do we paint their houses?
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Yeah, unlike people like you who to get their "talking points" and "original ideas" from MSNBC.
Lowden has embraced Hannity's "rip off the troops" veteran's charity. This ought to be interesting.
I bet MSNBC has 100 reporters in Nevada covering politics..
This is some demonstration by Reid's rapidly dwindling supporters. The guy in the ble cap looks like one of the egg throwers from Searchlight and the other guy looks like a day laborer from outside Home Depot.
Sharron Angle for Senate!
Headline should read, "Lowden chokes on chickens for healthcare idea."
New Lowdown campaign slogan --
"Elect Sue and get a private health care savings account in your very own backyard!"
RHG,
Actually, the comment was meant to highlight the fact that Danny T. continually and ad-nauseum parrots the talking points of the RushBecks.
If Tark wants to become a legitimate contender, he may have to do SOMETHING, ANYTHING besides read the pablum over, and over, over.
RHG, I think it would be much more constructive for Nevada and for the race in general if the Republicans could come up with a candidate that had an ounce of originality or a scintilla of sense.
They have yet to put one forward, that I am aware of.
I'm starting to believe the Republican Party thought that ANYONE could beat Harry Reid in November.
History would indicate otherwise.
To LastThroes: Good one! Thanks for giving me my first laugh of the day....
Another appropriate good campaign slogan would be that tired and over used tourist phrase you hear in casinos....
WINNER! WINNER! CHICKEN DINNER!
What would the exchange rate be Sue?
About 45 chickens per office visit?
Or 1/2 a house painted for a mammogram plus the office visit?
Dang, she makes a pornstar sound smart. Barter? ROFLMAO!!!
Reid will be O.K.
The voters will be getting campaign reminders of what the Bushies did to this country.
With health care passed, and the economy turning (slowly) around, the voters won't be looking to go back to the right wing Gibbons/ C Street Ensign types who brought us down this path!
Witness the Republicans siding with Wall Street in the next great debate on financial reform. This is gonna be a boon for Senator Reid and many Democrats!
Republicans = party of NO WE CAN'T!
Stuart & Robert Wyman-Cahall
Las Vegas, NV 89142
Our friends from the left are having a good laugh at Sue Lowden's expense.
That's good, but the best laugh is the last laugh and that one will come November 2th.
I hope all you Liberals, maintain the same good sense of humor when Harry Reid is put out to pasture in Searchlight.
It's Nevada right? Gibbons would suggest woman exchange sex for breast implants...
Funny how everyone missed the point Sue was trying to make. Remove government from health care and the free market will find even ground. Allow us to shop for insurance, shop for hospitals and doctors and see the results.
Also, ever notice when you see a bumper sticker that says, ( LIVE BETTER WORK UNION ) it is always on a piece of crap banged up truck???? How many union guys are in the hall right now??? By the way, Rich people are rich because they worked there ass off. 40 hrs a week is for union people. 60 to 90 hrs a week is for rich people. We pay most of the taxes anyways, Read Steve Wynn's interview on CNBC the other day. That scars the SH#T out of me. Remenber all you 1st and the 15th check receivers, keep bashing the rich and we will move to Costa Rica and let you pay for your own maedical. ATT 1 billion write off for health care up costs??????? The stock dropped .30 cents.
A new term has been coined to label all of you Liberals who are so concerned with chickens...
CHICKEN LIBERALS!!!
I don't get what this so called "health care" fuss is all about anyway. Couldn't the little people just mow more lawns or wash more cars perhaps?
--Leona Helmsley
CHICKEN LIBERALS!!! buk buk baaaaaaaaaaak...
Guessed none of them ever worked in the Hotel Casino business. It's called JUICE, and COMPS. Ever wondered what you have to do to stand in front of a Casino and open doors for cabs and limos, and make $250.000 a year, or be the ugliest cocktail waitress on the floor and get the best of everything, and even someone put into a position as floor boss, dealer, or any other good earning job that requires NO talent, experience or education. Well these people are the sons and daughters of the Doctors, Dentist, lawyers. politicians, or any profession that does the Casino owner a favor. This is the Barter system to the wealthy casino owners. Give me a face job, and I will give your screwed up son, and ulgy daughter a job forever.
Colin, glad I made you laugh.
There's a lot of room for comedy in chickensforcheckups.
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Poll from Lowdown website:
Do you think government-run health care will improve the quality of our care?
Yes (67%, 18,274 Votes)
No (33%, 9,007 Votes)
Looks like Larry the paid GOP hack is flooding the comment section again.
It seems to me that Reid's people are pushing for Lowden to win the primary. They see the smokin mad GOP voters in the state will pile on and vote with whomever Reid acts is his biggest challenger.
Therefore, his people start digging into the one person who will completely fall apart once the bright spotlight of politics is on them.
Looks like Reid's people decided that Lowden is that person...and so far she is playing right into their hands...
Everyone should walk into Lowden's casino with chickens and see how much slot play each one is good for. It would help us establish a baseline for her proposed trade with doctors.
But really, health insurance should just be illegal. If you want care, pay for it. Doctors who want to work will accept what people can/will pay. Health insurance is not "insurance" since eventually everyone needs medical care. Health insurance is socialism plain and simple. It's a pooling of resources to make everyone equal.
How many eggs can a CHICKEN LIBERAL lay in one day??? brroock, broock
Wetbike: "Remove government from health care and the free market will find even ground"
If Sue had were capable of formulating a thought even as clear as yours, she would not be a laughing stock right now. She displays a fundamental misunderstanding of modern economics, favoring instead an idealized republican dream about how things used to be (but never were). The dream is easier to live (and sell to voters). But Sue, whether by her own hard work or that of others, never has to worry about money or health care.
This is all so silly. Bartering was used by these yesteryear farmers because they didn't have any money- they were outside the cash economy. Imagine if they went to Sue's casinos with a chicken or a pig. Really! I love it when rich people who HAVE INSURANCE are busy telling poor people that they should make do. Sue, never had to worry about medical care, and quite frankly Sue never had a chick [farm] to provide the doctors with chickens. She is spoiled. I bet it is even illegal to raise chickens in most of Clark County.
Sue, what is plan B??? die?????
This is no longer happy talk on TV, Sue. The tragedies of life aren't just your route to an Emmy.
I invite you to my home to show me where to raise the chickens. I invite you to go to the doctor with me and offer up the chicken. I bet LabCorp will also jump at the chance next time I need blood work.
Spoiled rotten, out of touch and insensitive. Sue has it all!
CHICKEN LIBERALS address their head rooster: Barack, barack...
chickensforcheckups is not polling well
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Poll from Lowdown website:
Do you think government-run health care will improve the quality of our care?
Yes (67%, 18,274 Votes)
No (33%, 9,007 Votes)
This woman is the GOP's great hope to be the powerless freshman Senator from Nevada.
http://www.dscc.org/chickens
American goods and services cost so much more because in our country many American business provide and pay for the health insurance of their employees.
Do you think this might have something to do with Steve Wynn maybe moving his corporate headquarters to communist China? LOL....It could be a boon for his business if the commies pick up the health care check!!! LOL!!
We can be real dumb asses sometimes, huh.
Stuart & Robert Wyman-Cahall
Las Vegas, NV 89142
Suzee and the Wannabees could barter with Steve Whine to keep Mr. Whine in Nevada. She could start with a test case in which Mr. Whine would do straightup trade with Jocko Ensign for hair-dos. If Suzee pulls that off then she could work on moving Mr. Whine's World HQ to Rhyolite in exchange for imploding the "Whine" and the "Encorpse." This could add a lot to Ms. Suzee's credibility.
If her bartering skills fail her maybe Suzee could run for office in Macau and be there to place the "green hat" on Mr. Whine. If she wins, she could hire Jocko to be her chief of staff and set him up in a group home just over the border in the People's Republic, where the PLA could provide adult supervision. It may be a tough choice for Jocko - a PLA Group Home in the comforting presence of Mr. Whine and Suzee or the Rhyolite TV Evangelism program with Jimbo Gibbons.
"Lowden, a wealthy casino owner, risks seeming out of touch..."
Done deal, this casino owner wagered and lost big time. Can't this state generate any higher quality candidates than this?
I believe that a bartered transaction is also a taxable event. How does she propose that the taxes on the bartered transaction be paid?
What a list, the party of NO (brains).
Dubya
Palin
Bachmann
Lowden
Ensign
Gibbons
Uncle Larry:
Can you get back to me on this please?
What is the protocol for bringing chickens to the doctors office? Should they be alive? If so, will there be a chickencoop in the back of every docs office? Can I just import them from Arkansas or somewhere in America?
If they need to be cooked, should I add BBW sauce for an extra X-Ray or two?
This is very important now Larry, what are you doing to protect the borders from being overrun by illegal immigrant chicken. Can we get them papers upon birth? I really do NOT want to over burden the Arizona police departments having to determine the country of origin of the chickens (republican lawmakers who passed the bill) because I am sure there will be a massive number of dead chickens all over Arizona what with the preponderance of open carry proponents there. Once they get word of the Mexican Chickens crossing the border to be used for improper bartering (You will advocate for only American chickens, right?) There will be the greatest sight of flying feathers since Jim Gibbons was left alone with one of John Ensigns Showgirls...
The end result of this whole debacle has not done well for the Nevadan Republican Party.
From watching news shows both local and national last night Ms. Sue Lowden's insane comment has ended up with her unanimously being labeled a laughing stock, an embarassment to the Sovereign State of Nevada.
And some pointed out how the esteemed Senator Ensign's fund raising efforts for the first quarter of 2010 with him receiving only two $25.00 donations from the same guy in New Jersey. Another embarassment to us. He acts like he just hopes it will all go away and not result in him being booted out of the Senate and/or led away in handcuffs.
Which basically proves what I have already thought: The Republican Party in Nevada (including the Love Dove Gove Gibbons' shenanigans in his private life mixed with trying to file a frivolous lawsuit about the new health care reform law) is basically dead. And if it isn't dead, they really are diseased and need to wander around aimlessly in the desert quarantined for the next generation or so...to basically wake up and smell the coffee, come down to earth and figure out how best to serve Nevada and stop this nonsense about they just want to be in power, serve the rich, screw the poor, destroy the middle class and come up with no clue on how to govern and lead.
Larry, I hardly ever agree with your politics, and I don't know what you've said to get your comments removed by staff.
Just stay on message, I would miss you here.
Stuart & Robert Wyman-Cahall
Las Vegas, NV 89142
"Wealthy casino owner." Didn't Ms. Lowden marry the wealthy casino owner when she was the news reader on the local TV news? That isn't self-made wealth by a savvy business woman, it's a matter marrying a person with existing money.
If you go to Sue Lowdens website and read her healthcare reform ideas you will not find one original idea on that page. All you will find is the same LAME talking points that the stupid republicons have been pushing for the past year. They are all empty and fail miserably at solving the problem of 40 million uninsured people.
Folks every once in a while a politician will put their foot in their mouth, but Sue Lowden's refusal to back away from her comments shows that she lacks good judgement and common sense. It also shows that she is out of touch with people who are really struggling with being dropped because they got sick. Or their child is born with a preexisting condition and therefore the family ends up in bankruptcy. Sue Lowden has a silver spoon in her mouth. She doesnt need to worry about the lower and middle class. She got hers so screw you attitude is not what I want in washington
Harry Reid is definitely a class act and knowledgable and CARES!
OMG, does Nevada get its share of nut case Republicans or what.
@adam "Doctors who want to work will accept what people can/will pay..."You seem like a bright guy in some of your comments. But how many doctors have you called that will work with you if you don't have all the cash or the insurance? It USED to be that way. But I'd say for 95% of them it's cash or insurance on the barrel head or better luck next time.
And one more thought - if "Doctors who want to work will accept what people can/will pay" then maybe they will take the chickens? (Of course, being Jewish and going to a Jewish doctor I'd make sure it's a Kosher chicken.)
Instead of cash people should donate goods to Sue Lowden's campaign and see if she can barter her way through the campaign.
TeamLarry,
Poor gal committed poli-suicide; Was she feeling ill lately?
Were signs ignored? poor thing. Well, theres still the Tea Party Gal from Space, and that young TARK fella who walks around with RepubSpeak cue-cards; is he a PARROT?
Dear Sue,
Insert foot in mouth HERE!
NO! The OTHER FOOT!
AH! they FIT!!!
LastThroes, HOW'S THE POLLING GOING?
"WARNING - LarryV - you may lose your posting privilidges if you do not watch your name calling and pigeon holing ... it would be ashame to lose you and all the laughs you provide"...
Yes, Lar... "pigeon holing" is very dangerous stuff indeed! Well heck, you KNOW that, right???
That stuff is BENEATH YOU, Larry. Practice your preaching.
Chicken Soup, today's Lunch Special!
Larry, would you care to lead us in prayer?
It is all right for the Liberal posters to the LV SUN to call the Tea Party supporters vulgar names, but don't call the Liberals who have the mindset of a bunch of chickens, CHICKEN LIBERALS...
Does Lowden want to move Medicare to her barter system too?
Hmmmm...
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Imagine all across America our nursing homes for the elderly would be surrounded by chickenwire fences to prevent valuable flocks of healthcare poultry from running onto busy streets and being hit by startled motorist.
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Clearly Lowden's plan is a crisis waiting to hatch. Something tells me chickens4checkups just won't fly.
Did Larry have FIVE vulgar comments removed from a single Sun story? Wow, new record, buddy!
You know that "chicken" has vulgar definitions, too, right?
Conservatives who are holding the CHICKEN LIBERALS accountable for their discretions, will from this day forward, will be called CHICKEN HAWKS...
gmag -- glad you asked.
The latest polling from Lowden's website shows...wait,
It appears the Lowden campaign
HAS ENDED THE C4C POLLING...
probably due to results which were wrong.
In my professional opinion, I think This woman is delusional. We already have enough delusional Senators in Washington DC. Chickens for health care? Paint your house for a high colonic. What would a finger wave cost me?
I have a great idea, everyone pay for their own health care. WOW. How about everyone paying the same amount of taxes, WOW.
5 guys walk into a bar. 3 have no money, one has $15, one has $ 100. Beer cost $ 5D.
The first three say, I feel that I don't have to pay for beer because I have no money. The bar tender says ok, you get free beer. The forth guy orders a beer and says I feel that I can only pay $ 2.50 a beer because $ 5 a beer is way to high. The bar tender says ok and heads over to the 5th guy, he orders a beer, the bartender charges him $ 22.50 for his beer. The 5th guy ask's how come my beer costs so much??? The bartender says you have the money, this way everyone can drink. The next night, the same 4 guys come into the bar and order the same beer. third guy is charged $ 20.00. He asked why is my beer so expensive?? The bartender says you can afford it, you have the money.He pays the tab and leaves. The next night the same three guys come into the bar and orders a beer, the bartender says that will be $ 15.00 D. All three say sorry, we have no money, where is the rich guy and the middle class guy. The bartender says they don't come here any more.The three guys say that it is our right to have beer, the bartender says ok. The next night the same three guys go to the bar and it is closed due to the ecnonmy. If you think it's a good idea for the Steve Wynn's of the world to leave this state, you are out of your mind. I hope you enjoy your one bedroom walk up on your SS check. Looser, You try to run a business and be nice guy all the time. Good luck with that. You will be out of business in six months.
I suggest donations to Sue Lowden's campaign be in the form of CHICKENS. "YOU barter, Sue, if you think it's such a great idea!" And "don't back down", insist your creditors take payment in chickens. The woman is a national joke. It's bad enough Gibbons and Ensign has the nation thinking we're idiots....now Lowden? I'll be voting Senator Reid. He's stared down Wall Street, called out McConnell for his flip-flops on financial reform, had the guts to pass health insurance reform knowing many Nevadans were brainwashed by the health insurance industry's billions spent on deceptive hype. The man from Searchlight has guts. My vote belongs to you, Harry, because you put Nevada first.
The fee market of health care has been taking care of it self for the last 100 years. That is why it went from barter to paying cool hard cash to health insurance. This is the health care market. At its best. Im required by the courts as is every person that gets a divorce in Nevada to have health insurance on my kids. And when I called the court and asked if I could raise chickens for my health care, or if I could just sign a waver agreeing to paint my Pediatricians home for her. I was told no. So if Sue Lowden would call the Family Court and explain to them this barter system. So that I could move on with this New Health Care Program it would be great.
Larry, you are now officially trolling for trouble. I predict you will succeed.
Actually, perhaps we should be thankful for Sue Lowden. Until now, Republicans have had zero ideas on how we can reform health care. Sue is first Republican that has come forward with something to offer. For that, she deserves some credit. Now, the bartering idea, well... there is some work needed.
gmager...
I would rather go down as a CHICKEN HAWK then be known as a CHICKEN LIBERAL...
Jat3714...after reading your post, I am going to ask every cashier I come across, "Now, how many chickens do I owe you?" Cos that's how we roll in Nevada! Too funny.
Sign for our cars: "WILL WORK FOR CHICKENS." Ha-ha-ha..
Lowdumb's comments work so well in focus groups composed of Republicants. Why do they get such hate when scrutinized by the general public?
Just incredible that the Republicants advance people like this for important elected positions like US Senator.
Larry V., please calm down. Maybe have a nice hot bowl of chicken soup.
As much fun as it is to ridicule Lowden's barter scheme her statements show how far from reality many far-right conservatives are.
Running government is very serious but elected officials aren't required to have common sense or care about the well being of the middle class.
Lowden wants to lead the charge in America's race to the bottom. She, like John Ensign, are not capable of representing anyone but the wealthiest among us.
Thanks for the advice there skerlahdee, but this CHICKEN HAWK is going to have fried chicken, potato salad and a couple of Bud Lights for lunch...
Doesn't get much better than that...
Oh by the way, all this talk about CHICKEN LIBERALS giving up their offspring in exchange for medical care is a bunch of phooey...
Anyone know which office is accepting chicken donations? Have fun kids.
Sue Lowden Las Vegas Office:
6655 S. Tenaya Way, Suite 170
Las Vegas, NV 89113
(702) 302-4097
Sue Lowden Reno Office:
961 Matley Lane, Suite 105
Reno, NV 89502
(775) 473-9068
Poor Larry, he's melting down like a globule of chicken fat...
This will go down in Nevada history along side "Chick" Heck's "nuclear suppository" faux pas.
It is too bad that Tark and Angle probably agree with Lowden, notice they haven't tried to capitalize on her "gizzard gaff."
I agree with Chicken Liberal Mr. Ed, that Sue Lowden is getting a ton of name recognition from this fowl story...
"ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST"
Starring: Jack Nicholson
Leading Lady: Sue Lowden
Plot: Take Back Our Country, as far back as we
can.
I agree with Larry. From now on, when we hear the name "Lowden" every voter in the nation will think "Chicken-Swapper!" Just when you think it can't get funnier......
@Larry
Do you even know what a "Chicken Hawk" is? It's great - and wholly not a surprise - that you consider your self one, but this much honesty out of you is surprising. Keep it up.
The question is, exactly what kind of "Chicken Hawk" are you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenhawk...)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenhawk...)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Haw...
Yes, ThisOneGuy, I know what a Chicken Hawk is, and I even know some good jokes about them.
The modern day Chicken Hawk keeps the Chicken Liberals in check...
Larry, as a liberal, I would like to say that the presidential candidate I voted for in 2008 doesn't have to invent a reason to start an unnecessary war so that he can try to demonstrate that he is a man and not a coward. If you think I am referring to his predecessor in the White House, well, THERE was someone Sue could have used to barter with her doctor.
Huh???
Huh, comment number 100? Cool.
Can't count. How many chickens would it take to get some remedial math classes?
Uncle Larry.
It looks like you've been plucked today. I would avoid hot tubs until your feathers grow back in.
Does that hurt as much as it seems like it would?
Mr "Vulgar Names! AAARRGGHH!!" Larry is now calling himself a 'chicken hawk?'
I... I have nothing to say that wouldn't be removed by the Sun. Someone get that boy a slang dictionary.
Lowden's self-inflicted damage continues, days after the gaffe... I hope we get a few great campaign ads out of this.
chicken hawk
The term is meant to indicate that the person in question is cowardly or hypocritical for personally avoiding combat in the past while advocating that others go to war in the present. Generally, the implication is that "chickenhawks" lack the experience, judgment, or moral standing to make decisions about going to war.
Poor larry, even a stopped clock is right twice a day
Nevada conservative leader Chuck Muth says Lowden needs to send out an "SOS" due to her campaign's utter incompetence.
http://www.muthstruths.com/2010/04/22/th...
He calls this her "fuster-cluck-cluck-cluck."
This is everywhere. Lowden has completely fallen on her face.
Self-inflicted damage is the worst kind, Sue.
http://cheezburger.com/View/3444704256
I do believe that GOP supporters are clinging not to their guns and religion, but to bumper-sticker slogans, their pride and their anger. With every passing day that the President improves health care, ends Wall Street bail outs, improves our reputation in the world, negotiates arms control, etc. etc., those that hate his success, his capable leadership, the respect with which he speaks to all Americans (even those who don't treat him in kind) are left secretly embarrassed by the circus atmosphere and nonsensical political positions they hold. It's hard to admit they've been made a fool of and realize all that effort and anger was misplaced. These people are clinging to the pig-in-the-poke they were sold, while the country moves on. They are angry at being so wrong. They succumbed to the propaganda, the show-business and the rabble-rousing, and it hangs around their necks like a dead weight. I think President Obama is right to just keep moving steadily forward. As with petulant children, when these voters realize things are looking much better in this country, their voices will fall silent and they will eventually come around: not because we've convinced them, but because they see it for themselves. Now I must go feed my chickens...
Uncle Lar and Auntie Sue, capable of putting both feet in their GAPING MAWS at the same time; NEAT TRICK... But WHY???
I do believe it's a cry for attention.
"look what I said; isn't it OUTRAGEOUS!?!?!"
Sorry Jeff, The LV SUNS Gestapo did not like my response to you about plucked chickens. It was a good one. I hope you got a chance to read it before it was censored...
Of course it is acceptable to the LV SUNS Gestapo for posters to use vulgar names to describe the Tea Party supporters.
Larry, another definition for chicken hawk is...
Oh, never mind, this is too much fun.
So you're a chicken hawk, are you?
I'm wondering how many chickens Sue would have to give her doctor so she can get her head examined. Even more, I'm concerned about people who would still support her after this exposure of her political capacity. This state is already embarrassed enough by Ensign and Gibbons, do we need a Sue Lowden in the Senate?
By the way, poll today at suelowden.com asked: "Do you think government-run health care will improve the quality of our care?" The tally (at the time I voted earlier today)was:
* Yes (67%, 18,325 Votes)
* No (33%, 9,014 Votes)
Total voters: 27,339
This was even after she weighted the poll by calling health care reform "government-run health care." Let Sue ask how many favor bartering for health care vs. the health care reform that Harry Reid worked so hard and so long to bring us, despite Republican obstruction.
Okra...
I just looked up chicken hawk on the urban dictionary. Their off colored definition of the word is not good. Maybe I should drop the chicken hawk handle. I could not find any other handle that did not a vulgar connotation...
I don't want to be known as a chicken hawk or a chicken spanker...
My theory is that Lowden's daily beauty rituals leave her no time to study the talking points cut and pasted on her website, so she says whatever pops into her mind on the campaign trail. Although equally unprepared to understand major policy, at least Tark memorized the GOP anti health care slogans. Lowden is absolutely unqualified to serve in the US Senate.
Appears to me that Sue Lowden is qualified to serve in the U.S. Senate...
No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.
Larry...lol
I may be a lib but i'm an online bud...i woulda spared you that whole chicken-hawk stupidity!
lol.
Stuart & Robert Wyman-Cahall
Las Vegas, NV 89142
Stuart...
I guess my age is showing on my lack of knowledge on all of the current slang...
Thanks...
Too late Larry.
From now on LarryChickenhawk (or abbv LCH) is your name. Live with it.
I guess harry reid is the only republican left.
@Larry,
I posted links to the various definitions of the term for you, don't you click on my links?
dippy...
I will take a couple pounds of them there chicken gizzards. Bread and fry them suckers up and serve them hot with a couple of beers and one is in heaven.
I think the Rooster is laying low since there are so many chicken liberals running around today with nets.
Darn dippy, you have made me hungry and thirsty. I don't have any chicken gizzards, but I do have some pickled eggs to have with my beer.
By the way, where do pickled eggs come from? From old chicken liberals who have a half rotten outlook on life???
ThisOneGuy... Your definition was not much better than the vulgar one that I found.
I still have a good chicken hawk though...
How about: I still have a good chicken hawk joke...
"By the way, where do pickled eggs come from? From old chicken liberals who have a half rotten outlook on life???"
No, that is where Easter eggs come from.
You're almost being human today Lar. Maybe we could have a pickled egg summit. Now Lets hear that joke,
LarryVegas-AKA-henderson wrote: "Conservatives who are holding the CHICKEN LIBERALS accountable for their lack of taste (get it?), will from this day forward, will be called CHICKEN HAWKS..."
--[... 4 hours later ...]--
I don't want to be known as a chicken hawk or a chicken spanker..."
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OK, I think I can cut you some slack on the "chicken spanker" since that was never part of your decree, but I'm leaning towards "no takesees backsies" on your recently appropriated "chicken hawk" title.
But that's just me. Maybe you can poll the "CHICKEN LIBERALS" and post the results.
I think everyone should look up some words in the Urban Dictionary.
Chicken: A kilogram of cocaine. Dealers started calling kilos "birds" which then evolved into "chicken."
Use in sentence:
Person 1) How much you got left?
Person 2) A quarter chicken.
Does the statements from Sue Lowden make more since now? She is saying to pay the doctor bill with your stash of Cocaine.
Chicken Hawk:
A Gay term for an older man that constantly chases after younger men typically in their 20's.
The heterosexual equivalent is the Cougar.
Use in sentence:
Alberto is such a Chicken Hawk. He was hanging out at the coffee shop again trying to pick up skateboarders half his age!
Active1...
If I was hanging out at a coffee shop trying to pick up skateboarders half of my age, I probably would be waiting for quite a while for a skateboarder who was in his thirty's...
Besides you would never catch me hanging out at a coffee shop. A bar, maybe...
Oh Perry, I never knew...
Cinderella may want to consider changing her name...
Larry...
Outhouse; latrine; an outdoor toilet.
"It's your turn to clean the Larry today."
I just can't win for losing today...
Lowden reminds me of Senator Chic Hecht and his
"nuclear suppository".