Wednesday, April 7, 2010 | 2 a.m.
Gov. Jim Gibbons
Catherine Cortez Masto
Brian Sandoval
Sun archives
- AG: Gibbons overstepped with plan to sue over health reform (4-6-2010)
- Report: Gibbons will join lawsuit over health care reform (4-2-2010)
- AG won’t file health reform suit; Gibbons vows to stop ‘intrusion’ (3-30-2010)
- Gibbons wants AG’s answer on health bill suit by next week (3-25-2010)
- AG says governor can’t force lawsuit over health care reform (3-24-2010)
- Dean Heller joins Gibbons in urging AG to sue over health reform (3-23-2010)
- Obama signs historic $938 billion health overhaul (3-23-2010)
New federal health care legislation seems to have breathed more life into Gov. Jim Gibbons’ re-election campaign.
After weeks of attacking the health insurance mandate in politically charged news releases, Gibbons announced Tuesday that Nevada will join 14 states in a lawsuit challenging the law — a move that will surely appeal to conservative voters in the contested Republican primary.
At a news conference in his Las Vegas office, Gibbons positioned himself as a constitutional warrior against what he described as the “Reid/Pelosi/Obama Nationalized Health Care Law,” taking up the matter by executive order over the objections of Attorney General Catherine Cortez Masto, who rejected his request to sue.
Ironically, in doing so, he has set up his own constitutional showdown; Cortez Masto said Gibbons was overstepping his authority and is considering legal action against the governor.
The events carry a thick overlay of election-year politics, as the lawsuit is a rallying point for conservatives and the anti-establishment Tea Party movement animating the Republican primary here.
Indeed, Mark Hutchison, Gibbons’ special legal counsel, acknowledged Nevada would bring little more than its name to the lawsuit. The states are challenging the law on basic constitutional grounds, arguing that the Democratic-controlled Congress and President Barack Obama overstepped the bounds by requiring Americans to purchase health insurance.
Most of the states’ suits have been brought by Republican officials, some of whom are seeking higher office.
For his part, Gibbons denied the move had anything to do with politics.
“The Constitution is primary and supersedes any consideration of politics,” he said, adding the bill will cost Nevadans $2.4 billion in new federal and state taxes. “Whenever there is a violation of the Constitution, it cuts across political boundaries.”
Still, political observers said the move fits Gibbons’ strategy of using his office to bolster his conservative bona fides.
As David Damore, a UNLV political scientist, put it: “The last couple of months you’ve seen the resurrection of Jim Gibbons.”
Some background:
At the start of the campaign, the governor suffered from abysmal approval ratings, struggled to raise money and watched the political establishment forsake him for his chief rival, former federal Judge Brian Sandoval. His personal problems, including a messy divorce, dominated the headlines.
When Gibbons filed for re-election, he was asked how he would overcome his lack of money. “I will run hard, give lots of speeches and shake as many hands as I can,” he said.
And Gibbons busted out of the gates, using the bully pulpit to aggressively pursue what UNR political scientist Eric Herzik called a “conservative’s reform agenda,” including a call for school vouchers and the repeal of collective bargaining rights for public employees.
He then convened a special session of the Legislature to plug the state’s $800 million budget hole. After three years and two regular sessions in which he took a hands-off approach, he inserted himself into negotiations to facilitate a deal.
According to public opinion polling, voters are taking notice. Although he still trails Sandoval, Gibbons’ numbers are inching upward.
The lawsuit pre-empted Sandoval’s statewide TV ad buy, which debuts today, and, in an emerging pattern, forced the challenger to support the incumbent’s move. Considered by many to be the more moderate candidate, Sandoval first complained about the cost of the health care bill before echoing Gibbons’ call for a lawsuit.
Challenging the new health care legislation strengthens Gibbons’ connection to conservative voters who could decide the primary, Herzik said.
“That’s Gibbons’ base,” Herzik said of the Tea Party movement. “It makes perfect sense that he would pursue this. He gets to slap Cortez Masto along the way and he gets lots of free media. He couldn’t ask for a better opportunity.”
Gibbons attended a Tea Party rally in Searchlight last month, boasting that he had governed the state by the movement’s anti-tax principles and reined in government spending by cutting programs.
On Tuesday, Gibbons, flanked by his new legal team, reveled in the lawsuit, chiding both the Obama administration and Cortez Masto. It was a performance foreshadowed in seven news releases and media advisories about his opposition to the health care bill issued by his office in the two weeks and two days since it passed.
“I cannot sit idly by and entrust another state with the rights and obligations I have under my oath of office,” he said. “I feel the people of Nevada depend on the Constitution as inviolate, so if I’m going to protect their rights and that wonderful piece of American history called the Constitution, we have to do this. It is a must for the executive branch to undertake this litigation.”
Gibbons engaged in a bit of legislative taunting, suggesting that Congress should refashion a bill with only the “meritorious, nontrespassing” parts of the health care law, as determined by the states. He even downplayed the need for the new legislation, saying the last-resort safety net of the emergency room remained.
“There is no Nevadan that is denied health care today,” Gibbons said. “They can walk into any hospital and receive the needed treatment.”
Health care experts, however, point to the use of emergency rooms as a key culprit in rising costs. Moreover, Gibbons’ own state health inspectors recently verified that University Medical Center emergency room employees neglected to provide care to a pregnant woman who was in labor, which may have contributed to the death of her premature baby.
But political observers said Tuesday was all about the politics.
“This is a guy down in the polls who has had trouble raising money,” Damore said. “He is going to use the office in any way possible to appeal to the primary voters.”
Gibbons’ maneuvering could have an impact on donors, who had dismissed the governor a few months ago, Damore said.
Running to the right, while helpful in the primary, could alienate more centrist voters in the general election. Damore noted, however, that the early June 8 primary gives candidates a chance to recover.
“There is time to do a little dancing,” he said.







You go Governor keep kicking. And Kick Heath-care-welfare cr_p out of this State , If The King-O wants to bankrupt Neveda let him do it someplace else,and take our moron of an Attorney General with him. I like your style Governor. "Gibbons for Governor a man we can we can Gamble on and WIN"
Well what do you think politics are all about. Gibbons is doing the right thing by joining in this lawsuit. Win or lose he is making a statement most Nevadans agree with. Most politicians have to make choices many of which have political implications. For those that will write on here that he's doing wrong better understand that health care is going to cost you. I read yesterday that the money employers put towards an individuals health insurance will begin to be taxed with our 2011 W2'S. So much for not raising taxes. By the way the incident at UMC won't be deterred by government run health care. I'd have to believe it will only get worse. Check out other government run agencies like USPO. Oh yeh just what we need more IRS involvement in our lives.
Gibbons, he is far more entertaining than watching grass grow.
what a big A** he try everything in the book
chuck 321 what about the most other people think
Where did you read that, Chuck?
was that a news conference or a commercial...
for the gibbons monkey...
for the law firm...
this is wrong...
terribly terribly wrong...
no one voted for that law firm...
this executive order makes a mockery of the election process...
it makes a mockery of the constitution...
the ag must not let this stand...
fight catherine fight!!!
if you have cancer...
and need chemo...
can you just walk into any hospital in nevada and get treatment???
hmmm???
Well, his self-centered position will surely get him re-elected. . . NOT!! Uh, let me guess the insurance companies in Nevada will no longer line his pockets if the reform is implemented?????
Gibbons needs to start a new campaign for public office in Mexico or another 3rd world country for politicians like him where it is only about money and quickies. He's just their kind!!!!
Chuck is right on reading that. The health benefits you receive through your employer WILL be added to your W-2 starting 2011. Our taxes will go up.....
checkout: HEALTH CARE REFORM-TAX HIKES ON THE WAY .... Kiplinger 4/6/10 We're SOOOOO screwed!
So lets get this straight.Nevada is bottom of all good things and top of all bad things, and yet you cheer on these politicians like they are your saviors. Who said you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
Birdie asked:
"if you have cancer...
and need chemo...
can you just walk into any hospital in nevada and get treatment???
hmmm???"
Sadly, no. I'm in this country legally.
Go Gibbons Go!!!
employer compensated insurance is bs, that is money I could have onmy paycheck if I didn't NEED insurance. The only way your insurance will be taxed is if you pay over 10,000 a year for singles and I beleive 22,000 a year for married couples. The constitutional atrocity is the fact that the Governor is undermining the democratic process by bringing in a PRIVATE law firm to represent Nevada, when the majority of the voters elected an Attorney General to do so, and he is using 5 grand to do it, as of now, how many filing fees will we pay? And if you dont think 5,000 is alot of money than you are not part of the Majority in this state or country. Let me ask this, are we not required to have immunizations, or ID cards, all of which must be paid for. No one says you have to buy insurance. What the law states is that if you dont have insurance you will pay a fine to help offset the rising premiums caused by the uninsured, or at least according to insurance companies and hospitals that is the reasoning they give for skyrocketing prices. Anyone who believes this is anything less than a political stunt is a fool, regardless of how you feel about this healthcare reform issue this man is making a mockery of our State and our Democratic process, and he is inserting his will. To all of the people who say the majority of Nevadans are against healthcare reform, where do you get your info? No research poll has asked me, and Im a registered voter. If you beleive statistics, then you are one. I myself am an American. You can try to say the tenth ammendment proves its unconstitutional, I say how. Enumeration of powers? What about seperation of powers? Right now the executive branch of our government is trying to play the judicial branch, thats the real crime, and a complaint has been filed with the Office of Public Integrity. Educate yourselves and stop playing into partisan re election tactics, it sickening how some elected officials try to manipulate our great democracy. And how many citizens play into it.
Funny, this state requires us to have auto insurance or face a huge fine.
please fight for us!
fight for everyone that EARNS their status in life (conservatives) and against those that feel they DESERVE their status in life (liberals).
dennis....
The state does not require us to have auto insurance.
If you want to own a car and you want that car to be driven on public roads then you are required to carry liability insurance.
So many people in Nevada do not have auto insurance.
ObamaCare will required everybody to carry health insurance.
On your taxes each year you must state if you have health insurance. If you don't say you have then you must pay a tax.
If you lie about having health insurance then the IRS can prosecute you and if you are found guilty either put you in jail and/or fine you up to ten of thousands of dollars..
hey catherine...
the stage is set...
you could not ask for a better script...
you have a man child governor...
who is desperate for re-election...
with a reputation in the toilet...
who laughs at the election process...
who laughs at the constitution...
the facts are on your side...
the law is on your side...
you have the power to make it right...
and let me tell you...
you must make it right...
or you are all done...
got that...
ok...
all quiet on the set...
and...
action!!!
Really Gibbons? lets let people die because they dont have health care. brilliant!
lets let the insurance companies CONTINUE TO SCREW EVERYONE! just what we need!
this bill may not be perfect but its a hell of a lot better than what we have been living with.
I am not largely involved in politics but something like this will bring me to the voting booth every time - against Gibbons and anyone else trying to stop this bill.
Stop listening to those liars on the radio and TV and do a little reading for yourself, and make your own determintaion. Most of what you all say about healthcare are lies and spins.
No wonder our country is in such a terrible state. People can no longer think for themselves.
"No wonder our country is in such a terrible state. People can no longer think for themselves."
exactly.
exactly.
that's why obamao is in office.
@Stevem Judging by your posts I wouldn't be so quick to pass judgement. You simply regurgitate everything on FOX. (Look up regurgitate.)
@Labdaddy I have to admit that was a funny line. Sadly the vast majority of people without access to care, getting their care taking away after paying for insurance, going bankrupt because of medical bills, being declined insurance because of pre-existing conditions, et al, et al, are Americans. If you want to harp on the idea that this is a hand-out or it's about illegal immigrants (which I strongly oppose) than your selling yourself short and not understanding what's at stake.
maybe that's because fox news isn't so in love with the messiah that they actually offer a different position?
national healthcare is a BAD idea.
period.
He just can't position himself on the right side of anything.
LET THE VOTERS SPEAK!!!
A new poll by Rasmussen shows that 54% of the state's voters would like Nevada to join the 14 other states that are suing the federal government over the health plan.
If Gibbons loses in the Supreme Court, will he resign in shame as being shown to be wrong [and incompetent]? Nah, he will give a lame excuse as usual. C'mon Jim, stake your entire political carreer on this issue. If it can't even pass muster in the Bush Supreme Court, you are [mental] toast.
In fact, all GOPer candidates who support this waste of time and money should take this pledge.
Has anyone above read the Attorney General's 3/30/10 letter to Gibbons? She gave a well-researched legal opinion essentially saying that this lawsuit is frivolous and a waste of time, not to mention a waste of taxpayer money. Along with his other cloned Republican governor pals, Gibbons, desparate for re-elction, is just making a stupid political statement.
JUST OUT!!!
It appears that the number of Nevada's voters who support repealing ObamaCare is rising daily...
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey in the state also shows that 62% of Nevada's voters support repealing the recently passed health care law.
The Governor is listening to the people NOT THE SEIU...
a take on the old saying applies here, "who is more moronic, gov. gibbons or the morons who agree with gibbons"... once again Nevada republicans behaving as the dolt clowns that they are... what an embarrassment
Far-right extreme conservatives have a strange love-hate relationship with lawyers.
While pretending to hate attorneys, Teabaggers just can't stand to be without them because they are so darn sue-happy.
Rasmussen never calls me or anyone I know. It's funny that everyone is against this health care but the President's approval rating is up. There is no point in arguing with some of these yahoo's.
Liberals want to shoot the messenger if they don't like the message.
Liberals don't need to listen to them there polls, because Prince Harry has told them that:
"Everybody acknowledges with rare exception that what we did " was terrific"
Well maybe... Except for 62% of Nevada's voters who support repealing ObamaCare...
chuck321: you are wrong! it will only list the amount that you are getting--it will not be taxed. In any case, taxing health benefits is the GOPer plan. When you can't win on facts, try to scare us.
GOPers always get all steamed up about things, often their own ideas. Like "frivolous" lawsuits. Bad for people injured while getting medical care, Good for GOPer governors who want to be re-elected.
Where are the constitutionalists now when the governer is shredding the Nevada constitution by bypassing the authority of the attorney general. This is authoritarian rule in Nevada.
I can't understand why people think national health care (which is not really what this is) is a bad idea. The facts are that people in countries WITH national health care are healthier, happier, and live longer lives. Whether the government can find a way to pay for it is another issue, but health care for everyone is a good idea.
You may think that if you can't afford health insurance, you don't deserve it, but many of us, maybe most of us, are one disaster away from being broke, jobless, or homeless and without health insurance that we have taken for granted for so long. I, for one, am glad to have my employer given health insurance, even if it is not the best, and I don't mind if they tax it, because if I was getting it in pay instead, they would tax that anyway.
"But political observers said Tuesday was all about the politics." What else did you expect them to say, they are political observers.
There are plenty of legal experts and scholars on both sides of the issue. This should be adjudicated, to put to rest whether it is constitutional or not. We can all arm chair quarterback, however, only one side of this issue is correct.
To notacon, I agree with you, the state constitutionality needs to be determined. In the beginning it was the Gov. stating AG wasn't doing her job, now it's AG talking about a lawsuit against the Gov. (who's going to pay for that?). It's ridiculous.
After careful consideration our AG determined she did not need to file on behalf of Nevadans. Gov. Gibbons found legal counsel to take the case pro bono; he's not wasting Nevada tax dollars. There is a legitimate debate on the constitutionality of the mandate. It's crystal clear the two are on opposites sides of the debate (as many people are), why would the AG want to sue the Gov., for not agreeing with her legal opinion?
In addition, I find it curious that the AG doesn't want to waste taxpayer money to determine the constitutionality of the mandate, but will jump right in there, with our tax dollars, to tell us she thinks a lawsuit against the Gov. may be necessary.
Great Job, Gibbons proud of you. It is too bad we don't have an AG that knows the Constitution of the United States and that the Federal Government cannot mandate this on the states. The Constitution is very specific in separating the powers allowed by the Federal Government and the States and this clearly crosses the line. The AG was obviously the wrong choice to protect the people of Nevada. Shame on Us for electing her. in time this will be corrected as this is yet another area where she has failed. (see Krolicki). Question, can this lady actually think for herself or is she just another Reid Puppet. Nevermind I know the answer.
He went on the morning radio show that carries the Hutchinson and Stephen advertisements and got the typical softball interview and shoe shine, as did Hutchinson Esq. Callers included your typical dittoheads saying "this is treason" and "they should be impeached." blah blah
"This is unprecedented, never in our history has someone been forced to buy something..." Both Gibbons and Hutchinson said. Of course the Militia Act of 1791 required people buy a musket, bayonet, ammo, etc. But never mind the precedent. What does Sandoval say about this? Looks like we see the politicians appealing to the Beckbrains of this world.
I say sue the governor - it will give him lots of publicity and then he might actually get selected which will play into the hands of the Democrats. Do the right thing AG and get the guy. Then we can impeach him and all celebrate with peach pie!
The state is not suing, it is just going to chip-in on the Floridah suit. Big deal. I wonder if we could be counter sued or have to pay attorney's fees for the opposition?
Oregon is going to defend the healthcare bill. How can a state tell the Federal government they can't put a new line on the 1040 form? Give me a break.
If you can draft people, you can require a healthcare tax.
Sgt Rock, the Swedish Penis size research expert, claims that people will be potentially jailed if they lie on their taxes.
I think the first time they'll allow you a chance to amend your return. It is strange to see our esteemed penis size expert pontificating about peoples right to be irresponsible if they choose to. I thought the penis size expert was always in favor personal responsibility.
Hey Rocky -- I don't think that Swedes who have immigrated here will be eligible for penis enlargement under Obamacare, unless you know better. You seem to be the penis size expert around here.
I don't see any healthcare jails being built anytime soon, unless Jim Gibbons is re-erected :)
Gibbons is right on this issue. All Nevadans should wholeheartly suupport him as this piece of legislation is more like a hunkin' Democratic turd that needs to be flushed down the toilet. Democrat Attorney General Cathrine Masto needs to go for blocking progress on this issue. She must be voted out of office this November.
I guess he needs something to keep him busy since he isn't sexting or harassing cocktail waitresses anymore..that we know of.
Sgt Rock "If you lie about having health insurance then the IRS can prosecute you and if you are found guilty either put you in jail and/or fine you up to ten of thousands of dollars.."
Not true. page 336 of the Senate Bill signed in December, and was incorporated into the final Bill, says
''(g) ADMINISTRATION AND PROCEDURE.--
(1) IN GENERAL.--The penalty provided by this section shall be paid upon notice and demand by the Secretary, and except as provided in paragraph (2),shall be assessed and collected in the same manner as an assessable penalty under subchapter B of chapter 68.
(2) SPECIAL RULES.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law-- ''(A) WAIVER OF CRIMINAL PENALTIES.--In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.
(B) LIMITATIONS ON LIENS AND LEVIES.-- The Secretary shall not--''(i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section, or ''(ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure.''.
I think that's pretty clear language.
Hey folks in Nevada Congressional Distric 3 - CQ Politics just changed your race from Leans Democrat to Toss up. Not only is America waking up, it would seem Las Vegas is too! Congradulations, keep up the good fight! Together we will get our great state back on track. Heck (R)40% Titus (D/Progressive) 35%
Don't forget, FireNancyPelosi.com is a site dedicated to ousting Democrats who voted for Government Take Over of our Health Care System which NV-3 Democrat Dina Titus did.
The law firm will keep track of their hours and expenses, then write it off as a "pro-bono work" - a charitable contribution - on their taxes. Good way to have a bunch of attorneys sitting around earn their salt.
Even Foxtorneys Massi and Neopolitan say this suit is going nowhere.
Jeff,
Yes, isn't it curiously oxymoronic of the right to COMPLAIN that people now have to "take some responsibility" for their own healthcare needs and not just show up @ ER expecting to be patched up?
I thought that was one of their big beefs... "lazy, irresponsible lowlifes" who don't pay their fair share, and "leach off the system"?
Now that something of this sort is actually being legislated, it is THE END OF THE WORLD!!!
Much of the opposition to "ObamaCare" is a drummed-up attempt to discredit the Obama administration so the righties can gain fannies in the fall.
99 out of 100 republican actions right now are exactly that: HOW DO WE EXPLOIT THIS IN ORDER TO HELP US WIN ELECTIONS?!?!?
Of course, it should be as the President put it; your seats be damned; the American people need action now!
The majority of Americans voted for change and we won't go back to the tired old failed policies that got us into this predicament that we're in. Republicans/Conservatives/Tea Party = George Bush and company
mred,
So just to recap...
You're okay with attorneys in the Dept. of Justice defending terrorists pro-bono, but this you have a problem with?
That is disturbing!
Hearing Gibbons speak, it's a fair bet he hasn't gotten past the first page of the Health Care bill.
And the people routing for this guy to take down the health bill are probably the same folks who just cashed their social security check and got a Dr.'s check up on our dime.
Chediski: As usual your analysis is incomplete. By failing to pay the fines you'll be in violation of the tax code. For that they can jail you. Don't believe it? Ask Irwin Schiff.
fosimmons:
How about you read this article in the other newspaper that talks about the 50% of Americans who actually make a profit off the government.
You can answer your own question.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/U...
fosimmons, you forgot to mention that in Romneys state of Mass. the plan FAILED miserabley and is no longer in place.
and someone forgot to mention the cost to taxpayers if Masto files suit against Gibbons. and someone also forgot to mention the millions Nevada will have to cough up in our general fund to pay for this healthcare bill.AND WE DON"T HAVE IT. We can't balance our budget now, no one will make concessions, except the state employees, where do you democrats propose we get these millions? oh yeah, you guys like to tax people.
Whats so funny and ridiculous about all of this lawsuit stuff, is this... We do not need to file a Lawsuit since 14 other States have. The lawsuit that has been filed is against the Reform Insurance Bill, if the higher court finds this lawsuit to have merit or has found that the lawsuit is frivolous, it rules for the entire nation, not just one State. We do not need to file a lawsuit... Gibbons is using this as a tool to get publicity for the GOP Primary in June. Does everyone understand this. There is already a lawsuit filed by 14 other States. Again We Do Not Need To File A Lawsuit, becasue a Lawsuit has already been filed by 14 other States against the Insurance Bill....
hey labdaddy...
hope all is well buddy...
so it would do you proud to ride on someone elses coat tails? you don't want to do anything about it, but you want the benifits of what someone else worked to accomplish? hhhmmm, typical democrat phylosophy. As I'm sure you've noticed, the repubs like to work for what they recieve, so.... never ever thought I'd say this, but go Gibbons!!!!!!
Much of the opposition to "ObamaCare" is a drummed-up attempt to discredit the Obama administration so the righties can gain fannies in the fall.
99 out of 100 republican actions right now are exactly that: HOW DO WE EXPLOIT THIS IN ORDER TO HELP US WIN ELECTIONS?!?!?
oh my gosh, you caught us!!! we are trying to copy what Obama did in his campaign, it worked so well for him, we thought we'd try our hand at it. I guess we aren't as good at decieving the people as the dems are.
The Sun needs to get a liberal from UNLV to back up its argument. Typical! Gibbons is right on the money to challenge Masto's reluctance to file suit. More proof the Reid and Masto are not interested in helping the little people, but getting more contributions from government employees and union bosses
lipton...au contraire!
If chedisi is right then it means people can just ignore the requirement to get health insurance.
There is no penalty according to him.
They can just lie on their taxes and get away with it.
So they can just wait until then they need health insurance and then buy it.
Sounds like a good plan to save thousands each year in insurance premiums.
Dems are soooooooooooo smart.
Gibbons doesnt care about the people of Nevada or the constitution, He is just grasping at what ever he can to get some votes. I'm sure there are enough ignorant self serving folks out there to cast a few in his direction. I'm hoping that sanity prevails and we keep the crooked Republicans out. But nothing surprises me after going through the Bush years.
SgtRock, You know your vet benefits will pay you to go back to school. You really should look into it.
bbtbrain - I didn't make this stuff up. It's in the Bill. Read it. (And saying "As usual my analysis is incomplete" - gee - thanks for taking the time to go over my more than 100 posts and coming up with a conclusion. I'm honored I'd take up so much of your time.)
SgtRock - it's not a matter of me being right - it's in the Bill. Download a copy. This isn't according to me - damn - you guys have eyes and brains, right? This isn't my opinion for crying out loud.
I guess the $60,000,000 loss at UMC that comes from our pockets will continue so business can keep shifting this burden to homeowners is the master plan Gibbons has ? Thankfully, we voters are not as stupid as he would believe. We made the mistake of electing him and we learned from it. Good-by, Gov Gibbons, and good riddance !
everybody go bake a peach pie and get ready for the impeachment
Mitt Romney defends his mandate requiring nearly all people to buy coverage in Massachusetts, by declaring it a matter of "personal responsibility" for all people to buy into insurance pools so that "free riders" without insurance can't stick taxpayers with their hospital bills.
If our Governor wants to pick a fight with the healthcare bill and can raise the money from some suckers to do it, that's fine with me, just so long as he doesn't raid our empty coffers to do it. This is probably a good way to keep him occupied and out of trouble until we vote him out. It will also make him feel like he's actually doing something note worthy, even though it's just a big waste of time.
StanG...
I'm STUMPED about this new found lack of "personal responsibility" from the right!
Now that people are to be "required" to pay a little something towards health insurance so that millions and millions of good people that didn't have access previously will now be covered, and those with pre-existing conditions can't be denied coverage, all of the sudden, out of the CLEAR BLUE YONDER, we hear this hue & cry from the neo-nuts;
"Oh my God, how can you have conceived of such EVIL! MAKING people have HEALTH INSURANCE! It's UNCONSCIONABLE! It's UNCONSTITUTIONAL! We LOVE freeloaders! Why are you picking on people? You're ruining everything!"
None of this, of course, means DIDDLY to our right-winged friends... NONE OF IT! It's all political GRANDSTANDING.
Congressman LIAR! and Senator BABY KILLER! Don't give a rip
if you have health care or not, or whether you can afford it, or have been disqualified from coverage entirely.
DOES NOT MATTER!
What matters is:
1) EMBARRASS THE PRESIDENT!
2) PAYBACK! "They did this without us!"
3) The November elections. WIN @ ALL COSTS! Make stuff up if you have to, like Uncle Larry; DEATH PANELS! RATIONING! ZILLION DOLLAR DEFICITS! UNFUNDED MANDATES! UNCONSTITUTIONAL THIS, UNCONSCIONABLE THAT!
Make sure to put this anger thing back on the Dem's...
Like children, we will point the finger back at THEM! Call THEM the "Haters", see how they like it!
Yes, it's time to scare the old people again, too! Drag out all the old tricks! Do what you have to, LarryRock...
Your franchise depends on it!!!
The selfish, greedy republicans will lose again.
Do they really think that fighting health care,
for their fellow Americans, is a winner?
They will lose HUGE in November.