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Nevada’s long-standing common sense argument against Yucca Mountain has been that the state doesn’t even have a nuclear plant, so it would be patently wrong to force it to be the nuke dump site for the rest of the nation.
That line might not be valid in the future, however. Ely is considering going nuclear.
The northeastern Nevada town was once slated to become home to two huge coal power plants. But as costly regulations of carbon emissions loomed large in recent years, those plants were put on the back burner. The mining town is desperate for the economic diversification and high-paying jobs a power plant would bring. Its advocates argue that nuclear energy is “green energy” to the extent that it does not emit greenhouse gases.
Plans to build at least one major transmission line from Ely to Las Vegas mean a nuclear plant up there could supply power to Southern Nevada and elsewhere, notes Gary Duarte, a Sparks resident who is the founder and director of the US Nuclear Energy Foundation, a nonprofit organization that promotes nuclear energy in rural areas.
A nuclear plant anywhere in Nevada, however, would not only fly in the face of the state’s lobbying against nuclear waste, it would also be a huge consumer of a resource over which epic fights are under way — water.
Yucca’s staunchest and most powerful opponent, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, wouldn’t address the Ely situation directly, but through a spokesman said he wants to hold off on nuclear energy until scientists figure out what to do with the lethal waste the plants generate.
Reid also has concerns about the amount of water a nuclear plant would use, his spokesman, Jon Summers said.
“All Nevadans should be aware that there is no other power source that requires more water than nuclear,” he said. “In fact, it’s the only power source that requires more water than coal.”
Water is hugely politicized in Nevada — especially in Northern Nevada. Rural Nevadans are steamed about Southern Nevada’s decades-long quest for all the unused water (and even some of the used water) in their aquifers.
Ely is afraid that if it doesn’t use all the water it has, the Southern Nevada Water Authority will swoop in and take it.
The water in the Steptoe Valley basin, which covers the area of White Pine County that includes Ely and the outlying area where the nuclear plant might be located, is spoken for, according to state records. Enough water flows into the basin most years to enable farmers, miners and municipalities to pull about 70,000 acre-feet of water from beneath the ground each year. Locals have permission from the state to pump more than 96,400 acre-feet of water a year. Most water rights holders don’t use all their water every year, and the biggest users are farms, where much of the water used trickles back down into the aquifer.
That wouldn’t happen with water used at a nuclear plant. A good portion of it is lost as steam.
Modern nuclear power plants use about 25 million gallons of water a day. Annually, that comes out to about 60,000 acre-feet of water. Mike McGough, senior vice president of UniStar Nuclear Energy, which made an informational presentation on nuclear development last month in Ely, notes that most plants have recapture technology that can drop that number to 25,000 acre-feet. But that’s still 36 percent of the basin’s water — and water that is not even available, according to state records.
Ely Mayor Jon Hickman, who is advocating for the nuclear plant, said enough water for it would be available if both coal plants were officially scuttled and the companies abandoned their quest for water rights.
He said Ely residents fear that if they don’t find another use for that water, the Southern Nevada Water Authority will get it, further limiting the town’s options for economic diversification.
The authority says that won’t happen, but Northern Nevadans don’t believe it.
Hickman and others in Ely do believe in nuclear, though.
“Ely really needs something that is going to be more permanent than what we have,” Hickman says. “Like any mining community we always live in fear of the mine closing. It would destroy our economy.”
A nuclear plant would boost the Ely economy by first providing 4,000 skilled construction jobs for the six years it would take to build the plant, McGough says. During that time, the town’s population — now just over 4,000 — would boom, supporting local businesses. And locals could use that time get the education they would need to land one of the approximately 360 permanent jobs that would each would pay from $85,000 to $90,000 a year.
The economic footprint of a nuclear plant would be huge — about $20 million in state and local taxes, McGough said.
“There are a lot of positive impacts,” he said. “The jobs at the site all spawn secondary and tertiary economic impacts.”
It would take a lot more than an ideal site to get a company like his to build a $9 billion power plant, however.
“Anybody who is going to develop a nuclear energy plant would be irresponsible and asking for an uphill battle if they were trying to go build something in a place where they’re not wanted,” he says. “Our feeling is that there are lots of places where these facilities are desired and if we’re going to develop this huge endeavor, we’re only going to do it if we’ve got local, state, political support.”
But could a nuclear power plant developer get that support in a state known for its opposition to nuclear waste?
Nevada Nuclear Waste Task Force Executive Director Judy Treichel said her organization is opposed to both storage of the nuclear waste and of the plants that make it. She and the anti-nuclear waste organizations that her group represents would be sure to mount strong opposition.
Even in Ely, the town’s leaders and residents have a lot of questions, Hickman said. They’ve set up a community committee to explore the pros and cons of having a nuclear plant nearby and to gauge public opinion.
That was a major hurdle for the coal plants, which were fairly popular with most Ely residents, but strongly opposed by others throughout the West. Hickman said he expects opposition to a nuclear plant would be just as strong.







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Las Vegas must seriously consider, how long can it continue to depend on the Hoover Dam and the flow of water in the Colorado river to supply it with all the electricity it needs to keep the lights of Las Vegas shining. I would suggest that a Nuclear Power station built close to the Hoover Dam, would be the best option, so it could use the existing power lines and be introduced slowly at first as a back up power source and only replace it sometime in the future when the Hoover Dam power station needs to be updated or even totally replaced.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, wouldn't address the Ely situation directly, but through a spokesman said he wants to hold off on nuclear energy until scientists figure out what to do with the lethal waste the plants generate
All Reid has to do is let the NRC rule on Yucca.
Nobody ever will accuss Reid of more then an inept dim bulb
So Reid got the Coal plants replaced by Nuclear plants. That is a positve step
Oh what happened to Reids blue ribbon committee to solve the waste requirements
why on god's green earth would you fight for nuclear power in nevada...
shouldn't the fight be for solar and wind...
seems like a no brainer to me...
Here you go, gang. Let this be a lesson about using the word, "green" everytime you get a hang nail. By making carbon emissions your biggest, baddest boogyman, you have brought nuclear back to Nevada. And of course,Senator Reid sits on the fence proving he only used Yucca for his politiking.
You are also supporting constructing up to 20 0r 30 solar thermal wet cooled plants in Nevada which would use about the same amount of water.
People have been producing energy on their roof from photovoltaics since the 1970's. Thin film photovoltaics have brought the price down, but the Sun just HATES that idea! That's because you tried to muddy green energy by turning it into an economic priority. But you just can't see how many local construction and maintenance jobs that would create. Being local, it would reduce the amount of gas fired car driving time that would be required if a big renewable plant is built in a remote area. You missed the boat.
Congrats Sun! You are going to help make Nevada go nuclear!
Besides, you guys like coal! Remember? As long as they mix a few wood chips in it. That is waht your rag said a few days ago...
Apparently there is one area in Nevada that has a functioning brain. As for Reid who knows where that dolts brain is located or even functioning. When we went away from Nuclear Power it was a huge mistake and we pay for it daily. Nuclear Plants have been running in this coutry and in the Navy Fleet for years, tell me where the waste problem and water contamination has been a problem????? The Yucca project was and remains a viable solutuion (how do I know this ???? I worked it back in the 1990s) The solutions were absolute and the problems expressed by the scare tactics bunch today are non-existent. Hey Ely go for it, I'm with you all the way. To those that fear radiation stay out of the sun and off of the beaches. If you haven't noticed melanoma is increasing, cause exposure to the suns radiation and sun tanning beds. As far as water consumption check the French on it solutions are coming forth and they are over 50% Nuclear. Japan is coming out with packaged units. We have that on our Navy Nuclear vessels since the 1960s.
To the writer do more research on the subject you will be amazed at the advancements on Nuclear but not in this country since the fear factor rules in the USA.
Nuclear sounds like a good fit to me. It generates 24 hours a day, 365 days a year continuously, just ask the U.S. Navy. Nuclear is the most cost efficient form of generation; less than 1/5th the cost of wind generation and 1/12th the cost of solar collectors which generate half the time because of darkness.
Water is hugely politicized in Nevada -- especially in Northern Nevada. Rural Nevadans are steamed about Southern Nevada's decades-long quest for all the unused water (and even some of the used water) in their aquifers.
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Wow, I don't hear anyone in Reno complaining about northern Nevada's decades-long quest for all of the southern Nevada tax money that gets collected in this state. We should just become a new state and elect Oscar as its governor. Or perhaps join back up with Arizona. What has Reno done for us lately?
It's about time folks are coming to the senses.
America's nuclear power generation fleet was primarily built upon '60s & '70s technology, of course costly modernization modifications have been implemented particularly in control systems the fact remains it takes the better part of decade from conception to complete to construct such generating facilities.
There's extensive environmental & siemic studies, evacuation plans, system's testing, personnel training, unfavorable politics, red-tape, licensing and cost overruns -- how will adequate financing be assured?
Will this be a BWR or PWR design?
What about building a breeder reactor?
Will adequate water be available for at least the next half-century?
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Those thinking about long-term recovery, know the enviroment will be a big winner in the conversion to biofuels & biopower -- saw a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth
There are ways to build nuclear power plants such that their water usage is almost nothing such as by air cooling. Alternativley, using a river or lake is another way to not need evaporative steam. If Ely built a huge lake to go along with the nuke unit, it would add to the recreational aspects of northeastern Nevada as well as provide a huge power source. Lake front housing would go for a fortune and also boost the home building business in Nevada.
We can't go Nuclear, it would expose Harry as the con-artist he is.
The hoover dam was built for NV ele. but now it is being sold to CA.at a better price.money talks and sh!! walk. Thats the way the world goes around. Go Green, solar and wind you have alot of each.
Build a nuke plant at lake las vegas, they have security, cooling water, and they're close to the power grid. Since they went BK, they need the money. Feed the nuclear waste to geese, then make pate de froie gras out of them and feed that to the rich people out there.
BobbyG, you beat me to it.
According to the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, Nevada gets 23.3706% of the energy generated by Hoover Dam.
http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/faqs/po...
The nut bar talk radio kook candidates Loudung and Tarkington support nukes. I hope they bring out the Newts and the Pailins and the Sean Insannitys of this work to camPAIN for them. We need another 23 NY district foul-up here.
mred is like a gift that just keeps on giving.
He is a firm believer of free speech. Oh, I mean his free speech.
Hey mred don't forget to order Palin's new book. Its only $9 on Amazon.com.
Since the 70's, the nuke industry was proposing to recycle spent nuclear rods. Even President Carter proposed 4 sites around the country to get it done, but the NIMBYs (Not in my back yard) refused and we still have no solution because of it.
It's too bad that comedians who author blog material (with little substance) weren't filtered out. It would be nice if people who quoted numbers had the facts. The world is just full of myth lore and legend! Facts be known when you factor in water usage in coal preparation, steam production to make the electricity and water use in plant scrubber operations to (partially) clean the smoke, the coal plant actually uses more water overall. A megawatt of electricity is a megawatt, and requires the SAME steam to drive the turbine. Coal and Nuclear are very close to equivalent in water usage. This is why if preliminary water may support two coal plants it might also support one large nuclear plant.
The power industry has developed "Hybrid" (half water half air) and Dry cooling (totally closed air) systems, some of which have been actually installed and tested in New Mexico. Large scale deployment can be accomplished given a sites specific limitations.
Solar systems require water to keep them clean to maintain their efficiency. Ironically, any PV system is best installed where there is little or no water (hard for the mirror washers)! Any Solar-Steam system will actually use more water than a power equivalent Nuclear or Coal system, for the water usage to clean the mirrors. (Just wondering, how many pints, quarts, gallons to clean a PV panel X number of panels X frequency, week, month, year)? Again the steam-turbine uses the same water quantity megawatt to megawatt.
Put your thinking caps on folks.
Think Desal water. Desal plants are progressively getting better using hybrid technologies. Locating them next to power plants to utilize the electric plant's excess heat (steam if you please) to aid in evaporating more water from the briny process stream. Multi-stage flash evaporation. Also using RO (reverse osmosis) for lower brine concentrations.
Get yourselves a pipeline with a bunch of wells in the ocean floor in Baja or So Cal, take the water to the Salton Sea, build your nuclear plant there along with your desal plant (no pumping the water uphill). Trade water rights with the farmers who'll be glad to have less salty water than they're getting now, and expand the facilities at Lake Mead to handle the traded water rights.
Let Ely have the water from Spring Valley that Snwa bought or got rights to, and let Ely build their plant too. And their own desal plant.
Ok everyone let us all realize that it is going to take all types of energy to get us through these tough times ahead; coal, nuclear,oil,wind, solar everything in order to make us energy independent, and white pine county really needs help in creating new jobs and income for the families that live there.
If all these special intrest groups keep road blocking everything in order to save the earth for the next generations there want be anything left for the next generation.