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Sen. Maggie Carlton, D-Las Vegas, takes a quick rest during a Senate floor session at the Legislature in Carson City on Wednesday, May 20, 2009.
Friday, May 22, 2009 | 2 a.m.
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The low point of this session’s spirited budget negotiations likely came in the wee hours Thursday, when Senate Majority Leader Steven Horsford, D-Las Vegas, issued “a call of the house.”
Invoking the obscure procedural rule, the Senate majority leader directed the sergeant at arms to “take into custody” three absent Republican senators and return them to the legislative body where they would face “such action as the Senate may deem proper.”
The only thing missing from the surreal scene, which played out at 2:30 a.m., was a sergeant-at-arms staffer hopping onto a horse, grabbing a lasso and bellowing “To Fallon!” as he galloped off to wrangle an errant Republican Sen. Mike McGinness.
The drama came with roughly 36 hours remaining before lawmakers’ self-imposed deadline to pass a tax and spending package and deliver it to Gov. Jim Gibbons by 5 p.m. today, leaving enough time for the Legislature to override his expected veto.
Horsford eventually suspended the call, but the floor debate that followed was tense and the votes on important bills were split along party lines.
Veterans of the process took the public acrimony in stride Thursday, saying it wasn’t yet time to panic over lawmakers’ delay in reaching an agreement. The Nevada Legislature, they said, has always played a game of brinkmanship.
“Negotiations expand to fill the time allotted,” said veteran lobbyist Billy Vassiliadis, who has been involved in talks with legislative leadership this session. “The sort of culture has been bred that they can’t have a deal until a gun is put to their temple.”
After a short nap, lawmakers returned to negotiate. They emerged from a meeting Thursday evening to announce that they had reached a tentative agreement on what had been the primary sticking points in recent weeks — changes in public employee pensions, retiree health benefits and collective bargaining provisions.
Missing the deadline would likely lead to a court battle and result in Gibbons’ recommended budget being passed.
“The only one who’d win if talks blow up is Jim Gibbons,” said one veteran business lobbyist. “He’d be able to come back and say, ‘I told you so.’ ”
There is, of course, no guarantee that legislators won’t blow the deadline in the final minutes.
But Sen. Randolph Townsend, R-Reno, said Thursday that he thought the sides were close to a deal, with only two small issues standing in the way of an agreement on public employee benefit and bargaining changes.
“It sounds like everything is coming together,” said Assembly Speaker Barbara Buckley, D-Las Vegas.
Democrats had agreed to dial back pensions and retiree health benefits for new public employees. Firefighter, police, teacher and other public employee unions — some of the party’s key constituencies — gave the legislators heat for bending during negotiations.
Meanwhile, Republicans said their votes on taxes — two are needed to pass a tax package and override a Gibbons veto — were contingent on those changes.
Lobbyist Greg Ferraro, who, with Vassiliadis, has been the major outside intermediary between the camps, said “whenever a compromise is struck and both sides are unhappy, it’s a sign of a good deal.
“They will try as hard as they possibly can to reach an accord.”
Missing the deadline would be a major blow to Buckley, Horsford and Senate Minority Leader Bill Raggio, R-Reno.
“We have to get something done,” Horsford said. “Otherwise, no one wins.”
He and others said want a deal for policy reasons. Since Gibbons unveiled his budget, Republicans and Democrats alike have said some of its proposed cuts are unworkable.
They have spent months undoing many of the cuts in Gibbons’ budget, including a 36 percent cuts in higher education, caps on health care for the working poor and the closing of rural mental health clinics.
Legislators have agreed in principle to a spending plan and a $781 million tax plan to fund the budget for the next two years.
Failure to reach a deal would also be a blow politically for the legislative leaders.
Buckley is considering a run for governor in 2010. Failing to pass an alternative to Gibbons’ budget would leave opponents an opening to attack her leadership.
Horsford is in his first term as majority leader, a position he would certainly like to keep.
As for Raggio, he has a legacy to protect. He has spent decades in the state Senate advocating for and building a higher education system that would be gutted by Gibbons’ budget.
“None of these people wants to see what happens under Gibbons’ budget,” said one lobbyist, granted anonymity to speak frankly. “Everybody loses.”







Its the same old story, session after session- legislators "arguing" until the 11th hour. Sure, balance the budget by running the state with a skeleton crew, cutting state employees' pay and benefits & raising tutiton but heaven fobid we cut public services to people who are not US citizens.....I'll make the politically incorect suggestion that if we stop spending the incredible amounts of $$$ on public services provided to non-citizens, we'd eliminate the current budget issues facing the nation & so many states! How is it that we can "afford" to provide servies to non-citizens but we don't have enough tax dollars to provide for our citizenz? I suppose its a moot point in that the legislators will miss another self-imposed deadline & the governor's dreaded budget plan will be be implemented. We will certainly get what what we deserve....its all over but the crying.....
How much has the shortfall grown? Every state keeps reporting larger deficits immediately after some budget deal is worked out. New York and California both reported 15% increases in deficits after tax and spending votes were taken.
Is our legislature being honest with themselves or us. Are we about to agree to tax increases only to find out in a week that the gap is much larger? Make sure whatever is being budgeted to spend is withing the money that is actually going to come in, not some pie in the sky dream.
Hey all. Today on Face to Face with Jon Ralston, we talk with a pair of experts about the political and economic fallout from the Legislature's late-session moves. That's at 5:30pm, 6:30pm and 8:00pm on Las Vegas ONE, Cox Cable Channel 19.
"Make sure whatever is being budgeted to spend is withing the money that is actually going to come in, not some pie in the sky dream."
The problem with that is the the number is unpredictable from month to month. The budget hole projected back in February 2009 (the "worst-case scenario") for May 2009 was much smaller than what it actually was.
I wouldn't be too terribly surprised if 6-9 months down the road the governor has to call a special session because the hole's deeper and wider than even the current "worst-case scenarios" are saying.
neiman,
That is exactly what i am wondering. it seems that they are relying on taxing things that are very speculative. I am thinking that the deficit will continue to grow. I don't agree with tax increases.
Just passed the Senate 17-4.