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Spectators look on during an annual Three-Tour Challenge at the Reflection Bay Golf Club at Lake Las Vegas in Henderson in 2004. The golf course at Lake Las Vegas is scheduled to close June 30 and its employees will be laid off.
Published Thursday, June 25, 2009 | 10:41 a.m.
Updated Tuesday, Aug. 25, 2009 | 12:56 p.m.
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Beyond the Sun
The Reflection Bay golf course at Lake Las Vegas is scheduled to close June 30 and its employees will be laid off, Lake Las Vegas revealed in a recent court filing.
With the earlier closure of the Falls golf course, this will leave just one operating course at the struggling high-end development in Henderson. That's the private SouthShore course.
Reflection Bay is an 18-hole Jack Nicklaus-designed course that in years past hosted the national Wendy's Three-Tour challenge.
Lake at Las Vegas Joint Venture, which filed for bankruptcy protection last year, said in a court filing last week that even though it operates Reflection Bay, it has determined it has no equity interest in the course and that the property is not necessary for its financial reorganization.
Lake at Las Vegas said it will close the course in advance of a foreclosure sale set for July 9 by the holder of the course's mortgage, Carmel Land & Cattle Co.
About 45 employees will be laid off, a spokeswoman said.
The planned closure caused the three hotels at Lake Las Vegas to make arrangements to send guests to golf courses in Henderson, Las Vegas and Boulder City.
A spokeswoman for the Lake Las Vegas Destination Marketing Council said the Ritz-Carlton has partnered with Cascata in Boulder City; Rio Secco, Anthem (Revere at Anthem-Concord Course and Revere at Anthem–Lexington Course) and Tuscany in Henderson.
The Loews Lake Las Vegas Resort has partnered with the Tuscany, Cascata, Legacy, Revere and Royal Links courses.
MonteLago Village Resort has partnered with Tuscany.
Given the distressed state of the economy, it's unclear if anyone would buy the Reflection Bay course. Carmel Land earlier foreclosed on the Falls course.
And while that course remains closed, it's being maintained, said Sandra Sternberg, spokeswoman for Lake at Las Vegas.
In court papers, Lake at Las Vegas said Carmel Land holds a claim related to Reflection Bay of $28.382 million.
"In view of the continued deterioration of the economy and the scarcity of available financing for golf courses, the debtors believe that Reflection Bay is worth significantly less than Carmel's secured claims," Lake at Las Vegas Senior Vice President James Coyne said in court papers.
The bankruptcy court set a June 29 hearing on the plan to close the course and to allow Carmel Land to proceed with the foreclosure sale.
I thought Acorn was responsible for the economic and housing collapse? Guess they were out at Lake Las Vegas big time. Oops, I got to get back to the "Hannity" Show. dittos!
Very good !!! Finally Las Vegas is getting the message. One golf course less means a lot of water being saved. More courses should be shut down and this luxury craze should be abandoned from the valley. Vegas is a great city, even without expensive and pervert water waste golf courses. This is a step into a better future. Congratulations, Vegas :)
but, golly gee...
our beloved mayor and all the casino executives said vegas was recession proof.
2 days ago it was tahiti village, today it's this golf course.
we're going to have 25% unemployment in this town. it's just a matter of time.
hmmm... a golf course in a desert? That's almost as stupid as foutains shooting water high into the hot dry desert air.
We are gonna need that land for a tent city.
sorry for all these people that bought their homes nearby Lake Las Vegas Resort and Casino. I was there 2x in total, noticed that they had cut down the limits on B-J to 100 (!!!!). I mean, sorry, but, a classy resort like this should have more cash in their bank than allowing a 100 dollar game. It was so ridiculous to see the pitboss count the cards after I sat down , playing a few hands there. It was ridiculous in particular as I not even watched the cards, so how the hell should I be able to count, and even if I would.....would it make sense to play in a place that allows limits between 5 and 100 and where there's no action at all so at least 3 people were watching me while I was playing.....silly silly silly.....and now they get what they deserve. I don't care anymore.
Still trying to figure out who is paying the 1 Mil a year to water the closed Lakes golf course. The sand traps are turning brown, so there's no little people working on the course, but somebody must be trimming the grass. The rumors at the casino are that Boedecker and the guys at Transcontinental that ripped millions out of the development are waiting like vultures to buy the properties back for pennies on the dollar. Carmel Land is just a front for these con men. Hey, city of Henderson, how those 33 Mil in bonds doing? I heard some people are paying $800 a month in HOA fees at LLV? Not for long, they'll be gone. Boobs.
To be clear, the Fountains at Bellagio are fed by an underwater well and MGM Mirage owns the rights to that body of water. It was previously used for the golf course of the old Dunes. Less water is used today at the site than in the past. That water is not in any way part of Lake Mead.
Schadenfreude! I have no sympathy for the Bourgeoisie when they lose their toys of excess.
If it were ony the case that HOA fees at LLV were as low as $800! Some of the "deals" at LLV that are going for under $150K have total HOA fees of over $1200/month. There are actually 3 differnt fees everyone pays (some monthly, some qtly). Until the HOAs go down to where they are a lot less than the monthly payment on a $275k home, LLV is destined to die!
Surprised that there is not any reporting where the water for the foreclosed golf courses is coming from and the agreements the City is violating by allowing Carmel and Boeddekker to take water from fire hydrants. Citizens should be pissed that in this drought such a waste of water continues. Where is the County and SNWA on this issue? Is it more important the city's utility fund is profiting rather than protecting our precious natural resources? The real issue is the waste of water.
"To be clear, the Fountains at Bellagio are fed by an underwater well and MGM Mirage owns the rights to that body of water. It was previously used for the golf course of the old Dunes. Less water is used today at the site than in the past. That water is not in any way part of Lake Mead."
To be perfectly clear: WASTING WATER IN A DESERT IS STUPID
i wonder when Lake Las Vegas Resort and Casino will shut down. And, isn't there another hotel with a little casino adjacent? Something for the super rich who feel too good to go to the Strip and prefer privacy instead? Very soon there will be nothing but deserted land so they will get a lot of privacy. I will take pictures of that yellow grass of the "what used to be a " golf course next time when I go and check the scenery.....
From Switzerland
I guess you're just a human cactus, aren't you Sabibaby?
If it comes down to water for a fountain, golf course, or for people to drink, I'll take water for people to drink.
Hopefully we can teach people something about sustainability through all this turbulence.
Actually, golf courses are among the most efficient users of water according to the Southern Nevada Water Authority.
Golf courses use about 47 gallons per square foot per year. The average residential lawn uses about 73 gallons per sf per year.
The SNWA exists to support water waste. Pat Mulroy and her minions want more development and more waste so they can then force us to build the 3 BILLION dollar groundwater sucking pipeline from central Nevada.
BTW-the golf courses use "partially treated waste water". Take a look at the small waterfall at the Lake Las Vegas entrance. More scum on the rocks than in North Las Vegas. Disgusting...
Yeah, we all get the whole conserve water thing but what most of you need to get is that people just like yourselves work and live off those courses and casinos staying alive. I guess that doesnt matter though right as long as there is water huh? Thanks for the humanity negative posters.
All golf courses with the exception of "target" courses will be closed because of the water shortages, in the next 3-4 years. Oh wait i forgot we are bringing water in from Northern Nevada in a pipeline ! We can have all the golf courses we want, and ruin whats left of the rest of the state !
Let me correct solar .Fountains at Bellagio That water is part of the our allocation, and I believe the Feds considered it as part of Lake Mead . Maybe you better do a little research first before you make such a stupid comment.
If the planet were devoid of human interaction as of today, then yes... there would be no hope for Lake Las Vegas (or anywhere) but that's the extreme it would take to mark the resort off the map. Everyone is struggling, even wealthy individuals, we're aware of that but don't think Lake Las Vegas won't bounce back like the rest of the country. They'll struggle for some time no doubt, that's inevitable, but in time maybe developers will buy up what's available and possibly build golf course homes or high-end condos along the greens. Maybe another company will step in and revive the courses, nobody really knows. Time will tell the outcome but Lake Las Vegas is not going away.