HIGHER EDUCATION:
At UNLV, president’s wife raises eyebrows
Her ‘abrasive’ style should be part of his review, Rogers says
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Senate Majority Leader Steven Horsford, left, shows an award to UNLV president David Ashley and his wife, Bonnie, at an exhibition in February dedicated to Mohandas K. Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr. and Daisaku Ikeda at UNLV’s Richard Tam Alumni Center.
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UPDATED STORY: Wife of UNLV president sends apology note to Rogers, regents
UNLV President David Ashley was receiving congratulations in early May. A consultant had just given him a positive preliminary evaluation, calling him a “quiet, brilliant” leader.
Just one month later Ashley is in a very different position. Jason Geddes, vice chairman of the higher education system’s Board of Regents, said Wednesday that he has concerns about the president’s performance.
Jim Rogers, the system’s chancellor, said the consultant’s evaluation was deficient. “I do not believe that it adequately covered the issues that should be examined,” he said.
Rogers, whose last day as chancellor is June 30, declined to comment on whether he would recommend extending Ashley’s contract, which expires next year.
How could Ashley’s standing change so quickly?
As it turns out, it didn’t. Trouble has been brewing for a while. Many UNLV employees have complained that the president communicates poorly with the campus community. Some higher education system administrators have said he is unresponsive to their concerns.
One major problem that has so far escaped the public eye, and which the consultant failed to address, Rogers said, is the alleged bullying of campus employees by the president’s wife, Bonnie Ashley.
Rogers, who has spoken with many campus workers about the issue, said her behavior is a serious concern.
“I’ve heard that she’s been very abrasive and aggressive toward system employees, that there have been threats, maybe of discipline of system employees, and that there are more than just a few employees who are intimidated by her,” Rogers said.
It’s the type of behavior that could expose the system to lawsuits, he said. Although he has not determined whether all the allegations are true, what he knows so far worries him.
He said when employees feel intimidated, “You tend to kill ideas that people will have. You kill their desire to work for the system. You frighten them and their basic ability to make a living because they come to work every day wondering if there’s going to be some arbitrary decision made that affects their lives.”
David and Bonnie Ashley said her involvement in campus affairs should not be considered in his evaluation.
Bonnie Ashley said although she has told employees who have made mistakes that they need to do a better job, she has not threatened to discipline anyone: “I have never done that. Absolutely not. That is not my job.”
Regents will vote in August on whether to extend her husband’s contract. The grievances about her, which have been circulating for months, raise questions about the way the higher education system evaluates presidents.
Rogers said that after speaking with people ranging from secretaries to administrators, “I know that there is a feeling of frustration on campus that the evaluation was not thorough.”
To gauge Ashley’s performance, evaluator John Welty, president of the California State University at Fresno, interviewed 59 people including faculty, students and community leaders over two days.
Some meetings were planned to last 15 minutes. Others consisted of conversations with groups of stakeholders, not one-on-one discussions. Rogers said he was not interviewed by Welty.
The consultant has not submitted a final evaluation, but he praised the UNLV president widely in a preliminary report, leveling few criticisms.
Bryan Spangelo, a faculty senate member, said he and the current faculty senate chairman spoke to Welty together for 20 minutes. Their talk, scheduled for a half-hour, was cut short because Welty was running late, Spangelo said.
“My impression was that he wasn’t going to take us seriously,” said Spangelo, who shared several concerns with the consultant. One was the way the UNLV president was handling the development of a hate crimes policy that many professors feared would stifle free speech.
Welty declined to comment this week on the thoroughness of his evaluation or whether he had heard complaints regarding Bonnie Ashley, saying it would be inappropriate to do so before completing his final report.
His initial assessment, which he gave verbally to a committee of higher education regents and other stakeholders, did not cover interactions between Bonnie Ashley and university staff.
But according to Rogers, Welty was aware of complaints regarding the president’s spouse when delivering the preliminary review.
Rogers said he has spoken with David Ashley on several occasions about the way the president’s wife has allegedly treated employees, who have helped her with tasks such as scheduling events and planning university parties at the home she shares with the president.
E-mails UNLV provided to the Sun in response to a public records request shed light on Bonnie Ashley’s relationship with campus employees.
In one December Monday morning missive to UNLV’s special events manager, the vice president for advancement and the assistant president/chief of staff, Bonnie Ashley demanded to see updated party guest lists “WITHIN THE HOUR.” (Download this e-mail)
“You all are paid way too much for me to have to put up with the constant problems I am dealing with, and it’s just wasting my time,” she wrote. At the end of the e-mail she reiterates: “I want a full and complete update on every aspect of the parties as of right now.”
Also in December, she sent the events manager a message following a confrontation over the number of skewers the employee had ordered for a party.
“I should not have to tell you this ... you do NOT argue with the first lady nor yell at her to let you do your job ... that behavior is completely unacceptable,” wrote Bonnie Ashley, who frequently calls herself “the first lady.” (Download this e-mail)
“I am sorry I have to be so firm,” she added, “but you need to understand my position and responsibilities, and your place in all that we do.”
In January, Bonnie Ashley e-mailed the president’s assistant to say that someone had falsely told a newspaper that she was making demands of UNLV, including asking for a university job.
“We do not know who is making the calls, and so we are not allowing anyone to handle any of my information right now,” she wrote. “I get paid nothing, give my services for free, and I get crap in return ... and am sick of it. We do not know at this time who it is, so no offense, but everyone is suspect until we find out for sure. It may include me subpoenaing telephone records and Internet search information from University computers. I will not stand for anyone being disloyal.”
Rogers said some of the e-mails he reviewed were “excessive.”
David Ashley on Tuesday defended his wife as a “wonderful partner” and said people at the UNLV Foundation have asked that she participate more in university life. In an e-mail, the president wrote that the Sun’s questions implied that the chancellor might ask him to “control my wife.”
“I can tell you that I respect women too much, especially my wife, to consider such a request as even remotely appropriate. ‘Controlling my wife’ is an offensive concept that demeans women,” David Ashley wrote. “Bonnie contributes to the university in many ways and I am very grateful for her support and participation.”
Rogers, however, contends that in UNLV affairs, Bonnie Ashley is her husband’s “agent.”
“This is the president’s wife ... When she does A, B and C, and he does not stop her from doing that, it shows that she has implied authority to do those things. She represents him. She represents him at a basketball game or a graduation or whatever. If she does something that is out of line, and if nothing happens, it’s the same as him doing it himself.
“I think Mrs. Ashley has alienated many people,” he said, “and I think it’s essential that she understand that she represents the university when she does these things and it detracts from her husband’s ability to do his job.”
Asked whether he had heard about problems related to Bonnie Ashley, regents Chairman Michael Wixom said, “I am just not going to comment on that. I view that as a personnel issue.”
He also said he could not judge whether Welty’s report on David Ashley is thorough before reviewing a final version.
Wixom said he and some other regents “had questions” about the higher education system’s evaluation process, which allows campus presidents to make recommendations on whom the system should hire to evaluate them. Welty was one of seven candidates Ashley suggested.
The two men worked together on California’s Central Valley Higher Education Consortium when David Ashley was at the University of California at Merced, where he served as a high-ranking administrator before coming to UNLV in 2006.
Besides covering Welty’s travel expenses, the system is paying him $7,500 to complete the evaluation.
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The same thing just happened at the University of Tennessee. The (now former) president's wife went on a tirade and berated a development staffer in front of a bunch of donors at a cocktail party. The staffer broke down in tears and a multi-million dollar donor broke all ties with the University over it. Needless to say, his contract wasn't renewed, either.
Folks, I have been in higher education all my life. Why is it that crap like this always happens in Nevada? Because higher education in Nevada is laughably corrupt!
The president and the "first lady" need to be terminated immediately.
The "first lady" - that is absurd!
UNLV faculty, straighten out your spine and stand up for you school by telling these worthless administrators exactly what you really THINK about them...
Life inside the University Community is so disconnected from reality. This is just an example.
OH MY GOD!!!! Who does she think she is? They deserve each other. Good riddance. As a tax payer I vote for both of their contracts to NOT be renewed!
Beat up the President using his wife, how original for this sexist town; too wimpy to beat up on the guys directly. Every leader has a weakness, but Ashley's are fairly benign compared to, say, the NSHE Chancellor's. The Chancellor can not deal with people who do not cow-tow to him so he uses the media as a weapon to get his way like a five year old; everyone is afraid of him and he uses this fear, all the while deluding himself that he is respected; it's all about his money, people want it so they knuckle under. You would think a man with those kind of resources and relative intelligence would understand the difference between real respect and ruling by intimidation, but then sociopaths are incapable of reason, even the ones with law degrees. Carol Harter didn't knuckle under, now Bonnie Ashley isn't either; seems like the Regents and the System should take a lesson from these women about how to be "real men." If you read the email correspondence between Bonnie and UNLV staff, it is pretty clear that Bonnie is not that well educated and is largely out of her element in higher education, but she is trying very hard to "play ball" with people who are highly educated or at least higher education savvy; this puts her at a disadvantage. You can tell she is also unclear about what the role of a presidential spouse is and so she is play-acting at that, and poorly. But her emails reflect her vulnerabilities and insecurities, more than anything else. Get real: the attack on Ashley is all about the funding formula. He challenged Dan Klaich and the System by going to the legislature to advocate for UNLV alone in the budget crisis when it was clear that Klaich, the system, and the Regents were going to continue to unfairly favor UNR and the North in general; sound familiar? This is exactly what Harter did and it led to her demise as well, despite reports that it had to do with "diversity." No matter how ridiculous the continued favor of UNR and the North is given the state demographics of the last 10 years, there is little public outcry. People are so easily influenced by minutia they miss the big picture. Ashley is committed to UNLV and more pro-faculty than any President in the System. The UNLV faculty senate is just too mired in protecting the mediocrity of the old guard to understand this. If Ashley goes, the faculty will get a wake up call. Ashley fiercely defends tenure; others in the System are looking for ways to get rid of it. It should be a far greater concern to the public and the faculty that Rogers bought the Chancellorship and now Klaich has been knighted Chancellor without a national search, and neither have any higher education background. This is all about crippling UNLV to protect UNR and the North's control of state resources (which disadvantages minorities); it is also about laying the groundwork to get rid of tenure. WAKE UP PEOPLE!
Makes you wonder how his previous job ended....
Why don't they ban her from university events during the investigation?
After reading the specific emails sited here, some of her technical points are valid regarding budget etc. However the tone of her email is completely off base. Speaking in third person is never a good look, it just screams "I am a megalomaniac, and I will cry if I want to"
Complaining to a University employee about the earnings you forgave for your husband to take the new role is not appropriate along with any other type of commentary about the pay scale of public employees who in many cases could be earning much more in the private sector.
Take this as a teaching moment and adopt my 3 T's of communication:
Tone
Tact
Timing
Mrs. Ashley, minor tweaks in your communication style may reap you and our community great rewards as the content of your message is often correct; however, the character in which you deliver it is not in line with what is needed from leadership.
Sidenote:
Take a lesson from Lois Tarkanian, the true first Lady of UNLV... run for office and don't tell the waterboy how many cups to fill for the games. She has developed a legacy of her own ,independent of her husbands, and will be remembered for her lasting contributions to the community.
Whoa, Bonnie! Now that the original Queen of Mean is gone it looks like you want to step into her boots! Perhaps you should be a wee bit easier on all those "little people" you are stuck with working with. :)
Yikes! Ish.
chairdean, Are you impaired? Harter favored UNR? How ridiculous. Your tirade is uncalled for and lacks any truth. Bonnie Ashley needs to be drawn down before she gets UNLV a big judgement as a result of the many law suits she is inviting.
You need a time out.
I'd like to hear an article that gives her side of the story.
Yikes.
Could you imagine coming home to that royal B every night?
She not only sounds like a megalomaniac, but also seems like a very stupid person. I learned in high school never to use ALL CAPS in an email.
Is she not smart enough to know that documentation of such vile behavior from a public official's wife is like gold to the media?
I feel bad for him.....she's holding him back. And if she's blind to the fact that she's a bully, she needs some serious therapy.
S711
Chairdean's comment is incoherent. Criticizing the president for his wife's behavior is valid if that behavior puts the system at risk of a lawsuit. Bonnie Ashley's role is to show up at events, smile, and keep her mouth shut. No one, except her husband, should have to put up with her crap. Carol Harter at least was on UNLV's payroll; this dillweed did nothing more then marry the president. And please, she's getting an attitude over party planning details? This moron should find something slightly more important to get pissy about.
Chairdean.... your wall of text broke my eye. Too long, didn't read.
Paragraphs please.
Since when did university presidents' wives have any say about university staff? What the hell is going on at UNLV?
Pres to wife; "Yes, Mommy."
And yes Chairdean, you might very well have some good points in your block of text. It's too bad you took all that time to write something completely unreadable.
They're called paragraphs. And they were invented for a reason.
Reread Homer--Harter favored UNLV against UNR...
Sorry the "wall of text"--less than 500 words mind you--is too much for so many people--I forgot the average newspaper caters to people with no more than an eight grade education. I myself went all the way to the 9th grade.
Again, wake up...no wonder this crap just persists year after year...I thought UNLV might actually catch up to the 21st Century with Ashley...but it is now clear things will never change...
Not a smart way to conduct yourself Ashley in a town with a bunch of unions.
Those emails are remarkable. Between Rogers and this raging goofball I think I am starting to agree with Gibbons regarding the cutting of funding to UNLV.
Keep the hospitality program and the profitable athletic teams and scrap the rest.
Giving money to UNLV to see the mess Rogers and company have made out of the place is akin to tossing it down a well.
chairdean -- Try keeping it pithy, please. :)
The peculiar timing of this story leads me to think that it is not really all that much about Bonnie Ashley and her emails. Admittedly these are tone-deaf and in questionable taste; but such is not unusual in NSHE's often tact-challenged environment, where I also work.
The real issue, I believe, is an apparent lack of an open job search for the next NSHE Chancellor. This may or may not be out-of-policy according to the NSHE REGENTS' HANDBOOK; but given the elaborate, expensive public failings of our current Chancellor and and his band of equally clueless regents and their staffs, I find it unseemly (if not surprising) that they do not now seek to competitively choose the next chancellor in an open national search, instead of simply selecting another potentially mediocre-to-poor leader from among themselves.
I am no great fan of David Ashley as UNLV President, but (that said) given Mr. Ashley's academic background and other genuine academic experience, he does seem a more viable candidate, even if perhaps not the best possible candidate, for NSHE Chancellor than current Chancellor Jim Rogers's apparent hand-picked successor, a system lawyer.
Mr. Rogers and the regents no doubt recognize this fact as well as anyone; unfortunately they choose, as NSHE continues spiraling downhill for lack of any decent leadership whatsoever, to ignore it.
Sherry Rosenthal
(CSN English professor)
Chairdean, intimidating university employees is unacceptable, if not illegal, behavior, no matter where it's coming from. Any intimidation of an employee by someone of greater power/influence is an actionable offense. Of course it's relevant to the review of Ashley's performance as president.
It is also properly and uniquely the concern of the Chancellor. That's the very structure of intimidation: it leaves the targeted party, with less power, no recourse to challenge to defend him/herself. Only someone higher up than the president could safely question the behavior of the "first lady" without fear of reprisal.
And to call Rogers "sexist" for his concern is incoherent, as others above have mentioned. In fact, it's ludicrous. Clearly, you don't know the man (or his wife!) at all.
The lawyers will be lining up to handle this harrassment lawsuit. She needs to get off of her high horse before she says the wrong thing to the wrong person!
Jim Rogers is a power hungry db. You can't trust the bullspit he spouts.
This has all the feel and smell of a hatchet job. Why the chancellor, faculty senate president (past or current), regent and the newspaper spend so much time criticizing the president's wife --- or even publicly commenting on rumored behavior makes one shake his head in disbelief. Is the issue about Ashley's management style and performance or is it about his wife? None of these critics have said they have personally witnessed her being rude and yet they feel comfortable giving the accusations credence by publicly discussing it. All of this---if true---could have handled internally. It reeks of a good ole boy system being offended and feeling threatened. Carol Harter had to be put in her place and now Bonnie Ashley must be put in her place....and it must be done by a public flogging.
Anyone who has worked in any commercial industry (where the focus tends to be "satisfy the customer in order to turn a profit") and now works for a government bureaucracy (where the focus tends to be "keep your job with minimum effort"), will recognize this scenario.
Bonnie Ashley was not asked to run around UNLV giving hugs and passing out lollipops to delicate and incompetent employees. However, when she didn't do that, the employees turned on her. Bonnie's biggest mistake was not realizing that many government employees tend to consider themselves far too precious to have to be held accountable for their work.
btw: To Tori Klein, Special Events Manager at UNLV -- Having carefully read the email exchange it seems pretty apparent that Mrs. Ashley wants no more than 54 skewers. That should clear up any confusion. Please do what is requested of you, work within the budget, and stop charging the state of Nevada to make you feel comfortable.
Wow, this woman is out of control! Who does she think she is -- she doesn't even have a job.
Ranger -
I happen to agree with you in regards to commercial industry v. government bureaucracy. I am employed by UNLV, and have seen my peers begin to adopt the "keep your job with minimum effort" approach. It's disappointing to me, since I moved from across the country to accept my position here.
That being said, regardless of if employees "consider themselves far too precious to have to be held accountable for their work", Mrs. Ashley's approach to handling frustration and displeasure was inappropriate and out of line. I'm disappointed that she would think that it would be ok to treat others that way.
I also think it stinks that this is being played out in the media, especially when UNLV is trying to maneuver through the budget discussions. This should have been an internal investigation.
On a side note, I do encourage the Board of Regents to take a serious look at President Ashley's contributions to UNLV. I am not pleased with his approach to moving the institution forward, nor am I pleased with his capability to communicate with fellow administrators and departments across campus.
I don't, however, feel that Mrs. Ashley's actions should be considered in President Ashley's consideration for contract renewal.
And, in a side note, I am displeased that Jim Rogers chose to use the phrase "Reign her in", in reference to President Ashley and the actions of his wife. Last time I checked, Mr. Rogers, the year was 2009, not 1915. If you could catch up, that'll be great.
And, ranger, in defense of Tori Klein, from basic event planning standards, it is procedure to order more than needed. She has had years of experience planning events, and I am sure her approach was to save Mrs. Ashley embarrassment if (and when) they ran out of food. Tori's response to Mrs. Ashley's rude and out-of-line e-mail is clearly an example of an employee wanting to put Mrs. Ashley in her place, but is smart enough to hold her tongue.
Ranger, it actually sounds like, based on your scathing "shoutout" to Tori, have some communication skills similar to Mrs. Ashley.
she'll give her story, 4th miller
Ranger, so you are implying that Bonnie Ashley actually has a defined role on the UNLV campus? Is she a paid UNLV employee who has a specific department or staff that she is responsible for?
No. She is the wife of the President. She has no official role on campus. She has no authority over staff. Other than using her leverage as Mr. Ashley's wife as intimidation.
So if I have your side straight, Ranger - her position was to give orders to UNLV staff members that she had no direct control over, and when they didn't satisfy her demands, they proved to be nothing more than examples of lazy public employees? And thus she had every right to act like a narcissistic bully, even though she had no authority to do so?
I simply can't believe some of the comments here excusing the ridiculous behavior of Bonnie Ashley. People like Ranger who think the employees somehow deserve this type of treatment. How sad.
Further, I suggest to Mrs. Ashley that she consider taking a refresher in English 101. Reading her email exchanges was like reading a 4th graders chickenscratch. Then again, overly angry, spiteful people are rarely coherent.
Sounds like UNLV needs to downsize. Take a look at the parking lot and see all of the reserved spots for non-teaching positions. Think if they eliminate the President's postion and some of the others, the university can concentrate on teaching! The management layer should be Professor, Dean of Department and Chancellor. UNLV needs to join the 21st Century of management practices of a flat structure.
In this article, Jim Rogers said when employees feel intimidated, "You tend to kill ideas that people will have. You kill their desire to work for the system. You frighten them and their basic ability to make a living because they come to work every day wondering if there's going to be some arbitrary decision made that affects their lives."
Seriously Jim, you should know. Your Sunbelt Communications employees understand being intimidated all too well. Red faced, spewing obsenities, etc.
Hey, Las Vegas Sun. Now THAT may be a story worth pursuing!
clearly this lady has overstepped her bounds at my alma mater...and it seems she needs the ego checked along with her abuse of perceived power.
That said, the emails seemed eyebrow raising, but not nearly as provocative as the article, and subsequent backlash, received; but, maybe it should be a warning to all public officials out there (and their spouses), don't let the power (or perceived power) get to your heads. Treat people like well as tax payers, students, AND ALUMNI would expect (in case that's too cryptic, be considerate and use tact).
Professor Rosenthal is absolutely correct. Jim Rogers is using smoke and mirror to direct people's attention away from his giving his personal possession of the Chancellorship to another lawyer, Dan Klaich.
It is Jim Rogers's personal possession, isn't it, the Chancellorship of NSHE?
Enough of the crap, Jim Rogers! You should know about bullyism. You found it unbearable Bonnie's way? More so because she was a woman? Reign her in??? Charity starts from home. How about straightening yourself up by STOPPING being a bully!
I think she needs to complete High School, as well as enroll in a good Charm School!
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Well I see you cowards removed my comment. Why? Are you guy's (the SUN) UNLV puppets? Or was the ball in your mouth?
she has balls??? picture doesn't capture his...theoretically there
Exactly how many people went to Singapore? Who paid for it? How much did it cost the taxpayers? Isn't there a better way to spend money at UNLV than to send 10-12 people to Singapore?
Investigate this, newspaper.
Only in Nevada! So much for fundraising. This soap opera is truly absurd. Smatresk is dull beyond belief. He covers everything up for the sake of his close friends. People don't belief a word he says.
The situation at UNLV is only going to get worse. At least David Ashley was a nice guy. He was an adequate president who couldn't control his wife. What's left at the top with Smatresk and most of his Deans (there a few great ones who actually have a personality and don't need anger management classes) is truly the dark side.
Has anyone mentioned lawsuit! What goes on behind closed doors at UNLV is truly creepy. Bonnie Ashley's behavior is mild compared to some of the administrators who make ridiculous salaries and will do anything to hold onto their positions. Maybe the Board of Regents and legislature are aware of the kind of people in management positions at UNLV and chose to fund UNR because of their awful behavior. People on the BOR and in the legislature probably can see through disingenuousness buttkissing of these bullies. They surely heard some of the stories of ill treatment dished out by such people. Clean house and start over.