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twitterLetter to the editor:
Hamas deserves greater scrutiny
Tuesday, Jan. 13, 2009 | 2:02 a.m.
I would like to thank the Las Vegas Sun for printing Brian Greenspun’s Sunday column on Hamas, headlined “Cease-fire must first apply to the aggressor — Hamas.”
You would think that news companies such as CNN know that Hamas stores weapons and such in hospitals, schools and civilian buildings.
Hamas also controls whatever pictures and videos it wants the public to see. Hamas needs to take responsibility for the civilian deaths occurring in Gaza.
The world needs to stop putting all the blame on Israel. Thank you for taking a stand.
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Amen!I agree with the Nancy Williams.
It is comforting to know that Obama, Reid and Pelosi are standing and will stand behind Israel 100% despite the strong anti-Israel feelings in the base of the Democratic Party.
That takes courage. Good work!
The world is not putting all the blame on Israel.
The blame is shared.
Characterizing Democrats as anti-Israel taints everything else you say.
Most of opposition to Israel does not come from the Republican Party or the right. It comes people who are from the Democratic Party and the left.
The top of the Democratic Party is 100% behind Israel but a significant number of the rank and file are not.
Recent poll: "Sixty-two percent (62%) of Republicans back Israel's decision to take military action against the Palestinians, but only half as many Democrats (31%) agree"
That is a clear example of the Democratic leadership supporting Israel's military action while it goes against the rank and file which is strongly against it.
Go to left wing blogs like the DailyKOS and see the rants against Israel.
Example (read the post):
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/07/pro-...
I completely understand why the Jewish people contribute tons of money and time to the Democratic party. They need to keep their thumbs on those crazy left people.
"Most of opposition to Israel...comes people who are from the Democratic Party and the left."
Opposition to Israel (i.e. anti-Israel) cannot be equated directly from opposition to them attacking Palestine or solving the conflict though war.
I opposing the war in Iraq does not make one anti-US.
Huh, opposing an action by the state is now the same thing as opposing the state?
What are we, five years old?
Oh wait, it's jfnance32's brilliant conclusions.
The below is true no matter how you spin it.
Recent poll: "Sixty-two percent (62%) of Republicans back Israel's decision to take military action against the Palestinians, but only half as many Democrats (31%) agree"
That is a clear example of the Democratic leadership supporting Israel's military actions when it goes against most of the rank and file of Democrats who do not support it.
Hmmm. I wonder why Nance is quoting a single sentence out of an article with more than 20 paragraphs?
Let's read the next line from his cherry-picked quotation.
"A majority of Democrats (55%) say Israel should have tried to find a diplomatic solution first, a view shared by just 27% of Republicans."
Wait, rank-and-file Dems want diplomacy before war? Only Nance is surprised.
Clearly, in prioritizing diplomacy before war, the Democrats are showing their utter hatred of Israel, right Nance?
"A majority of Democrats (55%) say Israel should have tried to find a diplomatic solution first, a view shared by just 27% of Republicans."
That must be because of the right-wing view that Arabs are bad and Jews are good. What was it Ann Coulter said? Kill their leaders and convert them?
Ya, I don't agree with that. I think it's stupid, as in, a clearly uneducated simpletons' view.
"Clearly, in prioritizing diplomacy before war, the Democrats are showing their utter hatred of Israel, right Nance?"
Putting words into people's mouths.....no way......theBS would never do that.
Again, I repeat it very slooooooowly.
Democratic leadership supports Israel's choice of military action over diplomacy.
A majority of the rank and file of Democrats do not support Israel's choice of miliatry action over diplomacy.
I am praising the Democratic leadership. They are standing up to the majority of their members.
Israel is correct to launch military action when they were getting attack every day.
I am glad that the Democratic leadership is in agreemenet with me and against the majority of its members.
Actually, that's not all that you said.
Let me quote it back for you. An actual quote, this time, not a misquote which removes words.
"It is comforting to know that Obama, Reid and Pelosi are standing and will stand behind Israel 100% despite the strong anti-Israel feelings in the base of the Democratic Party."
Your proof of "strong anti-Israel feelings in the base of the Democratic Party?" A POLL which says most Democrats favor diplomacy over a military response.
First, you're extrapolating the sentiment of all Democrats from a single poll.
Secondly, you're misleading the results of that poll to say that favoring diplomacy somehow makes one have "anti-Israel feelings."
Finally, you conveniently do not quote the poll results which found that a mere 7% of Democrats feel Israel is an enemy of the United States.
7% of Democrats are "anti-Israel." The rest see reality: someone of what Israel does is effective and some of it is counter-productive.
Welcome to reality, Nance.
Yes, wanting diplomatic success over military campaigns is a great idea. Less people die that way.
If that makes me anti-Israel, then I am happy to be so!!
theBS is saying that if someone believes that Israel is not the enemy of the USA then therefore that excludes them from being anti-Israel.
OK.....LOL....good logic....not!
I am sure there are some Democrats that are anti-Israel and believe that the US and Israel are not enemies.
Hamas is anti-Israel and believes that Israel is an ally of the US and not an enemy of the US.
The reality:
Democratic leadership is supporting and has supported Israel decision to use military force first instead of diplomacy.
They are being courageous for those leaders are standing up to the majority of the rank and file Democrats that oppose that move by Israel.
I believe that theBs will turn blue in the face befor saying that the Democratic leadership is standing up against the majority of rank and file members.
There he goes........he looks like a smurf.
Yes, there is a wide spectrum, and to pronounce people who want diplomacy as "anti-Israel" makes me blue in the face, jfnance32.
It is the same old Karl Rove trick of anyone who was against the war was not a patriot.
You sure are putting alot of faith into a single poll.
Polls are frequently wrong. Weren't we supposed to have a Hillary Clinton vs. Rudy Guiliani general election? If you believed the polls that was what we were supposed to have.
Turned out it was 100% wrong.
Maybe you should rethink believing polls so much, jfannc32.
You guys are so funny.
None of you will ever say: "Democratic leadership is supporting and has supported Israel decision to use military force first instead of diplomacy. They do this despite the fact that majority of the rank and file Democrats are against it."
ksand99.....Papa Smurf??????
Yes, I am not sure that your portrayal of the "rank and file" is true.
Rasmussen has been wrong before. But if you want to base all of your beliefs on polls, go right ahead... just be prepared to be wrong, frequently.
And that is Officer Papa Smurf to you.
I am glad that in your opinion that you believe that the majority of rank and file Democrats agree with their leadership and they, all, support Israel's decision to use military actions first instead of diplomacy.
Putting words into people's mouths.....no way......jfnance32 would never do that.
I wonder, is that hypocritical? What do the polls say?
ksand99:
Typical.....which way is the wind blowing....
1st.... you agree and say the rank and file are for diplomacy 1st and against military action 1st just like the polls says
Then ....you say the poll is probably wrong which means that the rank and file are for military actions 1st.
Can you make up your mind?
Yikes,
A quick couple of things on topic (that's the *original* topic -- you appear to be having fun flaming each other about spell damage and armor class...):
1. The "blame" lies entirely with Hamas, that's why military solution followed failed diplomatic solution (some rockets got launched, Israel met the insecure agressive enregy with calm assertive energy).
2. A bully is different from a worthy adversary in that a bully will leave you alone when you fight back.
3. Hamas will probably never back down, so they should receive 'corrections' until they do.
Somebody hijacked this thread and turned it into a flame war citing information from POLLS!!! SHAME ON YOU (worse than that is somebody took the bait)!! Three types of lies anyone? Lie, damn lie, and statistic. YHBT!
"If the only tool you have is a rocket, you tend to see every problem as Southern Israel."