Saturday, Dec. 19, 2009 | 2 a.m.
Harry Reid
Sun Archives
- Midnight Senate session to clear decks for health care debate (12-17-2009)
- GOP request for reading of 767 pages stalls health debate (12-16-2009)
- Senators optimistic on health bill, minus public option (12-15-2009)
- Obama on health care: Harry Reid ‘is going to get it done’ (12-15-2009)
- Harry Reid, Dems meet to keep health bill alive (12-14-2009)
- Sen. Joseph Lieberman’s opposition could derail health bill compromise (12-13-2009)
- Compromise means ‘more choices’ for insurance (12-9-2009)
- Report: Democrats reach deal to drop government-run plan (12-8-2009)
- The skinny on the health care reform bills in each chamber of Congress (11-22-2009)
- Senate bill would cover Medicaid expansion for all states (11-19-2009)
- Long-sought , Harry Reid's goal of health care reform a step closer (11-19-2009)
- 2,074-page health bill includes surgery, payroll tax hike (11-18-2009)
- Harry Reid to present $849 billion health care bill (11-18-2009)
Sun Coverage
The Senate today convenes its third weekend session in a row, beginning an around-the-clock effort to overcome Democratic infighting, a wall of Republican opposition and slipping support in the polls to approve the health care legislation before Christmas.
Time under the Capitol dome often passes like dog years — so much happens so quickly that one day feels like seven.
Such was the case this week, which started Sunday with Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, the Independent, blowing up Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s carefully crafted health care compromise with his opposition — threatening to doom the entire bill. It ended Friday with a new compromise plan and Lieberman on board, but Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska holed up in Reid’s office as a last holdout.
Those watching from home may wonder why all the fuss over a bill that started as the once-lofty goal of the late Sen. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts to bring Medicare to all, but is ending up as watered-down compromises that have disappointed even President Barack Obama’s strongest supporters.
Gone is the public option.
In Nevada, opinions are mixed on the public plan, with one poll showing 55 percent opposed to the public option when it was portrayed as a government-run plan, but another poll showing a slim majority, 52 percent, in support when it was described as an alternative to private insurers.
Gone, too, is the public option’s alternative — a proposed expansion of Medicare eligibility to those aged 55 to 64, which polling from the Kaiser Family Foundation has shown enjoys widespread support.
And lost is an attempt to allow the importation of prescription drugs from Canada and other countries, which many saw as a way to preserve the deal the pharmaceutical industry cut with the White House to pony up $100 billion toward lower drug costs.
Still, most Democratic senators remain committed to passing the bill.
Supporters think what remains are substantial insurance reforms that have been sought for years:
• New rules will end despised industry practices, such as denying coverage for pre-existing conditions.
• The uninsured will be able to buy policies much the way members of Congress do, from a menu of private companies in an exchange managed by the government.
• And 30 million uninsured Americans will be required to buy policies, many with the help of government subsidies.
“Let’s all take a deep breath, and consider just how much good this bill would do, if passed — and how much better it would be than anything that seemed possible just a few years ago,” wrote Paul Krugman, the liberal economist and columnist for The New York Times.
“With all its flaws, the Senate health bill would be the biggest expansion of the social safety net since Medicare, greatly improving the lives of millions.”
For Obama — and for Reid and other officials running for re-election during the 2010 midterm election — passage of the bill is crucial to Democrats’ electoral strategy. An imperfect bill is better than a Congress and White House that appear dysfunctional, the reasoning goes.
Democrats must show that the party in charge of government can function. Reid, especially, has tied his political future to the bill that will bear his name, linking him irrevocably with health care reform.
Polls this week show support dipping for the legislation, even as majorities think it is more important than ever to pursue health care, according to the monthly tracking poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation.
Leading Democrats, from former party Chairman Howard Dean to Markos Moulitsas, the influential founder of the liberal blog Daily Kos, suggest it would be better to kill the bill.
Many liberals and progressives want to drop the mandate that all Americans must carry insurance, saying without a public-run option, the requirement will merely serve up 30 million new customers to an industry with no guarantee of lower-priced premiums.
“America needs real health care reform — not a massive giveaway to the insurance companies,” read a petition from MoveOn.org urging Democratic senators to block the bill until it is improved.
Bob Fulkerson, director of the Progressive Leadership Alliance of Nevada, among the state’s leading liberal voices, acknowledged the disappointment. “There is no question it is demoralizing to lose both the public option and the Medicare buy-in,” he said.
The Nevadan is among those who remain hopeful that the final bill, once it emerges from the Senate and is merged with the more progressive version from the House, could be improved.
But making fixes later is a dicey proposition, as evidenced by the legislative gymnastics Reid has endured to secure what appears to be a growing but fragile consensus among his 60 senators.
With Republicans vowing to block the bill, Reid needs every vote from his 60-member caucus to reach the supermajority necessary to overcome Republican opposition.
The extent to which Republicans will go to stop the process could be seen midweek when Republican Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, who delights in being referred to as Dr. No, required the full reading of a 767-page amendment. Eventually Democrats relented and withdrew the amendment.
“It is our intention not to pass this bill easily,” said Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader.
Under one scenario, the Senate would begin a series of votes at 1 a.m. Monday, with final passage at 7 p.m. Christmas Eve. This presumes Republicans will require every minute of debate entitled to them, rather than pursuing the more gentlemanly route of ceding time as is often done once it becomes evident that passage is inevitable.
But these are not gentlemanly times, and McConnell said Friday, “I think we’ve made it rather clear we’re not going to expedite consideration of the health care bill.”
Reid, meanwhile, is playing it close to the vest, as he often does.
Even Sen. Richard Durbin of Illinois, who as majority whip is responsible for rounding up votes, could not, or would not, disclose late in the week whether the 60 votes were secured. “Sen. Reid is the one who has been keeping that pretty close,” he said.







""Leading Democrats, from former party Chairman Howard Dean to Markos Moulitsas, the influential founder of the liberal blog Daily Kos, suggest it would be better to kill the bill.
Many liberals and progressives want to drop the mandate that all Americans must carry insurance...""
""America needs real health care reform -- not a massive giveaway to the insurance companies," read a petition from MoveOn.org urging Democratic senators to block the bill""
""Ben Nelson opposites paying for abortions""
Inept Senator Harry Reid has decided it is okay to have an IMPERFECT health insurance bill fashioned by Unions, special interests, trial lawyers, and lobbyist.
Clueless Greid's destructive bill will cost $849 billion plus the $247 billion "doc fix" (in the defense bill) plus the $490 billion taken from seniors Medicare or $1.587 trillion. Increase private insurance premiums by 10%, and don't forget the billions for Unions and Senators Payola.
- At 1.587 billion it is NOT deficit-neutral. What this does is move money from our pocket to the government, Insurers, Hospitals, and Pharmaceuticals.
- CBO does not score a bend in the cost curve
- Eliminated the public option and the Medicare buy-in
- Keeps the insurance industries anti-trust exemption
- Keeps insurance company limit on annual health care payouts
- Insurance companies will make more money
- Hospitals will make more money
- Prevents the importation of cheap drug from Canada
- Pharmaceutical companies will make more money
- 18 million still NOT covered by health insurance
- A wait time of 6 months if you have a pre-condition
- installs a "Payment Advisory Commission" (wage, price, and rationing control board)
- Mandatory changes to current insurance policies in five years
- Private insurance premium increases 10%
- $490 billion taken away from senior's Medicare would reduce care per the report from Richard S. Foster of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Foster's office acts is independent technical evaluator (like CBO) , serving both the administration and Congress.
- $280 billion NOT paid to Doctors for services rendered
- A new 5.4% surcharge tax on small businesses
- A new 5.4% income tax surcharge
- Subsidies premiums for people making $88k
- Allows paying for abortions
- It does NOT include tort reform to save money
- It does NOT allow private insurance plans to cross state lines
- It does NOT reduce the cost of healthcare providers
- It does NOT have a enforceable Individual mandate
- It does NOT allow for "catastrophic" healthcare policies.
- It does NOT preclude cost shifting.
- It does NOT impose tort reform to reduce defensive medicine.
What is Harry Reid doing?
the senate bill amounts to nothing more than a handout to the insurance companies...
kinda like the bailout of wall street...
except the insurance companies are already profitable...
it forces people to buy insurance...
and...
if you don't...
the irs comes a knocking...
the insurance companies won...
just look at their stock prices over the past month...
they won big time...
the percentage of gdp spent on health will mushroom from 18% to 24%...
the economy will be in further decline...
now...
the saddest part of all is...
the stupid pathetic lying republicans are just too damn stupid to realize that they helped the insurance company win...
good god they are dumb...
who the hell would want to join the stupid pathetic lying republican party these days...
only l-o-s-e-r-s!!!
"the stupid pathetic lying republicans are just too damn stupid to realize that they helped the insurance company win..."
Birdiedreamin did you miss the part where DEMOCRAT SENATOR HARRY GREID IS MAKING THE BILL UP IN SECRET IN HIS OFFICE
The true irony is that everyone from trial lawyers hospitals and insurance companies padded these bills with perks, but left out the ones who actually provide the care, doctors and nurses. Good luck trying to get help when your doctor cares about as much as a better paid plumber. Economics will drive the "Taco Bell" workers into health care. Take a number! Note: no offense to the great Taco Bell employees was intended!
If this bill becomes law you will see a greater revolution than the first one that this country had. This bill takes away many of our freedoms and bankrupts this country. Wake up !!!!!!!
Future, the bird has left our atmosphere for quite a long time and has had a major loss of brain cells due to the lack of oxygen. I wished I knew where Lisa has lost her bipartisan reporting, it would show the U.S. that our Republicans are stalling a health care bill which is being written up behind closed doors by the Democrats, and will allow all immigrants(legal and illegal) to get health care by only showing a Social Security card.
This bill requires all medical facilities to hire bilingual staff so they can communicate with those who have not learned English yet. So much for English being our National language.This will cost our citizens.
This bill requires American citizens must pay into the Medical Reform act to recieve medical attention or they will be fined and/or serve jail time. It does not require illegal aliens to pay into the system and does not fine or jail them for not doing so. So again it is up to the American people to empty their pockets for the illegals.
Sen. Rep. Jeff Sessions is amazed this bill contains amendments that are including and giving American Rights to illegal aliens.
I'm amazed that Sen. Ensign made a statement that this bill is giving more right to illegals than it is giving citizens.
At his point with Rep. Luis Gutierriz introducing a monster new Comprehensive Immigration Reform for America's Security and prosperity Act of 2009, HR 4321, in the house, one starts to think how can our elected officials, Rep and Dem., get away with not only writing but sponsoring and trying to pass bills that will only destroy what is left of the middle class. We must inpeach these politicians and charge them with treason, then release them to the countries that these illegal immigrants have slipped in from.
Lisa, you'd better stop putting all that icing on your one sided stories.
Dirty Harry does it again. He just payed Senator Nelson off for his vote to the tune of another $300 million of the country's money. But it's worse than that. Nelson brokered a deal with Dirty Harry which ensures Nebraska will never ever have to pay any additional money into the rising costs of Medicaid. But all other states including Nevada will have to pay more to cover Nebraska's share in the future. Nelson sold his soul and Dirty Harry sold his long ago. It's time to take Dirty Harry down once and for all. And then we need to deport him to Iran.
Who will pay for this outrage?
The Femocrats that forced it upon the American people, starting with Harry Reid. Their ultimate goal is to remake America in the image of the Third World.
Patriots awake!
HELLO SOCIALISM.....GOODBYE DEMOCRACY AND CAPITALISM....
You know as well as I do that insurance companies add no intrinsic value to medical care. They eat up 33 cents of every dollar for administration. If I need anything beyond a simple blood test such as a cholesterol check or a blood count a member of my doctors staff has to sit on the phone for 20 or 30 minutes to get pre-authorization. That costs the doctor money for the staff and costs me time which is money. Healthcare would be more affordable if my doctor didn't need 6 people to fight with the insurance companies. Talk about someone between you and your medical care.
Looks we will belosing more democrats next year. They just talked Sen. Nelson into signing onto the Health Reform bill and it will pass on to becoming a bill. Time to get rid of the Democrats and look past the Republicans and hope the Independents have a candidate who we can trust. Is there no politician that can be trusted any more?
fremmasmind: Can't do the Independent move. All that would do is insure the Democrats win again. The idea is to eliminate as many Democrats as possible. We've seen in the last year what happens when they control both houses with a sitting Democrat president. We need to make sure we vote for and elect Conservative Republican candidates in 2010 and certainly 2012 including the presidency. We need to impress this on all candidates, if you don't have conservative values and morals then.....your out!
What I don't understand about Dirty Harry is how in the world at the ripe age of 70 could anyone be a Flaming Liberal. You are out Dirty Harry! SEE YA!
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I guess this is what a transparent government looks like.
Obama simply states in his speeches that the bill will lower cost and EVERYONE CAN HAVE THIS LOW COST INSURANCE, without stating how he is going to do it. I wonder how many senators have read the bill.
The bill will increase insurance costs on married families making more than $60,000. I guess I am rich and I guess this doesn't count as a tax.
WAKE UP AMERICA!