Sunday, Dec. 13, 2009 | 9:12 p.m.
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WASHINGTON -- The delicate compromise reached in health care talks threatened to unravel Sunday when Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut suggested he could not support the latest proposal to expand Medicare eligibility for uninsured older adults.
“I would have a hard time voting for it,” Lieberman said on the CBS morning show “Face the Nation.”
Lieberman’s opposition could scuttle the tentative deal achieved last week as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid needs support from all 60 members of his caucus, which includes the Independent Democrat.
Reid and Lieberman met midday Sunday in the majority leader’s office after the Connecticut senator’s comments aired on the television show.
The Senate is struggling to pass a bill on President Barack Obama's top domestic priority by year's end. A source inside the Capitol said Lieberman “could easily be blamed as the one who tanked the bill” in the event that it could not achieve the 60 votes need for passage.
Lieberman also reiterated his unwillingness to support the public option plan. When asked if a bill with a public option or the Medicare expansion could pass, Lieberman said no. "There are not 60 votes for that."
But Democratic Sen. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, who also appeared on the show, remained optimistic.
“It can pass, will pass,” Rockefeller said. “It’s not hard for me to feel optimistic. I do, because history calls on us.”
Under the deal reached last week between the Senate’s moderates and Democrats, the legislation would abandon the controversial public option plan in favor of a proposed Medicare expansion, which would allow uninsured 55- to 64-year-olds to buy into Medicare-like coverage.
The deal has not been made public, but elements leaked out last week. The proposed Medicare expansion is thought to appeal to moderates who were concerned about establishing a new public option for the uninsured, while also winning support from liberals who want a government-run alternative to private insurers.
Yet within days, several Democrats expressed concerns about the proposed Medicare expansion, as did Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine, one Republican seen as possibly supporting the Democratic bill.
The White House estimated Friday that 1 million uninsured 55- to 64-year-olds would sign up for what it calls “pre-Medicare,” which it said would be separate from Medicare and pose no risk to the Medicare trust fund.
Lieberman said the only way to pass a bill by Christmas would be to “start subtracting some controversial things.”
“You’ve got to take out the Medicare buy-in. You’ve got to forget about the public option,” Lieberman said. He suggested by doing so, Democrats could win over Snowe and possibly other Republicans, and pass the bill.
The Senate was in session for another rare Sunday vote. Even though the item of business before the chamber was an annual government spending bills, the fragile nature of the health care talks dominated the off-floor action.
Several White House officials were in the building including the administration’s top health policy adviser, Nancy-Ann DeParle, and Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.
Reid and Lieberman met at midday. Progressive groups have pressured Reid in the past to penalize Lieberman when he opposed the public option plan that most Democrats want, suggesting the majority leader should threaten Lieberman’s chairmanship if he fails to fall in line.
But Reid has rebuffed such talk, and the Democratic caucus has not taken up such punitive measures.
“We think Senator Lieberman is going to land on the side of kids and families who need health care,” said a Democratic leadership aide.
The Senate is scheduled to return to the health care bill on Monday, launching the third week of debate. Senators are awaiting a cost-analysis of the proposed compromise plan from the Congressional Budget Office.







Give 'em hell Joe!
The intentions of the principals leading the call and fight for healthcare reform in the Senate, House, Corporate America, healthcare industies and well meaning American citizens through their private lives are genuine, honest and dedicated to the best possible outcomes in a short period of time.
One sixth of the economy is not going to go from point A to a desired point Z in one year of legislation. Change, short of the kind of survival reactions brought on by war that challenges the entire country, is usual incremental and patch-work over time.
In the duration of change there are always going to be unhappy campers, though taken as a whole reform has more good than bad.
Big Pharma has raised their costs considerably this year in anticipation of some kind of bill passing in early 2010. Big Insurance is spending lots of money and working very hard through some well greased Senators in the smaller, more elite Upper Chamber of 100 to take away core essentials of reform, with COST CONTROLS for healthcare purchases by individuals, small businesses, partnerships, small S Corps, and corporations being the main objective of reform, followed by MORE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE COVERAGE by Americans not currently insured.
The healthcare reform bill will pass in early 2010, and it may very well be the best bill obtainable with current representation on Capitol Hill.
What remains the best amendment Congress could afix to the healthcare reform bill is term limits (2 terms, plus perhaps two years for coming in and going out the door), as it is clear from this past year that some are serving for the good of country, and others are serving for themselves and their close support.
With the population increases projected in the United States over the next 50-100 years, perhaps we need to rethink the need for higher salaries for members of Congress, with shorter staying times in office. That way nobody roosts-nests, and perhaps Congress will attract a higher concentration of people with higher skill sets to public policy service. It makes no sense for people in the banking system to be receiving billions in annual bonuses, yet members of Congress oversee trillions of dollars in decision making on their current salaries, with entrenchment being the only long term monetary reward.
Perhaps Joe Leiberman could initiate or sponsor the term limits amendment.
joe supports spending as much amercian blood and treasure as possible fighting israel's battle against israel's enemy...
that's why he supported mccain...
but when it comes to spending treasure on americans...
joe suddenly become fiscally conservative...
beware of jewish american politicians boys and girls...
they often place israel's best interests ahead of america's...
they have a sense of entitlement...
haven't we flushed enough american blood and treasure down that cess pool known as the middle east...
and make no mistake...
there will never be peace in the middle east...
never ever ever...
we have been fighting the war on terror for over 8 years now...
let's check the score board...
shall we...
let's see who is winning...
america...
please...
over 4,250 dead...
over $2 trillion wasted...
that's trillion with a "t"...
started a war based on lies...
world wide reputation ruined...
america is a big big loser in these wars...
iraq...
please...
over 100,000 innocent civilians killed...
nuff said...
iraq is a big big loser in these wars...
afghanistan...
please...
they were ruled by war lords before...
they are ruled by war lords today...
the government is still corrupt, irrelevant and a joke...
same old same old...
afghanistan is a push in these wars...
israel...
bingo...
we have a winner...
winner winner chicken dinner...
israel is at the heart of radical islam's hatred of the west...
arab land was taken to create israel...
arabs want their land back...
arab's hate the fact that america provides essentially unconditional support for israel...
and low and behold...
america is fighting israel's battles against israel's mortal enemies...
now listen up boys and girls...
this is the key....
these battles are being fought with american blood and treasure...
hello...
israel's enemies are being fought by americans with american blood and treasure...
hello...
we have a winner...
the undisputed winner of these wars is the state of israel...
period...
end of story...
critical questions...
did richard perle, paul wolfowitz, doug feith, henry kissinger and others know that israel would be the winner all along and is that why they argued for the invasion of iraq almost immediately after 9/11???
would these folks engage in some good old fashion fear mongering in an effort prolong the use of american blood and treasure in these wars???
will america eventually go broke if they are the only country in the world fighting this battle???
how many more brave young americans must die???
time to strip joe "i love israel more than i love america" lieberman of all committee seniority...
stat...
While universal health may be a good thing in concept, the present bill should be defeated. Late last week we learned that Reid and a select few made a closed-door deal to slip in a cap on annual benefits for critically ill patients - patients who need it the most. The argument offered by Reid's office is that it will lower the cost of premiums. That, though, begs the question of why a person would pay for something that is not going to cover their needs - particularly where, according to the CBO, the minimum annual premium will be around $15,000? But, according to the HOuse version of the bill, pay we must or face prosecution, fines and imprisonment. I jest you not,and this is from the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT):
The JCT issued a letter explaining that:
"H.R. 3962 provides that an individual (or a husband and wife in the case of a joint return) who does not, at any time during the taxable year, maintain acceptable health insurance coverage for himself or herself and each of his or her qualifying children is subject to an additional tax."
"If the government determines that the taxpayer's unpaid tax liability results from willful behavior, the following penalties could apply""
Prosecution is authorized under the Code for a variety of offenses. Depending on the level of the noncompliance, the following penalties could apply to an individual:
Section 7203 -- misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.
Section 7201 -- felony willful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years."
There are too many aspects of the House and Senate health care reform bills that we do not understand, or that have been fully thought through. So, my hope is that Lieberman, and others, kill the bill and that they start over.
http://roadtonovember.com/forum
Joseph Isadore Lieberman's actions define what politics are all about: "A strife of interests,Self and Special, masquerading as a conflict of principle."
Everyone must already know that Politics and Principles are not compatible!
Tom Nass
5th Marine Division - WWII
That's what the "I" means.
Independent.
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Then he should change it to an "R," given that he was a principal spokesman at the last Republican presidential convention.
C'mon Joe millions of thinking Americans are pulling for you.
Teaser.....good advice....you should lead a petition to urge Lieberman to do it.
Obama is sending another 40,000 troops and has commited another $800 million to the war in Afcrapistan. Where is the liberal outrage? All we heard for 7 years was bash the warmongers, but now not a peep from the liberals.
Joe Lieberman threatens to join in opposing Senate health bill that lowers age of Medicare coverage to 55.
Al last a Democrat you can trust and means what he says...
Some good news... thanks Joe, and don't back down.
Not a bad day with news like this. It's even a little better day when you look at the Rassmussen Tracking Poll on Reid... Obama's pull toy.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...
Sounds like someone has ruffled birdies feathers this morning.
Walter?
The "Bird" is upset this morning because he could not fly South this year to celebrate Christmas with his family of famous puking Turkey Buzzards.[Cathartes aura]
It seems like that Al Gore and his Cap and Trade buddies in Congress has declared the "Bird's" emissions as hazardous to global warming and put the "Bird" on the "don't fly list."
So unable to join his family, the "Bird" will remain in his cage, here in Vegas, expressing his love and compassion toward his fellow men.
"I" is for imbecile which describes someone who gives a chairmanship to someone who stumped for Palin. Imbecile also describes someone who left Gried as SML when they had the power to remove him.
Senator Lieberman has the rare gift of perfect delivery in his speechmaking ability. The inflections in his voice, the timing of his sentences, everything is perfect. It is difficult not to believe everything he says.
But in my opinion he has no scruples and will say anything that serves his personal gain. He is not to be trusted. It is a shame he is so persuasive.
Nothing surprising coming from "Say it ain't so Joe" Lieberman. I'm sure we've all heard of Joe before. He's better known as "the Senator from Israel."
Joe is a Republican, who likes to tell people that he's an Independent, but meets in caucus with the Democrats.
Joe belongs to the many insurance companies who call Joe's home state of Connecticut, home.....
Joe know who butters his bread.....the insurance corporations, along with Israel. They bought and paid for Joe a long time ago...
The Democrats had an opportunity to "retire" Joe from the Senate the last time around but failed. Joe was defeated in the Democrat primary, but then turned his back on the Democrats and ran as an Independent in the general election.
The Democrat leadership failed to back their candidate with both money and party support and this allowed Joe to retain his Senate seat.....
Harry Reid still thinks that Joe is going to some how see the light and support the Democrat agenda.......that's never going to happen.
It's time for Harry to treat Joe the way Joe should be treated......Remove his Democrat cloak, and tell him to go join his buddies who sleep over on the right!
Who knows, maybe those who sleep over on the right won't really want Joe hanging around other than at voting time...
A Benedict Arnold is always a Benedict Arnold!
LarryVegas said.....
"Joe Lieberman threatens to join in opposing Senate health bill that lowers age of Medicare coverage to 55.
Al (sic) last a Democrat you can trust and means what he says..."
That's funny. LarryVegas calling Joe Lieberman a Democrat. The only Democrat part of Joe is the cloak that he wears. Nothing more...
"The Senator from Israel" can not be trusted. Plain and simple. Even the right-wingers know that. Joe is for Joe, not to mention the insurance corporations who preside in his state, and that tiny Jewish country that's located in the Middle East.
I can't stand Lieberman and his motives for blocking the health care bill are undoubtedly more to do with the insurance companies in Connecticut than anything else. But three cheers for the sob!
El Lobo,
Which politician can be trusted? They all need to be dropped in the ocean.
Ah... Wolfy must have a little Joe caught in his throat this morning...
Personally, I would like to see Harry take away Joe's chairmanship and make Joe sit on the other side of the aisle. But that would be disaster for Harry and his friends.
Joe Lieberman puts principles before party politics.
Good man, that Joe...
I always enjoy reading "birdiedreamin." He tells it the way he sees it. That's refreshing.....
Keep up the rant my little "feathered friend." Those that agree with you are gratified, and those that hate what you say are reminded that the truth hurts!
Obama is encouraging Harry to cut a deal with Joe Lieberman, which would mean eliminating the proposed Medicare expansion in the health reform bill. But Harry is so frustrated with Lieberman that he choked on his bagel this morning...
LarryVegas said...
"Joe Lieberman puts principles before party politics.
Good man, that Joe..."
Right! And water now runs up hill and the sun comes up in the West. Joe Lieberman has no principles! Plain and simple! He's all for Joe!
Joe Lieberman is a true Independent. He votes his principles not just how Harry tells him.
You left leaning elitists keep knocking Joe and he might just move closer to the Right...
Joe Lieberman is number 60 and the most important Senator in the Senate. Too bad for the Left that Harry and friends don't own Joe...
It's time Harry takes the gloves off and deals with Joe the way Joe should be dealt with.....throw Joe under the bus! That's where he belongs!
Force Joe to join his "buddies" over on the right if they will have him....
LarryVegas said....
"You left leaning elitists keep knocking Joe and he might just move closer to the Right..."
That's the best news I heard thus far today! I'm not sure the right would welcome Joe with open arms, however.
There is a weariness and a lot of frustration that Joe can hold up the will of 59 other party loyalists who vote party before principles...
".....party before principles...."
Keep believing all that! Are you saying that those who want health care reform which includes the public option and lowering the age of Medicare eligibility to age 55 simply have no principles?
Right! Get off that right-wing Kool-aid before it completely rots your brain....
Wolfy knows that if Harry took away Joe's committee chairmanship, the Democrats would loose their stranglehold on the Senate and Obama's agenda would be in real trouble.
Wolfy keeps confusing health care reform with a government takeover of our health care system. There is a difference there Wolfy.
The great majority of Americans are supporting health care reform but they do not want a government take over.
Now Wolfy, you for one should know that I don't mind a little sip of whiskey, rum, wine or an occasional beer or two. But never KOOL-AID, as it will rot your tubes...
LarryVegas....
What needs to be done, needs to be done....Harry should throw Joe under the bus. Joe has done NOTHING to move the Democrat agenda along. The situation with Joe reminds me of what we often see in professional sports.
A team will have a highly talented athlete on its roster and despite the fact that the athlete continues to screw-up; refuses to be a team player; and is a major pain in the ass; management keeps holding on to the belief that this "prima donna" will sooner or later contribute to the team and the team will win the championship....
It never happens......Joe is not coming around. TRADE HIM! Put him on "WAIVERS."
Harry Reid has called a special Democratic caucus meeting for 5:30 p.m. Monday to see how much money they can come up with to bribe Joe Lieberman to change his mind on lowering the age of Medicare eligibility to age 55.
Joe reminds Harry, that Harry paid Senator Landau 300 million dollars to vote for Harry's pet health care takeover bill...
Wolfy...
Harry can't throw Joe under the bus because Joe is driving the bus at the current time...
I think that the Libs should hold a petition drive and campaign for the Democrats to kick Lieberman out of the Democratic caucus and strip him of his committee chairmanships.
I sign it.
hey joey "i love israel more than i love america" lieberman...
i heard the neocons are pushing for an offensive on iran...
total costs...
about 5,000 dead american soldiers...
about $1 trillion...
what do you think joey...
hmmm...
here's what i think you maggot...
i think you can't fall over yourself fast enough to support it...
i think you care more about israel than you do about america...
i think there is no limit to the amount of american blood and treasure you are willing to flush down the toilet in support of israel...
that's why it's so funny joey...
that all of a sudden you care about money so much...
guess what joey...
you are a fraud...
you are a maggot...
and it is time for you to exit stage right...
LarryVegas said....
"Wolfy keeps confusing health care reform with a government takeover of our health care system."
I'm not confused at all. The right-wingers (that includes you...) don't want REAL/TRUE health care reform. They say they do but that's all "horse-hockey."
They want a bill passed into law that still allows the insurance companies to do what they've been doing for a long, long time.......hold the American public hostage!
The insurance and pharmaceutical conglomerates are making billions (that's correct..) and its all at the expense of the American public. 60% of the bankruptcies in this country are medically driven. With no change, the disaster will continue....
Keep drinking what ever you're drinking and sooner or later you may well be part of that 60% that is forced to mortgage the farm for much needed health care!
Wolfy said... "I'm not confused at all."
That bus you were talking about there Wolfy is just about ready to leave. You better get on board. Joe is driving and Harry is sitting at the back of the bus...
PvtRock said.....
"I think that the Libs should hold a petition drive and campaign for the Democrats to kick Lieberman out of the Democratic caucus and strip him of his committee chairmanships."
Hmmmmmm....that's pretty amazing coming from you....who told you to say that? Who wrote that for you? Of course not being a Democrat, you probably wouldn't be ask to sign the petition...
Hey....LowBo.......go start the petition.
I sign it.
Go for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kick Lieberman out the Democratic caucus and strip him of his chairmanship.
Hurry up!!!!!
That Sgt Rock is one smart guy. He said:
"I think that the Libs should hold a petition drive and campaign for the Democrats to kick Lieberman out of the Democratic caucus and strip him of his committee chairmanships."
Harry can not afford to lose Joe Lieberman. The way Joe goes, the way the Senate will go...
Wolfy is right about one thing...
I repeat...I'm not confused at all. I clearly see what needs to be done.
Sooner or later, Harry will take the gloves off and deal with Joe.....of course, from my perspective, the sooner the better!
Did you read the post by Birdiedreamin concerning Joe?
Read it several times.....the "Bird" hit the nail on the head. Principles are not part of Joe's thing. Joe is all about Joe! Every one knows that.....
As you stated earlier, (thank you...) Joe has reminded Harry "that Harry paid Senator Landau 300 million dollars to vote for Harry's pet health care takeover bill..."
In other words, how much does Joe want?
I can see clearly now...
Wolfy...You have got to be kidding... Reading the "Birds" post several times will make you want to get off that bus you mentioned and throw yourself underneath it.
PvtRock said...
"I sign it."
Is that 3rd grade talk for I'll sign it?
Senator Joe Lieberman wants one and one thing only... True health reform without a government takeover of the entire health care system...
LarryVegas....
You didn't answer my question. How much does Joe want? To say that "Senator Joe Lieberman wants one and one thing only... True health reform" is one of the silliest things I have ever heard you say.
Surely you don't believe that? Wow! If that's true, then go back & read the "Birds post at least 10 times. Then take two aspirin & go straight to bed..No right-wing Kool-aid and no "spirits" of any kind....Understood!
LoBo....the grammar checker.
Can you grammar check this?...being you are one those idiots who gets thrills grammar checking on the web....
"and its all at the expense of the American public"
Go teach that bad Lieberman a lesson.
Go have Reid strip him of his chairmanships.
Brillant plan.....very smart....you are a freaking genius.
Lobo.....is soooooooooooooooooo smart.
Hey Sgt Rock...
Take it easy on Wolfy. With our combined intelligence, he just doesn't stand a chance...
Well, I would like to say and play with you guys, but I have to urge to take my "Fat Boy" out for a little exercise. I might ride it up to the "In n Out" and get me a number 3. You guys want me to pick you up anything???
he doesn't want to jeopardize his wife's $2 million a year health care lobby income just to help 47 million Americans.
Are you talking about Reid?
His family makes millions in fees lobbying in DC each year.
Are Liberals crazy or just out of their minds???
or................
Liberals are in trouble and are beginning to eat their own...
A liberal Web site is trying to enlist celebrities to persuade a top breast cancer research group to dump Joe Lieberman's wife as its "global ambassador," saying Mrs. Lieberman's health care lobbying work and her husband's opposition to the so-called public option make her unfit for the role.
All seriousness aside...
Democrats tried to dump Lieberman during his primary race in Connecticut by supporting the guy who was challenging Joe in the Primary.
Sooo...
Joe Lieberman ran on the Independent ticket and won the General election.
Now the Democrats are crying because Joe is not going to play their games...
Just curious. How many of those here who adore Joe Lieberman for this stand--which contradicts his earlier stand, as in being for something before he was against it, which was so evil when John Kerry said it--voted for the ticket he was on in 2000 when he was Al Gore's vice-presidential candidate? Just curious.
Lieberman; What a card. I think he should play the "Joker" in the next Batman movie. What a smarmy schmo. He should certainly identify with the "New Right" party of I, Me, My.
I just encouraging the libs to stand on principle and demand....DEMAND...that Reid strip Joe of chairmanships.
As for all the blah..blah that you are stating...that generally describes almost every politician in the country.
Just curious...can you name one political that you adore?
I will do a similar blah, blah that they have done and then demostrate that either you, a college professor, are clueless and naive about politicians or you as a college professor lack basic logic skills.
PvtRock.....
I'm truly sorry if I offended you. Shame on me! I should know better than beat upon an unarmed man....I'm sorry, honest I am.....
I'm really not a "grammer checker." I was just trying to figure out what you said. That was the second time that you had said "I sign it." At first, I thought maybe it was something written in military code....
LarryVegas......
I see you're feeling a little better and just maybe your ability to think logically has improved. Actually, the Democrats backed "Joe Joe" during the primary season, but threw their support to the candidate who beat Joe in the primary, once the primary was over...
In other words, they backed the Democrat candidate that the voters of Connecticut had chosen to represent them in the general election....
Hmmmmmm....I guess in your mind, that was a strange thing to do, right? Is that a right-wing thing or is that simply a LarryVegas thing?
Senator Joe Lieberman puts principles above political party affiliations.
Lowbo......I am sorry too. I thought for sure that you were a classic idiot that likes to grammar check especially when his arguments are reveal to be totally stupid. Who cares that you did a grammar check and in your other posts make grammar mistakes yourself. It makes you look like an idiot...but that is your business. It is a free country.
So, you are not a classic idiot that likes to grammar check on web sites.
However your idea to push to strip Lieberman of his chairmanships is so extremely dumb. It is the lib wing the of party shooting themselves in the foot.
That would be perfectly fine with me.
Please DEMAND DEMAND DEMAND to strip Joe of his chairmanships and kick him out of the Democratic caucus.
I truly hope it happens.
PvtRock....
Are you talking in some type of code? I'm asking that question since you continue to say such things as "I just encouraging the libs to stand on principle..."
I'm not making fun of you....I'm just trying to figure out what you're saying.....don't take it personal!
Your question asking me if there's a politican that I adore is strange at best. I can't come up with a single politican that I actually adore.....
I could name a few that I at one time respected (they are now dead...) and could find one or two that I some what respect now, but I see no merit in doing that....
Are you trying to say that ALL politicans are crooks? Probably many are, but not all! Just my opinion!
LarryVegas said.....
"Senator Joe Lieberman puts principles above political party affiliations."
Keep believing that....You believing that harms no one! "Joe Joe" is so deep into political debt to the insurance people in his state that he may never be able to pay them back.
His opposition to the current health care bill is part of that pay back! How hard is that to figure out?
"Joe Joe" owes his reelection to the Senate the last time around to the insurance conglomerate.
Lowbo......I am not taking it personally.
I am not sure why you are saying that.
You seem so excited about something.
I hope I did not hurt your feelings by pointing your obvious needs to be a web site grammar checker or the obvious lack of applying that skill when it comes to your posts.
I did not think you were attacking me personally.
I do believe you trying to avoid discussing the stupid idea of trying to remove the chairmainships from Joe.
As for the adore question that was for prof. Green.
PvtRock.....
I'm glad to hear that you're not taking it personally. That's great!
That means I don't have to "tip-toe" around you for fear that you might go into some mental melt down if I actually did attack you & some of your stupid statements....
Hurt my feelings??? Not in any form, shape or fashion....Never entered my mind!
You apparently believe that "Joe Joe" Lieberman is doing a great job in the Senate! Do I have that correct? That fact should preclude Joe from losing his committee chairmanships despite the fact that Joe isn't really a Democrat. Do I have that correct?
You may also believe that "Independent Joe" is a man of high, unyielding standards and is merely voting his conscience on health care. Do I have that correct?
You may also believe that the continuous money flow from big insurance to Joe's wallet has not influenced "Joe Joe" one bit in how he votes. Do I have that correct?
Hey Larry,
Your brother "Rock" sure does get his dander up,
doesn't he? Was he ill-tempered as a child?
...tip toe through the tulips...
Oh, gmager, did you say something? I was just sitting here singing a tune, and having a little glass of eggnog with a little rum in it. Do you think I mixed too much rum with the eggnog if I can see through it?
Oh... The "Rock" is a very sincere guy who puts his own principles before political beliefs.
On occasion, the "Rock" can get a little annoyed by those who appear to be patronizing.
As a young boy scout, the "Rock" received several "scout badges" for helping blind Liberals cross a busy street on their own.
Later in life, "Rock" enlisted in the military and served gallantly by showing Liberals how to cross minefields while they were blindfolded.
It is a well known fact that "Rock" was one of the first on the scene when the "Bird" had a bad case of constipation. If it wasn't for the "Rock" and that fire hose, the "Bird" might be not be around today to squawk and crow.
Now, where were we? Oh my glass is empty...
Where or where has all my rum gone? Where or where can it be?
My 2 liter bottle of rum is empty and I still have half a carton of eggnog left. Can't drink that crap with out rum. I might as well pour it down the drain...
Hmmmmm....as yet, no reply from PvtRock! No surprise there!
No problem....grammar checker LowBo
I knew that you were raising the white flag when you resorted to grammar checking. When I see that crap done then I know the grammer checker is usually taking a heavy loss in the agrument.
I caught you with your pants down (was not a pretty site) when I revealed on how dumb the idea is that libs wanted to eat their own by giving Joe the boot.
I did not want to embarrass you to that degree.
Opps....sorry....please forgive me. I hope that I do not trigger another desperate grammar checking episode.
Let's do a brain check.
Do you still want to give Joe the boot and kick him out of the Democrat's caucus?
Please say yes....and please work on that wish day and night.
Larry,
May I suggest a 750 mil. bottle of Kalhua Especial. Just add a shot of coffee to a full cup. Yer good to go!
gmager,
Great choice, but I don't like to drink coffee in the evening, it keeps me awake...
But, a little Kalhua mixed with an equal amount of vodka makes me sleep like a baby...
p.s.
After I ran out of rum to put into the eggnog that I was drinking, I changed to wine and now I don't feel too good...
Lieberman-Palin 2012!!!
"Lieberman-Palin 2012!!!"
Would be better then we have now...
Right on LarryVegas, then I can get a 3 stooges shirt with the pics of Bush-Obama-Palin on it.
lieberman-best senator israel has.
Joe is a true Hybrid.
A Republindependemocrat.
I think it is very ironic that at the height of the debate, at this critical juncture, right smack in the midst of the mess is this clown, spinning around like a windmill, trying to gauge how much political favor he can reap, and from where. I-Conn indeed.
gmager is as right as Rush Limbaugh.
Joe Lieberman is an Independent in Democrat's clothing or a Democrat in Independent's clothing.
No matter, because he is the man.
Joe will not be shoved around by Obama or Reid. Joe will make decisions as he sees them, not the way he is told to see them.
Joe should get the Noel Piece Prize for his gallant efforts in getting us the best health reform bill as possible...
I've always liked Joe Liberman. Let's hope he tells the Democrats to go stick it!
"Today, Obama will tell Senate Democrats this is their last chance to pass legislation opposed by 61 percent of the American people."
Larry, put down the egg nog.
THINK.
To whom or what would I-Conn Lieberman owe his allegience to...
http://www.insurancepuppets.com/puppets/...
Here's another hint; It's known as the INSURANCE CAPITAL OF THE WORLD;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford,_C...
Thanks Joe, for not taxing the country an additional 400 billion when we are in the middle of a recession.
Thanks for not adding to a 13 trillion deficit....
Thanks for not allowing Harry Reid to "do what is right for America", when 56% of America Oppose it, and only 40% support it....(no wonder Harry is at 25% favorable rating)
Thanks for not allowing Harry Reid to strip a half a trillion from Medicare when it is already in financial trouble....
BTW - my stats are from http://www.rasmussenreports.com/ The polling group which shared top honors for most accurately prognosticating on a state by state basis the 2008 Presidential election.
Hey AngryOne...
What stats are you inquiring about?
Instead of making a lot of noise, why don't you climb down off that high horse you are on and say what's on your mind. You keep beating around the bushes but never scare anything out...
Joe can't be trusted......he'll jump ship AGAIN if he has too or its getting a bit hot.Who wants him?.........no one !!
Joe Lieberman was elected as an Independent. He does not have to follow Harry down the tube...
PvtRock......I've seen posters spin and stretch the truth before but you win the prize.
I found it very funny when you said:
"I knew that you were raising the white flag when you resorted to grammar checking. When I see that crap done then I know the grammer checker is usually taking a heavy loss in the agrument."
Ha! Ha! I didn't realize that you are now attempting to go into stand-up comedy.... Good luck there my little buddy. Maybe you will have more luck with the spoken word than you have had with the written word....
I think it's time Harry takes the gloves off and deals with "Joe Joe" Lieberman the way he should have been dealt with a long time ago....
"Joe Joe" is not a Democrat in any form, shape, or fashion. He's actually not an Independent as he claims......"Joe Joe" is a Republican who could care less about what is best for the people in his home state of Connecticut, or the people in the United States.
Like 99% of the Republicans who are walking around & using good oxygen, (which is a shame...) "Joe Joe" cares only about himself.....
The Democrats don't need the Senator from Tel Aviv. He adds nothing to the party. The truth be known, the Republicans aren't big on "Joe Joe." It seems they believe that he can be trusted....imagine that!
The latest coming out of Connecticut is that "Joe Joe" is in big trouble. It seems that
"Joe Joe's" popularity has taken a major hit with the current health care debate. Some 70% of the voters in Connecticut are saying that if given another chance to vote, they would not vote for the Senator from Tel Aviv.....
Imagine that....trouble in Paradise! Of course, the major insurance companies in Connecticut continue to give "Joe Joe" big bucks in a successful attempt to buy him off! "Joe Joe" knows which side of his bread is buttered on and who buttered it....
As far as another grammer check on your work, I'll continue to do that....Despite what you believe, additional grammer checks of your work by me will simply raise your level of posting....heaven knows you need that!
Just consider it a form of "tough love." OK?
Larry, you are shuckin' & jivin' again. Bobbin' & Weavin'.
Dancing around the ring doing your rope-a-dope.
Answer my question!
gmag...
Ask me a question in a way that I can understand it and I shall answer it...
@ Larry,
I,for one, would like to suggest that if you desire a less intellectually stimulating conversation then by all means, please go back over to the RJ threads where they truly appreciate the bob n' weave mentality.
Scorpiogal, I didn't know you cared...
If I wanted a intellectually stimulating conversation I wouldn't be here, I would be talking to my wife...
But thanks for asking...