Friday, Dec. 11, 2009 | 2 a.m.
Sun Archives
- Reid’s mastery on display (12-10-2009)
- Compromise means ‘more choices’ for insurance (12-9-2009)
- Report: Democrats reach deal to drop government-run plan (12-8-2009)
- The skinny on the health care reform bills in each chamber of Congress (11-22-2009)
- Senate bill would cover Medicaid expansion for all states (11-19-2009)
- Long-sought , Harry Reid's goal of health care reform a step closer (11-19-2009)
- 2,074-page health bill includes surgery, payroll tax hike (11-18-2009)
- Harry Reid to present $849 billion health care bill (11-18-2009)
Sun Coverage
To understand the next move on health care reform as the Senate cools its heels and awaits a cost assessment on this week’s proposed compromise, a quick history lesson might provide a road map.
When President Lyndon B. Johnson was trying to pass Medicare in 1965, he gave congressional allies a piece of advice once the legislation was approved by a crucial committee.
“For God’s sakes, don’t let dead cats stand on your porch,” Johnson extolled the lawmakers, in an exchange recounted by David Blumenthal and James Morone in “The Heart of Power: Health and Politics in the Oval Office.”
When a bill is ready to go, the president’s message was clear: Call it up quickly for a vote.
If the Congressional Budget Office greenlights the new provisions in coming days and Reid has the votes in hand, expect health care legislation to be fast-tracked toward passage — before the consensus that appears to have been reached slips away.
Indeed, the fragile compromise is showing its vulnerable spots.
The deal achieved by a team of 10 moderate and liberal Democratic senators this week hinges on several elements.
The public option that was a deal-breaker for several key moderate Democrats would essentially be removed, doing away with the long-sought goal of liberals in the caucus.
The public plan would have operated similar to Medicare, and supporters said it would have provided an option for private insurance and increased competition to lower costs. But moderate Democrats worried that government would be financially liable if the plan could not pay for itself, funded only by premiums.
In its place: a menu of private insurance company choices for the uninsured, overseen by the government, as well as the ability for not-quite-senior Americans to buy into Medicare, expanding the popular retiree health care program to those 55 to 64 years old.
Familiar with Medicare
Polls show this would be a popular swap: Americans are supportive of the public option — a slim 52 percent majority in Nevada want it. But they are overwhelmingly supportive of expanding Medicare.
Opening Medicare to younger Americans has been proposed several times over the years, and the Kaiser Family Foundation said Thursday that polls dating back a decade show consistently that seven in 10 Americans support an expansion of Medicare — slightly less when asked about buying in, as would be the case under this proposal.
In explaining the difference between the two, Sen. Richard Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 leader in the Senate, said, “People understand Medicare … For many of us, this seems like a reasonable answer. It’s not a new government program. It’s one people are familiar with.”
Liberals are interested in the swap because many started this debate months, even years, ago, with the goal of universal coverage — Medicare for all.
What they would be getting is the next best thing — Medicare for quite a few more.
In fact, data from the Urban Institute show as many as 4.3 million uninsured Americans are in the 55-64 age group. Allowing them to buy into Medicare would potentially provide just as much coverage as could have been reached through the public option, which the Congressional Budget Office estimated would have been chosen by 3 million to 4 million uninsured Americans under the Senate bill.
And there lies the problem. Doctors and other health care providers consistently balk at proposed Medicare expansions, much as they fought the creation of Medicare during Johnson’s era.
Courting Sen. Snowe
Medicare pays lower rates for doctors’ services than they can get from private insurance companies — a complaint that extends from doctors to rural hospitals, which say they cannot get by on reimbursements that are not 100 percent on the dollar.
For those in Congress trying to curtail rising health care costs, reimbursing at Medicare rates is a good step toward that goal and keeping Medicare solvent. Medicare is facing its own deficit by 2017.
But for those senators whose offices are being bombarded with queries from health care providers who say they cannot afford to do business under the Medicare rates, it may lead to opposition.
Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine, the one Republican who is being heavily courted by Democrats, said she has “serious concerns on the Medicare buy in.”
“I just think that’s the wrong direction to take,” Snowe said, suggesting she could not support the bill with such a provision.
Without Snowe, Democrats are left trying to secure all 60 votes needed to approve the legislation from their own ranks.
Sources said talks are under way on changes to the Medicare payment formula, as leaders are aware of the dissent — a sign of the continued work in progress even as the bill comes closer to resolution.
Support for expanding Medicare drops among seniors, the Kaiser Family Foundation reported, with a slimmer 56 percent majority in favor, according to its September survey. In that poll, 36 percent were opposed.
Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida, a state with a large senior population, said he is keeping an open mind on the proposal.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if the Medicare thing does not become a viable option,” Nelson said. “I think it’s going to be the lesser of the popular things.”
Getting to 60 votes
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada remained confident Thursday his
60-member caucus would back the proposal, even as the public math did not quite add up.
Several key senators — Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Ben Nelson of Nebraska — have yet to give their support. Without either one, Reid would need a Republican to cross over, yet Republicans are maintaining a wall of opposition.
The Republican leader, Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, calls the health care legislation a “monstrosity” of a bill, and Sen. John McCain of Arizona suggested the proposed compromise is Reid’s “Hail Mary” effort to pass the bill by Christmas.
Democratic senators are under enormous pressure to pass President Barack Obama’s signature domestic priority from their chamber by year’s end.
One reason liberal senators may be willing to relent on the long-coveted public option is the dwindling days left to reach a deal.
“Political reality set in,” one Senate aide said. “There’s a sense of what could get to 60.”
Reid’s leadership throughout the often belabored and contorted process of bringing the health care bill to life has dumbfounded some and infuriated others.
Many have wondered if this deal could not have been reached months ago without so much public hand-wringing. But the compromise appeared rooted as much in substance as timing.
When asked if the Medicare alternative could have emerged earlier, Durbin just chuckled, noting that he raised the suggestion with the leadership and key senators four months ago and got no bites.
“It needed to evolve,” Durbin said. “It wasn’t ready.”
The other part of the compromise — the ability for the uninsured to buy private insurance on a new marketplace overseen by the government, much the way the federal employees’ benefit plan is managed — has received modest support, as neither being a tremendous advance nor a step back from what was planned.
Stephen Zuckerman, a health economist at the Urban Institute, sees promise in the overall deal, particularly with the Medicare expansion, if it sticks.
“I think this is really kind of a clever compromise,” he said. “I don’t know if it can hold.”
Lisa Mascaro can be reached at 202-662-7436 or at lisa.mascaro@lasvegassun.com.






This dog won't pass. Lieberman is the key. He's going to force the Dems to get one of the Reb. women from Maine on board, and Snowe or Collins will be a pariah if they voted in favor.
Once it becomes clear that the votes aren't there, you are going to see Dems run for cover, because they don't want to be tagged with a "yes" vote on their record when the 2010 elections are held. Harry Reid will be standing out there, virtually by himself, having wagered his leadership and his political future, all for a long shot bleeding-heart liberal cause. And that will be end of ol' Scary Reid.
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I ask you fellow Nevadians, what do we care about health care that Harry Reid is working so hard on, when we don't even have a job? Harry is only paying attention to that cause, so as to take away the focus on how poorly he has looked after the state of Nevada. He has sold us down the road, and will be ousted from his job as a consequence! Bye Bye Harry !!! Good riddance...
You want Healthcare???? Then include all into the plan (for those uneducated masses, that means all the congress and government employees Obamination included) and also include Tort Reform. Include only US Citizens which has to be proven by each individual along with no Public Option. Now if the Congress votes for it which I doubt that will be a plan.
Keep moving the ball forward Harry. We understand the difficulties that you are under with the sell-out Republicans, health care lobbyists and that traitor Lieberman. Press on and you will have piece of legislation that will save the lives of many Americans.
The headline for this editorial says it all. This is Harry Reid's cause. It makes no difference to Reid what the public wants or what is best for the country. It doesn't even matter to him if it sits well within the scope of the Constitution (Prison terms for Americans who refuse to buy insurance???).
What matters to Harry Reid is only what's important to him or to his party. He is indifferent to to us - the smelly tourists and the racists. Harry Reid should face corruption charges.
Alright mandatory mood and mind controlling vacinations and drugging of all Americans who can think and who don't march to the step of liberalism, (eeerrr) socialism. Cant' wait, git'er done!!
You're right larry5, prison terms for those who refuse Obamacare, heard Mussolini Pelosi say it myself. You know socialists=fascists=liberals can only accomplish their utopian government by an iron fist, that is the way socialism=fascism= liberalism has always worked throughout the history of mankind.
LOL at the comparison between LBJ and Gried!!! It's like comparing Atila the Hun to a bowl of jello.
Gried has so bastardized this whole thing trying to salvage his re-election,it is now the worst atrocity against the American people ever concocted; it must go down in flames. And Gried knows that which is why there is continual rearranging of the deck chairs awaiting CBO estimates.
Just get on with the vote. And get on with the one next November.
Phargo: didn't LBJ also falsify his military record?
This nation cannot afford to have Reid and Pelosi in the positions they currently hold. The RINOs were bad enough.
It's morally wrong to leave 100 million Americans un or underinsured, 1 illness away from financial ruin. And it's wrong to burden small business with the outrageous insurance costs also -- saw a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth
One amendment that would make this a much better healthcare bill is term limits for Senators.
Perhaps the Republican Senators from Arkansas, Louisiana, Nebraska and Connecticut could sponsor the amendment, together.
Didn't Harry say he was a janitor at one time? I guess all that BS he spouts off came from sweeping it.
This bill should not be passed. It's an extremely bad bill. Sometimes doing nothing IS the best option. But it's interesting to note the Las Vegas Sun's obvious bias towards our wonder-boy senator. People I talk to think this is a bad bill and think Harry Reid is a poor leader. National polls reflect that people do not want this bill. So why the hell would our miserable senator push a bill the people do not want? Is Senator Harry Reid working for us OR is he pursuing his own personal agendas? We need a new senator!
Please do not be fooled by Harry's slight of hand. The bill is still in the right hand and the bill is still a bad one. All Harry wants is to get his foot in the door before he barges into your house.
I would not be surprised if this was not the intention of the white house. Get everyone to focus on the single payer than pull it out and people will applaud this pretend centrist position.