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Palin craze puzzling, given ’08 disaster
Tuesday, Dec. 1, 2009 | 2:04 a.m.
After reading other letter writers’ recent defense of Sarah Palin, I wonder: Why? As we have seen, the then-vice presidential nominee of the Republican Party was instrumental in sinking the GOP’s presidential hopes in the 2008 election. Even some of John McCain’s advisers have admitted this.
The woman has a limited, non-stellar education, a la former President George W. Bush and ex-Vice President Dick Cheney. Her inability to deal with simple questions during last year’s interview with Katie Couric and an inability to answer any queries as to her capability to be considered a serious political contender in 2008 disqualify her from any contention in 2012. And don’t forget how talk show host Rush Limbaugh gushes over this woman.
Suffice it to say, Palin is in it for the limelight and, most of all, for the financial gain. As a liberal, I cannot help but wish her well as she attempts to define the conservatives’ hopes to regain the power left in the Bush vacuum.
Meanwhile, President Barack Obama must clean up the mess he inherited from the previous eight years of incompetence. We should all stand behind him.
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NO NO NO NO NO
The LV Sun has put another anti Palin letter in the paper
Is there nothing else more important to the LV Sun the trashing Palin?
The LV Sun is just a sad sad sad representation of a newspaper
For a gal of alleged little consequence, Sarah sure manages to stir up a sh*t storm among Sun readers.
hey richard...
bravo...
oh by the way...
interesting last name...
considering the subject matter of your letter...
hee hee hee...
Palin does not wow me with her deep experience in national and foreign policy,but I like her values and she does energize the party.She speaks out against the liberal views to which I am opposed. While not a presidential candidate in my book, she's a solid spokesperson for conservative values, and she's learning how to deal with the press and public. Something she didn't learn as governor of Alaska.
All republicans are dumb,
All dumbocrats are smart,
just ask them.
Now when is she going to WRITE her first book again? Why so many lies in this one?
You critize Palin and voted for Bumbling Biden, Washington D.C.'s village idiot? Right.
Liberals are afraid of a girl
Hey mschaffer... What lies are you alluring to?
Maybe you should read her book and learn something.
Sarah Palin's book is number one (1) on the New York Times Best Seller list and also number one (1) on Amazon...
The more the left mocks and demonize Palin, the more books are sold...
Larry, I keep saying it again; SARAH PALIN IS HOT, HOT, HOT. Is there a female democrat that is this hot?
"Meanwhile, President Barack Obama must clean up the mess he inherited from the previous eight years of incompetence. We should all stand behind him."
There is constant referral back to the Bush years by the liberals. Our congress has put forth bills for reparations for slavery, and for reparations to the WWII victims in Guam (this one actually passed). Slavery became illegal in 1865, 144 years ago, WWII ended in 1945, 64 years ago.
While President Obama opposes slavery reparations, he signed the bill that included reparations for Guam. So if you want to be accurate you should claim that he is cleaning up the mess he inherited from the previous 64 years, and the following 11 Presidents, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Regan, Bush, Clinton, Bush.
Sarcasm included.
I agree with some of these points. However, let's not rewrite history regarding President Bush' education. He had a Bachelor's degree from Yale and an MBA from Harvard. If that is not good enough to become a politician, what is?
How about Community Organizer???
Palin thinks with her feelings and not with her brain. That makes her a threat to the left.
Obama is digging his own hole by following the policies of Bush.
Obama continues to send his spokespeople out like Robert Gibbs and Carol Browner to state that no reputable scientists disagree with the theory of man made climate change/global warming. Obama et al choose to ignore that 1000's of actual scientists are skeptics and also choose to ignore the fact that E Mails from CRU showed that the scientists were so worried that their computer models could not explain the temperature decline since 1998 and they should hide the decline.
Even now, he'll STILL go to Copenhagen. Guess the new emphasis on science is politicized science. Something tells me the wrong person is on the business end of the mop to clean up the "mess" made for last 8 years.
Like Southerners say... "Cute as a Sow's ear."
I think the commander can be referred to as the other end of the hog...
I keep telling you guys to listen to the Burrito Bandit. HE KNOWS!!!
"As we have seen, the then-vice presidential nominee of the Republican Party was instrumental in sinking the GOP's presidential hopes in the 2008 election."
Seriously? By my reckoning, the GOP's choice of the "Liberals' Favorite Republican" as Presidential candidate had exactly ZERO chance of beating Obama. McCain and his advisors knew this whether they publicly admit it or not. Adding Palin to the ticket brought the only life that had been seen on a McCain campaign since the Straight Talk Express of 2000. Do you not remember what the campaign was like? Obama was getting magazine covers left and right, while McCain was struggling to just be noticed. It was a tactical choice. It was a publicity stunt. It didn't work.
I agree; Palin makes for a pretty poor presidential candidate. But the truth of the matter is that she brought a sorely needed spark to the McCain campaign and even now continues to fill a leadership vacuum on the conservative side. Indeed, she may one day grow into a viable candidate, but I believe right now she has her sights set on becoming the Oprah of FoxNews.
Palin is an "open book" while Obama remains the Manchurian Candidate. Why are the Palin haters so afraid of knowing who and what Obama really is?
Leftists are afraid of a little five foot girl! Ha!
"Like Southerners say... "Cute as a Sow's ear."
I think the commander can be referred to as the other end of the hog..."
More deranged Obama hatred. How disgusting.
Hey libs(and RINOS),
You told us that Sarah Palin was finished after she resigned Alaska governorship.
Is she politicaly dead? Or is she political genius,as Willy Brown observed at the time,saying that he never seen better political instinct.
SARAH PALIN TSUNAMI is under way,full blast.
By 2012 I will feel sory for Obama(nice,decent man,but should never be President).
Obama fighting relentless and ferocioues SARAH BARRACUDA will be painful to watch.
Libs,I know SARAH puts terror in your hateful hearts.
Deal with it!
Some of you are not only vicious and hateful,
many of you are sick,right at the edge of a cliff
You need help Richard Trigg,you're ready for to jump!
Liberal don't have a sense of humor... They just like to bash and name call.
The GhostCommander made the following statement:
"The Southerners know that one cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Sarah Palin is a Sow's ear!"
Larry responded:
"Like Southerners say... "Cute as a Sow's ear.
I think the commander can be referred to as the other end of the hog..."
Somehow edgewise then turns my comment into Obama hatred...
This just proves that you can't debate or argue with left wing Liberals. The Liberals mission is to distract from the truth.
So Stan, are you listening? You can't have an even keeled conversation with these guys.
Left wing Liberals are like rabid lemmings. They hear something that they know is not factual, but they continue to pass it on as if it was fact.
America can see through these Liberal rants, and are purchasing Sarah Palin's book to learn the truth and how mean the political process can be in the U.S.
Distract and divide is the Liberals rant...
"Ah, that Huckabee. Now there's a good man... "
So says LarryVegas... supporting the ex-governor who pardoned a cop murderer. Way to go Larry!
I think that edgewise has slipped off the edge...
Where did I mention anything about Huckabee???
I do think that Huckabee is an honorable person who made a decision and is accepting the results of that decision.
This is another example why you can not have a serious discussion with leftest Liberals...
Oh, I forgot to mention. Just another example of the left wing Liberals slandering another person of decent character.
Those cops would be alive today if not for Huckabee's disastrous decision.
Guess your love for Huckabee knows no bounds, Larry.
BurritoBandit-Most Democrats think Hillary Clinton is HOT, HOT, HOT!
"Those cops would be alive today if not for Huckabee's disastrous decision. Guess your love for Huckabee knows no bounds, Larry."
We should all be blessed with insightfulness such as Edgewise's.
Obama got into Yale and Harvard, and graduated only because he is black. They had to meet their quota. If he were white he would have had trouble getting into a community college.
I guess edgewise's love for his fellow man has political bounds. If someone does not have his political views then he can go to "Hell" regardless of anything else.
Hey Stan... Are you reading this dribble? And you wonder why I don't bring myself down to their level...
edge: we pardon your stupidity. Now, you may go.
Hey Stan... Would you like to engage the "commander" in a discussion???
What? Why are the Republicans getting touchy about Huckabee?
First he lets convicted rapist Wayne DuMond out of jail... who then goes on to rape and kill again.
Now he commutes Maurice Clemmons who goes on to (allegedly, of course) murder four cops.
Is this post-Bush compassionate conservatism? Have compassion on rapists and murderers?
Michael... Shirley you jest. I PRAY she runs for President on the Republican ticket. That would be sincerely AWESOME!
Larry & Burrito boy; The Smitten Twins... She's ok for a Grandma, I'll give you that.
TexMilan, I URGE YOU to become part of that tsunami! Get involved! Start a Sarah Fan Club!
Raise money for 2012! We Dems will help in any way we can, so please, let us know how to help you help Sarah become the nominee! Godspeed! I would personally pay a large sum of money to watch Sarah debate. You Betcha! I'm startin' to feel a little Mavericky here!
I'm with gmag, I'd love to see Sarah run in 2012.
I've been to a few foreign countries and sometimes watch the Travel channel. Does that qualify me to be her Secretary of State, or would I have to pledge allegiance to the Christian Taliban before I could join her gang?
gregory: I am not a member of the Palin for Master of the Universe crowd. As I've said before in rare moments of sobriety and sanity, my candidate for 2012 is General David Petraeus.
Loving the Huckabee hypocrisy, too, edgewise. Coming from the party of the Willie Horton ad, they should know better.
Huckabee/Palin, 2012!
The Huckabee hypocrisy was started by edgewise and is being fed on by the brothers of love on the far left.
If it's Huckabee/Palin in 2012, they will have a good chance of winning...
OK Stan... Do you see how edgewise started this Huckabee crap and others from his hyena den are trying to spread the flames of hate? It is a complete waste of time discussing anything with these elitist Liberals...
And then we have Larry, who screeches about name calling all the time, but loves name calling himself: "elitist liberals!" Pot, meet kettle.
Another Huckabee Hypocrite.
Larry; What do mean "... down to their level"?
As low as their level is, yours is so much lower you have to reach up to touch bottom.
bidie: great catch on the writer's last name! You get two crackers for that one.
Oh Stan... You disappoint me. I will place your name in with the other left wing Liberal brothers of hate.
Thank you...
Oooooo ksand99, is that the best you can do?
The elitist liberals scare me but actually they are no more then a distraction...
Meanwhile:
Sarah Palin sales more books.
Huckabee has his own television program.
Obama's health care takeover is in trouble.
Obama's Afghanistan was is on track.
Cap and tax is stalled.
Global warming is a scam
Unemployment is rising.
People are still loosing their homes.
The financial system is a mess.
And the 2010 elections are just around the corner...
Shhhh. Here's a secret. It's Democrats who are buying Palin's book, contributing to her campaign and working hard to keep her in the limelight.
We've added Huckabee to our support list. He was definitely off before because we realized that despite his professed belief in Creationism (we knew he was merely pandering to the Wingnuts), he was feared as a viable opponent. As of yesterday, we have begun supporting him.
Palin/Huckabee in 2012 is our dream ticket.
The best of all worlds would be if the GOP movers and shakers, realizing what a catastrostroke (sic) that would be, decided to go with Romney/Paul, thereby infuriating Sarah so much that she enters as an Independent. "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."
Correction...
Obama's Afghanistan "WAR" is on track...
This in itself drives these pink blouse wearing left wing Liberals completely berserk. Read some of the other discussion posts. These Pink Liberals are eating their own. Just like a pack of hyenas.
Damn!! I just got a phone call reprimanding me for divulging our strategy. I'm in trouble now.
Yup, more hatred from LarryVegas. He can't stop calling people names. He loves spreading his message of hatred across the internet.
Or... Hell has no fury like an elitist Liberal...
Stan... "Palin/Huckabee in 2012 is our dream ticket." Works for me even if it was reversed with Huckabee at the head of the ticket.
But, lets not get too far ahead of ourselves. The next election in 2010 will tell the future for 2012.
"Or... Hell has no fury like an elitist Liberal..."
Why do you hate Democrats, Larry?
I can keep this up just as long or longer then you can there ksand99.
I guess ksand99 thinks that calling someone a "Liberal" is calling someone a name. Well could be... Once being called a Liberal was a compliment. Now the word "Liberal" has negative connotations.
"these pink blouse wearing left wing Liberals"
Huh? My shirt is green and blue.
More hatred from Larry. You need to calm down, Larry. Your hypocrisy is showing.
I don't hate Democrats, I used to be one, just like I use to be a Republican. It's the left wing Liberals who distort the truth and are nothing more then a distraction that I have lost compassion for.
I used to have compassion for the left as well as the right, but some of the Liberals who post here has hardened my opinion against them because of their lack of civility.
OK.. ksand99 states the he does not wear a pink blouse. So who cares what color of blouse ksand99 wears.
I hope Stan is keeping track of my posts here today. Sharpen your pencil... It's going to be a long day...
Lack of civility? You constantly attack other people by name calling, LarryVegas.
If someone criticizes Sarah Palin's lies about earmarks, you attack them, rather than argue the facts.
You need a mirror.
Ksand99 rhetoric is only a diversion in the course of life. Who cares...
President Obama will announce Tuesday night that he is sending 30,000 more U.S. troops to Afghanistan to be deployed over the next six months, and set a goal of turning over security to Afghan forces beginning in July 2011.
Now that's something to rejoice in...
Meanwhile Sarah Palins book is still number one (1) on the New York Times Best Seller list and also number (1) on Amazon.
Keep up with the trashing of Palin. It sells more books...
"Ksand99 rhetoric is only a diversion in the course of life. Who cares..."
Again, your lack of self-awareness is frightening and hilarious. The shortcomings you see in others are manifestations of your own issues, Larry.
Textbook narcissism.
"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
While Sarah Palin is certainly making waves with her own best-selling book "Going Rogue," the former governor and vice presidential candidate is also in the spotlight with a cameo appearance as a heroine in the recently released children's book:
"Help! Mom! Radicals Are Ruining My Country!"
Didn't Adolph Hitler have a best-selling book, too?
Not saying she's Hitler, but relying on that book written by a ghostwriter to prove her credentials is weak, at best.
Thanks to the Liberals for all their hard work.
The second-week sales figures are in, and Sarah Palin's book, Going Rogue, has now sold over a million copies.
"The second-week sales figures are in, and Sarah Palin's book, Going Rogue, has now sold over a million copies."
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say "Going Rogue, which features a picture of Sarah Palin, but wasn't actually written by her?" I think so.
What a quote...
"It's a measure of the extraordinary promotional clout of the right wing media machine, the astonishing star power Palin enjoys within the GOP, and the skill (or luck) with which she's made the transition from losing candidate and quitting-governor-of-a-small-state to political-media celebrity."
Al Gore lied in his movie, libs gave him an award.
Maybe he should apologize and turn himself in to the nearest authority.
"It's a measure of the extraordinary promotional clout of the right wing media machine, the astonishing star power Palin enjoys within the GOP, and the skill (or luck) with which she's made the transition from losing candidate and quitting-governor-of-a-small-state to political-media celebrity."
Well now, isn't that boldly admitting her bark has no substance!
It does seem that Larry is confusing popularity with legitimacy.
Hey Liberals... To go along with Sarah Palin' new book, the new 2010 Sarah Palin calendar is now on sale at Amazon.
The calendar makes the perfect gift for the Sarah Palin hater in your life. Features 12 high-resolution photos of our favorite conservative woman that is sure to drive the Liberals completely nuts...
That's a perfect gift for Palin's supporters, who often are hopelessly misinformed as to her positions on the issues, Larry.
With that being said, I'm sure you picked one up for yourself.
Not that it matters to our Liberal friends because obviously they think that Sarah Palin is a female Republican dunce and Obama is obviously a male Democratic genius. But, Sarah Palin's poll numbers are strengthening while President Obama's are sliding.
Guess what? They're about to meet in the 40s.
Man, how are the left wing Liberals going to react when Sarah Palin's favorable ratings exceed those of Barak Obama...
"Guess what? They're about to meet in the 40s. Man, how are the left wing Liberals going to react when Sarah Palin's favorable ratings exceed those of Barak Obama..."
This isn't even close to being true.
Larry's confusing favorability with job approval. They're polled separately, and when you compare apples to apples, the gap is huge.
Here are the most recent favorable-unfavorable ratios for Obama and Palin:
CNN Obama 60-39
CNN Palin 42-51
ABC News/Wash Post Obama 61-38
ABC News/Wash Post Palin 43-52
Gallup Obama 56-40
Gallup Palin 40-50
Of course, there can't be a poll for Palin's job approval, since she quit as Governor.
Larry, were you just lazy, or lying?
Larry's lowly lies? Ludicrous!
A new Iowa poll shows that Republicans in the state highly approve of Sarah Palin. As many as 68 percent of Iowa Republicans view Palin favorably, according to the Des Moines Register's Iowa poll beating both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney.
Oh Larry, this is pathetic.
That Iowa poll? You need to read a little more.
"The first public poll to test Palin's favorabilty in the leadoff nominating state found 55 percent of all Iowans hold an unfavorable opinion of Palin a little more than a year after the last election. Only 37 percent feel favorably about her.
"And those feelings are intense: The percentage of Iowans who view Palin very unfavorably is more than twice as large as the percentage who view her very favorably."
True, when you only look at Republicans, they like her. But when you look at Iowans in general, they can't stand her, by a huge margin.
Sorry, Larry.
The Iowa republicans don't know what we do:
They'll vote for her in the primary and she'll get creamed in the general!
Go Iowa!
Los Angeles Times dated November 23, 2009
Sarah Palin vs. Barack Obama: The approval gap silently shrinks to a few points...
"Depending, of course, on which recent set of numbers you peruse and how the questions are phrased on approval or favorable, 307 days into his allotted 1,461 the 44th president's approval rating among Americans has slid to 49% or 48%, showing no popularity bounce from his many happy trips, foreign and domestic.
Virginia line for Sarah Palin Going Rogue Book buyers
Riding the wave of immense publicity and symbiotic media interest over her new book, "Going Rogue," and the accompanying promotional tour, Palin's favorable ratings are now at 43%, according to ABC. That's up from 40% in July.
One poll even gives her a 47% favorable."
When you compare apples to apples, Obama has a clear lead, Larry. And every favorable-unfavorable matchup with Palin's own numbers has the "unfavorables" dominating the "favorables." She's a failure in that respect.
Here are the most recent favorable-unfavorable ratios for Obama and Palin:
CNN Obama 60-39
CNN Palin 42-51
ABC News/Wash Post Obama 61-38
ABC News/Wash Post Palin 43-52
Gallup Obama 56-40
Gallup Palin 40-50
Of course, there can't be a poll for Palin's job approval, since she quit as Governor.
I wonder what the Nobel Peace Prize folks think about Obama's war?
ksand99 thinks he knows more than the Iowa Republicans... Do you really think that Iowa Republican care what ksand99 knows or does not know...
55% of Iowans have an unfavorable view of Palin, and only 37% have a favorable, by your own poll, Larry.
Iowa Republicans would be making a huge mistake to vote for her with those numbers. It's clear the independents despise her.
So typical of Larry. Announce how great Palin's numbers are when they're actually terrible.
When his lies are exposed, suddenly he waves the white flag of surrender.
Stop lying, Larry.
Tuesday, December 01, 2009
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 27% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -13
ksand99 states that Sarah Palin's poll numbers are terrible...
Maybe that's why Palin has sold over one (1) million copies of her new book.
Good try there ksand99 but not good enough...
This is just desperate, Larry.
From that same poll, total approval is 47%, and total disapproval is 52%, which is hardly a margin of 13 points.
Furthermore, the Presidential Approval Index has improved since last week, so he's on an upward trend.
You aren't doing yourself any favors by continuing to post this nonsense. Face it, your credibility is shot.
And, again, you can't compare Obama's job approval to Palin's job approval, since she's unemployed.
Palin's poll numbers are terrible. That is a fact.
Obama's poll numbers are better. That is a fact.
Larry has been lying. That is a fact.
Here's ksand99 comparing a sitting President to a ex-governor. A little unbalance there...
You Liberals are something else, demeaning Sarah Palin as a nobody but comparing her to the President.
edwise does have a point that you can't compare Obama's job approval to Palin's job approval, since she's unemployed.
So an unemployed Governor has ratings close to the President.
No wonder the Liberals are worried.
"Here's ksand99 comparing a sitting President to a ex-governor. A little unbalance there..."
YOU MADE THAT COMPARISON FIRST, LARRY.
What a hypocrite.
And to ksand99 who has call me a liar many times today and that is a fact.
Liar, liar, pants on fire...
You are a riot there ksand99. Stating that Palin's poll numbers are terrible but Obama's poll numbers are getting better.
Getting better??? Is that all???
I made that comparison and you two Liberals fell on it like a couple of biting hyenas. Ha ha...
Comparing the ratings of a sitting president to an ex-governor. How ridicules...
"I made that comparison and you two Liberals fell on it like a couple of biting hyenas. Ha ha..."
I agree, that's an insanely stupid comparison to make. So nice of you to admit it.
So as the Sun is setting and the day draws to an end, we ask the question: What have we accomplished today?
Did edgewise or ksand99 change Larry's mind? Don't think so.
Did Larry change either of edgewise or ksand99 minds? Don't think so, but they appear to be wavering.
Good day Gentlemen...
Larry's spin is exactly what makes people hate politics in the first place.
When put in context, every fact he provided actually undermines his argument. Sarah Palin has sold a million books. Hooray. Unfortunately, if any election was held today, the odds are overwhelming that she would lose, and lose by a huge margin.
But Larry insists on comparing apples to apricots in a desperate bid to lie about her popularity. That kind of disingenuous partisan spin just makes everyone with a clue laugh at LarryVegas.
I mean, how desperate is it to cite a poll of only republicans? Does LarryVegas really believe that only republican determine ANYTHING? That's clueless!
When you take out all of Larry's lies and his unfortunate name calling, you're not left with anything. Just hot air.
Larry, if today is any indication of the best you've got, I'm not worried or wavering.
The only wavering was your sudden admission that your own poll numbers were meaningless. Much like your rhetoric, I believe.
Thank you guys, you both are too kind...
You guys should have listen to my wife when she says that I am not worth having a discussion with.
Thanks anyway...
Maybe if you were willing to discuss, rather than spin, things would be different.
Out-of-context poll numbers and incongruent comparisons don't count, of course.
Voters remain more confident in Republicans than in Democrats this month on virtually all of the key electoral issues regularly tracked by Rasmussen Reports.
Republicans have moved ahead of Democrats, 48% to 44%, in Gallup's latest update on registered-voter preferences for the 2010 midterm congressional elections. Over the course of the year, independents have grown increasingly likely to vote Republican on this measure.
The Sarah Palin Poll
From John Siceloff, Executive Producer, NOW on PBS
The unscientific poll asks the question, "Do you think that Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?"
As of October 15th, the Palin poll had received over 52 million votes. The "Yes" answer had 49%, the "No" answer had 49%.
One interesting thing about this poll is that approximate 26 million people supported Sarah Palin.
If Palin can sell books to 10% of those who took the time to vote for her, she would have sold approximately three (3) million books. Not too bad for an ex governor...
Palin can thank the Democrats for her popularity - if any of them actually got a job they would not be blessed with the free time to focus on her with such vigor. And yes, Palin thanks you for holding true to your "values"...unemployed and having no financial voice.
Larry, Larry, Larry.
What's next, a blind taste test?
Face it: People don't like Sarah Palin. Her negative poll numbers are far greater than her positive poll numbers.
You can cite any wacky UNSCIENTIFIC internet poll that you like, that doesn't change reality.
You're clawing at the bottom of the barrel for anything. It's really, really desperate! LOL!
http://www.pbs.org/now/palin-poll.html
"One interesting thing about this poll is that approximate 26 million people supported Sarah Palin."
This is another lie. There were 26 million votes cast for Palin, but according to PBS's own webmaster, anyone could have voted an unlimited amount of times. You could have one lonely, bored little guy in his undies named "Larry," for example, clicking over and over for Sarah Palin.
"If Palin can sell books to 10% of those who took the time to vote for her, she would have sold approximately three (3) million books. Not too bad for an ex governor..."
Another lie.
If you're really gullible enough to believe that 52 million individual people went to the PBS website to vote in an online poll...
Well, actually I do think you may be that gullible. You've proven yourself to be.
Here is a far right wing news operation that says, "Palin's popularity numbers have edged up in national polls in recent months, to the point where they nearly equal to President Obama's, Andrew Malcolm of the Los Angeles Times reports."
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/23/...
Here is the far right wing artilce (LA Times) that CBS is quoting.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washingt...
I dunno know......this one is hard....should I believe the LA Times or should I believe Ksand99.
Wow, jfNance32, err, SgtRock, err James F Nance Jr, welcome to 2:30 this afternoon, where your talking point was debunked.
Try to keep up.
To quote edgewise:
Larry's confusing favorability with job approval. They're polled separately, and when you compare apples to apples, the gap is huge.
Here are the most recent favorable-unfavorable ratios for Obama and Palin:
CNN Obama 60-39
CNN Palin 42-51
ABC News/Wash Post Obama 61-38
ABC News/Wash Post Palin 43-52
Gallup Obama 56-40
Gallup Palin 40-50
Of course, there can't be a poll for Palin's job approval, since she quit as Governor.
Furthermore, your own link states:
"A comparison with Huckabee's numbers also reveal Palin's weaknesses. Twice as many Iowa Republicans hold an unfavorable view of Palin as they do of Huckabee. Meanwhile, moderates view Huckabee more than twice as favorably as Palin."
That was also discussed at 2:30 on this page.
Again, to quote edgewise:
"That Iowa poll? You need to read a little more.
"The first public poll to test Palin's favorabilty in the leadoff nominating state found 55 percent of all Iowans hold an unfavorable opinion of Palin a little more than a year after the last election. Only 37 percent feel favorably about her.
"And those feelings are intense: The percentage of Iowans who view Palin very unfavorably is more than twice as large as the percentage who view her very favorably."
"True, when you only look at Republicans, they like her. But when you look at Iowans in general, they can't stand her, by a huge margin."
Now, swallow your pride and try to understand that comparing favorables to job approval is comparing apples to apricots.
Really, you need to learn how to read.
Also, your second link states:
"Depending, of course, on which recent set of numbers you peruse and how the questions are phrased on approval or favorable,"
Apples to apricots, jfNance32, err, SgtRock, err, James F Nance Jr.
You'd have to be dumb as a Rock to believe your rhetoric, SgtNance.
Oh, and Media Matters also debunked your blog source.
"Even in the Fox poll, there is still a 7-point difference in favorability. Referring to that poll, Malcolm writes that "[o]ne poll even gives her a 47% favorable," yet he neglects to mention the 7-point difference or that Obama is at 54% favorable, which is above the "49% or 48%" he suggests Obama has."
"I didn't list the CBS News/New York Times poll because its most recent question on Obama's favorability was in July, but a November 13-15 CBS News survey found that 23% -- less than 1 in 4 - had a favorable view of Palin. Obama's approval rating was 53% in that November poll - again, a far cry from Malcolm's claim of a "few points" difference."
"Moreover, Palin's 23 percent rating in November is the same as it was in July when she resigned as governor. Even Malcolm notes that Palin is now "[r]iding the wave of immense publicity and symbiotic media interest over her new book, 'Going Rogue,' and the accompanying promotional tour.' " (And that coverage has certainly been nothing but positive and exhausting.) ABC News/Wash Post has her up three points since July - which Malcolm cites - but she's down three points in the Gallup poll since July. "
"Even as she rides the crest of that wave of "immense publicity and symbiotic media interest," Palin remains just about as unpopular as when she left office in July. And she is certainly nowhere near as popular as Obama."
PALIN / HUCKA.......
Woops! Never mind.
ksand99 rants "Face it: People don't like Sarah Palin."
That's why Sarah Palin's book has now sold over one million copies.
Is there a poll on how many books Palin will sell to all those people who don't like her.
So the moral of this story is that:
The President polls continue to drop while Sarah Palin gains in popularity...
One million book buyers can't be wrong.
CNN Unfavorable: 51
ABC News/Wash Post Unfavorable: 52
Gallup Unfavorable: 50
A majority in all polls: unfavorable.
Face it: people don't like Sarah Palin.
If you think 1 million books is alot, just remember: only 1 in every 300 Americans shelled out their hard earned cash for Sarah Palin's book.
That puts alot of perspective on how many people really like her. If you judge it by how many buy her book?
1 in every 300.
Hey ksand99... That's one million books in two weeks...
Boy, these left wing Liberals just can't take the truth.
Next, they will be calling me more names. ksand99 gets his rocks off calling me names. But I don't care because it just shows how just berserk these guys get when you mention Sarah Palin's name...
Hey ksand99... Are those Palin or Obama unfavorable figures you are quoting?
Look's like it could go either way...
Have you noticed that mentioning Sarah Palin's name to one of these Liberals is like holding up a cross in front of a vampire...
Berserk? Where do you come up with this stuff? And for someone who wails about name calling, you sure can be a wild hypocrite!
Again, your lies and rhetoric don't match up with reality.
LarryVegas thinks everyone just love love loves Sarah Palin like he does. He must not get out much. He's even shown us polls that say only 30-something percent of Iowa voters would even consider voting for her.
"It's a landslide!" screams Larry.
A CBS poll found that 23% -- less than 1 in 4 - had a favorable view of Palin.
"Everyone loves her!" screams Larry.
Face it, Larry, poll after SCIENTIFIC poll (scientific polls, that is, not your debunked internet poll where they ask weirdos in their basement to vote 26 million times) show that the public at large doesn't really like Sarah Palin.
But LarryVegas and SgtRock/jfNance32 just can't handle the truth. They need to find some new friends!
Larry, is your last name Sinclair? LOL!
Where's ksand99?
Here boy... Here boy... Come here boy...
Come outside and play... I have a nice big bone for you... Here boy...
Yup, those were Palin's unfavorables.
The majority in all three polls see her as unfavorable.
Since you seem to be confused: that means they DON'T like her.
Just so we're clear.
Meanwhile, the clear majority have favorable views of Obama.
I think I hear choking from the Palin Fan Club!
Ah... Here's ksand99... berserk, I say berserk...
ksand99 doubles as a mouth piece for me. Notice how he is making all of his quoted statements and sticking my name on them.
ksand99 just can't figure out how anyone in their right mind could buy Sarah Palin's book...
On million books sold in two weeks.... Not too bad for someone that nobody likes according to ksand99.
Did you say that no one in their right mind would buy Sarah Palin's book?
Larry Sinclair, that's the most reasonable thing you've said yet.
I guess you've seen the poll numbers, then. They're sinking in. The majority of Americans don't like Sarah Palin.
She has a rabid fan club, though! 1 in 300! Unfortunately, I think some communicable diseases are more popular.
I think H1N1 has a higher favorability than Sarah Palin at this point.
52% unfavorables? Yikes!
The only choking I hear is coming from ksand99 when he tries to say "One million books in two weeks."
I tell you, it's pretty bad when they start comparing a sitting president poll ratings with a prior candidate for vice president. AND THEY ARE SO CLOSE!!!
Here is an actual video of people who bought Sarah Palin's book.
They are booing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8mAZhOJI...
Larry, are you sure the people who bought her book haven't returned them?
They don't even seem to like her, with all the booing!
ksand99 says that the majority of Americans don't like Sarah Palin. Do you think he phoned everyone and asked them if they liked Sarah Palin?
Hey ksand99, since you are so much smarter then the average person, how much do you think Palin has made out of selling over two million books?
Here's another video of people who are buying Sarah Palin's book.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKKKgua7w...
Larry, are you a Steelers fan?
CNN Unfavorable: 51
ABC News/Wash Post Unfavorable: 52
Gallup Unfavorable: 50
A majority in all polls: unfavorable.
Face it: people don't like Sarah Palin.
Here's some more of Sarah Palin's "fans."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TgDanmW...
More booing.
Well, I guess we are now at the booing stage...
Boy, if ksand99 feels this bad learning that Sarah Palin has sold two million books, what in the cat hair will he be like when she reaches three million books sold?
These Sarah Palin fans don't even know her policy positions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXKuDYvM6...
Are you sure these people knew they were buying a book? Maybe they thought "Sarah Palin" was a character in Twilight?
Five thousand comedians out of work in Las Vegas and ksand99 wants to be a comedian...
And there he goes again.. Posting Obama's unfavorable poll ratings again...
I guess he is trying to impress me with his skill with numbers. Hey ksand99. Can you count to two million?
But as political phenomenons go, Sarah Palin is a remarkably unpopular one. Not that you'd know it from much of the week's media coverage, but the American public as a whole really doesn't care for her:
* A CBS poll conducted this month found that only 23 percent have a favorable opinion of Palin; 38 percent have an unfavorable view. Only one in four Americans wants her to run for president; two out of three don't. One in four thinks she has the ability to be an effective president; more than 60 percent disagree. Only 43 percent of Republicans think she could be effective.
* An ABC poll, also conducted this month, found similar results: 43 percent have a favorable impression of Palin, 52 percent unfavorable. A whopping 53 percent of Americans would not even consider voting for her for president, and 60 percent don't think she's qualified for the job.
* A CNN poll conducted last month found that even more Americans -- 71 percent -- think Palin is not qualified to be president.
There is, in short, something very close to a national consensus that Sarah Palin should not be president and would not be effective in the job.
That's the "political phenomenon" that is Sarah Palin: She has pulled off the difficult task of uniting 60 to 70 percent of Americans behind a single political position. That position happens to be that Palin shouldn't be anywhere near the Oval Office, but it's still an impressively large coalition.
You know who has actually sold more than a million books?
Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Shhhh... don't tell Larry!
If she is unfavorable and you believe it, why are you trying to convince me? I can read polls too. I think you guys are just Mononoid. You're afraid of someone but you just don't know who it is.
I wonder if Mike Huckabee's ever sold millions of books?
Maybe LarryVegas can tell us about how much he loves Huckabee and how proud he is of Huckabee's history of pardoning rapists.
Man, between Huckabee and Palin, the GOP is in some dire straits!
I didn't know that a private person could have policy positions.
But what do I know? I am only a poor Independent trying to make sense of things.
Maybe I should try some of those positions out.
How many positions can you do there ksand99?
Of course I believe those numbers, I speak to other people.
They really, really don't like her.
And poll after poll prove that I'm right.
Whereas poll after poll proves Larry wrong, which is why he's desperately trying to spin Palin's book numbers.
Memo to LarryVegas: book figures aren't votes, dude!
And what happened when people were given the opportunity to vote for Palin? She lost.
She lost so much, she went back to Alaska and quit her job and hired some poor gal to write a book for her, so that the handful of people who still respected her would give her money.
She's a sell out.
Oh, I should say:
So Palin could cheat 1 in 300 Americans out of their hard earned cash. Poor people forked over their cash for firewood.
They thought they were getting a story about Palin's life, instead they got her cruel lies about the people who helped her out on the campaign.
Palin ruthlessly attacked them without giving them an opportunity to defend themselves.
Now ksand99 says that he is "right." Here all this time I thought ksand99 was hanging way out left with Michael Moore and friends.
I think ksand99 is beginning to like me. He just called me "dude." How sweet.
Here ksand99. Come back to topic... You mind is way off in Alaska now.
Actually, I'm on topic. I'm writing about Sarah Palin, who is the subject of this letter to the editor.
You're talking about me and asking about my bedroom, which is nice and all but I don't swing that way, Larry. Thanks for the flattery, though.
Now, back to Palin:
There is, in short, something very close to a national consensus that Sarah Palin should not be president and would not be effective in the job.
That's the "political phenomenon" that is Sarah Palin: She has pulled off the difficult task of uniting 60 to 70 percent of Americans behind a single political position. That position happens to be that Palin shouldn't be anywhere near the Oval Office, but it's still an impressively large coalition.
Ah, ksand99 is resorting to personal attacks on Palin again. Cheat, cruel lies, ruthlessly attacked them... Wow, we are really getting nasty now.
For the inhumanity of it all. Where will it stop?
"She's unqualified to be president. That's a normative statement, but it's also one that most Americans happen to agree with. Now, it may be no surprise that 90 percent of Democrats feel that way. But a CNN poll out this week shows that, amazingly, about four in nine Republicans concur and, most damning, about seven of 10 Independents do, too. Sarah's got legitimacy issues."
ksand99 is one smart guy for a Liberal. He knows things that nobody else knows. Like Sarah Palin running for some unknown office somewhere.
I did not know that. I thought she had just written a book and now is out making public appearances to sell more books.
"Nobody's ambivalent about her. People know who Palin is, and almost all have developed opinions about her. If those opinions were overwhelmingly positive, that would be one thing. But they aren't. (See #1, above.) And once a politician loses core support, they have to do something extraordinary to reverse the public's view of them. (An exception who defied this rule with exceptional behavior is Al Gore, who tripled his public approval numbers between 2002 and 2007.) In short, there's just too much Palin needs to do to reverse the opinions of voters, including Republican voters."
Oh I get it. Sarah Palin is running for President. I did not know that. Again, I thought she was doing book selling tours. See ksand99, you are so smart, you know everything that needs to be known about everything.
So, if she's not a politician... since she quit her job as Governor of Alaska.
And if she's not an author... since she didn't actually write the book with her name on it...
What does that make her?
Did you read the story about her not always taking the bus and flying in a private jet, instead?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/120...
I don't think that will help her horrible unfavorable ratings!
"GOP primary voters are interested in electability, not message-sending. Nate is right that for Republicans in 2012, against incumbent Barack Obama, it might be tempting to send a 1964-like message. But if that were the case, given the bottom the party reached in 2008, they should have nominated somebody like Huckabee instead of John McCain. They didn't. Bob Dole in 1996 and McCain last year weren't great candidates, but they were the best option available, which is exactly the candidate sober Republican primary voters choose every four years. It's not clear to me who the best general election candidate in the field of potential 2012 contenders is--my hunch runs toward Gingrich, maybe Romney if he can get evangelicals on board--but Palin ain't it."
Was that your quote or mine, there ksand99?
I am looking for (See #1, above) but I don't see it. Give me a hint what you are referring to.
You sure are using your mouse to do a lot of copying. Hope you don't wear out that poor thing.
And she wanted to overcharge the poor Iowa Family Policy Center just for a little speech!
$100,000!
Iowa Republicans wince at Sarah Palin's $100K speaking fee
By Jonathan Martin, 10/29/09 5:06 AM EDT
A conservative Iowa group's effort to lure Sarah Palin to its banquet next month has had an unintended effect: Rather than exciting conservatives about the prospect of a visit from the former Alaska governor, the group's plan to raise a six-figure sum to bring her to the state has GOP activists recoiling at the thought of paying to land a politician's speaking appearance.
The Iowa Family Policy Center's effort to cobble together $100,000 for Palin would represent a striking departure from customary practice in the first-in-the-nation state, these Republicans say, noting that a generation of White House hopefuls has paid their own way to boost their party and presidential ambitions.
LarryVegas said that Palin was really popular, and had a lot of support to run in Iowa.
That wasn't true. Only 30-something percent said they would vote for her.
Now he's asking if she's running for office...
When he quoted a poll about her running for office.
Larry, what's wrong, buddy?
"at least Palin's book was truthful and is more legitimate as a non-fiction book."
Um, so either Palin lied about asking her family if she should accept the Vice President spot with McCain, like she said during the campaign.
Or she's lying in her book and on her book tour, when she said there was no poll with her family.
Either way, Palin's a liar, which means the stars in Larry's eyes are probably bigger!
$100,000? Now that is ridiculous. The couple who snuck in to see the President last week wanted $500,000 for information on how they were able to sneak in.
And you guys keep saying Sarah Palin is dumb. Appears to me that she is doing pretty well for herself.
Hey you still haven't told me how much she stands to make off two million books sold...
Larry said that 26 MILLION PEOPLE voted for Palin in a PBS online poll...
Then it turned out that the online poll let anyone vote as many times as they wanted.
So that was another lie.
Then Larry makes a comparison between Palin's favorability numbers and a completely unrelated measure of Obama's job performance and thinks this means they're equal.
They're not equal. Not even close. So that's another LarryLie.
Then he gets mad that anyone is comparing Obama to Palin, when he was the one that brought it up!
Now who are you quoting there ksand99?
She said what? She has no poll in her family? Oh the humanity of it all.
There you go again, talking about polls again. Are you sure you don't have a poll in your bedroom?
ksand99 sure likes to use the word liar a lot.
Then Larry tries to prove that Palin is well-liked because a plurality of republicans in Iowa like her.
He doesn't realize that GOP party identification is at almost record lows, so not many people are identifying themselves as republicans anymore!
Hey ksand99. Do you have any idea how many times you have called someone a liar today? I think you are about to set a record.
You better take a break and take an aspirin, as you seem to be doing a lot of spinning lately.
Larry, if you would work on being honest, you wouldn't be called a liar.
Instead, you just spin, spin, spin.
And when we look behind your spin, we find your distortions, lies, and the lack of crucial context.
Don't you like O'Reilly? You wouldn't last a second in the No Spin Zone!
When you try to quote polls, they often say the opposite of what you're trying to prove.
You've done more to undermine yourself in a single day than anyone I've ever seen, and that includes jfSgtRockNance32!
Poll after poll shows how unpopular Palin is, and her numbers aren't getting much better!
Maybe sometime next decade her favorables will be higher than her unfavorables!
She should take a lesson or two from Hilary!
No, I did not realize that there ksand99. The only thing that I realized is that two million books make quite a stack.
Hey, I called you a spinner first. You can't call me one now. Besides, I don't think there is anything behind your spin...
Is anyone else out there? If so, and bless you if you are, have you noticed that ksand99 is posting faster than one person can write? Maybe he has a little assistance there. Now what do you call that?
And then there's Palin's disasterous interviews!
She was intimidated by Katie Couric, of all people!
Katie Couric is the least intimidating person I know. If she can't handle Katie Couric, there's no way she could handle Hugo Chavez!
The world community would lose all respect for America. They would beg for George W. Bush to come back.
She's been a P.R. disaster, Larry.
Between her numerous public and private problems, there's your lies, distortions and fake internet polls to talk about. You've given me a lot to talk about.
I think it's about time for you to mention how many books she's sold again.
Hey ksand99... How many more books do you think that Sarah Palin has sold since we started this line of discussion?
It appears that you are re posting some of your old posts...
Lies, lies and more lies... That all you Liberals can say when you are in a corner.
I hope I have given you a lot to think about. Maybe you have time to change your ways and become an asset to humanity...
"The inexperienced Alaska governor wowed the party's conservative base with her image as a plain-talking, happy-hunting hockey mom when John McCain nominated her a month ago."
"But now even conservative commentators are admitting that she is not ready for the White House, after her uncertain performance with top CBS News presenter Katie Couric."
Though she did not commit a one-line gaffe, many of her answers were rambling, vague and ill-informed, while she appeared nervous and like an actor struggling to remember her lines.
Questioned about her boast that being governor of a state that borders the frozen wastes of eastern Russia added to her understanding of foreign policy, she said: "As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It's Alaska."
"Asked if the US financial crisis was leading the country towards another Great Depression, her reply was: "Not necessarily this, as it's been proposed, has to pass or we're going to find ourselves in another Great Depression. But, there has got to be action - bipartisan effort - Congress not pointing fingers at one another but finding the solution to this, taking action..."
"Having claimed that Mr McCain, the Republican's presidential candidate, had a strong record of supporting more financial regulation during his 26 years in the Senate, she could not name one example and resorted to saying: "I'll try to find you some, and I'll bring them to you."
"Ed Rollins, who managed Ronald Reagan's landslide victory in 1984, said: "I would let her do fundraisers, I would send her to the party base. I wouldn't put her in many more interviews like this."
Here we go again... quotes from some unnamed source.
How much did you say Sarah Palin has made off her new book?
You can call me names, and criticize me all you want. I don't mind, Larry. You may not think I'm an asset to humanity. Is that's the best you've got?
Meanwhile, I'll be discussing Sarah Palin, who is the topic of this letter to the editor.
Have I mentioned her love of earmarks, and her lies about fighting them? It turns out, as mayor of Wasilla, she hired a lobbyist to go to Washington to bring earmarks back to Alaska.
And she supported the Bridge to Nowhere... she even accepted the cash that was earmarked for it!
She's got a problem with the truth... like some other republicans I know.
If her book and some personal attacks is all you've got, I've already won!
I think yesterday you said you don't have a problem with anything Palin's done, including her love of earmarks. Am I right? I think so.
So you support her, even though she lied to the American people? I mean, she didn't bend the truth a bit or anything, she just lied to the American people.
I'm also curious about all those ethics laws that she was accused of violating.
"In a 263-page report released by Alaska's Legislative Council following a six-hour closed doors hearing, investigator Steve Branchflower said Governor Palin was guilty of violating state ethics rules for public officials."
"I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110 (a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act," Branchflower wrote in the report."
It's a shame she couldn't respect her office. Lucky for the citizens of Alaska, the job as Governor was too much for her to handle, so she quit.
And ladies and gentlemen, here we go again. ksand99 just can't get over Sarah Palin's successes.
And what have you won there ksand99? Spending a good part of your day on a damn computer and proving nothing does not sound like a win to me. Now if you had just finished writing a best selling book, now that would be a win.
There's also the ethics violation that made her repay the state of Alaska for travel she charged them for that she shouldn't have.
"Media reports that Palin had charged the state thousands of dollars on commercial travel for her daughters that was not necessary for official state business was followed by an October ethics complaint over that allegation."
Man, why would anyone support someone who is that unethical?
I guess that's why she's so unpopular, right Larry?
Ethics violations were a deemed unwarranted and were dismissed except for one travel one that was repaid.
There you go again there ksand99. You just had to climb back in to the gutter.
I tell you there ksand99, you need to buy Sarah's book so you won't be so misinformed...
Her success?
She failed as Mayor of Wasilla.
She failed as Governor of Alaska.
She failed as McCain's Vice Presidential nominee.
She failed so much she had to quit her job.
What "success" are you talking about, Larry? Do tell!
It's 10:00 and my bedtime, so I am off to get my beauty sleep.
See you tomorrow, and be sure to let the bedbugs bite.
Then there's the problem with her legal defense fund...
"The report, written July 14 and first reported Tuesday by The Associated Press, said that the governor had an unfair fund-raising advantage over ordinary citizens because she was a public official, that her fund was trading on her status as a public official to solicit donations and that contributions to the fund could amount to improper gifts under Alaska law. It recommended that Ms. Palin refuse to accept payment from the fund."
So many ethics questions, so many violations, it makes people dizzy.
Yet her fan club still cheers for her. It must be nice to be so oblivious to her failures.
Yup, I ask about all this "success" she's had and Larry calls it quits.
Guess he really is a Sarah Palin fan... her bad habits are rubbing off on people.
I don't think she's much of a role model, though. The majority of Americans agree with me. Her unfavorable poll numbers dominate over her favorable numbers.
The American people got to know Sarah and said, "Thanks but no thanks!"
"I can keep this up just as long or longer then you can there ksand99."
Turns out, that was another Larry Lie. =:)
That big baby Larry had to go to bed.
Those pesky ethics violations scared poor
Larry to his core.
Holy Cow, Lar! The Sandman has made a total MOCKERY of your Ali-quality rope-a-dope tactics!
He has knocked you out, Lar! The Sandman made you go to sleep punch drunk! At this point, Larry, I would pull a Roberto Duran and take the "NO MAS" way out... well, actually that IS what you've done. Ksand, unless Larry thinks of something as he's counting sheep, and I've seen no indication that that would be possible, I believe you've scored a TKO!
P.S., Lar;
CHARLES MANSON could write a book and sell 2 million copies, perhaps many more. Would that prove Charlie is somehow "worthy"?
So the moral of this story is that:
Katie Couric wiped the floor with
Sarah Palin.
KATIE COURIC FOR PRESIDENT.
I think that proves that anyone has an audience, gmag. Even the mentally insane like Sara, err, Charles Manson.
Book sales and unscientific internet polls are completely unreliable and a really pathetic way of gauging public opinion.
Scientific polls are very representative.
Larry didn't see that he was contradicting himself, though. He brought up the Iowa poll, then immediately backtracked when it was revealed that the great majority of Iowans that were polled in the poll he cited actually did not find her favorable. Then, suddenly, polls didn't matter!
I love these Sarah Palin letters to the editors, though. They are always alot of fun! You always get the Palin Fan Club to expose themselves and valiantly try to defend Palin from all the criticism.
They never seem to understand that Palin invited this criticism when she accepted the Veep nomination from McCain. She bought into this circus, and she's USING this circus to make money.
She's just another politician, just like ALL the rest (Democrat or republican).
Only mindless drones follow "ethics violater"
Palin.
Hey Richard - I believe you're the first one ever to attack Palin personally and fail to intelligently debate her values and beliefs.
How original!
larry5:
If you call ethics violations, values,
your sick.
We don't need any more crooks in office.
What a political view you give Henderson.
im plagerizing here; palin/ wursberger in 2012: DUMB AND PLUMBER.
I think the most intelligent comment about Palin was something along the lines of "While not a presidential candidate in my book, she's a solid spokesperson for conservative values" I can see that, but those giving her credibility as a political mind rather than a political mouthpiece are delusional.
Wow, I awake this fine morning to see that this absurd debate generated more than 200 posts. Wow, otra vez.
I'm not part of the Palin rooting section but there is something very interesting going on here. It appears that populism is alive on the Right. And that ain't a bad thing, especially considering the elitists currently setting policy.
Its a new day, so have at it boys and girls!
I wonder how many more Sarah Palin books were sold after my good night's sleep last night? Maybe a few thousand?
Two million books sold and still going strong...
Yep, still selling books
"TEMPE, Ariz.--Hundreds of Sarah Palin fans flocked to a Costco store in Tempe on Tuesday to meet the former Alaska governor and vice presidential candidate and to have her sign their copies of "Going Rogue."
Many stayed in line overnight in 45-degree weather wearing thick coats, wool socks, gloves and blankets, and attempted to sleep in camping chairs and against a concrete wall. The first person in line, Drew Sweatte, got there 27 hours early."
Liberals just can't understand the fascination that Middle America has with Sarah Palin.
"Liberals just can't understand the fascination that Middle America has with Sarah Palin."
You mean: like craning one's neck to look at a car crash?
I like the context given to your book sales talking point: only 1 in every 300 Americans have actually bought her book. That's not what I would call a phenominon.
But when you look at national polling, "middle America" is really not in love with Sarah Palin. They're not even in "like" with Sarah Palin.
National polls prove she is not well admired, except by the fringe right-wing.
"Two million books sold and still going strong..."
Her publisher reports only 1 million books sold as of yesterday. Maybe the stars in your eyes are inflating your book sales figures, Larry.
There's no need to be dishonest, unless you are desperate.
Here is an actual video of people who bought Sarah Palin's book.
Can you hear those loud boos? Maybe they spent a few minutes reading it and now want a refund!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8mAZhOJI......
And now Larry's inflating her sales numbers.
Yet another Larry Lie.
Uneducated Americans are often fascinated with talking heads such as Palin. She couldn't cut it in politics, so she stepped back down to the private sector to "write" a book. Talk about a sell-out. Granted most of her followers have the reading level of a 4th grader, perhaps she should have written a pop-out book.
Hey ksand99... Do you have your friend with you today to help you post?
Most of us would call that a cheat or a fraud.
But I know that fair play is not in the Liberal vocabulary...
I see you have nothing of substance to add to this discussion, Larry. But I would like to know why you are being dishonest about Palin's book sales.
Hey edgewise, do you also have someone helping you post?
Larry, aren't you outraged at the numerous ethics questions and charges that were leveled at Sarah Palin?
Doesn't that indicate she's extremely incompetent and unaware of the basics of politics? Shouldn't she have been more careful and adhered to the rules and laws of the state of Alaska?
Why would anyone ignore those issues?
Maybe they don't care that she's been found as having violated ethics rules. I wonder what that says about LarryVegas?
That Sarah Palin Fan Club really is willing to overlook Palin's many weaknesses in service of their obsession.
Why are you being dishonest about Palin's book sales, Larry? A million is nothing to cough at, but I don't see the benefit in lying about the sales.
Is it that you've given up on trying to convince us via poll numbers that people love Sarah Palin, since you can't find a poll that supports that conclusion, and since every national poll refutes your claim?
Larry, you post more frequently than I do, so the same boneheaded charge could be leveled at you.
Suffice it to say, you're obviously intimidated!
So ksand99, do you have your helper with you today to post along with you in your name? I guess you are a real team player. One posts during the day under ksand99 and another joins in during the evening.
I am not even outraged that you would be a fraud.
But it doesn't really matter, Sarah Palin's books sales are increasing in number as we speak.
You and you liberal friend are no more than a minor distraction...
This is, perhaps, the most puzzling claim I've seen yet.
LarryVegas, your paranoia is showing.
Let's do some math, shall we?
LarryVegas had, as of 9 am, 2048 posts over 119 days, giving an average of 17.2 posts per day.
Kevin had, as of 9 am, 1827 posts over 491 days, giving an average of 3.72 posts per day.
And yet he thinks I have some sort of helper?
Based on the quality of your posts, LarryVegas, do your cats post the majority of your comments?
"But it doesn't really matter, Sarah Palin's books sales are increasing in number as we speak."
It matters that you're lying about her book sales. As of yesterday, her publisher said 1 million. You said it was 2 million.
Why the funny math, LarryVegas?
Larry's "going rogue" with the facts.
Palin's book publisher said they increased the print to 2 million, not the number of books actually sold.
Yet again, Larry just doesn't comprehend what he's actually reading.
LOL, Larry's gone rogue!
Or maybe Larry's cat squadron went rogue!
Like when "Going Rogue went rogue!"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18...
"LarryVegas had, as of 9 am, 2048 posts over 119 days, giving an average of 17.2 posts per day."
It's amazing how frequently one can write without actually making a point.
Amazing it is... Simply amazing...
Liberals play a game of disrupt and harass...
Like a pack of hyenas, they have to remain in their pack attacking from all sides.
Meanwhile, Middle America is waking up to their antics. They are purchasing Sarah Palin's book and learning how deceitful the Liberals are.
"Liberals play a game of disrupt and harass..."
Says the guy asking about my bedroom...
So the argument has gone from "America loves Sarah Palin!" to "Middle America loves Sarah Palin!" to "Some people in or around the middle of North America may have bought Sarah Palin's book!"
I've heard 'Going Rogue' is a great gag gift. That could definitely explain the sales!
1 in 300 Americans could definitely be wrong!
Larry, you've posted so much misinformation on this comment thread alone, it's way too late to try to play the poor victim card.
I am just about finished reading "Going Rogue" and now I know why the Liberal left is so dead set against anyone reading Sarah Palin's new book.
Liberals are exposed in her book as harassers and disruptors. They lie and cheat to further their political agendas.
Middle America will be looking for blood as they read Sarah Palin's book.
If you are interested in learning the truth about Sarah Palin and politics, spend a few bucks and purchase her book.
Who is this middle America you're talking about?
Sarah's base of support is the far-right. Most polls show her supporters are in the fringe of the Republican party.
Are you saying that middle America are all Republicans?
I just finished Sarah Palin's book "Going Rogue" and yep, now I know why the Liberals are so upset.
A reader will understand how ruthless and completable these Liberal can be. No one or no thing is beneath their scorn and dirty tricks.
If enough Americans read her book, there is sure to be major changes in politics in 2010 and then 2012. Liberals will not like these changes, as they will be marginalized as nothing but dis tractors and haters.
Even on this discussion site, Liberals are less then honest in their postings. Some double up on posting using several Liberals to post under the same name.
Nothing or nobody can escape the hate that the Liberals like to dish out...
"(CNN) -- Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's memoir "Going Rogue" has sold more than one million copies after debuting only two weeks ago, her publisher Harper Collins tells CNN. In light of the book's overwhelming sales, a Harper Collins spokesperson said they have decided to increase its printing to 2.8 million copies, more than a million more then the initial order."
SPRINGFIELD, Mo. (AP) -- Sarah Palin's million-copy book tour is headed to southwest Missouri. The former GOP vice presidential candidate was scheduled to sign copies of her book "Going Rogue" from 10 a.m. to noon today at the Borders bookstore in Springfield.
Store managers expect an overflow crowd and are limiting access to 1,000 patrons. Even those who get into the store aren't necessarily guaranteed an autograph.
Palin will speak tonight at the College of the Ozarks near Branson. Tickets are no longer available, and the speech is closed to the news media.
Publisher HarperCollins said Tuesday the Palin memoir has sold 1 million copies just two weeks after publication. THE PRINT RUN HAS BEEN INCREASED TO NEARLY 3 MILLION COPIES....
Dreams was written by William Ayers, that "guy in the neighborhood." Anyone who has ever listened to Obama read from the teleprompter knows that he cannot recite a full sentence.
The Palin haters criticize Sarah for forgetting a few minor facts in her book, but they don't criticize Obama for forgetting that he had a relationship with Bill Ayers. Obama stated that Ayers was just a guy who just lived down the street. Obama forgot that he had a party at Bill Ayers' house to kick off his campaign for the Illinois State seat...
Consider this rambling sentence of O's book, 'Dreams of My Father', recently printed in Slate Magazine's forum, The Fray: "The apartment was small, with slanting floors and irregular heat and a buzzer downstairs that didn't work, so that visitors had to call ahead from a pay phone at the corner gas station, where a black Doberman the size of a wolf paced through the night in vigilant patrol, its jaws clamped around an empty beer bottle."
This sentence was written by a Harvard grad??? A person with a 'stellar education.'
You, sir, are obviously a snob. No matter where one gets an education, one must have common sense to go with it, or all is for naught. Sarah Palin has the common sense to go with her education, while O has none at all. He needs a large body of 'czars' to tell him what to do because he hasn't a clue. I know a man like him who has the 'stellar' education you seem to think those in government should have. He doesn't have the common sense to come in out of the rain!
Get over yourself. We need good, honest people in government; those who know what it's like to be out here worried about how to pay the bills. Not career politicians whose 'golden parachutes' and monied backgrounds are so far above the common American they could not possibly understand what is good and right for the constituents who put them in office.
To this liberal, Palin is the best thing that can happen for the Dems. For sure she will always have her core supporters, but she needs to get the support of the independents to have any chance. Of course there is interest in her as a person and as result in her book from both the left and right (and maybe from foreigners) but here again that does not translate to agreement to her political views from everyone who buys her book. Bottom line, Republicans needs someone who can gain the support of the independents and if Palin is the best they can do they will have a difficult time in the next Presidential election.
Sarah Palin did not lose the election for the GOP--it was already lost. Party leaders knew that McCain would lose because of the Iraq war and the bad economy, so they decided to try a wild gamble--pick a photogenic lady for his running mate to make the ticket look better. I'd like to read her book but I'll wait until it's selling for 2 cents on Amazon.
people that worship this lady is what is wrong with this nation ..only the simple and the stupid like this train wreck why becuase they identify with her.. anyone with half a brain can see she an empty head.. a prop....a disgrace quick sound bites for the masses "drill baby drill" like thats good plan for the future with a finite supply of oil... guys just wanna sleep with her and fat house wives want to be her its sad....
LarryVegas - "Liberals play a game of disrupt and harass... Like a pack of hyenas, they have to remain in their pack attacking from all sides."
You've got to be goddamn kidding me, right? Was it the Liberals that showed up yelling and screaming at Health care reform debates, and town halls? Was it the Liberals holding up disgusting picture of THE PRESIDENT with a Hitler mustache? It amazes me to no end that so many on the so called Christian right aren't willing to help their brothers and sisters in getting healthcare when so many die or go broke because of lack thereof. What would Jesus do I wonder? But again, I guess the hard core right doesn't think about that....all they do is spew inflamitory remarks about what Jesus would say about what goes on in people's bedrooms!
Get your head out of your ass before you insult those of us with liberal leanings. All you Palin lovers need to stick to Fix News so you can keep gobbling down the bs propaganda. After all, we liberals might knock off your granny one of these days with these "death panels" she's been known to blather on about.
Oh, and while we're at it, keep Palin and the rest of your right wing legislators away from my ovaries!
Get jobs people. or at least better hobbies. I like to post but this is ridiculous
The Liberal hate elitists are back in force...
Rocco states: "anyone with half a brain can see she an empty head." You should know there Rocco!
KarinaP spews hate with vulgarisms. Maybe Karina is another pro choicer who justifies her abortions by attacking pro life people. You know Karina, you are kind of a nasty person.
Hey GrandmaCrabby... Your name is very fitting. Maybe you are going to write a book since you are so witty. A little advice... Leave this chapter out.
"Sarah Palin applauds Obama's Afghan troop increase
(AP) -- 52 minutes ago
NEW YORK -- Sarah Palin says she supports President Barack Obama's decision to boost the U.S. military presence in Afghanistan."
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Maybe President Obama will read Sarah's new book and find out what's in store for him for not following the far left Liberal dogma...
It's the Larry and ksand show! Love it. Will it be the same time tommorrow so I can go get some Bud Lights and turn off my T.V. and enjoy this. keep the fight Larry!
You can jump right in anytime there Bandit.
ksand99 is a fraud. There are at least two people using the same login. They are the true example of how low far left Liberals will stoop to smear.
Wow... Did you read KarinaP's post? She is one mean, nasty woman... A real biter...
Karina needs to understand the function that walls will play when they start their revolution.
We let the inexperienced black guy give it a try, I say let the woman have the next shot rather her than Hillary for sure. More firsts for this great nation.
GrandmaCrabby... I too voted for McCain. I was a big supporter of McCain in 2000 and still have my posters and t-shirts. But, I was having some doubts about him in 2008. He seemed to have lost some of that fighting spirit that he had in 2000.
I was disappointed that his campaign did got go after Obama's prior associations. I think it was important then and now I think that it is even more important.
I am not sure it would have made any difference who McCain picked as a running mate. Obama used dirty politics against McCain like he did to Hillary Clinton. I would like to see Hillary run against Obama in the 2012 election.
My opinion is that Hillary would and should have been President if it was not for the dirty tricks of the Obama campaign used against her.
Oh well... That's politics...
Sarah Palin scares the heck out of leftwingnuts and their newspapers, like the las vegas sun.
LOL
Oh Crabby... Believe it or not, I am not that big of fan of Sarah Palin. I just cant stand seeing a women being called a dummy and worse just because she is a woman. Sarah Palin was and still is being railroaded by both the Democrats and the Republicans. I dislike both parties.
One of my favorite female politicians is Jeane Kirkpatrick...
Hey Las Vegas Sun,
Hows about installing some sort of a thumbs down thumbs up counter for each and every comment posted.
Liberals are just jealous because they have to look at that god aweful looking Nancy Pelosi and watch her stroke Osama Obama's ego during every press conference.
If I were running for prez in 2 years, I'd put her on my (CHEERLEADING SQUAD) any day! Woo, woo!
If I were running for prez in 2 years, I'd put her on my (SLOW BOAT TO CHINA) any day!
Is Pelosi really the President?
If I were running for prez in 2 years, I'd put her on my (DO NOT INTERVIEW LIST) any day!
If I were running for prez in 2 years, I'd put her on my (DO NOT RECESSITATE LIST) any day!
If I were running for prez in 2 years, I'd put her on my (campaign staff) any day!
I hope the Burrito Bandit doesn't read the last six or so posts...
Talking to a ghostwriter doesn't make Caribou Barbie an author nor does it make the idiot qualified to be President. What she does and does well is embarass the Republican party and for those who slept through the appointed President Bush years,...it was he and Cheney who made the horrible mess Obama is trying to clean up. Unfortunately he's a bit slow in doing so, and I fear two 8 year terms wouldn't be enough time to repair the damage done by the Bush Crime Family.
Palin's fifteen minutes of fame should be over by now, only it continues on, fed by those who missed the reality of what happened to our country during the Bush years. The same people that think Sarah is cool also think Dancing with the Stars & American Idol are more important than what has happened to our nation.
Hell we couldn't organize a revolution these days because of all the crap spewing from the manure box,...far too many couldn't concentrate on a revolution because they're too busy hooked on trash TV. More people are involved with Tiger Woods and his problems than those of the country,...and all of this combined is why the country and our laws were abused under Bush & Cheney. Obama didn't make the mess, he inherited it, and Sexy Sarah from way up north damn sure couldn't fix it,...but she could make it much much worse. Drinking the Palin Kool Aid is bad for you, and bad for the country. In that comes a guarantee.
"I just cant stand seeing a women being called a dummy and worse just because she is a woman. "
More Larry Lies!
Palin's gender has nothing to do with the perception of her intelligence.
The perception of Sarah Palin is based solely on her public statements and her stated positions.
Why is it that the party of personal responsibility never wants to make their own take responsibility for themselves?
Sarah Palin made the poor judgment to get on the ticket with John McCain. No one forced her to do that. But Larry probably thinks that's the Democrats' fault!
Sarah Palin made the poor judgment to beg Washington for millions in earmarks, and then lie to the country by telling us she was a crusader against pork. But Larry probably thinks that's the Democrats' fault!
Sarah Palin made the poor judgment to raise taxes on the oil companies in a bad economy. But Larry probably thinks that's the Democrats' fault!
Face it: every time Palin is criticized for her shortcomings, Larry blames it on the Democrats. He refuses to admit any of her problems.
He's willing to lie about Palin's popularity.
He's willing to lie about Palin's book sales.
He is obsessed!
This affair has become like the green drips, an NSU that penicillin won't kill.
She's not my cup of tea, but neither is Barack.
How's that Hope and Change thing woking out for you?
More troops to Afghanistan doesn't seem like change.
"More troops to Afghanistan doesn't seem like change."
Obama repeatedly and consistently called for a focus on Afghanistan before, during, and after the election. I guess you weren't paying attention.
Here he is in July of 2008 calling for a surge of troops in Afghanistan.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...
Hope and change? Not only do we have a timetable for possible withdrawal, a clear, concice plan for action and a renewed focus on Afghanistan, but the hope that we can fix the disaster that GWB and Dick Cheney left us with.
How many people are posting under the ksand99 name this evening?
I had been warned months ago that this was happening and last evening at least two were posting together.
So do you call ksand99 a cheat or a fraud? Take your pick.
It just goes to show how low a Liberal will go to disrupt and divide...
Larry: this is a typical Leftist trick. Remember, to them the ends always justify the means. Birdie = gmag = kiss&69 = teamster, etc. This probably can be traced back to SEIU. Pretty consistent with the whole Global Warming/Climate Change/ Redistribution of Wealth Scam, isn't it?
and all the crazies go out! They should just take the whole southern US and let them become a country.
Liberals like ksand99 and friends represent the ugly side of politics. They have no morals and consider themselves elitists when actually they are lacking in total character.
"and all the crazies go out! They should just take the whole southern US and let them become a country."
Can you believe it?
Mr. Meow is a "moderate".
Yep...that is definitely words coming from a "moderate".
For those of you out there with an open mind. Sarah Palin's book "Going Rouge" is a good read. I just finished it this afternoon. It answers many of the allegations that were brought up during the election by the press and left wing pundits.
It sheds light on how ruthless Liberals are when they feel threatened.
And without a doubt, Sarah Palin threatens the Liberal supposedly hold on the voters.
As you have seen many times on this site, Liberals will stop at nothing by slandering, name calling and demeaning those with a different political opinion from theirs.
These narrow minded intellectual inbreds dont understand about diversity of thought. I guess you forgot or most likely did not know Bush made better grades than Kerry. Yes HarvARD AND YALE ARE NON-stellar colleges I agree with you, Harvard lost 500 million dollars in their endowment fund and are the schools you want to lead our nation? They are over rated and teach students on how to be crooks. Like our last four Presidents. Reagan he was educated at a small college and he has been our best President in the last 50 years.
Liberals are disgusting, miserable people. If you don't agree with them they attack you like a rabid coyote.
"One white Christian here, voting for Palin."
One white Christian here, not voting for Palin.
"Look people
someone needs to make the Palin Porno movie,,dam she blows"
There's one out that's called something like "naylin' paylin'". something like that, I saw on the news the other day...lol!
Another famous "moderate" stand by Mr Meow:
"There's one out that's called something like "naylin' paylin'". something like that, I saw on the news the other day...lol!"
Very very moderate.......
Justmy02:
SARAH PALIN IS A CROOK.
No sane person can overlook her ethics
violations.
You say we need good, honest people in
Government? That's a laugh.
Sarah Palin did not help or have anything to do with sinking the GOP's presidential hopes in 2008, it was pretty much a lost cause already! In fact a lot of us who were not going to vote, did vote for Palin, more for the future, we didn't give a crap about John McCain!
I'm sorry to inform Bush was no conservative and the election was lost because of him and no one else.
I know why you don't like Palin, because she's not a lez, her husband not a homo, she didn't abort her last child, she has a normal family and earned here way to where she is now without the help of the Republican main stream!
It kind of makes me want to puke, to read comments and the letter to the editor, by people only repeat what they hear and support a socialist, American hating administration of Obama and you clowns.
I'm not a Christian, I'm not a Republican I'm not A right wing conservative I'm American and I believe in the our constitution. I'm tired of thieves both Republican's and socialist Demorats.
"So do you call ksand99 a cheat or a fraud? Take your pick."
Larry's more interested in employing the politics of character assassination than answering factual charges against Sarah Palin.
He said he's read her book, but can't answer questions about the numerous ethics charges brought against her, and the various reports that found she violated ethics rules in Alaska.
He said he's read her book, but can't dispute that she consistently and shamelessly begged Washington for earmarks... first as mayor of Wasilla, then as governor of Alaska.
He said he's read her book, but can't explain her lies about the Bridge to Nowhere and her support of the project, even after she lied to the American people.
Larry can make all the unsubstantiated allegations he would like, Those charges come from a position of weakness. When you can't answer the argument, make up some wild story... right Larry?
So typical of the hypocritical republican party and of the Palin Fan Club to cry and whine about, "slandering, name calling and demeaning those with a different political opinion from theirs" and then calling me a "cheat or a fraud."
They continue to be shameless liars and hypocrites.
So typical of the hypocritical republican party and of the Palin Fan Club to be lost in a torrent of criticism on Sarah Palin.
So typical of them to be drowning in the facts: that her lies and misrepresentations reveal she is not some "Washington outsider," nor an "independent thinker." She is the quintessential politician who claims to be above the fray when really she's so mired in muck.
When they encounter someone who knows how much of a liar and hypocrite Sarah Palin is, they can't answer the charges, just whine and moan and throw phony allegations.
They typical hypocritical republican.
Which ksand99 is posting this morning? Is it cheat or is it fraud? Or maybe both are posting under the same name this morning.
These guys are nothing but hate mongers who have the creditability of a couple of biting sows.
I am not here to promote Sarah Palin. But, I get tired of these endless nonsense attacks against her or anyone else by these liberal elitists.
Disrupt and divide is part of their tactics. In stead of allowing a decent discussion on a topic, they try to steer the discussion off track and it usually ends in nothing more than a distraction from the topic.
Maybe their names should be "Disrupt&Divide."
Is that the best you've got? More playground platitudes?
Your rhetoric is recycled from yesterday. Nothing new from Larry!
When he's outmatched and outsmarted, he's got nothing left to rely on than cut and paste.
He can't answer the questions about Palin's ethics.
He can't answer the questions about Palin's earmark lies.
He can't answer the questions about Palin's corporate tax increases.
Larry's lost.
Well, well, well... Who do we have here today?
It's one of the ksand99 boys. Is it cheat or is it fraud? These two guys post under the same name of ksand99...
Don't bother to get in a discussion with these guys. All they want to do is distract and disrupt.
Just another example of how far these liberal elitists will go to shut down discussion...
Hey LarryVegas - how am I nasty? Because I told you to get your head out of your ass?
And this? "KarinaP spews hate with vulgarisms. Maybe Karina is another pro choicer who justifies her abortions by attacking pro life people. You know Karina, you are kind of a nasty person."
If anything reads nasty it would be right there. Don't assume you know my stance on anything, buddy. Go be a hypocrite somewhere else. Perhaps in a land where Viagara is covered by medical insurance but birth control pills are not, where womens health is secondary to your own. Oh nevermind....that's already the case! Oh and I bet for all your pro-choicing you're likely pro-death penalty too, huh?
I'm not sure why you only think Liberals are elitists, when Palin and her hard core right cronies make it sound like there is nothing in America but the mid west? What? New York doesn't exist because it's not full of people working the land? It's almost like some sick form of reverse discrimination. "If you're not with us, your anti-America" "If you're not middle america you must be some elitist pig" Whatever buddy.
Nice to see you haven't changed any there Karina...
Still as nasty and hating as ever.
So, you say you are from New York? You sound like it...
And yet again, you haven't rebuffed any of my points, just resorted to a personal attack by again calling me nasty.
Daddy, is that you? ::rolls eyes::
And I never said I was from New York LarryVegas. Proof positive you only hear (or in this case) read into things what you want to.
Here's to you Larry!! ::holds up my Starbucks cup::
Dear friends, thank you for allowing me the singular honor of recording the historic 300th posting here.
Karin: you are indeed a nasty Leftist wench.
Congratulations there Mike...
I would send you a cup of Starbucks, but Karina took it and I don't think I am man enough to get it back. Karina would probably rip my arm off and beat me over the head with it. I wonder if Karina is related to my wife???
Why do Liberals think that we have to "rebuff" the Liberal talking points that they throw at us? Most liberal talking points are like a bucket of crap and no matter how they stir it, it still smells like crap.
Again congratulations on the honor bestowed on you... It's like Nobel Peace Prize. You don't have to anything to earn it, just be there...
Phargo: KarinKarindamnyou... I like it... Like I told Mike, I hope she's not related to my first wife. I see certain similarities...
Larry, I sincerely thank you. Karina reminds me of an experience I had in New York about ten years ago. In the company of a close friend from college, I was waiting on line to dine at a trendy restaurant on the Upper East Side in NYC. During our wait, we were discussing a comely young maiden that I wanted to date and who had once been a middle distance runner in high school and had recorded a rather impressive time of 2 minutes 10 seconds for the half mile. I remarked outloud, "that's a great time for a girl. I wonder if I could beat her in a footrace?" Standing directly in front of us were several women in their mid-twenties who had simialar "butch" hairstyles. One of them turned around, looked me in the eye and said with a very nasty tone, "A great time for a girl, huh.?" I then mentioned to my friend, "Well, I might lose a footrace to a girl but I've never known one who could beat me in a fistfight." Nothing further was or needed to be said.
That was Rachel Maddow
Good one there, Mike... Have you heard from the LV SUN yet? I bet they are busy making up a big plague for you with Harry's picture and statement of congratulations on it...
I'm sure you meant "plaque" when you wrote plague, Larry, but the incompetent spelling just fell flat.
So, since you have posted more on this page than anyone else as Palin's #1 Fan, why have you abandoned defending her? I suppose you've seen the writing on the wall: those who know Palin's record will refuse to stand by her, while those who bow to her every wish and buy into the hype through purchasing that book written by a ghostwriter are nothing more than an empty shell game.
They support her, but only through ignorance of her actual record and policy positions. They're more interested in hearing about her years in college and looking at her picture than hearing about her thoughts on AfPak.
Her bumbling responses to detailed questions give away her talking-point philosophy of governance. She is exactly the type of puppet who is willingly taken advantage of by those who intimidate and want to control her.
What does that say about those who claim the fame of being her #1 fan?
Books: Yessssssss, it might have been!
Larry: Harry's too busy running for reelection to worry about a little minnow like me.
It is extraordinary how little Sarah (that's how I think of her) can inspire so much Ying and Yang. Reminds me a little of Jeanne d'Arc. Take that Gregory aka Birdie aka Teamster aka kissmybutt.
Unfortunately for Sarah, poll after poll have proven that she inspires more dread than admiration!
Larry may want to stick his head in the sand and call me names, but he can't escape that fact!
I'll wait for the laughs at this latest news:
Sarah Palin gave a speech and was *HONORED* by "Hard Work University!"
The woman who failed as mayor, failed as governor, failed as a vice presidential candidate and had to quit her job in shame was given an award for her hard work... failing.
http://wonkette.com/412513/that-weird-je...
teamster:
I am sane. Name one so-called ethics violation that was not started by the Democrats in order to try to bring down Sarah Palin. In addition, please name one with which she was charged that was found credible and for which she was actually found guilty. Before you start ranting, have some credible evidence with which to back yourself up. Hope that shoe leather tastes good...
BTW, have you looked into the ethics of the President and his cronies? 'Any sane person' cannot believe this group is ethical.
Sarah Palin is an angel by comparison.
Sarah Palin offers a voice of reason amid partisan bickering. She represents true American values shared by those who love this country and are deeply concerned with the direction the present administration is leading us. She may not ever be President but she does offer a common sense approach not heard from some more prominent Republicans. Her record of achievements, hard work, and solid background qualify her to be heard and not roundly dismissed.
Her record of acheivements include massive budget deficits in Wasilla, even after the millions in earmarks she requested from Washington.
"In fact, the controversial rape-kit funding cut was part of larger budget realignment overseen by Palin, where monies aimed at benefiting Wasilla citizens were in effect moved to pay for city legal defense and government employee transportation, including the lease of an SUV for the mayor and expensive improvements to the local airport she used for campaigning. "
Those are her budget priorities: cut services for citizens while increasing spending on government bureaucrats.
Her "true American values" include employing character assassination and guilt-by-association slander about her opponents. Truely, an American hero, right Ken?
More from her leadership priorities: put Wasilla into massive debt, even after raising sales taxes:
"During her term in office, Palin cut property taxes and other small taxes on business. But as the Anchorage Daily News points out, "She wasn't doing this by shrinking government." During her tenure, the budget of Wasilla (population 5,469 in 2000) "apart from capital projects and debt, rose from $3.9 million in fiscal 1996 to $5.8 million."
"Palin also successfully pushed through a sales tax increase in Wasilla, which went to fund a $15 million sports complex. However, a land dispute over the sight of the complex led to "years of legal wrangling" and cost Wasilla almost $1.7 million, "a lot more than the roughly $125,000 the city would have paid in 1998 if it had closed a deal to buy the property outright." Wasilla is still facing budget shortfalls from the case today."
"When Palin left office in 2002, Wasilla had "racked up nearly $20 million in long-term debt," or roughly $3,000 of debt per resident. "
She is a model of Reaganite economics: slash taxes on the wealthy, increase taxes on the middle class, and burn up the credit card before leaving office. I can see why the Reagan fanatics love her.
But make no mistake: she is no fiscal conservative. She may pay it alot of lip service (something Larry loves to read about, apparently) but when you explore her record, she is the opposite of a fiscal conservative.
Why would she be a hero for true fiscal hawks?
Meanwhile, her sycophant supporters spout absolute lies about her support.
26 million individuals voted for her in an online poll, right Larry?
"Karina is an interesting name. The ability to blow hot air and destroy thoughtful conversation." What thoughtful conversation are you referring to Phargo? The part where someone called me a wench? Or the part where LarryVegas just calls anyone of a liberal leaning either hyenas or animals.
I have yet to hear any legit commentary on where any of you stand on healthcare reform or anything close, what about fiscal reform, where do you stand on Palin QUITTING as Govenor, the ethics violations, anything?? All I've heard are a bunch of jerks who assume I'm a butch from New York. "Why should we rebuff anything you say?" Because that's what a dialogue is made of, not you bashing me calling me a pro-abortionist!! It's this same kind of ignorance that had your conservative fringe putting Hitler 'staches on the President's pictures.
Way to put the ass in class boys.
Why don't y'all have your wife get you a beer and hand you the remote, seeing as that's what you think women are meant for. Oh except for glorious Sarah Palin, who I dare say none of you EVER heard of until McCain tapped her for VP.
Ah, the left wing Palin haters are back and posting misinformation and ranting about Sarah Palin.
They are a dishonest lot, the bunch of them. ksand99 and his friends who post under the name. edgewise joins them at the hip are the lowest of the low. Cheaters and frauds they are.
The mission of these liberal low lifers is the distract and divide. Nothing more.
Pay no attention to them and if you are uncertain of facts concerning Sarah Palin, purchase her book like I did and you won't be sorry...
Back on post...
Sarah Palin's book, "Going Rogue" continues to number one (1) on BOTH Amazon and New York Times Bestsellers lists...
Palin on Wednesday drew thousands of supporters to a Borders bookstore in Springfield, Missouri, where she shook hands with people who waited outside for her in the bitter cold.
Afterwards, Palin told an estimated crowd of 5,000 packed in Keeter Gymnasium at College of the Ozarks that despite her resignation, she is moving on "in the battle with new strategy."
Meanwhile the Palin haters are fuming. They have told people not to pay an attention to Sarah Palin's new book, but the book keeps right on selling anyway.
Liberals have lost respect from the majority of Americans because of their constant wining and dirty tricks they have leveled on Palin.
A couple of the Sarah Palin haters who post on this site appear to dislike Sarah Palin just because she is a woman. These guys are nothing but sexists and bigots...
Hey karina...
The Independents and Conservatives who post on this forum are basically good people. They don't usually name call or are nasty people. They also support a woman's position in politics.
But not so for some the left winged Liberals who post here. They are hate filled and think that women do not belong in politics. They have ruthlessly attacked Sarah Palin for no other reason then just because she is a woman.
I respect both Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin for their efforts during the last election. I hope that Obama has not diminished Hillary's political ambition and will to run against him in 2012.
Larry continues to identify with Palin, utilizing the politics of personal character assassination rather than a rational, fact-based assessment of her policy platform and leadership history.
He calls anyone who disagrees with her, "a dishonest lot" but can't identify HOW they are dishonest.
He calls them "the lowest of the low," while demonstrating his poor knowledge of her career.
He says they are "cheaters and frauds." Unfortunately, the only person on this page that has committed multiple factual errors is Larry, himself.
He boasted 26 million people voted for Palin on a website. Even the website's own webmaster says this is not true.
He boasted that Palin is well-liked and respected, even though all national polls show Palin's unfavorables far outnumber her favorable numbers.
Instead, he continues to utter nonsense in the face of an unbiased review of her policy history.
When confronted with her policies, which expose her as a cynical and hypocritical politician who misrepresents her character and history, he responds with, "But she has a book that is selling."
A book does not make her honest. A book does not prove she is without fault.
Sarah Palin bravely stepped onto the national stage and described herself as a crusader against pork. She was not. She described herself as saying "Thanks, but no thanks" to the Bridge to Nowhere. She did not. She described herself as a friend of the average working joe, when in fact she cut services to the average joe while raising taxes on them, and using that revenue to pay for a car lease for her personal use.
The history and story she presented to the American people was a lie, and I feel bad for someone who would read that book and believe it.
"These guys are nothing but sexists and bigots..."
Please explain how I am a "sexist" or a "bigot."
You throw around unsubstantiated personal attacks frequently, LarryVegas. Don't be a coward, prove your charge.
How is unearthing Sarah's record "sexist?"
How is reminding people of her own words an action of a "bigot?"
You hide behind personal attacks because you can't defend her.
Mr. Edgewise,
If, as you say, Palin increased the per capita public debt load in Wasilla, then you must be appalled by the increase in debt thanks to Obama and his bleeding heart liberal administration.
I trust you will be voting Republican in the next presidential election.
Congratulations and welcome!
edgewise is back calling everyone a liar. edgewise even calls Sarah Palin a liar for publishing a book where the American people can learn about the Liberals dirty tactics during the last campaign.
edgewise feels bad for anyone who would read "that" book and believe it. Kinda sounds like Bill Clinton when he said "that woman."
Hey edgewise... Sarah Palin's book, "Going Rogue" continues to number one (1) on BOTH Amazon and New York Times Bestsellers lists. And there is nothing you or your liberal thugs can do about it but watch the sales number increase.
"If, as you say, Palin increased the per capita public debt load in Wasilla, then you must be appalled by the increase in debt thanks to Obama and his bleeding heart liberal administration."
Ken: you're missing the point. The Palin Fan Club believes in their heart of hearts that Palin is a fiscal hawk that wants to cut taxes and spending.
In reality, she raised the sales taxes to pay for a whopper of a mismanaged skating rink and left the town in an extreme amount of debt.
If you criticize Obama's fiscal plan, you cannot in good conscience not criticize Palin's history of fiscal policy.
The Palin Fan Club ignores these facts because they aren't congruent to their image of her as the second coming of Ronald Reagan. (Which also begs if anyone in their right mind would admire Reagan's fiscal policy, but that's a whole 'nother story.)
Instead of waking up to acknowledge her fiscal history, they cite her book sales. It's an impotent and irrelevant talking point.
If anything, they should really abandon their defense of her, as the more they talk, the more is revealed about her history and poor management.
Oh, boo hoo hoo... edgewise wants all of us to abandon our defense of Sarah Palin...
I guess he and his liberal ilk want free range to demean and lie about Sarah Palin and anyone else as they feel fit without any interference from the rest of us.
Too bad, so sad, that is not going to happen today nor in my lifetime.
So edgewise, cry yourself some tears and crawl back into that scurvy little hole that you crawled out of.
gregory: you must get paid by the word. I am impresssed with the way you can keep multiple balls in the air. You should consider coming over to our side.
LarryVegas, do you support Palin's history of raising taxes and creating massive debt?
And, could you give me a single example of a lie I've written about Palin?
edgewise and his dishonest liberal friends who post using the name of ksand99 (several post under the same name) can go fish somewhere else for someone to bite. Not me... So go bother someone else. GET!!!
I understand, you can't substantiate your claims that I'm dishonest, or a liar. I'd appreciate an apology.
So do you support Palin's history of raising taxes and creating massive debt, or not?
LarryVegas' lies are well documented on this page. Thanks, Larry!
I, too, would love just a single example of a lie I wrote about Palin. Can you give me one, Larry? Just one is all I'm asking for. A little evidence for your claims would go a long way toward reestablishing your decimated credbility.
Give me an example of my dishonesty about Palin.
Pop Quiz! Which learned poster said "a womans place is in the mall"?
If ksand99 is multiple people posting under a single account, I'm sure the Sun's webmaster would delete the account.
Larry, you really shouldn't slander people that way.
My name is Kevin Sandoval. I've written that, what? A hundred times now? I have no problem revealing my name to destroy the slanderous LarryVegas.
I would also like an apology from Larry for slandering me.
Kevin Sandoval: what is your relationship to the next Governor of Nevada, Brian Sandoval?
Kevin: the written form of defamation is libel, Senor. Please ammend your complaint.
Mike: I appreciate the correction. I'm not a lawyer, I write code for a living. I just want Larry to stop with the personal attacks and reply to the arguments.
And I have no relation to Brian Sandoval. I do appreciate that he has support within the republican party, though... and that the party which gave us Governor Gibbons is now so ashamed they're going to field a primary challenger who will hopefully beat him and correct their mistake.
That being said, I have no plans to vote for my namesake. I think Rory will make a much better governor than the guy who quit his job at the bench.
You two turkeys want an apology? Just a minute and I will bend over for you two creeps...
There, did you two idiots have time to kiss my donkey?
Meanwhile back at the ranch, our two (or more)liberal elitists are running around in circles trying to cause more distraction from the issues.
I think these two turkeys must have read Palin's book because this is what the news media was doing to Governor Palin while she was in office. Divide and distract... But I am not in office so it won't work on me...
I'm glad Larry wants to spread the falsehood that multiple people post under my name.
He's intimidated by people who know facts.
"In a questionnaire published in the October 22, 2006, Anchorage Daily News, then-gubernatorial candidate Palin answered the question, "Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?" by writing: "Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now -- while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist." In an October 5, 2006, article, the Anchorage Daily News noted that Palin had addressed the issue at a gubernatorial forum hosted by Alaska Conservation Voters the previous day, and quoted Palin as saying, "I do support the infrastructure projects that are on tap here in the state of Alaska that our congressional delegations worked hard for." The News added that Palin "said the projects link communities and create jobs."
"In assessing Palin's claim that "I told Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that bridge to nowhere," PolitiFact.com reported: "By the time Palin pulled the plug on the Gravina bridge project in September 2007, much of the federal funding for the bridge had already been diverted to other transportation projects." It further stated that "[w]hen Palin says 'I told Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that bridge to nowhere,' it implies Congress said, 'Here's a check for that bridge' and she responded, 'No thanks, that's wasteful spending; here's your money back.' That's not what happened. Fact is, Alaska took the bridge money, and then just spent it on other projects. Palin did make the final call to kill plans for the bridge, but by the time she did it was no longer a politically viable project."
Speaking of Palin's book: did you know Larry lied about Palin's book sales? He claimed 2 million books were sold when her publisher said it was only 1 million.
When will Larry stop lying?
Did you hear that as part of Sarah Palin's nationwide tour, Palin will sign 1,000 copies from noon to 3 p.m. Dec. 9 at Salt Lake City's Costco warehouse store, 1818 S. 300 West.
More books sold and more people will understand the sleazy ways of the Liberals...
So do you support Palin's history of raising taxes and creating massive debt, or not, Larry?
Do you think those are the actions of a conservative?
Remember when Sarah sat back and let John McCain lie about the plane she "sold at a profit on eBay?"
She didn't sell it on eBay, and she took a massive loss on it.
Maybe Larry's lies were learned from reading her book? Is that why Larry's lying?
It must be learned behavior from Sarah Palin.
Sarah Palin's Going Rogue has done amazingly well, according to a HarperCollins spokeswoman. Just 2 weeks after it hit bookstores, online book shops, the controversial former VP candidate sold 1 million copies of her book. In fact, the print run has also been increased from an additional 2.5 million copies to 2.8 million copies to meet the demand, said HarperCollins. Crazy!
2.8 million copies in print and maybe more coming. The Liberal control over the Federal Government will be coming to an end soon...
Larry, you said she sold 2 million copies. Now we're back to 1 million.
It's about time you start admitting your numerous errors.
I think Obama has sold more book than Palin - and he even wrote them, too!
Larry! You finally realize you were lying about her book sales! Good boy!
Sarah Palin may or may not be a viable 2012 presidential candidate, but the bowling industry is probably hoping she is at least a better bowler than President Obama.
Palin will be giving the keynote address at the International Bowl Expo 2010 in June of next year, the Bowling Proprietors' Association of America announced today.
Another great way to get to meet real Americans...
Unfortunately, most "real Americans" aren't "bowled over" by Sarah Palin.
Poll after poll shows most real Americans look at her unfavorably.
Can she overcome such a negative image before 2012? She probably doesn't have a chance to "spare."
New Yorker
"The last time the publication of a political memoir aroused as much interest as Sarah Palin's "Going Rogue: An American Life" (Harper; $28.99) was probably in 1995, when Colin Powell's autobiography, "My American Journey," came out. Like Palin's bus tour through two dozen states (from Pennsylvania to New Mexico), Powell's twenty-three-city campaign began amid speculation, teasingly encouraged by Powell himself, that it might be a reconnaissance mission for a Presidential run, though of a more Olympian sort. "His book tour has the air of a political campaign," the Times reported. "Not the flesh-pressing campaign of a hungry primary candidate, but rather the roped-off, walkie-talkie-directed campaign of a sitting President."
More bad news for the Liberal elitists...
Hey Larry,
So do you support Palin's history of raising taxes and creating massive debt, or not, Larry?
Do you really think those are the actions of a conservative?
Washington (CNN) - Republican voters are split on whether their party's leadership is taking the GOP in the right direction, according to a new national poll. The Washington Post survey released Monday also indicates that Republicans say that Sarah Palin, more than any other leader, best reflects the core values of the party.
This must be really bad news for Liberals...
Yeah, Colin Powell deserted the McCain campaign once Sarah Palin was named to the ticket. He obviously had the right idea.
I see Palin's #1 fan is now just pasting her latest press releases. I guess he doesn't want to discuss all the problems she has with honesty.
"Barbara Walters has made a franchise out of her annual "most fascinating people" special. Often times, her special features people we've already seen way too much of this year.
Her picks this year include Adam Lambert of "American Idol" fame, SARAH PALIN, Kate Gosselin of "Jon & Kate," Fox News' Glenn Beck, Lady Gaga, NFL star Brett Favre, and Atlanta's own Tyler Perry.
Opps... More bad news for the Palin haters...
In fact, Powell said that Palin polarized the Republican party, leading to its loss in 2008. He places a lot of the blame on her shoulders.
"Often times, her special features people we've already seen way too much of this year."
Larry, do you take a minute to proofread this stuff before posting? Are you saying that Sarah Palin is overexposed?
Didn't Colin Powell endorse Obama? Yup!
And Larry faps over book sales again. 1 in 300, Larry!
Well boys, and I do mean boys, it has been enjoyable and I really appreciate your company, but I am off to the races...
See you two sweethearts tomorrow...
Here, I will bend over again so you two boys can kiss me goodbye...
So, about that apology, Larry.
I'll be waiting.
Cheque please! This has turned into one big sausage fest courtesy of LarryVegas and his homo-erotic bending over gestures. And nary a comment legitimately answered.
God Bless Colin Powell! Now there's a Republican I could stand behind. Good night everybody!
This elitist wench would rather watch football with my hubs that have to take anymore virtual abuse from the likes of LarryVegas and crew. At this point T.O seems like less of a dick than some of you guys. And that's saying a lot.
Hey Lar...
Would you consider this whole virtual-spanking you've taken an affront to your "independent" political viewpoint?
Larry: John Wayne always said that apologizing was a sign of weakness. I stand by the Duke. Don't accept any apolgies from Edgy, Karina, or Gregory and his many aliases. And for heaven's sake, don't shoot until you see the whites of their eyes!
And things just getting stranger... I wonder if LarryVegas will still be her #1 fan after this latest revelation:
Sarah Palin is not only queen of the tea bag party, she is kowtowing to the BIRTHERS now!
Not satisfied with her status among the fringe of the right-wing, Sarah Palin announced that she's still questioning Obama's birth certificate because some people aren't convinced.
Like Glenn Beck, she said she still has "questions." She won't come out and make a definitive statement. Guess she's too busy signing books to make a decision!
Is there any crazy conspiracy she won't disavow?
Is LarryVegas a birther, too?
Larry, what do you say?
With so much talk about Palin's book sales, let's look in on one buyer right now:
http://cmsimg.news-leader.com/apps/pbcsi...
Poor gent fell asleep just looking at the cover!
Wait, did LarryVegas say something about "bigot" earlier?
"For Palin's appearance at the Mall of America next week we received a list of seven media guidelines, including one stating there can be no foreign press -- only English-speaking press and another that said media must address Palin as "Governor."
No foreign press -- only English-speaking press? You betcha! Can't wait for Larry to declare Palin a bigot.
And why would she demand to be called "Governor" when she quit that job?
"A spokesman for the Mall of America declined to comment in an interview but issued a written statement apologizing to Palin, calling it "an internal miscommunication.""
You call it internal miscommunication, Larry calls it bigotry. Apples to apricots!
Hey look, my little weasel friends are back. Well, maybe they are more like hyenas. They have to gang up and multi post in an attempt to divide and distract. But all they are really only distractions in the big picture. Sarah is doing fine regardless how hard these cowards try to bend the truth into downright lies.
And I see they have posted a bunch of hateful half truths about Sarah Palin... I guess little people do little things.
Come on boys, and I do mean boys.
A line 1,000 deep formed at Sarah Palin's first book-tour stop last month in Grand Rapids, Mich. Fans toting camping gear arrived more than a day early in rural Washington state. And in suburban Indianapolis, crowds were so large that organizers gave out stickers instead of autographs when Palin's hand cramped.
A similar throng is expected to gather today in Plano when the former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate stops at Legacy Books to promote her new tome, Going Rogue: An American Life. She has sold 1 million copies in the two weeks since the memoir's publication.
Sarah Palin is selling more books and gaining in popularity and the Liberals go berserk.
They are so afraid of this woman...
I hate to see Karina leave. I was just getting to like her style.
I know you boys owe me and apology, but you boys don't have to give me an apology. It wouldn't mean much coming from a couple of liberal clowns.
Hey ksand99, be sure to call you friend over to help you post.
Well, I guess the "boys" are not going to come out and play and it looks like 10:00 is just around the corner so I will give it up for this evening and catch the little weasels in the morning.
Good night all...
"organizers gave out stickers instead of autographs when Palin's hand cramped."
Always playing the victim. Sarah's clever, she really knows how to exploit the press for attention.
Unfortunately, she's so truth-impaired, her #1 fan can't even bear to defend her anymore. He's slumped in a corner, endlessly repeating a single talking point to the mountain of evidence he can't refute.
Palin is fiscally irresponsible.
Larry's response: "She's sold books."
Palin is ethically-challenged.
Larry's response: "You're a bigot!"
Palin plunged Wasilla into debt.
Larry's response: "Palin is well loved!"
Palin's poll numbers are in the toilet.
Larry's response: "26 million people voted for her in an online poll!"
26 million people did not vote for her in an online poll.
Larry's response: "You're a mean liberal!"
Sarah lied about the Bridge to Nowhere.
Larry's response: "You're a really mean liberal!"
Sarah lied about turning down earmarks.
Larry's response: "I can't believe how mean you are!"
Sarah lied about selling a plane on eBay.
Larry's response: "Libruls r sexist!"
Sarah contradicted herself about consulting her family before accepting the V.P spot.
Larry's response: "Uh, that wasn't in her book."
It seems Larry's just pulling talking points from this book he's claimed to read.
He can't refute facts.
What was that about Palin and the Alaska National Guard?
"On August 31, an online USA Today item reported that "[i]t was hard to keep track of how many Republicans on Sunday morning referred to Gov. Sarah Palin as 'commander in chief' of the Alaska National Guard." Yet, while this assertion often went unchallenged, Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, the adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard claimed that Palin plays no role in directing the guard's national defense activities. According to an August 31 AP article, Campbell "considers Palin 'extremely responsive and smart' and says she is in charge when it comes to in-state services, such as emergencies and natural disasters where the National Guard is the first responder. But, in an interview with The Associated Press on Sunday, he said he and Palin play no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.""
When asked by Katie Couric about which newspapers or magazines she reads, which ones did Sarah Palin name?
She couldn't name one... not a single newspaper, magazine or source of news.
Light Bulb Biden .....he is not that smarter than a light bulb.
Joe the Light Bulb Biden is hilarous.
He claimed to graduate in the top half of his law class....he graduate 76th of 85 students.
He said that we should focus on a 3 letter word...Jobs, Jobs, Jobs ....that is a 4 letter word.
He personally gave Israel a green light to attack Iran.
He called Russia a financially backward country right before the State department was about to launch a series of high level talks with them.
He kept talking about Obama increasing the number of battalions when it should have been brigades.
He was caught in college stealing term papers for his own use.
He was caught on more than on occassion on giving speechs the were directly lifted from other people's speeches.
He use to claim that his wife was killed by a drunk driver even though the cops say the other driver had nothing to drink and it was his wife the ran a stop sign and pull in front of the other driver in an intersection.
He once proposed giving Iran $500 million just to make them be more friendly with us.
He once proposed breaking Iraq into tiny little countries.
He asked a man in a wheelchair to stand up.
Introducing Obama for the first time and called him "Barack America".
He said that after the stock market crash in 1929 that FDR went on TV to speak to the country. FDR was not president in 1929 and only a handful of people had TV's.
He once ask his staff in front of national TV in front of millions for that number for the Recovery gov website. Either he is clueless about the interenet or he actually wanted tell millions to go to like 99.232.383.22 IP address.
Every once in a while he gets things right. He said that the Obama adminstration was clueless about the economy.
Here are videos of Biden drunk....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBNeNHHX...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkC...
Thank God, Obama rejected the little idiot's idea about Afghanistan.
You noticed lately that Obama keeps Joe locked up in a closet somewhere. Not even a one little peep from Joe lately.
Biden is Obama's court jester.
Keep up the good work, Light Blub Joe.
I pray everynight that Obama stays healthy and well until the end of his term.
ksand, darn it, it's 1am and I just woke the wife up with my laughter at your evisceration of poor Lar. She ain't happy!!! Larry, isn't YOUR wife getting just a little cranky with your fixation on you-know-who?
Ok, that's enough for me. "rock" has arrived with some goofy diatribe about Uncle Joe. I think this is what Larry means by
"DISTRACT & DEVIDE." I am hopeful that when Larry comes out of his nightly self-induced coma, he will agree with me.
Sounds like the lefty gooberheads are ashamed of Light Bulb Joe.
I would be.
Yup, just more of the typical republican tactics of "DISTRACT AND DIVIDE" by our resident Obama/Biden hater jfNance32, err, SgtRock, err, James F Nance Jr.
But Biden does make me laugh. He's good for a chuckle or two.
"You noticed lately that Obama keeps Joe locked up in a closet somewhere. Not even a one little peep from Joe lately."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/01...
Biden gave interviews to Good Morning America, the Today Show and the Early Show on Wednesday.
Maybe SgtNance is proclaiming a new prong to the republican tactic: DISHONESTY!
I am glad that they let Biden out of the closet every once in a while.
Like, you said.....we all need a good laugh here or there.
I guess Biden will start by saying that Obama's Afghanistan plan is so good is because Obama rejected the main part of Light Bulb Joe's idea about Afghanistan.
Obama must be teaching his court jester a lesson.
"You noticed lately that Obama keeps Joe locked up in a closet somewhere. Not even a one little peep from Joe lately."
He gave interviews to the three most-popular morning shows in the nation yesterday. Millions of people watched his interviews, if the viewing ratings are to be believed.
Nothing from Joe lately? Not even remotely true.
More DISHONESTY from the republican party.
I see ksand99 and his co-poster were up early this morning getting their rocks off by demeaning Sarah Palin...
They are the lowest of the low, but what do you expect out of Liberals who think they are better then the rest of us???
(Newser) -- Just 5 days into her book tour, first-time author Sarah Palin is attracting crowds so huge and adoring that they're feeding speculation about her political future.
Sarah Palin's book "Going Rouge" is still number one (1) on Amazon and number (1) on the New York Times Best Sellers.
(AP) -- Going Rogue has gone platinum. A HarperCollins spokeswoman said today that just two weeks after publication, Sarah Palin's memoir has sold 1 million copies. The print run for Going Rogue has been increased again, to 2.8 million copies. The original printing was 1.5 million, then moved up to 2.5 million.
Speaking to the conservative talker Rusty Humphries today, Sarah Palin left the door open to speculation about President Obama's birth certificate.
"Would you make the birth certificate an issue if you ran?" she was asked. "I think the public rightfully is still making it an issue. I don't have a problem with that. I don't know if I would have to bother to make it an issue, because I think that members of the electorate still want answers," she replied.
"Do you think it's a fair question to be looking at?" Humphries persisted.
"I think it's a fair question, just like I think past association and past voting records -- all of that is fair game," Palin said. "The McCain-Palin campaign didn't do a good enough job in that area."
Sarah Palin: Stupid Conspiracies
Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I've pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask... which they have repeatedly. But at no point -- not during the campaign, and not during recent interviews -- have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States.
Two New Facebook Notes From Governor Palin
The president's decision to attend the international climate conference in Copenhagen needs to be reconsidered in light of the unfolding Climategate scandal. The leaked e-mails involved in Climategate expose the unscientific behavior of leading climate scientists who deliberately destroyed records to block information requests, manipulated data to "hide the decline" in global temperatures, and conspired to silence the critics of man-made global warming. I support Senator James Inhofe's call for a full investigation into this scandal. Because it involves many of the same personalities and entities behind the Copenhagen conference, Climategate calls into question many of the proposals being pushed there, including anything that would lead to a cap and tax plan.
Policy should be based on sound science, not snake oil. I took a stand against such snake oil science when I sued the federal government over its decision to list the polar bear as an endangered species despite the fact that the polar bear population has increased. I've never denied the reality of climate change; in fact, I was the first governor to create a subcabinet position to deal specifically with the issue. I saw the impact of changing weather patterns firsthand while serving as governor of our only Arctic state. But while we recognize the effects of changing water levels, erosion patterns, and glacial ice melt, we cannot primarily blame man's activities for the earth's cyclical weather changes. The drastic economic measures being pushed by dogmatic environmentalists won't change the weather, but will dramatically change our economy for the worse.
Policy decisions require real science and real solutions, not junk science and doomsday scare tactics pushed by an environmental priesthood that capitalizes on the public's worry and makes them feel that owning an SUV is a "sin" against the planet. In his inaugural address, President Obama declared his intention to "restore science to its rightful place." Boycotting Copenhagen while this scandal is thoroughly investigated would send a strong message that the United States government will not be a party to fraudulent scientific practices. Saying no to Copenhagen and cap and tax are first steps in "restoring science to its rightful place."
When the Governor announced her decision to resign on July 3, she pointed out the then 15 frivolous ethics complaints that had been filed against her and dismissed. It was intended to explain, in part, her decision to resign as well to educate the public about the abuse of the Alaska Ethics Act through a repetitive stream of baseless partisan accusations, each one seemingly more pointless and frivolous than the next. The Governor's message was not intended as an invitation to run off half-cocked and file more baseless ethics complaints, but not everyone understood that message--or wanted to understand. In August 2009, largely in response to the abuse of Alaska's Ethics Act by partisan shills and low level lackeys, the Attorney General issued an opinion recommending changes to the Ethics Act "to prevent another potential harm--abuse of the process. Some Alaskans have argued that the Ethics Act has been used inappropriately in some circumstances to politically damage the subject of the complaint." (August 5, 2009 Attorney General Opinion). That argument was asserted by the Anchorage Daily News. "Our View: Abuse of Ethics Complaints Turns Good Law Into Bad Politics," Anchorage Daily News, May 3, 2009. The Attorney General further recommended "another safeguard to discourage habitual complaint filers who use the Ethics Act process to harass executive branch employees. Statutory amendments could provide authority to the personnel board to decline to process further complaints filed by a person who has abused the Act in this way." Though it is encouraging to see an impartial evaluation of the problem, it is ultimately up to the Legislature to implement any of these recommended changes. Governor Palin has been subjected to 24 ethics complaints, several lawsuits, and dozens and dozens of public information act requests, few of which raised even a scintilla of a good faith issue, and most of which were simply done to garner a headline or promote opposition research for political gain.
Recently we learned that two more ethics complaints against Governor Palin have been dismissed--complaints that were filed after the Governor announced her plans to step down. One complaint asserted that it was unethical for the state to follow its own per diem regulations and pay per diem to the Governor as set forth by law. Of course, the complainant conveniently overlooked that the Governor and her family received less per diem than they were entitled to under State law--why let such details stand in the way of an ethics complaint? The other complaint that was dismissed asserted that the Governor, through me, supposedly violated the constitution because we informed a person who falsely implied that the Governor was "under investigation" by the FBI, that such statements are defamatory. It is notable to watch those who agitate on all things Palin--locally and even across the Atlantic--as they Huff and puff falsehoods about Sarah Palin under the guise of free speech, which brings us to a teachable moment. All too often we hear about constitutional rights--as we should--but many forget about constitutional responsibilities. As citizens we have both rights and responsibilities. Though we have the right to exercise free speech, we have the responsibility to exercise that right without defaming people. I like the way our Alaska Constitution describes it: "Every person may freely speak, write, and publish on all subjects, being responsible for the abuse of that right." Ak. Const. Art. I, Sec. 5. The irony of filing an ethics complaint because of a reminder about the constitutional parameters of free speech is no doubt lost on those consumed by irrationality when it comes to Sarah Palin; but one does not need an ethics law to know that positive political discourse depends on a robust debate about facts and the policy implications stemming from such facts. The nation is not helped by calumnious ad hominem attacks against Sarah Palin, matrilineal conspiracy theories and aberrant notions of ethics.
Sarah Palin's book "Going Rouge" is still number one (1) on Amazon and number (1) on the New York Times Best Sellers.
Brigadier General Anthony J. Tata: 'Going Rogue' Reveals Palin's Ready to Lead
Mark Twain's famous quote, "Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel," resonates loudly in my mind as I finish Sarah Palin's captivating story, Going Rogue.
But Palin ain't buying it by the barrel, she's got a whole pipeline of pure grade indigo flowing from the North Slope as she pumps up the volume on her NY Times #1 bestselling memoir.
When I got about halfway through the book I set it down, stepped outside of my Washington, DC townhouse and went for a run around the U.S. Capitol. Listening to the Outlaws, Marshall Tucker Band, and Lil Bow Wow (my daughter slipped that one in there) on my iPod, the recurrent thought in my mind was that this woman is far more qualified to be president of the United States than the current occupant of the White House.
When I completed the journey that is Going Rogue, I wrote down five things:
--She is a positive role model for all Americans
--She is an executive, takes on hard problems and makes tough decisions
--She has tremendous energy, balance and intellect
--America shafted itself in this last election
--Alaska is lucky to have her
Oh, and a sixth, Sarah Palin could be the next president of the United States.
Her book washes away all doubts that any reader might have had about her readiness to be president. She comes across as exceptionally bright, dedicated, and passionate about public service. Her moral compass is strong, pointing true North in this case. And she has a wicked sense of humor.
Steve Flesher: Sarah Palin's Reagan Qualities
By Doug Brady
While Sarah Palin is certainly making waves with her own best-selling book "Going Rogue," the former governor and vice presidential candidate is also in the spotlight with a cameo appearance as a heroine in the recently released children's book:
To go along with Sarah Palin' new book, the new 2010 Sarah Palin calendar is now on sale at Amazon.
The calendar makes the perfect gift for the Sarah Palin hater in your life. Features 12 high-resolution photos of our favorite conservative woman that is sure to drive the Liberals completely nuts...
Hey did I mention:
Sarah Palin's book "Going Rouge" is still number one (1) on Amazon and number (1) on the New York Times Best Sellers.
Palin says she's a change from the scandal-plagued republicans, but she's more of the same. Palin built her reputation on criticizing state Republicans for ethics questions, but Palin has questions of her own, as she used city resources when she campaigned for Lt. Governor; Palin chaired the campaign of another candidate in a race dominated by resource issues when she was on the oil and gas commission and said that she saw no conflict of interest. For years, Palin supported Murkowski, campaigning for him across the state, and he supported her campaigns as well.
Palin touts fiscal conservatism, but she increased spending tremendously and
supported tax increases. Palin constantly reminds us that she is a fiscal conservative. But during her time as mayor, she increased the city's budget at a rate far outpacing the city's growth with spending on large projects. She supported sales tax increases and left the city with thousands in per-capita debt, where none had existed when she came in. Palin brags about eliminating the personal property tax, but with the same legislation, the city increased motor vehicle fees that almost matched the lost income of the personal property taxes.
Wasilla debt service increased 69% under Palin. In fiscal 2003 -- the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget -- the total government debt service was $658,662. In fiscal 1996 -- the year before Palin took control of the budget -- the debt service was $390,385. The increase was 69 percent. (Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 1)
70 percent of Americans think Palin's not qualified to be President.
"Fewer than three in 10 Americans think Sarah Palin's qualified to be president, according to a new national poll - the least of any of the five potential candidates included in the survey."
"But another woman tops that list in the CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Monday: two-thirds of the public thinks that Secretary of State HIllary Clinton's qualified for the Oval Office. That's more than Vice President Joe Biden, who's currently next in line for the presidency."
"According to the poll, 28 percent of Americans say Palin is qualified to run the White House, with seven in 10 saying the former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee is not qualified."
44% of Republicans surveyed in the poll said Palin is not qualified to be President.
LarryVegas: You're going to be one disappointed puppy when you realize that your sweetheart Sarah takes the million$ she sucks out of her witless followers and lives the good live on your dime while staying out of politics. I just hope she keeps yapping through 2012 in order to insure Obama's reelection.
Her numbers look big to you because you have a small mind.
Part II - Going Rouge. Includes crayons. Go for it Larry.
Hey Wayne...
I think that it would be a good option for her not to run for any political office.
Shes doing just great right now by driving all of the hate filled Liberals completely berserk.
Who knows, maybe she will get a big talk show on NBC... Think about it, if you can put aside your hate...
Part II- If "Going Rouge" included crayons, maybe Liberals would be able to relate and understand it...
Palin left behind almost $19 million in long-term debt, compared to none before she was
Mayor. In fiscal 2003 -- the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget -- the bonded long-term debt was $18,635,000. In fiscal 1996 -- the year before Palin took control of the budget -- there was no general obligation debt. (Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 10)
Long-term debt was $3000 per capita when Palin left, compared to none before she was Mayor. In fiscal 2003 -- the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget -- the bonded long-term debt per capita was $2,938. In fiscal 1996 -- the year before Palin took control of the budget -- there was no general obligation debt. (Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 10)
Hey did I mention:
Sarah Palin's book "Going Rouge" is still number one (1) on Amazon and number (1) on the New York Times Best Sellers.
Just two weeks after publication, Sarah Palin's memoir has sold over 1 million copies. The print run for Going Rogue has been increased again to 2.8 million copies. The original printing was 1.5 million, then moved up to 2.5 million.
Palin signed an ordinance to issue $15 million in general obligation bonds and increase the sales tax from 2 to 2.5%. In 2001, Palin signed an ordinance authorizing the city to issue general obligation bonds in the principal amount of $14,700,000 to finance the acquisition and construction of park and recreation capital improvements. The ordinance also increased the sales tax from 2 to 2.5 percent and put the issue on the ballot. After it was adopted by voters, Palin signed an ordinance issuing the bonds. In 2002, Palin signed an ordinance putting the higher sales tax into effect. (Ordinance 01-55 (am), 12/10/2001; Ordinance 02-14 (sub), 4/8/2002; Ordinance 02-49, 8/12/2002)
Palin faces too much of an uphill battle for 2012. If, even after a Presidential election, 44% of Republicans still thinks she's not ready to be President, what does that say about her chances in a general election?
I think it says that she's doomed. Her only hope is to run to the far-right to get the support of the fringe and of the evangelical Republicans. Judging from the frantic, unhinged rhetoric she spouted during the 2008 election, there's no reason to think she would fare any better in a national primary.
Government administrative spending increased 48% under Palin. In fiscal 2003 -- the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget -- the expenditures of the general government of Wasilla were $1,899,275. In fiscal 1996 -- the year before Palin took control of the budget -- the expenditures were $1,286,594. The increase was 48 percent. "General government expenditures" covers administration, city council, administrative and management systems. [Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 1]
Geez, when you look at Palin's record, she seems to love to tax and spend.
She's fiscally liberal.
Did anyone out there hear anything? No? I thought I heard some noise that sounded like a whine from some right wing extremists...
Friday, December 4, 2009
Gov. Palin in Oklahoma
By C. Brooks Kurtz
I met Gov. Sarah Palin and her father tonight, and it was one of the most memorable experiences of my life.
As a rule, I don't go out of my way to meet public figures I admire -- in Gov. Palin's case, I made a happy exception. As I've written before, Gov. Palin is the first political figure I've "gone all in" for, and from the few minutes I was around her tonight, she did not disappoint.
Briefly: firm handshake, warm smile, looks you in the eye when asking questions and even better looking in person. Sarah Palin is the first human being I've ever stood in line for just to meet, and that the first thing she noticed about me was my "Defender of Capitalism" button certainly didn't hurt my impression of her.
Like most of Oklahoma, winter doesn't usually hit the Norman area until after Christmas. It was fitting that the coldest day I remember in an Oklahoma December also happened to be a day I was standing in a line outside for three-and-a-half hours waiting for a woman from Alaska most people had never heard of 18 months ago. This is no complaint -- many people, from beginning to end, spent nearly 30 hours waiting in line, first for their bracelet, then for their signed book. The temperature was in the 30s, but it was overcast and windy, meaning it was miserable.
Yeah yeah, I know, places like Michigan are much, much colder than Oklahoma, but that's sort of the point -- we're not used to this kind of cold this time of year, so the fact that there were more than a thousand people there to greet and hopefully meet Gov. Palin speaks volumes regarding her popularity in America's reddest state -- I've said it before and I'll say it again: She could move to Oklahoma and win our governorship in a landslide.
It was cold and I wasn't properly dressed for the kind of cold we had, so I spent a few hours in the Hasting's Hardback Cafe, using the free WiFi and drinking iced coffee. As I'm wont to do, I got paranoid that something would happen, so I got in line at four -- there were probably 250-300 people in front of me. I came alone, but was in line for all that time with an Army Captain, a woman my age and her teenage daughter, a woman in her forties, a sixty-ish Hispanic couple and a group of sixty-ish women who happened to be from the same town as me. The bracelet line snaked through the outdoor shopping center for about 200 yards -- they said there were 500 bracelets, but it seemed like more.
Much of the parking lot was cleared, and there was room for the overflow crowd -- I'm bad at guestimating, but I would say there were another 800 to 1,000 people out there (please correct me in the comments if I'm way off) in the freezing cold just wanting a glimpse of Gov. Palin. Two news choppers hovered in the sky, and four or five satellite trucks were in the lot. Print and broadcast reporters were interviewing all sorts of people, and this being Oklahoma, they were probably just as Conservative as the people in line, so there were no media meltdowns.
For context: Oklahoma Conservatism is bred through church -- Okies are primarily Southern Baptist or non-denominational evangelicals, and one of the primary reasons Gov. Palin resonates here is because of her religious faith and the fact that she's not embarrassed by it. Those who've read her book will quickly understand why she is so popular in a place like Oklahoma. Add in the Lifetime NRA Member status and a son serving in the military, and Sarah Palin, Alaskan as they come, fits in easily in Oklahoma. This is a good thing.
Once the bus showed up, things started moving. I have flat feet, the bladder of a five-year-old and was freezing cold, so this was a welcome sign. The bus showed up a few minutes early and people were emerging from the Norman Hasting's with signed copies before 7 p.m., which was another welcome sign. Many people thought she would give a speech (no idea where that rumor came from) but I was glad she didn't because physically, I was in misery.
I finally got into the store by 7:30 and it went quickly from there. A Hasting's docent stood in line for me while I sprinted to the bathroom, and then as we got closer, we were allowed to "check our bags." From there, a few people at a time were led to where she was signing and the Army Captain, the woman in her forties and I were the last ones let through because Gov. Palin needed a break. This worked perfectly for us, as we got to loiter in the signing area for five minutes or so.
Gov. Palin commented on my button, I told her I write for C4P, she said she loves the site and asked my name again and we talked about C4P for a moment. While doing this, she's signing book after book while asking me questions about my writing and I blithered like an idiot. I told her "thank you" and then moved aside, where I saw her father. I immediately went to him, reached out my hand and introduced myself, too loudly saying "Mr. Heath, it's an honor to meet you!" or something to that effect. I told him I write for C4P and he got a huge smile on his face (he said he loves the site), so then I asked him about the awesome bus, and we talked about that for a couple minutes while Gov. Palin took her break, which literally was her taking a few drinks from a soda and not having to sign books.
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I'm a supreme introvert, so I didn't meet a lot of people while there, but I did meet Wanda Martin who is big in "Oklahomans for Sarah," itself part of Team Sarah. She gave me her card, which I was happy to see included the C4P site address -- Martin, like me, like so many other Oklahomans, probably sees Gov. Palin as a lot like us. When I was talking to her, she mentioned the word "values" several times, and I think something that is overlooked regarding Gov. Palin's allure in places like Oklahoma is that her values are instantly recognizable because they are our own. I also talked to the people in the front of the line -- they were from Norman and showed up at 3:30 p.m. on Wednesday, stayed the night, got their bracelet, got back in line all to get a moment with the remarkable Gov. Palin. I took several minutes of Flip footage, but none of it was usable because I'm a terrible photographer.
While I was standing in line, freezing my arse off, chit-chatting with people I didn't know and will never see again, I was reminded of something a fellow C4Per mentioned, and the thought popped into my head: forget CPAC and WCPAC -- it's time for C4P-PAC. Nothing that happened at Gov. Palin's signing in Norman was unusual -- she gets this reception at every stop she makes. That's sort of the point -- while other Conservative politicians fail us repeatedly, Gov. Palin inspires people of all walks to do things like stand out in the blistering cold just to get a moment with her, just to shake her hand, just to buy her book, just to say thank you. I'm one of those people -- I don't agree with her every decision, but I don't have to. Gov. Palin has not inspired a movement that walks in lock-step chanting ethereal, meaningless mantras, she has united a vast swath of people who recognize that we are losing something irreplaceable.
With that I close -- what a wonderful evening focused on such a stellar woman.
Total government expenditures increased 63% under Palin. In fiscal 2003 -- the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget -- the total government expenditures of Wasilla, excluding capital outlays, were $7,046,325. In fiscal 1996 -- the year before Palin took control of the budget -- the expenditures were $4,317,947. The increase was 63 percent. [Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 1]
Spending on salaries increased 67% under Palin. In fiscal 2003 -- the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget -- the total spending on salaries and benefits was $549,392. In fiscal 1996 -- the year before Palin took control of the budget -- salaries and benefits came to $328,650. The increase was 67 percent. [Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Exhibit D- 1; Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 1996 page 16]
Office furniture and equipment increased 117% under Palin. In fiscal 2003 -- the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget -- Wasilla owned $741,589 in office furniture and equipment. In fiscal 1996 -- the year before Palin took control of the budget -- the city owned $342,449. The increase was 117 percent.
[Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, page 19; Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 1996 page 29]
More spin from the mad hatter brigade of the liberal extremists...
Ha, ha... I like it....
Since you boys brought this up...
In Sarah Palin's Facebook statement yesterday, Gov. Palin made it clear that while she doesn't deny anyone's right to ask about Barack Obama's birth certificate, she herself has no desire to do so:
At no point -- not during the campaign, and not during recent interviews -- have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States.
Predictably, Governor Palin's haters like the liberal extremists who post here continue to intentionally distort her words in order to harm her politically.
Yup, Palin's poor communication skills leave her in a bind, again!
If I were her, I would clearly state that the Birthers are conspiracy theorists. But she's not willing to make such a statement, apparently.
Palin Smoked Pot, But Said She Doesn't Support Legalizing It. "Palin doesn't support legalizing marijuana, worrying about the message it would send to her four kids. But when it comes to cracking down on drugs, she says methamphetamines are the greater threat and should have a higher priority. Palin said she has smoked marijuana -- remember, it was legal under state law, she said, even if illegal under U.S. law -- but says she didn't like it and doesn't smoke it now. 'I can't claim a Bill Clinton and say that I never inhaled.'" [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 8/6/06]
Jeez, Lar. Are you serious?
This is like a 8th grade crush, for crying out loud. It does explain some of your recent symptoms, my "independent" friend...you may want to take this little quiz and see if the shoe fits:
http://www.lifescript.com/Quizzes/Relati...
Palin Asked City Librarian About Censoring Books, Insisted It Was "Rhetorical." In 1996, according to the Frontiersman, Wasilla's library director Mary Ellen "Emmons said Palin asked her outright if she could live with censorship of library books." Emmons said, "This is different than a normal book-selection procedure or a book-challenge policy"She was asking me how I would deal with her saying a book can't be in the library." Palin said in response, "Many issues were discussed, both rhetorical and realistic in nature." [Frontiersman, 12/18/96]
I wonder if Palin's book goes into detail about her drug abuse?
She said she smoked pot, and we know how the right loves to talk about how it's a gateway drug!
Hey ksand99 and friends are double posting now.
Looks like you boys are running out of spin... You boys have gotten to repeat your postings so much, I can just about recite them from heart. And look at you. You are now posting your same dribble on two discussion sites.
Too bad, but nothing is too low for you Liberal Extremists...
Palin Plead No Contest to Criminal Negligence Charge of Using a Drift Gillnet Without a Permit, Had Charge of Fishing Without an ID That Was Dismissed. In 1993, Sarah Palin used a drift gillnet to harvest salmon from the Bristol Bay area without an annual permit. Palin plead guilty to the Criminal Negligence charge. Palin also had a case dismissed where she was charged with fishing without a photo ID. The case was filed 6/28/93 and was disposed 8/25/1993. The jurisdiction was the Third Judicial District-Dillingham. [Alaska Criminal History Records, Case # 3DI-93-00249CR0001; Alaska Criminal History Records, Case # 3DI-93-00217CR0001]
Hey boys... Go over to the other discussion about Sarah Palin and read what Palin's attorney has to say...
And Larry, please remember what you told me;
"NAME CALLING IS BENEATH YOU"!
I've been trying to take that to heart, Lar, but you are setting a bad, bad example!
Sometimes when you deal with cheating creeps you have to lower yourself down to their level even if it is sometimes in the gutter where these liberal haters live...
Wasilla's Pension Was Only Funded at 73 Percent When Palin Left, As Opposed to Almost Completely When She Became Mayor. In fiscal 2002, Wasilla funded 73 percent of its defined benefit pension plan obligation and had 52 percent unfunded liability as a percentage of its covered payroll. In fiscal 1995, Wasilla funded 97.5 percent of its obligation and had 4.3 percent unfunded liability as a percentage of payroll. [Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, page 29; Wasilla Comprehensive Annual
Financial Report 1996 page 45]
Palin Was Criticized for Dismantling Recreation Services. "Wasilla's mayor is facing criticism from the city's parks and recreation commission for what the members see as attempts to dismantle recreation services." [Frontiersman, 2/28/97]
Awww, Larry thinks I'm "cheating" by posting facts about Sarah!
Where's the response? It's nothing but silence from Larry!
Palin Presided Over a Wedding at a Walmart. He worked in the pets department. She was a cashier. A romance blossomed. And when it came time to say ''I do,'' they chose -- where else? -- an aisle next to menswear. Sandwiched between racks of cotton pants and surrounded by ''Back-to-School Specials'' signs, Jake McCowan and Rosalyn Ryan exchanged vows last week at the place where they met, work and fell in love: the Wasilla Wal-Mart. A crowd of 200, including passengers from a tour bus and several dozen curious shoppers, watched the two employees tie the knot in an afternoon ceremony officiated by
Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin. ''It was so sweet,'' said Palin, who fought back tears during the nuptials. "It was so Wasilla." [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 8/28/99]
Ugh... What's that smell?
Oh, it's just the rancid odor of far left extremists going about their dirty work...
Palin Said She Fired Stambaugh In Part Because He Gave Her "A Very Stern Look." In describing why she fired Stambaugh, the Frontiersman wrote, "[Palin] added that when they met in private, Stambaugh tried to intimidate her by giving her short, uncommunicative answers and staring at her 'with a very stern look.'" [Frontiersman, 2/12/97]
Anchorage Daily News: Palin Delivered Non-Answers" On Expanding Health Care Coverage and Walmart. "Asked about expanding health care coverage and about Wal-Mart's corporate conduct, she delivered non-answers with a disarming smile." [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 1/30/06]
Palin Asked Her Department Heads for Good News--Only the Good News. In 1997, Frontiersman columnist Paul Stuart wrote, "A couple of weeks ago, Palin sent a memo to her department heads informing them she wanted weekly reports of the good (that's positive, of course) things going on in their respective departments--and only the good things. Nothing else but the good things." [Frontiersman, 1/22/97]
Hey boys,
How long has it been since I told you that Sarah Palin's book "Going Rouge" is still number one (1) on Amazon and number (1) on the New York Times Best Sellers.
I don't want you boys to forget...
Evergreen Executives Gave Heavily to Fannon's Campaign, Who Said He Welcomed their Drilling; Palin Was Campaign Chair, Despite the Fact She Would Be Regulating Their Operations. "After its success in getting the state Legislature to reduce governmental oversight of its operations, Evergreen Resources Inc. has turned its attention to the Mat-Su mayor's election, just days away. With all of its 300,000 acres in state shallow-gas leases in a single basket -- the Mat-Su Borough -- company officials have sided with a challenger to borough Mayor Tim Anderson, though they say the company itself is neutral"Anderson's opponent, former Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon, said he welcomes new drilling provided local communities have a say. Fannon's campaign chairwoman is former Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin, who now, as one of three members of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, will be regulating Evergreen's operations. Three Evergreen officials have contributed $1,400 to Fannon's campaign,though he returned twin $500 checks from Evergreen chief executive Mark Sexton and lobbyist Jack Ekstrom because he decided to not take donations from non-Alaskans." [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 10/4/03]
"How long has it been since I told you that Sarah Palin's book "Going Rouge" is still number one (1) on Amazon and number (1) on the New York Times Best Sellers."
Another lie: Sarah Palin's book is spelled "Going Rogue."
Another slap to your credibility, Larry.
Palin Was Criticized for What Some Said Was Misleading Tactics Telling Primary Voters They
Had to Request a Republican Ballot, When They Did Not. "Brown also criticized a sticky-note
campaign ad that Palin put on the front of the Daily News Tuesday, saying it mislead voters. The note included a picture of Palin and said: "Thank you for taking a stand and for your vote today! If you are undeclared or non-partisan, you must ask for the Republican ballot." Some voters thought that meant they had no choice but to choose the Republican ballot when really they could have selected either, said Democrats, who called the ad misleading. Kris Perry, a key volunteer for the Palin campaign, said the ad
was meant to remind Palin supporters to vote and to make sure they asked for the right ballot." [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 8/24/06]
Evergreen Executives Gave Heavily to Fannon's Campaign, Who Said He Welcomed their Drilling; Palin Was Campaign Chair, Despite the Fact She Would Be Regulating Their Operations. "After its success in getting the state Legislature to reduce governmental oversight of its operations, Evergreen Resources Inc. has turned its attention to the Mat-Su mayor's election, just days away. With all of its 300,000 acres in state shallow-gas leases in a single basket -- the Mat-Su Borough -- company officials have sided with a challenger to borough Mayor Tim Anderson, though they say the company itself is neutral"Anderson's opponent, former Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon, said he welcomes new drilling provided local communities have a say. Fannon's campaign chairwoman is former Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin, who now, as one of three members of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, will be regulating Evergreen's operations. Three Evergreen officials have contributed $1,400 to Fannon's campaign,though he returned twin $500 checks from Evergreen chief executive Mark Sexton and lobbyist Jack Ekstrom because he decided to not take donations from non-Alaskans." [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 10/4/03]
Here boys, you liked this one so much you posted it on two sites.
So, let me give you a hand...
How about one more time...
Evergreen Executives Gave Heavily to Fannon's Campaign, Who Said He Welcomed their Drilling; Palin Was Campaign Chair, Despite the Fact She Would Be Regulating Their Operations. "After its success in getting the state Legislature to reduce governmental oversight of its operations, Evergreen Resources Inc. has turned its attention to the Mat-Su mayor's election, just days away. With all of its 300,000 acres in state shallow-gas leases in a single basket -- the Mat-Su Borough -- company officials have sided with a challenger to borough Mayor Tim Anderson, though they say the company itself is neutral"Anderson's opponent, former Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon, said he welcomes new drilling provided local communities have a say. Fannon's campaign chairwoman is former Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin, who now, as one of three members of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, will be regulating Evergreen's operations. Three Evergreen officials have contributed $1,400 to Fannon's campaign,though he returned twin $500 checks from Evergreen chief executive Mark Sexton and lobbyist Jack Ekstrom because he decided to not take donations from non-Alaskans." [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 10/4/03]
Here boys, you liked this one so much you posted it on two sites.
So, let me give you a hand...
Alaska Personnel Board Dismissed Palin's Ethics Complaints Against Renkes. Allegations against Renkes were dropped in exchange for the files collected by Governor Frank Murkowski's
investigator. The settlement also stated that finding Renkes stock holdings would not be enough to conclude a state ethics law violation. [AP, 3/8/05]
Thanks, Larry!
As 'Ethics Supervisor,' Palin Failed to Respond to Warnings and Complaints Regarding GOP Chairman, Randy Ruedrich. For months before she took any action, Palin received many complaints from "staff, a fellow commissioner, and from the public." Palin and Ruedrich were appointed to the Alaskan Oil and Gas Conservation Commission by Governor Murkowski, and she overlooked Ruedrich's ethical shortcomings for months before taking any action. [Anchorage Daily News, 9/22/04]
The PERFECT marriage for selling several million copies of the rouge tome would certainly be to partner with Walmart, as the typical Walmart/Costco shopper is, in fact, quite Palinesque.
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/
My apologies to those who find it necessary to shop Walmart in these trying economic times, even though they typically would not set foot in the joint. That in and of itself could be part of a larger diabolical plot perpetrated on the populous by our previous administration, the one run by Corporate America, under the guise & guidance of the evildoers
Bush/Rove/Cheney.
Palin Was Aware of Ruedrich's Conflict of Interest Long Before She Felt Complelled to
Disclose It. The day Randy Ruedrich was appointed to the Alaskan Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, Alaskan Democrats "charged that Ruedrich should step down as chairman of the Republican Party of Alaska to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest." Minority Leader Ethan Berkowitz said, "I perceive a conflict of interest, 17 other members of the Legislature perceive a conflict of interest, there is clearly a perceived conflict of interest." [AP, 3/4/03]
Palin has said that she'll donate her royalties from the book sales during the Fort Hood stop to the families and the victims of the Nov. 5 mass shooting on post. The man accused of the killings, Army Maj. Nidal Hasan, has been charged with 13 counts of murder and 32 counts of pre-meditated attempted murder.
Critics Complained That Palin's Hiring of Public Works Director Was a Political Reward.
Frontiersman columnist Paul Stuart wrote, "Some local political observers in Wasilla are complaining Mayor Sarah Palin's recent appointment of Cindy Roberts to the $55,000-a-year post of public works director was nothing but a political reward. They maintain Roberts has no engineering training and no
work experience to make up for the deficit. Admitting Roberts has no engineering expertise, Palin said the
city will contract out engineering services. " [Frontiersman, 9/24/97]
Frontiersman Editorial Wrote Mayor's Cronies May Be Running City Hall. A Frontiersman editorial wrote, "We find it interesting that political cronies of the mayor may be tacitly running city hall or trying to make staffing decisions." [Frontiersman editorial, 3/7/97]
Frontiersman Editorial Criticized Cronyism and Political Maneuvering in City Hall. A Frontiersman editorial wrote, "Palin promised to change the status quo, but at every turn we find hints of cronyism and political maneuvering. We see a woman who has long-since surrendered her ideals to a political machine." [Frontiersman editorial, 2/7/97]
Economic Priorities, Sarah Palin
Published: Friday, December 4, 2009 at 4:19 a.m.
Last Modified: Friday, December 4, 2009 at 4:19 a.m.
It has been reported that the state of Michigan has the largest unemployment in the nation - more than 15 percent - which makes paying bills, putting food on the table and health care much more difficult.
Yet, when Sarah Palin went to this state to promote her book, thousands were waiting in line to purchase it and setting record sales at a time it is reported how bad the people are hurting because of losing their jobs. This picture just doesn't look right.
When you can set records in selling a book and have higher-than-normal sales on Black Friday with people losing their homes, no health care, no job, what is the true data for Main Street?
Palin Was Accused by Councilman of Changing Position on Annexation After Receiving Contributions. The Frontiersman reported that "[Councilman] Carney said Palin's political supporters might have helped change her mind on the annexation, adding that Palin received campaign contributions from several business owners outside the city limits. The business owners didn't want to join the city, citing the sales tax as a disadvantage for their businesses, Carney said. 'No, that's not true,' Palin said Monday of Carney's allegations. 'That was never a consideration.'" [Frontiersman, 9/30/92]
Wow, Palin seems like a nightmare when it comes to her "leadership."
Sarah Palin's book "Going Rouge" is still number one (1) on Amazon and number (1) on the New York Times Best Sellers. Just two weeks after publication, Sarah Palin's memoir has sold over 1 million copies. The print run for Going Rogue has been increased again to 2.8 million copies. The original printing was 1.5 million, then moved up to 2.5 million.
I bet her book is #1, it seems like she is a corrupt cronyist politician with a history of lies and drug abuse.
Wow, Boy Liberals resort to dis-truths when it comes to Sarah Palin...
"dis-truths" isn't a word, Larry.
Palin admitted her history of drug abuse. Now I understand how her book was "written" so quickly.
Palin Exaggerated Work Experience for Mayoral Campaign. In 1997, Frontiersman columnist Paul
Stuart wrote that after Palin had criticized her opponent for using City Hall resources for political gain,
"when Palin was asked back then (by me) why the lodge where she claimed, in her campaign, to have
gained her management experience, had no record of a borough business license or of paying any bed tax, she paused and said it might have been because the place had no clients for a year or so." In an article describing the possibility of recalling Palin, the Frontiersman wrote the "reasons include Palin's alleged falsification of her credentials during the campaign last fall." [Frontiersman, 1/22/97, 2/5/97]
Wow, little boy Liberals resort to lies when it comes to Sarah Palin...
There... Do you like that better???
Palin Exaggerated Work Experience for Mayoral Campaign. In 1997, Frontiersman columnist Paul
Stuart wrote that after Palin had criticized her opponent for using City Hall resources for political gain,
"when Palin was asked back then (by me) why the lodge where she claimed, in her campaign, to have
gained her management experience, had no record of a borough business license or of paying any bed tax, she paused and said it might have been because the place had no clients for a year or so." In an article describing the possibility of recalling Palin, the Frontiersman wrote the "reasons include Palin's alleged falsification of her credentials during the campaign last fall." [Frontiersman, 1/22/97, 2/5/97]
Frontiersman Editorial Said Palin Made Statements That Were "Patently Untrue," Said She Had Shown "Unrepentant Backpedaling and Incessant Whining." A Frontiersman editorial wrote, "Wasilla residents have been subjected to attempts to unlawfully appoint council members, statements that have been shown to be patently untrue, unrepentant backpedaling, and incessant whining that her only enemies are the press and a few disgruntled supporters of former Mayor John Stein." [Frontiersman editorial, 2/7/97]
Let me help you boys, since you are posting on several forums the same dribble...
Palin Exaggerated Work Experience for Mayoral Campaign. In 1997, Frontiersman columnist Paul
Stuart wrote that after Palin had criticized her opponent for using City Hall resources for political gain,
"when Palin was asked back then (by me) why the lodge where she claimed, in her campaign, to have
gained her management experience, had no record of a borough business license or of paying any bed tax, she paused and said it might have been because the place had no clients for a year or so." In an article describing the possibility of recalling Palin, the Frontiersman wrote the "reasons include Palin's alleged falsification of her credentials during the campaign last fall." [Frontiersman, 1/22/97, 2/5/97]
Frontiersman Editorial Said Palin Made Statements That Were "Patently Untrue," Said She Had Shown "Unrepentant Backpedaling and Incessant Whining." A Frontiersman editorial wrote, "Wasilla residents have been subjected to attempts to unlawfully appoint council members, statements that have been shown to be patently untrue, unrepentant backpedaling, and incessant whining that her only enemies are the press and a few disgruntled supporters of former Mayor John Stein." [Frontiersman editorial, 2/7/97]
Ksand99's got you working for him, now?
The man has skills.
Speaking about men...
One thing that you boys aint...
Come to think about it, I am not sure you even qualify as "boys."
Maybe weasels would be more fitting...
Someone just told me that Liberals were more like polar bears then weasels.
Going... going... GONE!!!
Palin Voted to Keep Bars Open Late, Shortly After Received Contributions From Bar Owners. "As a council member, Palin voted to keep the bars open late. Within two weeks of her vote, the Mug-Shot contributed $200 and Wasilla Bar $500 to Palin's campaign for mayor." [Frontiersman, 12/13/96]
Palin Was Accused of Paving Driveway for a Campaign Contributor. "Wasilla will foot the bill to install a driveway for a land owner who said when his street was paved, he lost access to his unimproved property".Wasilla property owner Don Tanner came to the council at the December council meeting to say now that Southview Drive is paved, he cannot get onto his property." The Frontiersman wrote, "Obviously, the mayor had a debt to pay there," [Councilman] Carney added, referring to Tanner's financial contribution to Mayor Sarah Palin's campaign. 'I was, frankly, appalled.' Palin said she had nothing to do with the council's decision." [Frontiersman, 1/17/97]
As Mayor, Palin Used City Resources For Her 2002 Lt. Governor Campaign. In her 2002 Lt. Governor bid, Mayor Palin used city employees, telephones, computers, fax machines for campaign fundraising and literature. On her candidate registration form, she used her City Hall fax number, and her mayoral e-mail address. Records show that Wasilla city property was used to contact supporters, donors, media contacts, and media purchasing. [Anchorage Daily News, 7/21/06]
Palin Was Accused of Paving Driveways with cry baby liberals....
Palin was accused of being nice to people....
Documents Show While Mayor Palin Had Thank You Notes to Campaign Donors Printed by Her Assistant on City Time and Arranged Campaign Travel from Her Office. "The Voice of the Times, a separate editorial section within the opinion pages of the Daily News, made the original public records request that produced many of the documents that Murkowski's campaign handed out Thursday, including a stack of telephone records, e-mails -- such as a campaign note from her mayor e-mail address to Ruedrich -- and invoices from Wasilla city hall. The documents appear to show, for example, that on one occasion Palin arranged campaign travel from the mayor's office. On another, her city administrative assistant printed thank-you notes to campaign donors. The administrative assistant, Mary Bixby, said in brief interview with the Daily News in late July that she was directed to perform those tasks while on the clock for the city." [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 8/18/06]
Palin's Ethics Problems: She Had Campaign Literature Faxed to Her City Hall Office.
"According to the records, Palin met with advertising firm Herold Advertising Products at city hall on June 12, 2002. The firm then faxed a draft of artwork for labels with a 'Sarah Palin Lieutenant Governor' logo addressed to then-deputy administrator John Cramer at the city. The following morning, the firm faxed an invoice for the labels to the city. Palin said that was the result of a saleswoman seeking her out at the mayor's office, and that she hadn't requested either fax. The search also turned up an itinerary for a campaign trip to Ketchikan in May 2002. The stack of public records provided by the city includes a memo saying the administrative assistant, Mary Bixby, worked on the itinerary and plane reservations for the trip." [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 7/28/06]
Well all, the boys are back in town and double posting again.. How childish...
Palin Opposed Taxing Oil Companies As Her Husband Was Employed by BP. Palin stated that, "Inherently, I have such a problem with taxes," when referring to taxing Corporate Oil Companies. Palin disclosed that her husband is currently a BP Employee working on the North Slope. [Fairbanks Daily News-Miner, 6/22/06; Associated Press, 9/22/04]
Frontiersman Editorial: Palin Blamed Everyone But Herself. A Frontiersman editorial wrote, "The mayor's administration has been one of contradiction, controversy and discord. While she will blame everyone but herself, we see mostly Sarah at the center of the problem." [Frontiersman editorial, 2/7/97]
Frontiersman Editorial Slammed Palin For Not Tolerating Dissent. A Frontiersman editorial wrote, "Wasilla is led by a woman who will tolerate no one who questions her actions or her authority." [Frontiersman editorial, 3/7/97]
This sounds just like George W. Bush:
Frontiersman Editorial: Palin Philosophy Is People Are Either With Her or Against Her. A Frontiersman editorial wrote, "Palin continues to lose public faith sticking by her philosophy that either we are with her or against her." [Frontiersman editorial, 3/7/97]
Fontiersman Editorial: Palin Blamed for everything...
Frontiersman Editorial Slammed Palin For Not Flushing Liberals Down the Toilet...
Frontiersman Editorial: Palin Philosophy Is That Every Should Work Instead Of Being On Welfare..
Frontiersman Editorial: Palin Failed In a Blatant Attempt to Confuse and Circumvent the Law.
The Frontiersman wrote in an editorial, "Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin failed in a blatant attempt to confuse and circumvent the law Monday night in order to pack the city council with candidates favored by her and her supporters on the council." [Frontiersman, 10/23/96]
Palin Opposed Taxing Without Representation...
Frontiersman Editorial: Palin Had "Either Little Understanding or Little Regard" for the City's
Laws. The Frontiersman wrote in an editorial, "Wasilla found out it has a new mayor with either little understanding or little regard for the city's own laws. Hopefully she will enhance her understanding of the city statutes." [Frontiersman, 10/23/96]
Frontiersman Editorial: Palin Failed In a Blatant Attempt to Confuse Liberals...
Palin is an utter failure
Palin Ordered that Department Heads Get Permission from Her Before Talking to the Press,
Which a Paper Called a "Gag Order. "She's also been criticized by the local semiweekly newspaper for a new policy requiring department heads to get the mayor's approval before talking to reporters. An editorial in The Frontiersman labeled it a 'gag order.' Palin said it's a temporary rule to smooth the way until department heads have a better sense of the administration's policies." [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 10/26/96]
Palin Threatened the City Council to Install Her Own Picks for Open Seats if They Did Not Resolve
a Deadlock. "Palin has encountered controversy from the start, beginning with Cooper, who at first refused to resign. She then tangled with the City Council, threatening to install her own picks for two open seats if the council couldn't resolve a deadlock." [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 10/26/96]
Frontiersman Editorial: Palin Had "Either Little Understanding or Little Regard For the Liberals Distorted Way of Thinking.
Palin Threatened the City Council to Empty the Trash Herself if the Janitor Did not Do it...
So a list of things that don't seem to bother LarryVegas:
Palin's lying
Palin's drug abuse
Palin's abuse of power
Palin's liberal spending
Palin's sales tax increase
Palin's cravings for earmarks
A list of things that the boys seem to lie about:
Palin's lying
Palin's drug abuse
Palin's abuse of power
Palin's liberal spending
Palin's sales tax increase
Palin's cravings for earmarks
Frontiersman Editorial: Palin Assumed Her Election Was a Coronation.
A Frontiersman editorial wrote, "Palin seems to have assumed her election was instead a coronation. Welcome to Kingdom Palin, the land of no accountability." [Frontiersman editorial, 2/7/97]
Frontiersman Editorial: Palin Assumed Her Election would be a fair contest. But she did not know how hateful Liberals were...
Frontiersman Columnist: First Few Weeks of "Palin's Reign" Nobody Knew Who Might Get Fired,
What Other Actions Might be Taken.
In 1997, Frontiersman columnist Paul Stuart wrote, "Actually it's been kind of quiet [in Wasilla] compared to the early weeks of Palin's reign--when nobody could keep track of which department heads would or wouldn't be fired. Or where historical buildings might end up located. For a few weeks, the department heads couldn't talk to the press. Then there was the prospect of censorship in the library. The death of the Liquor Task Force at Palin's hands. A half to annexation moves in progress, etc." [Frontiersman, 1/22/97]
Frontiersman Columnist: First Few Weeks of "Palin's Reign" Nobody Knew Sarah would be a lot more likable then most liberal boys...
Anchorage Daily News Editorial: Palin Has "Extreme Anti-Abortion Views."
The Anchorage Daily News wrote in an editorial, "Alaskans will also have to decide whether her extreme anti-abortion views and other socially conservative positions square with Alaska's generally libertarian approach to those issues." [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 8/24/06]
Frontiersman Columnist: The First Few Weeks of "Palin's Reign" She Brought Fresh Baked Cookies in For Everybody...
Anchorage Daily News Editorial: Palin Has "Extreme Anti-Abortion Views." Yea, she does not like abortions.
After playing with these liberal boys, I might change my mind about abortions...
Anchorage Daily News Editorial: Larry Has "Extreme Anti-Liberal Views."
Lunch time!
Seems I've kept Larry busy these past few hours. He's obsessed with eluding arguments and facts in lieu of personal attacks.
Typical republican.
Anchorage Daily News Editorial: Larry Has No Use For Left Wing Liberal Extremists...
Frontiersman Columnist: The First Few Weeks of Winter are tough on little liberal boys...
Anchorage Daily News Editorial: Palin Has Sold a Lot of Books to the disdain of the Liberal Extremists.
Frontiersman Columnist: Larry wonders: Where or where have the liberal boys gone. Oh where or where could they be???
519 comments?
Oh wait, Larry Vegas accounts for 518 of them. Keep _______ that chicken LarryV.
Lunch and nap time for our little liberal extremists.
They will return in force with all their little friends right after they get their diapers changed...
It's clear there won't be a knockout blow against Palin, but her fiscal conservative/reformer image is being slowly picked apart. From the bridge flip flops to sales tax hikes to fleecing oil companies to earmarks it'll be strange how little conservatives care.
Palin lied when she said the dismissal of her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, had nothing to do with his refusal to fire state trooper Mike Wooten; in fact, the Branchflower Report concluded that she repeatedly abused her power when dealing with both men.
Palin lied when she said the Liberals could not find their way home in the dark. Well, maybe not...
Sarah Palin's fans push for 2012 presidential run
By JUSTIN JUOZAPAVICIUS and BETH FOUHY -- 2 hours ago
FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. -- Lynn Giese calls Sarah Palin the best thing that's happened to the U.S. in a long time, and the 57-year-old housewife says she'd work tirelessly for the former Alaska governor were she to run for president in 2012.
After 8 years of a Republican White House, there still seems to be a reality distortion field around the concept of "Fiscal Conservative". Governor Palin presents herself as a fiscal conservative who has a record of helping taxpayers in her state. The reality has often been quite different.
It's surprising that someone who came into office as mayor to cut wasteful spending and lower property taxes, actually left office with Wasilla over $20 million in debt, when records show that she entered office with city debt at one million or less.
Some $14-15 million of that debt was due to a hockey rink she built while in office, land for which Wasilla negotiated the purchase for $145,000. They eventually paid out nearly $1.5 million for the land, not counting legal fees, due to Palin moving forward on the project before the city had clear title to the land. This echoes in significant ways Palin's later negotiations as governor on the Alaskan pipeline, where she committed $500 million in taxpayer money, without assurances that a Canadian company would even build the pipeline.
As the economy worsens in the United States, markets around the world are crashing and people are losing their homes and pensions, it's irresponsible not to question the economic positions and records of the candidates. In the case of Palin, her record has been extremely troubling and reflects part of the reason that she has lost credibility with so many Alaskans in recent weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm6SeDXqd...
Never one to miss an opportunity to jump on a conservative bandwagon, Sarah Palin has called on President Barack Obama to boycott the worldwide climate conference in Copenhagen this month, citing the recent "Climategate" emails incident as proof that global warming is based on "junk science."
Only 3 in 10 Americans think she's qualified to be President, LarryVegas.
(Just counting republicans or faulty internet polls doesn't count, you know...)
Locals speak about the effect of Palin's religious beliefs on her policies while she was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska. During the time she was mayor, Sarah Palin's church took over the board of the local hospital, resulting in an abortion ban. In this video, the Wasilla Project visits Palin's hometown to get a better understanding of how she mixed religion with politics as mayor. Watch more here:
http://www.salon.com/ent/video_dog/polit...
Palin lied when she repeatedly claimed to have said, "Thanks, but no thanks" to the Bridge to Nowhere; in fact, she openly campaigned for the federal project when running for governor.
Palin lied when she wrote in the NYT that a comprehensive review by Alaska wildlife officials showed that polar bears were not endangered; in fact, email correspondence between those scientists showed the opposite.
News Alert:
The White House has just announced that President Obama that he will be taking Sarah Palin's advice and will not be going to Copenhagen because global warming is based on "junk science."
Palin lied when she claimed in her convention speech that an oil gas pipeline "began" under her guidance; in fact, the pipeline was years from breaking ground, if at all.
Palin lied when she told Charlie Gibson that she does not pass judgment on gay people; in fact, she opposes all rights between gay spouses and belongs to a church that promotes conversion therapy.
Liberals say that Palin lied when she claimed in her convention speech that she was married and has children...
Palin lied when she denied having said that humans do not contribute to climate change; in fact, she had previously proclaimed that human activity was not to blame.
Palin lied when she told Charlie Gibson that she does not know how to cook.
Palin lied when she told voters she improvised her convention speech when her teleprompter stopped working properly; in fact, all reports showed that the machine had functioned perfectly and that her speech had closely followed the script.
Palin lied when she claimed that Alaska produces 20 percent of the country's domestic energy supply; in fact, the actual figures, based on any interpretation of her words, are much, much lower.
Palin lied when she recalled asking her daughters to vote on whether she should accept the VP offer; in fact, her story contradicts details given by her husband, the McCain campaign, and even Palin herself. (She later added another version.)
Palin lied when she denied having said that Obama was qualified to be President.
Palin lied when she claimed to have taken a voluntary pay cut as mayor; in fact, as councilmember she had voted against a raise for the mayor, but subsequent raises had taken effect by the time she was mayor.
Palin lied when she recalled asking her daughters to wash their hands after going to the bathroom.
Palin lied when she claimed to have taken a voluntary position with the Girl Scouts.
Palin lied when she claimed to have tried to divest government funds from Sudan; in fact, her administration openly opposed a bill that would have done just that.
Palin lied when she claimed to have tried to have a logical discussion with a left winged Liberal.
80% of the claims checked by politifact in Palin's book were false or misleading.
80% of Larry's favorite book is based on BS.
Palin lied when she said the Sun will rise in the East.
Palin lied when she repeatedly claimed that troop levels in Iraq were back to pre-surge levels; in fact, even she acknowledged her "misstatements," though she refused to retract or apologize.
Palin lied when she insisted that the Branchflower Report "showed there was no unlawful or unethical activity on my part"; in fact, that report prominently stated, "Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act."
80% of the claims made by politifact in Palin's book were false or misleading.
Even money says you guys don't have the stamina to hit 600. It seems like ages ago that I was basking in my glory for being the 200th (or was it 201st?) hit.
Palin lied when asked about the $150,000 worth of clothes provided by the RNC; in fact, solid reporting contradicted several parts of her statement.
Palin lied when she mischaracterized the "$1200 check" given to Alaskans as the permanent fund dividend check; in fact, that fund had yielded $2,069 per person, and she claimed otherwise to obscure the fact that Alaskans also received a $1200 rebate check from a windfall profits tax on oil companies - a tax widely criticized by Republicans.
Palin lied when she claimed to be unaware of a turkey being slaughtered behind her during a filmed interview; in fact, the cameraman said she had picked the spot herself, while the slaughter was underway.
Palin lied when she denied having rejected federal stimulus money; in fact, she continued to accept and reject the funds several times.
Palin lied when she claimed that legislative leaders had canceled a meeting with her to hold their own press conference; in fact, they only canceled it after being told she would not participate, and the purpose of the press conference was very different from the meeting's.
Palin lied when she announced on the news that she never holds closed-door meetings; in fact, she had just attended a closed-door meeting with the legislature earlier that day.
Palin lied when she said that former aide John Bitney's "amicable" departure was for "personal" reasons; in fact, Bitney said he was fired because of his relationship with the wife of Palin's friend, plus a Palin spokesperson later claimed "poor job performance" for his firing - without elaborating.
Palin lied when she claimed that Alaska has spent "millions of dollars" on litigation related to her ethics complaints; in fact, that figure is much, much lower, and she had initiated the most expensive inquiry.
Palin lied when she denied that the Alaska Independence Party supports secession and denied that her husband had been a member; in fact, even the McCain campaign noted that the party's very existence is based on secession and that Todd was a member for seven years.
Palin lied when she claimed to have voiced concerns over Wooten fearing he would harm her family; in fact, she actually decreased her security detail during that period.
Wow, what a slam dunk!
ksand99 DESTROYED LarryVegas!
Larry runs away from the issues and tries to distract and distort using dishonesty.
Palin lied when she insisted that Liberals are human too...
You are being unfair to Larry, gentlemen...
presenting factual evidence when being contrary with Larry puts him at a distinct disadvantage;
He has to rebut with bobbing and weaving, shucking and jiving, misdirection and subterfuge, and the old Ali Rope-A-Dope! Lar, you are gonna need a whole lot of ice bags to get the swelling down if you go the whole 15 rounds. Please, NO MAS, Larry, NO MAS.
Light Bulb Biden .....he is not that smarter than a light bulb.
Joe the Light Bulb Biden is hilarous.
He claimed to graduate in the top half of his law class....he graduate 76th of 85 students.
He said that we should focus on a 3 letter word...Jobs, Jobs, Jobs ....that is a 4 letter word.
He personally gave Israel a green light to attack Iran.
He called Russia a financially backward country right before the State department was about to launch a series of high level talks with them.
He kept talking about Obama increasing the number of battalions when it should have been brigades.
He was caught in college stealing term papers for his own use.
He was caught on more than on occassion on giving speechs the were directly lifted from other people's speeches.
He use to claim that his wife was killed by a drunk driver even though the cops say the other driver had nothing to drink and it was his wife the ran a stop sign and pull in front of the other driver in an intersection.
He once proposed giving Iran $500 million just to make them be more friendly with us.
He once proposed breaking Iraq into tiny little countries.
He asked a man in a wheelchair to stand up.
Introducing Obama for the first time and called him "Barack America".
He said that after the stock market crash in 1929 that FDR went on TV to speak to the country. FDR was not president in 1929 and only a handful of people had TV's.
He once ask his staff in front of national TV in front of millions for that number for the Recovery gov website. Either he is clueless about the interenet or he actually wanted tell millions to go to like 99.232.383.22 IP address.
Every once in a while he gets things right. He said that the Obama adminstration was clueless about the economy.
Here are videos of Biden drunk....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBNeNHHX...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkC...
Thank God, Obama rejected the little idiot's idea about Afghanistan.
You noticed lately that Obama keeps Joe locked up in a closet somewhere. Not even a one little peep from Joe lately.
Biden is Obama's court jester.
Keep up the good work, Light Blub Joe.
I pray everynight that Obama stays healthy and well until the end of his term.
God...please do not let ANYTHING happen to Obama!!!!
What kind of a fiscal conservative lords over a 48% increase in government administrative spending?
Sarah Palin did.
Fiscal conservative? Palin? No way!
Palin oversaw a 63% increase in total government expenditures between 1996 and 2003.
Palin's no fiscal conservative, that's for sure!
During the period she was in office, total spending on salaries and benefits rose an astronomical 67%!
Palin loved to outsource, on the taxpayer's dime!
The city's spending on outside professional services went up 900%!
Sarah Palin isn't a spendthrift when it comes to office furniture.
Wasilla's inventory of furniture and office equipment ballooned under her administration, increasing 117%!
I don't think she did a very good job!
When she won her election for mayor, Palin said, "A big part of my agenda is cutting out things that are not necessary"What I'm going to be known for is getting the basic necessities, the bare bones that Wasilla has needed for years and years.''
We all know Palin was NOT an effective administrator. Nothing that demonstrated fiscal "conservatism".
People are just upset their political party lost...still. People, just get over it. There's always 2012..
AP) -- Going Rogue has gone platinum. A HarperCollins spokeswoman said today that just two weeks after publication, Sarah Palin's memoir has sold 1 million copies. The print run for Going Rogue has been increased again, to 2.8 million copies. The original printing was 1.5 million, then moved up to 2.5 million.
I just checked Amazon and the New York Times Best Seller list. And guess what? You are correct...
Sarah Palin' new book "Going Rogue" is number one (1) on both sites...
Another "moderate" statement from Mr. Meow "The Moderate":
'We all know Palin was NOT an effective administrator. Nothing that demonstrated fiscal "conservatism".'
Nothing? Really? Not one tiny thing? Not one thing? Sounds like something that a leftist koolaid drinker would say.
very good from Mr. Meow Moderate...very good.
Another step taken by grand master of BS himself.
that's what meowington does.
it's quite apparent he never accomplished anything in his own life, so he pushes the "get something for nothing" socialist agenda so he can help himself to the fruits of others labor.
all the while disparaging those who have achieved more in life, Sarah Palin included.
FORT HOOD, Texas -- Army Staff Sgt. Kevin Sinnott pre-ordered Sarah Palin's book "Going Rogue" because he wanted to hear her story in her own words. He never imagined he would meet her.
But on Friday, Sinnott was among hundreds at Fort Hood waiting for the former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate to arrive as part of her book-signing tour.
"I'm impressed with the book," said Sinnott, 29, of Clinton, Utah. "It gets so much more in-depth into her life, and you can see what she says instead of reading about her in the media. It's nice of her to come here, and I really appreciate it because it shows her support."
The crowd began chanting "Sarah! Sarah!" just before Palin arrived Friday night. Many stood on chairs, their cameras poised to capture Palin as she entered. Palin waved, smiled and then sat down at a table, which was blocked from view by several black partitions.
"it's quite apparent he never accomplished anything in his own life, so he pushes the "get something for nothing" socialist agenda so he can help himself to the fruits of others labor.
Do you even know what socialism is? I think not. Average Joe's always get confused because they're average, not intelligent.
all the while disparaging those who have achieved more in life, Sarah Palin included."
There are millions of people who have done a lot in this world that are not famous. I don't want to be on a spot of ridicule and praise.
"Nothing? Really? Not one tiny thing? Not one thing? Sounds like something that a leftist koolaid drinker would say." =PvtRock
You get the point :)
What are you trying to imply that I'm a "leftist koolaid drinker"? Are you implying that I'm a black person?
Ethics? Sarah Palin seems to have a problem with ethics.
In her 2002 Lt. Governor bid, Mayor Palin used city employees, telephones, computers, fax machines for campaign fundraising and literature. On her candidate registration form, she used her City Hall fax number, and her mayoral e-mail address. Records show that Wasilla city property was used to contact supporters, donors, media contacts, and media purchasing. [Anchorage Daily News, 7/21/06]
Sarah didn't violate ethics laws? Then why apologize?
Documents Show While Mayor Palin Had Thank You Notes to Campaign Donors Printed by Her Assistant on City Time and Arranged Campaign Travel from Her Office. "The Voice of the Times, a separate editorial section within the opinion pages of the Daily News, made the original public records request that produced many of the documents that Murkowski's campaign handed out Thursday, including a stack of telephone records, e-mails -- such as a campaign note from her mayor e-mail address to Ruedrich -- and invoices from Wasilla city hall. The documents appear to show, for example, that on one occasion Palin arranged campaign travel from the mayor's office. On another, her city administrative assistant printed thank-you notes to campaign donors. The administrative assistant, Mary Bixby, said in brief interview with the Daily News in late July that she was directed to perform those tasks while on the clock for the city." For any mistakes she did make, Palin said, "I apologize." [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 8/18/06]
But, Knowles charged, after less than two years in the governor's office, Palin now has her own ethical cloud hanging over her. In her brief political career, according to Knowles, Palin has demonstrated a pattern of using political office to settle personal scores and pad her lifestyle.
Knowles pointed to the recent "per diem" controversy as one example of the petty ways Palin has "gamed the system" for personal gain. "By establishing the governor's house in Juneau as her home of record, instead of her family residence in Wasilla where she actually lives, Palin was able to charge the state for $17,000 in per diem expenses. Everybody in the state knows she doesn't really live in Juneau -- she just stays there a few days when the Legislature is in session. She lives in Wasilla, so she shouldn't be generating travel expenses there. But she hit up the state for $17,000 a year for meals -- that's not what I call just macaroni and cheese for the kids."
Knowles thinks the "Troopergate" scandal -- Palin's alleged misuse of her office to fire a state trooper involved in a messy divorce with her sister -- is an even more blatant example of the vice-presidential candidate's abuse of power: "This is the very definition of corruption -- using the power of your office and directing government employees to do something illegal for your personal advantage. She was using her office to pursue a personal vendetta."
And, Knowles pointed out, after promising to fully cooperate with a legislative investigation, Palin has since hired a lawyer at the state's expense, who has advised her staff not to cooperate, and she is now trying to sabotage the probe by handing the case to a personnel board made up of her own appointees. "She clearly doesn't want the truth out before the election. The fact that she might be elected before the American people know the full story is very disturbing."
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/0...
Why was Senator Max Baucus allowed to nominate his paramour for an important position in the Justice (Injustice?) Department?
Why was LarryVegas banned from this Blog?
It is our non-negotiable demand that LarryVegas be immediately reinstated. Otherwise the stench of this indignity will linger in the nostrils of our community for generations.
Larry: how did I do?
I see ksand99 is at it again. Posting old and I do mean old articles that he can pull out of his trash cans. He posts articles that later were debunked. Boys will be boys...
Nice guys these left wing liberal Extremists. But really they are nothing but a distraction in the big picture.
Meanwhile Sarah Palin is selling more books and drawing large crowds at her book signings. She gains in popularity every day...
ksand99 and liberal friends attempt to disrupt any discussion that goes against their hate filled political principles...
Too bad for the left but good for middle America...
I am back by popular demand. I just have to watch what I say. It's all right for ksand99, edgewise and their ilk to post whatever, but I can't hurt their feelings or I am OUT OF HERE...
You are doing real good there Mike. Maybe you should run for political office...
Larry: Congratulations! We Who Are About To Die Salute You!
Thanks for the endorsement but I distain politics and 99% of politicians. I once had a political pedigree but I'm much prouder of being the first INS trial attorney to have a fistfight with an illegal alien during his deportation hearing.
How did Larry get "kicked off this blog"?
That would be just silly. And heck, Lar, we are gonna hit 600 come hell or high water and your contributions are essential!
That said;
I see Army Staff Sgt. Kevin Sinnott has as big a crush on Sarah as Larry! You guys are like GAGA over the ol' cougar. It's ok if you feel a little embarrassed by it guys, I feel a little embarrassed for you. I do have one question for ya, Larry... are you chasing a younger woman or an older woman, relative to your age, sir?
Mike...
I think that a book may in order, or maybe a movie.
I would like to hear about your experiences as an INS trial attorney..
Hey, good morning there gmager.
You ask a very personal question about me chasing a younger woman or an older woman.
Well, I am sorry to say that I might have two problems there. One problem would be catching one and the other problem would be what to do with one if I was able to catch one...
Maybe my age has something to do why I cant stomach some little punks abuse or demonize women. I was taught to open doors and treat women with respect...
She billed the state for a "per diem" travel allowance, for nights spent at her own home.
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a "per diem" allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business.
The governor also has charged the state for travel expenses to take her children on official out-of-town missions. And her husband, Todd, has billed the state for expenses and a daily allowance for trips he makes on official business for his wife.
Palin, who earns $125,000 a year, claimed and received $16,951 as her allowance, which officials say was permitted because her official "duty station" is Juneau, according to an analysis of her travel documents by The Washington Post.
Did Sarah Palin's book have many chapters about her drug use?
"Palin Smoked Pot, But Said She Doesn't Support Legalizing It. "Palin doesn't support legalizing
marijuana, worrying about the message it would send to her four kids. But when it comes to cracking down on drugs, she says methamphetamines are the greater threat and should have a higher priority. Palin said she has smoked marijuana -- remember, it was legal under state law, she said, even if illegal under U.S. law -- but says she didn't like it and doesn't smoke it now. 'I can't claim a Bill Clinton and say that I never inhaled.'" [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 8/6/06]"
I certainly don't fear Sarah Palin, I fear the lies and distortions she uses to present herself as a crusader against pork, when she personally requested million in earmarks for Alaska.
I fear the lies and distortions she uses to present herself as a fiscal conservative, when she left Wasilla with a ton of debt after increasing spending across the board.
I fear her worshippers believe the lies, rather than a good glimpse at her record.
They can't refute the facts, only attack the messenger. I say: bring it on.
"Palin has continued to repeat the already exposed lie that she said "No, thanks" to the famous "bridge to nowhere" (McCain's favorite example of wasteful federal spending). In fact, she said "Yes, please" until the project became a symbol and political albatross."
"Under the state constitution, the governor of Alaska has unusually strong powers to shape the state budget. At the Republican National Convention, Palin bragged that she had vetoed "nearly $500 million" in state spending during her two years as governor. This amounts to less than 2% of the proposed budget. That's how much this warrior for you (the people) against it (the government) could find in wasteful spending under her control."
"Although Palin's words side with McCain in this dispute, her actions side with Obama. Her major legislative accomplishment has been to revamp Alaska's windfall-profits tax in order to increase the state's take. Alaska calls it a "clear and equitable share" tax. The state assumes that extracting oil from the tundra costs about $25 per bbl. and takes as much as 75% of the difference between that and the sale price."
"Why is a windfall-profits tax good for Alaska but not for the U.S.? Well, it's obvious, isn't it? People in Alaska are better than people in the rest of the U.S. They're more American. Although there are small towns and farms and high school hockey teams in the lower 48, there are fewer down here, per capita, than in Alaska. And there are many more journalists and pollsters and city dwellers and other undesirables who might benefit if every American had the same right to leech off the government as do the good citizens of Sarah Palin's Alaska."
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/politics/articl......
Over 900 comments between these two articles on Sarah Palin in the last two weeks or so..... Major important issues here get nowhere near this response. The lady is apparently a master at PR. and show business. She should prepare for the next presidential election immediately.
(AP) -- Going Rogue has gone platinum. A HarperCollins spokeswoman said today that just two weeks after publication, Sarah Palin's memoir has sold 1 million copies. The print run for Going Rogue has been increased again, to 2.8 million copies. The original printing was 1.5 million, then moved up to 2.5 million.
Sarah Palin's book is still number one on Amazon...
Sarah Palin's book is still number one on New York Times Best Seller List...
What does middle America think about Palin?
"44% of Republicans say she's not leadership material."
"7 in 10 Americans say she's not leadership material."
Wow, it seems she's not ready for primetime!
"She talks about being opposed to federal pork-barrel spending. But as mayor of Wasilla, she hired a lobbyist who raked in $27 million in federal dollars for the town of 6,700 residents. (That's $4029 of our taxes given to each Wasillan.)"
"A $1.9 million transportation hub and $15 million for a rail project in a town with 6,700 residents? How many small town mayors are getting funding from the feds for projects like that?"
Who would have ever thought that we could get to 600 post on this topic.
Special thanks to ksand99 and boys who helped get us here posting dribble. Thank you boys...
She's another "borrow and spend republican" that's for sure!
"
When she was first elected mayor of Wasilla, the town was debt-free. When she left, the town had $20 million in debt."
"Palin, who portrays herself as a fiscal conservative, racked up nearly $20 million in long-term debt as mayor of the tiny town of Wasilla -- that amounts to $3,000 per resident. "
Hey ksand99...
I posted the 600th post on this discussion. Thanks for your effort but you are a little to late with far too little.
"Borrow and spend" republican? She took the cash for the Bridge to Nowhere and spent it elsewhere. Fiscal discipline? Sarah Palin says, "You betcha!"
"As mentioned elsewhere on this site, she was in favor of the "bridge to nowhere" before it become a national embarrassment; then she turned against it. But guess what? She kept the money, and spent it on other road projects (including the "road to the bridge to nowhere", which currently leads up to an empty beach)."
"Gov. Palin's claim comes with a serious caveat. She endorsed the multimillion dollar project during her gubernatorial race in 2006. And while she did take part in stopping the project after it became a national scandal, she did not return the federal money. She just allocated it elsewhere."
"We need to come to the defense of Southeast Alaska when proposals are on the table like the bridge," Gov. Palin said in August 2006, according to the local newspaper, "and not allow the spinmeisters to turn this project or any other into something that's so negative."
Uncovering more of Palin's lies? Simple, just do a google search!
"Also mentioned elsewhere on this site, she didn't sell the previous governor's plane on eBay. It was listed a few times, but no one bought it. Ultimately, state officials sold it at a $600,000 loss."
"But in fact, the jet did not sell on eBay. It was sold to a businessman from Valdez named Larry Reynolds, who paid $2.1 million for the jet, shy of the original $2.7 million purchase price, according to contemporaneous news reports, including a story in the New York Times."
"Dan Spencer, the director of administrative services for Alaska's Public Safety Department, said that the Republican speaker of the Alaska House, John L. Harris, brokered the deal.Reynolds made campaign contributions to both Palin and Harris in 2006 and 2007. "
Would Sarah Palin have asked about banning her own book?
"As mayor of Wassila, Palin asked about having books removed from the town's library, and tried to fire the town's librarian when she refused to comply. Here's one story from the Atlanta Journal Constitution"
"WASILLA, Alaska -- Back in 1996, when she first became mayor, Sarah Palin asked the city librarian if she would be all right with censoring library books should she be asked to do so."
"According to news coverage at the time, the librarian said she would definitely not be all right with it. A few months later, the librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, got a letter from Palin telling her she was going to be fired. The censorship issue was not mentioned as a reason for the firing. The letter just said the new mayor felt Emmons didn't fully support her and had to go."
"Emmons had been city librarian for seven years and was well liked. After a wave of public support for her, Palin relented and let Emmons keep her job."
Some of the language in this following article can be abrasive.
Alaskans Speak (In A Frightened Whisper): Palin Is "Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, And Mean"
http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/05/...
Alaska was the last state in the US to reach compliance with that law, some six years later in 2000. Notably, the entire state had already been complying with the law, except for one city--Wasilla, under Mayor Sarah Palin. After Palin took office as Mayor in 1996, she fired police chief Irl Stambaugh apparently because he angered some of her biggest campaign contributors. The man she appointed to the job--Charlie Fannon--did not believe that the city should cover the cost of providing rape kits to victims. That's right--he believed that rape victims should be charged for the service of the police. If they couldn't afford to pay, they might as well not report the crime, since they wouldn't be able to prove it in court, and Palin supported Fannon in this policy, even when then-Governor Tony Knowles urged Wasilla to comply with the federal regulations. To force Wassila into compliance, Alaska passed its own state law in 2000 that required all city governments to cover the costs.
While the Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies have covered the cost of exams, which cost between $300 to $1,200 apiece, the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests.
Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon does not agree with the new legislation, saying the law will require the city and communities to come up with more funds to cover the costs of the forensic exams.
Boy, I am getting confused which discussion I am on, since ksand99 and boys are posting the same dribble on two different discussions at the same time. But then again. That's just me, since I am not a woman hater...
Let's hope Palin would treat her own family better:
"Though she now expresses support for her own (currently) unwed, 18-year-old, single-mother daughter, just months ago (after daughter Bristol was already pregnant), Governor, Palin cut over $1 million in funding for an Alaska program that--among other services--provides a home for teenage mothers. It would seem that she supports her own daughter, but anyone else's daughter is on their own."
"After the legislature passed a spending bill in April, Palin went through the measure reducing and eliminating funds for programs she opposed. Inking her initials on the legislation -- "SP" -- Palin reduced funding for Covenant House Alaska by more than 20 percent, cutting funds from $5 million to $3.9 million. Covenant House is a mix of programs and shelters for troubled youths, including Passage House, which is a transitional home for teenage mothers."
"According to Passage House's web site, its purpose is to provide "young mothers a place to live with their babies for up to eighteen months while they gain the necessary skills and resources to change their lives" and help teen moms "become productive, successful, independent adults who create and provide a stable environment for themselves and their families."
Have you read this article in the Wall Street Journal?
http://online.wsj.com/public/article_pri...
It exposes Sarah Palin's lies.
Here's another fact-check.
Palin doesn't fare well, of course.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF0j8PTyj...
CNN explores more Palin lies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XrGp1iRJ...
"It's one of Sarah Palin's favorite lines on the campaign trail, repeated with such frequency that it has already become a catchphrase of the general election. As Governor of Alaska, she rid the state of an unnecessary jet using a creative and cost-effective online measure."
"What is left unmentioned is that Palin didn't come up with the idea to sell the plane using eBay in the first place. Moreover, because of the unique purchasing terms of the aircraft -- which required the state to make payments amounting to $20,000 per month even if the jet wasn't in use -- the decision not to hire a broker to help sell the property appears in hindsight to have been a costly mistake."
"Before the Alaska Republican took office, it was something of a standard operating procedure for the state to try to sell such big-ticket items using the online auction site. Officials had been doing it since at least 2003, three years before Palin became governor."
"It was the practice of the state to dispose of items such as this via eBay prior to listing the jet," Vern Jones, Alaska's Chief Procurement Officer, acknowledged on Tuesday."
"Despite being a normal state procedure and, in the end, a costly one, Palin has highlighted her decision to put Alaska's luxury jet on eBay in every speech she has given since being chosen as McCain's vice president. It is a significantly abridged version of what happened."
"By the time she was elected, there were many state items being offered on eBay. As the Anchorage Daily News reported on December 13, 2006, nine days after Palin took office and the day she announced the jet posting, the state was "auctioning 38 items on the site, including three aircraft -- two Super Cubs and a Cessna... Other items for sale included two sets of used helicopter floats ($300) and King Air exhaust stacks ($500)."
"Back in 2003, the state sold an old ferry, The Bartlett, for $389,500. As Jones noted in a Daily News article at that time, "it [was] not unusual for Alaska to sell big-ticket items on eBay because the site is cheap and has a big audience."
Boo...
Remember when Palin showed just how little she understood about being President?
""I think on a national level, your department of law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out," she said."
Maybe the "department of law" is something they taught at one of the four or five colleges Palin attended?
Larry: let's connect for a beer around Christmas. We can toast the demise of the public option!
Yes Mike, we should do that.. A beer summit for those who don't have to say they are sorry...
What kind of beer would be politically correct enough so that our liberal friends wont cry foul? Maybe the boys would approve of us drinking a non alcohol, light, non-beer tasting brew. Kinda like their political principles. Thin and tasteless as water.
I don't think Sarah Palin would approve of two men flirting online, mikegino and Larry.
"Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin says she supports a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, a break with John McCain, who has said he believes states should be left to define what marriage is."
"In an interview with Christian Broadcasting Network, the Alaska governor said she had voted in 1998 for a state amendment banning same-sex marriage and hoped to see a federal ban on such unions. "
Sarah Palin may not approve of your "friendship," but I'm open-minded enough to say Mazel Tov!
Sarah Palin wouldn't be good for Nevada, that's for sure! Did you read this?
Palin Opposed The Expansion of Gambling in Alaska.
Asked if she would support the expansion of gambling in Alaska, Palin responded, "No, in so many cases, gambling has shown ill effects on families and as Governor I would not propose expansion legislation." Asked if she would you sign any bills that expand gaming in Alaska, Palin responded, "No." [Eagle Forum questionnaire]
Just the facts - Jack...
POLITICS DIGEST
Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin is lending her support to a conspiracy theory promoted by fringe groups, saying of the idea that President Obama may not have an American birth certificate, "I think the public rightfully is still making it an issue."
Palin's comments came in an interview Thursday on "The Rusty Humphries Show," a conservative radio program, while promoting her book about the 2008 presidential campaign, "Going Rogue."
"I think it's a fair question, just like I think past associations and past voting records -- all of that is fair game," the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee said.
Hmmm... that's really interesting, Larry. Thanks for your input.
Palin Opposed Supreme Court Ruling Giving Same-Sex Couples Benefits. Asked if she would support the Alaska Supreme Court's ruling that spousal benefits for state employees should be given to same-sex couples, Palin responded, "No, I believe spousal benefits are reserved for married citizens as defined in our constitution." [Eagle Forum questionnaire]
I guess discrimination is A-ok with Sarah Palin.
I wonder, why did it take so long for the McCain campaign to let someone interview Sarah Palin.
How long did they wait? 13 days?
Oh, I guess they didn't want Palin to be unprepared for the disaster of an interview with Charlie Gibson.
She seemed very unprepared and unsure of herself.
Larry: I more inclied toward one of the new micro's that have an alcohol content of at least 25%. No Steel Reserve though, that obscene moonshine almost killed me one night. I had a two-day hangover and no free ibuprofen from the government!
Kevin: I would love to shake hands with Gibson's face. With Katie, I might have enjoyed spanking her...twenty years ago.
Hey Mike, did you see that Sarah Palin failed a FOX NEWS FACTCHECK?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=838_12579...
You know things are going bad for the unemployed former-Mayor when even Fox News has to clarify Sarah's inconsistent rhetoric!
Wait, good news for you guys!
"Palin's first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples."
Palin's out of step with the religious right. I wonder if they know that!
GOING ROGUE #1 FOR SECOND STRAIGHT WEEK ON NY TIMES BEST SELLER LIST
By Tommy Report
To nobody's surprise, Going Rogue is #1 for the second straight week on the NY Times Best Seller list for Hardcover Nonfiction.
Kevin: As I've said before, I'm not a big fan of Palin and I held my nose and closed my eyes when I voted for the ticket. I'm also no big fan of McCain and still resent his attempt to investigate me ten years ago. However, I knew that the alternative was a potential death blow to our country. PS: I also did not vote for George W. Bush on either occasion.
I wouldn't call this an "evolution" of her position... Sarah doesn't believe in that.
"Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, Sen. John McCain's (R-AZ) vice presidential running mate, signals in her new book Going Rogue that she doesn't believe in evolution, panning it as theory that human beings "originated from fish that sprouted legs and crawled out of the sea."
"According to a review published Sunday in The New York Times, Palin knocks evolution in her new book."
"Elsewhere in this volume, she talks about creationism, saying she "didn't believe in the theory that human beings -- thinking, loving beings -- originated from fish that sprouted legs and crawled out of the sea" or from "monkeys who eventually swung down from the trees." In everything that happens to her, from meeting Todd to her selection by Mr. McCain for the Republican ticket, she sees the hand of God: "My life is in His hands. I encourage readers to do what I did many years ago, invite Him in to take over."
"Palin's stance may itself an be "evolution" from a previous position. In 2006, ThinkProgress notes, Palin advocated that both creationism (the belief that humankind originated from a supreme being) and evolution should be taught side-by-side in public schools."
Ever the intellectual, ain't she?
gregory: I don't believe she has those pretensions. I'm not a fan but I understand her appeal, which is based on a very simple message and calling. Frankly, I understand her appeal because (on notable occasions) I listen to my wife who is much more intellectual and analytical than either Palin or myself. The biggest mistake that you on the Left can make is to not understand her appeal. She may be a false prophet like Obama or Mandingo, but her appeal is real to the people that she connects with.
Any bets that Mike's wife was standing behind him when he made his last post?
I always say nice things about my wife when she is around. The rest of the time I just mumble...
Palin Said Mortage Giants Are 'Too Expensive To The Taxpayers.' Speaking in Colorado Springs, CO, Palin said that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers." The companies, however, aren't taxpayer funded. [McClatchy News, 9/6/08]
Palin doesn't respect the Constitution:
Palin Said She Supported a Constitutional Amendment Overturning Supreme Court Mandate of
Benefits for Same-Sex Couples.
Asked if she would support a Constitutional amendment to overturn the Alaska Supreme Court decision mandating public employers to provide benefits equivalent to same-sex couples, Sarah Palin responded "yes." [Alaska Family Council Voter Guide, 8/22/06]
Isn't it "politics as usual" to beg Washington for earmarks, like Sarah Palin did?
You betcha.
Larry: my wife is a Mexican-Yaqui. She sleeps with one eye open and a death grip on my Gerber Mark II. With her as my protector, I can sleep like a dead man.
I still hold that Birdie had the best post on this one (post number 3). He's either still up at 0500 (5 A.M. to you draft dodgers) or he and Kevin stay up all night on power drinks.
Yea, I caught that one from the "Bird" myself. He must be besides himself on that one. At least he keeps up a little on current events.
I am getting worried about Kevin. I think he has went off the deep end. Is Kevin old enough to be in that deep of water? I hope he knows what he is doing. He might hurt himself.
Why would Sarah Palin need to circumvent the law to communicate with her staff?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4JdyhkSx...
Larry: By the way, my wife says that she's heading for Oregon if the Azlanistas ever complete the Recoquista. I'm with her!
http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Oct14/0...
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, whose reformer image took a hit in a report concluding she abused her powers to settle a family score, has skirted state ethics rules before for personal benefit and used her office to help friends and supporters, according to an Associated Press review of records.
Palin's first try at statewide office, after six years as mayor of Wasilla, was an unsuccessful run for lieutenant governor in 2002. To raise money, she improperly used her City Hall office and equipment, city records show. A year later she would make headlines by blasting a fellow Republican for, among other things, improperly using his government position to boost his campaign.
Then, in 2006, Palin won the governor's race with a vow to reform state ethics. But in less than two years, she has repeatedly taken actions that violated her own stated standards for ethical behavior _ if not state law. In the process, the Republican vice presidential nominee has become much like the old-school politicians she attacked during her rise to power.
Some examples:
_She pummeled opponents for giving oil companies and other businesses too much control of state government. Yet she appointed the founder of an engineering firm that received $6.8 million in state business as head of the transportation department.
_She has accepted dozens of gifts worth tens of thousands of dollars since taking office, including two free trips last year that she failed to report on disclosure forms, despite criticizing state legislators for the gifts they take.
_She is under another investigation, accused of misusing her office to campaign against a voter referendum calling for tighter mining regulations. Her husband, Todd, has accepted free trips from a mining company to look at their proposed new site.
_Another ethics complaint, unresolved, accuses her staff of finding a state job for a friend and campaign contributor.
Last week, an investigation by the Alaska legislature found that Palin, running mate to Republican presidential candidate John McCain, abused her powers when she and her husband improperly pressured the state public safety commissioner to fire her sister's ex-husband, a state trooper. The brother-in-law was never fired, but Palin fired the commissioner in July.
"They are also building schools for the Afghan children so that there is hope and opportunity in our neighboring country of Afghanistan." --Sarah Palin, speaking at a fundraiser in San Francisco, Oct. 5, 2008
Mike: I am not too sure it's any better in Oregon. The Azlanistas are everywhere but I don't believe they will ever be successful unless they repeal the second amendment.
Palin's used to making wacky conspiracy theories the hallmarks of her campaigns. Historically:
"Palin has always been a brutal campaigner and in her first campaign for mayor, she demanded that her opponent produce his own marriage license to prove that he was in fact married to his wife. Of course, her first opponent did produce his license. "
I had better things to do today then look at this computer all day. I was going to go see a movie, but this is now more exciting waiting for ksandy to go up like a roman candle...
I like Palin. She is the most experienced person in the United States of America, the greatest country of all to become President.
She's a typical hockey mom!
Stop the hate, haters! You're just jealous that she's a threat to the democratic party!!!!!
YOU'RE ALL AFRAID OF HER BECAUSE OF HER INTELLIGENCE AND AMAZING INTERVIEWS
"The news here is that, to her credit, Palin says that all inquiries into a candidate's veracity, record, associations, and medical history are legitimate forms of inquiry. She therefore backs this blog's near-solitary attempt to get her to provide evidence - after very serious questions of fact emerged - that she was indeed the biological mother of Trig. To all those Palinites and McCainiacs and right and left bloggers who decried this question as lunatic, Palin has now said she differs. They were more Palinite than Palin."
"But here's the critical sentence:"
"In that weird conspiracy-theory freaky thing that people talk about that Trig isn't my real son. And a lot of people say, "Well you need to produce his birth certificate! You need to prove that he's your kid!" Which we have done."
"Palin has never produced Trig's birth certificate or a single piece of objective medical evidence that proves he is indeed her biological son. A child with Down Syndrome must have a pile of such records, tests, assessments and ultrasounds that conclusively prove that he is Sarah's biological son. It seems bizarre to me that neither the public nor the campaign (so far as I can glean) has ever been given one of them."
"Her doctor, Catherine Baldwin Johnson, offered a two-page summary of Palin's health just hours before polls opened on November 3, a bizarre approach to transparency. The summary omits certain details from Palin's medical history (two miscarriages, one serious), and does not provide any actual documentary evidence of the pregnancy and birth. It was authored by a doctor who has refused to return any phone calls, even from the New York Times, since the moment Palin's candidacy was announced. The hospital has three recorded births on the day Trig was born: the governor's son, by wishes of the parents, was not included on the list. There were only a handful of photographs over eight months that showed Palin pregnant, none showed her as visibly pregnant as with her previous children, and at seven months, her entire staff and all of Alaska's political class disbelieved her"
She has cast herself as Alaska's ethics watchdog. In her most dramatic move, she revealed in 2003 that the state's Republican Party leader was campaigning from his state job. She then challenged incumbent Gov. Frank Murkowski two years ago on a platform of government reform.
After her victory, though, Palin reverted to political tradition, rewarding even marginally qualified friends and campaign backers with high-level positions.
A friend from her Wasilla High School class was named to manage the state's agriculture office after a career in real estate. A family friend and campaign worker became head of the state agency that distributes dividend checks to Alaskans from oil revenue. Her real estate agent's husband received an appointment to the state real estate board.
Palin's biggest political splash was from attacking the big oil companies that she said ran the state. She challenged their political power, and promised voters that her administration would avoid cozy relationships with business.
But one of her first cabinet appointments didn't live up to that pledge.
Leo von Scheben, a co-founder of Anchorage-based USKH Inc. engineering firm, took over the state's Department of Transportation and Public Facilities, and his firm's state business increased, records show. USKH received $6.8 million in state transportation contracts last year, up 13 percent from $6 million the year before.
Von Scheben stopped taking a salary and all benefits from the company when he stepped into the state job. But he didn't sever all financial ties. Von Scheben receives annual stock payments that he arranged before he left the company in 2007 that will continue for 10 years, according to his financial disclosure forms.
"I think on a national level your Department of Law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out." --Sarah Palin, referring to a department that does not exist while attempting to explain why as president she wouldn't be subjected to the same ethics investigations that compelled her to resign as governor of Alaska, ABC News interview, July 7, 2009
GOING ROGUE #1 FOR SECOND STRAIGHT WEEK ON NY TIMES BEST SELLER LIST
By: Tommy Report
To nobody's surprise, Going Rogue is #1 for the second straight week on the NY Times Best Seller list for Hardcover Nonfiction.
Except she didn't write it. There is a "ghost writer". She only talked. :)
Palin-Dobbs 2012.
When the Palin Fan Club goes to bed tonight, WHO will still be disliked by the majority of Americans?
"The buildup to her new book hasn't eased Sarah Palin's political challenges: Just over half of Americans in a new ABC News/Washington Post poll have an unfavorable opinion of her overall, as many say they wouldn't consider supporting her for president and more -- six in 10 -- see her as unqualified for the job."
"These views are much like they've been for the past year, when initially favorable responses to Palin's selection as the Republican vice presidential nominee quickly turned down in the heat of the 2008 campaign. "
Ms. Palin's unpopularity--the result of horrendous media coverage and her role as the McCain campaign's pitbull--is a major political obstacle. Her unfavorable rating hovers around 50%, the point at which most politicians would reach for the Valium.
An October Gallup poll put Ms. Palin's favorable number at 40%, her lowest rating to date. In a November Gallup survey, 63% of all voters said they wouldn't seriously consider supporting her for the presidency.
Yes, poll after poll show Palin's numbers are horrible.
She has become nothing more than fodder for late-night comedians. Her poorly constructed rationalizations for her numerous failures in Wasilla, Anchorage, and the McCain campaign have failed to make an impression on middle America.
As much as her Fan Club tries to sway public opinion, they see right through the Fan Club spin. These people are so in love with Sarah Palin that they can't objectively look at her record.
The resort to libel and personal attacks rather than solid arguments based on reasoning.
Their playground antics fail to impress, and only reinforce the negative image of Palin and her supporters.
They don't realize the damage they inflict on Palin's future. They can't coherently make an argument in her favor, just empty platitudes.
In essence, Palin's rabid fan club is her worst enemy.
Burrito asks:
"Larry, when the Palin haters go to bed tonight WHO will have the #1 selling book come Sunday morning?"
And the answer is.....
SARAH PALIN...
ITS SUNDAY AND GOING ROGUE IS #1 FOR SECOND STRAIGHT WEEK ON NY TIMES BEST SELLER LIST
To ksand99's disappointment, Going Rogue is #1 for the second straight week on the NY Times Best Seller list for Hardcover Nonfiction.
Sarah Palin at the Gridiron Dinner takes shots at self, journos
By
Lynn Sweet
on December 5, 2009
WASHINGTON--What! Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, palin' around with a group of elite journalists? She was, the Gridiron Club winter dinner, where she took shots at herself and the journos in the audience.
I'm taking a quick break from the dinner to file this, so I'm not ready to say yet if she has given one of those speeches that turned around her image. But in her 11 minute, 36 second speech, she did no harm to herself. Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) speaks in about 15 minutes.
Some of Palin's lines:
"You betcha. Who talks that way?"
On deciding to speak to the Gridiron Club "Sometimes you just got to trust your instincts. And when you don"t, you end up in places like this."
"At least now I can put a face to the newspapers I do read."
"It's good to be here though, really, in front of this audience of leading journalists and intellectuals, or as I like to call it, a death panel."
On being on the same program as Frank "And I'm the controversial one?
The Wall Street Journal
* December 5, 2009, 10:12 PM ET
With Humor, Palin Attempts Media Truce
Former Alaska Governor and vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, never a big fan of the mainstream media, stepped into the lion's den Saturday night and attempted to call a truce, of sorts.
Ms. Palin spoke at the winter dinner of the Gridiron Club, an organization of Washington journalists where parody and satire are the required entertainment form, and made light of her jousting with the Fourth Estate.
"Sometimes you just have to trust your instincts," she told the assemblage of senior Washington journalists. "And when you don't, you end up in a place like this."
Ms. Palin also made light of the intramural warfare that broke out within the John McCain presidential campaign after she became his running mate--a warfare that made great copy for many of the journalists who were in the room at a Washington hotel. Ms. Palin implied she was happy to be beyond the campaign experience, and to have survived the not-for-attribution attacks from McCain campaign aides that followed. She said she is enjoying, by contrast, her current tour around the country to promote her new book. "The view is so much better from inside the bus than under it," she cracked.
One of her jokes referred to the famous strains between her and Steve Schmidt, the McCain campaign manager famed for his shaved head. "If I ever need a bald campaign manager, all I'm left with is James Carville," she joked.
She also got in a dig at her vice presidential campaign rival, Joe Biden, saying that if she had won he would be the one on book tour. Taking off from the title of her book ("Going Rogue"), she said Mr. Biden's book likely would have been entitled "Going Rogaine," a reference to the vice president's hair-challenged profile.
But despite her history of tension with the Fourth Estate, Ms. Palin closed with a reference to her own background as a journalism student and sports broadcaster and a tribute to the importance of journalists and their role in keeping politicians honest.
Sarah's the typical politician.
One minute, she's telling us how evil the mainstream media is and how awful it has become. It's a common theme that runs throughout her book.
The next minute, she's accepting invitations to swanky soirees with the media elite.
She's consistently inconsistent.
Unfortunately for Sarah, she'll still be waking up to a nation which overwhelmingly thinks she's unprepared for the Oval Office.
Revealing herself as a typical pandering politician won't do anything to change public opinion on that front!
ITS SUNDAY AND GOING ROGUE IS #1 FOR SECOND STRAIGHT WEEK ON NY TIMES BEST SELLER LIST
To the Liberal women haters disappointment, Going Rogue is #1 for the second straight week on the NY Times Best Seller list for Hardcover Nonfiction.
Ms. Palin's experience in government makes Barack Obama look like George C. Marshall. She served two terms on the city council of Wasilla, Alaska, population 9,000. She served two terms as mayor. In November, 2006, she was elected governor of the state, a job she has held for a little more than 18 months. She has zero foreign policy experience, and no record on national security issues.
All this would matter less, but for this fact: The day that John McCain announced his selection of Sarah Palin was his birthday. His 72nd birthday. Seventy-two is not as old as it used to be, but Mr. McCain had a bout with melanoma seven years ago, and his experience in prison camp has uncertain implications for his future health.
If anything were to happen to a President McCain, the destiny of the free world would be placed in the hands of a woman who until the day before Friday was a small-town mayor.
Mr. McCain's supporters argue that he is more serious about national security than Barack Obama. But the selection of Sarah Palin invites the question: How serious can he be if he would place such a neophyte second in line to the presidency? Barack Obama at least balanced his inexperience with Mr. Biden's experience. What is Mr. McCain doing?
Hi Larry,
How are Palin's poll numbers? Still in the tank?
Better luck next time... or next year. Maybe next decade? How long is it gonna take to rehabilitate Palin's image?
She's sold some books but her poll numbers are still grim, grim, grim. I guess only her fan club, the vocal minority, is bothering to buy her book.
I especially found her statement interesting that marriage is only legitimate between a man and woman when her daughter is pregnant out of wedlock. This woman should not live in a glass house.
666...Time to close or we'll all be dammed. Wait a second, we already are!
not anymore!
Some of you criticize gov't, dems, obama, and stuff but you somehow support palin because she tells "the truth". It's just ridiculous. I saw a debate between Max Baucus and John McCain (which John McCain was in his right spot and the right to get pissed off, he did well) had a little fight.
I'm tired of being partisan, lets just be bi... ;) hahahahahah
Morning Kevin,
(All... I am posting this same post that is on the other Palin discussion site since Kevin has asked me the same question on both sites)
How are Palin's book sales going? That is a far better test of one's popularity and a good indicator of her developing base.
Another good test of Sarah Palin's popularity will be when she is offered her own television show. I think she could be more effective hosting her own show then seeking a political office.
The best way to determine the popularity of a political person is to observe the type of negative responses that are being levied against that person.
And observing this site and others on the web, those on the left are terrified of Sarah Palin. If she could not be a political contender, then the left would leave here alone and go on to more important matters.
Now as you know as political pundit, there is approximately 35 percent of voters who are Democrats and would never vote for Palin. On the other hand there is about 35 percent of voters who are Republicans and would vote for Palin without exception. That leaves about 30 percent in the middle who will decide the outcome of an election.
So how many of this 30 persent middle America are purchasing Sarah Palin's book? I don't know and I am sure you don't have any idea.
But this is the section of the populace that will determine the next election or two.
Hey now, Larry, I know you read Palin's book, but there's no reason to lie about her, you know.
According to the poll, 28 percent of Americans say Palin is qualified to run the White House, with seven in 10 saying the former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee is not qualified.
"On the other hand there is about 35 percent of voters who are Republicans and would vote for Palin without exception. "
I see you're not basing your info on any factual source. You must be taking after Palin.
"The survey indicates that a majority of Republicans, 54 percent, feel Palin is qualified, with 44 percent indicating she isn't. But only 29 percent of independent voters questioned feel she is qualified to serve as president, with 68 percent disagreeing. According to the poll, nine in 10 Democrats feel Palin is not qualified."
So your claim that "Republicans... would vote for Palin without exception" is not true. 44% of republicans do not think she's qualified to be President.
And the "30% in the middle" also think she's not qualified... a whopping 68% of independent voters!
55% of 35% = 19.25% would be Republican
29% of 30% = 8.7% would be Independents
10% of 35% = 3.5% would be Democrats
Total percent of voters who would vote for Palin, even after her book was a "best-seller" for "non-fiction?"
31.45% of all voters.
Sorry, Larry, 31% wouldn't win an election.
It might be news to some, but to win an election, you have to have more than 50%.
Did you hear the claim that Palin's father made?
"The Palin story of the day seems to be her semi-endorsment of the birther movement, but there's another question now being asked: Why did Sarah Palin leave Hawaii after one semester when she was an 18-year-old student? The New Republic draws attention to a startling passage from Sam Tanenhaus's recent New Yorker review of Palin's book: In Going Rogue, Palin says "Hawaii was a little too perfect. Perpetual sunshine isn't necessarily conducive to serious academics for 18-year-old Alaska girls." But Tanenhaus then flags another passage from Scott Conroy and Shushannah Walshe's biography of Palin, in which Palin's own father says she left because she was uncomfortable around Asians and Pacific Islanders: "They were a minority type thing," her father says, "and it wasn't glamorous, so she came home.""
Kevin: have you ever lived in Hawaii?
There you go again Kevin.
I try to be civil but you keep throwing out a lot of crap that really does not have anything to do about the business at hand.
Sarah Palin's popularity has not been decided yet. Her book sales will be an indicator and if she gets her own t.v. show, her ratings will be an indicator of her popularity but that doesn't mean she will be a candidate for any office.
Hi Mike,
Now I haven't, but my wife was born there and still has family on O'ahu. I've tried my hand at surfing there during a few vacataions. Lovely place...
Which makes me wonder: why would anyone be uncomfortable around Asians and Pacific Islanders? And why would Palin's father announce that to the world? How bizarre.
Hi Larry,
Palin's unfavorables are very high, right now.
You claim that republicans would "vote for Palin without exception." Why would they "vote for Palin" if she wasn't a candidate? You can't seem to keep your rhetoric straight.
But even that isn't true, as a whopping 44% of republicans think she is not qualified for higher office.
Maybe if her Fan Club could take down their blinders for a minute, they would recognize that Palin isn't well-liked, even within the republican party.
"I think that Sarah Palin would be more value to Conservatives as a Conservative television host then holding a political office."
Then why do you keep talking about how many people would vote for her? Here, let me quote you, in case you forgot:
"Now as you know as political pundit, there is approximately 35 percent of voters who are Democrats and would never vote for Palin. On the other hand there is about 35 percent of voters who are Republicans and would vote for Palin without exception. That leaves about 30 percent in the middle who will decide the outcome of an election."
"So how many of this 30 persent middle America are purchasing Sarah Palin's book? I don't know and I am sure you don't have any idea.
But this is the section of the populace that will determine the next election or two."
You're concerned about determining the next election or two. And then you ask why I'm talking about voting trends and Palin's sky-high unfavorables...
Out of 300 million Americans, only 1 in every 300 have bought her book. Is that "popular?"
I saw that Amazon has a fire sale on her book. It's at 50% off!
Now, usually, when something's "popular," retailers can ask full price because the wild fans will pay anything to get their hands on it!
I guess they see the writing on the wall and have slashed the price to move more units.
What do they call that? The bargain bin?
Kevin,
Why do have to be so demeaning and such an ass?
If you don't want a decent discussion, then don't initiate one.
Too bad you are so full of hate for Sarah Palin and other women that you conduct yourself like a spoiled little boy.
Too bad. I guess little boys have little ways...
THAT IS ALL...
To All except ksand99...
I am tired of ksand99 and all of the crap he spins. One can not have a viable discussion with this hater because of the way he twists and spins.
In ksand99 last post he writes: "I saw that Amazon has a fire sale on her book. It's at 50% off!"
What less then honest ksand99 did not tell you is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers at discount prices around 50% off.
I tried to have decent discussion with this less then honest ksand99, but now I am finished with having any dialogue with this hater.
JUST THE TRUTH:
Updated December 06, 2009
Palin Book-Signing in Iowa Leads to 2012 Watch
Sarah Palin was delayed on her way to Iowa Sunday as the former Republican vice presidential candidate got a late start from Washington, D.C., after visiting with wounded soldiers at Walter Reed hospital, but the delay did nothing to dampen anticipation for Palin's arrival.
Sarah Palin was delayed on her way to Iowa Sunday as the former Republican vice presidential candidate got a late start from Washington, D.C., after visiting with wounded soldiers at Walter Reed hospital.
The delay did nothing to dampen anticipation for Palin's arrival, whose visit to Sioux City is more than just the next stop in her national book tour but is being closely watched for any indications about a future presidential bid. Iowa's first-in-the-nation caucuses traditionally launch the presidential nominating season.
Huge crowds waited at Barnes & Noble book store, even lining up in the parking lot overnight, huddled in blankets to protect themselves from temperatures in the teens. Supporters arrived from such distance places as Texas, Ohio, North Dakota and Nebraska.
For supporters waiting to see Palin, they credit her enthusiasm, optimism and principles as reasons to come meet her. But many who see her as a great face for conservative principles say they aren't sure they'd support her for the presidency in 2012 or 2016.
"She seem unique amongst all potential presidential candidates," said Brent Hoffman, a conservative activist in Iowa. But, Hoffman added, her honesty and values make her popular, but not necessarily candidate material.
Palin's book-signing tour has been carefully controlled, and she has not spoken to reporters at most events. Still, her appearance in Iowa is seen as significant.
Veteran Republican activist Tim Albrecht said politicians don't just happen to stop in Iowa, and Palin must know that her visit is seen as a signal she is considering a run. And with former Bush White House aides helping out with logistics for her book tour, she's seen not just as hocking books, but potentially laying the ground work for a future run.
Another possible Republican contender, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, also visited the state recently. Sunday's visit isn't Palin's first. She drew several thousands folks to her campaign stop in Sioux City in 2008. This time, she's also attracted international media.
JUST THE FACTS-
AP - December 06, 2009
Palin Pokes Fun at Herself at Journalists' Dinner
The 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate joked that she had originally thought of titling her book "How To Look Like a Million Bucks For Only $150,000" before settling on "Going Rogue."
WASHINGTON - Sarah Palin poked fun at herself in a speech to journalists Saturday night, drawing laughter when she announced she "came down from my hotel room and I could see the Russian Embassy."
The 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate also joked that she had originally thought of titling her book "How To Look Like a Million Bucks For Only $150,000" before settling on "Going Rogue." In one of the controversies surrounding her candidacy, the campaign spent about $150,000 on her wardrobe.
Palin was the Republican speaker at the winter dinner of the Gridiron Club, an organization of Washington-based journalists.
Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., represented the Democrats.
Palin targeted her hosts, Democrats and Sen. John McCain's campaign staff, as well as herself.
If the election had turned out differently, she said, "I could be the one overseeing the signing of bailout checks and Vice President Biden could be on the road selling his book, 'Going Rogaine."'
Biden has sparse hair.
The crack about seeing the Russian Embassy from her hotel referred to Palin having told an interviewer during last year's campaign that her qualifications for high office included that "you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."
As for her hosts, she said she was glad to be appearing before an elite audience of leading intellectuals, "or as I like to call it, a death panel."
McCain's campaign staff also came in for a barb from the former Alaska governor when she said she is touring the country by bus as she sells her book.
"The view is so much better from inside the bus than under it," she said, referring to the poisonous relations between her and some of the McCain campaign staff.
Focusing on criticism she has received from Steve Schmidt, a senior strategist in McCain's presidential campaign, she said, "If I need a bald campaign manager I guess I'm left with James Carville," a Democrat.
In her book, she wrote that Schmidt felt she wasn't prepared enough on policy matters and even wondered if she was suffering from postpartum depression following the April 2008 birth of her son Trig, who has Down syndrome.
Palin, who resigned as governor following her vice presidential campaign, is a potential contender for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.
In his remarks, Frank poked fun at new media like Twitter and said he hoped for newspapers to make a recovery.
"Maybe I lack intellectual curiosity, but I'm not that interested in what Claire McCaskill has for lunch," said Frank.
The Palin Fan Club continues their personal attacks, but I could care less.
They misrepresent the facts, lie about polls, and seek only to portray their hero in a positive light.
That's why they claim that all republicans would vote for Palin, even though 44% have grave doubts about her ability to lead competently.
Only 3 in 10 Americans think she's ready to lead.
They talk about how people would vote for Palin, then criticize polls about her electability. They know they face a losing battle at the polls, so they try to sell her as an alternative to Dr. Phil.
America doesn't want an incompetent leader in the White House. That's why they chose Obama and Biden over McCain and his dangerous, reckless choice of unprepared Palin in 2008.
With all this media attention, her numbers aren't getting better. The more America gets to know Sarah, the more they say, "Thanks, but no thanks!"
In one of ksand99 last post he writes: "I saw that Amazon has a fire sale on her book. It's at 50% off!"
This less then honest ksand99 did not tell you is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers at discount prices around 50% off.
Kevin: "America doesn't want an incompetent leader in the White House." You'll find out in less than three years that America doesn't want a grossly incompetent poser in the White House either. Barry couldn't lead a latrine detail successfully.
Let's compare "honesty," shall we?
LarryVegas said that all Republicans would vote for Palin. No poll in existence confirms this... in fact many, many polls show that even Republicans aren't convinced of her ability to lead.
I said that Palin's book is on sale at 50% off. Even LarryVegas agrees that's true, yet he says I'm "less than honest?"
Then again, let's not forget about LarryVegas's bogus internet poll, where he claimed that 26 million people voted for Palin. This was untrue.
LarryVegas has implied that the majority of Americans like Sarah Palin, when in fact, if you look at her unfavorables, the opposite is true.
LarryVegas said that, as of three or four days ago, Palin had sold 2 million books. According to her publisher, who has access to actual sales data, that isn't true, either.
LarryVegas accusing anyone of being dishonest is the pot calling the kettle black.
Creepy:
"Sarah Palin, in an interview with Barbara Walters, talks about settlements:"
"I disagree with the Obama administration on that. I believe that the Jewish settlements should be allowed to be expanded upon, because that population of Israel is, is going to grow. More and more Jewish people will be flocking to Israel in the days and weeks and months ahead. And I don't think that the Obama administration has any right to tell Israel that the Jewish settlements cannot expand."
"More and more Jewish people will be flocking to Israel"? Who, exactly? Is this her analysis of Jewish demography? Is there a sudden upsurge in Zionist sentiment among American Jews, the only sizable Jewish community left outside of Israel? Or is this an indication that Palin buys into creepy End-Times thinking, in which the ingathering of the Jews, and their mass death, presage the return of Christ? Inquiring minds want to know."
There is no fact or truth that ksand99 will not spin and twist to fit into his own twisted Liberal rants...
ksand99 lacks the honesty or integrity to tell the full truth when telling the truth is easier.
An example: ksand99 wrote: "I saw that Amazon has a fire sale on her book. It's at 50% off!"
What this less then honest ksand99 did not bother to say, is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers at discount prices around 50% off.
Liberals like ksand99 will stop at nothing in demeaning anybody with different political views then his own...
So sad that some boys don't ever grow out of their childhood games. Particularly when it comes to demeaning women...
I saw that Amazon has a fire sale on her book. It's at 50% off!
This is true. Sarah Palin's book is currently on-sale at 50% off.
Yet LarryVegas calls me dishonest.
The desperate tactics of the right wing make me chuckle.
Let's compare "honesty," shall we?
LarryVegas said that all Republicans would vote for Palin. No poll in existence confirms this... in fact many, many polls show that even Republicans aren't convinced of her ability to lead.
I said that Palin's book is on sale at 50% off. Even LarryVegas agrees that's true, yet he says I'm "less than honest?"
Then again, let's not forget about LarryVegas's bogus internet poll, where he claimed that 26 million people voted for Palin. This was untrue.
LarryVegas has implied that the majority of Americans like Sarah Palin, when in fact, if you look at her unfavorables, the opposite is true.
LarryVegas said that, as of three or four days ago, Palin had sold 2 million books. According to her publisher, who has access to actual sales data, that isn't true, either.
LarryVegas accusing anyone of being dishonest is the pot calling the kettle black.
ksand99 twisted and spun Larry's statements just like he did to the statement he made about Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rouge," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
This is why so many Americans are relating to Sarah Palin. They are sick of tired of the lies and demonizing from the left.
But Liberals like ksand99 don't care because they lack the personal integrity that most Americans appreciate...
"ksand99 twisted and spun Larry's statements just like he did to the statement he made about Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rouge,""
Whoops, I never made that statement, as Palin doesn't have a book titled, "Going Rouge."
Poor Larry, can't even get the title of the book right.
ksand99 still does not see the difference of his statement that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rouge," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
That's all right ksand99, little boys have little ways and telling the truth is out of the question...
Larry, the title of your favorite book is "Going Rogue." You're citing a different book that is not written by Sarah Palin, buddy.
"The Huffington Post's Sam Stein recieved emails from former McCain aides which contradict some of Palin's claims in the book. "It's minor stuff but it gets to the credibility gap that is sort of plaguing Sarah Palin right now," he told moderator Nancy Cordes."
"One such e-mail disproves Palin's argument in "Going Rogue" that she was shielded from the press by the McCain campaign at large, campaign director Steve Schmidt specifically. On whether to appear on "Saturday Night Live," an e-mail from Schmidt shows Palin was hesitant because of the content of the sketch show and Schmidt says "do it if you want, don't do it if you don't."
"In the book she describes it much differently. She says that she was gung ho on the idea and that she was the one who had to convince Schmidt to do it," Stein explained."
"From the reporting that we have done for our book. We reported for eight months. We had 190 interviews for our book. There is a lot of stuff in there that does not match up with what Sarah Palin has been saying and some of it is provably false," Conroy explained, noting Palin's claim that her stylist also worked with Katie Couric. "That is just one example that can demonstrably be proven false and does not really help Sarah Palin in her efforts to win this 'he said she said' battle with the McCain folks."
In a more personal incident, Conroy explains how he and his co-author, Shushannah Walshe, were falsely described in "Going Rogue." "I was just reading through her book and she mentions an encounter that she had with Shushannah and I, my co-author of 'Sarah from Alaska," when we were in Juneau and she says that she saw both of us, the first time she saw both of us in Alaska was at a press conference in Juneau. Well the problem with that is I have never been to a press conference in Juneau."
"Washington Unplugged" played two interview clips back to back which clearly illustrated an example of Sarah Palin contradictions. In her recent interview with Oprah Winfrey, Palin explains that while in the past she refered to "family polls" to make political decisions, the call to agree to serve as a running mate to John McCain was made by only her and her husband.
"This time there wasn't a family vote. Other steps in my political life I have polled the kids and I have abided by some of the results of the polls that the kids have partaken in...This was I am going to make the decision. Todd and I would make the decision," Palin told the talk show host.
But, months earlier, Palin had a different account for Fox's Sean Hannity. "It was a time of asking the girls to vote on it anyway. And they voted unanimously yes," she said.
"No one is really going to believe her if she can tell little white lies about 'Saturday Night Live' appearances and votes within her family," Stein explained. "Why would someone think she is a credible source on actual substantive policy? She is really just hurting herself and for no apparent reason."
In her book, Palin says McCain's campaign chair chewed her out after she was fooled by that fake phone call from a morning radio DJ.
In her book, Palin says Steve Schmidt called and the force of his screaming blew her hair back, saying "How can anyone be so stupid?"
But campaign staffers tell ABC News, Schmidt only sent an e-mail asking, "Who set this up? Are you kidding me?"
On her decision to appear on Saturday Night Live, Palin says she was all for it. Her attitude was supposedly, "Let's go on and neutralize some of this and have some fun."
But in an e-mail she sent to the campaign before the show she said, "These folks are whack&what's the upside in giving them or any celebrity venue a ratings boost?"
The book says President Ronald Reagan had to deal with a worse recession and showed us how to get out of one -- if you want real job growth cut capital gains taxes and slay the death tax once and for all.
But the Reagan era recession lasted 16 months; the current recession is 23 months and counting.
And under Mr. Reagan, capital gains taxes were higher and the estate tax was not repealed.
Palin describes Alaska as a haven for independent Americans who do not want help from Washington busybodies, but Alaska is one of the states most dependent on government help. For every tax dollar sent to Washington, Alaska gets back $1.84. California gets 80 cents.
Palin says in the book she wishes she had made more of Obama's close relationship with ACORN, but adds, "We did not elaborate on any of that during the campaign."
But in the third and final presidential debate, John McCain said, "We need to know the full extent of Sen. Obama's relationship with ACORN, who is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in the is country maybe destroying the fabric of democracy."
"She's getting even with people in the media who she thinks treated her poorly, she's getting even with the McCain campaign, which obviously she feels didn't treat her very well also, and she's reaching out to her base and that, I think, is the key to understand this book and understanding what it's all about," Republican political consultant and Stanford University Hoover Institution research fellow Bill Whalen said.
Republican Senator: Palin Not Qualified -- Nebraska Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel said his party's vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, lacks foreign policy experience and called it a "stretch" to say she's qualified to be president.
"She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials," Hagel said in an interview published Thursday by the Omaha World-Herald. "You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything."
Could Palin lead the country if GOP presidential nominee John McCain could not?
"I think it's a stretch to, in any way, to say that she's got the experience to be president of the United States," Hagel said.
It is embarrassing to have to spell this out, but for the record let me explain why Gov. Palin's answer to the "Bush Doctrine" question -- the only part of the recent interview I have yet seen over here in China -- implies a disqualifying lack of preparation for the job.
Not the mundane job of vice president, of course, which many people could handle. Rather the job of potential Commander in Chief and most powerful individual on earth.
The spelling-out is lengthy, but I've hidden most of it below the jump.
Each of us has areas we care about, and areas we don't. If we are interested in a topic, we follow its development over the years. And because we have followed its development, we're able to talk and think about it in a "rounded" way. We can say: Most people think X, but I really think Y. Or: most people used to think P, but now they think Q. Or: the point most people miss is Z. Or: the question I'd really like to hear answered is A.
Here's the most obvious example in daily life: Sports Talk radio.
Mention a name or theme -- Brett Favre, the Patriots under Belichick, Lance Armstrong's comeback, Venus and Serena -- and anyone who cares about sports can have a very sophisticated discussion about the ins and outs and myth and realities and arguments and rebuttals.
People who don't like sports can't do that. It's not so much that they can't identify the names -- they've heard of Armstrong -- but they've never bothered to follow the flow of debate. I like sports -- and politics and tech and other topics -- so I like joining these debates. On a wide range of other topics -- fashion, antique furniture, the world of restaurants and fine dining, or (blush) opera -- I have not been interested enough to learn anything I can add to the discussion. So I embarrass myself if I have to express a view.
What Sarah Palin revealed is that she has not been interested enough in world affairs to become minimally conversant with the issues. Many people in our great land might have difficulty defining the "Bush Doctrine" exactly. But not to recognize the name, as obviously was the case for Palin, indicates not a failure of last-minute cramming but a lack of attention to any foreign-policy discussion whatsoever in the last seven years.
Two details in Charles Gibson's posing of the question were particularly telling. One was the potentially confusing way in which he first asked it. On the page, "the Bush Doctrine" looks different from "the Bush doctrine." But when hearing the question Palin might not have known whether Gibson was referring to the general sweep of Administration policy -- doctrine with small d -- or the rationale that connected 9/11 with the need to invade Iraq, the capital-D Doctrine. So initial confusion would be understandable -- as if a sports host asked about Favre's chances and you weren't sure if he meant previously with the Packers or with the Jets. Once Gibson clarified the question, a person familiar with the issue would have said, "Oh, if we're talking about the strategy that the President and Condoleezza Rice began laying out in 2002...." There was no such flash of recognition.
The other was Gibson's own minor mis-statement. American foreign policy has long recognized the concept of preemptive action: if you know somebody is just about to attack you, there's no debate about the legitimacy of acting first. (This is like "shooting in self-defense.") The more controversial part of The Bush Doctrine was the idea of preventive war: acting before a threat had fully emerged, on the theory that waiting until it was fully evident would mean acting too late.
Gibson used the word "preemptively" -- but if a knowledgeable person had pushed back on that point ("Well, preemption was what John F. Kennedy had in mind in acting against the imminent threat of Soviet missiles in Cuba"), Gibson would certainly have come back to explain the novelty of the "preventive war" point. Because he knows the issue, a minor mis-choice of words wouldn't get in the way of his real intent.
Sarah Palin did not know this issue, or any part of it. The view she actually expressed -- an endorsement of "preemptive" action -- was fine on its own merits. But it is not the stated doctrine of the Bush Administration, it is not the policy her running mate has endorsed, and it is not the concept under which her own son is going off to Iraq.
How could she not know this? For the same reason I don't know anything about European football/soccer standings, player trades, or intrigue. I am not interested enough. And she evidently has not been interested enough even to follow the news of foreign affairs during the Bush era.
A further point. The truly toxic combination of traits GW Bush brought to decision making was:
1) Ignorance
2) Lack of curiosity
3) "Decisiveness"
That is, he was not broadly informed to begin with (point 1). He did not seek out new information (#2); but he nonetheless prided himself (#3) on making broad, bold decisions quickly, and then sticking to them to show resoluteness.
We don't know for sure about #2 for Palin yet -- she could be a sponge-like absorber of information. But we know about #1 and we can guess, from her demeanor about #3. Most of all we know something about the person who put her in this untenable role.
What's the name of that book again?
Actually, there are several books under that title, LarryVegas. You need to be more specific.
Do you mean Going Rouge, the coloring book?
http://www.amazon.com/Going-Rouge-Sarah-......
It's at 28% off.
Do you mean "Going Rouge: A Candid Look Inside The Mind Of Political Conservative Sarah Palin?"
http://www.amazon.com/Going-Rouge-Candid......
It's not on sale.
Or did you mean Going Rouge: An American Nightmare ?
http://www.amazon.com/Going-Rouge-Nightm......
It's not on sale, either, buddy.
ksand99 still does not see the difference of his statement that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rouge," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
That's all right ksand99, little boys have little ways and telling the truth is out of the question......
"Going Rouge" is not Sarah Palin's book, Larry.
Why do you feel the need to attack and disparage those who disagree with you?
Those nasty right wing tactics don't make you very approachable, LarryVegas.
I don't know, if I was the sole champion of something like a book, I'd be extra careful not to misspell it, especially if by mispelling it, you inadvertently refer to a completely different book.
So which book are we now talking about, Larry?
Here goes ksand99 trying to spin his way out of the difficult situation he has got himself in and is now unable to spin himself out of.
ksand99 wrote: "I saw that Amazon has a fire sale on her book. It's at 50% off!"
What this less then honest ksand99 did not bother to say, is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers at discount prices around 50% off.
LarryVegas has a funny way of thinking of "honesty."
LarryVegas said that all Republicans would vote for Palin. No poll in existence confirms this... in fact many, many polls show that even Republicans aren't convinced of her ability to lead.
I said that Palin's book is on sale at 50% off. Even LarryVegas agrees that's true, yet he says I'm "less than honest?"
Then again, let's not forget about LarryVegas's bogus internet poll, where he claimed that 26 million people voted for Palin. This was untrue.
LarryVegas has implied that the majority of Americans like Sarah Palin, when in fact, if you look at her unfavorables, the opposite is true.
LarryVegas said that, as of three or four days ago, Palin had sold 2 million books. According to her publisher, who has access to actual sales data, that isn't true, either.
LarryVegas accusing anyone of being dishonest is the pot calling the kettle black.
"What this less then honest ksand99 did not bother to say, is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers at discount prices around 50% off."
There are tons of books at 10%, 20%, 30%, etc.
Sarah Palin's book is currently at 50% off!
Man, her profitability must be in the toilet.
ksand99 is back to posting nonsense that nobody cares about.
Run ksand99 run, or is it Spin,ksand99,spin...
I think that ksand99 is trying to avoid having to admit that he attempted to mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
LarryVegas thinks no one cares about Palin's record as Governor and as Mayor.
Of course they care, Larry!
They care that a fiscal conservative drove the small town of Wasilla into debt while raising the sales tax and creating a huge boondoggle of a project that still requires taxpayer subsidies.
They care that Sarah Palin's book fails fact check after fact check on some basic, mundane facts.
They care about Palin's many questionable ethical problems that follow her around from Mayor to Governor.
They care about her history of criminality and drug use. Her fan club loves to hold her up as an idol of American values. What idol of American values smokes pot?
They care about her wacky, unsure responses to questions about Russia, Israel and Palestine, and questions that even a freshman Congressman/woman could answer that Palin struggles with.
I've offered fact after fact after fact that you have failed to dispute. I've offered tons of sources, of learned opinions, and questions that no one has been able to answer about Sarah Palin.
I've given facts and figures which prove your rhetoric is based on lies or gross exaggeration.
I stand behind everything I've written.
Hey Larry, Amazon's current discount on Palin's book is 50%!
I wonder if anyone would buy it at full price?
Probably not!
How much did you pay for your copy?
So for the record, let it be known that the candidate for vice-president for the GOP is a compulsive, repetitive, demonstrable liar. If you follow the links, here is the proof. I repeat: proof:
- She has lied about the Bridge To Nowhere. She ran for office favoring it, wore a sweatshirt defending it, and only gave it up when the federal congress, Senator McCain in particular, went ballistic. She kept the money anyway and favors funding Don Young's Way, at twice the cost of the original bridge.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th...
- She has lied about her firing of the town librarian and police chief of Wasilla, Alaska.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th...
- She has lied about pressure on Alaska's public safety commissioner to fire her ex-brother-in-law.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th...
- She has lied about her previous statements on climate change.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th...
- She has lied about Alaska's contribution to America's oil and gas production.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th...
- She has lied about when she asked her daughters for their permission for her to run for vice-president.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th...
- She has lied about the actual progress in constructing a natural gas pipeline from Alaska.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th...
- She has lied about Obama's position on habeas corpus.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th...
- She has lied about her alleged tolerance of homosexuality.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th...
- She has lied about the use or non-use of a TelePrompter at the St Paul convention.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th...
- She has lied about her alleged pay-cut as mayor of Wasilla.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th...
- She has lied about what Alaska's state scientists concluded about the health of the polar bear population in Alaska.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th...
You cannot trust a word she says. On anything.
ksand99 and the left wing extremists are nothing more then a distraction from the truth. They are similar to little ankle biting dogs. These haters are just a nuisance trying to distract you from the truth.
These Liberals are good at twisting and spinning. A good example is ksand99 trying to mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
Sarah Palin was delayed on her way to Iowa Sunday as the former Republican vice presidential candidate got a late start from Washington, D.C., after visiting with wounded soldiers at Walter Reed hospital.
The delay did nothing to dampen anticipation for Palin's arrival, whose visit to Sioux City is more than just the next stop in her national book tour but is being closely watched for any indications about a future presidential bid. Iowa's first-in-the-nation caucuses traditionally launch the presidential nominating season.
Huge crowds waited at Barnes & Noble book store, even lining up in the parking lot overnight, huddled in blankets to protect themselves from temperatures in the teens. Supporters arrived from such distance places as Texas, Ohio, North Dakota and Nebraska.
Man, LarryVegas has a wild double standard. He wants to hold me to a standard he's not willing to uphold.
He's touchy about her book sales, but he lied and claimed she sold 2 million books.
"Hey ksand99, since you are so much smarter then the average person, how much do you think Palin has made out of selling over two million books?"
That was on December 1st. She hadn't sold 2 million books by December 1st. Scroll up and reveal LarryVegas' lies!
He's trying to distract and mislead the readers of these comments. Whereas my comment was based in fact (Palin's book is currently 50% off on Amazon), his LIES were complete fiction and a gross exaggeration of the truth.
I can link to Amazon proving her book is 50% off.
He can't give a single link which shows Palin sold 2 million books by December 1st, 2009.
The truth is out there, just don't get it from LarryVegas.
ksand99 is good at twisting and spinning. A good example is ksand99 trying to mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
Dec. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Sarah Palin, promoting her memoir, made her first trip to Iowa since she ran last year as the vice- presidential candidate on the losing Republican ticket.
Palin's visit to the state that traditionally holds the nation's lead-off presidential caucuses every four years sparked discussion about her potential candidacy in 2012 among people at the book signing and local political leaders. Brian Rosener, 44, the Republican Party chairman in the county that includes Sioux City, called Palin the "complete package."
"the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off."
Errr, nope, this isn't true, either.
Currently #5 on Amazon's Best Seller list:
The Twilight Saga Collection
List Price: $83.00
Price: $45.65
You Save: $37.35 (45%)
See, there are books in the top 25 that aren't at 50% off.
When is LarryVegas going to start telling the truth?
LarryVegas must have a funny definition of "ALL!"
See, it's in all caps, which means "without exception."
The problem with LarryVegas' statement? It isn't true!
HUFFINGTON POST: 12- 6-09 12:01 PM
McCain: 'I'm Proud Of' Palin, Thought Book Was Fair
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said he enjoyed Sarah Palin's book and thought the former Alaska Governor, who he helped thrust into the national spotlight, had an important role to play in the Republican Party's future.
Asked about his pick for vice presidential candidate during an appearance on "Meet the Press," the Arizona Republican sounded more like an adoring father than a man frightened by his own creation.
"I think that Sarah Palin has earned herself a very big place in the Republican political scene," McCain said. "I'm proud of her. I am entertained every time I see these people attack her, and attack her and attack her. 'She's irrelevant!' -- but they continue to attack her.
"We had a wonderful relationship, Todd [Palin], Sarah and I," McCain added. "I just saw her recently. And I'm very proud of her. And we need a vigorous discussion and debate in the Republican Party. She's going to be a big part of that discussion and debate in the future."
It was a gracious bit of praise from the senator. Palin's memoir, "Going Rogue," contains blistering rebukes of McCain's 2008 presidential campaign and more than a handful of swipes at the senator's top aides. Asked about this portrayal during his Sunday show appearance, McCain smiled and ducked.
"You thought her book was fair?" asked host David Gregory.
"Oh sure, yeah," said McCain. "I enjoyed her book."
ksand99 caught trying to mislead fellow posters.
ksand99 was caught trying to mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
ksand99's response: One (1) of Amazon's top 25 best sellers was only 45% off instead of 50% off like the other 24 best sellers.
ksand99 can twist and spin but he still attempted to deceive his fellow posters. Can we ever believe him when he purposely manipulates the truth.
Deception and manipulation is one of the many unfair tactics used by those less then honest...
It is proven: LarryVegas wants to mislead his fellow posters.
"the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off."
Errr, nope, this isn't true, either.
Currently #5 on Amazon's Best Seller list:
The Twilight Saga Collection
List Price: $83.00
Price: $45.65
You Save: $37.35 (45%)
See, there are books in the top 25 that aren't at 50% off.
Deception and manipulation is one of the many unfair tactics used by those less then honest... When is LarryVegas going to start telling the truth?
ksand99 caught misleading his fellow posters.
ksand99 was caught trying to mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
ksand99's response: One (1) of Amazon's top 25 best sellers was only 45% off instead of 50% off like the other 24 best sellers. ksand99 thinks that this justifies his original statement.
ksand99 can twist and spin but we all know that ksand99 attempted to deceive his fellow posters.
How can we ever believe ksand99 when he purposely manipulates the truth.
Deception and manipulation and calling people liars are some of the many childish tactics used by those who lack integrity and honesty...
um... Larry, if yo beleive that John McCain ACTUALLY READ Sarah's hissy fit, and found it to his liking to the point of GUSHING over it, I would like to sell you a bridge to nowhere. I've always admired John McCain, but he blew this one big-time, even if he was telling a "little fib."
Being called a liar by a liar sorta negates it, right?
Fact: Sarah Palin's book is 50% off on Amazon.
Ksand99's assertion: true!
Fact: NOT ALL of the 25 best-seller books on Amazon are 50% off.
LarryVegas's assertion: LIE!
This is why he ignores the mountain of evidence against his idol.
This is why he lies when he says she sold over 2 million books on December 1st.
This is why he lies when he says that Republicans would vote for Sarah Palin.
His credibility is shot.
Gmager: What makes you think that Palin's book was a "hissy fit?" Did you.. I bet you bought THE BOOK...
A bridge to nowhere is kinda where this discussion post is headed...
How can it be that some people still pretend that Sarah Palin is suited for high office? This country has never seen someone so comprehensively unprepared for the vice presidency; Dan Quayle was Metternich by comparison. I've watched Sarah Palin's interview with Katie Couric three times, and my astonishment does not diminish. Her nonsensical answer about Russia has deservedly been highlighted, but let me focus on another question, this one concerning the export of democracy. Couric asked, "What happens if the goal of democracy doesn't produce the desired outcome? In Gaza, the U.S. pushed hard for elections and Hamas won."
Palin's answer, in full, was this: "Yeah, well especially in that region, though, we have to protect those who do seek democracy and support those who seek protections for the people who live there. What we're seeing in the last couple of days here in New York is a President of Iran, Ahmadinejad, who would come on our soil and express such disdain for one of our closest allies and friends, Israel ... and we're hearing the evil that he speaks and if hearing him doesn't allow Americans to commit more solidly to protecting the friends and allies that we need, especially there in the Mideast, then nothing will."
The issue here is not that Palin didn't know the answer. There are many possible answers to this question, some of which are right and some of which are wrong. The issue here is that she didn't know the question. Because she was apparently ignorant of the subject, she endorsed Hamas' victory, and, in essence, called for the U.S. to "protect" Islamists who seek to use democratic elections to lever themselves into power. And, of course, Ahmadinejad came to power in a more-or-less democratic election. Palin's answer was truly remarkable. A person who could be President of the United States has shown herself to be completely ignorant of one of the most vexing and important foreign policy questions of the day. Freshman congressmen know how to answer this question.
ksand99 continues to mislead his fellow posters.
ksand99 was trying to mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
ksand99's response: One (1) of Amazon's top 25 best sellers was only 45% off instead of 50% off like the other 24 best sellers. ksand99 thinks that this justifies his original statement but his fellow posters are not buying it.
ksand99 attempted to deceive his fellow posters. How can anyone ever believe ksand99 when he purposely manipulates the truth to deceive his friends?
ksand99's deception, manipulation and calling people liars are some of the many shameful tactics used by those who lack integrity, honesty and respect for their follow man.
The shame of it all...
Some of you guys are apparently very frustrated people and need to get a life.
LARRY SAID: "Unemployment is rising."
Truth: Latest unemployment figures show a .2% drop in the U.S. unemployment rate.
http://www.thestar.com/business/article/...
LARRY SAID: "But, Sarah Palin's poll numbers are strengthening while President Obama's are sliding. Guess what? They're about to meet in the 40s.
Truth: Larry was comparing Obama's job approval with Palin's favorables. He was comparing apples to apricots. When you look at a comparison of favorables of both individuals, they are nowhere near each other, and Obama has a large lead.
LARRY SAID: "A new Iowa poll shows that Republicans in the state highly approve of Sarah Palin. As many as 68 percent of Iowa Republicans view Palin favorably, according to the Des Moines Register's Iowa poll beating both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney."
Truth: That same poll that Larry was celebrating states: "The first public poll to test Palin's favorabilty in the leadoff nominating state found 55 percent of all Iowans hold an unfavorable opinion of Palin a little more than a year after the last election. Only 37 percent feel favorably about her."
LARRY SAID: "Sarah Palin's book "Going Rouge" is still number one (1) on Amazon and number (1) on the New York Times Best Sellers."
Truth: Sarah Palin's book isn't titled "Going Rouge."
LARRY SAID: "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 27% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -13"
Truth: From that same poll, total Obama job approval is 47%, and total disapproval is 52%.
LARRY SAID: "As of October 15th, the Palin poll had received over 52 million votes. The "Yes" answer had 49%, the "No" answer had 49%. One interesting thing about this poll is that approximate 26 million people supported Sarah Palin."
Truth: This was an online poll which allowed people to vote as often as they like. One person could vote hundreds or thousands of times. "Approximate(ly) 26 million people supported Sarah Palin?" Not in Larry's wildest dreams.
http://www.pbs.org/now/palin-poll.html
LARRY SAID: "Hey ksand99, since you are so much smarter then the average person, how much do you think Palin has made out of selling over two million books?"
Truth: As of December 1st, when Larry made that statement, Palin's publisher announced that she had just sold 1 (one) million books, not two (2) million like Larry said.
LARRY SAID: "Boy, if ksand99 feels this bad learning that Sarah Palin has sold two million books, what in the cat hair will he be like when she reaches three million books sold?"
Truth: Yup, he doubled down on his assertion that she had sold more than two million books, contrary to published reports from Palin's own book publisher.
Does Sarah support the far-right Alaska Independence Party?
Why would she give a speech to them?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrI...
Larry's just like his idol, Sarah Palin... they have a strained relationship with the truth!
So for the record, let it be known that the candidate for vice-president for the GOP is a compulsive, repetitive, demonstrable liar. If you follow the links, here is the proof. I repeat: proof:
- She has lied about the Bridge To Nowhere. She ran for office favoring it, wore a sweatshirt defending it, and only gave it up when the federal congress, Senator McCain in particular, went ballistic. She kept the money anyway and favors funding Don Young's Way, at twice the cost of the original bridge.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th......
- She has lied about her firing of the town librarian and police chief of Wasilla, Alaska.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th......
- She has lied about pressure on Alaska's public safety commissioner to fire her ex-brother-in-law.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th......
- She has lied about her previous statements on climate change.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th......
- She has lied about Alaska's contribution to America's oil and gas production.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th......
- She has lied about when she asked her daughters for their permission for her to run for vice-president.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th......
- She has lied about the actual progress in constructing a natural gas pipeline from Alaska.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th......
- She has lied about Obama's position on habeas corpus.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th......
- She has lied about her alleged tolerance of homosexuality.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th......
- She has lied about the use or non-use of a TelePrompter at the St Paul convention.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th......
- She has lied about her alleged pay-cut as mayor of Wasilla.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th......
- She has lied about what Alaska's state scientists concluded about the health of the polar bear population in Alaska.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th......
You cannot trust a word she says. On anything.
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER
Sunday December 6, 2009
Palin book-signing draws big crowd
SIOUX CITY, Iowa -- Sarah Palin would have a ready base of hardcore fans in Iowa if the former Alaskan governor chose to run for president.
More than 500 people waited in the bitter cold or stood in long lines for hours Sunday to chat a few seconds with the former vice presidential candidate.
Most appeared to come from Iowa, but there also was a large contingent of Nebraskans.
A few camped in tents outside the store the night before, eager to be first in line.
Many said they came to show their support for a woman they believe has been badly maligned by the national media and political pundits.
"We see her as our spokesman, as a mom and as a working mom. And, part of the ugliness directed at her is what motivates us to get out and support her," said Jennie Klatt, 38, of Spencer, Iowa.
Palin came to Iowa as part of a national book-signing tour to promote her best-selling memoir, "Going Rogue." It was her first visit to Iowa since last year's presidential campaign when she ran on the GOP ticket with John McCain.
Her appearance was carefully controlled. She took no questions from reporters, and the people waiting in line were told not to take pictures.
She signed the books from behind a black curtain. Her father, Charles Heath, greeted the people before they were allowed to enter her space.
"She's signing them as fast as she can' said Anne Sexton, a "conservative" from Des Moines.
Todd Sargeant, 22, drove 12 hours from his home in Lebanon, Ohio, to get a few seconds with Palin.
Sargeant was one of about 50 people who camped out in front of the bookstore the night before, huddled around a butane heater.
"It ended up being worth it," said Sargeant. "She's an inspiration to me. She's just real."
Her only public comments came as she waved to a crowd, before she swiftly entered the bookstore.
"Hey! Thank you guys very much. See you indoors," said Palin, who was wearing knee-high purple books and a black coat.
Palin's trip into Iowa could hardly be considered a coincidence. The state is a key player in the presidential election, holding the nation's first caucus.
Speaking about not trusting a word ksand99 says, On anything...
ksand99 was trying to mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
ksand99's response: One (1) of Amazon's top 25 best sellers was only 45% off instead of 50% off like the other 24 best sellers. ksand99 thinks that this justifies his original statement but his fellow posters do not buy it.
ksand99 attempted to deceive his fellow posters. How can anyone ever believe ksand99 when he purposely manipulates the truth to deceive his friends?
ksand99's deception, manipulation and calling people liars are some of the many shameful tactics used by those who lack integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters.
The inhumanity of it all...
Larry said: "Sarah Palin's book "Going Rouge" is still number one (1) on Amazon and number (1) on the New York Times Best Sellers."
Truth: Sarah Palin's book isn't titled "Going Rouge."
Larry said: "Unemployment is rising."
Truth: Latest unemployment figures show a .2% drop in the U.S. unemployment rate.
http://www.thestar.com/business/article/...
Larry said: "But, Sarah Palin's poll numbers are strengthening while President Obama's are sliding. Guess what? They're about to meet in the 40s.
Truth: Larry was comparing Obama's job approval with Palin's favorables. He was comparing apples to apricots. When you look at a comparison of favorables of both individuals, they are nowhere near each other, and Obama has a large lead.
Larry said: "A new Iowa poll shows that Republicans in the state highly approve of Sarah Palin. As many as 68 percent of Iowa Republicans view Palin favorably, according to the Des Moines Register's Iowa poll beating both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney."
Truth: That same poll that Larry was celebrating states: "The first public poll to test Palin's favorabilty in the leadoff nominating state found 55 percent of all Iowans hold an unfavorable opinion of Palin a little more than a year after the last election. Only 37 percent feel favorably about her."
Larry said: "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 27% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -13"
Truth: From that same poll, total Obama job approval is 47%, and total disapproval is 52%.
Larry said: "As of October 15th, the Palin poll had received over 52 million votes. The "Yes" answer had 49%, the "No" answer had 49%. One interesting thing about this poll is that approximate 26 million people supported Sarah Palin."
Truth: This was an online poll which allowed people to vote as often as they like. One person could vote hundreds or thousands of times. "Approximate(ly) 26 million people supported Sarah Palin?" Not in Larry's wildest dreams.
http://www.pbs.org/now/palin-poll.html
Larry said: "Hey ksand99, since you are so much smarter then the average person, how much do you think Palin has made out of selling over two million books?"
Truth: As of December 1st, when Larry made that statement, Palin's publisher announced that she had just sold 1 (one) million books, not two (2) million like Larry said.
Larry said: "Boy, if ksand99 feels this bad learning that Sarah Palin has sold two million books, what in the cat hair will he be like when she reaches three million books sold?"
Truth: Yup, he doubled down on his assertion that she had sold more than two million books, contrary to published reports from Palin's own book publisher.
According to the poll, 28 percent of Americans say Palin is qualified to run the White House, with seven in 10 saying the former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee is not qualified.
The survey indicates that a majority of Republicans, 54 percent, feel Palin is qualified, with 44 percent indicating she isn't. But only 29 percent of independent voters questioned feel she is qualified to serve as president, with 68 percent disagreeing. According to the poll, nine in 10 Democrats feel Palin is not qualified.
PALIN: Boasts that she ran her campaign for governor on small donations, mostly from first-time givers, and turned back large checks from big donors if her campaign perceived a conflict of interest.
THE FACTS: Of the roughly $1.3 million she raised for her primary and general election campaigns for governor, more than half came from people and political action committees giving at least $500, according to an AP analysis of her campaign finance reports. The maximum that individual donors could give was $1,000; $2,000 for a PAC.
Of the rest, about $76,000 came from Republican Party committees.
She accepted $1,000 each from a state senator and his wife in the weeks after the two Republican lawmakers' offices were raided by the FBI as part of an investigation into a powerful Alaska oilfield services company. After AP reported those donations during the presidential campaign, she said she would give a comparative sum to charity after the general election in 2010, a date set by state election laws.
PALIN: Rails against taxpayer-financed bailouts, which she attributes to Obama. She recounts telling daughter Bristol that to succeed in business, "you'll have to be brave enough to fail."
THE FACTS: Palin is blurring the lines between Obama's stimulus plan -- a $787 billion package of tax cuts, state aid, social programs and government contracts -- and the federal bailout that Republican presidential candidate John McCain voted for and President George W. Bush signed.
Palin's views on bailouts appeared to evolve as McCain's vice presidential running mate. In September 2008, she said "taxpayers cannot be looked to as the bailout, as the solution, to the problems on Wall Street." A week later, she said "ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy."
During the vice presidential debate in October, Palin praised McCain for being "instrumental in bringing folks together" to pass the $700 billion bailout. After that, she said "it is a time of crisis and government did have to step in."
Today, ksand99 mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
ksand99's response: One (1) of Amazon's top 25 best sellers was only 45% off instead of 50% off like the other 24 best sellers. ksand99 thinks that this justifies his original statement but his fellow posters do not believe it.
ksand99 deceived his fellow posters and continues to deny it. How can anyone ever trust ksand99 when he purposely manipulates the truth to deceive his friends and readers?
ksand99's deception, manipulation and calling people liars are some of the many shameful tactics used by those Liberals who lack integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
LARRY SAID: "Unemployment is rising."
Truth: Latest unemployment figures show a .2% drop in the U.S. unemployment rate.
http://www.thestar.com/business/article/......
LARRY SAID: "But, Sarah Palin's poll numbers are strengthening while President Obama's are sliding. Guess what? They're about to meet in the 40s.
Truth: Larry was comparing Obama's job approval with Palin's favorables. He was comparing apples to apricots. When you look at a comparison of favorables of both individuals, they are nowhere near each other, and Obama has a large lead.
LARRY SAID: "A new Iowa poll shows that Republicans in the state highly approve of Sarah Palin. As many as 68 percent of Iowa Republicans view Palin favorably, according to the Des Moines Register's Iowa poll beating both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney."
Truth: That same poll that Larry was celebrating states: "The first public poll to test Palin's favorabilty in the leadoff nominating state found 55 percent of all Iowans hold an unfavorable opinion of Palin a little more than a year after the last election. Only 37 percent feel favorably about her."
LARRY SAID: "Sarah Palin's book "Going Rouge" is still number one (1) on Amazon and number (1) on the New York Times Best Sellers."
Truth: Sarah Palin's book isn't titled "Going Rouge."
LARRY SAID: "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 27% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -13"
Truth: From that same poll, total Obama job approval is 47%, and total disapproval is 52%.
LARRY SAID: "As of October 15th, the Palin poll had received over 52 million votes. The "Yes" answer had 49%, the "No" answer had 49%. One interesting thing about this poll is that approximate 26 million people supported Sarah Palin."
Truth: This was an online poll which allowed people to vote as often as they like. One person could vote hundreds or thousands of times. "Approximate(ly) 26 million people supported Sarah Palin?" Not in Larry's wildest dreams.
http://www.pbs.org/now/palin-poll.html
LARRY SAID: "Hey ksand99, since you are so much smarter then the average person, how much do you think Palin has made out of selling over two million books?"
Truth: As of December 1st, when Larry made that statement, Palin's publisher announced that she had just sold 1 (one) million books, not two (2) million like Larry said.
LARRY SAID: "Boy, if ksand99 feels this bad learning that Sarah Palin has sold two million books, what in the cat hair will he be like when she reaches three million books sold?"
Truth: Yup, he doubled down on his assertion that she had sold more than two million books, contrary to published reports from Palin's own book publisher.
PALIN: Says Ronald Reagan faced an even worse recession than the one that appears to be ending now, and "showed us how to get out of one. If you want real job growth, cut capital gains taxes and slay the death tax once and for all."
THE FACTS: The estate tax, which some call the death tax, was not repealed under Reagan and capital gains taxes are lower now than when Reagan was president.
Economists overwhelmingly say the current recession is far worse. The recession Reagan faced lasted for 16 months; this one is in its 23rd month. The recession of the early 1980s did not have a financial meltdown. Unemployment peaked at 10.8 percent, worse than the October 2009 high of 10.2 percent, but the jobless rate is still expected to climb.
Larry thinks that ksand99 likes him so much that he is going to write a book about him.
What should we name the book?
"Going Raunchy"
"Larry Gets Raunchy"
"Larry Going Raunchy"
"Raunchy Larry"
I kinda like "The World According to Larry"
Do you think we will need to have a fire sale and reduce the price by 45%?
Over the past few days, LarryVegas has misled the readers of this discussion by stating:
LARRY SAID: "Unemployment is rising."
Truth: Latest unemployment figures show a .2% drop in the U.S. unemployment rate.
LARRY SAID: "But, Sarah Palin's poll numbers are strengthening while President Obama's are sliding. Guess what? They're about to meet in the 40s.
Truth: Larry was comparing Obama's job approval with Palin's favorables. He was comparing apples to apricots. When you look at a comparison of favorables of both individuals, they are nowhere near each other, and Obama has a large lead.
LARRY SAID: "A new Iowa poll shows that Republicans in the state highly approve of Sarah Palin. As many as 68 percent of Iowa Republicans view Palin favorably, according to the Des Moines Register's Iowa poll beating both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney."
Truth: That same poll that Larry was celebrating states: "The first public poll to test Palin's favorabilty in the leadoff nominating state found 55 percent of all Iowans hold an unfavorable opinion of Palin a little more than a year after the last election. Only 37 percent feel favorably about her."
LARRY SAID: "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 27% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President."
Truth: From that same poll, total Obama job approval is 47%, and total disapproval is 52%.
LARRY SAID: "As of October 15th, the Palin poll had received over 52 million votes. The "Yes" answer had 49%, the "No" answer had 49%. One interesting thing about this poll is that approximate 26 million people supported Sarah Palin."
Truth: This was an online poll which allowed people to vote as often as they like. One person could vote hundreds or thousands of times. "Approximate(ly) 26 million people supported Sarah Palin?" Not in Larry's wildest dreams.
http://www.pbs.org/now/palin-poll.html
LARRY SAID: "Hey ksand99, since you are so much smarter then the average person, how much do you think Palin has made out of selling over two million books?"
Truth: As of December 1st, when Larry made that statement, Palin's publisher announced that she had just sold 1 (one) million books, not two (2) million like Larry said.
LARRY SAID, AGAIN: "Boy, if ksand99 feels this bad learning that Sarah Palin has sold two million books, what in the cat hair will he be like when she reaches three million books sold?"
LarryVegas intentionally deceived his fellow posters and continues to deny it. How can anyone ever trust LarryVegas when he purposely manipulates the truth to deceive his friends and readers?
LarryVegas's deception, manipulation and name-calling are some of the many shameful tactics used by those republicans who lack integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
He's already suffered one time out for his lies and personal attacks. I think he's probably headed for another.
PALIN: She says her team overseeing the development of a natural gas pipeline set up an open, competitive bidding process that allowed any company to compete for the right to build a 1,715-mile pipeline to bring natural gas from Alaska to the Lower 48.
THE FACTS: Palin characterized the pipeline deal the same way before an AP investigation found her team crafted terms that favored only a few independent pipeline companies and ultimately benefited a company with ties to her administration, TransCanada Corp. Despite promises and legal guidance not to talk directly with potential bidders during the process, Palin had meetings or phone calls with nearly every major candidate, including TransCanada.
Seriously... Somebody needs to call the short bus for this ksand99 guy.
ksand99 has finally lost it. It's the funny farm for him.
Please keep ksand99 away from women because I think they make him feel inadequate.
But I think he would enjoy reading Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue." I will even pay for it...
PALIN: Describing her resistance to federal stimulus money, Palin describes Alaska as a practical, libertarian haven of independent Americans who don't want "help" from government busybodies.
THE FACTS: Alaska is also one of the states most dependent on federal subsidies, receiving much more assistance from Washington than it pays in federal taxes. A study for the nonpartisan Tax Foundation found that in 2005, the state received $1.84 for every dollar it sent to Washington.
"Short bus?" Wow, LarryVegas, that's a new low, even for you.
I often wonder what type of monster would find it funny to invoke special needs children as a joke.
Now I have my answer: LarryVegas.
I wonder what Sarah Palin would think of your shameful and derogatory reference?
About the same type of monster who would find it funny to demonize women...
Now that you have your answer, take an aspirin and go to bed. Tomorrow will be a long day for you.
I wonder what your mother would think of your shameful and derogatory references to a woman who you demonize just for the sake of fulfilling your egotistic elitist mind.
Palin, as her well-attended book tour stops make clear, continues to enjoy a following that transcends politics and could potentially bring thousands of new participants into the Republican primary process.
Can you give me an example of how I've demonized "women?" Just one example would be great.
And you should really apologize to any fellow commenter who has family, friends or other loved-ones with special needs. Your "short bus" comment was disgusting and shameful.
PALIN: Writes about a city councilman in Wasilla, Alaska, who owned a garbage truck company and tried to push through an ordinance requiring residents of new subdivisions to pay for trash removal instead of taking it to the dump for free -- this to illustrate conflicts of interest she stood against as a public servant.
THE FACTS: As Wasilla mayor, Palin pressed for a special zoning exception so she could sell her family's $327,000 house, then did not keep a promise to remove a potential fire hazard on the property.
She asked the city council to loosen rules for snow machine races when she and her husband owned a snow machine store, and cast a tie-breaking vote to exempt taxes on aircraft when her father-in-law owned one.
ksand99: I do not think I would spend very much time commenting on Sarah Palin and her qualifications as she is a private citizen, not currently seeking public office.
The better question is -- does anyone think the current president is better qualified for the office?
"I do not think I would spend very much time commenting on Sarah Palin and her qualifications as she is a private citizen, not currently seeking public office."
Then why do you cite polls that measure her electability?
Sorry, Larry, you're not being truthful again.
And what "private citizen" goes on a media blitz to promote her autobiography?
You're stretching the truth again, I see.
"The better question is -- does anyone think the current president is better qualified for the office?"
It's funny to watch people desperately try to change the subject when they're outwitted.
Again, I'd love one, single example of how I've demonized "women." Sorry, but Sarah Palin's record is without regard to her gender.
Today, ksand99 purposely mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
ksand99's response: One (1) of Amazon's top 25 best sellers was only 45% off instead of 50% off like the other 24 best sellers. ksand99 thinks that this justifies his original statement but his fellow posters do not believe it.
ksand99 deceived his fellow posters and continues to deny it. How can anyone ever trust ksand99 when he purposely manipulates the truth to deceive his friends and readers?
ksand99's deception, manipulation and calling people liars are some of the many shameful tactics he uses. ksand99 lacks integrity, honesty and respect for his follow posters...
So you don't have a single example of how I've demonized "women?"
That's what I thought.
"Short bus?" Wow, LarryVegas, that's a new low, even for you.
I often wonder what type of monster would find it funny to invoke special needs children as a joke.
Now I have my answer: LarryVegas.
I wonder what Sarah Palin would think of your shameful and derogatory reference?
Over the past few days, LarryVegas has misled the readers of this discussion by stating:
LARRY SAID: "Unemployment is rising."
Truth: Latest unemployment figures show a .2% drop in the U.S. unemployment rate.
LARRY SAID: "But, Sarah Palin's poll numbers are strengthening while President Obama's are sliding. Guess what? They're about to meet in the 40s.
Truth: Larry was comparing Obama's job approval with Palin's favorables. He was comparing apples to apricots. When you look at a comparison of favorables of both individuals, they are nowhere near each other, and Obama has a large lead.
LARRY SAID: "A new Iowa poll shows that Republicans in the state highly approve of Sarah Palin. As many as 68 percent of Iowa Republicans view Palin favorably, according to the Des Moines Register's Iowa poll beating both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney."
Truth: That same poll that Larry was celebrating states: "The first public poll to test Palin's favorabilty in the leadoff nominating state found 55 percent of all Iowans hold an unfavorable opinion of Palin a little more than a year after the last election. Only 37 percent feel favorably about her."
LARRY SAID: "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 27% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President."
Truth: From that same poll, total Obama job approval is 47%, and total disapproval is 52%.
LARRY SAID: "As of October 15th, the Palin poll had received over 52 million votes. The "Yes" answer had 49%, the "No" answer had 49%. One interesting thing about this poll is that approximate 26 million people supported Sarah Palin."
Truth: This was an online poll which allowed people to vote as often as they like. One person could vote hundreds or thousands of times. "Approximate(ly) 26 million people supported Sarah Palin?" Not in Larry's wildest dreams.
http://www.pbs.org/now/palin-poll.html
LARRY SAID: "Hey ksand99, since you are so much smarter then the average person, how much do you think Palin has made out of selling over two million books?"
Truth: As of December 1st, when Larry made that statement, Palin's publisher announced that she had just sold 1 (one) million books, not two (2) million like Larry said.
LARRY SAID, AGAIN: "Boy, if ksand99 feels this bad learning that Sarah Palin has sold two million books, what in the cat hair will he be like when she reaches three million books sold?"
LarryVegas intentionally deceived his fellow posters and continues to deny it. How can anyone ever trust LarryVegas when he purposely manipulates the truth to deceive his friends and readers?
LarryVegas's deception, manipulation and name-calling are some of the many shameful tactics used by those republicans who lack integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
He's already suffered one time out for his lies and personal attacks. I think he's probably headed for another.
What's a bigger disaster? Losing an election.....Or winning one and a year later still blaming every problem on the previous administration as the recession grows even deeper?
Yesterday, ksand99 purposely mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
ksand99's response: One (1) of Amazon's top 25 best sellers was only 45% off instead of 50% off like the other 24 best sellers. ksand99 thinks that this justifies his original statement but his fellow posters do not believe it.
ksand99 deceived his fellow posters and continues to deny it. How can anyone ever trust ksand99 when he purposely manipulates the truth to deceive his friends and readers?
ksand99's deception, manipulation and calling people liars are some of the many shameful tactics he uses. ksand99 lacks integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
I have found ksand99's posts to be factual and accurate. Unfortunately, Larry would rather call people names and whine about something as arcane as a "fire sale."
Palin's supporters do this all the time. They focus on nonsense to take the focus away from their candidate.
Larry, I must say I'm quite disappointed with your joke at the expense of kids with special needs. That was beyond tasteless and you really should at least acknowledge your shame for going so low.
I know how much Sarah loves her child with special needs. It makes me wonder why someone like you, who is such an ardent supporter of Palin, would use such a derisive term as 'short bus.'
There are millions of American children who are very capable and loved and who have special needs. They do not deserve to be the butt of your jokes.
From NBC's Joey Bell
FAIRFAX, Va. -- Neither the first snow of the winter nor the slushy, untreated roads could deter hundreds of fans from coming here Saturday morning to get a copy of "Going Rogue" signed by it's author, Sarah Palin. The BJ's in the Fair Lakes Shopping Center welcomed hundreds of people to line up and wait for hours to meet the former Alaska governor and vice-presidential candidate.
People came prepared to withstand the elements. Winter coats, umbrellas and most importantly plastic shopping bags, protected their books from the chunky, wet falling flakes. Some cuddled an armful of books for their favorite hockey mom to sign.
The lines stretched down the sidewalk outside BJ's and continued across the street into the parking lot. That part of the line zig zagged multiple times giving the appearance of everyone waiting to experience the newest attraction at an amusement park.
Over the past few days, LarryVegas has misled the readers of this discussion by stating:
LARRY SAID: "Unemployment is rising."
Truth: Latest unemployment figures show a .2% drop in the U.S. unemployment rate.
LARRY SAID: "But, Sarah Palin's poll numbers are strengthening while President Obama's are sliding. Guess what? They're about to meet in the 40s.
Truth: Larry was comparing Obama's job approval with Palin's favorables. He was comparing apples to apricots. When you look at a comparison of favorables of both individuals, they are nowhere near each other, and Obama has a large lead.
LARRY SAID: "A new Iowa poll shows that Republicans in the state highly approve of Sarah Palin. As many as 68 percent of Iowa Republicans view Palin favorably, according to the Des Moines Register's Iowa poll beating both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney."
Truth: That same poll that Larry was celebrating states: "The first public poll to test Palin's favorabilty in the leadoff nominating state found 55 percent of all Iowans hold an unfavorable opinion of Palin a little more than a year after the last election. Only 37 percent feel favorably about her."
LARRY SAID: "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 27% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President."
Truth: From that same poll, total Obama job approval is 47%, and total disapproval is 52%.
LARRY SAID: "As of October 15th, the Palin poll had received over 52 million votes. The "Yes" answer had 49%, the "No" answer had 49%. One interesting thing about this poll is that approximate 26 million people supported Sarah Palin."
Truth: This was an online poll which allowed people to vote as often as they like. One person could vote hundreds or thousands of times. "Approximate(ly) 26 million people supported Sarah Palin?" Not in Larry's wildest dreams.
http://www.pbs.org/now/palin-poll.html
LARRY SAID: "Hey ksand99, since you are so much smarter then the average person, how much do you think Palin has made out of selling over two million books?"
Truth: As of December 1st, when Larry made that statement, Palin's publisher announced that she had just sold 1 (one) million books, not two (2) million like Larry said.
LARRY SAID, AGAIN: "Boy, if ksand99 feels this bad learning that Sarah Palin has sold two million books, what in the cat hair will he be like when she reaches three million books sold?"
LarryVegas intentionally deceived his fellow posters and continues to deny it. How can anyone ever trust LarryVegas when he purposely manipulates the truth to deceive his friends and readers?
LarryVegas's deception, manipulation and name-calling are some of the many shameful tactics used by those republicans who lack integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
He's already suffered one time out for his lies and personal attacks. I think he's probably headed for another.
edgewise has decided to post exact posts on two discussion forums instead of sticking to one only. So I am forced to answer him on both sites. Sorry... Larry V.
Liberal poster "edgewise" does not believe in fair and balanced posting and spins the truth so other posters on this site are not able to make their own decisions based on fact.
It appears that edgewise has joined his Liberal friend ksand99 in posting less then honest posts.
edgewise's post out of context: "Why did John McCain say Sarah Palin was "irrelevant" on Sunday? He dragged her onto the national stage and now announces that she is not relevant. Thank goodness they weren't elected."
Larry's post in context: "I think that Sarah Palin has earned herself a very big place in the Republican political scene," McCain said. "I'm proud of her. I am entertained every time I see these people attack her, and attack her and attack her. 'She's irrelevant!' -- but they continue to attack her." - John McCain
So, our Liberal haters are still twisting facts and posting in an attempt to deceive the readers of this discussion site...
Maybe "edgewise" needs to just post the full truth in context instead of distorting the truth to his fellow posters...
"edgewise has decided to post exact posts on two discussion forums instead of sticking to one only. So I am forced to answer him on both sites. Sorry... Larry V."
What are you talking about?
Larry continues to go to bat for Sarah Palin, using falsehoods, lies and exaggerations to support his bogus claims.
It seems like he is taking after Sarah Palin and employing the same disgusting tactics that she uses, and have even been found in her new book.
"Sarah Palin's new book reprises familiar claims from the 2008 presidential campaign that haven't become any truer over time."
"Ignoring substantial parts of her record if not the facts, she depicts herself as a frugal traveler on the taxpayer's dime, a reformer without ties to powerful interests and a politician roguishly indifferent to high ambition."
"Palin goes adrift, at times, on more contemporary issues, too. She criticizes President Barack Obama for pushing through a bailout package that actually was achieved by his Republican predecessor George W. Bush -- a package she seemed to support at the time."
ksand99 deceived his fellow posters and continues to deny it. How can anyone ever trust ksand99 when he purposely manipulates the truth to deceive his friends and readers?
"edgewise has decided to post exact posts on two discussion forums instead of sticking to one only. So I am forced to answer him on both sites. Sorry... Larry V."
What are you talking about, Larry?
Over the past few days, LarryVegas has repeatedly misled the readers of this site by stating:
LARRY SAID: "Unemployment is rising."
Truth: Latest unemployment figures show a .2% drop in the U.S. unemployment rate.
LARRY SAID: "But, Sarah Palin's poll numbers are strengthening while President Obama's are sliding. Guess what? They're about to meet in the 40s.
Truth: Larry was comparing Obama's job approval with Palin's favorables. He was comparing apples to apricots. When you look at a comparison of favorables of both individuals, they are nowhere near each other, and Obama has a large lead.
LARRY SAID: "A new Iowa poll shows that Republicans in the state highly approve of Sarah Palin. As many as 68 percent of Iowa Republicans view Palin favorably, according to the Des Moines Register's Iowa poll beating both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney."
Truth: That same poll that Larry was celebrating states: "The first public poll to test Palin's favorabilty in the leadoff nominating state found 55 percent of all Iowans hold an unfavorable opinion of Palin a little more than a year after the last election. Only 37 percent feel favorably about her."
LARRY SAID: "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 27% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President."
Truth: From that same poll, total Obama job approval is 47%, and total disapproval is 52%.
LARRY SAID: "As of October 15th, the Palin poll had received over 52 million votes. The "Yes" answer had 49%, the "No" answer had 49%. One interesting thing about this poll is that approximate 26 million people supported Sarah Palin."
Truth: This was an online poll which allowed people to vote as often as they like. One person could vote hundreds or thousands of times. "Approximate(ly) 26 million people supported Sarah Palin?" Not in Larry's wildest dreams.
http://www.pbs.org/now/palin-poll.html
LARRY SAID: "Hey ksand99, since you are so much smarter then the average person, how much do you think Palin has made out of selling over two million books?"
Truth: As of December 1st, when Larry made that statement, Palin's publisher announced that she had just sold 1 (one) million books, not two (2) million like Larry said.
LARRY SAID, AGAIN: "Boy, if ksand99 feels this bad learning that Sarah Palin has sold two million books, what in the cat hair will he be like when she reaches three million books sold?"
LarryVegas intentionally deceived his fellow posters and continues to deny it. How can anyone ever trust LarryVegas when he purposely manipulates the truth to deceive his friends and readers?
LarryVegas's deception, manipulation and name-calling are some of the many shameful tactics used by those republicans who lack integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
He's already suffered one time out for his lies & personal attacks. Is he headed for another?
ksand99 purposely mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
ksand99's response: One (1) of Amazon's top 25 best sellers was only 45% off instead of 50% off like the other 24 best sellers. ksand99 thinks that this justifies his original statement but his fellow posters do not believe it.
ksand99's deception, manipulation and calling people liars are some of the many shameful tactics he uses. ksand99 lacks integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
ksand99 deceived his fellow posters so how can anyone ever trust ksand99 when he purposely manipulates the truth to deceive his friends and readers?
I think that the LV SUN editors should close out this site, as most comments are not relevant to the discussion...
I think that the LV SUN editors should close out this discussion topic, as most comments are not relevant to the discussion...
What are you talking about here, Larry?
"edgewise has decided to post exact posts on two discussion forums instead of sticking to one only. So I am forced to answer him on both sites. Sorry... Larry V."
Palin claimed to have stood up to Congress on the subject of the infamous "Bridge to Nowhere," the Gravina Island bridge in Ketchikan, Alaska, about which we wrote last November.
Palin: I told the Congress, "Thanks, but no thanks," on that bridge to nowhere.
This is not the first time Palin has cited her choice to kill the bridge in 2007 as an example of her anti-waste stance. It's true that she did eventually nix the project. But the bridge was nearly dead already -- Congress had removed the earmark, giving the requested money to the state but not marking it for any specific use. Palin unplugged its life support, declaring in 2007 that the funds would not be used for the Gravina bridge.
When she was running for governor, however, Palin expressed a different position. In 2006, the Ketchikan Daily News quoted her expressing optimism and support for the bridge at a Ketchikan campaign stop.
Palin, 2006: "People across the nation struggle with the idea of building a bridge because they've been under these misperceptions about the bridge and the purpose," said Palin, who described the link as the Ketchikan area's potential for expansion and growth. " Palin said Alaska's congressional delegation worked hard to obtain funding for the bridge as part of a package deal and that she "would not stand in the way of the progress toward that bridge."
Palin also answered "yes" to an Anchorage Daily News poll question about whether she would continue to support state funding for the Gravina Island bridge if elected governor. "The window is now," she wrote, "while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist." It was only after she won the governorship that Palin shifted her position. And even then, it's inaccurate to say that she "told the Congress 'thanks, but no thanks.'" Palin accepted non-earmarked money from Congress that could have been used for the bridge if she so desired. That she opted to use it for other state transportation purposes doesn't qualify as standing up to Congress.
The bridge reversal is not the only matter throwing doubt on Palin's credentials as a government waste reformer. Watchdog group Taxpayers for Common Sense has reported that the small town of Wasilla, Alaska, which had not previously received significant federal funds, hauled in almost $27 million in earmarks while Palin was mayor. (McCain has explicitly criticized several of the Wasilla earmarks in recent years.) To help obtain these earmarks, Palin had hired Steven Silver, the former chief of staff for recently indicted Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, as Wasilla's lobbyist.
And Palin continued to solicit federal funds as governor. A request form on Stevens' Web site shows that she requested $160.5 million in earmarks for the state in 2008, and almost $198 million for 2009.
PALIN: Criticizes an aide to her predecessor, Gov. Frank Murkowski, for a conflict of interest because the aide represented the state in negotiations over a gas pipeline and then left to work as a handsomely paid lobbyist for ExxonMobil. Palin asserts her administration ended all such arrangements, shoving a wedge in the revolving door between special interests and the state capital.
THE FACTS: Palin ignores her own "revolving door" issue in office; the leader of her own pipeline team was a former lobbyist for a subsidiary of TransCanada, the company that ended up winning the rights to build the pipeline.
"And Palin continued to solicit federal funds as governor. A request form on Stevens' Web site shows that she requested $160.5 million in earmarks for the state in 2008, and almost $198 million for 2009."
Yeowza! Palin hates pork, except for the pork she demands as governor!
"I think that the LV SUN editors should close out this discussion site, as most comments are not relevant to the discussion..."
There's still a lot more to talk about.
I guess you would rather not talk about Palin's earmark demands, her exploding budgets, the debt she left Wasilla with, the boondoggle skating rink she left behind in Wasilla, the factual errors in her book, the numerous ethics investigations, etc.
If you want to throw in the towel, go ahead. I think the real discussion is just getting started.
THERE WILL BE NO REAL DISCUSSION ON THIS DISCUSSION SITE because ksand99 and edgewise do not know what real discussion is.
ksand99 purposely mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
ksand99's response: One (1) of Amazon's top 25 best sellers was only 45% off instead of 50% off like the other 24 best sellers. ksand99 thinks that this justifies his original statement but his fellow posters do not believe it.
edgewise has joined his Liberal friend ksand99 in posting less then honest posts.
edgewise's post out of context: "Why did John McCain say Sarah Palin was "irrelevant" on Sunday? He dragged her onto the national stage and now announces that she is not relevant. Thank goodness they weren't elected."
Larry's post in context: "I think that Sarah Palin has earned herself a very big place in the Republican political scene," McCain said. "I'm proud of her. I am entertained every time I see these people attack her, and attack her and attack her. 'She's irrelevant!' -- but they continue to attack her." - John McCain
ksand99 and edgewise deception, manipulation and calling people liars are some of the many shameful tactics he uses. ksand99 and edgewise lacks the integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
ksand99 and edgewise deceived his fellow posters so how can anyone ever trust them when they purposely manipulate the truth to deceive their friends and readers?
"THERE WILL BE NO REAL DISCUSSION ON THIS DISCUSSION SITE because ksand99 and edgewise do not know what real discussion is."
Larry, I've tried to engage you in discussion. I've asked you direct questions and have yet to receive answers.
You really do like to talk about Palin's book sales, though. One might say that just repeating her book sales isn't "discussion" or "DISCUSSION." But I'll give you a pass on that one.
So, let's start fresh. Do you support Palin's requests for $160.5 million in earmarks for Alaska in 2008, and almost $198 million for 2009, even after she declared she was against wasteful pork barrel spending?
If so, why? If not, why not?
THERE WILL BE NO REAL DISCUSSION ON THIS DISCUSSION SITE because ksand99 and edgewise have no idea what HONEST discussion is.
I'm willing to have an honest discussion with you, Larry. But you do not seem willing to discuss anything. You keep repeating yourself. If you would like to have an honest discussion, please let me know.
I will ask you again, I guess.
Do you support Palin's requests for $160.5 million in earmarks for Alaska in 2008, and almost $198 million for 2009, even after she declared she was against wasteful pork barrel spending?
If so, why? If not, why not?
edgewise and ksand99 purposely mislead readers and other posters on this discussion site. They are not honest enough to engage in any meaningful discussion.
ksand99 purposely mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
ksand99's response: One (1) of Amazon's top 25 best sellers was only 45% off instead of 50% off like the other 24 best sellers. ksand99 thinks that this justifies his original statement but his fellow posters do not believe it.
edgewise has joined his Liberal friend ksand99 in posting less then honest posts.
edgewise's post out of context: "Why did John McCain say Sarah Palin was "irrelevant" on Sunday? He dragged her onto the national stage and now announces that she is not relevant. Thank goodness they weren't elected."
Larry's post in context: "I think that Sarah Palin has earned herself a very big place in the Republican political scene," McCain said. "I'm proud of her. I am entertained every time I see these people attack her, and attack her and attack her. 'She's irrelevant!' -- but they continue to attack her." - John McCain
ksand99 and edgewise deception, manipulation and calling people liars are some of the many shameful tactics he uses. ksand99 and edgewise lacks the integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
ksand99 and edgewise purposely deceived their fellow posters, so how can anyone ever trust them when they purposely manipulate the truth to deceive their friends and readers?
Oh, ok. I get it. You don't want to actually discuss anything, Larry. You want to attack people. If you would just be honest about that, you would save everyone some time.
Larry, I have another question for you, since you know so much about Sarah Palin and her record.
Do you support Palin's assertion that gaming is harmful? She said: "...in so many cases, gambling has shown ill effects on families and as Governor I would not propose expansion legislation." Asked if she would you sign any bills that expand gaming in Alaska, Palin responded, "No."
Do you think Palin would be a bad leader for Nevada with that anti-gaming point-of-view?
LarryVegas purposely misleads readers and other posters on this discussion site. He is not honest enough to engage in any meaningful discussion.
LarryVegas purposely mislead the readers of this discussion.
LarryVegas's post:Sarah Palin's favorable rating has risen to 46 percent while President Obama's favorable rating has decreased to 47 percent.
The truth: President Obama's favorability is not the same as his job approval numbers. LarryVegas is making a comparison between two different measures. When you compare Obama's favorability to Palin's favorability, Obama has a clear lead.
Of course, a comparison between Palin's job approval and Obama's is not possible, as Palin quit her job as Governor of Alaska.
LarryVegas' deception, manipulation and calling people names are some of the many shameful tactics he uses. LarryVegas lacks the integrity, honesty and respect for their fellow posters...
LarryVegas purposely deceived our fellow posters, so how can anyone ever trust him when he purposely manipulate the truth to deceive his friends and readers?
Larry's entire argument is based on bunk. Read this:
http://www.slate.com/id/2236604/
LarryVegas purposely misleads readers and other posters on this discussion site. He is not honest enough to engage in any meaningful discussion.
LarryVegas purposely mislead the readers of this discussion.
LarryVegas's post:Sarah Palin's favorable rating has risen to 46 percent while President Obama's favorable rating has decreased to 47 percent.
The truth: President Obama's favorability is not the same as his job approval numbers. LarryVegas is making a comparison between two different measures. When you compare Obama's favorability to Palin's favorability, Obama has a clear lead.
Of course, a comparison between Palin's job approval and Obama's is not possible, as Palin quit her job as Governor of Alaska.
LarryVegas' deception, manipulation and calling people names are some of the many shameful tactics he uses. LarryVegas lacks the integrity, honesty and respect for their fellow posters...
LarryVegas purposely deceived our fellow posters, so how can anyone ever trust him when he purposely manipulate the truth to deceive his friends and readers?
I WILL NOT HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH EDGEWISE OR KSAND99 AS BOTH LACK THE MORAL INTEGRITY TO HAVE A HONEST DISCUSSION.
edgewise and ksand99 purposely mislead readers and other posters on this discussion site. They are not honest enough to engage in any meaningful discussion.
ksand99 purposely mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
ksand99's response: One (1) of Amazon's top 25 best sellers was only 45% off instead of 50% off like the other 24 best sellers. ksand99 thinks that this justifies his original statement but his fellow posters do not believe it.
edgewise has joined his Liberal friend ksand99 in posting less then honest posts.
edgewise's post out of context: "Why did John McCain say Sarah Palin was "irrelevant" on Sunday? He dragged her onto the national stage and now announces that she is not relevant. Thank goodness they weren't elected."
Larry's post in context: "I think that Sarah Palin has earned herself a very big place in the Republican political scene," McCain said. "I'm proud of her. I am entertained every time I see these people attack her, and attack her and attack her. 'She's irrelevant!' -- but they continue to attack her." - John McCain
ksand99 and edgewise deception, manipulation and calling people liars are some of the many shameful tactics he uses. ksand99 and edgewise lacks the integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
ksand99 and edgewise purposely deceived their fellow posters, so how can anyone ever trust them when they purposely manipulate the truth to deceive their friends and readers?
It's funny to watch LarryVegas mention dirty politics. He is apparently the expert at it.
The great "liberal" label inspires hatred and anger among the right-wing party of NO! They seethe and despise anyone who dares to look out for our fellow man.
The dirty politics of those who malign liberals is in evidence on this post, when LarryVegas cite's Obama's favorability, he's actually referring to his job approval, two very distinct polling figures which do not correlate.
The dirty politics of those who malign liberals is in evidence with LarryVegas' posts. He would rather try to deceive and attack his fellow commenters than post with honesty or integrity.
The great liberal label will live on long after the hatred and vicious smears of the party of NO! are exposed.
Over the past few days, LarryVegas has repeatedly misled the readers of this site by stating:
LARRY SAID: "Unemployment is rising."
Truth: Latest unemployment figures show a .2% drop in the U.S. unemployment rate.
LARRY SAID: "But, Sarah Palin's poll numbers are strengthening while President Obama's are sliding. Guess what? They're about to meet in the 40s.
Truth: Larry was comparing Obama's job approval with Palin's favorables. He was comparing apples to apricots. When you look at a comparison of favorables of both individuals, they are nowhere near each other, and Obama has a large lead.
LARRY SAID: "A new Iowa poll shows that Republicans in the state highly approve of Sarah Palin. As many as 68 percent of Iowa Republicans view Palin favorably, according to the Des Moines Register's Iowa poll beating both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney."
Truth: That same poll that Larry was celebrating states: "The first public poll to test Palin's favorabilty in the leadoff nominating state found 55 percent of all Iowans hold an unfavorable opinion of Palin a little more than a year after the last election. Only 37 percent feel favorably about her."
LARRY SAID: "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 27% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President."
Truth: From that same poll, total Obama job approval is 47%, and total disapproval is 52%.
LARRY SAID: "As of October 15th, the Palin poll had received over 52 million votes. The "Yes" answer had 49%, the "No" answer had 49%. One interesting thing about this poll is that approximate 26 million people supported Sarah Palin."
Truth: This was an online poll which allowed people to vote as often as they like. One person could vote hundreds or thousands of times. "Approximate(ly) 26 million people supported Sarah Palin?" Not in Larry's wildest dreams.
http://www.pbs.org/now/palin-poll.html
LARRY SAID: "Hey ksand99, since you are so much smarter then the average person, how much do you think Palin has made out of selling over two million books?"
Truth: As of December 1st, when Larry made that statement, Palin's publisher announced that she had just sold 1 (one) million books, not two (2) million like Larry said.
LARRY SAID, AGAIN: "Boy, if ksand99 feels this bad learning that Sarah Palin has sold two million books, what in the cat hair will he be like when she reaches three million books sold?"
LarryVegas intentionally deceived his fellow posters and continues to deny it. How can anyone ever trust LarryVegas when he purposely manipulates the truth to deceive his friends and readers?
LarryVegas's deception, manipulation and name-calling are some of the many shameful tactics used by those republicans who lack integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
He's already suffered one time out for his lies & personal attacks. Is he headed for yet another?
"The inexperienced Alaska governor wowed the party's conservative base with her image as a plain-talking, happy-hunting hockey mom when John McCain nominated her a month ago."
"But now even conservative commentators are admitting that she is not ready for the White House, after her uncertain performance with top CBS News presenter Katie Couric."
Though she did not commit a one-line gaffe, many of her answers were rambling, vague and ill-informed, while she appeared nervous and like an actor struggling to remember her lines.
Questioned about her boast that being governor of a state that borders the frozen wastes of eastern Russia added to her understanding of foreign policy, she said: "As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It's Alaska."
"Asked if the US financial crisis was leading the country towards another Great Depression, her reply was: "Not necessarily this, as it's been proposed, has to pass or we're going to find ourselves in another Great Depression. But, there has got to be action - bipartisan effort - Congress not pointing fingers at one another but finding the solution to this, taking action..."
"Having claimed that Mr McCain, the Republican's presidential candidate, had a strong record of supporting more financial regulation during his 26 years in the Senate, she could not name one example and resorted to saying: "I'll try to find you some, and I'll bring them to you."
"Ed Rollins, who managed Ronald Reagan's landslide victory in 1984, said: "I would let her do fundraisers, I would send her to the party base. I wouldn't put her in many more interviews like this."
Have I mentioned her love of earmarks, and her lies about fighting them? It turns out, as mayor of Wasilla, she hired a lobbyist to go to Washington to bring earmarks back to Alaska.
And she supported the Bridge to Nowhere... she even accepted the cash that was earmarked for it!
She's got a problem with the truth... like some other republicans I know.
I'm also curious about all those ethics laws that she was accused of violating.
"In a 263-page report released by Alaska's Legislative Council following a six-hour closed doors hearing, investigator Steve Branchflower said Governor Palin was guilty of violating state ethics rules for public officials."
"I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110 (a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act," Branchflower wrote in the report."
It's a shame she couldn't respect her office. Lucky for the citizens of Alaska, the job as Governor was too much for her to handle, so she quit.
There's also the ethics violation that made her repay the state of Alaska for travel she charged them for that she shouldn't have.
"Media reports that Palin had charged the state thousands of dollars on commercial travel for her daughters that was not necessary for official state business was followed by an October ethics complaint over that allegation."
Man, why would anyone support someone who is that unethical?
I guess that's why she's so unpopular, right Larry?
Sarah Palin made the poor judgment to beg Washington for millions in earmarks, and then lie to the country by telling us she was a crusader against pork.
I WILL NOT HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH EDGEWISE OR KSAND99 AS BOTH LACK THE MORAL INTEGRITY TO HAVE ANY TYPE OF HONEST DISCUSSION.
edgewise and ksand99 purposely mislead readers and other posters on this discussion site. They are not honest enough to engage in any meaningful discussion.
ksand99 purposely mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
ksand99's response: One (1) of Amazon's top 25 best sellers was only 45% off instead of 50% off like the other 24 best sellers. ksand99 thinks that this justifies his original statement but his fellow posters do not believe it.
edgewise has joined his Liberal friend ksand99 in posting less then honest posts.
edgewise's post out of context: "Why did John McCain say Sarah Palin was "irrelevant" on Sunday? He dragged her onto the national stage and now announces that she is not relevant. Thank goodness they weren't elected."
Larry's post in context: "I think that Sarah Palin has earned herself a very big place in the Republican political scene," McCain said. "I'm proud of her. I am entertained every time I see these people attack her, and attack her and attack her. 'She's irrelevant!' -- but they continue to attack her." - John McCain
ksand99 and edgewise deception, manipulation and calling people liars are some of the many shameful tactics he uses. ksand99 and edgewise lacks the integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
ksand99 and edgewise purposely deceived their fellow posters, so how can anyone ever trust them when they purposely manipulate the truth to deceive their friends and readers?
Sarah Palin made the poor judgment to raise taxes on the oil companies in a bad economy... while people in the lower-48 were suffering with sky-high gas prices, Palin was overcharging.
So typical of them to be drowning in the facts: that her lies and misrepresentations reveal she is not some "Washington outsider," nor an "independent thinker." She is the quintessential politician who claims to be above the fray when really she's so mired in muck.
When they encounter someone who knows how much of a liar and hypocrite Sarah Palin is, they can't answer the charges, just whine and moan and throw phony allegations.
"According to the latest poll numbers, Sarah Palin is nearly as popular as Barack Obama. Or maybe it's that Barack Obama is nearly as unpopular as Sarah Palin. At least that's how some commentators see it: As the Los Angeles Times' Andrew Malcolm noted Monday, "Sarah Palin's poll numbers are strengthening. And President Obama's are sliding." In Tuesday's Washington Post, former Bush strategist Matthew Dowd wrote that "Palin's favorability numbers are a mirror image of those of Obama."
"The problem is, they're comparing apples to oranges. Both columns refer to polls that show Palin's favorability rating at around 43 percent--mere points away from Obama's job-approval rating of 49 percent. But as Media Matters has pointed out, favorability and job approval aren't the same thing. A politician's favorability rating is a general sense of the public's feeling about him. His job-approval rating is an evaluation of the work he's doing."
"When you compare favorability ratings--apples to apples--Obama still leads Palin by a distance. The latest Gallup poll puts Obama's favorability 16 points ahead of Palin's, ABC puts his lead at 18 points, and CNN says it's 18 points higher. (Only Fox has the gap in single digits, with a seven-point spread.) It's impossible to compare their job-approval numbers because, well, Palin doesn't have a job."
http://www.slate.com/id/2236604/
"During her term in office, Palin cut property taxes and other small taxes on business. But as the Anchorage Daily News points out, "She wasn't doing this by shrinking government." During her tenure, the budget of Wasilla (population 5,469 in 2000) "apart from capital projects and debt, rose from $3.9 million in fiscal 1996 to $5.8 million."
"Palin also successfully pushed through a sales tax increase in Wasilla, which went to fund a $15 million sports complex. However, a land dispute over the sight of the complex led to "years of legal wrangling" and cost Wasilla almost $1.7 million, "a lot more than the roughly $125,000 the city would have paid in 1998 if it had closed a deal to buy the property outright." Wasilla is still facing budget shortfalls from the case today."
Sergio...
I think you are right on target. Sarah Palin's favorable rating has risen to 46 percent while President Obama's favorable rating has decreased to 47 percent.
I'm getting faster and faster... 800 and up...
LarryVegas thinks no one cares about Palin's record as Governor and as Mayor.
Of course they care, Larry!
They care that a fiscal conservative drove the small town of Wasilla into debt while raising the sales tax and creating a huge boondoggle of a project that still requires taxpayer subsidies.
They care that Sarah Palin's book fails fact check after fact check on some basic, mundane facts.
They care about Palin's many questionable ethical problems that follow her around from Mayor to Governor.
They care about her history of criminality and drug use. Her fan club loves to hold her up as an idol of American values. What idol of American values smokes pot?
They care about her wacky, unsure responses to questions about Russia, Israel and Palestine, and questions that even a freshman Congressman/woman could answer that Palin struggles with.
I've offered fact after fact after fact that you have failed to dispute. I've offered tons of sources, of learned opinions, and questions that no one has been able to answer about Sarah Palin.
"I WILL NOT HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH EDGEWISE OR KSAND99"
Wow, all caps? I'm driving you berzerk, I see. As GWB would say, "Mission Accomplished!"
Did I mention this ethical scandal before? I forget:
As Mayor, Palin Used City Resources For Her 2002 Lt. Governor Campaign. In her 2002 Lt. Governor bid, Mayor Palin used city employees, telephones, computers, fax machines for campaign fundraising and literature. On her candidate registration form, she used her City Hall fax number, and her mayoral e-mail address. Records show that Wasilla city property was used to contact supporters, donors, media contacts, and media purchasing. [Anchorage Daily News, 7/21/06]
People love Sarah Palin? Why are her unfavorables so much higher than Obama's?
Why are her favorables so much lower than Obama's?
Truth-o-meter says: Sergio's dishonest.
edgewise and ksand99 purposely mislead readers and other posters on this discussion site. They are not honest enough to engage in any meaningful discussion.
ksand99 purposely mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
ksand99's response: One (1) of Amazon's top 25 best sellers was only 45% off instead of 50% off like the other 24 best sellers. ksand99 thinks that this justifies his original statement but his fellow posters do not believe it.
edgewise has joined his Liberal friend ksand99 in posting less then honest posts.
edgewise's post out of context: "Why did John McCain say Sarah Palin was "irrelevant" on Sunday? He dragged her onto the national stage and now announces that she is not relevant. Thank goodness they weren't elected."
Larry's post in context: "I think that Sarah Palin has earned herself a very big place in the Republican political scene," McCain said. "I'm proud of her. I am entertained every time I see these people attack her, and attack her and attack her. 'She's irrelevant!' -- but they continue to attack her." - John McCain
ksand99 and edgewise deception, manipulation and calling people liars are some of the many shameful tactics he uses. ksand99 and edgewise lacks the integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
ksand99 and edgewise purposely deceived their fellow posters, so how can anyone ever trust these guys when they purposely manipulate the truth to deceive their friends and readers?
I commend Interior Secretary Salazar's decision today to conditionally approve drilling at three exploratory wells in the Chukchi Sea off the northwest coast of Alaska; it's a decision that's been a long time coming. The area north of the Arctic Circle contains some of the world's richest oil and gas reserves. U.S. Geological Survey researchers estimate that it contains 1.6 trillion cubic feet of natural gas and 83 billion barrels of undiscovered oil.
The international community recognizes the potential of Arctic off-shore drilling; it's about time our government allowed us to compete with them by developing these rich reserves in an environmentally responsible way. As I said last April in my testimony before the Secretary during a federal hearing in Anchorage, "Alaska's oil and gas resources can and should be a major part of the implementation of any creditable energy plan for our nation. Alaska has proven that these resources can be developed safely, but Arctic exploration and development is a slow, demanding process. Delays or major restrictions in accessing these resources for environmentally responsible development are not in the national interest or the interests of the State of Alaska."
As an Alaskan and an American, I am very grateful for the decision today because it is a step in the right direction toward prosperity for Alaska and energy independence and security for America.
- Sarah Palin
Larry has made accusations that I am dishonest. Any exploration of his posts reveal he's far worse...
LARRY SAID: "Unemployment is rising."
Truth: Latest unemployment figures show a .2% drop in the U.S. unemployment rate.
LARRY SAID: "But, Sarah Palin's poll numbers are strengthening while President Obama's are sliding. Guess what? They're about to meet in the 40s.
Truth: Larry was comparing Obama's job approval with Palin's favorables. He was comparing apples to apricots. When you look at a comparison of favorables of both individuals, they are nowhere near each other, and Obama has a large lead.
LARRY SAID: "A new Iowa poll shows that Republicans in the state highly approve of Sarah Palin. As many as 68 percent of Iowa Republicans view Palin favorably, according to the Des Moines Register's Iowa poll beating both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney."
Truth: That same poll that Larry was celebrating states: "The first public poll to test Palin's favorabilty in the leadoff nominating state found 55 percent of all Iowans hold an unfavorable opinion of Palin a little more than a year after the last election. Only 37 percent feel favorably about her."
LARRY SAID: "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 27% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President."
Truth: From that same poll, total Obama job approval is 47%, and total disapproval is 52%.
LARRY SAID: "As of October 15th, the Palin poll had received over 52 million votes. The "Yes" answer had 49%, the "No" answer had 49%. One interesting thing about this poll is that approximate 26 million people supported Sarah Palin."
Truth: This was an online poll which allowed people to vote as often as they like. One person could vote hundreds or thousands of times. "Approximate(ly) 26 million people supported Sarah Palin?" Not in Larry's wildest dreams.
http://www.pbs.org/now/palin-poll.html
LARRY SAID: "Hey ksand99, since you are so much smarter then the average person, how much do you think Palin has made out of selling over two million books?"
Truth: As of December 1st, when Larry made that statement, Palin's publisher announced that she had just sold 1 (one) million books, not two (2) million like Larry said.
LARRY SAID, AGAIN: "Boy, if ksand99 feels this bad learning that Sarah Palin has sold two million books, what in the cat hair will he be like when she reaches three million books sold?"
LarryVegas intentionally deceived his fellow posters and continues to deny it. How can anyone ever trust LarryVegas when he purposely manipulates the truth to deceive his friends and readers?
LarryVegas's deception, manipulation and name-calling are some of the many shameful tactics used by those republicans who lack integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
He's already suffered one time out for his lies & personal attacks. Is he headed for another?
There is no limit to what the Palin haters will do...
Jeremy Olson decided that instead of expressing his feelings in a productive, calm and rational manner that he'd throw tomatoes at Sarah Palin today. Conservatives are the ones who promote violence and lower the level of debate in America, though. The mainstream media told us that most of the summer, as I recall. At any rate, Jeremy the Pathetic missed Gov. Palin (by a wide margin) and hit a police officer. He was arrested on suspicion of assault and disorderly conduct, and may be charged with assaulting a police officer. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
Des Moines Conservative Examiner.
There are no polls to prove it yet, but Sarah Palin is the new frontrunner for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination. Mike Huckabee's admission that he is "less than likely" to run, followed by the disastrous news of his commutation of Maurice Clemmons prison sentence in Arkansas, leaves Palin at the front of the pack.
Two weeks ago, an Iowa poll showed Palin trailing Huckabee by just two points, 70% to 68%, in favorability ratings among Iowa Republicans. She easily outdistanced Mitt Romney, who garnered only 58 percent. Despite a media onslaught attempting to spin the Clemmons story, Huckabee's credibility has taken a serious hit. Even those who boosted him to victory in the 2008 Iowa Caucus are questioning the former Arkansas governor's judgment.
That means Sarah Palin is the new frontrunner in Iowa. A victory here could vault her to the GOP nomination. Only Palin knows if she has any intentions of running in 2012, but if she does, there are legions of very loyal fans lined up to support her. This was evidenced Sunday in Sioux City, where some fans camped out overnight in frigid temperatures to guarantee their chance to meet Palin at a book signing.
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The Gallup daily presidential tracking poll today found President Barack Obama hitting a new low, with just 47 percent of Americans saying that approve of his job performance. A new high of 46 percent of Americans now say they disapprove of Obama's actions since taking over the White House.
Obama suffered a net four percentage point loss of support -- a noticeably sharp decline for a tracking poll that normally doesn't move either way more than one or two percent.
The poll comes after Obama spent the weekend pushing members of the Senate to support the government-run health care plan, which currently funds abortions and opens the door to mandating that insurance plans pay for abortions.
Although the Gallup poll shows Obama with a positive approval rating of one percent, the poll is conducted of adults nationwide.
When examining the views of likely voters, polling data shows Obama at a negative approval rating among all Americans -- with significantly lower marks from both Republicans and independents.
The Rasmussen Reports daily presidential tracking poll shows 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of Obama's performance while 50 percent disapprove.
Looking at the approval numbers only of voters who show the most passionate views for or against Obama's performance, Rasmussen finds Americans much more opposed than supportive.
Just 27 percent of voters strongly approve of Obama's job to this point while 38 percent strongly disapprove.
"It is important to remember that the Rasmussen Reports job approval ratings are based upon a sample of likely voters. Some other firms base their approval ratings on samples of all adults. President Obama's numbers are always several points higher in a poll of adults rather than likely voters," pollster Scott Rasmussen explains.
According to Real Clear Politics, an average of the last seven national polls finds a collective 49 percent approval rating for Obama and a 45.1 percent disapproval rating.
The average includes the Rasmussen and Gallup surveys along with those of CNN, USA Today, Fox News, and CBS News.
Fox found a 46-46 percent approval rating, USA Today had Obama's approval at 50 to 44 percent, CNN showed Obama down at 48-50 percent, and a seventh poll from the Democracy Corps polling firm, run by Democrats, with Obama up 50-44 percent.
Only the Gallup, Rasmussen and CNN polls were conducted in December and they show Obama at 48 percent when combined and a 48.7 percent disapproval rating.
Rasmusssen also finds a majority of Americans oppose the pro-abortion Congressional health care plans while just 41 percent favor it and only 23 percent strongly favor it.
President Obama's job approval rating has hit a new low, even as Sarah Palin's popularity appears to be on the rebound, new polls show.
The latest USA Today/Gallup Poll puts Mr. Obama's job approval rating at 47 percent, a new low for his 10-month administration. His job approval ratings rose briefly after last week's announcement of a new policy in Afghanistan but then fell back in Dec. 4-6 polling, Gallup said.
Gallup reported finding significant opposition both to Obama's policies on healthcare reform and on Afghanistan.
Strong partisan feelings
The partisan split is deep and wide in Obama's approval ratings. Fourteen percent of Republicans approve of Obama's performance, versus 42 percent of independents and 83 percent of Democrats, Gallup found. Since November, when the president's approval rating was 53 percent, his poll numbers have fallen three percentage points among Democrats, seven points among independents, and four points among Republicans, Gallup said.
As for Sarah Palin, the 2008 Republican vice-presidential candidate, 46 percent of Americans have a favorable view of her and 46 percent have an unfavorable view, according to a new poll by CNN/Opinion Research Corp. Those figures represent progress for Ms. Palin: When she resigned as Alaska's governor in July, her favorability rating in CNN's poll dropped to 39 percent.
The partisan divide in Palin's favorability ratings is sharp. Among Republicans, 8 in 10 have a favorable view of Palin, who is now drawing large crowds as she tours the US selling her book "Going Rogue: An American Life." But more than 7 in 10 Democrats hold negative views of Palin. Independents are evenly divided on her, CNN found.
"John McCain put Palin on his ticket in 2008 to appeal to female voters, but it looks like men are a natural constituency for her," CNN polling director Keating Holland said in a statement. According to the poll, 51 percent of men see Palin in a positive light, whereas a nearly equal number of women view her negatively.
According to Mr. Holland, "even within GOP circles, Republican men like Palin more than Republican women."
The CNN poll was conducted Dec. 2-3 with 1,041 adult Americans contacted by phone. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. The Gallup poll was conducted Dec. 4-6 with 1,529 adults and also has a 3-percentage-point margin of error.
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sarah Palin has erased her drop in the polls that followed her resignation as Alaska governor, according to new national survey.
But when it comes to opinions of Palin, the CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Monday suggests a partisan divide and a gender gap.
The survey indicates that Americans are split on Palin, with 46 percent saying they have a favorable opinion of last year's Republican vice presidential nominee and an equal amount saying they have an unfavorable view of her.
Palin resigned as Alaska governor in July, with a year and a half left in her first term. She attributed the decision to tremendous pressure, time and the financial burden of a litany of ethics complaints in the past several months, complaints Palin said were without merit and took away from the job she wanted to do for Alaskans.
After her resignation, Palin's favorable rating dropped to 39 percent in CNN polling, but her popularity is now back to the same level it was before she stepped down. The former governor is in the middle of a national tour for her best selling book, "Going Rogue: An American Life."
Eight out of 10 Republicans questioned the survey had a favorable opinion of Palin, with more than seven in 10 Democrats viewing her unfavorably. Independents were evenly divided on Palin. The poll found 51 percent of men saw her in a positive light, with an nearly equal amount of women viewing Palin in a negative way.
"The gender gap on Palin is not simply a function of the fact that women tend to identify with the Democratic Party more than men do," said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "Even within GOP circles, Republican men like Palin more than Republican women do. John McCain put Palin on his ticket in 2008 to appeal to female voters, but it looks like men are a natural constituency for her."
How does the first female vice-presidential major party candidate in more than two decades compare to recent vice presidents?
"Palin is still not as popular Al Gore and remains more unpopular than Joe Biden, but her favorable rating is much higher than Dick Cheney's," Holland said.
Palin's book tour brought her to Iowa on Sunday. With the former Alaska governor considered a possible contender for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination, attention has been sparked by her visit to Iowa, site of the first event on the presidential calendar. Long lines of people have waited hours to see Palin during many stops of her nearly monthlong book tour.
The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll was conducted Wednesday and Thursday, with 1,041 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points.
Obama 47, Palin 46
OK, this is not a head-to-head race.
In fact, it is two different polls.
Still, it is a fun comparison.
Among adults (not the subset voters) President Obama's job approval is at 47% in the Gallup Poll.
Meanwhile, CBS News reported: "A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released today finds that Sarah Palin's favorable rating has risen to 46 percent. That represents an increase from the 39 percent favorable rating for Palin in CNN polling over the summer, following her decision to resign from her job as Alaska governor."
Now favorable/unfavorable is a different thing than job approval. You can think the world of Obama as a person -- as I do -- and think he sucks at being president -- which I also believe.
Still, what goes up must come down. But you can't keep a good woman down.
Palin's Favorability Numbers Improve
Posted:
12/7/09
Filed Under:John Edwards, Al Gore, Polls, Sarah Palin, Poll Watch
Maybe it's her book tour, or the fact that recent polls have shown majorities saying the press has treated her unfairly, but Sarah Palin's favorability numbers improved in the latest poll by CNN/Opinion Research, with those that see her in a positive or negative light matched evenly at 46 percent each, according to a CNN/Opinion Research poll conducted Dec. 2-3. Ten percent had no opinion and 6 percent say they never heard of her (!!!!!!).
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In October, Palin was seen unfavorably by 52 percent of Americans and favorably by 42 percent. Last July, that negative ratio was 48 percent to 39 percent.
Former Vice President Dick Cheney is seen unfavorably by 53 percent and favorably by 39 percent, with 2 percent expressing no opinion and 5 percent saying they did not know him. The high point in terms of those who saw Cheney unfavorably was 61 percent in August 2008.
Former Democratic senator and presidential candidate John Edwards predictably suffered a huge turn to the negative after he admitted an extramarital affair and faced accusations that he tried to cover it up. In July, 2008, he was seen favorably by 59 percent and unfavorably by 25 percent with the balance expressing no opinion. Now, he is regarded unfavorably by 47 percent and favorably by 30 percent.
Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, an independent aligned with the Democrats, is seen favorably by 40 percent and unfavorably by 28 percent, with the balance either not having heard of him or having no opinion.
Vice President Joseph Biden is seen favorably by 47 percent and unfavorably by 36 percent with the rest having no opinion or not having heard of him. Former Vice President Al Gore has a 52 percent to 42 percent favorable-to-unfavorable ratio with the balance expressing no opinion.
NEW FAVORABILITY POLL NUMBERS
JOE BIDEN 47
SARAH PALIN 46
Sarah Palin's favorability numbers improved in the latest poll by CNN/Opinion Research, with those that see her in a positive or negative light matched evenly at 46 percent each, according to a CNN/Opinion Research poll conducted Dec. 2-3.
Vice President Joseph Biden is seen favorably by 47 percent and unfavorably by 36 percent with the rest having no opinion or not having heard of him.
Poll: Book apparently boosts Sarah Palin's popularity
Sarah Palin's popularity has risen to its highest level in six months, according to a new survey.
Forty-six percent of Americans now have a favorable impression of her, while 46 percent do not, according to the CNN poll.
The survey of 1,041 adults was taken Dec. 2-3 and has a margin of error of 3 percent. Palin has been promoting her new book, "Going Rogue," for the last several weeks. In mid October Palin's approval rating was 42 percent and in early August it was 39 percent.
The former Alaska governor and former vice presidential running mate of Republican John McCain is believed to be considering a White House run in 2012.
Posted December 7, 2009 1:10 PM
The Swamp
by Mark Silva
Sarah Palin's Going Rogue national book-signing tour may be good for more than book sales:
Public opinion of the Republican former governor of Alaska has risen in recent months, according to the findings of a new CNN/Opinion Research Poll released today.
Palin hasn't surfaced above 50 percent yet -- but she's getting closer: With 46 percent expressing a favorable opinion of Palin in the most recent, Dec. 2-3, survey.
That's up from 42 percent in mid-October, as the GOP's 2008 nominee for vice president was starting to attract new publicity surrounding her impending book release and tour, and 39 percent at the end of July, just after she surprisingly resigned midway through her term as governor.
However, the latest survey was conducted before word got around that Palin was adding her voice -- or maybe not adding it -- to the crowd questioning the credentials of President Barack Obama's birth certificate.
And, for the record, Palin's favorable rating is running about as strong as Vice President Joe Biden's -- "can I call you Joe?'' she asked him during their debate last year. His favorable rating in the latest CNN poll: 47 percent.
Palin told an audience of journalists at dinner in Washington over the weekend that things would be different today had her ticket won -- she would be bailing out banks and Biden would be peddling his memoirs, Going Rogaine.
Governor] Sarah Palin rises in polls as Obama slips, new surveys show
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | December 7, 2009 | Dave Cook, Washington Bureau Chief
Posted on 12/07/2009 1:55:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
President Obama's job approval rating has hit a new low, even as Sarah Palin's popularity appears to be on the rebound, new polls show.
The latest USA Today/Gallup Poll puts Mr. Obama's job approval rating at 47 percent, a new low for his 10-month administration. His job approval ratings rose briefly after last week's announcement of a new policy in Afghanistan but then fell back in Dec. 4-6 polling, Gallup said.
Gallup reported finding significant opposition both to Obama's policies on healthcare reform and on Afghanistan.
Strong partisan feelings
The partisan split is deep and wide in Obama's approval ratings. Fourteen percent of Republicans approve of Obama's performance, versus 42 percent of independents and 83 percent of Democrats, Gallup found. Since November, when the president's approval rating was 53 percent, his poll numbers have fallen three percentage points among Democrats, seven points among independents, and four points among Republicans, Gallup said.
As for Sarah Palin, the 2008 Republican vice-presidential candidate, 46 percent of Americans have a favorable view of her and 46 percent have an unfavorable view, according to a new poll by CNN/Opinion Research Corp. Those figures represent progress for Ms. Palin: When she resigned as Alaska's governor in July, her favorability rating in CNN's poll dropped to 39 percent.
By JOE MURRAY, The Bulletin
Published:
Saturday, November 28, 2009
With the approval numbers for President Barack Obama continuing to drop and the numbers for former Republican Vice Presidential candidate experiencing an upward trend, both political players have shown a lot can happen in a year.
This time last year, Mrs. Palin was the scourge of the media and political establishment. Berated by the likes of Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann, mocked by Saturday Night Live and abandoned by her running mate, Mrs. Palin was left to fend for herself in a landscape that claimed the careers of many conservatives before her.
Mr. Obama, on the other hand, was the chosen one. He was sending shivers up the legs of NBC news anchors, wooing the world with his riveting rhetoric and riding the tidal wave of history. Now, it appears, the roles are reversing.
On Tuesday, Rasmussen Reports released a poll showing Mr. Obama has hit an all-time low approval rating. The news comes at time when he struggles to convince voters his left-leaning solutions regarding health care, Afghanistan, world diplomacy and global warming will benefit the nation.
"Overall, 45 percent of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president's performance. That matches the lowest level of total approval yet measured for this president," the Rasmussen poll read.
"Eighty-one percent of Democrats approve as do 33 percent of unaffiliated voters. Eighty-three percent of Republicans disapprove. Among all voters, 54 percent now disapprove."
Now, with the health care bill in the U.S. Senate, Mr. Obama has to rally a cantankerous group of Democrats all wanting to pull the bill in separate directions. Liberals want socialized medicine, while moderates are fleeing the public option. Republicans, however, are unified in opposition; all of which undermines the president's campaign pledge he would create a consensus in Washington.
Mrs. Palin, on the other hand, is in the midst of a successful media blitz in which she is publicizing her new book, "Going Rogue." She has sold an estimated 700,000 books in the first week and hoards of admirers have waited in 30 degree temperatures to get a glimpse of her.
Depending on which poll is read, Mrs. Palin has a favorable rating between 43 percent and 47 percent. Even if one relies on the lowest poll, 43 percent, it still marks an increase from when she was polling 40 percent in July and shows her numbers are comparable to Mr. Obama.
But, most importantly, she has refined her media persona and image.
Once known for botching media interviews, the former Alaskan governor is handling the media circuit with precision and skill. And while Mrs. Palin is working to get most of her poll numbers to rise, the hope is the "Going Rogue" media tour will cause at least one poll number to go down.
Last October, two liberals responded to my speech at the University of Arizona -- during question and answer, no less -- by charging the stage and throwing two pies at me from a few yards away. Fortunately for me, liberals not only argue like liberals, they also throw like girls.
There are no polls to prove it yet, but Sarah Palin is the new frontrunner for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination. Mike Huckabee's admission that he is "less than likely" to run, followed by the disastrous news of his commutation of Maurice Clemmons prison sentence in Arkansas, leaves Palin at the front of the pack.
Two weeks ago, an Iowa poll showed Palin trailing Huckabee by just two points, 70% to 68%, in favorability ratings among Iowa Republicans. She easily outdistanced Mitt Romney, who garnered only 58 percent. Despite a media onslaught attempting to spin the Clemmons story, Huckabee's credibility has taken a serious hit. Even those who boosted him to victory in the 2008 Iowa Caucus are questioning the former Arkansas governor's judgment.
That means Sarah Palin is the new frontrunner in Iowa. A victory here could vault her to the GOP nomination. Only Palin knows if she has any intentions of running in 2012, but if she does, there are legions of very loyal fans lined up to support her. This was evidenced Sunday in Sioux City, where some fans camped out overnight in frigid temperatures to guarantee their chance to meet Palin at a book signing.
Larry finally admits he plays it fast and loose with the truth.
LARRY SAID: "Unemployment is rising."
Truth: Latest unemployment figures show a .2% drop in the U.S. unemployment rate.
LARRY SAID: "But, Sarah Palin's poll numbers are strengthening while President Obama's are sliding. Guess what? They're about to meet in the 40s.
Truth: Larry was comparing Obama's job approval with Palin's favorables. He was comparing apples to apricots. When you look at a comparison of favorables of both individuals, they are nowhere near each other, and Obama has a large lead.
LARRY SAID: "A new Iowa poll shows that Republicans in the state highly approve of Sarah Palin. As many as 68 percent of Iowa Republicans view Palin favorably, according to the Des Moines Register's Iowa poll beating both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney."
Truth: That same poll that Larry was celebrating states: "The first public poll to test Palin's favorabilty in the leadoff nominating state found 55 percent of all Iowans hold an unfavorable opinion of Palin a little more than a year after the last election. Only 37 percent feel favorably about her."
LARRY SAID: "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 27% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President."
Truth: From that same poll, total Obama job approval is 47%, and total disapproval is 52%.
LARRY SAID: "As of October 15th, the Palin poll had received over 52 million votes. The "Yes" answer had 49%, the "No" answer had 49%. One interesting thing about this poll is that approximate 26 million people supported Sarah Palin."
Truth: This was an online poll which allowed people to vote as often as they like. One person could vote hundreds or thousands of times. "Approximate(ly) 26 million people supported Sarah Palin?" Not in Larry's wildest dreams.
http://www.pbs.org/now/palin-poll.html
LARRY SAID: "Hey ksand99, since you are so much smarter then the average person, how much do you think Palin has made out of selling over two million books?"
Truth: As of December 1st, when Larry made that statement, Palin's publisher announced that she had just sold 1 (one) million books, not two (2) million like Larry said.
LARRY SAID, AGAIN: "Boy, if ksand99 feels this bad learning that Sarah Palin has sold two million books, what in the cat hair will he be like when she reaches three million books sold?"
LarryVegas intentionally deceived his fellow posters and continues to deny it. How can anyone ever trust LarryVegas when he purposely manipulates the truth to deceive his friends and readers?
LarryVegas's deception, manipulation and name-calling are some of the many shameful tactics used by those republicans who lack integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
After one time out for his nasty personal attacks, is he headed for another?
Palin's poll numbers reveal a sad truth about some cynical politicians: they are willing to do anything to boost their poll numbers, even lie.
"Sarah Palin's new book reprises familiar claims from the 2008 presidential campaign that haven't become any truer over time."
"Ignoring substantial parts of her record if not the facts, she depicts herself as a frugal traveler on the taxpayer's dime, a reformer without ties to powerful interests and a politician roguishly indifferent to high ambition."
"Palin goes adrift, at times, on more contemporary issues, too. She criticizes President Barack Obama for pushing through a bailout package that actually was achieved by his Republican predecessor George W. Bush -- a package she seemed to support at the time."
"PALIN: Says she made frugality a point when traveling on state business as Alaska governor, asking "only" for reasonably priced rooms and not "often" going for the "high-end, robe-and-slippers" hotels."
"THE FACTS: Although travel records indicate she usually opted for less-pricey hotels while governor, Palin and daughter Bristol stayed five days and four nights at the $707.29-per-night Essex House luxury hotel (robes and slippers come standard) overlooking New York City's Central Park for a five-hour women's leadership conference in October 2007. With air fare, the cost to Alaska was well over $3,000. Event organizers said Palin asked if she could bring her daughter. The governor billed her state more than $20,000 for her children's travel, including to events where they had not been invited, and in some cases later amended expense reports to specify that they had been on official business."
Palin lies in her blockbuster book, but her fan club continues their undying support.
"PALIN: Boasts that she ran her campaign for governor on small donations, mostly from first-time givers, and turned back large checks from big donors if her campaign perceived a conflict of interest."
"THE FACTS: Of the roughly $1.3 million she raised for her primary and general election campaigns for governor, more than half came from people and political action committees giving at least $500, according to an AP analysis of her campaign finance reports. The maximum that individual donors could give was $1,000; $2,000 for a PAC."
"Of the rest, about $76,000 came from Republican Party committees."
"She accepted $1,000 each from a state senator and his wife in the weeks after the two Republican lawmakers' offices were raided by the FBI as part of an investigation into a powerful Alaska oilfield services company. After AP reported those donations during the presidential campaign, she said she would give a comparative sum to charity after the general election in 2010, a date set by state election laws."
PLEASE DO NOT NOT HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH EDGEWISE OR KSAND99 AS BOTH LACK THE MORAL INTEGRITY TO HAVE ANY TYPE OF HONEST DISCUSSION.
edgewise and ksand99 purposely mislead readers and other posters on this discussion site. They are not honest enough to engage in any meaningful discussion.
ksand99 purposely mislead the readers of this discussion by stating that Amazon was having a fire sale on Sarah Palin's new book "Going Rogue," when the truth is that Amazon has ALL of it's 25 best sellers prices at 50% off.
ksand99's response: One (1) of Amazon's top 25 best sellers was only 45% off instead of 50% off like the other 24 best sellers. ksand99 thinks that this justifies his original statement but his fellow posters do not believe it.
edgewise has joined his Liberal friend ksand99 in posting less then honest posts.
edgewise's post out of context: "Why did John McCain say Sarah Palin was "irrelevant" on Sunday? He dragged her onto the national stage and now announces that she is not relevant. Thank goodness they weren't elected."
Larry's post in context: "I think that Sarah Palin has earned herself a very big place in the Republican political scene," McCain said. "I'm proud of her. I am entertained every time I see these people attack her, and attack her and attack her. 'She's irrelevant!' -- but they continue to attack her." - John McCain
ksand99 and edgewise deception, manipulation and calling people liars are some of the many shameful tactics he uses. ksand99 and edgewise lacks the integrity, honesty and respect for their follow posters...
ksand99 and edgewise purposely deceived their fellow posters, so how can anyone ever trust them when they purposely manipulate the truth to deceive their friends and readers?
I lack moral integrity? Wow, that's quite a charge, LarryVegas. Is this just like all your other charges? The ones where I ask you to provide a quote or evidence and you desperately shuffle and change the subject? I think so.
I would like to engage with you on some of Sarah Palin's policies, since you have read her book and have a keen insight into her decision-making. Since you have copied and pasted the same entry more than 30 or so times now, I'd appreciate some discussion, rather than the same old-same old.
Since you are the only person I've read so far on the Sun's website that will openly admit to reading her book, I'm sure you have the ability to answer these questions.
Do you support raising the sales tax to pay for pet projects that become huge money pits? Did you know that the sports complex that Palin championed requires massive taxpayer bailouts every year because it can't break even?
Dec 8 2009, 9:51AM
Sarah Palin, the Book Business and the American Dream
Sarah Palin's Going Rogue: An American Life is a smash. It sold more than a million copies in the first two weeks and heads into the Christmas peak with enough momentum to anoint it as probably the best selling nonfiction book of the season. Considering that the contenders include the late Senator Edward Kennedy, Mitch Albom and Jon Krakauer, two multi-million copy masters of narrative writing, and Fox News' Glenn Beck, the current superstar of rabid right-wing rhetoric, Palin has bested an impressive field. All concerned: Palin, her publisher HarperCollins, and her agent, Robert Barnett (who she shares with Kennedy, Barack Obama, the Clintons, and George W. Bush), all deserve kudos for pulling off a blockbuster.
The Los Angeles Times
Shocker polls: That Sarah Palin-Barack Obama gap melts to 1 point
December 8, 2009 | 2:42 am
Lordy, Lordy, Lordy, look what the pollsters just brought in.
A pair of new surveys revealing that President Obama is still declining and has hit a new low in job approval among Americans just 56 weeks after they elected him with a decided margin.
And -- wait for it -- Republican Sarah Palin is successfully selling a whole lot more than books out there on the road. Even among those not lining up in 10-degree weather to catch a glimpse of pretty much the only political celebrity the GOP has these days.
First, el jefe. Facing double-digit unemployment, rising spending, deficits and Afghan war casualties plus a keystone but stalled healthcare reform effort that caused a rare Sunday presidential visit to Capitol Hill, Obama recently fell below 50% job approval for the first time.
Then, last week's deft dance of rhetoric over sending reinforcements to Afghanistan but, on the other foot, bringing them home quickly maybe gave him a brief boost. That, however, collapsed with equal rapidity.
Obama's new Gallup Poll job approval number is 47%. Last month it was 53%.
Regular Ticket readers will recall how in this space in late November we pointed out that Obama's closely watched job approval slide was coinciding with Palin's little-noticed rise in favorability. And it appeared they might cross somewhere in the 40s.
Well, ex-Sen. Obama, meet ex-Gov. Palin.
The new CNN/Opinion Research Poll shows Palin now at 46% favorable, just one point below her fellow basketball fan.
I would like to engage with you on some of Sarah Palin's policies, since you have read her book and have a keen insight into her decision-making.
Since you are the only person I've read so far on the Sun's website that will openly admit to reading her book, I'm sure you have the ability to answer these questions.
Do you support raising the sales tax to pay for pet projects that become huge money pits? Did you know that the sports complex that Palin championed requires massive taxpayer bailouts every year because it can't break even?
Sarah Palin still an American political heavyweight
New York, Nov 24(ANI): Recent polls and political analysis have suggested that former U.S. Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin is still a political heavyweight. According to the Des Moines Register's Iowa poll, as many as 68 percent of Iowa Republicans...
Hello again Larry, I would like to engage with you on some of Sarah Palin's policies, since you have read her book and have a keen insight into her decision-making.
Since you are the only person I've read so far on the Sun's website that will openly admit to reading her book, I'm sure you have the ability to answer these questions.
Do you think it's fair that Palin brags about eliminating the personal property tax, but with the same legislation, the city increased motor vehicle fees that almost matched the lost income of the personal property taxes?
Colorado Springs crowd anticipating Palin book signing
The Denver Post
12/08/2009 10:47:09 AM MST
Sarah Palin signs books in Iowa.
Hundreds of people lined up this morning at a Colorado Springs mall in anticipation of getting Sarah Palin's autograph on her new book.
Palin, author of the best-selling "Going Rogue: An American Life," is scheduled to appear at the Chapel Hills Mall, 1710 Briargate Blvd., at 7 p.m. where she'll sign the book, and interact with avid supporters and fans. If form from previous stops continues, she'll be there until 10 p.m.
Hello again Larry, I would like to engage with you on some of Sarah Palin's policies, since you have read her book and have a keen insight into her decision-making. Unfortunately, it looks like you aren't interested in a discussion.
Since you are the only person I've read so far on the Sun's website that will openly admit to reading her book, I'm sure you have the ability to answer these questions.
Do you think its unfair and a poor comparison to compare a politician's job performance poll ratings with another person's favorability ratings, even though that person does not currently hold a job?
Palin gaining respect on media tour, but real test is yet to come
By CARL LEUBSDORF
The Dallas Morning News
Published: Tuesday, Dec. 8, 2009 - 12:00 am
At midday Friday, Sarah Palin's book-signing road show rolled into Plano, Texas, attracting yet another of the enthusiastic crowds that have greeted her throughout America's heartland. Many waited hours to meet the former Alaska governor and get her imprimatur on their copy of "Going Rogue: An American Life."
On Saturday, she drew 2,200 to a suburban Washington shopping mall, despite drizzle and the year's first snowfall.
But that night, the 2008 Republican vice-presidential nominee spoke to a far different, far more skeptical gathering as the GOP speaker at the Winter Dinner of Washington's Gridiron Club, an organization of correspondents and columnists best known for its white-tie Spring Dinner featuring skits spoofing the nation's politics.
Palin conveyed a sense of the incongruity of her appearance, noting: "Sometimes you just have to trust your instincts. When you don't, you end up in places like this."
But the evening went off well. She undertook the experience with good cheer and was greeted enthusiastically by many of the journalists, including some who undoubtedly disagree with most of her views. Indeed, her appearance opposite outspoken liberal Democratic Rep. Barney Frank helped produce the biggest attendance in years for the normally low-key event, which is confined to club members, spouses and close friends.
Members disagreed somewhat on whether she struck the self-deprecatory note that distinguished some past speakers. Several detected the angry edge of her past speeches. "To paraphrase John Kennedy," she said, "this has to be the most extraordinary collection of people who have gathered to attack me since the last corporate gathering at CBS."
But she certainly did herself no harm and gained respect for her willingness to show up and participate in one of political Washington's oldest rituals.
In the end, however, Palin's ultimate political success, or lack of it, won't be determined by the acclaim on her book tour and from conservative pundits hailing her Gridiron appearance, nor from the skepticism of Washington pundits, nor even by her recurring capacity for controversy shown in last week's flap in which she may - or may not - have embraced the "birther" movement.
Presidential candidacies can be crippled, perhaps even destroyed, at this early date. That may be the case with the disclosure that former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee granted clemency to, among others, the man who recently gunned down four policemen in Washington state.
But the chances of most hopefuls thrive or die during the months leading up to the presidential caucuses and primaries. It's a difficult path, as can be attested by an array of highly touted, ultimately unsuccessful candidates ranging from Phil Gramm to Hillary Clinton.
Hello again Larry, I would like to engage with you on some of Sarah Palin's policies, since you have read her book and have a keen insight into her decision-making. Unfortunately, it looks like you aren't interested in a discussion.
Since you are the only person I've read so far on the Sun's website that will openly admit to reading her book, I'm sure you have the ability to answer these questions.
Are you alarmed that, in fiscal 2002, near the end of Palin's mayoral reign, Wasilla funded 73 percent of its defined benefit pension plan obligation and had 52 percent unfunded liability as a percentage of its covered payroll, but in fiscal 1995, Wasilla funded 97.5 percent of its obligation and had 4.3 percent unfunded liability as a percentage of payroll? Are you alarmed that Palin let that unfunded obligation balloon, even after increasing the debt in Wasilla?
Stanley Fish: Sarah Palin is Coming to Town
By Doug Brady
Stanley Fish, of the New York Times, has written a thoughtful review of Going Rogue. Here's an excerpt:
Do I believe any of this? It doesn't matter. What matters is that [Palin] does, and that her readers feel they are hearing an authentic voice. I find the voice undeniably authentic (yes, I know the book was written "with the help" of Lynn Vincent, but many books, including my most recent one, are put together by an editor). It is the voice of small-town America, with its folk wisdom, regional pride, common sense, distrust of rhetoric (itself a rhetorical trope), love of country and instinctive (not doctrinal) piety. It says, here are some of the great things that have happened to me, but they are not what makes my life great and American. ("An American life is an extraordinary life.") It says, don't you agree with me that family, freedom and the beauties of nature are what sustains us? And it also says, vote for me next time. For it is the voice of a politician, of the little girl who thought she could fly, tried it, scraped her knees, dusted herself off and "kept walking."
In the end, perseverance, the ability to absorb defeat without falling into defeatism, is the key to Palin's character. It's what makes her run in both senses of the word and it is no accident that the physical act of running is throughout the book the metaphor for joy and real life. Her handlers in the McCain campaign wouldn't let her run (a mistake, I think, even at the level of photo-op), no doubt because they feared another opportunity to go "off script," to "go rogue."
But run she does (and falls, but so what?), and when it is all over and she has lost the vice presidency and resigned the governorship, she goes on a long run and rehearses in her mind the eventful year she has chronicled. And as she runs, she achieves equilibrium and hope: "We've been through amazing days, and really, there wasn't one thing to complain about. I feel such freedom, such hope, such thankfulness for our country, a place where nothing is hopeless."
The message is clear. America can't be stopped. I can't be stopped. I've stumbled and fallen, but I always get up and run again. Her political opponents, especially those who dismissed Ronald Reagan before he was elected, should take note. Wherever you are, you better watch out. Sarah Palin is coming to town.
Hello again Larry, I would like to engage with you on some of Sarah Palin's policies, since you have read her book and have a keen insight into her decision-making. Unfortunately, it looks like you aren't interested in a discussion.
Since you are the only person I've read so far on the Sun's website that will openly admit to reading her book, I'm sure you have the ability to answer these questions.
Do you think Palin's history of drug abuse serves as a good role model for our children? "Palin said she has smoked marijuana but says she didn't like it and doesn't smoke it now. 'I can't claim a Bill Clinton and say that I never inhaled.'"
Nice guys these Palin haters...
NEW YORK (CBS) Maybe Jeremy Olson should have practiced with a target before attempting to pelt Sarah Palin with tomatoes at a book signing in Minnesota Dec. 7.
Photo: Sarah Palin holding son Trig at Dec. 7, book signing in Minn.
Olson, 33, who police say has no permanent address, was arrested at the Mall of America in Minnesota after one of the tomatoes meant for Sarah Palin failed to hit their mark and landed squarely in the face of a Bloomington police officer, according to Bloomington Police Commander Mark Stehlik. Commander Stehlik said that Olson's aim was off by "maybe ten feet to the left, it wasn't close to her."
Photo: Mug shot of Jeremy Olson, arrested Dec.7.
As officers were arresting Olson he said that "he wished he had better aim" according to Commander Stehlik.
Olson now faces charges of 5th degree assault on a police officer and disorderly conduct, according to Commander Stehlik.
Olson is currently being held in the jail at the Bloomington Police Department and when question early Tuesday Dec. 8 he refused to give a statement. He will likely appear in court later today or tommorrow depending on when the investigators are able to get the case in front of prosecutors.
Commander Stehlik also told CBS News' Crimesider that Olson had "a bigger tomato arsenal in his pocket that had yet to be deployed" as well as a journal with one entry that read: 'Today i will attempt to pelt Sarah Palin with juicy red tomatoes for her fantastic collection of stamps on the American political piggy sceen(sic)', it is not known what he meant by 'stamps'.
An alternate ID was also found, when he was arrested, with a different name than the one he gave police. "But we are fairly certain that the name we released is the correct one," Commander Stehlik said.
Commander Stehlik said that there were still questions about why he had an alternate ID and that depending on where the investigation leads there might be more charges.
Hello again Larry, I would like to engage with you on some of Sarah Palin's policies, since you have read her book and have a keen insight into her decision-making. Unfortunately, it looks like you aren't interested in a discussion.
Since you are the only person I've read so far on the Sun's website that will openly admit to reading her book, I'm sure you have the ability to answer these questions.
Do you support Palin's use of bonds and long-term debt to fuel her expansion of small-town government?
If you thought "Going Rogue" would be the end of Sarah Palin's written rants, you probably don't follow the former Alaskan governor's fan page on Facebook.
The Republican has been blogging like crazy recently with her 1.07 million Facebook fans. (See new video below of the campaign-like scenes.) And getting thousands of comments back.
In addition to pictures from her "Going Rogue" book tour -- of happy children, grinning U.S. troops and flags of the American variety -- Palin gives a more personal look behind her many interviews and individual visits with fans and customers.
According to a new industry sales report, her book is coming up on half a million copies sold in its first five days on the market, a sales rate of about 4,000 per hour around the clock. Which ought to keep her in moose chili a while.
Her Facebook page also has some touching photos of memorabilia that fans give her when buying the book. Plus, of course, the long lines of eager book-buyers at stores and malls along the way on her strategically planned 25-state tour.
Also behind-the-scenes looks at her unscheduled visit with the Rev. Billy Graham.
Her legions of Facebook fans are growinSarah Palin's "Going Rogue" book coverg by a couple of dozen every few minutes. They grow each time you refresh the page.
In one recent post, the Republican calls Fox News' Sean Hannity "a great American." Oh, and an apology for leaving 100 fans at a book signing in Indiana.
But the main focus of her blog posts lately has been about Congress -- things like war spending and "Obamacare," her pet name for the healthcare bill.
Palin blasts the healthcare "scheme" for taxing everyone starting next year. The actual legislation, however, plans to ramp up taxes in 2011 and on a sliding scale, where richer residents are taxed more and the modestly wealthy get a 0.5% hike.
On Tuesday night, Palin was bothered over "liberal Congressional proposals" that would institute a tax to fund the war in Afghanistan. Palin supports the war and the troops but not the idea of paying for it with new taxes.
"With Congress and President Obama spending money on everything at breakneck speed, it's interesting that they are only now getting nervous about ...
Uhhh LarryVegas, why are you quoting someone who calls Sarah Palin's output, "written rants?"
That's not very nice to insult Sarah Palin.
Are you saying that Sarah Palin's writings on Facebook are bitter, angry, and aren't factually accurate?
I thought you were critical of Sarah Palin's "haters?" Now you're quoting people who say she's "rant(ing?)"
RENO, NV - Sarah Palin is coming to a small town near you.
Palin, the former Republican Party vice presidential nominee, will appear at the Reno Costco at 2200 Harvard Way from 5:30 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. Wednesday, general manager Bob Tote said.
Store officials had said 1,000 wristbands would be distributed about 10 a.m. Wednesday but Tote said Monday that might happen closer to when the store opens at 9:30 a.m.
People who have purchased the book and have a Costco receipt can pick up wristbands early and return later for the signing. Palin will sign only her book.
A warm tent will be available, Tote said.
"We're trying to make some provisions to make it nicer for people out there," he said, adding some people might get in line during the night.
"Going Rogue" was released in November. The book follows Sarah Palin from childhood to her departure last summer as Alaska governor. Its title refers to reports that she defied presidential candidate John McCain's staff during the campaign and had gone "rogue."
Palin's book tour is expected to largely mirror stops made during the 2008 campaign.
Hello again Larry, I would like to engage with you on some of Sarah Palin's policies, since you have read her book and have a keen insight into her decision-making. Unfortunately, it looks like you aren't interested in a discussion.
Since you are the only person I've read so far on the Sun's website that will openly admit to reading her book, I'm sure you have the ability to answer these questions.
Do you think the fact that 55 percent of all Iowans hold an unfavorable opinion of Palin a little more than a year after the last election indicates that Palin's political career is over?
Barack Obama Vs Sarah Palin:
Basketball / Election, who will win?
December 8, 3:35 PM Long Island Democrat
Sarah Palin is as big a celebrity politician as Barack Obama. She is the only politician of the current day who could pull a similar sized or larger crowd than Barack Obama, a rock star politician. Sarah Palin currently energizes the Republican base, to the same degree Barack Obama used to energize the Democratic base in 2008.
Sara Palin is a basket ball champion, a marathon runner, and a great outdoor athlete. If Sarah were to play Barack Obama in a basketball match today, the results may be easier to predict. Bookmakers would bet that Sarah would triumph in a basketball showdown with Obama.
But when it comes to 2012, bookmakers are not so sure on whether to place their money on Sarah or Obama.
Obama's poll numbers have been plummeting ever since inauguration. President Obama's approval number currently is at an all time low of 47% as reported by Gallup. It was at 53% just last month. It has been on a downhill slide, month after month. On the other hand, the favorability numbers of Sarah Palin have been on a steady uphill climb, month after month, and currently her favorability is at an all time high of 46%, just one point below Obama's 47% reported by Gallup.
If President Obama continues to do such a bad job as he is doing now with the economy, and continues his "spend as much as you can and bankrupt America like Dubai" policies, his downhill slide will continue.
At the same time, Sarah Palin has been shining on the road with her book tour speeches, hitting Obama hard on economy, his uncontrolled spending, and weak foreign policy. More and more people have been seen lining up at her events, braving zero degree temperatures and rain, and lining up 12-14 hours before her scheduled appearance at events.
Let us wait and watch what happens to the 1 point lead Obama holds over Sarah now!
Larry, my friend. How are you? I would love to hear your opinions about Sarah Palin's time as Governor of Alaska and as mayor of Wasilla.
Since you've read her book, you have a unique insight into her thought process.
Do you support Palin's assertion that gaming is harmful? She said: "...in so many cases, gambling has shown ill effects on families and as Governor I would not propose expansion legislation." Asked if she would you sign any bills that expand gaming in Alaska, Palin responded, "No."
Do you think Palin would be a bad leader for Nevada with that anti-gaming point-of-view?
Poll Shocker: Palin Within 1% of Obama
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 4:57 PM
By: David A. Patten Article Font Size
Riding a wave of positive publicity from her book tour, Sarah Palin's favorable rating has crept within just 1 percent of President Barack Obama's job approval rating, according to the latest polls by CNN and USA Today/Gallup.
The results suggest Palin has fixed the dent in her popularity ratings created this summer when she announced she was stepping down as governor of Alaska.
According to a CNN poll released Monday, 46 percent of voters now say they like Palin. That's the same level of popularity she enjoyed before she resigned the Alaska governorship.
Larry, my friend. How are you? I would love to hear your opinions about Sarah Palin's time as Governor of Alaska and as mayor of Wasilla.
Since you've read her book, you have a unique insight into her thought process.
Do you think Palin's history of drug abuse serves as a good role model for our children? "Palin said she has smoked marijuana but says she didn't like it and doesn't smoke it now. 'I can't claim a Bill Clinton and say that I never inhaled.'"
Sarah Palin rises in polls as Obama slips, new surveys show
By Dave Cook,
For CSMonitor
(AXcess News) - President Obama's job approval rating has hit a new low, even as Sarah Palin's popularity appears to be on the rebound, new polls show.
The latest USA Today/Gallup Poll puts Mr. Obama's job approval rating at 47 percent, a new low for his 10-month administration. His job approval ratings rose briefly after last week's announcement of a new policy in Afghanistan but then fell back in Dec. 4-6 polling, Gallup said.
Gallup reported finding significant opposition both to Obama's policies on healthcare reform and on Afghanistan.
Larry, my friend. How are you? I would love to hear your opinions about Sarah Palin's time as Governor of Alaska and as mayor of Wasilla.
Since you've read her book, you have a unique insight into her thought process.
Do you think she can overcome the fact that the percentage of Iowans who view Palin very unfavorably is more than twice as large as the percentage who view her very favorably, according to one recent poll?
I see no good reason to continue posting on this site when posters edgewise and ksand99 have nothing constructive to add to this post.
Meanwhile, keep up to date on Sarah Palin's book sale figures as they will be the gauge of Palin's popularity.
So Goodnight all and only let the bed bugs bite if you are a Palin hater...
Typical republicans... can't handle a little criticism without taking their toys and going home.
Hey edgewise, what's that about Sarah Palin's drug use? She smoked pot and admitted it? Why would the radical right wing support a drug user? They say she's represents their values. Do they value drug abuse?
Palin has long had an unusual and complex position on global warming. She argues that the warming is real, and that "greenhouse gas emissions" play a role in it. But she's also expressed doubts that global warming is "man made," breaking quietly with McCain during the campaign on that subject, and she's argued that the focus should be on mitigating its effects. (She was subsequently "muzzled" on the issue, I'm told.)
Her tone as governor was one of active engagement with global warming -- though she opposed using the federal Endangered Species Act to do it, arguing for a middle ground in a Times op-ed in early 2008.
In July of 2008, she launched a state office on climate change, and the tone of her letter to Alaskans has none of the sense of partisan confrontation now on display:
The Sub-Cabinet will also be making recommendations to me on how Alaskans can save energy and reduce their greenhouse gas emissions. One of our workgroups, called "Government Leads by Example" will be looking at ways federal, state and local governments can save the taxpayers money while reducing government's carbon footprint.
Alaska has the opportunity, through commercialization of its vast North Slope Natural Gas reserves, to assist the rest of the country in securing a steady, affordable, low-carbon energy source. This will be an element of our climate change strategy.
All life on Earth shares one atmosphere and each nation, each state, bears a responsibility to all to protect it. Our government officials need to be well-informed as the debates continue on legislation to regulate greenhouse gas emissions.
Palin cited the creation of that Sub-Cabinet as a major accomplishment in her resignation speech, and she mentions it in today's Washington Post op-ed. But the tone of that article couldn't me more different from her 2008 letter
Sarah Palin was such a disaster, it led to McCain/Palin losing in 2008.
Sarah Palin was such a disaster, she had to quit her job in Alaska in order to better her constituent's lives. She couldn't do it through being their leader.
Sarah Palin was a huge disaster as mayor of Wasilla, where she took a small town and plunged them into debt, while raising the sales tax and building a "boondoggle" skating park.
Sarah Palin was such a disaster, she had to hire a ghostwriter to find some excuses for her disasters.
Sarah Palin was such a disaster, she had to write a book that some say is full of apologies for her disaster.
In her upcoming book Going Rogue: An American Life, Sarah Palin made a slew of false charges concerning clean energy legislation. Contrary to Palin's tired claims, legislation increasing our investment in clean energy technologies would create jobs in every state and help America become more energy independent, all for less than a quarter a day.
Investment In Clean Energy Technology Will Create Over 1.7 Million American Jobs. According to the Center for American Progress: "Investments in a clean-energy economy will generate major employment benefits for the entire U.S. economy. Our research finds that spending $150 billion on clean-energy investments would create roughly 1.7 million jobs. This is even after assuming a reduction in fossil fuel spending equivalent to the increase in clean-energy investments." [Center for American Progress, The Economic Benefits of Investing in Clean Energy, 6/17/09]
Every Single State Will Gain Jobs From An Investment In Clean Energy Technologies. According to the Center for American Progress, investments in clean energy projects would create 1.7 million American jobs in every state in the country. [Center for American Progress, The Economic Benefits of Investing in Clean Energy, 6/17/09]
Investment In Clean Energy Technology Creates FOUR TIMES As Many Jobs As An Investment In Oil & Gas. According to the Center for American Progress, "spending $1 million on energy efficiency and renewable energy produces a much larger expansion of employment than spending the same amount on fossil fuels or nuclear energy. Among fossil fuels, job creation in coal is about 32 percent greater than that for oil and natural gas. The employment creation for energy efficiency-retrofitting and mass transit-is 2.5 times to four times larger than that for oil and natural gas. With renewable energy, the job creation ranges between 2.5 times to three times more than that for oil and gas." [Center for American Progress, The Economic Benefits of Investing in Clean Energy, 6/17/09]
Palin lied when she said the dismissal of her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, had nothing to do with his refusal to fire state trooper Mike Wooten; in fact, the Branchflower Report concluded that she repeatedly abused her power when dealing with both men.
Palin lied when she repeatedly claimed to have said, "Thanks, but no thanks" to the Bridge to Nowhere; in fact, she openly campaigned for the federal project when running for governor.
Palin lied when she denied that Wasilla's police chief and librarian had been fired; in fact, both were given letters of termination the previous day.
Palin lied when she wrote in the NYT that a comprehensive review by Alaska wildlife officials showed that polar bears were not endangered; in fact, email correspondence between those scientists showed the opposite.
Palin lied when she claimed in her convention speech that an oil gas pipeline "began" under her guidance; in fact, the pipeline was years from breaking ground, if at all.
Palin lied when she told Charlie Gibson that she does not pass judgment on gay people; in fact, she opposes all rights between gay spouses and belongs to a church that promotes conversion therapy.
Palin lied when she denied having said that humans do not contribute to climate change; in fact, she had previously proclaimed that human activity was not to blame.
Palin lied when she claimed that Alaska produces 20 percent of the country's domestic energy supply; in fact, the actual figures, based on any interpretation of her words, are much, much lower.
Palin lied when she told voters she improvised her convention speech when her teleprompter stopped working properly; in fact, all reports showed that the machine had functioned perfectly and that her speech had closely followed the script.
Palin lied when she recalled asking her daughters to vote on whether she should accept the VP offer; in fact, her story contradicts details given by her husband, the McCain campaign, and even Palin herself. (She later added another version.)
Palin lied when she claimed to have taken a voluntary pay cut as mayor; in fact, as councilmember she had voted against a raise for the mayor, but subsequent raises had taken effect by the time she was mayor.
Palin lied when she insisted that Wooten's divorce proceedings had caused his confidential records to become public; in fact, court officials confirmed they released no such records.
Palin lied when she suggested to Katie Couric that she was involved in trade missions with Russia; in fact, she has never even met with Russian officials.
Palin lied when she told Shimon Peres that the only flag in her office was the Israeli flag; in fact, she has several flags.
Palin lied when she claimed to have tried to divest government funds from Sudan; in fact, her administration openly opposed a bill that would have done just that.
Palin lied when she repeatedly claimed that troop levels in Iraq were back to pre-surge levels; in fact, even she acknowledged her "misstatements," though she refused to retract or apologize.
Palin lied when she insisted that the Branchflower Report "showed there was no unlawful or unethical activity on my part"; in fact, that report prominently stated, "Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act."
Palin lied when she claimed to have voiced concerns over Wooten fearing he would harm her family; in fact, she actually decreased her security detail during that period.
Palin lied when asked about the $150,000 worth of clothes provided by the RNC; in fact, solid reporting contradicted several parts of her statement.
Palin lied when she suggested that she had offered the media proof of her pregnancy with Trig to "correct the record"; in fact, no reports of her medical records were ever published; and the letter from her doctor testifying to her good health only emerged hours before polling ended on election day, even though there was nothing in it that couldn't have been released two months earlier.
Palin lied when she said that "reported" allegations of her banning Harry Potter as mayor was easily refutable because it had not even been written yet; in fact, the first book in that series was published in 1998 - two years into her first term - and such rumors were never reported by the media, only circulated as emails.
Palin lied when she denied having participated in a clothes audit with campaign laywers; in fact, the Washington Times later confirmed those details.
Palin lied when asked about Couric's question regarding her reading habits; in fact, Couric's words were not, "What do you read up there in Alaska?" or anything close to condescension.
Palin lied when she mischaracterized the "$1200 check" given to Alaskans as the permanent fund dividend check; in fact, that fund had yielded $2,069 per person, and she claimed otherwise to obscure the fact that Alaskans also received a $1200 rebate check from a windfall profits tax on oil companies - a tax widely criticized by Republicans.
Palin lied when she claimed to be unaware of a turkey being slaughtered behind her during a filmed interview; in fact, the cameraman said she had picked the spot herself, while the slaughter was underway.
Palin lied when she denied having rejected federal stimulus money; in fact, she continued to accept and reject the funds several times.
Palin lied when she claimed that legislative leaders had canceled a meeting with her to hold their own press conference; in fact, they only canceled it after being told she would not participate, and the purpose of the press conference was very different from the meeting's.
Palin lied when she announced on the news that she never holds closed-door meetings; in fact, she had just attended a closed-door meeting with the legislature earlier that day.
Palin lied when she said that former aide John Bitney's "amicable" departure was for "personal" reasons; in fact, Bitney said he was fired because of his relationship with the wife of Palin's friend, plus a Palin spokesperson later claimed "poor job performance" for his firing - without elaborating.
Palin lied when she said she kept her running injury a secret on the campaign trail; in fact, her bandaged hand was clearly visible in photographs and the story was widely talked about.
Palin lied when she claimed that Alaska has spent "millions of dollars" on litigation related to her ethics complaints; in fact, that figure is much, much lower, and she had initiated the most expensive inquiry.
Palin lied when she denied that the Alaska Independence Party supports secession and denied that her husband had been a member; in fact, even the McCain campaign noted that the party's very existence is based on secession and that Todd was a member for seven years.
Palin lied when she told Oprah that she desperately wanted to go on Saturday Night Live because it would be "fun" and could push back on the Tina Fey impression Palin says she hated but never actually listened to. Contemporaneous emails show that Palin resisted going on SNL and was therefore lying to Oprah.
Palin lied when she told Oprah Winfrey that she gaffed on the campaign trail in saying that the McCain campaign shouldn't quit Michigan. She said she had been unaware at the time that the decision to withdraw had already been taken. Contemporaneous emails show she was lying, and had already been told.
Palin lied in "Going Rogue: in accusing two journalists she recognized from a press conference as ambushing her daughter Piper on the street. One of those journalists had never attended the press conference cited by Palin, but Palin has never withdrawn the charge.
Larry, my friend. How are you? I would love to hear your opinions about Sarah Palin's time as Governor of Alaska and as mayor of Wasilla.
Since you've read her book, you have a unique insight into her thought process.
Do you support Palin's assertion that gaming is harmful? She said: "...in so many cases, gambling has shown ill effects on families and as Governor I would not propose expansion legislation." Asked if she would you sign any bills that expand gaming in Alaska, Palin responded, "No."
Do you think Palin would be a bad leader for Nevada with that anti-gaming point-of-view?
Larry, my friend. How are you? I would love to hear your opinions about Sarah Palin's time as Governor of Alaska and as mayor of Wasilla.
Since you've read her book, you have a unique insight into her thought process.
Do you think Palin's history of drug abuse serves as a good role model for our children? "Palin said she has smoked marijuana but says she didn't like it and doesn't smoke it now. 'I can't claim a Bill Clinton and say that I never inhaled.'"
Larry, my friend. How are you? I would love to hear your opinions about Sarah Palin's time as Governor of Alaska and as mayor of Wasilla.
Since you've read her book, you have a unique insight into her thought process.
Do you support raising the sales tax to pay for pet projects that become huge money pits? Did you know Palin's sports complex requires massive taxpayer bailouts every year because it can't break even?
Do you support Palin's use of bonds and long-term debt to fuel her expansion of small-town government?
Do you think it's fair that Palin brags about eliminating the personal property tax, but with the same legislation, the city increased motor vehicle fees that almost matched the lost income of the personal property taxes?
Do you think the fact that 55 percent of all Iowans hold an unfavorable opinion of Palin a little more than a year after the last election indicates that Palin's political career is over?
Do you think she can overcome the fact that the percentage of Iowans who view Palin very unfavorably is more than twice as large as the percentage who view her very favorably, according to one recent poll?
Run, boys, run...
You guys are something else...
You would fall for anything...
Keep up the good work...
Sarah thanks you...
Come on boys...
You are number 10 on the list...
Get in gear and catch up...
Sarah appreciates your help...
Hey boys...
I hate to tell you...
But I got the 900th post on this site...
Let's keep Sarah's name in the top ten forever...
I will try to get Sarah to send you boys some books...
Come on boys...
It's been over an hour since you posted last...
Boys?
Boys?
Are you out there boys? Come back and play...
The truth is, the Anti Sarah crowd has done their job. There is no way the party would seriously support her in 2012 (think Dan Quayle in 1996). The TV media has bombarded the public with negativity. Meanwhile, Unemployment rises (despite the skewed figures released by Obama, you know, after the unemployment checks run out, one is then not considered "unemployed"). Obama sure helped a lot with cash for clunkers....helped the foreign car companies make millions, while closing dealers of American cars....What a joke! Meanwhile, reports are starting to come in from Al Gore's meetings as he flies around the world on his personal jet. I use less fuel in a year than he does in a day, yet he wants ME to take the bus? No thanks Al, I got my American Made Pontiac (33 mpg hwy) before your guys shut them down. Don't worry edgewise, there's no way Palin, (or Huckabee) will get the nomination.
Come on back boys...
You have let this site slip to number 15...
Quit pouting and come back boys...