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Suit raises illegal immigrant rights issue
Attorney says cleaning company shortchanged hundreds of workers
Monday, Aug. 31, 2009 | 2 a.m.
Callister and Bohlke Interview
A class action lawsuit has been filed against a local janitorial company used by many high-end casino restaurants. In Business talks with attorneys Matthew Callister and Brooke Bohlke who filed the lawsuit.
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A workplace lawsuit filed by a group of immigrant laborers against a cleaning contractor popular with posh Strip restaurants is the latest controversy over how third-party operators conduct business in the strictly-regulated atmosphere of casinos.
The workers allege that Bravo Pro Maintenance made them work 13 hours a day, seven days a week, cleaning hip spots such as CatHouse at the Luxor and Trader Vic’s at Planet Hollywood — without breaks and without overtime. They say they were promised $1,300 every two weeks but were paid far less, an average of $4.40 per hour.
The workers’ attorney, Matthew Callister, says the company held its mostly-Mexican workforce in a form of “indentured servitude,” squeezing more labor out of frustrated workers by promising to make them whole one day. Many tired of waiting and quit. Others, undocumented and desperate for work, remain silent.
Attempts to reach Bravo Pro and its executives were unsuccessful. According to records filed with the secretary of state’s office, the company’s corporate officers resigned Aug. 7, about two weeks before Callister filed the class action lawsuit on behalf of what he says are hundreds of wronged workers.
“These workers are the poorest of the poor, and they were cheated,” Callister said.
Although stories of worker abuse are legion, the Bravo Pro case highlights the potent intersection of immigration and labor — an area of law that, despite much debate, remains unsettled.
Are illegal immigrants entitled to back pay?
Experts in labor and employment law say the answer, for the most part, is yes. A worker is a worker under the Fair Labor Standards Act, the federal law governing wage-and-hour abuses, and the aggrieved have a right to sue.
“If you didn’t have that protection, the government would open the door to crazy exploitation” of undocumented workers, said Ruth Milkman, a UCLA labor expert who has studied immigrants and union organizing. “There’s supposed to be a firewall between immigration and labor law.”
Key phrase: Supposed to be.
In 2002, the Supreme Court chipped a hole in the wall.
In a 5-4 decision, the court ruled in favor of Hoffman Plastic Compounds, which had contested the right of an undocumented worker to collect back pay after he was illegally fired for participating in an organizing drive. The defendant in the case was the National Labor Relations Board, which had supported the worker and, citing precedent, ordered the company to pay.
Essentially, the court ruled that immigration law superseded the National Labor Relations Act — the law that, among other things, protects union activity. Then-Chief Justice William Rehnquist, writing the majority opinion, said awarding back pay to undocumented workers would “encourage the successful evasion of apprehension by immigration authorities, condone prior violations of the immigration laws, and encourage future violations.”
William Gould, professor emeritus at Stanford Law School and former chairman of the federal labor board, said the Supreme Court decision rendered meaningless the precedent that workers, regardless of immigration status, are employees with legal rights.
But the narrow Supreme Court ruling was made in the context of a labor board issue. The Bravo Pro case, however, doesn’t hinge on a labor board connection but, rather, the Fair Labor Standards Act.
And Mitchell Rubinstein, professor of labor and employment law at St. John’s University, said the lower courts have held — and the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has strongly suggested — that all workers have a right to sue employers for discrimination — and that the Fair Labor Standards Act applies to illegal immigrants.
Although that bodes well for the Bravo Pro workers, the issue is still very much alive.
“The door is not shut until the Supreme Court shuts it,” Gould said. “But most courts have balked at the idea (of denying immigrants legal standing) because it would create slavery.”
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#1 Fine Bravo Pro for knowingly hiring undocumented workers.
#2 These undocumented aliens broke the law first and broke FEDERAL laws by entering the U.S. without leagal entry. To take the side of umdocumented aliens could set a prescident to allow them to come into our country breaking FEDERAL laws, take jobs away from american citizens, then sue employers for unfair labor practices.
If they hadn't broken our FEDERAL LAWS first by entering our country illegally, the unfair labor practices would have never happened.
However I do feel that Bravo Pro should be fined by the Feds for knowingly hiring undocumented immigrants aliens. Our businesses have got to find out one way or another that hiring the undocumentd is also breaking federal laws.
These illegal aliens should be taking back to the farthest corner of their homeland and dropped off. True they are humanbeings, but they must learn that they can't come into our country by breaking federal laws.
First, everybody should realized that in about 50 to 70 years that the Latinos will the dominate ethnic group in the USA even if there is zero immigrant because they have the highest birth rate in the USA. Right now, in Clark County and other Southwestern and Southern States, the latinos are the majority in Elementary schools.
The Democratic Party hates cheap labor overseas and claims that it suppress labor wages.
But once that cheap labor crosses the border than they just love, love, love it.
Does that cheap labor supress labor wages? Yes, of course it does.
Why does the Democratic Party love those cheap labor people? Power...............
The Democratic Party will sell it soul to the devil for power.
This means the Democratic Party supports apartheid.
If they start enforcing labor laws then that means fewer businesses will hire these illegals which interferes with the Democrat's goal of power.
Lastly, if we are going to enforce labor laws then let's enforce all them. One can't work in the USA without a valid SSN. These workers do not have valid SSN's. They are not employable. Also, you must either have a worker visa or be a USA citizen to work in the USA.
Folks,what im beginning to wonder about is what nefarious plan is going on? Our Government, past & present, Republican & Democrat, have allowed the invasion of 20 to 40 million criminals and uneducated peons which is the largest invasion of any Nation, at any time, by any means & in direct violation of Article IV, Section IV of our Constitution.
This refusal to abide by our Constitution or enforce our Immigration Laws should be classified as Treason of the most foul kind, & as grounds for impeachment & trials for Treason!
Not only have they allowed the invasion, they force American tax payers to pay Billions on Billions of dollars to provide Welfare, Prison cells, Educate the invaders numerous children, and free medical care , at the same time the invading horde break numerous laws and massive document fraud, & are destroying ourschools, hospitals, communities, culture and standard of living while Robbing, Raping, Killing & Assaulting American Citizens! WAKE UP!
nance;
the first and last paragraph of your post are correct and I agree.
The crap in the middle is just political B.S.
Well said pyrostevo. I've been saying the same for years and vote against any politician who turns a blind eye on OUR Constitution.
Illegals demand back pay.
Illegals demand fair labor standards.
Illegals contest firing of illegals...
Am I missing anything?
Yes. Who wants an invasion of "uneducated peons" when we already, as so well illustrated by the above posts, have plenty who were born here?
WE don't require Everify, why?
Fine the employer and jail them if they abused the workers. Deport the workers and require all employers to use Everify or face extreme penalties.
I absolutely hate illegal immigration, but these people worked for a company and deserve every dime that they earned.
The company, and it's owners, and operators should lose their business license and not be allowed to apply for a new one for at least 5 years.
oh good lord, what's next? suing the government to provide expensive education and health care to illegals? oh wait ....
The U.S. should've Invaded Mexico That would have solved a lot of American interest.
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hey thumper...
for the record...
i only post under one name...
the brilliant...
the one and only...
birdiedreamin...
you know my friend...
when you are as brilliant as i am...
there is no need to post under any other name...
got that skippy!!!
They should pay these immigrants the money they earned. They are human and they deserve to earn what they were promised. Then they should deport them as they now know they are here illegally. Finally, the company's leaders should be fined or put in jail for hiring illegal workers along with unfair labor practices.
In my home town these employer's hire those workers and use them against the american counter parts by saying things like, Look how hard they work, Look how cheap they work for, see they don't need safty devises can you see that, can you see how much more money i can make,
These people are doing jobs that Americans don't want.............................
Then that employer finds himself competing against one of his former undocumented workers because they are in the same business that he learned from him...........
Then this employer who thought it was great to have them working for him now wants those american workers that he beat over the head to be loyal to him.............
The only reason these workers are here is because people are hiring them, those are the ones that have to be penalized to the point where it is cost prohibitive.
Hey SgtRock,
Hispanic women are some of the most beautiful in the world. Are you scared or just bitter you couldn't make babies with one? Your entire post is garbage except for the last paragraph.
"a chance for our retarded republican friends to express their arrogance...
to put down those less fortunate..."
Amazing ,,, The beaked wonder is siding with those that hire illegal aliens so that these fine examples of businessmen can exploit every wage earner in the USA.
Perhaps our fine feathered friend could chirp out its logic for defining these businessmen as "less fortunate"?
just pay them what they are owed, as long as they get on the train back to mexico.
ILLEGAL immigrants do not have rights.
hey sun editors...
what the hell was wrong with that post...
it merely said...
the republican outrage being voiced towards illegal immigrants is nothing but republican arrogance...
that they feel better about themselves by putting others down...
that they have forgotten their origins...
that they have forgotten that their ancestors were once in the same position...
that their ancestors would be horrified at their arrogance...
that their behavior will place them firmly in hell...
now...
if you are going to delete this post...
send me an e-mail stating why...
so i don't have to call you and the owner of the paper...
thanks...
that they have forgotten that their ancestors were once in the same position...
Our ancestors became LEGAL citiznes....
I didn't know birdie doubles as gmag...
hmmmm...
birdie is definitely skerlahdee...
why all the id's birdie...
hmmmm...
birdie sounds a little skitzophrenic...
what a clowm...
period...
end of story...
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Moving to Mexico
Dear Mr. President, Senate and House of Representatives:
I'm planning to move my family and extended family (18-20 mouths) into Mexico for my health, and I would like to ask you to assist me.
We're planning to simply walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico , and we'll need your help to make a few arrangements.
We plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here.
So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Calderon, that I'm on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:
1. Free medical care for my entire family.
2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.
3. All Mexico government forms need to also be printed in English.
4. I want my kids to be taught Spanish by English-speaking (bi-lingual) teachers.
5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.
6. I want my kids to see the American flag on one of the flag poles at their school.
7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.
8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.
9. I do plan to get a car and drive in Mexico, but, I don't plan to purchase car insurance, and I probably won't make any special effort to learn local traffic laws.
10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from their president to leave me alone, please be sure that every patrol car has at least one English-speaking officer.
11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put U S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.
12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, or have any labor or tax laws enforced on any business I may start.
13. Please have the president tell all the Mexican people to be extremely nice and never say a critical things about me or my family, or about the strain we might place on their economy.
I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all his people who come to the U.S. from Mexico .
I am sure that President Calderon won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.
Thank you so much for your kind help,
Sincerely, US Citizen & Taxpayer
Those are not immigrants but a invading horde of Illegal Aliens! American tax payers cannot provide free health to non-citizens no matter from where, or what race!
Our government fails the most basic and primary task & duty of government, to protect this Nation and its Citizens from invasion and enforce its laws.
They refuse to abide by our Constitution, refuse to enforce our Immigration Laws and refuse to honor their Oath of Office!
Our Government, past & present, Republican & Democrat, have allowed the invasion of 20 to 30 million criminals and uneducated peons which is the largest invasion of any Nation, at any time, by any means & in direct violation of Article IV, Section IV of our Constitution.
This refusal to abide by our Constitution or enforce our Immigration Laws should be classified as Treason of the most foul kind, & as grounds for impeachment & trials for Treason!
Not only have they allowed the invasion, they force American tax payers to pay Billions on Billions of dollars to provide Welfare, Prison cells, Educate the invaders numerous children, and free medical care, at the same time the invading horde break numerous laws and massive document fraud, & are destroying our schools, hospitals, communities, culture and standard of living while Robbing, Raping, Killing & Assaulting American Citizens at an rate the terrorist can only dream about.
But no mention, whines, concern or care that their refusal to stop the Massive Invasion of Illegal Aliens pouring across our borders or enforce our immigration laws that causes an estimated 25 Americans deaths per day and 10,s of thousands victims of Assault, Robberies, Rapes, Identify thief, and other assorted crimes committed by the invading horde of Illegal Aliens from Mexico on American citizens each year!
It is a telling indictment & shows their Empathy & Compassion of our Politicians & their priorities are not for the American citizens when they express more concern over Mexicans deaths mostly connected to the Drug trade, than the murders, havoc & crimes of Illegal Aliens against American Citizens!
The Democrats view the invading horde of Criminals and Uneducated third world rejects as Undocumented Welfare Democrats & the Republicans as Undocumented Slave labor for their Pay Masters in the Chamber of Commerce & Businesses!
Most of our Politicians in Wash. DC are wading knee deep in innocent American blood and suffering because they put Self Interest ahead of the interest of American Citizens & the future of this Nation!
The Citizens of this Nation have not sacrificed with blood, sweat & tears for over 200 years & obeyed the Laws of the land, paid the taxes, and fought the wars & built this Nation to see Corrupt politicians turn this Nation into the United States of Mexico without a shot being fired, to serve their demented, nefarious goals and lust for power!
Stories about illegals are becoming standard fare nowadays. Get rid of the illegals and this thing won't be a story. Do it now, Congress!
hey pyro...
very creative...
one thing...
illegal immigrants are not covered under the proposed health care reform bill...
i know many many retarded republicans have suggested as such...
over and over and over...
just another example of retarded republican fear mongering...
thus the name...
retarded republicans!!!
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It's always fun when The Sun runs a story about immigration, or immigrants or someone who isn't Lilly White. For just a little while, the whack jobs quit crying about Obama and his birth certificate and come out of the woodwork to get all worked up into a froth.
They wring their hands in worry, they get hysterical with fright over the scary human beings who look different and speak a different language. They will bring up tired stereotypes, and it is simply inevitable that someone will attempt to make a poor joke about Mexican food; a sure sign of the extent of their collective knowledge about other cultures.
Some will, admittedly, show shame at such a display of racism and will normally attempt to bring their non-racist credentials to the table: "I have a lot of Latino friends"; "It's only 'illegals' I don't like..." etc.
But with some logical thought and a little critical reading these pleas are normally shown to be false; it is possible to be a racist even with Latino "friends".
Cowardly denial of their own racist fears is yet another endearing trait of the modern day pseudo-patriot.
In frenzied posts rife with typos and bad grammar these pseudo-patriots speak of an "invasion" and yet that is all the cowards can do: cry and complain from the comfort of an easy chair.
With an astounding ignorance of U.S. history or any culture outside of Wal-Mart or McDonald's, these bigots type away behind the anonymity of a computer screen desperate to find other people who might share in their psychosis.
Scared and unable, or unwilling, to adapt and accept the inexorable march of history, the pseudo-patriots are a vanishing breed. We are witnessing the spasmodic thrashings of a dying political fish, gasping for life on the beach. Few, if any, will mourn their passing.
hey thumper...
for the record...
i post under one name...
and one name only...
the brilliant birdiedreamin...
no matter how many other times you repeat something to the contrary it does not make it true...
got that skippy...
sadly...
most sadly...
you are displaying a most common retarded republican trait...
anyway...
answer me this skippy...
weren't you the one who used to work in the construction business...
then got fired...
then had to move out of state...
and are extremely bitter about everything las vegas...
wasn't that you skippy???
In 20 years. Hispanics will be considered Whites. Just like the Italian, Irish, & Eastern Europeans were adopted into the White Race about 100 years ago. Solving the White Minority Issue. Also the language issue will go away when the the generations of Latinos have established themselves into the mainstream community. But the human rights issue should be solved simply. Document everyone we have in the US currently. Tax them and penalized them with not letting them get social security until the age of 75 or 20 years of documented work. Anyways, Mexico is going to have a Civil War caused by corruption and the drug lords and the US will have to protect the ourselves by annexing 10 or more northern Mexican States and well have them become out citizens in no time. So well end up with a new smaller border with Civil War ravaged Mexico. We'll create even more jobs building proper roads and inferstucture in our new states.
The only progressive idea Bush ever had, was to create a temporary-worker status that would allow legal entry, and have to be renewed after they stayed for a fixed period in the U.S. -- found a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth
Why does an illegal even have the right to suit or representation in this country? I consider this a dispute of the court system to begin with. No, they are not entitled to any money, earned or not. If you are here illegally, you take your chances on getting paid. If you do be happy, if not, well you took a risk. ICE should step in and load these petitioners up now before any type of court appearances and start the deportation process immediately, that should take care of any lawsuit. Makes it hard to prove your point with no "victims" available to testify, right? I mean, these people have already admitted to breaking several laws, either crossing the border illegally or overstaying a visitation visa, working in the US without a work visa, probably using fake, false, or stolen social security and identification documentation, falsifying government documentation and records, etc... So why does our taxpayer $$ have to be used to pay the court system to even hear these arguments in the first place? If section 287g of the IIRAIRA allows our jails to work with ICE to start deporting illegals, then let's apply it to our courts immediately and be done with this tax wasting way of handling these situations. Let 'em protest, when they do, round them up. Let them file lawsuits, when they appear in court, arrest and detain them. Let them apply for government services, instead of a food stamp card load them on a bus, let them seek care at the emergency room. Provide the minimum required by law to stabilize them and send them home (to their own country, of course), and quit abusing the 14th amendment by calling any kid born here a US citizen. Diplomats from other countries and visitors on a visa here from other countries that have a kid here do not get the right of citizenship for that child, the child is listed as a citizen of the country that they are subject to the jurisdiction thereof as it should be.
Ok, that's enough for me I guess... Anyways, no, don't pay them, don't hear their cases or arguments just deport them and conduct an investigation and fine the employer if necessary to discourage this practice from continuing in the future.
Illegal immigrants should be used a slave labor for breaking the laws of the United States. Then when they can't stand or work dump them across the border with a note saying if you come back you will be executed.
There are two easy solutions:
1.) send all the illegals back to their country.....
2.) vote all of the bleeding hearts out of office!!!
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Ahhh, the elegant prose of thumper.
EMBRACED by the SUN.
Bigotry is verrry popular here in the desert.
Don't you people have a tea party to get to?
When my great granddaddy arrived by ship, he did what he was supposed to do. He jumped through all the hoops. Now we're Americans.
Lotsa these newcomers want to be foreigners who live here, get free education, medical help and goolobs of free benefits.
I don't blame them for wanting good stuff, but how is that fair to us who provide their life for them?
Fix the fence. If you're tired of living on dirt and want to try civilization, America is a great place. It's a country of laws though. We made 'em to ensure civility and fairness. We have been quite civil; it's time to resurrect the fairness thing.
Gmag39 is not birdie. They are both reliable and significant contributors to this rag, but they are not the same person according to my trusty sense of style.
Bravo Pro should be fined for each undocumented worker and lose their business license. Management should spend a little time in jail for knowingly breaking the law. The company should be checked for additional undocumented workers.
The workers should receive their back pay, plus additional computation and then put on a bus and sent home.
So, "thump", when you scurried away from Las Vegas with your lil' tail between your legs (at least you have something there now!) where'd y'all end up... Clanton, Mississippi, by any chance?
p.s.
I think it's really cute that "the sun" is protecting you and your "delicate sensibilities" from the likes of me!
The hypocracy of illegals just kills me. Break my countries laws by comming here illegally and using identity theft (in some cases) to get a job, then use those same laws to sue companies that gave their illegal butts a job. Give me a break.
The illegals should be paid for backpay and overtime. If businesses find that they won't even get a slap on the wrist they will continue to hire illegals. With illegals on the payroll they can stiff them in every way imaginable. Of course, the Republicans support the hiring of illgeals because lower labor costs goes to the bottom line and investors are happy.
I think you are scared witless, if that's possible anymore, by the spector of people of "other skin color" and different customs coming to "Your Country", and their effect on the United States Of America. "They're stealing my tax money! WAAA! WAAA! WAAAAA!
I am ALL FOR hispanics from the country of Mexico becoming productive members of our society. I welcome them and accept them unequivically. The notion of "building a wall" to keep people out is abbhorant to me. If that's the most intelligent idea we can think of, we are screwed.
Illegal immigration needs to be put in check.
But those of you who think we can "round em' up and put em' on a bus back to Mexico" are dreaming.
These Illegal invaders should be deported already! Why are they allowed to dispute anything? They are in the commission of a crime by crossing the border with out a visa. Being in commission of a crime they are not aloud to benefit from said crime. They should be gathered up and striped of any assets they obtained while in this country illegaly. They have no rights under our laws and thats the end of it.
All the illegals should be punished for breaking the law. Every single one of them should be forced to pay a fine and then be deported. Any employer who has illegal employees should be fined as well. Deport all invading illegals and deport them now. By the way Im a Democrat.
illegal immigrant rights
That is the definition of an oxymoron
Vegasvampire is right -- in 10-20 years northern Mexico will be part of the US (and we'll all be speaking "Spanglish" anyway). La Raza & the Klan will still be here of course, but they'll continue their downward trend into obscurity as most of us move beyond racial preferences & quotas -- prefering a colorblind future to the separatist nostalgia & victimology being proffered by both left & right.
In the meantime, penalise employers for the hiring -- make them pay what they owe PLUS a 100% penalty. And support eVerify & Real ID -- the only way we'll ever get handle on this problem.
I rest my case, lil' guy.
You cannot penalize the employer unless you can prove that they knew the person was illegal. The Federal laws REQUIRE the employer to accept the various forms of identification as long as they look proper. An employer is not allowed to tell you which forms of identification to supply. They are suppose to supply you with the I-9 form which has a listing of acceptable forms of id and whether you need one or two.
I think one of the main reasons the Federal government allows the illegal immigration to continue is the Social Security and Medicare systems. The illegal immigrants pay in and have no way to collect. I wonder if the Federal government has ever analyized how much the States have to pay out vs how much the Federal government takes in. Unfunded mandate?
gtnla stated in an earlier post:
"Bravo Pro should be fined for each undocumented worker and lose their business license. Management should spend a little time in jail for knowingly breaking the law. The company should be checked for additional undocumented workers.
The workers should receive their back pay, plus additional computation and then put on a bus and sent home."
Case closed...
HELP STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.......MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD:
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/...
If we upped and shipped all those illegals out, we'd be really screwed!
Issue: Who's gonna pay?
Issue: How long before they're baa--aack?
Issue: Who's gonna pick the fruit, roof the apartments, mow the lawns, flip el burger, etc.???
Sad story: They are a part of OUR culture! We pay their doctors and dentists, teachers, cops, firemen, etc. We supply clean water, sewers, roads, justice, freedom and peace. And they come and go pretty much as they please.
Most Mexicans are the nicest people anybody could ever meet. They have an innate cultural respect for humanity and decency. So what is the deal? It doesn't seem to add up.
Sneaking over here to grab some money to send home is completely understandable. Sticking around and sellin dope for the homies is also part and parcel of our culture, and Mexicans got the dope so we can't really blame them for bringin' it when we want to smoke it all up and are willing to pay dollars, not pesos. I like Mexicans, but I really can't afford to support them here. It's a money issue more than a hate thing with me. It's a shame some US citizens don't like Mexicans. They're Americans too you know!
hey pyro,
classic post! I wish I had come up with it so I could use it and send it to everyone, everywhere!
If more people would just look at things with a critical eye and just realize that just because something can be done, maybe it shouldn't be done...
Just like certain things are about personal responsibility (Can I drive home drunk and kill a family of six on the way there? Probably Should I drive home drunk and kill a family of six on the way there? Absolutely not)
Can we bring in an undocumented and otherwise illegal workforce for the sheer motive of profit? yes we can...
Should we have thought about it beforehand and ACTUALLY ENFORCED THE LAWS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS BEFORE they are here? hmmm............................
Too late now, people...
sure hope those "undocumented" workers start to contribute more to the local and state economy so construction types like me with no job and no hope of a job can get help and take care of my own family...
To everyone else,
BEFORE you try to get after what I just wrote, please read the following BEFORE posting your response.
Yes, the employees of this dirtbag operation deserve back pay and whatever else they have have been wrongfully denied. Check the Bible under "A day's pay for a day's labor"
Yes, the dirtbag operation needs to be fined, owners or responsible parties jailed and company assets and obligations (i.e. existing contracts for services) be auctioned off to a company that actually performs its duties LEGALLY.
And yes, it's true you can't close the barn door after it's been opened for a long time and the horse has left the barn, but that doesn't mean you leave it open and continue to allow anyone to come in without regard for the law. CLOSE THE DOOR and DO IT NOW!!!
Typical MGM.
Yes the illegals should be delt with. Yes they should be deported. But that is not part of the Obama Reid plan. So us hardworking Americans will have to deal with it for the time being.
If they don't like working for $4.40 an hour don't work there, Quit. They should be happy with even having a job, they could be back in mexico pushing a farming rig behind a cow for pennies a day.
These aliens I mean Mexicans are greedy.
Mexican = greedy, non law abiding, cry baby that doesn't take any effort in learning english. Oh yeah I almost forgot, low hanging pants gangsters with 2nd grade educations.
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Back in the day, the remains of those that stiffed workers were typically found in garbage dumpsters.
:)
The crops are all in and the peaches are rotting
The oranges are filed in their creosote dumps
They're flying 'em back to the Mexico border
To take all their money to wade back again
Goodbye to my Juan, farewell Roselita
Adios mes amigos, Jesus e Maria
You won't have a name when you ride the big airplane
All they will call you will be deportees
My father's own father, he waded that river
They took all the money he made in his life
It's six hundred miles to the Mexico border
And they chased them like rustlers, like outlaws, like thieves
The skyplane caught fire over Los Gatos Canyon
The great ball of fire it shook all our hills
Who are these dear friends who are falling like dry leaves?
Radio said, "They are just deportees"
Is this the best way we can grow our big orchards?
Is this the best way we can raise our good crops?
To fall like dry leaves and rot on out topsoil
And be known by no names except "deportees"?
Being a geezer, I grew up hearin ol' Woody Guthrie on the radio. Ya get a certain spooky feelin when it's just you and Woodie in an ol' shack alone. It's like confession or prayer or wishin on a star for something that could never be. Pretty fine lyrics anyway.
gmag, thumper, and birdof dreams, if you babies want to argue, please get off these comment boards. You are all boaring. You all seem to have good comments here and there, but c'mon this baby crap has got to stop
airweare, how much is laraza or the ACLU paying you to post these comments? Are you a legal American citizen? What side of the Rio Grande are you protecting?
Sorry Thump, Just don't play their games.
If they are here illegally, they are breaking the law and deserve NOTHING!
"If they are here illegally, they are breaking the law and deserve NOTHING!"
The ignorance of the law, not to mention the social contract on here is just astounding.
All workers have rights and all employers have to abide by the law or else face the wrath of "THE HEAVY HITTER" or one of his contemporaries. I am glad to see that these workers will be getting paid soon for their service and that the employer will be getting fined, not to mention getting that arse taxed by the gov.
I have prophesied before as to why the so called Conservative Bush's, the Clintons, and now Obama wants undocumented workers in this country. The answer, albeit obvious, does not sit well with most ignorant white so called "Americans" (all north Americans are Americans, moronos!) The simple answer is that your so called constitution has been hijacked quite long time ago and there is NOTHING any of you can do about it! The people in charge of your federal government are foreign national globalists who want to establish a communist world government. In order to succeed, they have to do away with the middle class. They have to turn this into a third world country. They need to bankrupt medical and education institutions. They need a willing and able (anti-patriot) work labor force to keep the gov running once you know what hits the fan and civil unrest begins en mass. They need to cause race problems in order to keep the people from focusing on what is really happening to their government. In other words, there will never be a revolution because once civil unrest begins, the black will be looting from the whites and mexicans, the mexicans and blacks will be fighting, and people will have enough problems trying to protect their food and home let along take on the gov. Illegal immigration thus is part of a much bigger game plan. The damage has been done. Illegal will be given amnesty and will continue to milk the welfare system that soon won't be able to take care of legals who have paid taxes all their lives as our economic downturn continues over the next 4 years into a full blown depression and civil unrest. While dems and republicans fight and point fingers, blaming the other, neither side realizes that both sides are globalist traitors that have sold liberty down the river long, long ago. All that is left is to see how it plays out.
My dear frem...,
I was born in the heartland, traveled a bit worked my way around, even worked for Ringling Brothers and Barnum and Bailey's Greatest Show on Earth! But these posts are not work. He ain't heavy. He's my brother.
How is Woody Guthrie going to hurt understanding? It is understanding we are going towards, right? Not just a one-sided romp on Pablo because he's brown and dirty, speaks dumb and begs so politely to do anything you need because he's hungry but, unlike so many obese and incapable US citizens, Pablo will WORK for his rice and beans.
I am absolutely sure he is illegal. He waded or snuck, took the raft or the midnight truck. But that sliver of humanity has so much more goodness and benevolence in his sneaky illegal presence than so many who post here that it's incredibly sad for us that with all of our lucky toys--freedom, natural resources,smart ancestors who paved the way for this horde of ignorant, entitled, lazy, selfish and mean haters-- that we are this intolerant, exclusive and territorial.
Frem..., as I pointed out in one of my previous posts, you and I are paying for their doctors, teachers cops, lawyers, etc. You and I pay for their freedom, peace, clean water, specialized and individualized education programs in two languages. I am not approaching this issue under any fog. I think your accusatory questions identify you as one of these haters who, for reasons perhaps slightly less than conscious, fear the invasion. My friend, it is not new! Woody Guthrie sang about it in the middle of the last century. I even admit to having come from immigrants. If you did not, then you are a native. They are hated, discriminated against, murdered, tricked, drugged and spat upon by citizens with whom I share the constitution.
Reasonable policy comes from a realistic perspective. If you truly believe that your stance is realistic, considering the histories of our peoples and the 41,867,905 currently roaming our country w/o papers, building our homes, mowing lawns, washing dishes, cleaning and fixing, then you're off your meds.
One part of the problem is the US companies going to Mexico, recruiting workers and bringing them here for huge profits sucked and blackmailed out of their illegal status by the employer(slave owner)
A simple fix would be great! All the simpletons would be happy. Wasting money on a fence fifty feet high and tunnel proof down to fifty feet below earth might appease them. Hanging a few illegals would work. Get good footage of their little brown bodies swinging in the breeze and play it on big screens at the border!
Are you a legal US citizen, frem? Are you proud of your hate of the downtrodden? She says,"Give me your tired...huddled masses yearning to be free!" You say, "Deport the scum!"
And for your question about whom I protect. Not a whom, a what. A principle. Hard to believe, I know. A lot of you lucky entitled fools forget about it; yours came on a silver platter.
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I like Sign the Guest Book!
Shoot Pablo when he breaks in! or Fidel. Or Lee.
law is law. You couldn't find a stronger believer in the value of good law, swift punishment and constant enforcement.
What do you think of 51 states? Or 62 in the new flag? They got oil. Compared to the Bush doctrine of invasion, Mexico would greet us as liberators.
Poof, no illegals. Just Browns, blacks, whites, yellows, blends, Tiger Woods.. really cheap homes w/ ocean views, really cheap retirement for all of those who lost half our life savings under Bush.
Flush the toilet. Get Arnold to do a show and all the Republicans in Cali will come!
I think you people are better off keeping it under a chapter,Sometimes less is more.
Spock got me.
I was verbose. Mea culpa.
I had to say what I had to say.
My name is airweare and I'm an addict.
Heroin was nothin; this internet vitriol and community forum couple up on my weaknesses and, damn, i shoot off my stupid mouth. Too much.
LasVegas2009;
WHEW!
You are NOT WELL.
In 2050 most people in the United States will be the color of coffee with a little cream in it. In 2100 they'll be as brown as a coffee bean. My question is , Where are we gonna get enough lawns to cut to support these people.
Many of those illegals do work hard. Make them legal and suddenly hard work is not in their vocabulary. Those jobs that Americans supposedly won't do used to be done by Americans who were fired so that cheap incompetent employers could use illegals to make the big bucks. The jobs Americans will not do are jobs like Bravo Pro hands out. Slave labor and wages and when the jig is up the company sneeks into the night with their bundles of cash and set up someplace else.
this one guy. Thought people like you finally learned to quit playing the race card when they are too blinded to see reality. Guess not. The USA is broke. We do not need any more welfare guests. Since you so obviously love our guests from south of the border, how many do you wish to sponsor? You can feed and house them, and pay all their medical bills. You will guarantee that they will not be a public burden. How many do we put you down for? The overwhelming majority of legal Mexicans and those of Mexican descent don't want the illegals here either. Does that make them racist too?
Cheap illegal labor sends us back to the caves. Why buy machinery or innovate when cheap labor abounds. If we had not stamped out slavery we would still have thousands picking cotton from dawn to dusk in every field instead of a couple of guys with a few big machines. How many machines and processes that make todays world so advanced would never have been invented because it was too easy to use slave labor? Illegals, the 21st century version of slavery in America. Cheap slave labor lowers the standard of living for all but a few.
Who's the illegal alien, pilgrim?
airweare,If you want to more or less talk religion, love, respect, etc., how about do unto others as they do unto you? When these immigrants are illegally sneaking into our country,breaking federal laws, they are only thinking of themselves. All any concerned U.S. Citizen wants to see is respect to our laws. When they enter by their own will they are showing us that they could care less about anyone else and our laws.I know that there are U.S. citizens who have the same problem obeying our laws and many get caught and punished. So by upholding our laws and catching these federal criminals, deporting them, you are upset?
If your house got robbed would you get upset? Or would you say,"Oh those poor people needed my personal property more than I did? At what point would you put your foot down and say "NO MORE"? Thousands of U.S.citizens are sick and tired of whats going on because of people like you and our government who have their own agenda,, don't care, nothing gets done to correct the problem, and the situation gets worse.
It's a good thing people like you weren't around during the revolution or we'd still be under British control.
If you are telling me that I had everthing handed to me on a silver platter you are hilarious. I survived a massive brain hemmorage in 1986, a 2% that survived it at that time. I was 32 yrs old. I had total amnesia for months. It took me years to be able to get back to working construction. Yeah silver platter, you want some? Fool.
sorry, frem, it just seemed like your attitude was so-anti-immigrant, i felt it might be instructive to review the facts. We are a nation of immigrants, remember.
It's clearly not a case of don't care.
Beside you're quite young. You still have time to come around to seeing things with perspective and humanity.
Don't fine Bravo Pro, - send the officers and owners to prison. Send the illegals back to Mexico.
Wow. Do any of you pedantic blowhards know how to spell? How embarrassing.
Fremma..,
Most who post here are white bread with blinders to what happens in the rest of the world.
When the doctors let my momma die because she was black and it was the forties in the Jim Crowe South, I learned about the relationship between color and decency. Hasn't changed much, has it?
Frem.,
Your decision to impute to me that upholding the law is upsetting is quite upsetting. Never have I said laws are bad. I am a law-abiding citizen in a land of free speech. Shooting off my mouth about the apparent problem is not saying that laws are bad.
I am sorry about your medical thing. I have never faced a deal like that. Knock wood. I bet it helps you reflect on what's important in life.
Sgt Rock got it exactly right. Dems need oppressed people to keep the treadmill of reliance on the party going.
A lawsuit? What in the hell is wrong with this country? Throw the employer in jail for giving jobs to illegals and throw the illegals out of this country. What right do they have to file a lawsuit? It seems the law states that you cannot gain from an illegal act. That's what I've been led to believe in this country. How dare those heathen bastards work our system to get more money from us than they already get. $4.4o an hour plus free housing, food, medical, and every other thing our system provides them for free. That's about $30.00 an hour or more that they get for nothing other than being here illegally.
Hey sgt rock or whoever you are. hispanic woman are beautiful but not the hairy, fat, rounded Mexicans that we speak of.
Although I think illegal immigration is just another nail in the coffin, These people should be paid for the work they provided.That being said,They should be sent back to mexico on their own dime. This will allow them a couple weeks vaction to visit before coming back and resuming the norm.
Nothing but fear mongering, bad stereotypes, racist remarks and an astounding ignorance of the law.
The self centered crowd is over represented on these comment pages.
Maybe you teabaggers should start a petition to have the Statue of Liberty taken down. Since your ancestors made it here; why should you care if anyone else does.
One more time for the cheap seats: They only look different and speak a different language, they are still human beings don't be afraid cowards.
Crawl back into your gated communities the American spirit is dead and you selfish pseudo-patriots killed it.
As an American, I am entitled to treat others with indignity. After all, I have a free country. I did nothing to bring about or promote freedom, but it's mine and by God I'll kill any a-hole who treats my country bad. Like all these people trying to get freedom for themselves. I say kill 'em. Freedom is mine. Got it?
airhead: As Ray Charles used to sing, "What you say?" We are not a nation of immigrants, we are a nation of Americans.
uno: are you saying that the people who leave their shopping carts behind my parked automobile are here for freedom? Damm, I hadn't seen the nexus before, Dude.
Will someone please come up with a solution for all of these Lefties in our midst.
I hire them all the time.
If you cant compete with someone with no education and limited language skills, you are the problem.
I agree with thisoneguy-a bunch of loser "birthers" crying makes me sick.
I'd rather live next to the immigrants than these stupid white trash tea baggers.
Time to start laying off ICE workers who fail to enforce the laws they were hired for. I'm sure there are pleanty of people in line that would gladly take there positions. But its almost immpossiblr to fire a civil servant, Once there past there temp status, you have to wait for them to die or retire to get them out of there offices.
Nick: "I hire them all the time." Are you the guy who organizes the BS picketing at Walmart?
Tell me something,What part of the post that was submitted do you find incorrect? what's with the coward thing, who do you think is afraid? The self centered crowd, I think not my friend.I read your post and come with the realization that your comment on the poster (not the issue) is your own little self indulgent rant.Stick to the facts and try not to hurt yourself.
People who are here illegally are NOT ENTITLED to anything except to LEAVE. Illegal workers are taking jobs away from many people who would rather work those jobs and have benefits than to be unemployed and homeless. So they need to STFU & GTFO!
What happened to the "free market"?
Global economy. Learn to love it.
Get educated and stop complaining about competition.
But of course you hire them all the time,It's called "everybody wake up" While you try to start the pickup on your front lawn. How much money can you make driving them to the nursery or home center?
This one guy, I just have to correct you on your comment so don't worry, if you learn this time, you won't have to take the 9th grade over again.
Mexicans do not have a race they have a nationality. In the country of Mexico, Mexicans have races. American citizens who have Mexican heritage are considered to be of the Mexican race. Your comment about citizens making racist remarks against Mexicans is all wrong and the ignorance of the law seems to be coming from your side only. We have no ignorance of the law, just facts. Come into our country illegaly you WILL be deported. Don't worry, we forgive you for your ignorance, but if you continue to rant and rave foolishly your ignorance will become stupidity.
The fact you call us self centered , again is wrong. We are politically correct. Oh no, I didn't back you into a corner , did I?
My ancestors came into the U.S. legally, how about yours? Is this why we see the un-needed hostility out of you, because you feel guilty?
You have been the only one to bring up a fact on this post that some people look different. Some people speak different languages. What else is new in the U.S? The ones that are breaking our Immigration laws should be deported.
I don't think the American spirit is dead, our posts seemed to upset your unpatriotic arse. If our spirit ever does falter, it will be because of people like you with an unpatriotic attitude and our Governments unwillingness to uphold the federal laws we have in our United States.
Det. Munch.......our ancestors "did not" become legals citizens...they were legal citizens when they entered this country through the front door as so many did before them. There are NO legal rights to an illegal...period.These illegals have no intentions of "immigrating" or becoming an American...no intentions at all.The law I'd like to see changed immediately is having the babies on U.S soil and anchoring the baby and their family to this soil forever.Illegal is illegal...period.
The government of the USA down to the local level are playing ignorant about a lot of systems failures on how it is being manipulated by, if not most, all of the Illegals in every sector of the country. One such failure which drains financial resources at the expense of the taxpayers: Illegal women, as soon as they are ready to conceive, as early as 12 years old, would plan to give birth intermittenly to be able to qualify, among other great benefits, for the best health care for the rest of their life. In California and other states, a law has been created to treat anyone in the urgent care and emergency rooms of hospitals before asking any questions. For a simple headache or colds, these "Illegals" are given a complete and a very expensive routine check up and treatment. After which, "they" would ask for prescription of "over the counter" medicine, food and taxi fare going back home. Because of the "Law" to "to treat first before asking questions", if not contented with the treatment of one hospital, they would (for fun perhaps) go to another hospital. These "Illegals" after treatment would give out wrong addresses, wrong telephone numbers, and come in to the hospital at 1:00 to 5:00 a.m. to avoid traffic and at this times, information about them can not be confirmed. Think about it, all the sick and cancer patients who can cross over the border could get treatment in the U.S. because of this "Law" to "treat first before asking questions". No wonder our health care system is bankrupt and a failure, and the taxpayer has to accommodate all these leaches.
ICE ICE BABY
ICE Agents are ready and willing to enforce the immigration laws of the U.S. They are being held back by political posturing by our elected officials.
Back on the campaign trail, Obama stated that the ICE "terrorist" type raids on businesses that hire illegal immigrants must stop.
After the election, the head of DHS, Janet Napolitano has issued instructions to ICE Agents to back off these high profile raids.
Of course don't forget the sanctuary cities that won't notify ICE when they pick up an illegal alien who has committed a crime.
feemammasmind
You keep proffering your odd-ball theory on racism, I'll give you credit for your persistence, but in reality your concept of what is, and is not racism, is simply incorrect. So try again. (Hint: an Anthropology book or maybe a dictionary might help you out with that)
The pseudo-patriots always show an ignorance of the laws. Sure they shout, sputter and spit about what they THINK the law should be, but normally they are way off of the mark.
I point out your racist fears are more than likely based on the fact that people from other countries sometimes don't look Lilly White, but despite that, they are still human beings so really, don't be afraid. I'm betting you don't hate Canadians or cry every time you see a hockey player like you do when you see someone with a name you are not familiar with.
And the American Spirit is actually based on immigration, that and a fearlessness that few seem to possess anymore.
Your gated community awaits.
Maybe we can sell the Statue of Liberty and build some more walls.
In my humble opinion,I think most of us are immigrants!!!!remember Nevada and 4 other states were part of Mexico?...Where are those Indians who really owend these territories???Yea we all go back,when the May Flower and its people goes back too!
The issue of illegal citizens working without proper documentation is key to the debate over immigration. When I hear story such as this the first thought that comes to mind is something must be done for both the workers rights and the laws of the land. President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation on January 1, 1863 in order to outlaw indentured servitude but 163 years later a type of servitude still exists. Yes both the employer and the works broke the law but who is more to blame? The person that manipulates scared; desperate works into working 13-hour days, 7 days a week for less then the federal/state minimum wage and no overtime? Or is it the workers struggling to live a dream trying to give more to their children in our great country? Unfortunately they took the illegal rout to trying to accomplish this dream, but through their latest actions it is evident that they are trying to attempt the legal avenue now.
These works should be entitled to their back pay and should be fined a percentage for working without proper documentation. They are doing the right thing by attempting to obey America's capitalistic laws by suing for their damages owed by their employer. The employer should lose his business license and be fined the maximum amount. I came to this conclusion on two reasons first, he broke the law by hiring illegal workers and second, only the scum of the earth takes advantage of the helpless. I see the later as a form of rape. Rape is inexcusable in either aspect physically or emotionally. I truly hope the United States Justice System upholds the rights of the under represented and hardworking scapegoats that are America's labor force. Without a civil debate over what is right and wrong regarding America's workforce we will continue to recondite with this subject.
"Carry out the republican principle of universal suffrage, or strike it from your banners and substitute 'Freedom and Power to one half of society, and Submission and Slavery to the other." (Ernestine Rose)
Lon, I think it's time for bed...
thanks for the chuckle, Larry.
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Ah yes, the Trojan Horse many centuries later, Who is their Hellen of Troy.
Freedom and justice for all
Bravo Pro Maintenance excecutives should be arrested and charged with hiring illegals. ICE should pull a sting by offering these illegals their so called owed monies at Bravo Pro Maintenance and when they show up to collect arrest and deport them. All documented immigrants should continue with their law suit and hopefully will succeed against these dirtbags.
"Your" does NOT mean "you are".
And do you even know what neo means?
Crystal ball your own self into that brown skin for one second, and ya know who'd be wadin or truckin, human cannon ballin or tunnelin.
I say a huge round of applause is deserved by those workers who, though bleedin screwed, stood up with absolutely nothin to lose and cried foul believin that in a land better than their own, there might possibly be some kind of justice.
"...blah blah blah"?
I understand you have no real points to make so you have been reduced to spelling out sounds.
Good job.
And I am all for a progressive tax hike to pay for more social programs.
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Want a cheap labor program? Use the California Prisoners to farm our crops. Make them work off their debt to society.
airweare, I'd stand up and give a huge applause for these illegals in our country, if they would go back to their country of origin and stand up to their government to increase and solidify their rights in their country. Our U.S. ancestors did it to start our country and we have been fighting to better our rights ever since.
Today, we have immigrants who enter our country illegally and want a piece of the pie that we and our ancestors have fought for, for over 200 years. If they had any patriotic backbone in them they would stay in their country and march in their streets for their rights and freedoms. Strength in numbers.
I guess it's easier to come into our country where our government won't even lift a finger to uphold our laws and arrest and deport them because they are federal criminals. They just break the laws we have fought to uphold for many years, then turn around and expect our courts to represent them and side with them on issues that wouldn't have happened if they had never had broken our federal immigration laws to begin with. All this energy which could be spent in their country to strengthen their rights.
Vegasvampire, that is the best post on the board, to bad to libs won't let that happen.
I love it when the grammar police show up. They have nothing of substance to add, so they grade papers.
Jail the owners of this skeeve business and deport the misguided, freedom loving, family orientated, hard working yet still illegal aliens.
Come in the front door, don't sneak around to the back door. Legal entry costs the same as a coyote, it just takes longer.
"Legal entry costs the same as a coyote, it just takes longer."
Don't forget it's much safer. You don't have to whisk your wives and daughters by the Rape Tree Trail when you come here legally. Coyotes abandon you, rape your women, steal your money, sometimes kill you, and even when they get you here can hold you hostage for more money!
You're a good man, Frem.
Most who dislike the situation lack your acceptance of reality that needs to change. And quick!
I can't afford to take care of myself really well. I don't think it's right to ask me to pay for illegals.
But people in need of help are stuck wherever they are. Helping stuck people is a human no-brainer. Especially where the lady says, "Give me your tired, huddled masses yearning to be free!"
This is actually one hell of a predicament. Damned if we do, damned if we don't.
I'm for annexation. Alaska. Hawaii. Mexico.
They got oil, nice people and great views of the ocean for a couple a hundred pesos.
If we did the annex, I'd move in a heartbeat to the 51st state.
They'd greet us as liberators!
End of immigration issue? not quite!
Someone asked who would do the jobs that illegals do? Well I will tell you, our teenagers... They need low paying jobs to show themselves work ethic. I am a legal greencard holder and my father came to the US on a work visa and applied for a greencard. The illegals need to be kicked out. There is ways to come here legally, yes it takes time and is hard and expensive. But totally worth it. I love this country and Do Not put the Canadian Flag all over my car and house. I choice to live here as an AMERICAN. I do not expect anyone to give me free anything (not even healthcare). I do not refuse to say the pledge or show respect when its announced. I show pride that I am allowed to be part of this Country that has done and giving so many so much.
You want to get the illegals out? Then quit hiring them, mandate verification on employment through a federal program online. And tax the crap out of any wire transfers sent out of the country, about 30% sounds fair, put it into a fund for schools, hospitals and jails . In 2005 the US goverment said wire transfers to Mexico was 9.6 billion, 30% of that would be about 28 million. They will either apply for citizenship or leave. Of course, my outlook could be the difference between North and South of the border!
why are the unions protecting illegal workers???? they should be helping to maintain legal status employable people, not those who undercut their own members.
I get the feeling that union representatives are being told what to do. Other wise as American citizens they would know the damage they are doing to the American citizen. I don't really care because at this point in time they feel they are untouchable, and while their American ticket holders(members) are suffering they are doing absolutely nothing to correct the problem.
I was talking to an American carpenter not to long ago and asked him why his hall was letting illegals into their union and taking jobs away from the U.S. citizens. He told me that they have a Hispanic business manager and that if they, the members, show any resistance to what is going on they have been told they would lose their ticket(membership) in their local and never get another job. So, try and report any illegal activity and lose your job, forever? How can our elected officials get away with this? To threaten American citizens with their livelyhood to where they feel they can't report any legal activity without losing their job. BLACKBALLED! We as Citizens must dig deep into our souls for existence and find a way to let our Government know that they are not doing their job. This is telling his majesty Prince Harry that he'll be back to selling a piece of land for another piece of land if he doesn't become an American and start representing his constituents.
Who is it exactly that you think is telling the unions what to do? Obama? Pelosi? The trilateral commission? Maybe if we get them tinfoil hats they will quit taking orders from the Illuminati.
And let me point out that union officials are not our "elected officials". Your post seems to confuse government and union officials.
Thisoneguy, democracy is alive and well in our unions as we vote for our administrators who run our locals.