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twitterReid: Kennedy a ‘model of public service and American icon’
Published Tuesday, Aug. 25, 2009 | 11:10 p.m.
Updated Wednesday, Aug. 26, 2009 | 7:17 a.m.
Sen. Edward Kennedy speaks on the first day of the Democratic National Convention at the Pepsi Center in Denver.
This is the front page of the Las Vegas Sun from Feb. 10, 1975 featuring a story on bugging by Howard Hughes. It describes an affidavit by a former CIA agent who said bugs were placed in an attempt to put Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., in a compromising position in a Las Vegas hotel and phone taps on former Gov. Grant Sawyer, then Gov. Mike O'Callaghan and Sun Publisher Hank Greenspun.
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, the liberal lion of the Senate and haunted bearer of the Camelot torch after two of his brothers fell to assassins' bullets, has died at his home in Hyannis Port after battling a brain tumor. He was 77.
For nearly a half-century in the Senate, Kennedy was a steadfast champion of the working class and the poor, a powerful voice on health care, civil rights, and war and peace. To the American public, though, he was best known as the last surviving son of America's most glamorous political family, the eulogist of a clan shattered again and again by tragedy.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid released the following statement early Wednesday on Kennedy's death:
“The Kennedy family and the Senate family have together lost our patriarch. My thoughts, and those of the entire United States Senate, are with Vicki, Senator Kennedy’s children, his many nieces and nephews, and his entire family.
“It was the thrill of my lifetime to work with Ted Kennedy. He was a friend, the model of public service and an American icon.
“As we mourn his loss, we rededicate ourselves to the causes for which he so dutifully dedicated his life. Senator Kennedy’s legacy stands with the greatest, the most devoted, the most patriotic men and women to ever serve in these halls.
“Because of Ted Kennedy, more young children could afford to become healthy. More young adults could afford to become students. More of our oldest citizens and our poorest citizens could get the care they need to live longer, fuller lives. More minorities, women and immigrants could realize the rights our founding documents promised them. And more Americans could be proud of their country.
“Ted Kennedy’s America was one in which all could pursue justice, enjoy equality and know freedom. Ted Kennedy’s life was driven by his love of a family that loved him, and his belief in a country that believed in him. Ted Kennedy’s dream was the one for which the founding fathers fought and his brothers sought to realize.
“The liberal lion’s mighty roar may now fall silent, but his dream shall never die.”
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he was a bleeding heart liberal that led to the sad state our country is in now.
I won't be watching Fox News or any of the news channels for the next few days while they go overboard on the coverage and importance of this guy.
Looks like I'll be watching ESPN and the Weather Channel for the next few days.
You know how they say when you die you are greeted by people from your past?
I wonder if Mary Jo Kopechne was there.
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chappaquiddick
You people are disgusting.... the man just died of a terrible debilitating disease. I don't care if it's the most extreme left or right person in the country... There is no excuse for taking cheap shots at the dead.
... The first 5 comments on this story--from average Joe Americans like yourselves--reflect this vile disrespect for human life... and yet somehow it's Ted Kennedy's fault that the nation is in it's current "sad state".
I never much cared for Ted Kennedy's political agenda or his forcefulness, but my thoughts go to his family at this time. Rest in peace.
jeff,
What kind of respect is shown for human life when one drives a car into Lake Chappaquiddick, leaves a young woman there to drown to death, and fails to call the police? Some people might call that murder.
At least Ted had the luxury of dying at a ripe old age, unlike Mary Jo.
Hey Jeff, you think Ted Kennedy would have cared if you died?
Just like you, I have no idea what exactly occurred at Chappaquiddick. If he is truly guilty of malice or deadly cowardice, then I expect he will be judged accordingly.... but I am not that judge.
All I know is that this is a man who, for good or bad, dedicated his life to his country according to what he believed in. I just think that taking jabs at a man who's been dead for a matter of hours, based on speculative information, is in very poor taste.
No Pete, I don't... Then again, I didn't serve in the Senate for 50 years.
You don't have to like the man. He most certainly wasn't my favorite Senator. But his contributions to this country (whether you approve of them or not) were very significant and certainly newsworthy.
Disgusting! An American hero has passed, and all we hear from the fundie wingnuts is this crap. News Flash: No one is perfect! Hell, even George W. Bush did cocaine and got arrested for a DUI. At least Sen. Kennedy remembered who put him into office and worked every day to help the poor, help the minorities, help all of us who are often conveniently forgotten by those in power.
I wish we had more people in office who truly care about public service like Sen. Kennedy did. May he RIP.
Kennedy's actions that night in July 1969 left him with some tough decisions. Try to save and get help for your partner or go home and call a lawyer? He chose the latter, much as something Reid would do.
Well, all of you jerks must be rich and don't care that wages of worker were protected because Senator Kennedy pushed to pass the minimum wage.
He basically created COBRA and the OSHA system to protect workers. The list goes on and on and all you idiots can focus on is something that happened in the 1960's.
I would like you to name one republican who did half as much for the American people. I'm not talking about the TOP 3% (rich) I mean the rest of us...the 97% of working men and women who are the REAL America.
I believe if the Lake Chappaquiddick incident happened today, he would never have gotten away with it. And, therefore would not be glorified as he is today.
I think it is a sad state of affair that the media is going to ramble on for days for this man who through his own neglect killed a woman.
And, the fact is... he did leave the scene of the "accident". He walked away. She died.
atdleft,
You know who doesn't think Ted was an American hero? Mary Jo Kopechne!
jack,
You know who else doesn't care about how Ted Kennedy created COBRA and OSHA?
Mary Jo Kopechne!
Lefty: his wealthy and influential family put him in office. Please don't think he ever achieved anything meritorious on his own. I hope he rests in peace.
henderson...CAN you name a republican who did half as much for the American people?
Btw...didn't Cheney shoot someone in the face and got away with it???
Didn't Bush and Cheney LIE to the American public in order start a war in Iraq that has killed over 6,000 Americans???
What about Nixon???
Dear JustTheFactsJack,
The person that Cheney shot didn't die. He is still alive to be able to press charges if he wanted to. Mary Jo Kopechne didn't have the "pleasure" to do this.
Making vile comments about the recently dead says a lot more about you than it does of the deceased.
And what it says about you as a human being isn't good.
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Jack,
Just because you still earn the minimum wage doesn't mean I do.
I haven't earned the MINIMUM anything for thirty years. The minimum wage is designed for teenagers with acne. The Dems have turned it into a career with their ignorant policies.
I am glad the ignorant Libs think Teddy was for the poor. A man from one of the richest families in america whose only link with the poor was the servants he hired.
His death has renewed my faith in god.
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jack,
I can name a ton of republicans that didn't kill a woman.
getalife...you really need to...I make well over minimum wage and I am not a liberal.
henderson...so I guess the answer is NO, you can not name a republican that has done half as much for the American people as Ted Kennedy did.
Your responce is what I expected from the party of Hate.
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I see GOD is channeling the Sun today.
Thru Henderson, poker ray, getalife, petergun, sincitygal, stevem, rejco100, mrjb...
Go look in the mirror and ask yourself;
"Am I that perfect that I can sit in judgement of another?"
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gmag39,
I didn't kill anyone.
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He is the perfect example of the golden rule------them that gots the gold makes the rules. He did more destruction than good in the Senate. Plus drove his first wife almost crazy.
jack, I'm not playing your game today because this is not about party lines, this is about the passing of Senator/Murderer Ted Kennedy.
May God bless Mary Jo and Ted Kennedy.
gmag, you sit in judgement of people every day right here on the Sun's comments section!
"Got ourselves some typical "good" Christians in here, I see."
What is so wrong with hoping there is REAL justice in this Universe? Justice is certainly something mankind can't administor. Just watch the news and you'll understand.
All of Kennedy's accomplishments pale in comparison to the tawdry death of Mary Jo Kopechne and Kennedy riding a Camelot horse away from it.
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I don't care, "ray". Each and every one of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
I'm SAYING that it's bad form for ANYONE to dance on the grave of a recently deceased PERSON.
Jack: Let's start with Abraham Lincoln.
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I see the death of Ted Kennedy has brought out the worst in many of those who sleep over on the right.....no surprise there!
It's not hard to understand why this country is so polarized when you look at the comments on this board....
Ted Kennedy was not perfect but who of us are? History will deal with the legacy of Kennedy and time alone will place him in a proper perspective...
Abe Lincoln said it best...."There's a little bit of good in the worst of us and a little bit of bad in the best of us..."
Teddy Kennedy -- RIP!
las vegas sun, it's disgusting that your allowing posts for this article. shame on you. when stations founder died last week you removed posts because of negative comments, sure can see the born agains are having fun with someone's death. of course there is no shame for some of you lowlifes...............
"Abe Lincoln said it best...."There's a little bit of good in the worst of us and a little bit of bad in the best of us...""
Abe Lincoln never met Ted Kennedy
You know, El Lobo, it's not just the polarization that I see.
It's hatred, pure & simple.
Ted's dead, but the right needs to pull out a sword and eviscerate him while he's still in a drawer in the morgue.
There are many ways to express oneself...
As I tell my children, "it's not what you said, it's how you said it."
Now go to your room!
Ted Kennedy has spent the last 40+ years living with the ghosts of his brothers and Mary Joe as well as the guilt and demons left behind by that incident. He has also been the ultimate politician working across the isles of the Senate to accomplish much good. Many of the bills his name was attached to also had a good strong Republican also attached as a co-sponsor. Ted Kennedy didn't try to polarize issues to get them passed, but found common ground to work from. If he had been active in the Senate for the last 6 months, a comprehensive healthcare reform would probably have been passed with prominent Republicans signing on. He will be missed by all, whether they acknowledge it or not.
Wow... this is truly appalling... I literally feel sick reading some of these comments. Unbelievable.
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henderson, I don't think Mary Jo & Teddy went to the same place...so it's very unlikely they'd "run" into each other.
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"henderson, I don't think Mary Jo & Teddy went to the same place...so it's very unlikely they'd "run" into each other."
I'm sure Ted got his right to judgment and I hope Mary Jo got front row seats. I also hope she got to push the down button on the elevator for Teddy. As before, I hope there's no booze in hell.
It's so wonderful and "Christ-Like" how many of you are FORGIVING of Teddy's past behavior, but not so forgiving for millions of others with LIFE-LIMITING FELONIES & PRISON RECORDS for doing the EXACT SAME THING, or less!
poker_ray, There A LOT of BOOZE in Hell, and a lot of other stuff too; the only thing missing in Hell is God!
"It's so wonderful and "Christ-Like" how many of you are FORGIVING of Teddy's past behavior, but not so forgiving for millions of others with LIFE-LIMITING FELONIES & PRISON RECORDS for doing the EXACT SAME THING, or less!"
Our forgiveness doesn't matter...only God's. Ted NEVER showed any remorse. If he did he would have fessed up and taken his punishment (now, thank God, he'll have to). His family paid the Kopechne's $50K to forget the whole thing. I doubt if God will think that makes things even.
Has hell frozen over? formervegas just stood up for a fat, rich, white guy!
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I just saw a big banner on the screen of FOX NEWS that said......
"The Nation Mourns the Passing of Senator Ted Kennedy"
Ha Ha, LOL
Doesn't seem like too much of the nation is mourning on this comment section right now.
Just gotta laugh at the stuff you see on television.
Wonder how many people in America are sitting at work in their cubicle feeling bad and mourning and weeping because TED Kennedy is dead.
LOL
I won't be flying my flag at half mast (unless news of a soldier's death is announced).
Leave it to the Republicans to be tacky and distasteful...
A wise man once commented that Ted Kennedy's critics will always revile him for doing a horrible thing that many of them might well have done and some of them may actually have done.
His stupidity took a human life and he never paid the price that most of us would have paid, but he may have paid or be paying a price that we cannot know or want to imagine. He also dedicated himself to improving other people's lives, and a lot of people have health care, an education, a decent meal in their stomachs, or perhaps all three because of him. The only thing that most of the people making their sick comments in this forum will have contributed to the world by the time they die is pollution of the air and the mind.
Perhaps the sickest comment about Kennedy's passing was by hate talk radio "BOSS" Jack Landreth on KXNT'S MORNING SOURCE SHOW WHO SAID: "KENNEDY'S DEATH MEANS LESS RAPE AND LESS MURDER." (SIC)
It's not about forgiving or even supporting Ted Kennedy as a senator. I certainly haven't done either of these. It's simple human decency. I can't imagine ever finding happiness, joy, or a reason to joke about somebody's death. It takes a sick individual to take pleasure in someone's passing.
I would say that Teddy is now with Mary Jo, but the reality is he is probably in a very different place.
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Later dude! Well,I wonder if had enough time to change the law for his replacement? You know the he had switched for kerry. No more than a glorified scoundrel.
Out of respect for his family, I will not use this forum to bash Kennedy, Although I have freely done so in the past, today is not the day. Mr.Kennedy was polite and respectful when Nixon and Reagan died, I'll do the same for him. However, I will say this: Harry Reid is an Idiot.
Nice to see republican hate is alive and well !!!
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Since the majority of the pseudo-patriots don't care about anyone but themselves why would anyone expect them to display decency, tact or couth over an event like this?
The party of the "pro-lifers", the "family values" party, the same clowns ignorantly wringing their hands over imagined "death panels" are really the party of war, selfishness, the death penalty and sociopathic behavior.
Sick, sick people.
"Yes Bertsos, Republicans hate murderers."
No they don't, they elected, supported and re-elected a guy who sent thousands of our bravest to die in Iraq, for no reason.
Republicans love murderers and defend torturers.
My condolences to his family. Personally, I couldn't stand the man and don't think he should have been in Congress after getting away with murder, but hey, he's a Kennedy right. They're Special!
Kennedy's body isn't even cold and half the people here want to throw a party.
Disgusting - go back under the rocks with the rest of the slime if you don't have anything of substance to say.
haters, you know stupid is a pre-existing condition, better get on health reform.
Ted Kennedy did not even know that Kopecnei was in the car. She had crawled into and fallen asleep in the back seat durring the party. She was very drunk and had a huge crush on Kennedy. Kennedy and another women left to go to another party. He and the women escaped the crash and left....not knowing about mary jo. He did not say anything because he was with another women and was married at the time. By the time he found out about Maryjo it was too late.
Ronald "Joey" Sellers might have appreciated being the recipient of Teddy's perforated liver. And then again, he might not.
IT'S NOW 3:30PM EASTERN TIME, AND OUR ESTEEMED SENATOR HARRY REID, DEMOCRAT MAJORITY LEADER OF THE U.S. SENATE, HAS NOT HAD THE COURTESY TO MAKE A STATEMENT OF PRAISE AND CONDOLENCE ON TELEVISION CONCERNING THE LATE SENATOR TED KENNEDY.
ALL OF THE SECOND AND THIRD TIER SENATORS (SCHUMER, BAUCUS, DODD) ARE ON ALL OF THE NETWORK AND TV STATIONS GETTING AIR TIME.
THE LVRJ'S ARTICLE DESCRIBES SENATOR REID BEING IN LAS VEGAS TODAY, AND PROVES THAT HARRY IS NOT OFF IN THE WILDERNESS ON VACATION. HE HAS BEEN WITHIN 5 MILES OF 4 NETWORK AFFILIATE TV STATIONS ALL DAY.
IT'S HARRY REID'S JOB, AS DEMOCRAT MAJORITY LEADER, TO BE ON TV TODAY AS LEADER OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN THE SENATE, TO BE ON TV ON THIS ISSUE THIS MORNING, THIS AFTERNOON.
INSTEAD, SENATOR REID IS SILENT ON NATIONAL TV.
ARE SENATOR REID AND HIS PRESS STAFF COMPLETE MORONS?
I REALIZE HARRY REID WAS BROUGHT UP IN A MINING CAMP, BUT HE'S REACHED A POSITION WHERE GOOD MANNERS ARE EXPECTED AND HE'S CERTAINLY MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR POSITIVE NATIONAL TV EXPOSURE.
"Ted Kennedy did not even know that Kopecnei was in the car. She had crawled into and fallen asleep in the back seat durring the party. She was very drunk and had a huge crush on Kennedy. Kennedy and another women left to go to another party. He and the women escaped the crash and left....not knowing about mary jo. He did not say anything because he was with another women and was married at the time. By the time he found out about Maryjo it was too late."
If you believe this crap you're dumber than edgewise.
There is a lot of self-hatred here. It isn't really hatred for Ted Kennedy; it's the hatred that the people spewing this venom feel for themselves and their own wretched lives.
But it's a sign of what happens when you let Review-Journal editorial writers onto the internet.
Murder is pretty strong for all you "get it right" partisans. Seems to me, and I was wrong once, it would be categorized as MANSLAUGHTER. You know the unwilling kind.Despite what you say, I don't think he had the thought "I am going to get drunk and kill Ms.Kopechne" Saying it, would be along the lines of slander, which would leave you open to your own legal, self inflicted consequences!!
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Poker_Ray, I trust that you will post something now about how using family connections to avoid going to war and problems with his drug abuse makes George W. Bush morally evil?
Reason Magazine says this is hopefully the end of an era http://reason.com/news/show/135658.html
But they do note that he was instrumental in NCLB, deregulating the airlines and interstate trucking. Not exactly what his progressive Big Government fanboys want you to know about him.
"Poker_Ray, I trust that you will post something now about how using family connections to avoid going to war and problems with his drug abuse makes George W. Bush morally evil?"
I don't believe I praised Bush in any of my posts...and I won't start.
Dr. Green, stop the partisan RJ hate, you get published in there all the time...like today.
I see the liberal police from this rag are going through and deleting the comments they don't like. So much for freedom of speech.
It's a private newspaper, not a public forum, and if you would take five seconds to read the terms and conditions that you agreed to, you would see that your comments are at the mercy of the Sun's webmaster.
But then you didn't bother reading it, did you poker?
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What, you mean there are RULES here that we abide by in order to post? That's "socializm!"
You are clearly infringing on poker's CIVIL RIGHTS!
The great part about this life we lead is that it will someday end. Who cares how we are judged by our peers, to me, all I care about is how I'm remembered by my kids, wife, and how I'm judged by God.
Many people with a liberal big government pro-Castro world view loved this guy. People who appreciated the fact they could get knocked up and then have the tax payers "get rid" of the baby growing in them loved this guy. Of course, people with the opposite world view disliked this guy and celebrate this day for there is one less "bad guy" calling shots in the US Congress. Is it wrong to be happy when someone you consider a bad person bites the dust? I donno, I think it's human nature. I wouldn't go to his funeral and heckle the priest or sermon, that would be disrespectful. Is it disrespectful to post this diatribe on the wake of his death? No, that's my right as an American. What about showing some respect for those who morn his loss and loved the guy? If you liked this guy, please don't read an opinion page as you're sure to read some not so flattering comment. To me, this is a glorious day and I will go out and celebrate tonight as if my team won the super bowl! I'll make sure not to tell anyone at the restaurant, what if they are libs and spit in my food? The bible says that Jesus will someday come back and the "bad guys" will bite the dust en mass and 1000 years of peace will ensue. Imagine all of the corrupt and evil politicians dropping dead on one day, Reid, Clinton's Bush's, etc. Boy I hope I live to see that day! This however is just a small taste of satisfaction that will be multiplied by 1000 on that glorious day!
look at all these ugly republicans spewing their hate...
spewing their ugliness...
the man is dead...
who the hell would want to become a republican...
what an ugly lot!!!
Enough comments on this dead politician (103 comments so far). Let's spend more time commenting on things more important like the struggling economy.
"who the hell would want to become a republican..."
I guess anyone who doesn't want to live in a Socialist country.
"Enough comments on this dead politician (103 comments so far). Let's spend more time commenting on things more important like the struggling economy."
Right, now that you've commented several times slandering the name of the recently departed, LET'S MOVE ON!
"I guess anyone who doesn't want to live in a Socialist country."
Just yesterday the man in charge in your party was hailing socialized medicine. Yup, ol Michael Steele sold out your "SOCIALIZM!" dogma to appeal to seniors on Medicare.
Some people just aren't bright enough to see reality. Keep thinking the Republicans are looking out for your interests poker!
right wing milita alive and well in vegas valley.
I just went and reviewed some of the comments that were removed. I had a previous window opened from before they wiped out the comments.
Sometimes there is no rhyme or reason as to why they delete one comment and not another. I wish they would email us and tell us specifically why a comment was deleted.
Smells like censorship.
Would Kennedy have approved of harry with his rifle hunting votes amongst the NRA folks? Harry doesn't know who he is and neither do his constituents. He is a rural sensible man before an election and a flaming liberal in lock step with Pelosi after the election.
No, Henderson, smells like decency.
I'm getting the feeling that you liberals think that a senator having sex with a staffer is a lot worse than a Senator driving drunk and killing a staffer.
I just don't get it. Can any one of you help me understand this logic please?
R.I.P. Senator Kennedy.
"I'm getting the feeling that you liberals think that a senator having sex with a staffer is a lot worse than a Senator driving drunk and killing a staffer."
Not a single commenter said anything near that. Your straw man arguments are weak and easily knocked down.
The right-wing mob is particularly disgusting and illogical today.
Hi Henderson.
I can answer that.
Both are sins, the later being a crime as well. I personally am more disgusted by the hypocritical Repubican who cheats on his wife than the drunk liberal who gets away with doing what all rich people do, get away with murder. In other words, Ted was just doing what rich people do, nothing out of the ordinary. To me, when someone who claims to be a "good guy' crosses the line, let them go sell life insurance with all of those disgraced homo televangelists, I have not sympathy for them. I don't "hate" them for being human, and I don't judge them for sinning, I only expect that those who profess to be a lamb and who are exposed as being a wolf are no longer accepted into the flock of lambs! Let them go troll with the wolves if that's what they choose, go to the Red Roster, join a swingers club, by all means, knock yourself out and have some fun and live it up! Just don't thy and represent me, you don't! Let it be written, let it be done!
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sergio,
You are more disgusted with adultery and hypocrisy than murder? Wow!
How I treat Kennedy and Ensign? Refresh my memory.
Is saying Kennedy should "Rest in Peace" hero worship? Only in your little world.
For the record, I would give Ensign the same respect if he were to pass away. I'm an adult that way... unlike too many of the fellow commenters here today.
That's your straw man argument, henderson.
Taking a page out of your buddy, Ensign's, book, Ted Kennedy did nothing illegal. He was never convicted of murder, and never would have been. Murder requires intent.
I guess Ensign just slipped and fell on that woman several dozen times, right?
The Ensign/Kennedy comparison is a red herring.
Reid & Kennedy: two bloated, career politicians! Harry should have done us all a favor and sat on Mary Jo's lap when Ted went drunk-driving in '69. Sport's!
Ted Kennedy didn't murder anyone. It was an accident. He was lucky to survive the the incident driving off the bridge. Besides, he and his passenger were probably both drunk. Bottom line: happens to a lot of Americans, Just have to read the newspapers.
Ted, RIP.
In a twist of fate, Senator Edward Kennedy proved the failure of a health care reform he and others worked so hard for. Senator Kennedy's money could not save him. No insurance or technology could save him. The whole health care system he fought for is wrong. Who pays for it is not the issue. He and others champion a health care reform that helps the medical field and investors most. They have not realized there is a final solution that could benefit all mankind, making it truly universal.
The employment lifestyle created the world problems and made us diseased, young and old. The garden paradise lifestyle would solve the world problems we created quickly, fairly, inexpensively and beautifully. It is the only sustainable lifestyle.
Opportunities to abuse health care reform and more about how the way we produce our food changes the ph of our blood making us susceptible to disease are at http://www.divine-way.com See: WRONG WAY tab for Dr. DC Jarvis' warning in 1960 that we refused to hear. He is proven to be true by our state of health now. Those who fought for this health care system were deceived by the deceitfulness of riches.
Proverbs 14:12 "There is a way which seems right to a man, but the ends thereof are the ways of death." He championed many good sounding and good intentioned causes but as a Liberal he did not stay close to the secular wisdom in the word of God. That put the nation and world in the wrong direction. It is time for REAL CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.
May Edward Kennedy rest in peace.
Henderson, I never said that. Of course murdering someone is a more heinous crime. However, let me play the devils advocate here and point out the facts of the matter which refute your weak argument. First of all, a drunk driver who gets into an accident in which the passenger dies is not a murderer. Manslaughter, possibly. Apples and oranges however in degree of seriousness.
Secondly, why should good ol Ted be held to a higher standard than any other smuck with money who has an accident and is found blameless? Think repubicans who have that type of accident would be found guilty of manslaughter? Please, in what world do you live in? Anyone with money can beat the system, period. Only scum bags and poor people go to jail when they mess up, period. Such is life. We live in a class society, like it or not.
Thirdly, Ted never claimed to be perfect. He paid for his sins by trying to help the poor and disenfranchised, his way of trying to make amends for being such a sinner I guess. He never said he was perfect.
Ensign should resign. He has lost the support of all us do gooders, lol. You born again Christain's who do drugs, get drunk, and chase whores but are still "saved" can all go to hell with him!
It is amazing to me that you people can't separate a persons political opinions from the person.
Civility is dead.
UnoVato: As Ray Charles, one of my favorite crooners used to bellow, "What you say?"
Ravioli: Be fair. Harry's withered not bloated.
So let me understand something,If you find a liberals character flawed your a right wing radical around here! Well I find both parties to be crooked and paid for. I would have posted the same thing about this person 1,5,10 years ago.Do you really think this person was able to do anything that half the lawyers out there in this country couldn't do? It's called milking the family tree!
the only sin Ted Kennedy commited was endorsing Obama.
Republicans--you have lost middle America. Middle America are not hate-filled zealots with no sense of decency. Well, all the better for the Democrats.
I must disagree with many of the posters above that I generally agree with. I didn't agree with his liberal ideals at all. That being said, now that he has passed you all should stop with the mean spirited remarks. What good does it do? I believe he will be judged by someone more qualified than any of us. Let him rest in peace.
Do you know she didn't die quickly? She left scratch marks that show she tried to claw her way out of the car.
How's that for decency?
I seem to remember that Laura Bush accidentally killed a friend by running into his car when she was in high school. I really doubt that any Democrats are going to crow about upon her death.
Thumper gets the Belly Laugh of the Day Award.
After today, I can't wait for Fidel to ascend to the Great Workers Paradise In The Sky. Now that will be a real celebration!
Harry said: "Ted Kennedy's dream was the one for which the founding fathers fought and his brothers sought to realize."
What dream did Teddy share with the founding fathers? Was it government run healthcare? Marxism? Anyone know?
It's really weird that you posted a DK video thumper. Takes me back, thanks for that.
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Ted Kennedy is beloved by many for his unsung kindnesses. Here's a sweet story about how he helped some Russians come to America and saved "the littlest refusnik":
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/26/lit...
Laura Bush was 17 when she ran a stop sign and killed her friend. She didn't leave anyone to die. She didn't run home and call a lawyer. She didn't walk back to a hotel room passing many houses, leaving her victim to die a slow death in 7 feet of water. She didn't go "sleep on it." She has also discussed the accident on a number of occasions and she's written about it too. What she did was very wrong, however still different than Ted.
Kennedy was almost 40, married, and drunk when he left a woman to die in the lake. He never even called to get help for Mary Jo! He went home, had a pow-wow to plan strategy, and got some sleep. Could you imagine?
Have you ever had a bad dream about Sen. Kennedy trying to spread hatred, animosity, and divisiveness? Well, I have
I once had a nightmare in which Sen. Kennedy was free to use rock music, with its savage, tribal, orgiastic beat, to turn our country into an impulsive cesspool overrun with welfare for illegals, government run health care (if you could honestly call it that) and crime. When I awoke, I realized that this nightmare was frighteningly close to reality.
For instance, it is the case both in my nightmare and in reality that Sen. Kennedy's actions show us that sesquipedalianism and revisionism are identical concepts and are hopelessly flawed and absolutely circuitous. But then again, liberals have been found to be mentally ill.
Source: http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Mind-Psych...
I have long been under the impression that Sen. Kennedy fully intended to spawn a society in which those with the most deviant lifestyle, narrow-minded behavior, or personal failures, would have been given the most by the government.
What a joyful affair it would have been for him if he managed to get away with turning lowbrows loose against us good citizens. He'd be laughing through his snout like a sow grinning at her little piglets.
There are few certainties in life. I, not being one of the many unsympathetic flag burners of this country, have counted only three: death, taxes, and Sen. Kennedy doing some gin-swilling every few weeks.
The Sun should not allow comments when some famous politician dies. What tourist in his or her right mind would want to visit this town after reading some of these comments? They are scary!
shame on you sun staff gor allowing this to continue. double standard staff as comments were removed from stations owner. have you no decency sir.
No, don't censor these people. Let everyone see the depths they sink to.
Four scotch distileries announced today that they will be closing and filing for bankruptcy immediately due to the sudden drop in demand for Scotch Whisky. The presidents of the four companies refused to discuss the reason for the decline but said there was a sudden shift in the market but they were unable to publicly disclose the reasons for it.
God bless the Sun staff for allowing freedom of expression!
jlb101,
This is reason for concern. I demand a government bailout immediately!
yeah, like it was just a coincidence E Howard Hunt and Gordon Liddy just happened to be on the Vineyard that weekend in 1969.....just coincidence....read the Nixon tapes you freeking lemmings
This is disgusting! A true American hero has passed away, and I'm seeing even more hate speech. Just utterly disgusting.
I don't remember seeing this level of hate on the left when Ronald Reagan died. I guess that's just because progressives are civilized people. It's too bad all the rational conservatives left the GOP. I guess the corporate powers that be haven't yet realized what danger they're causing by provoking the birthers, deathers, and teabaggers to become this violent.
unbeknowst to ted kennedy mary jo kopechne was asleep in the back seat. when teddy and his girl took off into the bay they swam to shore. when they walked back to the cottage, they had found out where mary jo was. ted returned to the car but was too late.
atdleft,
True American Hero? I doubt Mary Jo Kopechne agrees with you.
Also, Ronald Reagan didn't kill a woman.
So much of the left wing posters are labeling all Republicans the same.
I am a Republican, Never had a lot of good to say about Mr. Kennedy, But I am also respectful toward the Kennedy family, his friends and those who are just folks who happen to support his politics. Certainly over the years, his politics have been opposite of mine, but I realize with that many years in office he certainly has made an impact and even some good legislation. I do not believe this is the day to show disrespect, while his family is arranging the second funeral in 2 weeks. No, I never would have voted for him, But on this day, I will feel the loss and show respect as a good Republican. I live in California, I just hope our 2 current senators live a long happy life, after being voted out, Along with Reid and Ensign next time they're up for election.
Well said Bakersfield.
This thread is disgusting. Not because I'm a fan of Kennedy's, but because most of the posts lack dignity in displaying their viewpoints. Love him or hate him, Kennedy expressed his views with dignity and propriety, particularly face to face with his critics or opposition. Even through his failures Kennedy served this country as he felt he should without sinking to the depths that many have on this thread have today. You don't have to cry for him today, but at least have the same dignity in your criticism of him as if he were sittnig next to you as you expressed it.
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The profit (hey, can't help it, I'm a capitalist) feels the following statements are apropos to this discussion:
It is disingenuous to engage in false bravado. This isn't a Kennedy family tribute website that his kids might read. This is a place where free speech is being practiced and where a loved by some and hated by others public figure is being remembered, for better and for worse. You don't have to come here and post a nicety about Mr Kennedy unless you truly feel his loss is a loss to the people of our state or nation. You don't have to get upset at those who hated him and who post what you would consider low class remarks given he just died. This is a forum to sound off and give your opinion. Some people feel he was bad for the country and that his policies pushed us towards communism. Others feel he was forward thinking and was a champion of equality and a better life for all, rich or poor and that those who opposed him are those types that wish the south had won the Civil War or that only white males be allowed to vote or own land. The truth may lie somewhere in between there as the truth is that both parties are pretty much the same, like it or not. We as a nation are no loner "driving the bus", we're just passengers that in the near past and near future will be driven off a cliff 911 style in order to push us towards this "New World Odor" that seems to be in the cards like it or not. It's called globalization. Kennedy didn't invent that, the neocons, Bush's, Clinton's, and zionists did! They're the ones who allowed the good paying jobs to be outsourced. They're the ones that allowed 911 to happen just so that they can take more liberties from us, engage in more war, run up higher deficits, etc. Both sides argue about this or that but nothing ever changes. Obama was supposed to get us out of the middle east, his handlers think otherwise. Bush was supposed to be a fiscal conservative, he did more harm to this country than any liberal could have done. Obama is supposed to stick it to the insurance companies, he won't, the plan he ends up signing will allow them to continue raping and pillaging the lemming public and will do nothing except further bankrupt the middle class and rich he and his handlers so despise and you can't have a communist revolution with a strong middle class. A VAT tax will follow reform that will put a 10-20% tax on everything you buy on top of increased state and federal taxes to fund the sinking ship we call the USA. Now those are the issues of the day folks. Now let me go enjoy a nice steak and lobster dinner, I'll let the family limited partnership Ted showed me how to set up pick-up the bill, buahahaha!
Lefty: A true American hero has died? Did I miss something in the Obituaries this morning? Are you kidding? He'd probably still be around if he hadn't led such a corrupted life. The guy was a womanizer, boozer, and gluton. True American heroes win the Medal of Honor or work three jobs so their kids can eat square meals while they grow up to be physicians.
Please excuse me as its time to go to Whole Foods to stock up for the week.
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Sooner the better!!!!!!!!!!
Teddy Kennedy got 2 months in jail for leaving the scene of an accident. The Pinko judge suspended the sentence.. What ever happened to vehicular homicide? When he went home and told his daddy what he did, Old Joe quit eating, and died of starvation 3 months later. Old Joe didn't want to see the end of this crappy movie I guess.
Totally true, Rooster. Stroke-addled Old Joe began refusing nourishment after Teddy told him about Chapp and he died soon after. I think he'd seen enough and it pushed him over the edge.
onward christian soldiers marching off to war- oh sorry, war is for those that care about their country, not these little men filling hatred on this site.
ages & I.Q's on full display, kiddies.
I am a Conservative Republican.
There was very little that I agreed with Kennedy.
But he was a political leader for many and member of a famous political family.
We should respect that.
Ted Kennedy was instrumental in getting rid of the draft. Him and others of course, but he was a leader in the effort. Most people think it weakened the country.
Thank you SgtRock for your comment. Nancy Reagan had this to say last night on the friendship between Kennedy and her husband, which transcended ideologies. I especially recommend the comments people made at the end--these are the decent Americans I spoke of earlier on this thread:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/200...
The man belonged in prison more than he belonged in the U.S. Senate.
Is the nation still mourning?
Wonder when FOX News will tell us that we aren't mourning anymore?
I was completely unaware I was in mourning until a banner came up on FOX News and said "The Nation was Mourning the Passing of Ted Kennedy"
Then I said to myself, "Damn I'm in mourning right now and I thought I was just eating breakfast and enjoying myself"
Interesting.
He also helped open the floodgates to immigration, both legal and illegal. At least we know he's down there somewhere Moonwalking with Michael Jackson!
Really? You quoted yourself having an imaginary conversation with yourself?
Genius.
To the governor of Mass. re: Senator Kennedy's replacement - be careful what you wish for, you may get it.
RIP to a man with an extensive career in Public Service.
Wow - this forum reads like a Parade of Failure for our public schools.
Keep the hits coming you Men of Men. You Warriors. You Conservative Patriots for God.
Theres a can of Skoal and a place in next the magician Jesus in it for you.
Finally Massachusetts will get a shiny new Senator!
Maybe this time it can be one that's not born into a dynasty or married to an heiress.
PeterGun, That was AWESOME!
Are we there yet?
while your enjoying better and safer working conditions, while your kids are getting better minmum wage, while you enjoy safer products, while you enjoy equal rights, etc, etc., you should stop and thank mr. kennedy. lets see, what has ensign done- bueller, bueller. ferris bueller had a day off, big john a career off.
For starters, Ensign never killed anyone.
Liberals like Reid and Kennedy oppose capitalism.
There's only one way for them to go, socialism. It's just a matter of time, the powerful hunger for more power, and historically, they get it.
Look at the rest of the socialized world and prepare to be Sucked into the New World Order. OR stand up as a people and be heard.
Do you really think this person cared one iota about you as a citizen? Please, It's called get in office, Spend a few weeks a year actually doing any type work while your staff makes sure your covered. The hardest thing you have to do is make sure your speech writer is creative. And last but not least, You have to know how to waste other peoples money, Being sure to smile all the while.
them god lovin, gun totten, guys haters, union bashers, are alive and well in the valley.
You know who's not alive and well?
Mary Jo Kopechne!
Conservatives like Cheney And Palin oppose Democracy.
There's only one way for them to go, Fascism. It's just a matter of time, the powerful hunger for more power, and historically, they get it.
Look at the rest of the Fascist world and prepare to be Sucked into the New World Order. OR stand up as a people and be heard.
Words sure are fun.
UnoVato: OBE dude. This is old news. I just checked and Uncle Teddy and Michael Jackson are still dead.
In the '90s he was a bloated perv running around with his pants off. Now he's a dead perv and hopefully they put some trousers on him before they stuffed him in the box. How do we get Reid to jump in with Ted just before they slam the lid?
Amen!
Only Dirty Harry would praise a murderer.
Wow there is a lot of idiocy in this comments section.
Kennedy was a great man and its sad to see him go.
You know who didn't think he was a great man?
Dirty Harry?
Krases: Ok, I'll bite for your punch line. What was so great about the Liar of the Senate? Why couldn't he give a speech w/o reading it? Was it the pain medication for his back problem? Does using a written narative that someone else wrote before Obama discovered the teleprompter make Teddy Boy a pioneer? My suspicion is that there was a face behind the curtain pulling his strings just like Obama has Emanuel as a puppeteer.
I can't wait for your hero Fidel to also exit "Stage Left."
P.S. I didn't vote for Bush on either occasion so don't throw Bush/Cheney at me.
Let me get this straight, If I find that this person didn't throw the ball over the plate I should give him a strike anyway. That is a metaphor to the way this guy lived.
Spock: the word metaphor is beyond the limits of my intellect, but I think you're "spot on," as my liberal friends tend to say.
Sorry bro! i'll try to pull back the wagons.
If this is a private paper, I will censor myself and remove my comment.
But first - RIP - and not to soon. Need to change the rules again in the game Teddy. Your brothers are going to have a field day with you.
200!!!
my god are the retarded republicans ugly ugly people...
who the hell would want to join such an ugly group of people???
You know what's ugly birdie?
Leaving a young girl at the bottom of a lake to claw at the ceiling of the car as she dies in 7 feet of water while you go plan strategy with your "team" and get yourself some sleep.
Hmmmmm. I know it's a rhetorical question birdbrain, but I believe it's highly likely that the decendent, Mr. Kennedy, would chose to join the GOP if that were be an alternative to his current situation.
ever wondered how the nazi's got people to exterminate millions of jews, just read the hate responses here and you'll see how easy it was.
Wow formervegas, you really rally around the killer, don't you?
Are we all still in mourning?
Hey, this is really turning into an old-fashioned Irish Wake! As a child, I remember seeing the dearly departed sitting on a telephone pole while family and friends drank themselves into oblivion. Although I want a Viking's funeral, I have to admit that the Irish know how to have fun.
I wonder what kind of posts we would see from the moral liberals on this thread if Bush or Limbaugh bit the dust? And I'm sure the left wing wacko staff from this liberal rag wouldn't remove any of their comments.
you shall be judged for your ignorance and i stand by my statement of what people will do when hate is spread so easy. think if you have a brain for yourself.
formervegas,
why don't you take a moment of your day to think about Mary Jo Kopechne trying to claw her way out of that car for whatever time she had left to live and breath. Then ask yourself why such a "great man" (gag and barf) wouldn't call to get her help.
henderson, your just a lunatic. no reason to reason with you, just go watch fox and come back and give more hate talk. stand by my statement that you haters would so easily be led down an extinction of people if asked.
formervagrant: As I recall, Stalin and Mao used class warfare hatred to kill many more innocents than Hitler ever even dreamed about.
It's amazlng how these liberals are offended when you put a fact in there face. You speak of ignorance, WOW, now thats heavy! Poor little thing,I think your cat box needs your attention.This man was a self indulgent power whore who did nothing more than the rest of the political hacks around him. Say and do anything to garnish that vote.
hednerson is a simple fool. Pay no attention to fools.
A fool is as a fool does.If your going to call someone a fool ,At least get the the name straight. moron!
gop is full of spooky spocks. rich people have you doing their bathroom cleanup for them. class warfare, what the hell do you think has been happening to middle class gino- how many overpaid rich con artists are on these postings. trying to reason with some of you is like trying to reason with a teenage daughter.
I can only imagine how different the attitude would be if it were a republican that rolled his car into 7 feet of water and left a woman there to claw at the car for however long her air pocket lasted while he went home to figure out how to save his ass without waking up his wife, before going to bed and never calling for help.
you are all leaving out the rape trail. His frist wife left him because of it, I am guessing she knew he was guilty.
Would someone tell my bank I'm rich! They must have mailed me the wrong the statement.
henderson=hendrikson, The new VA bill, which Bush and MCInsane opposed, and Kennedy supported , help surviving spouses get educational benefits. The Sean Insannity Freedumb concert, that was supposed to raise money for Vets, failed to raise much money because it was ill-attended and Insannity used up the money on his fancy jet. (He always complains about the Speaker's jet.)
I'm glad Reid is helping our Vets.
red: yaddayaddayadda, all you Lefties want are more of the same government entitlements that are sinking the U.S. in a sea of debt. In case you haven't been reading the financial section, the Chinese now own most of our Treasury obligations. Hello, is anyone listening? Is anyone home? Does anyone care? Oh, I almost forgot. Reid does care. He cares about getting reelected. Too bad for him because it won't happen and he knows it. His negatives are simply too high. The same goes for Junior, you know the chip off the old block.
mred,
Please enlighten us as to how much money the Freedom concert raised for the children of our soldiers lost and wounded in their service.
You are also ill-informed. 10,000 people at sold out concerts across the nation is not "ill-attended."
mikegino, if government entitlements are sinking the US, then how does a communist country own most of our treasury obligations?
I mean communism is heavily based on entitlement/redistribution.
Krases: you are 20 years behind the times. China is now capitalism on steroids and they have been buying our discounted notes (forever). We simply can't compete with slave or subsidized labor. Thank the Gods we have weaker nations to the north and south, and oceans to the east and west. I know reality is depressing, but reality is reality. Your democrat standard bearers are interested in another 20 year run, and damm the consequences. Draw your own analogies and conclusions, please. I also know that the Chinese elite are extremely worried about the future, especially our future because we are their last refuge.
When will this website step up to the plate and require that readers posting comment use their real names? Without accountability readers will post anything as is evident by the number of comments that have been removed from this post.
jetrink,
Posting political views in a forum like this would no doubt bring persecution to people that perhaps work for someone that doesn't share their political views.
Tell me your name,I'll tell you mine. LOL!