Las Vegas Sun

November 19, 2008

LETTER TO THE EDITOR:

Potshots show desperation of GOP

Sun, Sep 7, 2008 (2:05 a.m.)

The patronizing efforts of the McCain ticket to deal with Barack Obama become more transparently desperate each day.

Now we have a “pit bull with lipstick” who has always — not sometimes — been proud of her country, a thinly veiled criticism of Michelle Obama’s patriotism.

I would like to ask Ms. Palin how proud she was of U.S. leadership, specifically that of George Bush and Dick Cheney, whose policies the right-wing segment of her party enthusiastically embrace, when we learned of Abu Ghraib, the less than enthusiastic response to the victims of Hurricane Katrina, and the shabby treatment of American vets at Walter Reed. And it’s clear she represents that right wing segment of her party, favoring the inclusion of creationism in high school science classrooms, allegiance to the NRA, and denial of global warming, among other truly questionable views.

Ms. Palin represents exactly what this nation doesn’t need at this time, an arrogant, self-styled pit bull who undoubtedly considers international diplomacy weak-kneed and not up to the standards of manly moose hunting.

Discussion: 52 comments so far…

  1. She certainly follows in the footsteps of George Bush.

    She's just another borrow and squander Republican who jets off to Washington every year to beg for more federal cash to spend. In February, she requested $200 million in earmarks for the great state of Alaska... after pocketing 26.9 million in earmarks during her tenure as mayor of Wasilla.

    "This year she submitted to Congress a list of Alaska projects worth $197.8 million, including $2 million to research crab productivity in the Bering Sea and $7.4 million to improve runway lighting at eight Alaska airports. A spokesman said she cut the original list of 54 projects to 31."

    "So while Sen. McCain was going after cutting earmarks in Washington," said Steve Ellis of Taxpayers for Common Sense, "Gov. Palin was going after getting earmarks."

    And all that baloney about telling Washington "no thanks" for the Bridge to Nowhere? That's not exactly "straight talk."

    "However, as a candidate for governor in 2006, Palin had backed funding for the bridge. After her election, she killed the much-ridiculed project when it became clear the state had other priorities. She said she would use the federal funds to fill those needs."

    So she didn't end up funding the bridge, but she sure as heck kept all that cash.

    And spent it.

    So when she stood on that stage, in front of 38 million television households and told us she was a reformer? Well, there's only one response to that:

    Liar!

  2. No surprise there - she a Re-puke-lican.

  3. The Libs are running scared! It's OK when Nobama cuts down the conservative party, but your feelings get hurt when the Republicans speak the TRUTH! You’re all pathetic! Vote for the HERO not the zero!

  4. Potshots?????

    LOL....Everyday in the blog rooms....I just laugh and laugh....

    Democrats are making fun of small town America, motherhood, working women, small states, mayors, gun owners, hunters, blue collar workers, creationists, people that being in God, and I even saw somebody make fun of people that go to collge.

    Wow...Democrats seem to be committed to offending as many voters as possbile.

    It is not surprising. The top of their ticket called a large section of voters bitter folk who cling to guns and religion to deal with their problems.

    From a Republican, I thank the Democrats. Thank you for picking the worst candidate possible. It should have been a calk walk for the Dems but now it is a close race. Thank you for pushing voters away by offending them.

    Keep up the Good Work!!!!!!

  5. Anybody can pick an event to embarrass someone elso.

    How proud are the DEMs of Ruby Ridge, Waco, Black Hawk down, bombing the Chinese embassy and an aspirin factory, etc.

    The last 10 day of personal attacks on Sarah Palin have accomplished nothing and have done nothing to further the political discourse.

    We should be debating issues like redistribution economics.

  6. I think it is funny, Future2012, that you are very concerned with "redistribution economics." Maybe you are not aware that McCain chose Sarah Palin, who worked to take federal money, supplied by taxpayers like you and I, and put it directly into the pockets of citizens of Alaksa.

    If that isn't redistribution economics, I don't know what is!!!!!!!

    You republicans are so funny. We keep bringing up Sarah Palin's record as a tax and spend-into-debter, and you just whine that those are "personal attacks?"

    LOLOLOLOL!!!!!

    We don't need personal attacks, we have her RECORD!!!!

    Voters don't need to concern themselves with pregnancy or anything else about Sarah Palin's personal life, they need to look at how she destroyed that small town of Wasilla with debt, higher taxes and a skating rink which is still being subsidized by taxpayers YEARS after it was built.

    You see, the republicans on the Sun's website are DESPERATE to run away from her record. They use the same old soundbytes, calling her a maverick and a reformer.

    I guess they think Palin's hundreds of millions of dollars in earmarks is "reforming!!!!!"

    They want to hide her record and try to get sympathy for Sarah Palin because of her personal issues.

    There will be NO SYMPATHY for the liar!!!!!

  7. The torture inflected this week on Sarah Palin though satisfying to DEMs, is far worse than that inflected at Abu Ghraib.

  8. Yes, Future, criticizing Palin is worse than the rape, torture and homicide at Abu Ghraib.

    And people around here criticize the Dems as being heartless?

  9. Soooooo DEMs are proud of Ruby Ridge, Waco, Black Hawk down, bombing the Chinese embassy and an aspirin factory, etc.

  10. Oh BOOfricketyHOO. Those meany Dems are critizicing poor Sarah and calling her out on all her inconsistencies and flat out lies.

    I highly doubt her feelings are getting hurt. She is basking in her new notoriety. For some people negative attention is better than no attention at all.

    She's a tough redneck girl from the Great North, or so she would have us believe, and can defend herself. Or should be able to. I don't know, I have yet to see a more recent interview with her than the one where she admitted to not knowing the responsibilities of the second person in command of the United States.

    And if she can't or won't defend herself against all those not nice things, well, she's the one who stuck her own neck out. Can't stand the heat? Get out of the kitchen.

  11. I'm soooooo glad the Democrats aren't resulting to potshots this election season!

  12. Sarah Palin is proud of her country whenever she and her husband are not advocating the separation of Alaska as a state of the United States.

    Look it up.

  13. She loves Alaska SO MUCH, she feels "we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture."

    Culture, like Ivana Trump.

    "Sarah Palin, a commercial fisherman from Wasilla, told her husband on Tuesday she was driving to Anchorage to shop at Costco. Instead, she headed straight for Ivana. And there, at J.C. Penney's cosmetic department, was Ivana, the former Mrs. Donald Trump, sitting at a table next to a photograph of herself. She wore a light-colored pantsuit and pink fingernail polish. Her blonde hair was coiffed in a bouffant French twist. ‘We want to see Ivana,' said Palin, who admittedly smells like salmon for a large part of the summer, ‘because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture.'"

    Yup, just a back country gal who hobnobs with millionaires and thinks Alaska is a cultural wasteland.

  14. Soooooo DEMs are proud of Ruby Ridge, Waco, Black Hawk down, bombing the Chinese embassy and an aspirin factory, etc. I have not hear back

  15. Future, you set the bar high with: "We should be debating issues like redistribution economics."

    And a mere few hours later, you drag the conversation right back into irrelevance.

    Great job.

    Here's a question: if Palin fired the police chief of Wasilla because he "intimidated her," (her words), how in the world would she be able to stand up to Mugabe, Ahmadinejad, or Jong-il?

  16. Democrats are so obessive about Palin.

    You think she is the only one running.

    They are putting 110% of their effort to destroy her.

    That is how scare they are of her.

  17. The policy lightweight doesn't scare me.

    Her marketing as a "maverick" and "reformer" angers me, because there is NO WAY one can look at her record, her accomplishments, and make the case for either of those labels.

    You're confusing fear with anger, Nance.

    You aren't at all concerned that she's been named the nominee of your party but still hasn't sat down to explain herself, her records, or her position with any press?

    Isn't that the way you fight a "liberal media?" Go out there and tell the truth?

    Why is she running away from her record?

  18. Before long....the Democrats will be stalking her....

    So obessive.......all they have is Palin on the brain.

    Who are the Democrats running for office...I forgot?????

  19. OK, Future, I'll go off topic & play your little game.

    Ruby Ridge happened under GHWB (1992 - Clinton took office in 1993 ... oops). Are YOU "proud" of that? As for Black Hawk down, that was a film. If you're talking about the EVENT on which the film was based, again, I'm not sure I know anyone who's "proud" of it. Same goes for the others you mentioned.

    Why do you have to go back to Clinton (the perennial right-wing "blame game") to try to make some kind of point? You want to go back in history? Let's talk about Reagan & Iran/Contra or BCCI or Oliver North (now celebrated as a "hero" by right wing lunatics) .... too much to list. Let's talk about Nixon and the Viet Nam war & Watergate etc. How many of HIS administration ended up in jail and are now being "celebrated" as "heroes" by right wing lunatics? How "proud" are you of that?

    Do you REALLY want to go there?

    Isn't it ironic that now that the spotlight is on Palin (R), suddenly it does nothing to further the debate.

    LMAO. You have to love the double standard.

  20. I'm neither afraid of nor angry at Palin being chosen to potentially be 2nd in command of the free world. I'm actually amused. She's entertaining in a Britney/Paris/Lindsay trainwreck sort of way. Funny how she's gone from a total unknown to unseating Obama as a "celebrity" in a week.

    McCain/Palin don't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning in November, but the show they are putting on is way better than anything a pseudo-reality show scriptwriter could've ever come up with.

  21. "Sarah Palin is proud of her country whenever she and her husband are not advocating the separation of Alaska as a state of the United States."

    GOOD FOR THEM! I feel we as Nevadans should be looking into Secession from the US as well. It would be one of the best ideas I've heard in 30 years! Never have so many in Washington (BOTH Dems & Reps) spent so much of OUR money on unconstitutional expenditures. Bailout after bailout, misappropriations, deceit, outright thievery, cronyism, - sure makes ME proud of nothing. How anyone can NOT see it makes me realize how successful the "dumbing down of America" has been.

  22. As long as the government gives tax breaks to stay-at-home mothers and cuts down on school and Medicaid funding I will be happy. In addition, we need an amendment to the constitution to bar stem cell research!

  23. Dear BlackStarRanch,

    Looks like you have also been successfully mislead by American propaganda into believing that this is the first time our government used our money "on unconstitutional expenditures. Bailout after bailout, misappropriations, deceit, outright thievery, cronyism". Look to our history with regularly/secretively trying to overthrow governments all over cental and south america, middle east, and eastern europe. Just because this is the first time this issue has been widely publicized doesn't mean that it is the first time this has happened.

    And to jfnance 32-
    why are you ignoring the issues? I understand that Sarah Palin's personal life should be left alone, but when she voluntarily opens the pro-life debate, its hard to ignore the hypocricy in her parenting. In addition, I think that it is not smart for our country to ignore IR right now, and Palin not only has no experience with IR, she has no opinions either!

  24. and the reason we have "Palin on the brain" is because if anything happens to McCain if he's president (don't forget he's 72 and has cancer) she'll be PRESIDENT of the country! She's a fine person, she's just not fit to be President of a country which is more involved in IR than any other country on the planet (in which she has absolutely NO experience)!!

    And also, to counter your argument about "making fun of Republicans"- dont forget that Obama went to an Ivy league school and is more educated than both Palin and McCain, his mother was a working woman, his family was full of blue-collar workers, and he believes in God. He just correctly reognizes the fact that our country is made up of people with different religions, and he respects that! In fact, democrats are not the ones making fun of anyone- we could say the oppposite is true. Neither Obama nor Biden blatantly attacked McCain or Palin's character in their acceptance speeches- Palin did! She openly attacked him by saying that she was sort of a "community organizer" who did "REAL" things! Sorry Obama wanted to volunteer his time to make the lives of unemployed workers better! I guess you don't hold a strong belief in altruism. Oh, and I love how they champion being "mavericks" to cover up for their blatant hipocricy on multiple issues- like the "Bridge to nowhere" which she supported until she was against it.

  25. Obama the PRESIDENT of the country! He's a fine person, he's just not fit to be President of a country which is more involved in IR than any other country on the planet (in which he has very LITTLE experience)!!

  26. "Neither Obama nor Biden blatantly attacked McCain or Palin's character in their acceptance speeches- Palin did! She openly attacked him by saying that she was sort of a "community organizer" who did "REAL" things!"

    In first 30 minutes after Palin's selection, the Obama campaign (you know his claim to executive experience) made fun of Palin's mayor experience in an offical campaign release. That means it was explicity endorsed by Obama.

    I take mayor experience any day over community organizer experience.

  27. Care to quote that press release and demonstrate how the Obama campaign "made fun of Palin's mayor experience?"

  28. HAHA!
    jfnance32-
    I think it's REALLY funny that you always copy and paste someone else's comment and just change the names! Very clever of you!
    I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but if you think that Obama has "little" experience, you are gravely mistaken. Palin's resume goes only as far as PTA meetings, a beauty pageant, and mayor with a bachelor's degree in Journalism. Obama, on the other hand, is "A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for the U.S. Senate in January 2003. After a primary victory in March 2004, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote". He has more on-hand experience that Palin can even dream of. And with Biden, they have over 43 years of experience on the Dem ticket.

  29. Woooooowoooooooeeeeeeee....Obama was a college professor, a slum lord lawyer, community organizer and gave speeches, been a part-time senator and a full time campaigner for the last 3 years.....

    Wooooweeeeee....WOW....He done all that!!!!!

    Wow.......lots and lots of foreign policy, national defence and executive experience there....LOL

  30. I cannot help wondering...

    If it had been Hillary Clinton with an unmarried teenage pregnant daughter, would we really see the "values voters" rallying around the family, demanding privacy for them, claiming that they were demonstrating true American family values etc?

    Or would they have crowed that liberals have no morals or family values, and berated the mother for her political ambitions leading her to neglect her family?

    McCain surely has keen political instincts in picking a running who would instantly boost his sagging poll numbers .. but does it show good judgment to choose her to take his place should he not be able to complete a full term in office?

    Is that really putting "Country First?"

  31. Apparently, Nance doesn't think that any of these committees are very important:

    Senate Foreign Relations Committee
    Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs
    Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
    Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs

    Those are all of the Senate committees that Obama sits on. They receive regular briefings from the FBI, CIA, Defense Department, Department of Labor, Department of Education, etc.

    Nope, no experience there!

    Give me a break, Nance.

    But Palin, in the words of John McCain, knows foreign policy because ALASKA IS CLOSE TO RUSSIA?

    The neo-con double standard on display, yet again. Thanks, Nance!

  32. I did not say no experience...I said very little experience.

    He has been a part-time senator and a full-time presidential campaigner for the last 3 years.

    He has a small amount of foreign policy and national security experience.

    He has a very small amount of executive experience.

    It was crazy for the Democrats to nominate this man when you had a very experienced and a very popular candidate in Hillary. Instead, you very nearly split the Democratic party in-half. Obama crowd painted the "1st black President" as a racist.

    Hillary would have been 5 to 10 points ahead right now and will have the full pledge support of independent women.

    But, you have to ride the horse you picked.

    I am very happy with Palin.

    I hope you are very happy about Obama..because I am very happy that you guys nominate Obama.

    Thank you....thank you...thank you!!!!!!

  33. Likewise, the Republicans chose McCain who boasted he votes with George W. Bush 90% of the time.

    McCain, whose economic policy, education policy, foreign policy are all IDENTICAL to George W. Bush's policies.

    McCain, who extolls the horrors of lobbyist influence in Washington, who has Charlie Black and Rick Davis, two of the most powerful Washington lobbyists RUNNING HIS CAMPAIGN!

    McCain, who chose Palin... who doesn't even know that, prior to this weekend, we didn't own Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae! Who thinks God wants us to wage war in Iraq and wants her to build a natural gas pipeline.

    McCain, who rails against excessive earmarks, who picked a Vice Presidential candidate who has been LYING about supporting the bridge to nowhere, and who governs the state with the LARGEST per-capita earmark funding in the United States? Palin, who requested 27 MILLION in earmarks for a town of 7000, and who, just this year, asked for 200 MILLION more!

    And now, irony of ironies, they're campaigning on CHANGE?

    They won't bring change, but they'll definitely bring the DELUSION!

  34. Wrong, God, 18 million Democrats cast their vote for Obama, signifying their trust.

    Palin wasn't chosen by the voters. McCain chose her, presumably knowing that her words run directly contrary to her actions.

    If anything, McCain's cynical choice was to pick someone to cause a media circus to shift the focus.

    In that, he was successful, but his attempt for a double is tanking.

    Trying to portray himself as "change?" Voters aren't stupid.

    63% of Americans fear McCain will just continue Bush's policies. That number dropped by 2% from before the convention. And he hasn't given us a single reason to believe otherwise.

    He's trying to sell the American voters on his independence, but obviously, we aren't buying it.

  35. 18 million Democrats voted against Obama. He even lost states after it was apparent that he was going to win the nomination.

    I am sure that there many Democrats that are regretting that Obama is their nominee especially with the polls so close.

    I am sure that they had doubts about his experience.

    Both Biden and Hillary said that Obama is not qualified to be President.

  36. The only reason nance and GOD and the rest of the lunatic fringe can't comprehend that being the mayor of a little isolated town in Alaska is an utterly meaningless experience when compared to serving in the Illinois State Senate is that you come from a state with a pip-squeak little part-time legislature yourselves. Palin is not close to being ready to be our vice-president because she has never had to legislate. She hired lawyers to go after big-money earmarks -67 million for a little town in a state where they pay no income tax and recieve anual checks from oil revenues, whereas states like Illinois that has an income tax and a full time legislature requires real political savy to pass legislation, especially when the senator is in the minority party, which Obama was. You guys are ignorant loud mouths.

  37. The only reason esquared and the rest of the lunatic fringe can't comprehend that being the a state senator who voted present (chicken out) about 130 times and who had as a core fundraiser one of the most corrupt convicted crooks in South Chicgo is not worthy of any praise. Obama had no claim to fame in the state legislature. He author no major bill that got passed. That is an utterly meaningless experience when compared to being a mayor. esquared must come from a area that has to be corrupt as South Chicago. Obama is not close to being ready to be our president because he has never had to make an government executive decision. He hired lawyers to kick his opponents off the ballot and he won by default. In states like Illinois that has an income tax and a full time legislature, they require people with real political savy to pass legislation. He never played a major part in passing any major bills---and that demostrates that he lacks political savy. In fact, he was the single vote against a bill that would have given full human rights to babies born from botch abortiions.

    Do I really need to say it?

    esquared is one ignorant loud mouth.

  38. P.S. esquared thanks for dissing Nevada.

    I am sure that Obama appreciates when pro-Obama bloggers go out their way to offend voters.

    I am keeping track...Pro-Obama bloggers have offended working women, mothers, blue collar workers, small towns, mayors, hunters, gun owners, people who believe in religion, and people who have college degrees.

    Now, I will add voters that live in any states that do not have an income tax or do not have a full time legisatures.

    That would include voters that live Nevada, Wyoming, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, New Mexico, Rhode Island, Vermont, West Virigina, Alaska, Florida, Texas, Washington or Tennessee.

    Before long the only people that these Obama bloggers will not offend are crazed liberal nuts.

    But I am sure that they will offend them, too.

    Keep up the good work.

    I only hope that you walk around and talk to strangers like this.

  39. Nance you ignorant bug: Tony Rezko is a crook, but he became one when Rod Blagoijavic became became governor. And no one lost their homes or their life savings. McSame, however, put himself squarely on the side of the crooked savings and loans that cost tens of thousands of American families their homes and life savings. The savings and loan crisis that McLame helped foment cost us 164 billion! The only reason he didn't get booted out of the Senate is that McTame caved in to the US Attorney and gave testimony. What the RNV couldn't do in 5 years, the US Attorneys did in 2 meetings. You lie about Obama's record in the Illinois Senate: the ethics reform legislation passed that body while Pate Phillip, another rabid republicanker presided. One of his biggest supporters now in Illinois is Senator Welsh, a downstate republicrank. Nance, just like McSame, lies won't cut it any more. And you'd kill to live in the shadow of University of Chicago, home to more nobel laureates than any other school in the country. You're just talking out of your excessively large fourth point of contact.

  40. Sorry Nance, but the Nevada legislature is considered a pip-squeak body by the National Conference of State Legislatures. In fact, they've recommended you change the way you go about your business for the last 12 years, because you're not meeting your obligations to the people of Nevada. There's great potential here, but it is lost because of clinging to this back-country political structure. Nevada is last in health care and education but first in emergency room waiting time and cost of care because of a resonding inability to manage the business of government. Call it dis, but the rest of the country, and the people trying to keep you healthy and educate your kids knows its true. And clearly, bugs like you are the biggest hurdle in bringing Nevada into the 21st century.

  41. And don't worry, bug. I save the pure fact and reasonable arguments for humans. When I step in poo, there's no reason to be polite when I wipe it off.

  42. As to your lie about the abortion bill, the proposed legislation duplicated conduct that was already a crime in Illinois. When the wacko testified before a Senate hearing that she witnessed aborted children expiring because they were not given care, the Illinois Attorney General at the time, a republicrank, immediately investigated her claims because that would be a felony called murder. The claims were false and even former Governor Jim Edgar, a loyal republicrank and a devout Christian has stated that Senator Obama's vote on that bill was the only correct and responsible vote. Got any more lies, cowboy?

  43. Nance's statement about a 'present' vote in the Illinois Senate just demonstrates his ignorance, his utter bugginess. Every single Senator in the Illinois Senate uses the present vote on housekeeping and non-dispositive matters. Not one single piece of legislation, not one, ever received a present vote by Obama when it came up for a third reading vote or the ultimate, final vote. You just don't understand that body. Every Republicrank state senator from Illinois who attended the Republican convention stated in two seperate polls conducted by Illinois Issues magazine that Obama's present votes were both proper and appropriate and were a vote that they also cast when the situation merits it. Being part of the lunatic fringe, and imbued with all that bugginess, I wouldn't expect you to understand. But feel free to call former Governor Edgar. He's a partner at Res Publica and Associates in Chicago. He'll be happy to explain if don't believe me.

  44. esquared I guess you think that Hillary is part of the lunatic fringe, and imbued with all that bugginess.

    Hillary brought this up as an issue. Hillary said, "In the Illinois State Senate, Senator Obama voted 130 times 'present,' That's not 'yes.' That's not 'no.' That's 'maybe.'"

    Or perhaps Bonnie Grabenhofer, IL NOW State President, is part of the lunatic fringe, and imbued with all that bugginess.

    She says, "Voting Present on those bills was a strategy that Illinois NOW did not support. We made it clear at the time that we disagreed with the strategy. We wanted legislators to take a stand against the awful anti-choice bills being put forth. Voting Present doesn't provide a platform from which to show leadership and say with conviction that we support a woman's right to choose and these bills are unacceptable."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tV-e2npz...

    Here is your fearless "Present" chicken leader trying to tap dance to a question on one of his "Present" housekeeping and non-dispositive matters. I think it is a funny video. He never really answers the question. It is like he voted "Present" to the interviewer's question on his "Present" vote.

  45. As for the Save Babies Born from Botched Abortions here is good CNN airing on the topic.

    Maybe CCN is part of the lunatic fringe, and imbued with all that bugginess.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZCXcTwZ...

  46. So you think Nevadan voters are dumb for having a citizen legislature?

  47. As for Ethics Reform Bill BS……

    Obama was not the author of the bill.

    He did not work on the bill in any committee for the five months that it worked its way through the process.

    He was not even listed as a co-sponsor of the Illinois Ethics Reform Bill until after the second reading of the bill which was on the day it passed.

    Obama’s mentor, Emil Jones, was president of the Illinois senate and Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s enforcer (both Democrats). Jones made Obama the chief co-sponsor the bill after the 2nd reading on the day that the bill passed.

    That “ethics” bill allowed Obama’s mentor Emil Jones to convert over $500,000 in campaign funds for personal use when Jones retired the very next year.

    LOL……I think it is an excellent example of Obama's accomplishments as a state senator.

    No wonder we never hear Obama parading this accomplishment.

    Even on his campaign site where he talks about his state senator time there is no mention of this bill and I see why.

  48. WOW! This is unbelievable! Nance, we would appreciate you throwing out meaningless facts had you even considered the facts on the republican side. Now, consider the facts on your side:

    McCain claimed that Obama’s health care plan would "force small businesses to cut jobs" and would put "a bureaucrat ... between you and your doctor." In fact, the plan exempts small businesses, and those who have insurance now could keep the coverage they have.

    McCain attacked Obama for voting for "corporate welfare" for oil companies. In fact, the bill Obama voted for raised taxes on oil companies by $300 million over 11 years while providing $5.8 billion in subsidies for renewable energy, energy efficiency and alternative fuels.

    McCain said oil imports send "$700 billion a year to countries that don't like us very much." But the U.S. is on track to import a total of only $536 billion worth of oil at current prices, and close to a third of that comes from Canada, Mexico and the United Kingdom.

    He promised to increase use of "wind, tide [and] solar" energy, though his actual energy plan contains no new money for renewable energy. He has said elsewhere that renewable sources won’t produce as much as people think.

    He called for "reducing government spending and getting rid of failed programs," but as in the past failed to cite a single program that he would eliminate or reduce.

    He said Obama would "close" markets to trade. In fact, Obama, though he once said he wanted to "renegotiate" the North American Free Trade Agreement, now says he simply wants to try to strengthen environmental and labor provisions in it.

    These are lies JUST from McCain's acceptance speech! Imagine how many more lies have been told!
    You say that you are keeping track of how many people Dems have offended so far- McCain and Palin's lies should have offended anyone with a brain by now!

  49. oh, and here are some more facts to help you open your eyes about his home in chicago that makes him a crook in your obviously closed eyes:
    On the defensive over the extent of multiple McCain homes, the GOP candidate strikes back. But his TV spot gives an oversimplified and misleading account of how Obama bought his own $1.6 million house in Chicago.

    The ad says Chicago power broker Tony Rezko got "political favors" including "$14 million from taxpayers." But there's no evidence of any connection to the Obama home purchase. The $14 million was to build apartments for low-income seniors. Obama wrote a letter supporting the "worthy" project, but both men say Rezko didn't ask for the letter.
    It says Rezko "purchased part of the property [Obama] couldn't afford." Rezko's wife did buy an adjoining tract but later sold the land at a profit. Obama paid market price for his home.

    McCain launched the attack after Obama ran one capitalizing on McCain's inability to recall for an interviewer how many homes the McCains own. Obama's ad says it's seven. The best tally we've seen puts the figure at eight, counting all the apartments and homes owned by McCain's wife, Cindy, and various family trusts, for themselves and their children.

  50. oh, and don't forget that he cheated on his wife as well. His wife was quoted saying that "I don't know that [the divorce] might not have happened if John had never been gone. I attribute it more to John turning forty and wanting to be twenty-five again than I do to anything else."

    The Nightingale's Song (pg. 239): The storybook marriage that had survived separation, pain, and prison began to fray. Off-duty, usually on routine cross-country flights to Yuma and El Centro, John [McCain] started carousing and running around with women. ... Asked about them, he admitted to having a series of dalliances during this period.

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