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GOP enthusiasm and Democratic tiptoeing

Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2008 | 2:01 a.m.

Politics, for the most part, is the art of illusion. And nowhere is that talent for prestidigitation so valued as during a presidential race, where a state senator four years removed is seen as not just presidential timber but almost godlike by his acolytes, and where an unknown governor of a far-removed state who has barely interacted with the standard-bearer is considered fit to be the proverbial heartbeat away.

Watching the Republicans in St. Paul engage in marvelous and hypocritical contortions about their anointed messiah — Sarah Palin will save us! — is almost as comically painful as observing the Democrats laboring to be sensitive about the Alaska governor and her teenage daughter’s being in a family way — shh, let’s not offend any women or make too many people think about that pesky experience issue.

Watching this surreal scenario unfold, it is almost as if Gustav had whirled as far north as Minnesota and threw both partisan houses into the Land of Oz. L. Frank Baum couldn’t have imagined how many scarecrows, tin men and cowardly lions would be flapping their lips on Sarah Palin, with the Democrats too scared to tell the truth and Republicans taking advantage to create a virtual reality before anyone notices.

The truth is quite simple: No matter how many Republicans you hear talking about how excited they are about Palin, this is like the man who goes on a blind date, meets the woman, can’t figure out why he was matched with her and then, like a gentleman, feigns interest, even enthusiasm, until the date is over.

In this case, that date is Nov. 4, and for only a couple of months, political folks can fake anything. They know as little about Palin — beyond the contours of her resume — as did John McCain when he plucked her from obscurity after only one meeting and now is doing ex post facto vetting as details of her public and private lives trickle in.

You simply cannot vet a small-town mayor and small-state governor in the amount of time McCain took to choose Palin — that is, a day or so. So now the Republicans are painting their smiles on their faces and reacting defiantly if anyone dares question the governor’s lack of experience or the embarrassing juxtaposition of her daughter’s engaging in premarital sex while her mom has long advocated that abstinence-only education is the best deterrent to such behavior.

Anyone with a teenage daughter — and many without — understands this is a difficult and ordinarily very private matter. But for the party of family values and government regulation of female bodies to suddenly clamber onto a high horse about privacy is a little too much to bear.

Does anyone believe that this crew, if Barack Obama had a pregnant teenage daughter, would react with such forbearance? To watch the virtuous gambling man, Bill Bennett, sanctimoniously chiding Wolf Blitzer on CNN for daring to even raise the subject was indescribable.

But the “best defense is a good offense” tack just might work. It was the same approach taken by Nevada Republican Party Chairwoman Sue Lowden when I asked her about it via satellite on “Face to Face.” Lowden told me she was surprised that I would have even asked about the subject and chided me that I was alone in the Nevada press corps to even broach the subject with her.

So there. Properly chastened, I am.

But not nearly so much as the Democrats who generally have tiptoed around any issue with Palin for fear of being called sexist or of seeing Obama’s thin experience, also a perfectly legitimate issue for discussion, contrasted with the Alaska governor’s.

The manifest truth is that if Joe Lieberman wouldn’t have caused an internecine, made-for-TV conflagration in St. Paul, or Tim Pawlenty weren’t so boring, either one might have been picked. But McCain knew he needed a sexy choice — oh no, is that sexist? — so he tried to energize the base and win over some women, both of which may prove successful.

Which raises another question: Why is it that women and their supporters in politics want them to be treated just like men when they are running for office, but when they are accorded the same tough questioning or scrutiny as male politicians, they too often cry sexism?

Palin will introduce herself to millions of Americans tonight at the national convention.

The Republicans will be as ecstatic as they can be when the cameras are rolling, and the Democrats will be as careful as they can be when asked for reaction.

Excited Republicans and circumspect Democrats. Those illusions, like most in politics, won’t last long.

Jon Ralston hosts the news discussion program “Face to Face With Jon Ralston” on Las Vegas ONE and publishes the daily e-mail newsletter “RalstonFlash.com.” His column for the Las Vegas Sun appears Sunday, Wednesday and Friday. Ralston can be reached at 870-7997 or at ralston@vegas.com.

Discussion: 91 comments so far…

  1. All this talk of inexperience? Obama and Palin.
    Lets be honest for a second. Neither of these two are the most experienced politicians in the vast ocean of what Washington has to offer?
    That being said...Barrack has run the gauntlet of the best that the Democrats could throw at him.
    He fended off Hilary who was expected to steam roll her way through the competition and Obama came out on top with a populist message. Cool, calm, rational thinking is what set him apart.

    Do you think for one second that Ms. Palin could have possibly stood up against the republican competition in the debates? She would have been crushed! Simply sent packing with absolutely zero funding and little support.
    Lets be honest folks!
    It's not about experience as much as it is common sense and knowledge about facts...FACTS!
    Barrack is leagues ahead of Ms. Palin when it comes to leadership and common sense.

    It's all America really cares about at this point in time.

  2. You have really hit the nail on the head with this Jon.

    What politician in their right mind would run for office thinking that their private life will stay private?

    And at the same time, isn't it just a little hard to swallow that suddenly the "Family Values" republicans who have been preaching abstinence only for how many years are now pushing the hush, hush routine. It isn't proper to speak the truth?????????

    This is a load of hogwash and we all know it, and it is unbelievable to me that they think we will forget all the talk about Obama having no experience just a few weeks ago, while they expect us to embrace Palin as a VP?????

    I sure hope the American people aren't that stupid.

  3. Jon Ralston has succumbed to the mirth and venomous left wing bloggers and media as they denigrate Sarah Palin. Why did Jon Ralston join this coordinated effort?

    Jon Ralston picks up on all the private issues, mentions and airs them individually, and then pretends that he really did not want to mention it but he had to do it.

    Jon Ralston complains that McCain should not have pick Palin because it is too late in the election cycle for Jon Ralston to vet Palin.

    Tomorrow maybe Jon Ralston will have to release Palin’s SS number to support the Democratic attack machine.

    Watching the reporting of the Democratic internet attack today on Palin, it is a joke that Jon Ralston thinks that Democrats are tiptoeing in their response.

    I can wait to see what Jon Ralston comes up with in the complicit LV Sun tomorrow.

  4. If the shoe were on the other foot and a female candidate in the democratic party had a teen that got pregnant the GOP would say it was because she was out campaigning and not taking care of her own family. They would ooint to that as the benchmark for women staying home with their children.

    Truth is Palin is back country trash. She laughed as one of her opponents was denegrated on a radio show when she was a guest, she used her position(s) to have people fired and she has no experience beyond running the least populated state in the nation with a huge per capita bankroll.
    I have to laugh everytime one of the mouthpiece republicans calls her a reformer - says that is what Washington needs. Yes, Washington needs cleaned up, the old guard needs to be hauled out of there, but the REPUBLICANS are the exact old guard that needs sent packing. Just who do they thinkshe is going to "reform"?

    The mantra may sound good but mkaes no sense.

    McCain really fumbled this one up. Americans are much smarter than this.

  5. "Truth is Palin is back country trash."

    Good racist comment....

    I just love it when the "progressives" show their true colors.

    Lets add those back country trash (I guess all blue collar workers) into that group of bitter folk that can not deal with problems except by clining to guns and religion.

    Obama and group....keep up the good work!!!!!!

  6. I'll give you this, nance, you are the resident king of the strawman.

    (BTW, that's not necessarily something of which you should be proud.)

  7. Jon Ralston's is supporting the Democratic smear Campaign, and his piece today allows people like "Judy" above a place to vent their venom.

    Where was Jon Ralston over the last year when it was a widely know "secret" about John Edwards.

    Jon Ralston wants "Scrutiny as male politicians" get.

    Right Jon Ralston!!

  8. jfnance - Palin is back country, she is rural Alaska - least populated. What is she going to bring to the ticket? REFORM? Reform of what? All of the REPUBLICAN stuff that has been happening for th past 8 years? Right - like the fox guarding the hen house. She is as bad as them.

  9. Future -
    Venom? What was venom? That Palin laughed about her oppponent having cancer? I heard the tape, she giggled like a little girl. How is that venom? It is the TRUTH.
    YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.

  10. Yes, Palin called her opponent "a cancer" and giggled when the radio hosts called her names.

    Palin's opponent, a woman who Palin knew very well, had only recently survived a brush with cancer.

    John McCain is a cancer survivor, will she laugh at him, too?

  11. All media, when they continue to discuss "should we or should we not discuss this", are discussing the situation by default. So, they can pretend virtue by saying they are just keeping the discussion at that level, that they are not really discussing the personal.....but that's pretty bogus.

    Think there are two bigger issues though. First, McCain. They say that he knew about this at the time he picked her. So, does that mean he knew this stuff would come out and that it would kick Obama off the front page for more than a day? So, is he just "using" her? I guess VP picks get used in one way or another. But, I heard it said the other day that she really would have nothing to do with running the country if he was elected. That it would be his "cronies" like Joe Lieberman who would be. Probably true.....but still sad that he would stoop to using her that way. And what does that really tell us about him? Have to admit to being disappointed in him in that aspect.

    Second, Sarah Palin the mother. I don't care if she was running for dog catcher. If she's ever read a paper or seen a TV news show in the last 10 years, she has to know that we, as a nation, now pick apart every human being we can. She absolutely had to know what she was going to be putting her daughter through. Talk about blind ambition.

  12. Jon

    This is my first experience with your column and I want to thank you for the balanced approach. There is a lot of emotion tied to this topic right now; defensiveness from the Repubs and surprise and frankly dismay from the Dems. Obama is playing it smart and letting the issue run its course. It is not wise to jump in with any criticism as the decision by McCain speaks for itself.

  13. Palin is back-country honest, tough and focused. Her positions' coming out - and her continued political gyn-exam BY the sexist, hypocritical Democrats - will define who she is.

    She has the SAME opportunity Barry O had = to define themselves. Barry is getting gutted while Palin is a fresh face.

    IF a (D) Female candidate had the teen pregnancy problem, THIS mid-con would consider it a private matter. That's just how I am.

    The same "family matter status"(mq) goes for "Boner John" Edwards - the one-term senator with NO executive experience in the VP slot in 2004 - who cheated on his cancer-stricken wife and rumors of a "love child" abound. Compare with Sarah's DAUGHTER, and the liberal sexual hypocrisy, sexism, anti-feminism and more - becomes all too clear.

    Barry Obama has less experience than John Edwards had - too.

    The inexperienced - but pretty-boy-puppy template goes from the VP to the POTUS slot in 4 years = and Sarah Palin has more country-backbone and experience than both of them.

    Try and take Sarah Palin's weaponry away, lol.......

  14. From Judy's lips to the to back rural country voters in the USA.....vote for McCain/Palin.

    Obama does not want your vote.....you bitter folk who cling to guns and religion to deal with your problems.

  15. NVMakz, "her positions coming out?"

    She's going to be nominated TONIGHT, and you have no idea what her political positions are on the most important issues of the day?

    LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!

    When you make this about the issues, about what voters care about, you cannot answer any of my questions either.

    What are the foreign policy positions of Sarah Palin?

  16. NV, so Edwards' cheating "on his cancer-stricken wife" is what bothered you? (ANYONE cheating on a spouse bothers me, to be honest. I don't make distinctions in that area.)

    How'd you feel about Gingrich? Or was that OK because he wasn't running for President? (Well, not REALLY running, anyway.) How about Bob Barr? (Is he still running? Or did he hang it up?)

    BTW, (stop the presses) I actually agree with you about the personal matter thing(s). But that's just who I am.

    Kind of curious, though; who said anything about taking away "Sarah Palin's weaponry"?

  17. You got that right, Makz, Palin has tons of experience running her beloved little town of Wasilla into $22 million of debt.

    Tons of experience raising taxes on working families and the oil companies.

    Tons of experience going to bat for a pet project which has NEVER been profitable.

    Tons of experience running 527 groups for indicted Senator Ted Stevens.

    Tons of experience traveling to Washington to lobby for $22 million in earmarks for a town of 7 thousand.

    Tons of experience submitting earmark requests to Washington for another $200 million in earmarks for Alaska.

    If that's the "executive experience" the Republicans are running on... thanks but NO THANKS!

  18. Oh, MY BAD, it wasn't $22 million in earmarks for Wasilla.

    It was $26.7 million.

    Those rascally fiscal conservatives, running government into the ground.

    I see she's from the George Bush school of economics.

  19. She didn't graduate with a degree in economics, thebs.

    She graduated with a Bachelors in the Arts of Journalism from the University of Idaho.

    It does not seem like economic policy, foreign policy, national security or the environment are any of her strengths.

    She seems to be really strong at ruining small towns!!! That's her record!

  20. "NVMakz, "her positions coming out?"

    She's going to be nominated TONIGHT, and you have no idea what her political positions are on the most important issues of the day?

    LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!

    When you make this about the issues, about what voters care about, you cannot answer any of my questions either.

    What are the foreign policy positions of Sarah Palin?"
    xxxxxxx
    So, you move your useless waste of bandwidth here?

    I was never specifically asked your "question". While you and "the bs" were munching on raw nits yesterday with "nance", I was light-sabering my way to a very fine day.

    "the bs" used my name in vain yesterday and connected me. I kept quiet while you wasted your energies "over there".

    I don't know exactly what her policies are. Really? Finally, you score a point! WWHHHOOOOHHOOOOOooooo.

    Rock on, you stud!

    I'm learning as we all are. Sarah will define herself, like the socialist political puppy, Barry O. We'll see how much "America" the electorate sees beetween the two, lol...

    We'll see soon how fast the Barry and Joey ticket start running away. A very entertaining election cycle, for sure...

    Given I TRUST John McCain and think Obama is sticky-slick and that's all = we'll all see soon how she gets going.

    So, since I was not specifically asked that question in the first place - your main woof is debunked - your question answered and your nit-picked.

    Being your first "nit" on my account, how yummy IS IT???

    xxxxx

    "Pat"?

    Thanks you for illustrating the loonie-libbie-left which contributes next to nothing and flailing blindly in the dark. RICH!

  21. Yeah, NV; didn't actually think you'd have an answer. Thanks for not disappointing :)

  22. Obama has a degree in South Chicago Corrupt Politics. He earned it with help from his core fund raiser for years who is the biggest crook in South Chicago. He got his diploma when the crook helped him buy a house.

    Obama has strong experience....in......in......in....

    Not sure what it is?

    Is it foreign policy? Nope...only been a part-time senator for 3 years and a state senator for 7.

    Is it economic policy? Nope...only been a part-time senator for 3 years and a state senator for 7.

    Is it executive decision making experience? Nope...Palin has he beat there.

    He has strong experience as a college professor, slum lord lawyer and community organizer.

    Woooooooweeeeeeee.....Mr. Experience.

  23. Sarah Palin's executive experience is AWFUL!

    Even her own supporers don't know what her policies are, and they're going to give her the second most powerful seat in the White House!

    NVMakz doesn't know.

    Jfnance32 doesn't know.

    They just vote for the R.

    That's the same idea that gave us George W. Bush!!!!!

    Just vote for the R? NO WAY JOSE!!!!!!

  24. Obama's senate experience is AWFUL.

    Obama does not have any major accomplishments in the US Senate.

    Even his own supporters don't know what his senate accomplishments are, and they're going to give his the most powerful seat in the White House!

  25. Whatever the legal, or shady, circumstances of Obama's home purchase = ims = the Obama's bought the home for 300,000 UNDER fair value.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local...

    This, in a GORGEOUS neighbor"hood" in the Chicago area.

    Dammm, real estate prices must REALLY be crashing in Chicago for them to score a deal like this, eh?

    Which area of Chicago is Jeremiah Wright having his million+ dollar home built FOR him, Hmmm..

    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/27/...

    Connections, huh? Well, this is America after all...

  26. Of the 15 bills Senator Obama sponsored or co-sponsored in 2005-7 that became law:

    Two addressed foreign policy:
    Promote relief, security and democracy in the Congo (2125)
    Develop democratic institutions in areas under Palestinian control (2370).

    Three addressed public health:
    Improve mine safety (2803)
    Increased breast cancer funding (597)
    Reduce preterm delivery and complications, reduce infant mortality (707).

    Two addressed openness and accountability in government:
    Strengthening the Freedom of Information Act (2488)
    Full disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds (2590)

    Two addressed national security
    Extend Terrorist Risk Insurance (467)
    Amend the Patriot Act (2167)

    One addressed the needs of the Armed Forces
    Wave passport fees to visit graves, attend memorials/funerals of veterans abroad (1184).

  27. Of the 570 bills Senator Obama introduced into the Senate during the 109th and 110th Congress (Senate Bill numbers are in parentheses), they can be summarized as follows:

    25 addressed Energy Efficiency and Climate Change
    Suspend royalty relief for oil and gas (115)
    Reduce dependence on oil; use of alternative energy sources (133)
    Increase fuel economy standards for cars (767, 768)
    Auto industry incentives for fuel efficient vehicles (1151)
    Reduce green house gas emissions (1324)
    Establish at NSF a climate change education program (1389)
    Increase renewable content of gasoline (2202)
    Energy emergency relief for small businesses and farms (269)
    Strategic gasoline and fuel reserves (1794)
    Alternative diesel standards (3554)
    Coal to liquid fuel promotion (3623)
    Renewable diesel standards (1920)
    Reducing global warming pollution from vehicles (2555)
    Fuel security and consumer choice (1994, 2025)
    Alternative energy refueling system (2614)
    Climate change education (1389)
    Low income energy assistance (2405)
    Oil savings targets (339)
    Fuel economy reform (3694)
    Plug-in electric drive vehicles (1617)
    Nuclear release notice (2348)
    Passenger rail investment (294)
    Energy relief for low income families (2405)

    21 addressed Health Care
    Drug re-importation (334)
    Health information technology (1262, 1418)
    Discount drug prices (2347)
    Health care associated infections (2278)
    Hospital quality report cards (692, 1824)
    Medical error disclosure and compensation (1784)
    Emergency medical care and response (1873)
    Stem cell research (5)
    Medical Malpractice insurance (1525)
    Health centers renewal (901, 3771)
    Children’s health insurance (401)
    Home health care (2061)
    Medicare independent living (2103)
    Microbicides for HIV/AIDS (823)
    Ovarian cancer biomarker research (2569)
    Gynological cancers (1172)
    Access to personalized medicine through use of human genome (976)
    Paralysis research and care (1183)

    20 addressed Public Health:
    Violence against women (1197)
    Biodefense and pandemic preparedness and response (1821, 1880)
    Viral influenza control (969)
    End homelessness (1518)
    Reduce STDs/unintended pregnancy (1790)
    Smoking prevention and tobacco control (625)
    Minority health improvement and disparity elimination (4024)
    Nutrition and physical education in schools (2066)
    Health impact assessments (1067, 2506)
    Healthy communities (1068)
    Combat methamphetamines (2071)
    Paid sick leave (910)
    Prohibit mercury sales (833, 1818)
    Prohibit sale of lead products (1306, 2132)
    Lead exposure in children (1811, 2132)

  28. 14 address Consumer Protection/Labor
    Stop unfair labor practices (842)
    Fair minimum wage (2, 1062, 2725, 3829)
    Internet freedom (2917)
    Credit card safety (2411)
    Media ownership (2332)
    Protecting taxpayer privacy (2484)
    Working family child assistance (218)
    Habeus Corpus Restoration (185)
    Bankruptcy protection for employees and retirees (2092)
    FAA fair labor management dispute resolution (2201)
    Working families flexibility (2419).

    13 addressed the Needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces:
    Improve Benefits (117)
    Suicide prevention (479)
    Needs of homeless veterans (1180)
    Homes for veterans (1084)
    GI Bill enhancement (43)
    Military job protection
    Dignity in care for wounded vets (713)
    Housing assistance for low income veterans (1084)
    Military children in public schools (2151)
    Military eye injury research and care (1999)
    Research physical/mental health needs from Iraq War (1271)
    Proper administration of discharge for personality disorder (1817, 1885)
    Security of personal data of veterans (3592)

    10 addressed Foreign Policy:
    Iraq war de-escalation (313)
    US policy for Iraq (433),
    Divestiture from Iran (1430)
    Sudan divestment authorization (831)
    Millennium Development Goals (2433)
    Multilateral debt relief (1320)
    Development bank reform (1129)
    Nuclear nonproliferation (3131,977,2224).

    12 addressed Congressional Ethics and Accountability
    Lobbying and ethics reform (230)
    Stop fraud (2280)
    Legislative transparency and accountability (525)
    Open government (2180, 2488)
    Restoring fiscal discipline (10)
    Transparency and integrity in earmarks (2261)
    Accountability of conference committee deliberations and reports (2179)
    Federal funding accountability and transparency (2590)
    Accountability and oversight for private security functions under Federal
    contract (674)
    Accountability for contractors and personnel under federal contracts
    (2147) Resctrictions awarding government contracts (2519)

  29. 570 bills in two sessions of the Senate?

    Nance is toast.

  30. I said MAJOR Accomplishments.......did he introduce any major bills that got passed.

    You know....like McCain Feingold Finance Reform......

    It sure takes a lot of effort to file a bill.....LOL

    Name a MAJOR bill that he authored and got passed.

  31. Lugar-Obama Nuclear Nonproliferation.

    Working across the aisle, to rebut you LIE that he never has.

    Signed into law by Bush.

    Choke!

  32. Geez jfnance32, you picked the wrong day to come on here and spread your lies!

    He's worked across the aisle many times. You have even reminded us of his vote on FISA, a vote against his own party.

    I think you may be too upset to remember some of this stuff.

  33. There is no comparison of the Obama-Biden ticket to the McCain-Palin ticket. She is a Hail Mary that McCain threw because he was pissed off at Rove and those in power. He water his friend Joe - and they did not want him. I'm sure they were pushing for Romeny. When McCain became the republican nominee I just know all hell broke lose among party insiders. They could not believe it.
    Obama is a very fine and moral man. The GOP is doing their best to try to gut him but it won't happen. He has nothing to hide.
    The GOP doesn't seem to want to discuss the fact that McCain is a womanizer, he cheated over and over again on his first wife. He has no economics knowledge. He can't remember a full sentence at one time in any of his speeches.He is too old and ill to be running for president and the republican faithful are not happy with what they have.
    Palin is a an ethics nightmare, she giggles about her opponents' dealing with cancer. That tells me all I need to hear about her. Laughing about someone having cancer. She is disgusting. Her 16 year old daughter became pregnant right under her nose in a town or village of 6,000? I thought her husband quit his job to take care of the children?
    What parent would want thier child to marry just because of preganancy?
    Take a look at the list of Obama's accomplishments as a US Senator. This is a very intelligent man who scares the heck out of those out there that are closet racists. You all know who you are. You wear the big R after your name and you can't stand that a black man could possibly lead this nation back out of the abyss that your party took us into the last 8 years.

  34. When did work across the aisle on a major issue against his party wishes?

    I give him credit on the lone vote he has ever made against his party and that is FISA.

    Wooooooooweeeeeee....Obama is a crazy dude!!!!!

  35. Obama is a very fine and moral man.

    He is so fine and moral that he had the biggest crook in South Chicago as a fund raiser for years.

    He is so fine and moral that he had the biggest crook in South Chicago help him buy a house.

    He is so fine and moral that his spiritual mentor says "God Damn America" and says the US government gives AIDS and drugs to blacks.

    He is so fine and moral that some of his closest friends and people that he admires hate Israel.

    He is so fine and moral that he was a lone vote against a bill that would have given legal human rights to babies born from botch abortions.

  36. "Take a look at the list of Obama's accomplishments as a US Senator."

    I think theBS listed the 500+ bills that he filed.

    Just in....Obama just filed 10 more bills!!!!!

    Wooooooooweeeeeeeeeeee

    Has Obama gotten any MAJOR bill passed that he authored?

  37. JFDunce - Nothing you stated about Obama is anything more than words out of your illiterate face. You have no back up material to support anything you said. Why not adddress the ethics issues brought up about McCain and palin?

  38. Your attacks are falling left and right.

    One by one, your talking points are being destroyed with facts.

    Poor Nance, your worldview is cRuMbLiNg!

    "Pam Sutherland, president of the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council, said the Illinois legislation was misleading and a far cry from the Senate’s legislation. Obama was aware of this difference, she added."

    "Sutherland noted that every medical group in the state was opposed to the state legislation, which would have opened the door to “civil suits and criminal charges” for doctors and led directly to an overall ban on abortions."

    “The legislation was written to ban abortion, plain and simple,” she said. “Sen. Obama saw the legislation, when he was there, for what it was.”

    "On the narrower issue of “born alive” infants, Sutherland said, Planned Parenthood of Illinois worked last year with the anti-abortion group, the Illinois Federation of Right to Life, to pass legislation that protects infants that survive abortion procedures."

    Obama joined every medical group in the state in opposing that legislation.

    Apparently, you now disagree with medical professionals.

    LOL, keep flailing!

  39. Apparently, you skipped over my post which answered your question about "major" bills.

    Lugar-Obama Nuclear Nonproliferation.

    Working across the aisle, to rebut your LIE that he never has.

    Signed into law by Bush.

    You asked for accomplishments, I gave you over 500 bills that Obama has authored or co-sponsored in TWO TERMS.

    And now you're just flailing. LOL!

  40. Given the corruption on the Southside, how is it that Obama NEVER saw any corruption, and NEVER routed it out.

  41. Introducing, sponsoring or co-sponsoring bills and speeches are NOT accomplishments at all.

    There is no REAL RESULT from those actions, not accomplishments.

    Obama has not done anything much or accomplished much at all = but smoke and mirror Alinsky-trained / Wright-mentored / Ayers-juiced "bottom up" socialism and BLT racism and domestic terrorism, respectively.

    Obama wrote his first life's autobiography before he accomplished anything at all.

    Obama wrote his second book before running for POTUS.

    Obama STIFFS 50% of the population to court the "old, white man" vote = thus a factor FOR the added excitement FOR Sarah!

    Obama has a "grip and a grin" knowledge base on foreign affairs. A "photo-op" Obama Foreign Policy is not good for America.

    Obama has accomplished a ruse on the American people; accompanied with the Cult-of-Personality / Messiah-complexed Liberal Socialist Democrats (LSDs).

    Let's get an earful from the "Frontier Political Woman", Sarah Palin - tonight.

    Let's see one who knows who she is; versus an empty suit snake-oil-pimp socialist racist BLTed who had to leave his rise and political past OUT of the Dem-Con last week.

    She IS Sarah = watch her ROAR!!

  42. Lugar-Obama Nuclear Nonproliferation was a routine periodic renewal bill that had no opposition.

    Reid assigned the bill to Obama, so Obama could learn how the Senate process worked. Reid was just laying off the work to junior Senators.

    Obama signed his name and turned it in. No leadership involved.

  43. NVmakz, you think sponsoring, co-sponsoring or speaking on bills are not accomplishments?

    I guess you are arguing that John McCain has NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS in the past 26 years!!!!!!!!

    Duh! Your candidate has apparently been sitting around doing nothing for 26 years.

    And as Fred Thompson said last night, spending a few years as a POW does not make someone ready to be President.

    You just make the best arguement against John McCain!!!!!!!

  44. The Lugar-Obama initiative is modeled after the Nunn-Lugar program that focuses on weapons of mass destruction in the former Soviet Union.

    At the Bush adminstrations request, Lugar-Obama initiative expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction.

  45. Oh Makz.

    You just sold your sole argument for McCain.

    His experience.

    You just undermined everything John McCain has accomplished the past 26 years. You characterize McCain's 26 years in the Senate as "introducing, sponsoring or co-sponsoring bills and speeches are NOT accomplishments at all.

    There is no REAL RESULT from those actions, not accomplishments."

    What a stunning admission of defeat.

  46. McCain was Commander of the Navy's largest aviation squadron, VA-174, at Cecil Field in Florida

  47. So McCain has accomplished nothing in the past 26 years and you want to spin his time telling mechanics how to fix 50 planes as some sort of qualification to be President?

    He was commander for 13 months.

    "If more planes were in the air under McCain's command, it didn't translate into a higher level of activity under McCain, according to records at the Naval Historical Center in Washington, D.C."

    "Flight hours, a key measure of operations, declined by 27% from 1975 to 1977. And the squadron trained fewer pilots, dropping from 117 to 98 over the same period, according to annual histories of VA-174. McCain's tenure as commander ran from July 1, 1976, to July 28, 1977."

    So operations actually SUFFERED under McCain at Cecil Field.

    Couple this with Palin running Wasilla into the ground and you've got QUITE A TEAM, Republicans.

  48. I see the commerical now...

    Obama stands before a flag...

    It talks about his grand bi-partisan up hill fight to get his major billed passed.

    Then the words "Lugar-Obama Nuclear Nonproliferation Bill" come across the scence.

    It talks on how he got a bill passed that had no opposition to. He worked day and night to convince the Senators to vote exactly like they voted every other time.

    A shining example of his leadership skills and how he fight nobody to win!!!!!!

    Woooooweweeee....win one for Obama!!!!

    Leadership at work!!!!!!!

  49. Commander 13 months longer then Obama.

    McCain 26 years in Congress - 23 years longer than Obama

    Social worker push to Obama
    Trial Lawyer push to Obama
    South side legistrature (with no corruption found)push to Obama

    aviation squadron pilot push to McCain

  50. "Oh Makz. You just sold your sole argument for McCain. His experience.
    You just undermined everything John McCain has accomplished the past 26 years. You characterize McCain's 26 years in the Senate as "introducing, sponsoring or co-sponsoring bills and speeches are NOT accomplishments at all.There is no REAL RESULT from those actions, not accomplishments."What a stunning admission of defeat."
    xxxxxxx
    A "dense" prose like this is what I read.

    What a stunning display of delusion, desperation and abject derangement.

    I've never seen you de-range so far from reality. Really! I'm enjoying the ride I see you on, though. Ride on, Cowboy!

    I have no taste for your fave munchie - raw, oozing nits. Produces the common closed-head lead-helmeted librain-malady," Libloserblowhardbrokenitis".

    It is a new campaign with a new energy starting tonight. McCain / Palin Bounce to follow....

    Chew on that!

  51. McCain made a supreme decision that hardly anybody had to make.

    He could have choosen to have freedom but instead he chose to stay behind with his follow men and be totured and live in a tiny cell alone for many years.

  52. Sorry you sold no one on Obama's experience.

    Get back to the issues like Obama's redistribution economics

    It is a mistake to call Obama’s acceptance speech last week just “rhetorical heights”. Obama fully intends to execute redistribution economics.

    To meet this end Obama will need to continue to accentuate his fear-mongering of the American economy and private business, where millions of newly “out of work” destitute families are in breadlines in all the major cities, particularly the Southside of Chicago.

    It is well known that although 44% of Americans do not pay any Federal Income Taxes, that still leaves 54% of Americans, who make less than the “Filthy Rich” (individuals making more than $200k) paying Federal Income Taxes (FIT on your W-2).

    The Democratic idea that we make the poorest 98% of Americans actually pay for the national defense, common good, and generally welfare of themselves is appalling and just plain wrong to them.

  53. Jfnance32, I admire that he was brave in the face of being a POW. I believe Fred Thompson when he said that being a POW is not a qualification to be President. He is from your party, so I assume you feel the same way.

    Future2012 according to your fellow McCain supporters, you really shouldn't count his time in the Senate, as the Senate does not accomplish anything.

    I think it is funny, Future2012, that you are very concerned with "redistribution economics." Maybe you are not aware that McCain chose Sarah Palin, who worked to take federal money, supplied by taxpayers like you and I, and put it directly into the pockets of citizens of Alaksa.

    If that isn't redistribution economics, I don't know what is!!!!!!!

    So I will put the question out there, besides his time as a POW and the apparently tiny amount of time he led some airplane mechanics, if being a Senator for 26 years isn't an accomplishment, what are McCain's accomplishments?

    You are all very concerned with Obama's accomplishments, and thebs posted a great list of all of the bills and amendments that Obama wrote or supported. What are McCain's accomplishments?

  54. Redistribution economics is where we get to the point where 98% of the working population does not contribute to the the following areas:
    -establish Justice,
    -insure Domestic Tranquility,
    -provide for the Common Defense,
    -and secure the Blessings of Liberty

    It is where the top 2% will pay all the cost to operate the government.

    It where we nationalize all big business and eliminate all salaries over $200k, and profits.

    It then can eliminate the stock market and other capitalist insitutions.

    We will all work for the government for room and board, and free cable.

  55. I don't care about Obama's lack of experience or accomplishments, since I do not need to justify voting for Obama.

  56. Being POW does not qualified someone for president.

    But it does say a whole lot about the person..McCain.

    McCain declining to be release and suffering several more years of toture demostrates a degree of character that is beyond my understanding.

  57. Jfnance32, how can you criticize Obama when you don't even know the foreign policy positions of the candidate you support?

    What is Sarah Palin's position on Iran?
    What is Sarah Palin's position on North Korea?
    What is Sarah Palin's position on the Russia/Georgia conflict?
    What is Sarah Palin's position on Israel?
    What is Sarah Palin's position on Syria?
    What is Sarah Palin's position on Iraq?

    I'll take Obama's foreign policy knowledge and the respect for him by world leaders over the gigantic question mark of Sarah Palin any day!!!!!

  58. Obama is our Messiah!

    He is the Savior of the World!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Perhaps, he should ran for the mayor of Berlin.

    Is that below or above his pay grade?

  59. Wow, that's some support you have for your candidate, Nance.

    Answer his questions, what are Palin's positions on the most pressing issues of the day.

    Does she think Iran is the biggest threat to the United States? Or al Qaeda? Or fundamentalist islamic extremism? What's her views on that?

    Prove you're just not blindly supporting anyone registered in your party.

  60. I will vote for Obama because of his leadership to get an unopposed bill passed.

    Excellent leadership demostration!

  61. KSAn - Are you seriously saying McCain has no accomplishments? Why don't you ask Obama to name some since I do remember him saying something about them. Here's an excerpt from one of his speeches that I'm sure you're fully aware of: "I honor, we honor the service of John McCain, and I respect his many accomplishments, even if he chooses to deny mine." Are you calling your “God” a liar? Don't play stupid KSAN. Just McCain's service alone for this country outweighs anything Obama has accomplished or stood for. Just like Fred Thompson said,” Character you can believe in." I'll take that over "change you can believe in" any day. A mans character goes along way with me KSAN and what better way to build character than to serve your country and put your country above all. He was beaten and tortured for 5 years and didn’t break! He wont break in DC either. I'd trust a guy like that over a guy who spent 20 years in Rev. Wright's church. Does Obama put his country first kSAN? Hard to believe when he hangs out with Ayers. Do liberals put their country first? Hard to believe so when they chant "Obama, Obama, Obama" at the DNC. Have you noticed what conservatives chant at the RNC? USA, USA, USA! That’s because conservatives put country first. Liberals put their ideologies and their cult leaders first. That’s also the difference between you and me.

  62. firedawg2000, did you read what NVMakz thought about our Senators?

    He said that introducing bills, making amendments, passing bills are not accomplishments.

    He is a republican. He hates Obama.

    Do you disagree? Are things like introducing bills, making amendments and passing bills "accomplishments?"

    That is the problem with criticizing Barack Obama work in the Senate, it can be cross-applied to John McCain. I am using a republican's argument to make the point that, if you take NVMakz at his word, John McCain has no accomplishments for the past 26 years.

    It is a ridiculous argument to make.

    There is a giant list of over 500 bills that Obama has authored or introduced to the Senate in two terms. Are those accomplishments? Of course!

    I guess you disagree with Fred Thompson who said being a POW doesn't qualify you for the Presidency. I can remember when Wes Clark said that... all the republicans went crazy. Now they realize the truth! Now it was said at their convention!!!

    I wish I shared your optimism, though. You say Washington won't break him, but it already has. He has changed his positions on so many issues, it's like he's a completely different person.

    He said he was against waterboarding, that it was torture AND THEN VOTED FOR IT!!!!!!

    That is the sign of a broken man.

    I cannot believe you think he is honorable, that he would allow the United States to subject more men to such brutal and harsh treatment.

    That is not putting the country first. Keeping us in Iraq, spending billions of dollars overseas instead of spending them here is not putting the country first.

    I think you need to look in the mirror when you criticize others for being idealogues.

  63. Comment removed by staff.

  64. "Keeping us in Iraq, spending billions of dollars overseas instead of spending them here is not putting the country first."

    It is actually the fault and blood-on-the-hands of the liberal-led Congress of Pelosi and Reid = leaving these fine military men and women IN THE FIELD FOR RANK POLITICAL PURPOSES. They can PULL THE FUNDING anytime they wanted = forcing Bush to make the call.

    The Pelosis and Reids are SCARED TO DEATH of Bush, so the LIBERALS do not effort pulling the funding.

    In 2006, ending the war - lowering fuel prices and the ongoing assault of lies (like yours here) were the reasons they were elected. ONE of THREE accomplished is BAD. Liberals are cowards through and through.

    Good thing the war is being won, if not effectively already won.

  65. No NVMakz, I take you at your word.

    You said that introducing bills, making amendments, passing bills are not accomplishments.

    Now, you say they are.

    Why have you changed your mind? Because you forgot that McCain was a senator, too! Now suddenly you want to give John McCain all this credit? LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!

    It is sad that you call me a "sorry one," but I showed that you are supporting a woman that, by your own words, you don't know where she stands! That is really sorry.

    Abject hollowness? You called your own candidate for Vice President a "blank slate." Your opinion of your own candidate is horrible!

    You say McCain has accomplishments because the bills he wrote or cosponsored became law. It is hypocritical not to give the same credit to Barack Obama, who has helped pass 15 bills between two sessions of the Senate.

    You can call me a liar all you want, but your words andthe intent behind them is unmistakable. You tried to slam Obama's congressional experience and inadvertantly bombed your own candidate.

    That is not lying about your stance, that's explaining it and showing you how you just hurt your own. I quoted your words, how is that a lie? LOL!!!!

    You can call me a "loser" all you like. When you have no logical points, attack a person. That's the definition of cowardice!!!

  66. "You said that introducing bills, making amendments, (passing bills) are not accomplishments."

    And, you're still wrong about it. Until they become law, they are nothing. "passing bills" in one hand and puke in the other, and see which fills up first. changehoping and hopingchanges and hopchangehope = this is all Barry O IS!.
    xxxxx
    "Now, you say they are."
    When they become law, they are. Obama's record of production is non-existant to lead your banner. Squeezing a log out of liberal gruel because they can not name major accomplishments - times when he defied his masters (the Hagel bill was like no challenge, with only 2-3 or so votes against).
    xxxxx
    "You called your own candidate for Vice President a "blank slate." Your opinion of your own candidate is horrible!"
    As Obama still is a blank slate - able to define fresh their stances. Sarah has more "America" in her - as she'll beat out of liberals soon, lol - than the puppy does. I beaten on your lead-helmet all day. The ringing in your ears is defeat.
    xxx
    "You can call me a liar all you want, but your words andthe intent behind them is unmistakable. You tried to slam Obama's congressional experience and inadvertantly bombed your own candidate."
    None of this "bombed" anything. None of this MEANS anything! THAT's your ate-up micro-nitpick VS my "soaring above", bombs away! There was no basis for the lies intending Obama to McCain. We ALL know Obama is the weakest candidate - but to think this "MEANS" anything is just how self-absorbed the attack-puppy Obama lover IS.
    xxxxx

    CLONG, CLONG, BONG....

    That's the truth trying to break in under the lead-helmet liberals around here.

    Still, you lied about ME, about the target and ignored the truth - and long-ago debunked in total deflation of lies. A very fine day, a bit of doubt = but with the weak gruel these days from the other side - the result really is in no doubt.

    Sarah is almost entering the arena. Time to see the new day!

    You both are long abused and withered.

    Assume your liberal positions = in "last place".

  67. KSAN - I completely disagree with you. Changing your positions shows exactly the opposite. It shows that a politician is practical, reasonable, and willing to swallow his pride for the good of the American people. It means he/she takes in consideration new information, evidence, etc to warrant a change of position. That's why I credited Obama for changing his position on drilling when most called him a "flip-flop." (even though he did it for votes)It was the right thing to do and the American people demanded it. To make decisions strictly along party lines is giving into Washington. McCain has shown over & over, time after time that he will cross party lines to stand for what's right in his heart. Not for votes or to appease others.

    Water boarding is not torture. I would water board a terrorist in a heart beat. I'd water board you if you could lead me to Bin Laden or tell me when the next big city bomb plot is. I'd do it with a huge smile on my face, no problem or regrets.

    "He said that introducing bills, making amendments, passing bills are not accomplishments."

    Of course they're accomplishments, but some are worth noting and some are not. Nothing that Obama has done has made me excited enough to want to do back flips.

  68. NvMakz, that is a distinction without a difference.

    We elect Senators to preside in the Senate and do the people's work.

    The people's work is writing bills, co-authoring and sponsoring bills, debating those bills and getting those bills passed.

    That is the job of a Senator. There are hundreds of people who are involved with each bill. There are researchers and lawyers, lobbyists and experts. There are only 100 voices in the Senate to represnet the people.

    Barack Obama has done his job. He has represented his district. He has introduced HUNDREDS of bills. He had 15 passed into law. John McCain has done his job. He has represented his district.

    That is the funniest thing about this whole thing. You think the arguing and debating is meaningless, but you love to do it!!!! You obviously think it's important.

    I think it is clear now you didn't belive what you said about the birth and growth of legislation.

    You were just trying to score "points" as you say.

    Now you are mad that you weren't clear about what you meant? LOL.

    This is very easy, they have the same job. If you criticize the job, you criticize them both.

    Sorry you can't seem to understand that!!!

    Tell me about Sarah Palin's foreign policy positions, again. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  69. Practical, reasonable? LOL!

    Try opportinistic!

    Crossing party lines to stand for what is right? McCain has voted with George Bush 95% of the time. In what world do you live????

    It is "practical and reasonable" that a man who was tortured for 5 years, who said:

    "All I can say is that it was used in the Spanish Inquisition, it was used in Pol Pot's genocide in Cambodia, and there are reports that it is being used against Buddhist monks today," Mr. McCain, who spent more than five years in a North Vietnamese prison camp, said in a telephone interview."

    "Of presidential candidates like Mr. Giuliani, who say that they are unsure whether waterboarding is torture, Mr. McCain said: "They should know what it is. It is not a complicated procedure. It is torture."

    Then, HE VOTED AGAINST BANNING IT!!!!

    That is not something to respect. That is someone who has lost their soul.

    I cannot and will not respect a man who withstood such indecencies and then helps PERPETRATE THEM against other people.

    That is shameful and unamerican!

    He deserves no respect. How is that for ideological!!

  70. Wow , What a speech

    GAME ON

  71. KSAN - Doesn't bother me personally that he switched positions and voted for water boarding. Like I said, I'm all for it! You want to read Miranda rights to terrorist and give them lawyers and I want answers to the next terrorist plot by any means necessary. Personally, I don't think water boarding comes close the cruelty of beheadings. At least the terrorist being water boarded get to live afterwards.

    You have the audacity to call McCain opportunistic? After the changed positions Obama has had during his campaign. Offshore drilling to be the clearest opportunistic decision he’s made so far. You got to be kidding me KSAN! Like I said, you’re dishonest and hypocritical. Just like when you took Fred Thompson’s quote out of context. To not post the complete quote totally distorts the point he was making. Of course, liberal campaigns are all about distortion and drowning out the message with irrelevant things such as a pregnant 17 year old. Do you have something better than pregnant 17 year olds to get me to vote for Obama? I believe he was born out of wedlock, wasn’t he??? Dishonest and hypocritical. That’s what you become when your liberal ideology becomes your religion.

  72. firedawg2000, you're embarassing yourself.

    You criticize the media coverage of Palin's daughter, which was ANNOUNCED IN A PRESS RELEASE BY THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN (LOLOL!), but then make a snide remark about Obama's birth?

    That's extremely hypocritical.

    Yes, McCain is opportunistic. He has changed positions not because he thinks differently, but to earn the nomination for president. It is the exact opposite of hope, it is evil cynicism.

    It is hilarious that you say I took Fred Thompson out of context, but you absolutely distort Obama's position on offshore drilling. He still doesn't agree with it, but he agrees it can be part of a bipartisan solution. That's nice that you have ONE example of Obama "changing" his position. Maybe you need to take another look at McCain's statements over his two and a half decades in the Senate. He's done a 180, 360, even a 720 on some issues.

    http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/arc...

    You keep yapping about liberal ideology, you can't see you're the same. You are the ying to my yang. Don't flatter yourself, you're a right-wing ideologue.

  73. KSAN - Hey, Obama is a grown man; he can handle my little snide remark even if it's about his birth. On the other hand, you, your cronies, and your liberal media pounce on a 17 year old, A child. There are no limits to liberal attacks, not even for children.To sling mud at her pregnancy out of wedlock is to sling mud at Obama's mother as well. Again, your hipocracy. What do liberals care about children anyway? They abort them and liberal judges let child rapists get away with their crimes all day in this country. Why should they care about the privacy of a pregnant 17 year old who has nothing to do with this or any election? Win at all costs, right KSAN? That's your deplorable party, that's your religion, that's who you represent, and that's who you are!

    I'm an ideologue? Who's the one who speaks in Obama sound bites, Obama bumper stickers, Obama talking points, and Obama campaign ads??? Who's the one who has "Obama Parties" at his house and donates to his campaign? The answer is you! Don't try to turn this around on me pal. You're the one who has sold his soul to left wing ideologue and now you're trying to recruit more clones on this website. You eat and breathe that liberal hate. I bet you couldn't have a normal conversation without a regurgitated Obama sound bite come out your mouth. You're going to need "Obama Rehab" after he blows this election. Hopefully, in that rehab, you'll take a good look in the mirror and see what you've become.

  74. I have never said anything about Palin's family, and I dare you to prove it.

    Palin's family is private and I have never said anything about them. Maybe you need to learn how to read.

    You call others hypocrites and then ADMIT your own hypocrisy. Huh? That's pretty loopy.

    I love how you scream about liberal attacks but I haven't heard you condemn all the slander and lies coming from talk radio and Faux news about Obama's family, religion, background, etc. That's convienient moral outrage, if you ask me. Sanctimonious, some may say.

    The rest of that is just futile personal attacks and beneath a response.

    How's Oregon? Has Bush's disasterous economic policies ruined it as well? LOL!

  75. Snide remarks....

    Are you talking about the one where somebody said those voters who do not vote for him are bitter folks that cling to guns and religion to deal with their problems?

  76. LOL, that's a good one, ksand99.

    The McCain camp whines about the press talking about the pregnancy when they released it via Press Release?

    Uh, isn't that the point of a press release?

  77. Election over....

    The Democrats have deemed that Palin is a no-substance small girl that is way out of her league.

    Biden is light years ahead of her in brain power. In fact, brain waves coming from Biden's brain should just knock over the little small town mother.

    The race is over....

    Obama/Biden should be 10 to 20 points ahead next week.

  78. I agree, Nance.

    She had a chance to show us what she was made of.

    She traded substance for show.

    So many people here told me to wait for her speech, that it would illuminate her policy positions.

    Instead, I learned that she has a nice family and she really dislikes Obama.

    Still don't know where she stands.

  79. Then Obama/Biden should easy beat the no-substance little small town mother.

    It should be a cake walk.

    Why are you so worry?

    The race is over right?

  80. theBs is right.

    Next week, the America people will give Obama a 10-20 point lead because of Palin.

  81. Well, if the American people are told that Palin's a "tax-and-spend and then borrow some more and spend" Bush-level economist...

    AND she doesn't seem to have any foreign policy positions

    AND her introduction to the American people was basically sarcastic and mean

    Then I have little to worry about.

    But then, it never hurts to drive the point home, Nance.

  82. I think this Democratic obession with a VP pick is amazing.

    I think the Democrats are talking more about Palin then their own candidate now.

    I do not have a problem with it.

    I think Republicans spent two seconds on Biden. Biden is not important factor in this race. It is funny. Biden's selection was offically release in a 3:00 AM text message. Democrats know how to throw a big party for their VP. Nobody remembers anything that Biden says or cares what Biden is doing.

    I guess the little mother from a small town has that effect on Democrats.

    It has driven them nuts!

  83. KSAN - A 17 you old girl gets scrutinized by your peers and you say nothing? Isn't that just as bad? You can't come here and defend a child? If she was Obama's daughter who was pregnant, you'd jump on everyone who'd breathe 1 word about it. You've become the leader of the liberal movement on the lvsun blogs and you said nothing. I assume you feel the same way. To stand there and say nothing while a 17 year old pregnant child gets trashed makes you just as guilty. I know I'd defend anyone's child even if he/she had opposing views. That's the kind of man I am KSAN. Like most other things, I put children before ideology on my list of priorities.

    Slander and lies that come from Fox news? Lol!! Yea, whatever. Here's a news station that tells the truth and liberals hate. Just like they hate anyone who isn't apart of their cult. Liberals have every other media outlet on their side except Fox news and that's why Fox has the best ratings. Talk radio can say what they want. That's the freedom of speech. Just like Air America of Alan Comes show. That's their opinion; one can turn off if you don't like it.

    "How's Oregon? Has Bush's disastrous economic policies ruined it as well? LOL!"

    Lol, I swear you post some corny jokes on here. I can just see you crackin' yourself up. Oregon is beautiful, but it’s like I died and went to liberal heaven. You'd love it here. No opposition to your extreme political views and lots of trees for you to hug.

  84. Wow. I always knew Jon could write; but the sheer abundance of comments here finally confirms we've got a real horse race goin'on. Democracy at its best... ??

  85. First, I would like to say, this woman just had a baby 4 months ago, a Down syndrome baby! And she's talking about leaving that infant to traipse about the country as VP? Give me a break! What kind of mother would do that?
    Second, I think that this makes the Republicans look very desperate. It proves, first of all, that they didn't think they could beat Obama with the obvious choices for VP. It also proves, second of all, that they won't beat him. By this very move I am confident that OBAMA is the next president of the USA!
    Who in there right mind would vote for McCain after pulling something so risky with our country at stake?! OMG doesn't he know we are facing financial ruin, terrorists on every side, war and rumors of war up the ying yang?! What did he think that just because she is a woman, that women all over the country would be so excited that we would throw away our country for 4 more years of debt, war, and insanity? GIVE ME A BREAK!...
    If this is all the republicans got, they may as well salute our new commander and chief, President Barak Obama!

  86. First, I would like to say, as a woman I was angry by what I saw yesterday Governor Sarah Palin. She did not put the "COUNTRY FIRST" but arrogantly challenged Sen. Barack Obama as if she is in the same league as he is. Let's examine her resume, graduated from Iowa with what degree? Obama was top in his class at Harvard. If they were up for a position at a company, that alone would make her chances slim to none and you want the country to give her the job of Vice President? Why? Because she's a woman? Give me a break!

    Continuing on with her resume, PTA, City Council, Mayor, and Governor in a few short years. Let me pose a question. What exactly are the requirements in Alaska to get on the PTA? City Council? Become the Mayor and Governor over less people than Detroit, MI? What kind of resume did the previous Mayor and Governor that she defeated have? I propose to you that Governor Palin doesn't add up to Joe Biden, much less, Barak Obama and if she thought she could sway the people of this great country by throwing mud at her them it didn't work.

    If McCain had done his homework before making the most important decision he could have made concerning his VP candidacy he would have chosen a more qualified, seasoned running mate, not a "Soul Mate." Isn't his second wife supposed to be his soul mate? Give me a break! Even the Bible says "Know those that labor among you" and "lay hands on no man suddenly." That means don't put someone in a position that you don't have personal knowledge of. Okay?

    Finally, I ask this of McCain. Out of all the qualified, experienced women in government, Condelezza Rice, to mention one, does he really think that Palin is a better candidate than our current secretary of state? What about the countless Senators, Congresswomen and men, etc. who are working for this country everyday to build policy, laws, and steer the president in the right direction? Is he saying that not one of them were as qualified as Palin because she has a few months of "Executive Experience" over a few thousand people? Give me a break! McCain conceded this race the moment he pick his soul mate over a logical running mate, and I welcome President Barak Obama and VP Joe Biden to their new positions over this country!

  87. "Which raises another question: Why is it that women and their supporters in politics want them to be treated just like men when they are running for office, but when they are accorded the same tough questioning or scrutiny as male politicians, they too often cry sexism?"

    For the same reason that as soon as anyone critizes Obama his people cry "Rasist!"

    Anything to get an edge and win, politics as usual. Change I can believe in goes beyond race or gender.

  88. DBURREL - You're obviously a phony. Coming in here and posting your Obama RA RA. You have a total of 2 posts. I'm sure you're just another mouth piece of the liberal movement implementing yourself in the swing state of Nevada. Go back SF, Berkley or where ever you're from.

  89. CBS Poll last night before speech.

    Obama/Biden 42
    McCain/Palin 42

    McCain/Palin have raised over $8 to $10 million over 5 days.

    37 million watch Palin last night.

    No wonder all the liberal bloggers are going nuts and have this extreme obession about Palin.

  90. nancebot9000 has malfunctioned.

    nancebot9000 keeps writing same thing.

    can someone fix the nancebot9000?

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