Sun editorial:
McCain the socialist?
Republican nominee once opposed tax cuts because they’d — gasp — benefit the rich
Friday, Oct. 24, 2008 | 2:07 a.m.
If there was one thing John McCain had going for him entering this year’s presidential election, it was his image as a straight shooter, someone who would tell it like it is.
But, as we’ve seen during this election, that image has been torn asunder by his campaign’s ruthless tactics that nonchalantly twist the truth and prey on people’s worst fears.
McCain is desperate to make up ground on Barack Obama, who holds a sizable lead in most respected polls, so now he is saying Obama is furthering a socialist agenda.
In the Republican playbook, the word “socialist” is code for “communist,” and this is nothing short of character assassination on McCain’s part.
What McCain seized on was this recent statement from Obama to the now famous Joe the Plumber: “I think that when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
As is clear, Obama didn’t say he was promoting a socialist agenda. He was talking about tax policy and, specifically, the differences between his tax cut proposals and McCain’s.
Obama’s tax plan would simply ensure that more people of modest means would see greater tax relief — the hardworking men and women who didn’t get the big tax breaks that wealthy Americans and large corporations received during the Bush presidency. Additionally, families that earn more than $250,000 a year, just 5 percent of the population, would pay higher taxes under Obama’s plan.
Now, McCain might try to make Americans think something sinister is going on here, but give us a break. When President Bush’s tax cuts were passed early in his presidency, we didn’t hear wealthier individuals and big corporations argue against them, saying a socialist redistribution of wealth was occurring.
What is interesting is that McCain actually voted against Bush’s tax cuts in 2001. Courtesy of CNN’s Fact Check, here is what McCain said in 2001: “I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle-class Americans who most need tax relief.”
CNN’s Fact Check noted that McCain then voted in 2003 against Bush’s next round of tax cuts; he told a Wall Street Journal reporter at the time the tax cuts were “too tilted to the wealthy.”
Why, if we didn’t know any better, it would seem that McCain could teach Obama a thing or two about class warfare.
This whole argument about socialism is ridiculous.
Does McCain believe we should get rid of Social Security? Should we get rid of Medicare? Those are government programs for which no one can be turned away, so does that mean those who receive such benefits are card-carrying socialists?
All of us are required to pay taxes for roads and schools and for police and fire protection, even if we might not need one of those services. Is that socialism?
McCain, along with Obama, voted for the $700 billion rescue package to address the financial crisis. Does that make McCain a socialist?
For that matter, the federal government provides huge subsidies to oil and gas companies — big Republican campaign contributors, by the way — that aren’t offered to mom and pop businesses. Is that socialism?
Government assistance, apparently, is socialism if you want to extend it to those who are not already getting a cut of the action.
That McCain, in the closing weeks of the campaign, is trying to raise such a laughable issue shows what little he has to offer to the American people.
The economy is a wreck, the public mood is anxious and looking for leadership, and this is what McCain is offering: An attack on Obama because he wants to “spread the wealth” after eight years of a Bush administration that has handsomely benefited the wealthy.
The American people certainly deserved better this election from McCain, someone who still has the audacity to promote himself as a political maverick.
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Why does any Democrat fear the word socialism? Socialism is the backbone of redistribution from the rich and middle class to the poor. Democrats should stand up for what they believe in, as did Democratic President Franklin Roosevelt.
In this case the socialistic approach is the distribution of "goods" is in the form of Obama writing $1000 federal government welfare checks to selected individuals that he deems needy. So while in the great depression Democratic President Franklin Roosevelt confronted the economic crisis with a series of government socialistic initiatives called the New Deal, the stated intention for both is to simulate the economy from the "bottom up".
Socialism is defined as any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.
It is a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done. Socialism is a political theory that revolves around substantial government management of the economy.
There is a the difference between the classic help "up" programs such as health care credits, or jobs creation programs provide; and the welfare help "out" has as it only purpose to move money from the middleclass taxpayers to the "non" tax payers.
Democrats are choosing the "help out" approach.
The corner stone of Obama's fiscal recovery plan is the tax cut for 95 percent of workers and their families with a tax cut of $500 for workers and $1000 for working couples. Since 44% of American worker do not pay federal income taxes they will receive an annual welfare check.
What Barak Obama is saying is that, if you pay no income tax, what we need to do is recognize that your retirement contributions to the Social Security and Medicare Trust Funds (payroll Tax) should be given back to you.
This has the net effect of reducing your SS and Medicare contribution dollar for dollar up to $1000.
Since the retirement Trust Fund money and the general fund is combined, this has the direct result of reducing the retirement Trust Funds.
1) McCain voted "YES" for the socialist bailout.
2) McCain did NOT refuse his socialist taxpayer funded healthcare.
3) McCain did NOT refuse his socialist taxpayer funded retirement plan.
4) McCain wants to spend $300,000,000,000.00 of taxpayer money on his socialist foreclosure bailout plan instead of letting capitalist banks take the financial hit.
5) McCain would rather have hardworking Americans receive welfare/unemployment payments instead of creating a new American industrial revolution.
Obama is giving $1.95 a day in middle class tax cuts over McCain's plan.
Cheesburger anyone?
Obama is going to raise taxes on capital job creation investments.
I guess if you want to work at McDonald's then vote for Obama.
Yes, Obama's plan to give the middle class tax relief, which you ridicule (LOL!), will send HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars back into the economy.
It's nice to know that the Republicans oppose giving a tax break to the middle class.
Thanks, Jfnance32!
yes, McCain is a socialist, so is Obama.
nance, your cheeseburger comment that you have posted over, and over, and over again is now stale. You really need a new shtick. (btw you spelled cheeseburger wrong)
Also, working in the fast-food industry is honest labor and nothing to be ashamed of. Would you rather these workers be on welfare?
I understand that is what Hussein wants us all to do is to be flipping burgers at McDonalds.
His $1.95 a day more in middle class tax cuts over McCain's plan plus his additional tax increases on job creation capital investments will take us a lot closer to that burger flipping job we all desire.
And McCains plan will make capital gains on the profits of stock/bond sold tax exempt - so how does that help any but those well-off enough to dabble in the stock market? Again the repugnantcans looking out for the wealthy.
"I understand that is what Hussein wants us all to do is to be flipping burgers at McDonalds."
That's an upgrade for you, right? Can't see what you're complaining about.
I bet if you turn off that hate radio for more than a day you might remember your opinions.
Seen the latest images of Makz girlfriend, Ashley Todd?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronpaul2008...
Yup. It's the black eyed B face lady! Man, you guys ALL hang with weird chicks.
Nance, August 18: "It gives $1.64 more a day to the middle class over McCain's plan."
In a day, Nance's projection for the Obama tax cut rose 3%.
Nance, August 19: "Obama plan for middle class folks earning between $35k to $70k will give $1.69 daily tax break over McCain."
Then, Nance's projection for the Obama tax cut rose a whopping 19% from his original estimate!
Nance, August 29: "She wants to give an extra $1.95 a day more in tax breaks than McCain to the middle class so that the middle class can buy cheesburgers....oops wrong again that is Obama"
Finally, it arrived at an increase of 21% from his original projection... just 15 days later.
Nance, September 2: "He wants to give us an extra $1.98 a day (Cheeseburger plan) in tax breaks over McCain while at the same time heavily increase taxes on job creation capitial investments."
At this rate, even with Nance's projections settling back around $1.95, things are looking better and better for Obama with Nance's projections.
Consistency? Never one of Nance's strong suits.